Members of the PaleoDiet group will know pemmican as a mixture of fat and dried meat, with fruit sometimes added, long used by North American indians and frontier people. So important a source of food was pemmican that Pemmican wars were fought to control its distribution. I broke a long standing tradition of staying out of "health food" stores and buying any packaged or processed food yesterday to buy some pemmican to use as an afternoon snack. I bought it without reading the label and now find that what is sold as "pemmican" is not pemmican. Here are the ingredients: malted corn and barley, nonfat milk, honey, wheat germ, raisins, soy flour, walnuts, soy oil, wheat bran, pecans, grape juice. Aside from walnuts and pecans, there is nothing in this list that a PaleoEater like myself (and, I gather, most of you) ever eats. Its macronutrient profile is fat 20%, protein 34% and carbohydrate 20%. But, more than half the CHO is sugars. The taste was repulsive to someone who has eaten Paleo for so long (15 years or so). I also glanced over most of the "balance" or 30-30-40 or "power" bars and found them to be about like this "pemmican". I wasn't surprised to see that hundreds of new "miracle" diet and fat-burning, muscle growing "explosive energy" products had been invented in years since I had last been in a health food store. The people in there don't look any better or seem any more energetic though, in spite of these new innovations. What did strike me, in my more informed perspective about macronutrients gained from this group, is that the products on the shelves of health food stores are as far out on the CHO abuse scale as what you find in any store. This health food store seemed to be a candy store in disguise where you can feel good about carbohydrate abuse. Its back to the Stone Age for me at the produce and meat counter. Arthur De Vany Professor <[log in to unmask]> http://www.socsci.uci.edu/mbs/personnel/devany/devany.html University of California Institute for Mathematical Behavioral Sciences 3151 Social Science Plaza Irvine, CA 92697-5100