Stefan: > Nothing scientific here. It's just what I heard of others and found out to > be true with my own experience. Animal protein lasts several hours more > than vegetable protein to be digested in me. Also being protein-disbalanced > is heavier to bear for me than other disbalances, e.g. with sugar or carbo- > hydrates. > I usually eat no more than 1/2 pound of animal protein in a meal, but when I tried to eat 1 pound, I found it easy to digest. I certainly couldn't eat 1 pound of leguminous grains. And sometimes, I had flatulences because I ate 1 pound of apples that weren't highly atractive. > Don't choose your meal by smelling at the beginning and selecting the three > best foods. Instead smell all foods and eat the best one. Then again smell > all foods and eat that, that is now the best. And so on. > That's the classical recommendations of Burger, but I wonder if there are other possibilities. Sure, that's more or less what an animal would do, but animals don't eat two huge meals/day, they have little monomeals all day long (except lions, snakes,...). Animals don't have problems with food combination, since they do not combine food at all [however, I remember that chimps eat RAF with leaves...]. Suppose that, using your method, two foods A and B (say, cherries and strawberries) are eaqually pleasant. What will you do? Maybe toss a coin. Then, you eat A first, and you find that you need 1 pound of A and 1/2 pound of B. But if you had chosen to begin with B, maybe you would have eaten 1 pound of B and 1/2 pound of A. And sometimes, a food can help the assimilation of another. Thus, it may happen that A is more pleasant than B or C separately, but that B combined with C is actually more useful than A... and C can be more pleasant than A after eating some B (see Kirt's examples). Concerning monomeals, given that instinctos eat 2 meals/day, a RAF-monomeal would weigh 1-2 pounds. I doubt that so much protein can be absorbed by the body, probably some proteins are transformed into glucose. Moreover, if you really need 1-2 pounds of meat, that means your body is really lacking RAF (and thus very disbalanced). > Dunno if tolerance develops with Orkos food. I suspected the avocados of > Orkos to do so but for me I was wrong. But others (Karl?) made other obser- > vations. > I don't remember if it was about tolerance or overeating (or both), but people at Montrame told that even Orkos "ordinary" fruits are too easy to eat. One person had a problem with avocados, and reportedly found a clear stop with wild avos from Orkos. Same thing with mangoes. > Okay, here are my tips for such games: > Last year I ordered grapes from Orkos and juiced them manually (God, a hard > job!) I let the juice become alcoholic and it was the best red wine I have > ever drunken. Also it gave a clear stop. I haven't played such games, but remember that once, I had 1/2 glass of wine with friends, which was really delicious. Soon after, I tested some grapes, and they were great. One week after, as I had had grapes at several meals, wine was much less pleasant. > Again, because people tend to complain if something goes wrong while they > are silent about their positive observations. I think that the most eloquent of silent observations is the huge percentage of dropouts (probably more than 90%). You also mentioned the folks at Montrame who have the optimal conditions (no temptations, high-quality food available...) and nevertheless don't practice correctly, even after a decade. True, living in such a secluded community is not optimal psychologically, but a beautiful theory is useless if practice is impossible (or very difficult). Best wishes, Jean-Louis