Stefan: > > Indeed there are a lot of excuses: > - poor food supply > - degeneration of human beings that can't be made undone immediately > - decades of cooked food you and me ate > - overall environmental pollution > > I don't consider the instincto record to be poor (...) My opinion is that eating raw + 75 % organic + instinctively + no dairy + no wheat lies at 80-90% on the way between Standard Diet and Optimal Instinctive Nutrition, so if the health of a person is not at 80% on the way between his formet state of health and "optimal health", the only conclusion I can draw is that a perfect instinctive nutrition is not sufficient to provide optimal health. I also think that blaming the denaturation of food for "mistakes" and its consequences on health is an easy excuse. Most of the persons who have a healthful way of life, eat frugally, do not use aggressive methods of cooking live long and have a very good health. So, if searching for the most sophisticated improvements, the highest quality exotic fruits (and spending how much) only provide slight improvements, the conclusion would be that, either there is something wrong in the protocols of instincto-nutrition that Burger has set up, or that instinctive nutrition cannot (or at least, not easily) be applied to modern humans living under the unnatural conditions of the XXth century. I am not an Orkos-fanatic. I admit that some denatured foods have misled my instinct, such as "untreated" commercial Deglet Noor dates or "raw" cashews, but once my attraction to those items will fade, I hope I won't need Orkos anymore (or at least, very occasionally). And even for meat: given the tiny quantity I eat, even if my health doesn't get any benefits (i.e., the intoxication is as high as the detox effect+supply of nutrients), for me it doesn't really matter. Compare my former diet (bread+butter+cereals+pasteurized milk at breakfast, meat at lunch, milk+cookies at 4 p.m., meat at dinner) with my present diet (no dairy, 2 egg yolks or 1/2 pound of raw fish once or twice a week, almost no meat), well, I would consider the ill-effects on my health of a very occasional slightly non-instinctive quality meat (or the few non-instinctive but *raw* and *organic* egg yolks) as negligible. I also consider that eating a small quantity of not perfect RAF is better than never eating any, because the deficiencies may become worse than the supposed intox effects of not instinctive-quality RAF. An health is not the only point: pleasure is important too. I know I like salmon, but when I saw the price of wild salmon from Orkos (450 F=80$/kg), I think I'll buy a piece of ordinary salmon (80 F=15$/kg) every 3 months or so... Best wishes, Jean-Louis