At 19:27 26/04/1997 +0200, you wrote: >Pat, >> Look at the breads on grocery shelves now and read the ingredients--99% say >> wheat--not whole wheat. The nutrients are literally taken from the mouths of Karl >we instinctos assume that heated whole cereals >are probably worse than extracted (is this the >right word?) cereals flours. As a matter of fact, Dr Paul Carton a french physician who headed a sanatorium near Paris beween 1905 and 1925, was the first naturopath to question the use of whole wheat and whole wheat bread, on the basis of the results of empirical studies on his patients. He had noticed that many people with or without gastric problem were much worse off with whole wheat flour preparations than with processed wheat (that was decades before the recognition of widespread gluten intolerance by medical authorities )This free minded spirit had the courage of attacking one of the unshakable dogma of all alternative diet movement since the invention of white flour. I heard Burger pay a tribute to his memory on this precise topic. [ his quotations of name are so rare that they should be taken at face value...] Carton is unknown in the States, but I've heard his name is still revered in some "old school" naturopathic societies in South America ( Argentina and Uruguay) and naturally in France. Cheers Denis