About wheat and cereals: JL: We know that wheat is harmful. What do you think about other cereals? Wheat is not the only one that contains gluten. GCB: Wheat is by far the worst of all cereals. Behind come rice and barley. [Then he talks about experiments with and without bread]. JL: But bread is cooked. Are the troubles caused by cooking, or by the grain itself? GCB: Both [he then talks about the stressometer]. JL: Is raw, sprouted wheat a "bad" aliment? GCB: [He thinks that, although bread is far worse than sprouted wheat, the latter shouldn't be consumed; however, he doesn't give precise arguments]. JL: What do you think of kamut? GCB: We don't know. We all kamut producers dry their grains at high temperature [something like 70 degree C; much more than the 40 degree C limit that Orkos has fixed]. JL: But commercial kamut sprouts! GCB: The fact that a grain sprouts doesn't mean it is not denatured. Some parts of the grain may have been heat-denatured, with production of abnormal molecules, and still, the grain remains viable. JL: Maybe we should test the stressometer on rats fed with slightly denatured grains. GCB: [he doesn't answer to the question; instead, he talks about the compared effects of whole bread and ordinary bread on rats]. He adds that even grains that contain mercury are viable. JL: But mercury is very different; small amounts are highly toxic. GCB: The fact that a molecule is slightly denatured doesn't mean it is less harmful than a very denatured one; maybe on the contrary... JL: [I don't really agree but prefer to stop the discussion, which becomes a bit speculative... Anyway, mercury is not a *denatured* molecule, it is a different one...] Best wishes, Jean-Louis P.S. Other posts tomorrow: I have to go to bed now (yawn!). -- Jean-Louis Tu [log in to unmask]