Kirt, Sorry to be late in replying to your, as usual, stimulating and delightfully logical commentary to my arguments on the raw-vegan trip...and the issue of absolutism, or the Law, but have been away from the machine for several days...and the load in this "in" box is overwhelming. How the heck does one quickly deal with over 200 unread messages...while also making a living and doing other things? I just don't know where I've got the time. But I'll try...especially to your postings, since our perspectives are significantly different on a bunch of the raw issues. I promise to make some replies on this rather lengthy message down the pike a bit, because, as you can imagine, I've got some retorts just waiting the chance to hit the montitor. Thanks for your patience...your talented and provocative inputs...and new information. Really appreciate your thoughtful contributions. TTYL, Ric