Diet zealotry is not welcome on the raw-food list. A diet zealot 1)is somebody who exhibits a fundamentalist/ idealistic attitude about his/her diet and tends to see things in black and white. 2)identifies with his/her diet to the extent that most criticism is taken as a personal attack 3)expresses most of his/her opinions with blanket statements rarely backing up claims with facts or evidence or making any separation between what he/she believes to be true and what are established facts. 4)ignores requests for dialogue and backs out of discussions with silence and/or insults when, as often, feeling cornered. 5)will rarely admit to being wrong or mistaken 6)is very distrustful of the world and easily gets paranoid seeing conspiracies where none are 7)tends to have an elitist, holier-than-thou attitude believing in & expressing own superiority.8)is for the most part unable to engage in constructive and respectful dialogue with people who hold different views. Rene Beresford, Stephen Arlin(NFL) and Bob Avery have all exhibited some or most of these traits and behaviors and despite numerous requests to discuss these and related issues refused any dialogue. Therefore, they have all been unsubscribed from raw-food. If they want to return to to the list, as I hope they will, they will have to contact me privately and show a sincere willingness to understand & look at these matters. In the meantime they can follow the activities of the list through the archives, and if they want to post announcements, inquiries or other contributions relevant to the raw food community, they can send them to me or Dave, and we will forward them to the list. Best, Peter Moderator Raw-food [log in to unmask]