> ombodhi thoren st john wrote: > > from my apiarian research, the effect of regular use of royal > > jelly has the researchers label: "euphoria." don't sound like > > depression to me. euphoria with royal jelly, for those who have chosen > > to accept bee products into their nutritional experience. enjoy! > > with honey on my tongue, > > bodhi Larry: > Do you know how much royal jelly the researchers recommend each day, and > also in what form? Please let me know if possible, thanks, i wish i could help you instantly, but i seem to have lent out my best books on the subject. in particular, try anything by royden brown, especially his _bee hive product bible_. scanning the portion of my health library actually here in my santa cruz studio apartment, i found these: _what you should know about honey_ by walter l. gojmerac _bee pollen miracle food_ by dr. felix murat (32nd printing!) _bee pollen and your health_ by carlson wade _propolis the natural antibiotic_ by ray hill _the miracle of propolis_ by mitja vosnjak my cursory inspection of the above titles lead me to no conclusion regarding optimal royal jelly consumption levels. i'll get back to you when i have more definite data than the suggested dosage on the side of a royal jelly package. i started out doing the jelly in little glass ampules with metal-coated plastic lids. renshenfengwangjiang, if my memory serves me well. don't get your hopes up about its rawness. the honey/ginseng/royal jelly blend makes no claims to heat-sensitive production methods. i haven't had the stuff in years, but have vivid memories of sucking the elixir through incredibly tiny straws, provided in the box just for this purpose. somewhere i picked up the idea that fresh royal jelly loses most of its potency within days of harvesting. the way to preserve the power of the queen's food? freeze-drying. if you have the time & money, try all the brands available. see what works for you. feel what you feel. i've eaten the jelly as a white powder which i sprinkle from a gelatin capsule (opening them brings back egg-cracking memories of my youth) into my mouth, a drink, or solid food. also, the pre-mixed honey/royal jelly products have graced my shelf. i like eating both with propolis & pollen. all this in a morning nectar! i don't eat much beeswax... our farmers market honey vendor had planned on setting me up with a hive this fall, but she sold out. i still intend to keep bees someday. when i called the city to find out if any legal complications could ensue from my proposed sweet hobby, i got the biggest runaround of my life. i called *dozens* of different people in the local beauracracy, each one telling me the next person to ring. leaving my address sporadically, i did get explanatory mail. $230 just to *apply* for a beekeeper's license. still might get turned down. the farmers market honey-lady responded to my story with the observation that (1) none of her hive-holding friends had experienced any hassle from the city/cops, (2) neighbors mellow out about their children/pets/themselves getting stung when told about the fruit & vegetable havest magnification that occurs through the pollenating activities of our winged sisters (also emphasizing that they won't sting unless crushed underfoot or otherwise traumatized, even then only once per insect vs. wasps multiple sting (don't wasps eat mosquitoes?)), (3) if you try hard enough, you'll pester the city into charging something for your hive-tending tendencies, so leave the officials alone. sitting among the white boxes up at the ucsc agroecology farm, the incessant buzzing vibrates my being to other levels. bee conscious! dancing like a bee returning from a new-found orchard, bodhi