I hope everyone here realizes that the message of mine quoting Herbert Shelton's views on fasting for pregnant women that was forwarded to the Veg-Raw list by Bob Avery was done without my knowledge or permission. I am very pissed-off at Bob right now for violating confidentiality. I have been staying out of public discussions on the listgroups as much as possible recently because of lack of time, and a wish to avoid generating mail I must respond to or getting dragged into time-consuming flame-wars, so I've been making only the occasional comment about listgroup discussions via private email. But since he has outed me publicly, I will make a statement. First I apologize for characterizing Bob's advice as 2-3 weeks of fasting for pregnant women rather than the 1-2 weeks he actually said. However, had I known my message was going to be posted to the group, I would have double-checked my statements, something I almost always do before stating something publicly. In private mail, like I'm sure we all do, I am somewhat more off-the-cuff, figuring I can correct any advertent mistakes that occur after the fact since they will have less consequence than if posted publicly. But since Bob forwarded my post without my permission, he never gave me the chance, making me appear careless, which incenses me. For the record, I personally do not believe it is wise for a woman to fast during pregnancy--only in the most extenuating circumstances would it be thinkable and even then only at the personal advice of an experienced Hygienic physician with a lengthy fasting background assuming they believe there is no better alternative. My purpose in quoting the Shelton passages was to perhaps get Bob to reconsider what I felt was an extremist view. I did not intend for the Shelton quotation to represent my own views, because I do not believe Shelton was right about everything, but at least in this instance Shelton's views are more moderate than Bob's, and a person whose opinion Bob seems to respect, which was why I forwarded the quote. --Ward Nicholson <[log in to unmask]> Wichita, KS