Sorry I meant to say CCG/CSAG are lobbying at the EU...


On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
We challenge you to join already organized groups and not form your own one man group. Can you join DUGA (they have some solution) Can you join UDP UK/US (They have a plan) Can you join CORDEG (They are putting together a plan ) Can you join GCC (they have a plan) Can you join CCG/CSAG (They are lobbying at the UN for targeted Sanctions), there are so many groups you can join Burama.

Have you written to these groups and ask what they are doing? Have you demanded answers from these groups? Writing in the public space and sharing documents is certainly not a plan... Let's be practical...

One idea that I think will have immediate impact... 

- Engage on vigorous consultation with International Partners (EU, US, AU, ECOWAS) to impose targeted economic sanctions against the Jammeh regime (including but not limited to travel band, asset freeze, withheld funding, the travel ban will target all government officials, families of senior gov't officials) will elaborate if you buy the idea...

Demba






On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Burama Jammeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Demba

Why can you share all the answers? 

I said never said there is one answer. Whatever number they maybe anyone should be able to tell our nation this is what I think will work. It didn't have to be right or wrong. 

Who am I going to join. To join for what? I will join anyone who proposes something whether I agree or not, like or not.  Certainly I will not join those advocating for violence and elections at this point in time.

Again, whether bullet points or essay tell us/me - HOW DO WE REMOVE YAHYA?

In fact I thought you as media should challenge the nation on these fundamental questions and not just go along with the flow.

Regards

Burama 

On Monday, March 10, 2014, Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Burama,

There is NOT single method of getting rid of Yahya Jammeh and his government. It has to be a combination of methods to not only remove his government in power but also restore Gambia into sanity... That is why you will never get an answer to your question.. so literally you are searching for something that is not there... Join the search and a viable option and certainly your bullet plans will not get us there either... Sometimes you act as if there is normalcy in Gambia and that you are dealing with a sane individual. 

Will come back later..

Demba


On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Burama Jammeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Demba

My question still remained unquestioned. How do we remove Yahya. 

As difficult and complicated as you suggest - we should be able to tell one and another how it is done. Point is not a plan but to facilitate understanding of the sequence of the readers.

Am not dismissing anyone - I just said it is the underlying problem we have to cut off otherwise nothing will lead us to the ultimate goal. If Yahya is believed to be the underlying problem - tell us how we take him on. Complaining and blaming him is not going to do it

I am perfectly fine with the removal of Yahya except no body has come out with a viable action plan to do it.

Unless you changed your mind you and me agreed elections are dead end as it is and we've publicly said we are not going to fight.

So what now? Am on your side but I want to hear tangibles - 20 years and counting. 

To me this is a legitimate question to challenge each other not to be dismissive but to finding answers so we can move on.

I have not seen anything wrong asking self hard questions.

Regards

Burama

On Monday, March 10, 2014, Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Burama,

There is no silver bullet to addressing our political, social and economic problems in the Gambia. To dismiss what others are doing and thinking that one's position is the only solution is at best naive. Every single time you post you are sounding more like a Jammeh apologist. Yes there are problems in Gambia... BUT Jammeh is the nucleus of the problem. 

To say that people making noise is not making any difference is simply not true. Everything you hear coming from Jammeh's mouth is as a result of insecurity and frustration from his opposition. Who said making noise does not make any difference in bringing down a dictator? Do you understand or have you witnessed how dictators were and are being swept from power? What Gambian are doing is agitating, educating, enlightening and documenting what is happening in Gambia. This is no small measure and to think it doesn't make any difference is lack of understanding of how struggles for freedom work. 

I think instead of searching for a common platform to come together and find a difficult solution to an ALREADY IDENTIFIED problem, being dismissive is simply counter productive...We are dealing with a life and death situation in Gambia. 

To dismiss the most peaceful and viable democratic option of removing a leader through elections and turn around and suggest a democratic process that may last 100 years to attain or never on this planet is simply an academic and unrealistic exercise. So again I suggest we try to find a common or parallel platform and work for change in Gambia...

No amount of bullet points can get us to where we need to go... so let's recognize the efforts that are being made, add our practical ideas and join the fight.. To be honest it is simply inconsiderate to come out every day and dismiss the efforts Gambians are doing to change the situation in the Gambia... Change has to begin with Jammeh and his likes removal from ruling our nation... we can then begin..A collection of different methods will lead to Jammeh's removal and efforts to rebuild... 

Thanks

Demba


On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 5:23 AM, Burama Jammeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Suntou

The question is as clear - how do we stop persecution of UDP supporters?

I want to here from you and any other - what do we do? At the panel there was no answer. So far you make lots of points but failed to answer.

This failures of us coming with answers, if analyse deeply lies lots if issues with our understanding of the problem we're with.

I stretched the above question to what do you propose as concrete actions to confront Yahya. It will b
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