Howard, thinking back on it, I can't believe I did that, or that my mom allowed me to do it. Of course the rig wasn't a permanent resident in the bug, just on a couple of trips out of town. My mom was an Avon lady and one time, she came home complaining about something smoking in the back seat. I guess one of the hot leads shorted out but somehow didn't catch the car on fire. It must have burned through before that happened. That may have been the end of my HF mobil experience. Jim WA6EKS. ----- Original Message ----- From: Howard Kaufman <[log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Date sent: Fri, 24 May 2013 18:51:10 -0500 Subject: Re: Drake Tr-4 Mobile with a tr4 in a bug!!! Their isn't room for your feet with out a tr4 on the floor. Now that's dedication!!!