On May 19, 2011 10:52 AM, "Modou Mboge" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> HaruinaBuda,
>
> Talking about stinky mouth, yours cannot be matched. Your stinky buda is a
> special and it omits most odious stench known mankind. Ït's you and
> the crazed lunatics who are in awe of your behind trying to shout down and
> scare anyone who even cough the name of the UDP or its leader. UDP being
> the biggest party so what, they still languishing in the wilderness and
> still obsessed with PDOIS coming on board some futile coalition.
>
> Your party had declared sometime ago that they heading for a landslide why
> are they still gazing at some insignificant outfit according your lunatic
> mind.
>
> What a clueless idiotic lair you are HaruinadingBuda, who said Yahya is only
> bad for UDP. Are you inebriated again. Go on having wet dreams about
> PDOIS, idiot.
>
> Who is trying to scare anyone, i do not have the power even to scare a fly.
>
>
>
> Bye for now HaruinadingBuda,
>
> Mboge
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Giuseppe and Olfactor,
>>
>> It is funny reading you two crazies still mouthing off about the opposition
>> parties of Gambia and Yahya.
>>
>> The UDP is the largest party in the opposition commanding the most votes
>> from all Gambia's citizens. Looking at the quality of UDP's following, you
>> will discover that the UDP is graced by the most members of all Gambia's
>> ethnicities than any other opposition party. You two dumbells can do the
>> arithmetic yourselves. As far as diversity goes, this is how the opposition
>> parties stack up:
>>
>> (Diversity means the number each party commands in the constituent
>> ethnicities of Gambia)
>>
>> UDP
>> PDOIS
>> NRP
>> GMC
>>
>> Yahya is bad for all Gambia. The reason why you latch onto the mirage
>> that Yahya is bad only for UDP is because you understand the quality of
>> UDP's gravitas. You ask PDOIS to "coalesce" but you don't want PDOIS to be
>> guided by its supporters into your phantom coalescing. You sit here and run
>> your stink mouths like you're scaring anyone. Folk are just repulsed by the
>> stink of your shit. Go away!! And stay away! Be satisfied with the "people"
>> you lead. We're not interested in your tantrums.
>>
>> Haruna. What clueless idiots??
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Modou Mboge <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Thu, May 19, 2011 4:13 am
>> Subject: Re: [>-<] The deteriorating condition of Gambians in The Gambia
>>
>> Joe,
>>
>> Thanks for saying it as it is. No one is sacrificing anything for me
>> especially politicians. What is going on seems like a calculated strategy of
>> late to scare people from saying anything other than praising the UDP. This
>> must be the greatest joke ever if these self-possessed self-adulating lot
>> think they can bully anyone to do as they wish. If any politician from any
>> political party be it PDOIS, UDP, GMC and the rest think that people owe
>> them anything they must be out of their minds. If any wants to lord it
>> over people they must be ready to hear what they have to say however
>> insignificant that might be.
>>
>> I have already doffed hat ready to roll and crawl with any lunatic thinking
>> they have monopoly on being vulgar, profane or what have you. If any wish
>> to start they are welcome. Only being unsubsribed will stop me if some
>> crazed loony think insulting people is way to go.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Mboge
>>
>> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 6:46 AM, Joe Joe <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh really! I think people around you must have given you the impression
>>> that you are all that and a bag or doritos. Just imagine an idiot like you
>>> with power in Gambia? Through you, I am really beginning to wonder about
>>> Ousainou and his capacity to lead a nation. If the UDP think they can let
>>> loose a jackass on the prowl unchecked, they are greatly mistaken. If you
>>> were mouthing off for Daffeh, you are a non-issue for you do not matter and
>>> no one ever heard of you until a bunch of bigots rallied around you. If
>>> this is how Ousainou manages his platform, then he is not fit to lead
>>> Gambia. He apparently does not have control for he allows kids to speak for
>>> him and expect Gambians to take him seriously. I hope someone does not come
>>> here lying about Ousainou sacrificing or putting his life on the line.
>>> Rather, it is those around him that are the ones being locked up, tortured,
>>> or even murdered. The reason people like Rambo got tired with his ass. It
>>> seems Yaya has more use for him in the streets than give him the Uwaa
>>> treatment. Yaya is very comfortable with Ousainou being around for he is no
>>> threat to Yaya. "We will bring peaceful change in the Gambia" my foot!
>>> Gambians, it is about time we tell these opposition leaders to go to hell.
>>> We should not beg any to do what the people demand. Ignore them and they
>>> will see how insignificant they are alone. Let us stop the pretense and
>>> cease this wishful thinking business. Folks, Yaya is more worried about you
>>> all out here telling his business than the opposition on the ground. Every
>>> elections they sell Gambians a bill of goods with, "the people are
>>> energized", "the people now see that Yaya is bad for them", "we have private
>>> understanding with the community leaders and we have their support", etc.
>>> Then all of a sudden it's elections, only to see a murderer and thief rig
>>> the vote right in front of their eyes, and instead of stopping the fraud on
>>> his tracks, they would kill us with useless analysis. To the PDOIS folk, if
>>> "Sovereignty lies in the people", then how come the people keep telling
>>> Sedia and Halifa to coalesce and they kept acting like their principles
>>> matter the most. Then we have UDP with this nonsense about being the
>>> biggest, when we all know that, that bigness is as tribal, as the Pashtunes
>>> (spelling). No, none will beg you again. Go on with the silliness. You
>>> will look ridiculous with your principles and tribal nonsense. Folks, as
>>> citizens, we should not have to coax any to be entrusted with leadership.
>>> As dire as our state is, the last thing we should entertain is mediocrity.
>>>
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 23:43:32 +0100
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [>-<] The deteriorating condition of Gambians in The Gambia
>>> From: [log in to unmask]
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>
>>> I have no time for silly banters.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Daffeh
>>>
>>> On 18 May 2011 20:50, Joe Joe <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Mboge, people like Daffeh you do not try to reason with, but instead to
>>> meet them on all fours and if need be throw in elbows for them to recognize.
>>> "Sor Daegae Bulkor Torpa, Fangene Jem Sorewul". I do not let street dogs
>>> bug me and after you deal with them, they will recognize you from a mile.
>>> What Daffeh does in the name of the UDP says more about UDP than Daffeh.
>>> From Darbo down, they are all reading Daffeh and their silence to me means
>>> they are in agreement, thus, I loose no sleep not sparing the kitchen sink.
>>> I know you and Lamin are on the same page.
>>>
>>> Joe
>>> ------------------------------
>>> Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 13:02:37 +0200
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [>-<] The deteriorating condition of Gambians in The Gambia
>>> From: [log in to unmask]
>>> To: [log in to unmask]; [log in to unmask]
>>>
>>> LJD,
>>>
>>> Thanks for your response, always appreciated. As you continuously allude
>>> in your write-ups democratic governance is achieved and sustained based on
>>> the struggle of citizens who are dedicated and ready to take the plunge to
>>> uphold their sacred, indivisible non-negotiable human rights entitled
>>> to them simply due to their intrinsic humanity.
>>>
>>> Democracy building means also we are all required to deal with each other
>>> with respect, courtesy and decorum regardless of however difficult to deal
>>> with our convictions and political believes. We don't have to like each or
>>> even try to do so. I do not claim to be one of those who carry myself in
>>> my exchanges with others with decorum or courtesy for i carry my heart on my
>>> sleeve. I only represent myself and my opinions for i am not a member
>>> of any political movement but just a sympathiser when it comes to
>>> Gambian party politics of PDOIS. I am still wondering what powers PDOIS or
>>> Halifa possess to remote control anyone's thoughts or opinion. Don't think
>>> they have any to do so.
>>>
>>> Now you say that no opposition outfit is capable of dislodging *The
>>> Kanalai Thief and Butcher *yet the opposition that claims to be
>>> the largest and want all to stand behind it are allowing their proxies to
>>> use the most unsavoury language on those they want to bring on board. The
>>> new strategy it seems coming from the UDP through its proxies is to
>>> intimidate and shout down any who coughs any kind of dissenting opinion on Darboe
>>> the politician and UDP politics. Do you think this will work.
>>>
>>> I mean who the hell are these bunch who think they hold the monopoly of
>>> being rude and vulgar. Well, they must be mistaken, we can all wear the hat
>>> anyhow we like it when we feel like it.
>>>
>>> When you critique PDOIS recently on the meeting with the UDP, i think it
>>> was genuine and has some merit (though i do not necessarily agree with what
>>> you said) but at least was inspired by your undiminished concern to
>>> ultimately seeing the opposition working together to dislodge the common
>>> menace Jammeh.
>>>
>>> I do not see PDOIS's position as intransigent or inflexible but
>>> being careful of what they are being shouted at to get into given the recent
>>> history of the opposition coming together. Opposition alliances/coalitions
>>> in our region are fraud with the largest parties just wanting the smaller
>>> ones to support them to gain power only to be disappointments. I do not
>>> claim the UDP is likely to do as seen in say Senegal (wish i had powers of
>>> clairvoyance) if ever they become elected within an alliance but things
>>> must go beyond regime change.
>>>
>>> Going haywire vulgar and insulting people and claiming that you are not
>>> controlled by any is foolhardy and all of us can wear the hat of vulgarity
>>> if we need to. And by God no one is sacred in my book if they think they
>>> can insult, put down others just because they think they have the right to
>>> be rude.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Mboge
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Lamin J Darbo <
>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Mboge
>>>
>>> UDP, unquestionably the largest opposition party, cannot do it alone. No
>>> opposition outfit can!
>>>
>>> For me, the critical issue is whether we want a complete governance
>>> package going into elections, or win first and consult widely and sensibly
>>> on building a proper democratic architecture for a new Gambia. In my view,
>>> there is no alternative to an incrementalist approach, i.e., we go into
>>> elections as a united front, with some details on a potential government
>>> agreed, and agree, even if tentatively, on building flesh around the
>>> skeletons of a democratic state after dislodging despotism from our public
>>> life.
>>>
>>> A united front has a logic that transcends the individual strengths of
>>> different parties, and when it comes to it, an inconclusive election may
>>> forcibly swung the way of the opposition.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> LJDarbo
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 17:51:15 +0200
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [>-<] The deteriorating condition of Gambians in The Gambia
>>> From: [log in to unmask]
>>> To: [log in to unmask]; [log in to unmask]
>>>
>>>
>>> I find it extraordinary that there is even talk of coalition or whatever
>>> one calls it. UDP had declared victory (a landslide) long ago and the less
>>> than 5% PDOIS draws is insignificant to them as i understand the rhetoric
>>> it's foot soldiers have been trumpeting. Whatever PDOIS does is not gonna
>>> satisfy some of her interlocutors who if they had their wishes wanna
>>> see PDOIS fade and fizzle into oblivion. NADD failed and no one wants
>>> to take responsibility, rather we are bamboozled with outlandish and some
>>> of the most ridiculous concoctions of reasons that the whole thing was a
>>> subterfuge by PDOIS and Halifa in particular who wanted to gain
>>> power undeservedly. Now however flawed the AGENDA 11 is and indeed
>>> there are some problems with it at least it is an attempt to give those whom
>>> PDOIS desires to represent how things can be done. Now if the only reason
>>> for a UDP led alliance or coalition is that it is the biggest so everyone
>>> just have to be mute and follow them willy-nilly then that equally is a none
>>> starter. The examples of how coalition governments comes about such as
>>> the Conservative-Lib Dem pack that some have been talking about was only
>>> possible following elections and there was no clear winner able to form a
>>> government. There was never any talk of coalition between Cameron and Clegg
>>> prior to the elections of 2010 that i know of and if there were any
>>> negotiations for coming together the dynamics would have been totally
>>> different.
>>>
>>> Let the UDP (the biggest party?) juggernaut as we are made to
>>> believe gather extra momentum and coast to victory and Gambia shall live
>>> happily ever after.
>>>
>>> Mboge
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Pasamba Jow <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > "An "extraordinary solution" would first require Mr Joof to articulate
>>> that PDOIS bears greatest responsibility in so far failed efforts to
>>> assemble a united front."
>>> > Mr. Darboe, with all due respect, i find your above assertion as
>>> completely outrageous and without merit. This notion that PDOIS should just
>>> follow the UDP because it is the largest opposition party is out right
>>> rediculous. We would want the UDP to atleast produce a policy document on
>>> how and why people should join them in a party led coalition. I hope you
>>> will not also blame PDOIS for Hamat's decision to pull out of the UDP/NRP
>>> alliance?
>>> > pasamba Jow
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > "True peace is not merely the absence of tension; it is the presence of
>>> justice." Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ________________________________
>>> > Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 15:02:08 +0100
>>> > From: [log in to unmask]
>>> > Subject: RE: [>-<] The deteriorating condition of Gambians in The Gambia
>>> > To: [log in to unmask]
>>> >
>>> > George
>>> >
>>> > Mr Omar Joof has captured the dominant aspirations of Diaspora-based
>>> opposition supporters, but there is no question where major responsibility
>>> for the impasse in creating a united front lies. An "extraordinary solution"
>>> would first require Mr Joof to articulate that PDOIS bears greatest
>>> responsibility in so far failed efforts to assemble a united front.
>>> >
>>> > Like you, I read the positions of the key players, and on current
>>> evidence, there is no realistic hope for a united front.
>>> >
>>> > Unlike Mr Joof, I see no need to coax over the unachievable
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > LJDarbo.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --- On Tue, 17/5/11, George Sarr <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > From: George Sarr <[log in to unmask]>
>>> > Subject: RE: [>-<] The deteriorating condition of Gambians in The Gambia
>>> > To: [log in to unmask]
>>> > Date: Tuesday, 17 May, 2011, 14:02
>>> >
>>> > Well said Omar. Well said!
>>> >
>>> > Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless
>>> >
>>> > -----Original message-----
>>> >
>>> > From: omar joof <[log in to unmask]>
>>> > To: [log in to unmask]
>>> > Sent: Mon, May 16, 2011 17:11:15 GMT+00:00
>>> > Subject: RE: [>-<] The deteriorating condition of Gambians in The Gambia
>>> >
>>> > Daffeh,
>>> > The perfect solution indeed is to ensure that there is a single
>>> opposition coalition candidate to challenge dictator Yaya Jammeh in The
>>> December presidential poll. The scenario we are faced with in The Gambia is
>>> extraordinary, and thus requires an extraordinary solution.
>>> > I have no doubt that The UDP in terms of national following, is not just
>>> the biggest opposition party in The Gambia, but it is indeed the biggest
>>> political party in the country. A coalition that removes Yaya Jammeh can
>>> only be to the UDP's interest, but that can only be a coalition which
>>> includes not only all the opposition parties, but also PDOIS/NADD in
>>> particular. Only such an all inclusive opposition coalition will have the
>>> muscle to resist the criminality which constitutes the modus operandi of the
>>> A(F)PRC. The moment nomination day ends with a single opposition candidate
>>> up against Yaya Jammeh, you will witness Gambians in their
>>> thousands standing up for such an opposition candidate. There will be
>>> generated such a tremendous momentum for change that Yaya Jammeh even with
>>> all his green berets, will not be able to campaign in some places. This is
>>> not a matter of conjecture, but it is a fact, as we know how Jammeh has been
>>> stealing elections in The Gambia over the years.
>>> > I am certain about another thing: In view of the banditry, brutality and
>>> criminality which characterize the body politics of the A(F)PRC, to
>>> contribute towards the regimes constitutional removal from power is a moral
>>> duty. Similarly, to procrastinate the evolution of the framework which to
>>> the majority of our citizenry and well wishers constitutes the perfect
>>> solution, should constitute a moral transgression. Though no person should
>>> hold moral judgement over another, this regime has been so murderous, that
>>> it can only be deemed to have committed the worst against us. This also
>>> helps to highlight the mess we are in, and make all the more obvious the
>>> urgency of the need for national sacrifice and compromise.
>>> > Finally, I intend not to abide by your advice if we do not have a single
>>> opposition coalition candidate to challenge dictator Jammeh in the
>>> forthcoming presidential poll in The Gambia. However, whatever resources I
>>> have to contribute shall be equally divided between all the opposition
>>> parties. For me, they are all comrades-in-arms against murderers and friends
>>> of rapists!
>>> > In conclusion, I hereby remind all our opposition leaders of
>>> the teaching of a man at the beginning of his eternal journey to his
>>> children. The man called all his children. When they were all gathered, he
>>> asked fo a traditional African broom to be brought in. When his request was
>>> complied with, he untied the broom and requested one of the children to
>>> sweep the floor with just one of the sticks from the collection that make up
>>> the broom. The act was impossible to perform. But when the sticks were put
>>> together again, the act of sweeping the floor became possible. The story
>>> teaches not only the significance of unity, but how paramount it
>>> is, especially when what constitutes the bottom line is messed up; like when
>>> truth and justice are not part of the basis of our national dialogue and
>>> interactions, like what obtains in The Gambia now.
>>> > Best of regards,
>>> > Omar Joof.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ________________________________
>>> > Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 19:31:46 +0100
>>> > Subject: Re: [>-<] The deteriorating condition of Gambians in The Gambia
>>> > From: [log in to unmask]
>>> > To: [log in to unmask]
>>> >
>>> > Ansu, here is the perfect solution to this problem; Vote UDP if you live
>>> in The Gambia or canvass for votes and funds for the UDP if you lived
>>> outside The Gambia..
>>> >
>>> > Regards
>>> > Daffeh
>>> >
>>> > On 14 May 2011 18:49, ansukoroma <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Sixteen years of tyrannical rule has plunged The Gambia further into an
>>> abyss of a rat hole that will take generations to rectify. Thanks to Yaya
>>> Jammeh - a military police corporal passing himself off as Head of State.
>>> >
>>> > Gambia's economy has been the number one victim of Jammeh's misrule
>>> outside of the human rights and liberties of Gambians which has been under
>>> assault since 22 July 1996. The economy has been decimated by sheer
>>> ignorance of a collection of sycophants led by Jammeh, whose sole role seem
>>> to be is to pilfer an economic system that, despite its shortcomings and
>>> inefficiencies under Jawara, has brought economic order through a reasonably
>>> predictable model of free enterprise. The invisible hand has been
>>> transformed into the very visible hand of a single individual who tries to
>>> single-handedly determine the demand and supply curves of the Gambian
>>> economy. Yaya Jammeh allocate public resources by determining the level of
>>> the annual budget and then turns around and use those very resources to
>>> purchase goods and services for government and political agents. The goods
>>> and services bought under Jammeh are more to do with highly depreciable
>>> assets like vehicles, tractors and other leisure vehicles and less to do
>>> with expenditures that will add lasting value to the economy. For example,
>>> less resources are allocated to school supplies, teacher training and
>>> teacher education and consumables and more on vehicles and buildings. The
>>> same applies to the health sector where it is common to see a shining
>>> ill-equipped hospital facility with empty medicine cabinets.
>>> >
>>> > The resultant budget deficit has been a drag on the economy resulting in
>>> higher interest rates adding to the inflationary pressures that ordinary
>>> folks encounter daily. To ameriorate the fiscal pressures on government,
>>> there is a less-publisized measure of salary reduction for public servants
>>> to help pay for the irreponsible spending spree of an indeciplined
>>> giovernment. Reducing civil service pay during an economic down-turn only
>>> adds to an already difficult living condition for Gambians. It is now a
>>> common sight in the Greater Banjul area to see people walking along the
>>> Serrekunda-Banjul highway to work in Banjul bacasue they can no longer
>>> afford the transport fare which can easily total D25 per day, a sector now
>>> domonated by Jammeh transport companies. It has gotten that bad, folks. I
>>> don't know how long we can afford to sit and watch our country destroyed by
>>> a corrupt, inept and vicious government.
>>> >
>>> > A. Koroma
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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