I wonder why the GOP in UDP contacted and continues to contact the STGDP? No, STGDP seeks no credit, in fact it ignored the hell out of the opposition. STGDP a group of losers, yet you continue to run to them. That is insanity by definition. It seems like you bunch are scared of the eminent trouncing in waiting and are trying to get cover by creating a distraction to avoid what awaits you. Fufu please step aside. I am dealing with that poodle in Daffeh. I see you are still stretching the Happy Hour!
Joe
Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 01:25:10 -0400
From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [>-<] Re: Unofficial results of the Bye-elections leaked!!!
To: [log in to unmask]
Giuseppe,
Karamba and Daffeh are equal parts of the UDP.
STGDP conversations are the grandest waste of time I have ever heard of. I wouldn't even give them the fanciful cred they seek. A bunch of losers.
Haruna. UDP will find PDOIS in hell. If Hon. Ousainou goes to hell, he will certainly find Halifa there.
-----Original Message-----
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To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sat, Apr 30, 2011 9:47 pm
Subject: Re: [>-<] Re: Unofficial results of the Bye-elections leaked!!!
I think UDP seem to have a serious internal problem. Here you have this nut in Daffeh to show his stupidity below and at the same time Karamba is talking with STGDP about a collaboration and specifically came to the STGDP on behalf of the UDP, barely a week ago. Is Daffeh well? Karamba is not dead and very alive to refute what I am stating. It appears the left hand does not know what the right hand is doing, unless the UDP is engage in a scheme. Yeah, we are a bunch of this and that, precisely because it has sunk in your coconut head that we are not here to hold the bucket for anyone, including the UDP. You tried your arrogant rudeness during our meetings and when you were met half way, you receded. The gull in you! Come again with your stupid Mansa mentality and speak like you were suffering from hemorrhoids and see if you last a minute in our meetings. Since you are on the offensive, I am here to tell yourself, UDP, and Ousainou to go to hell. No one is interested in coaxing you bunch, the reason why you pop up here to seek relevance. Next time anyone one of you come to the STGDP to discuss anything I will register some choice words for them when I take the floor. Is this the kind of party that Gambians think are going to liberate them? Gambians left you bunch alone to go on with your business as you see fit, only to see that you have no business of your own after all but keep on showing up here with all kinds of nonsense. You said you bunch are all over Gambia and hundreds of Gambians are leaving the APRC daily to your side, what happened to managing that farce? Why does starch-heads like Daffeh come here to start unnecessary shit when they could not even fund a twenty-bus caravan? No, you do not have any strategy to show for. After sixteen years with Yaya UDP cannot articulate a single platform that make sense aside from saying they are the biggest party, which is a double-edged sword in itself, for that same majority you claim is almost homogeneous on tribal basis whether intended or not. What sort of laziness is that? Boy please do not get me started. I had promised myself to let the parties do as they wish and not interfere with their campaign, but not if Daffeh comes here to monkey around when he should not be heard from in the first place, as disgusted as Gambians are in the way opposition politics is aligned in the Gambia. My conscience is clear. If UDP does not mind to release the poodle in Daffeh to be a nuisance I do not have a problem to deal with both Daffeh and the UDP. Who gives a rat ass how anyone of the parties is bending over any more? They keep regurgitating the same shit over and over again, who has been telling this bunch that Gambians are listening to anything they have to say any more? If Gambians think that Sana Sabally was a lunatic when he had power, try this arrogant shrub. Daffeh, you are best served to keep your BS within your group in the UK. You bring that shit out here I will also tell you the predictions my grandfather had for me. You may think your shit don't stink in the UK, but make no mistake to try to spread that over here. Someone has been fooling you that you are all that and a bag of doritos. Keep ya shit to yourself!
Joe
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 23:32:45 +0100
From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [>-<] Re: Unofficial results of the Bye-elections leaked!!!
To: [log in to unmask]
''Again, the recent forum on Freedom where invitations were made to all the leaders, again these two individuals were nowhere to be found. There is a pattern, and people are not stupid to see right through these gimmicks''. - Musa JENG
Father Mose, there you go again displaying your disingenuousness once again. You are aware of the fact that UDP extended a hand of friendship to pdois and invited them for talks and they were rebuffed. So if pdois cannot meet UDP at the table to talk out issues, why the hell will Ousainu share the same panel with halifa on freedom? You must be dreaming. If halifa wants a squabble, let him come to the table and meet ousainu there. He will have plenty of it.
Ousainu is not going to negotiate a coalition with anybody in the media. It has to be behind closed doors, and if STGDP doesn't like that; well you can go to hell.
As far as we are concern, STGDP is a bunch of incompetents that is not worth engaging. No wonder no one is taking notice of you. And by the way, who are you to dictate terms to the UDP or Ousainu? UDP is a sovereign party and it is not obliged to do things on your terms especially if they are that disingenuous as they currently are.
Cheers
DAFFEH
On 30 April 2011 21:30, Seedou Bajinka <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
UDP and it's supporters there we go.....in Gambia no one is going to challenge the UDP party's idealogy and stand on issues but we can challenge H/E PRES JAMMEH'S.Oh! well good luck with your dictatorial approach to people's desire for a more democratic society.May be a 2016 will be a better time for a coalition......APRC already won this forth coming election.Come and join the party for progress and stability APRC.
SLB
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 14:27:12 -0500
From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [>-<] Re: Unofficial results of the Bye-elections leaked!!!
To: [log in to unmask]
Kejau, Daffeh bit more than he can chew with his assignment. His craziness shows more about the UDP though. He writes on behalf of the UDP and they are in support of his stupidity. Thus, the UDP must be prepared for a volley in their court and not even the kitchen sink will be spared in the process. At some point, one cannot continue to ignore nuisance. Daffeh and the UDP can go to friggin HELL and see if folks care. Nothing, but a bunch of underachievers. These people are not interested in change for Gambia, but for themselves and they do not even hide it. You have not gotten power and you act like this, what are you going to do when you get real power? The sorry part is they act like lambs and can't do jack as Yaya plucks them at will to show Gambians that these bunch are not a threat to his abuse. Folks know my views regarding the opposition in the Gambia as a whole. If the UDP would not mind setting Daffeh on Gambians, then I am one Gambian that will meet this pretender on all fours and can do elbows if it got to that. Enough of this nonsense! If Daffeh and UDP want to draw folks into a brawl, then all will be game. So, let Daffeh continue with his silliness.
Joe
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 16:59:46 +0100
From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [>-<] Re: Unofficial results of the Bye-elections leaked!!!
To: [log in to unmask]
Sad, really sad. Daffeh calling everyone inadequate when you question UDP's stance. Much like fankung.
Sent from Kejau's iPhone
On 30 Apr 2011, at 10:53, UDP United Kingdom <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Like I said before, coalitions are not negotiated in the media but behind closed doors. There is a reason why the GMC came out with a statement of intent and one of it is because they have been engaged by the udp. OJ too will not certainly say he was not engaged by the udp nor will Hamat. These are the people/parties who willingly met us at the table. PDOIS on the other hand, crudely refused to do so and therefore, no proposal either verbal or written will be extended to them unless they agreed to meet the UDP at the table.
I am not going to respond to Demba Baldeh as he is a clueless attention seeker.
Pa samba, I have realised the need for a coalition with or without pdois since day one. When I first joined STGDP conference calls, this is the first thing I said. Musa Jeng very reluctantly gave a qualified support to the idea while that naive Banka manneh and the hysteric Joe sambou were like what?
I repeat once again, the udp will not put any proposal in the media to feed anybody's obsession. Our proposal will only be presented to parties who agree to meet us at the table, period. This is how coalitions are negotiated and it is the route we followed with the other parties i.e. PPP, GMC and NRP. I wonder why pdois should be given a different treatment.
UDP is very much aware of the fact that the other opposition parties and leaders are not baskets that we can put on our head and carry along. They have to be willing to come alone with us and if they choose not to, well there is nothing we can do about that.
I am not aware of any concession demand from OJ’s P.P.P that is not met by the UDP neither did I hear any declaration of intent by PDOIS, to be part of a UDP led alliance with conditions attached.
PDOIS is much about their Ayatollah’s Agenda 1444 and the gratification of his persona than anything else.
Kind Regards
Daffeh
On 30 April 2011 10:17, Lamin Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Musa
It is unbecoming of you to allege that Daffeh is in the "payroll of Jammeh". I am worried because I heard a similar sentiment on Freedom Radio by one Alhajie, one of Mr Mbai's regular pundits on Gambian affairs. He claimed, no swore, that Ousainou Darboe is in the pay of the Professor
Daffeh may hold views opposite to yours, but calling him "clueless" is not persuasive at all, and alleging he works for the Professor exposes you more than him.
You have a record to protect, and I suggest you do so objectively. You should not see yourself as under any compulsion to respond to Daffeh.
LJDarbo
--- On Sat, 30/4/11, [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
From: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: [>-<] Re: Unofficial results of the Bye-elections leaked!!!
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Saturday, 30 April, 2011, 1:17
Oh Lord! there he goes again, the Man really needs help. These are the kind of rhetoric and people who are the very stubmling bloc to bring an end to tyranny; it is not farfetched to entertain that people like him are in the payroll of Jammeh, or they are just clueless.
Thanks
Musa Jeng
----- Original Message -----
From: "UDP United Kingdom" <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 5:59:42 PM
Subject: Re: [>-<] Re: Unofficial results of the Bye-elections leaked!!!
It is high time that we acknowledge that fact that due to Halifa Sallah's arrogance and intransigence, a coalition of all opposition parties to confront Jammeh in 2011 is not possible to achieve. The focus should therefore shift to building a coalition of the willing instead.
The irrational opposition bashing that has become the hallmark of forum discussions is only playing in the hands of jammeh and giving him a political boost that he doesn't deserve.
Thanks
Daffeh
On 29 April 2011 22:47, UDP United Kingdom <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Kejaw, here is what I don't get, why does a coalition have to have PDOIS and UDP before it matters? Why couldn't the UDP bring everybody else on board, get on the road campaign seriously with PPP, NRP,and GMC and show the world they have everybody else but PDOIS and see how much pressure will be on PDOIS. Why wait for a skeptical partner to start working with everybody else.
Why does UDP think everybody else will rally around them when Amat and GMC are going about doing their own thing? Forget about PDOIS after all people don't many think they only control 3% of the electorate!!! What is the hold up???? - Demba
This is exactly what we intend to do. None of the other parties were dismissive of us in our discussions with them and I hope they will come along with us down this route. PEOPLE should be inclined to support a coalition with or without PDOIS and move on with the progressive agenda of nation building. This what the UDP UK has always advocated for but much to the annoyance of some particularly in the STGDP camp. So clearly, this is demba baldeh preaching to the choir.
thanks
Daffeh
On 29 April 2011 22:17, <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Demba
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Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 19:20:44 +0100
To: <[log in to unmask]>
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Subject: Re: [>-<] Re: Unofficial results of the Bye-elections leaked!!!
'UDP should have supported the opposition candidate and ask for for the coalition leadership in return. But another missed opportunity gone. I hope the opposition leadership learn the bitter lesson of defeat.' kejau
I agree and there was inclination to do exactly that. However, you will agree with me that such a move must have to be worked out and coordinated with PDOIS/NADD fiirst. Unfortunately, they have persistently refused to talk to the UDP despite been chased on almost all lines of communications. So how can the UDP make concessions to people who keep telling us we don't wanna hear you; go talk to the electorates. Well, we will talk to the electorates and but it will be about selling our manifesto to them.
Kejau, you have deliberately chosen to ignore the facts. You are merely engaged in essay writing. You better ask Musa Jeng; he was aware of the efforts UDP had made to extend a concession to PDOIS as was stated by [not in detail] Karamba Touray in STGDP organised conference call. Even today, if pdois accept udp's offer of talks, they will be engaged and concessions given. That is for sure. I say it because I know it. People should stop making sweeping statements and try to dig into the facts start. UDP's offer of talks is still on the table and it is up to PDOIS to accept it. We cannot force them to do so.
I am aware that the expectation of certain people here is for UDP to throw out something in the media to feed the academic obsession of a certain few who will in turn engender an irrational squabble over it. Well, that is not going to happen. Coalitions are not negotiated in the media but behind close doors- I have sure you you do remember UK's coalition negotiations. It was done in the Cabinet office and behind close doors. It was only after a final settlement was reached that a joint statement was put out in the media- and that is the convention the UDP will follow. However, if there is to be any coalition negotiation involving Pdois and UDP, our party will be more that happy to put out a statement at the end of that process regardless of its outcome, whether positive or negative.
In my view, there was no miss opportunity in the Wuli east bye-election. It is just a question of a well determined PDOIS to perpetuate a fait accompli.
Thanks
Daffeh
On 29 April 2011 15:52, [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
It's got to be the voter turnout. Without the coalition the voters will boycott again. So get your acts together and form a coalition otherwise it will be another apathy. Merely talking to the other parties may not be enough, instead make concessions and give assurances. UDP should have supported the opposition candidate and ask for for the coalition leadership in return. But another missed opportunity gone. I hope the opposition leadership learn the bitter lesson of defeat.
Sent from Kejau's iPhone
On 29 Apr 2011, at 15:34, Sanusi Owens <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Suntou
I have to commend you for your honest appraisal of the situation. Defeat at Wuli was a defeat for all stakeholders within the Opposition. We therefore need to sit down and study the situation as to how we can avoid a much awaited embarassment on 24 November 2011.
The figures shown last night is warning call for all us to think again and explore to the maximum the prospects of having a United Opposition against APRC.
Good weekend
Sanusi
--- On Fri, 29/4/11, suntou touray <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
From: suntou touray <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: [>-<] Re: Unofficial results of the Bye-elections leaked!!!
To: [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask]
Date: Friday, 29 April, 2011, 15:14
This is a disappointing news for our area people. Wulli East area has always gone for the incumbent party, since the times of Sainey Singhateh, Malang Saho etc. Wulli West is the more determine and militant region of the two. Suwaibou is well known in that area, I wonder what he should do to penetrate the elders and their local structures. I am sad for him, because he would have been a good MP.
I wonder whether his campaign team made use of the more active militants in Nyaikoi area. The signs were there that, going for the incumbent is a harden mole in Wulli East, I thought the Agenda 2011 would have dislodged such mindsets. Seriously, I was expecting a narrow marginal win for Suwaibou, but hey next time. I wish him all the best for the upcoming general elections.
Suntou
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 11:13 PM, M. Gassama <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Hi!
The results have just been announced on GRTS confirming Gainako's
figures. Have a good evening.
Buharry.
----Original Message----
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Date: 2011-04-28 23:52
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Subj: Unofficial results of the Bye-elections leaked!!!
Unofficial results of the bye-elections in Wuli East has been
leaked!
Results at: http://www.gainako.com/news/
Thanks
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