Steve, no joy I took off the power cable with no result. Thanks much. Junior Lolley KG4itd Liberty County E. C. -----Original Message----- From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Steve Forst Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 7:59 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: antennas out of service Junior, If you don't sort it out by removing power, or some other method of resetting the unit, LDG is good at answering e-mails and may be able to help you out. Good luck, Steve KW3A On 3/6/2011 7:36 PM, Junior Lolley wrote: > John, the tuner is a auto tuner. > It is the LDG AT250 pro auto tuner. > I will try disconnecting the power thanks. > > > Junior Lolley KG4itd > Liberty County E. C. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > On Behalf Of John Miller > Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 7:08 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: antennas out of service > > Is it an auto tuner? maybe if you disconnect power to if it is, for about 30 > > seconds, reset it, that might be something to try. I don't know which tuner > you're using. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Junior Lolley"<[log in to unmask]> > To:<[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 7:03 PM > Subject: Re: antennas out of service > > >> John, that what is making me believe the tuner went south. >> I knew the loop would show as a short. >> But the g5rv not working at the same time. >> I just wanted to try all options. >> I really want to thank you guys for your help it is very much appreciated. >> >> >> Junior Lolley KG4itd >> Liberty County E. C. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]] >> On Behalf Of John Miller >> Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 6:59 PM >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: Re: antennas out of service >> >> A loop will usually show a short as it does make a full loop, I'm tending >> to >> >> wonder about your tuner, As was said, the likelihood of both antennas >> going >> at once, unless something got them directly and I'd think you'd know if >> it >> did, it's just not all that likely. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Junior Lolley"<[log in to unmask]> >> To:<[log in to unmask]> >> Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 6:54 PM >> Subject: Re: antennas out of service >> >> >>> Colin, I tried connecting the antenna feed lines directly to the radio. >>> I did both antennas and got receive off both antennas. >>> In fact both antennas were receiving great. >>> I do get receive off of both antennas while connected to the tuner. >>> I am beginning to think the tuner went south on me. >>> Now on the coax for the loop when I put the continuity meter it does show >>> a >>> short somewhere. >>> Now the g5rv shows no short. >>> I am using a LDG AT250 PRO AUTO TUNER. >>> i DIDN'T HAVE ANY OF THE ANTENNAS CONNECTED UP WITH THE BAD WEATHER GOING >>> ON. >>> I have a short jumper going from the 706 mark II g to the tuner. >>> The continuity meter shows no short in the jumper. >>> Thanks for all of the ideas. >>> >>> >>> Junior Lolley KG4itd >>> Liberty County E. C. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: For blind ham radio operators >>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] >>> On Behalf Of colin McDonald >>> Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 6:24 PM >>> To: [log in to unmask] >>> Subject: Re: antennas out of service >>> >>> junior: >>> I don't know your set up well enough, but try connecting the coax feed >>> lines >>> >>> coming directly from the antennas, directly to the radio and see if you >>> can >>> at least get a noise level. >>> sounds like there is an issue with the tuner or parts there of. >>> It's pretty huge odds that both antennas failed at the same time...unless >>> you did get lightening and it blew out the tuner or something. >>> though I doubt that at this point. >>> Do you get any noise level right now with the original set up? or is >>> there >>> no noise, no receive etc? >>> If that is the case, try connecting the antenna or antennas directly to >>> the >>> radio and see if you get noise. If you do, then you'll know it is >>> something >>> >>> in the chain between the radio and the antenna feed lines. >>> 73 >>> Colin, V A6BKX >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Junior Lolley"<[log in to unmask]> >>> To:<[log in to unmask]> >>> Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 4:02 PM >>> Subject: Re: antennas out of service >>> >>> >>>> John, using your suggestion I replaced the jumper with an almost brand >>>> new >>>> one no joy. >>>> I don't have an antenna switch. >>>> The tuner has a button on it to switch from one antenna to the other. >>>> I put the continuity meter on the loop coax there is a short somewhere >>>> either on the short piece of coax or the ladder line. >>>> I sure can't climb that tower due to medical restrictions. >>>> I am glad you are coming up with some suggestions. >>>> Thanks very much John. >>>> >>>> >>>> Junior Lolley KG4itd >>>> Liberty County E. C. >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: For blind ham radio operators >>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] >>>> On Behalf Of John Miller >>>> Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 5:39 PM >>>> To: [log in to unmask] >>>> Subject: Re: antennas out of service >>>> >>>> It must be a jumper, or antenna switch if you have that, unless somehow >>>> both >>>> >>>> antennas came down, but if they're still up, it's got to be something >>>> close >>>> to the radio I'd think, make sure to check everything, jumper from the >>>> radio >>>> >>>> to the tuner, everything. The radio's just rolling back on power like a >>>> bad >>>> SWR? that's almost got to be something inside that both use, jumpers, >>>> something with the tuner, maybe a bad connection, something. >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Junior Lolley"<[log in to unmask]> >>>> To:<[log in to unmask]> >>>> Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 5:21 PM >>>> Subject: Re: antennas out of service >>>> >>>> >>>>> John, thanks for the idea but each antenna has a separate coax for it. >>>>> I will try another jumper. >>>>> Any ideas is appreciated. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Junior Lolley KG4itd >>>>> Liberty County E. C. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: For blind ham radio operators >>>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] >>>>> On Behalf Of John Miller >>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 5:18 PM >>>>> To: [log in to unmask] >>>>> Subject: Re: antennas out of service >>>>> >>>>> Wow, both of them? sounds like a bad jumper or some coax that's common >>>>> to >>>>> the 2 antennas. >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Junior Lolley"<[log in to unmask]> >>>>> To:<[log in to unmask]> >>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 5:12 PM >>>>> Subject: antennas out of service >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I don't know what happened yet but both the loop and the g5rv are not >>>>>> working. >>>>>> I disconnected them last night because of the possibility of bad >>>>>> weather. >>>>>> I hooked them up this morning no joy. >>>>>> Every time I try to tune either antenna the 706 mark II g goes into >>>>>> shutdown. >>>>>> I will catch you when and if I get them working again. >>>>>> 73 to all. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Junior Lolley KG4itd >>>>>> Liberty County E. 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