www.maafanta.com *Thoughts on Polygamy and the Treatment of Women **by Ginny Quick, Florida *Greetings, all, am feeling once again driven to contribute to a Maafanta discussion: this time as regards polygamy and the relationships between men and women, as they do kind of go hand in hand. First, though, polygamy. I am a Muslim, and have been so for about 10 and a half years now. And while I don't feel that polygamy should be banned, as it is a right given to the man by Allah, I also have to say that as it's practiced in many places in the world, it's a practice that I do not feel entirely comfortable with for myself. Perhaps it's my "Western/American upbringing", as I'm well, an American, but I really feel that just as men have a right to the practice, Islamicly, women also Islamicly have a right to say that a polygamous lifestyle may not be right for them. And I find Sankanu's reasons for polygamy to be a bit superficial and flimsy. I thought I'd read on Maafanta that he was a scholar (and an Islamic one at that), yet when he speaks of polygamy, I notice that he doesn't use any Islamic justification for the practice, but merely suggests that "others are doing it" and then semes to suggest that he and other men should be allowed to continue the practice "because we're Africans and that's part of our culture". No matter that he is all but telling people how to break local immigration law to do it (something that can get you deported if you're caught). And not only this, he talks of polygamy being good for women because they have other women around to gossip with, etc., as if all women are gossipy? So not only is he using cultural justifications, telling people how to break local immigration law, and saying polygamy is good for us women because of stereotypical "feminine qualities" that supposedly all women possess, but then he further generalizes how monogamous relationships work, and further implies that people in monogamous relationships just would go and get themselves a mistress anyway. And polygamy as a form of environmental responsibility and a cure for wastefulness? Now that's a new one on me. Here are my thoughts on polygamy. Firstly, it can work, if the man/husband is upfront and honest about it, no secret wives, no not telling the first/second/third wife that he's gone and gotten remarried. Everything should be up front and above board. I mean, why keep it a secret (and make it more like the supposed monogamous relationships Sankanu generalizes about, where infidelity has to be kept secret lest the wife/girlfirend finds out?), if polygamy is supposed to be all that, and OK, etc. People usually keep secrets because they've done something they don't want others to know about, or they've done something that they feel they're going to get chastized, etc., for. And for me as a woman, it's not the "sharing the husband" that would get me, it would be the finding out he got a second/third/fourth wife from his friend/cousin/her showing up on my doorstep. And it would be marrying the subsequent wife, not because he's taking care of orphans/widows, etc., as Islamicly recommended, but because he wants something more younger/beautiful, and he's gotten tired of the wife/wives he already has. i.e., I'm no longer good enough so he has to go out and get him some "fresh meat", as it were. And what if I'm a "global cowife", and my husband spends most of his time in another country? What about my/the woman's Islamic rights to companionship/sexual satisfaction, etc.? While a man can marry up to four women (and Sankanu continually refers to "mistresses" as well which is something else prohibited Islamicly) and thereby satisfy this for himself as he'd have a wife wherever he went, assuming he was going to the same place one of his wives were, what about the wive/wives left behind? I'm telling you, if I only saw my husband a few times a year, I'd get pretty lonely, and that would not be a marriage I'd want to be a part of. And that might actually be an example that goes against everything Sankanu is saying, i.e., polygamy would keep people from having mistresses, etc., because I might be forced to go and find a man to give me what my husband, being that he's halfway around the world, probably with his other wife, not able or willing to give me. And I think this is where the jealousy comes in. I'm reminded of that song by the SOS Band "Just Be Good To Me" where she says "I don't care 'bout those other girls, just be good to me". So if my husband is good to me and treats me well, if he chooses to take a subsequent wife, and he loves and respects me enough to tell me this, and even after he's taken the subsequent wife, he continues to treat me with the same love and respect as before, then I have no problem with polygamy. The issue is that across many cultures, the practice does not always work as it's supposed to. You have men favoring one wife over the other, you have cowives stirring up drama and fitna amongst each other, you have all kinds of drama that I personally would not want to be a part of. One marriage with one man and one woman is hard enough, it takes enough work and time and effort, so adding another marriage into the mix would just make things harder, not only for the man, who now has extra things to balance, but for the women as well, even if they don't engage in drama and aren't jealous. The problem is, men sometimes like to look at polygamy as halal/permissible opportunities for sex with a new person, when polygamy is not always supposed to be about that. I mean, if you look at the Qur'an, you see that the verses surrounding the verse specifically dealing with polygamy aren't talking about the practice being allowed because African men do it, or for men to be able to get their freak on with a new woman, but the verses are dealing specifically with the care of widows and orphans, and the verse on polygamy itself goes on further to state as translated into English as "if you cannot do justly between them, then marry only one"! And this is a very important caveat here. Along with the fact that per the Sunnah of the Prophet Muhammad, he did not always live polygamously as his marriage to Khadija demonstrates. Which further shows to me that while polygamy is an option and a right for a man, it is not absolute and it is a choice and it is something that women can choose whether or not they want to be a part of. As regards the "war of the sexes", i.e., the relationship between men and women, I can speak for myself only when I say, as Aretha Franklin says (and I just heard this song today actually) "All I want is a little respect". And it really bothers me that when women say that they may not want polygamy or they want more equality or autonomy in the relationship or they'd like a man to be more attentive to them, that they're just some kind of "liberal feminists" or something. You can't come to America and expect things to be the way it was back in the village, expecting your wife to cook, clean, take care of the kids and possibly work full time while you come home and just sit on your butt watching TV, not helping out at all. And this isn't just an African thing, a lot of American men do this too. If both of you are working, there's nothing saying that you as a man, especially if you still want the right to go gallavanting off to some far-flung place to spend time with Wife # 2, can't change a few diapers or spend time with the kids, or clean the house, etc., while your wife rests or has some time to herself. Probably the reason why back in the village the men could sit around all day and drink ataya while their wives cooked, cleaned, took care of the kids, etc., was because there were plenty of aunts, cousins, sisters, grandma's, etc., to do it, as it used to be here in the US, back when you didn't just have the nuclear family, back when you had a lot of extended family and neighbors around to help with the farmwork, etc. But in most of modern America, you just don't have that kind of lifestyle anymore. There's just you, your wife, and any kids you might have, which means that both you and the wife may have to share some of the household responsibilities. And culture aside, if the Prophet Muhammad himself helped out with the housework, then you as a mere human being shouldn't be too good for a bit of dish-washing, or taking out the trash, yourself. The problem with some, but not all men, is that they want to have their cake and eat it too, they want the "fun" of polygamy but not the responsibility that goes with it, they want their wife/wives to live up to a usually superficial/fantasy standard that just doesn't exist, i.e., the perfect body after 5 kids, the sex drive of a 20 year old after they've spent the day cooking, cleaning, taking care of the kids, after working a full time job, etc., and even if the man is polygamous, he still wants all of this in his wife/wives, and if she doesn't meet with his satisfaction/approval, he just goes and gets another wife. The thing is, women are not glorified children, or superhuman play-things, just as men need to feel respected, women need to feel respected and valued, etc., too. And I don't know how Sankanu thinks most of us women are, but I personally don't ask for much. If I do something nice for you, a "thank you" means a lot, or a compliment, or something to let me know that you appreciate all that I do for you as a wife/mother, etc. As they say, little things can add up to a whole lot. It just bothers me that women are portrayed by Sankanu as these demanding people who are too greedy and too unappreciative of their husbands, it's like he's demanding his rights, while not respecting the rights that women have. And it's unfortunate that this is coming from a supposed Islamic scholar on top of that. Who should also know that many Muslim scholars have said that a Muslim living in non-Muslim lands should abide by the laws of that land, which means no polygamy and thus no hiding it by calling your co-wife your cousin/sister, etc. If practicing of polygamy is so important to Sankanu and if it works so much better in Africa then perhaps he should instruct African men who wish to practice polygamy to stay in Africa where they are, instead of telling them how to get around the laws of the US/Europe to continue the practice here. However, in his defense of polygamy and upholding of the status quo as regards how women should behave and how women should be treated, I saw nary a peep about Islam, no quotes from the Quran, no exampels from the Sunnah of our beloved prophet, just a railing against Rohi for being a supposed "feminist", and an emotional screed about how Sankanu is an African and how because of this, he and other Africans should be allowed to continue the practice. And if he wants to argue the merits of polygamy from an African cultural context, that is one thing, but don't bring Islam into it, and don't trump Islam with culture, because Islam should always be the standard by which we judge a practice to be permissible or not, And this goes for all of us as Muslims, whether we're African, American, Chinese, etc. -- Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22 "And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. Verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran www.suntoumana.blogspot.com いいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいい To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: [log in to unmask] いいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいい