Kevin, I may just try to get my tower up and get the dx cc antenna. The problem with the vertical is that I have room on only 2 sides for radials. If facing the antenna, just the right and left side, the back is about 10 feet from a wood fence and the front is about 6 feet from my above ground pool. I am limited on space no matter what I do, the only place for an antenna is kind of an alley between an 8 foot wooden fence and my house, pool, and shack.