[In a message dated 6/2/2009 2:03:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Haruna you are well aware of the fact that this is an English language forum not french; or should I say must of the subscribers here are not that educated in french language as you might be.] Mams. Mams, who told you Ellen was an English language forum???? Heck its not even a Gambian forum. We place emphasis on things Gambian but Gambian by definition is not just English. Do you not agree? And that is why I think JDAM gets bantanbilly about my on-again off-again celebration of ATT, Mali, Dadis, La-Guinea, Austria, Germany, Japan, Burkina Faso, Nkurunziza, Karim, Jabou, Halifa, Kukeh, Ginny, Rajoelina, Dicko, The Netherlands, Bouteflika, Senegal, Karim Wade, Obama, The Olfactor, Evian, Caesar, Cherno/Jados, Ousainou, Laye, Suntou, Ginny, Jaybarteh, CamaraLaye, LTT, Bluegrass and Padukah, for no good reason. And how do you know most on Ellen are not educated in the French language? How do we know you didn't cut French class in Suomi? And if you did not learn French then, why would that make you hate Sarkozy? When you have the opportunity now, should you not be helping me learn French? What is wrong with you? I tried to ignore your kidnapping of Ginny but you are pushing me to ask you to prove she is safe and secure with you in SUomi? That is what the warrant would be for. Not to locate her but that she is well and good whereever she might be. So telling us she freely migrated because she might be disowned wont cut it. I think you're counting on Ginny not coming here to defend herself against your spurrious allegations. If I know Ginny, I wouldn't find comfort in that supposition. No one can hold her down. Especially from defending herself. And the lady told you she will retire from Gambian issues, not Ellen. Unless of course she too is equating Ellen with a Gambian forum like you are doing. The jury is still out on that. I will wait to hear what Ginny has to say about that. [Therefore, posting an article in french, you are also asking people to tell you to translate them] Mams. You are the master of convoluted logic. How do you mean Mams? Didn't you just ask your namesake to translate the Hadith for you in English that you may acquire knowledge about Islam? Or are you just l'ingOL? Again? Do you speak Arabic Mams? This is not a trick question. [so don't complain my brother] Mams. Wait a minute. You're the one complaining about me sending French to Ellen. I was just sharing with Karim that if I translate medical or legal technical information, and on account of my suspect knowledge in these two areas, you might keey yoursef. I was only worried about you my friend. And Evian of course. You notice Evian speaks French. I guess you're the only one on Ellen who was cutting French class at Marina International. [what you demanded is what you are getting laugh out loud and be happy for showing off you intelligence] Mams. Don't try to pin your namesake's Hadith on me. You're the one who felt insulted. Don't try to pass it on to me. You're on your friggin own. Trying to start trouble surreptitiously. I don't wanna hear it. [instead of complaining.] Mams. You're pissing me off. I told you I wasn't complaining. Now go settle your problems with your namesake. I know you wouldn't get far and you'd be right back here trying to draw me in. It appears to me you started messing with Mr. Jah some place else and you followed the man here. If he left you where you were, why would you follow the man all over the place. You my friend are a schoolyard bully. You have those tendencies. She was disowned my foot. I got both eyes on yew Mams. And don't play victim with me again. I know you more than any other Elleanor. [I still love you no matter what and don't get me funny; I love woman in that other ways hehehe.] Mams. What does loving Haruna have to do with your love for women. And how can you love a woman like you love me. There you go again, yielding unnecessary query about your sexual orientation. Keep your women to yourself gaddamit. And don't love me like you love women. SOmething tells me you don't do that too well. And please don't tell me how many kids you got. Be careful in Suomi. I hear they like frolicking on the beach nude. I'm just saying. What's a big tall Fulani man doing in Helsinki anyway? [If Allah however, wants men and men to have close intimacy, he wouldn't have fulfilled Adam's request of loneliness by producing Eve laugh.] Edie. No I ain't laughing. And it ain't funny. Who told you Adam was lonely? And who told you woman was cure for loneliness?? You go get a woman because you're lonely. You might end up with a lonely pair. What??? In that case I ask Suntou to introduce Jaawula to you. For some reason she doesn't like me. And I am close to announcing my candidature for the Presidency of The Republic of Gambia. I will not be held hostage by Suntou any longer. And why can't you learn French when you're bored or lonely?????? What have the French people done to you??? I'm not your companion. Haruna. --- On Tue, 2/6/09, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote: From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Neurosurgeon Dr. Oumar Diallo of the Gabriel Toure' University hospital discusses herniated discs. To: [log in to unmask] Date: Tuesday, 2 June, 2009, 7:56 PM Not you too Brother Karim!! You're killing me. I thought it was just Evian and Laye. BTW, is it just me, or has Kukeh not been with us for over a month? WHere is he? Karim, I generally shy away from translating medical and legal articles. That is because you never know if Mams is waiting to use anything resembling advice. And my French is not that good to transummarize technical material comfortably. I always look forward to transummarizing other articles of plain news, the environment, political developments, engineering, sociology, and landscaping. I was hoping I could just sneak this article in and go quietly on to another topic, but you caught me Karim. Just for you my friend, I will attmpt to summarize this article. The article discusses the condition of herniated discs which most people often erroneously associate with back pain. Back pain does result from a herniated disc but not all back pain is a result of a herniated disc. Disclaimer: Please do not rely on any information I share here as a substitute for your primary care doctor's advice. I am not a doctor, I just play one on Ellen. Ok, so about 80% of our discs are water when we're young. As we age, they lose this water along with their super elasticity. It becomes more and more difficult to lift less and less weight. The structure of the discs are such that they contain a gelatinous core surrounded by a fibrous periphery. Their main function is to facilitate movement and absorb the impact of shock on ou r spinal cord. As we place a load on the spinal cord, they compress and expand outward. When the load exceeds the elasticity of these discs, we can experience a tear or shear in the fibrous periphery. This accelerates the loss of water and gelatinous matter. As the discs expand and impinge on the vertebrae, we get the painful sensation of back pain. When caught early, herniated disc can be treated with medication. More advanced and severe conditions require surgery. The doctor advices proper lifting techniques. Squat (Nyonkoto) and lift. Don't bend over and lift. Exercise regularly or engage in low-impact sports. Strengthen your stomach muscles, leg muscles, hand muscles, and other muscles that help support the vertebral column and bear moe weight on these other muscles when you lift. Allah went through all tis trouble to protect our fiber-optic conduit (Spinal cord). Help keep it safe and secure. Mams, no bending over backwards when you lift. Allez. Haruna. Easy Karim. -----Original Message----- From: abdoukarim sanneh <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 7:13 am Subject: Re: Neurosurgeon Dr. Oumar Diallo of the Gabriel Toure' University hospital discusses herniated discs. Hello Brother Haruna You keep sending20interesting piece in French can you please help to do some translation in English. I have found the other piece on OMVG that you translate into English so educative. I am really interested in the hydro-politic in the management of the Gambia River Basin. Currently a trans country project funded by African Development Bank on under implementation for sustainable natural resource management of the Gambia River Basin. ____________________________________ Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 21:52:29 -0400 From: [log in to unmask] (mip:[log in to unmask]) Subject: Neurosurgeon Dr. Oumar Diallo of the Gabriel Toure' University hospital discusses herniated discs. To: [log in to unmask] (mip:[log in to unmask]) Hernie discale : UNE PRISE EN CHARGE PEU COMPLIQUÉE l'Essor n°16454 du - 2009-06-02 08:00:00 Le Dr Diallo Oumar, neurochirurgien au centre hospitalo-universitaire (CHU) Gabriel Touré A condition que le traitement suive les principes édictés par les spécialistes La hernie discale, une maladie moins connue du grand public, reste pourtant une réelle préoccupation de santé publique dans notre pays. Sans donner de statistiques exactes à l'échelle nationale, le Dr Oumar Diallo, neurochirurgien au centre hospitalo-universitaire (CHU) Gabriel Touré donne une indication de la tendance. Il y a environ 200 cas de consultation neurochirurgique par an sur la question. Ces cas sont répertoriés et traités médicalement ou chirurgicalement par des médecins spécialistes. La hernie discale qui est très souvent assimilée à tort à un mal de dos qui en est la conséquence. Parfois mêmes les intellectuels sont pris dans la nasse et s'enlisent dans les mêmes confusions. Mais le Dr Oumar Diallo, neurochirurgien, nous donne des explications sur cette malad ie. La pathologie est définie par les neurochirurgiens comme la saillie du matériel discal dans le canal vertébral. Le disque qui se trouve entre deux vertèbres joue le rôle d'amortisseur des mouvements et charges du corps. Selon le Dr Diallo Oumar, neurochirurgien au centre hospitalo-universitaire (CHU) Gabriel Touré, ce disque est composé de 80% d'eau pendant la jeunesse. Mais il s'assèche au fur et à mesure de l'évolution pour perdre en élasticité, en mobilité et en hauteur. Ce qui, à en croire le neurochirurgien de Gabriel Touré, fait que le moindre mouvement va entraîner une fissure du disque qui va sortir pour comprimer un ligament de la partie pos térieure des vertèbres et créer un mal de dos. Les spécialistes s'accordent à reconnaître que si rien n'est fait à ce niveau, le mal peut continuer et la hernie va rompre le ligament et aller comprimer le nerf. Conséquence les douleurs sciatiques d'où le nom de lombosciatique par la hernie discale. En d'autres termes, il s'agit de douleurs qui partent de la zone sciatique vers les jambes. La hernie discale est une maladie dont la prise en charge n'est pas assez compliquée mais répond à des principes. Le Dr Oumar Diallo précise que le premier traitement est forcément médical (excepté les urgences comme les hernies sciatiques, douloureuses ou paralysantes). Il doit s'étendre sur quelques semaines voire 2 mois et demi. Généralem ent ce traitement donne de bons résultats. Le neurochirurgien de Gabriel Touré se veut on ne peut plus clair. Pour lui, il ne faut surtout pas se presser pour opérer. Lorsque le traitement médical échoue, il faut envisager cette alternative thérapeutique. Dans l'imaginaire populaire, la neurochirurgie nécessite des équipements de pointe pour assurer une prise en charge correcte des pathologies en la matière. Pourtant Oumar Diallo soutient une thèse contraire. Pour lui, on a besoin du matériel sophistiqué pour opérer. A ce propos, il assure que les neurochirurgiens opèrent 20 à 35 de ces malades par an. Quelquefois après il reste un fonds de lombalgie mais moindre par rapport aux douleurs antérieures. La h ernie discale répond bien au traitement. Mais la pratique dans les pays africains notamment le nôtre, c'est que les malades n'ont pas forcément recours tôt aux médecins. Chez nous le thérapeute traditionnel, qui se réclame dépositaire d'une médecine à plusieurs vertus, reste bien des égards le premier contact du malade. Celui-ci endure des épreuves à ce niveau avant de recourir aux compétences médicales. Les spécialistes conseillent d'avoir une hygiène de dos pour ne pas s'exposer à une hernie discale. Il est avéré, selon des données scientifiques, qu'un individu fait 2000 inclinaisons par jour. Il faut donc ménager son dos en ne faisant pas de gestes brusques ou parf ois imprudents. Oumar Diallo incite à la pratique du sport et au renforcement des abdominaux et des muscles lombaires qui soutiennent le dos et de consulter immédiatement un médecin après une première crise. Rappelons que le disque a une partie centrale gélatineuse et une partie périphérique fibreuse. 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