this article link sent by michael says the percentage of the bradley effect is 2 1/2 points. at todays polling this could cause penn. and virginia to swing. maybe other states. 2 or 3 points in a tight state could loose a state and cost the election. --- On Mon, 9/22/08, Michael H. Collis <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > From: Michael H. Collis <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: a statement of opinion and an statement of a not so good fact > To: [log in to unmask] > Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 5:52 PM > That's what I read... Let me see if I can dig the > article up. here it is... > http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AP_YAHOO_POLL_OBAMA_RACE?SITE=WBZAM&SECTION=POLITICS&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2008-09-21-07-08-29 > > > ---- Original message ---- > >Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:16:00 -0700 (PDT) > >From: ken barber <[log in to unmask]> > >Subject: Re: a statement of opinion and an statement of > a not so good fact > >To: "Michael H. Collis" > <[log in to unmask]> > > > >let me be clear? 30% of white DEMOCRATS? did they poll > independamnts? i'd think they think all republicans are > out anyway. > > > > > >--- On Mon, 9/22/08, Michael H. Collis > <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > >> From: Michael H. Collis <[log in to unmask]> > >> Subject: Re: a statement of opinion and an > statement of a not so good fact > >> To: [log in to unmask] > >> Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 3:13 PM > >> i know you were messing with me. and I was messing > right > >> back. The fact that some people might not vote > for Obama > >> because of prejudice was brought out in an article > on MSNBC. > >> The artiicle stated that roughly a third of white > Dems would > >> not vote for Obama because they were prejudiced. > It's a > >> sad day. > >> > >> ---- Original message ---- > >> >Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 08:27:42 -0700 > >> >From: ken barber <[log in to unmask]> > >> >Subject: a statement of opinion and an > statement of a > >> not so good fact > >> >To: [log in to unmask] > >> > > >> >i have been messing around with mike for a few > post. > >> > > >> >do politicians lie? duh? there is an old joke; > >> "how do you know a politician is lying? , his > mouth is > >> moving." > >> > > >> >you see politicians promising lots of things > and we > >> know there is not enough money to deliver. we see > them say > >> things about something the other one said and we > say, > >> "that is a little out of context." > >> > > >> >we see them say something that after you look > behind > >> the statement is just a silly innuendo. > >> > > >> >then sometimes we hear something that is just > a big > >> whopping lie. > >> > > >> >my opinion is that politicians lie quite a > bit. > >> > > >> >now the unsavory fact. in the states where the > polls > >> show obama leading by 1-3 points in the polls, do > not be > >> surprised if he loses the state. there is > something called > >> the Bradley effect. basically it is the fact that > some > >> people will not tell pollers that they will not > vote for a > >> black person but when they vote they do let their > prejudice > >> take control. not the way it should be, but it is > there. > >> there are not as many bigots as there once was but > there are > >> still some bigots out there. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >----------------------- > >> > > >> >To change your mail settings or leave the > C-PALSY list, > >> go here: > >> > > >> > >http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?SUBED1=c-palsy > > > > > > ----------------------- To change your mail settings or leave the C-PALSY list, go here: http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?SUBED1=c-palsy