Shame, I've given up all my Hahoogroups mailings because I got bounced off them so many times, due I think to possible slow connections from our ISP, which seems to be quite common over here with folk. I just don't want that hassle any more. Anyway, Julie, I'll think about it over Christmas and the new year and see waht I can do. Thanks for the information. -- Carol - Reading, UK To you, o Lord, I lift up my soul; In You I trust, o my God. . . .." PS25:1-2 NIV.