That's why some of us drink out of Prell bottles. Tw Ralph True, and I suppose we can overcome any issues by getting the "wine in a box" and just sitting on the kitchen floor below the counter. V.I. I don't think people with granite countertops can sit on the floor OR drink wine from a box. Ralph ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://listserv.icors.org/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html>