Brian, They certainly are fragile. I have been nursing estimate & project data records along with business contacts going back possibly 10 years or more. There have been a few times when I have been real close to losing large portions of the data. I am very aware of the need for redundant back-up. For me the data is an essential asset of the business and without it we might find ourselves in a different business. That all said, the leisure 'music' data was not juggled quite as well and when the funny noises started I knew that I had to act. I just did not act fast enough. What I also lost was PTN data, including my collection of PTN photos (I suspect the most comprehensive collection around), going back to the beginning of the organization. If the past evaporates then what we do have is the present. Eventually my lottery ticket will come in and I will think to spring for the data recovery. In the mean time there is work to be done before the weather closes us in... though if it is anything like last year we won't find any time to stop and recover ourselves, let alone lost data. ][< -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://listserv.icors.org/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html>