Keep talking! Joe >From: "George Sarr" <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: [log in to unmask] >To: "'The Gambia and related-issues mailing list'" ><[log in to unmask]> >CC: <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: [>-<] RE: Attn: List Managers >Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 20:01:40 -0400 > >[ This e-mail is posted to Gambia|Post e-Gathering by "George Sarr" ><[log in to unmask]> ] > > >Keep blowing hot air as usual. We all know the criminal that was scheming >to >shut down the Gambia Post and failed miserably. The Mighty is still here, a >million strong. Like I keep telling you idiots, you can't keep a good man >down, no matter how hard you try. Your threats are hardly news. > >I suggest you take a good look at yourself in a mirror. You promised the >Gambians a land full of honey and milk. Not me. And now that it is clear to >all that anything you put your incompetent little fingers goes to rack and >ruins, you decide to turn the attention to me, all over again, just stuck >on >stupid. What you fail to grasp is I'm not the enemy, nor do I have your >time. Get a grip! > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list >[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Joe Sambou >Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 7:17 PM >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: Attn: List Managers > >How dare you posture! Did you not do the same criminal activity that you >call yourself being against? What source are you talking about? Malik >stated he did not forward anything to you, so where the hell did you get it >from, except invading the same e-mail address you provided him? I just >brought your criminal activity up because when you did it, only a handful >call you out on it, and a name that comes to mind is Yus. All knows that >the last person I will bat for is Fast Eddy and will call for his head on >this one, but you are in that same category for you committed the same >crime. Sit there and think I have an axe to grind against you, like you >are > >something I will worry about. No, I am addressing both your criminal >activities and will call your name any day and you know my address if you >want to do something about it, or better yet, do something when I come to >Atlanta in a couple of weeks. You know I hold no prisoners! What ever you >say here, just be prepared to back it up some day. See you soon! > >Chi Jaama > >Joe > > > >From: <[log in to unmask]> > >To: <[log in to unmask]> > >CC: <[log in to unmask]>, <[log in to unmask]> > >Subject: Re: Attn: List Managers > >Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 17:40:14 -0400 (EDT) > > > >Joe, > > It's no secret that you have an axe to grind and will gloat at the > >slightest opportunity to slander my name just like you did to those > >innocent and hardworking Gambians in that despicable e-mail. Now then, > >what proof do you have that I "illegally accessed a private > >correspondence" you had? None whatsoever. And I'm not going to bury my > >source either. I'm not a snitch. Joe, the sooner you quit lying about me > >and grow up the better. George Sarr is on some grown man shit! . Let his > >nuts go, faggot. Goddame! > > > >"I was a thorn in his flesh" > >Don't flatter yourself, faggot. Eat friggin' a dick! (lekal chu chu! >mofo) > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you Malanding and Laye. I am glad that this criminal behavior >is > > > addressed. As you all know, I was a victim at the Gambia Post, when > > > George illegally accessed a private correspondence I had with malik > > > (from the e-mail address he provided Malik) just because I was a >thorn > > > in his flesh. Most of the readership turned the other way and some > > > were even happy that it happened to Joe. The good thing was that >what > > > I said in that mail was no secret for I said it to him in public. My > > > thoughts at the time was, if I was hiding my ID and made comments > > > regarding the butcher, this fellow would not have hesitated to offer >me > > > for a lynching. Thus, we should never be too tired to address >criminal > > > behavior against any, by any, for it is also an assault on our > > > collective. > > > > > > Chi Jaama > > > > > > Joe > > > > > > > > >>From: Radio Free Gambia <[log in to unmask]> > > >>Reply-To: [log in to unmask] > > >>To: [log in to unmask] > > >>Subject: Re: Attn: List Managers > > >>Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 09:19:25 -0500 > > >> > > >>Thanks for the prompt action. I hope the list management comes to a > > >> conclusion that will help maintain and enhance the sense of privacy >and > > >> security on this list. > > >> > > >>-BambaLaye > > >> > > >>On Wed, June 7, 2006 11:21 pm, Malanding Jaiteh said: > > >> > BambaLaye, > > >> > I understand concern that the right to scream fire must stop >outside > > >> the theater hall. The rest of the management must be offline now > > >> but given the urgent need to protect the innocence, I have decided > > >> to temporarily suspend Mr Jallow's right to post until management > > >> have time to discuss the matter. Have a good night. > > >> > > > >> > Malanding > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Radio Free Gambia wrote: > > >> > > > >> >>Thanks Malanding for your prompt response: > > >> >> > > >> >>"Perhaps I may add that it was the management's own initiative and > > >> not Pa's request to suspend the suspect account pending > > >> verification." > > >> >> > > >> >>I seek to prompt for similar management initiative be taken to > > >> protect > > >>Pa > > >> >>Nderry Mbai's privacy pending (1)either Ebou Jallow proving beyond > > >> reasonable doubt that he is not compromising Mbai's email account or > > >> (2)Mbai confirming to all that Ebou has legitimate and explicit > > >>authority > > >> >>to forward his(Mbai's) messages to the list. > > >> >> > > >> >>Messages are being forwarded from the same suspect(and > > >> >>protected)account(s)through Ebou Jallow's email account(s)as we > > >> speak. Does management have to wait for the Pa Nderry to complaint > > >> to protect > > >> >> his > > >> >>privacy? > > >> >> > > >> >>There appears to be two different thresholds set for management > > >> action > > >>on > > >> >>the same issue. This needs to be revisited for the sake of the > > >> integrity of this respected list. > > >> >> > > >> >>Sis Jabu, thanks for your added perspective. I'm about to scratch >my > > >> > > >>head > > >> >>too. Have a great night. > > >> >> > > >> >>-BambaLaye > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >>On Wed, June 7, 2006 10:07 pm, Malanding Jaiteh said: > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >>>Sister Jabou and BambaLaye, > > >> >>>While I agree that Mr Jallow's forward of what seem to be personal > > >> mail sent to Pa Nderry should concern us, I still believe that it > > >> would be unprecedented for management to delist Ebou Jallow > > >> without evidence tying him to any wrong doing or violating Pa > > >> Nderry's privacy. As far > > >>as > > >> >>>I can tell Pa Nderry is yet to report his address being spoofed >to > > >> G-l management or Ebou Jallow is forwarding his private mails > > >> without conscent. > > >> >>>Perhaps I may add that it was the management's own initiative and > > >> not Pa's request to suspend the suspect account pending > > >> verification. Unfortunately I am yet to hear from any of the > > >> managers that Pa contacted them about the suspended account. > > >> >>> > > >> >>>While Pa may have been too busy sorting things out I would imagine > > >> it not very hard hard to send personal messages to management (some > > >> of > > >>whom > > >> >>>he had direct access) about his situation. Although it would be > > >> fair to state that he did through Mr Mballow asked to be > > >> resubscribed today, I hope he would in the future be unambiguous > > >> about the status of Ebou's postings, but until the G-l management > > >> cannot act. > > >> >>> > > >> >>> Malanding > > >> >>> > > >> >>>[log in to unmask] wrote: > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>>>Laye, > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>>I had also arrived at the same conclusions that it made sense to > > >> >>>> de-list > > >> >>>>Ebou Jallow because with Pa Nderry's declaration that his site > > >> was illegally > > >> >>>>hacked and his private communications illegally acquired by the > > >> >>>> hackers > > >> >>>>( and > > >> >>>>we all saw that evidence which the management said was the >reason > > >> > > >>they > > >> >>>>decided > > >> >>>>to de-list his email address for the time being) and Ebou > > >> Jallow's posting > > >> >>>>of emails he clearly labels as intercepted private communication > > >> to > > >>Pa > > >> >>>>Nderry > > >> >>>>was what led me to also suggest that Ebou Jallow should be > > >> de-listed > > >> >>>> but > > >> >>>>Malanding offered an explanation that still has me scratching my > > >>head. > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>>Jabou Joh > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>>In a message dated 6/7/2006 8:42:29 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > > >> [log in to unmask] writes: > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>>List Managers: > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>>I am suggesting that - under the circumstances of Pa Nderry > > >> Mbai's > > >> >>>> claim > > >> >>>>of his email account being tampered with lately - Ebou Jallow > > >> ([log in to unmask] and [log in to unmask]) be asked to > > >>demonstrate > > >> >>>>to > > >> >>>>the list that he has explicit permission from Pa Nderry Mbai to > > >> >>>> forward > > >> >>>>Mr. Mbai's private messages to the list. Barring any >satisfactory > > >> demonstration (the standard should be obvious to all)by Mr. > > >> Jallow, > > >>he > > >> >>>>should be immediately delisted in accordance with set rules of > > >> the > > >> >>>> list. > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>>I believe it is under the circumstances of Mr. Mbai's claim of > > >>illegal > > >> >>>>compromise that his (Mr. Mbai's) email account was delisted - > > >> because > > >> >>>> he > > >> >>>>purported to not have control of his email account. It defies > > >> logic > > >> >>>> (in > > >> >>>>my > > >> >>>>opinion) to see his private messages being forwarded to the list > > >> with > > >> >>>> no > > >> >>>>explicit raising of eyebrows by the list management. Not to my > > >> >>>> knowledge > > >> >>>>so far. > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>>There has been precedent to such behavior on the list and the > > >> outcome was > > >> >>>>swift and clear to all. > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>>My apolgies if this issue is being dealt with under the >shadows. > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>>-BambaLaye > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>>On Wed, June 7, 2006 6:42 pm, Ebou Jallow said: > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>>>*From*: [log in to unmask] > > >> >>>>>*Sent*: Friday, May 19, 2006 5:54 AM > > >> >>>>>*To*: [log in to unmask] > > >> >>>>>*Subject*: Our Private Lives- Pa Nderry an observation please > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>>Pa Nderry, > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>>I am a visitor to your site. Congrats for setting up the online > > >> news service. I enjoy alot going through it .However what is > > >> disturbing > > >>to > > >> >>>>>me > > >> >>>>>is > > >> >>>>>that people's private lives are constantly dragged into what > > >> seems > > >>to > > >> >>>>>have > > >> >>>>>no links with issues that are relevant to national development. > > >> My first > > >> >>>>>example is mentioning who had a child with Tamsir Jassey and the > > >> >>>>> second > > >> >>>>> is > > >> >>>>>the said report on Ambassador Crispin Johnson. I don't know him > > >> but > > >>I > > >> >>>>>think > > >> >>>>>it is unfair to disclose his personal life who he is living > > >> with, or who > > >> >>>>>he > > >> >>>>>sleeps with, excuse my bluntness. It sounds so ridiculous to >me. > > >> It makes > > >> >>>>>me > > >> >>>>>wonder do we have some online saints? Really not. Talking about > > >> corruption, > > >> >>>>>politics and everything affecting us as a nation is right, but > > >>trying > > >> >>>>>to > > >> >>>>>smear others just for the sake of it is something else. Whoever > > >> your source > > >> >>>>>is on alledged sexual harassmnet meted out to her by any one > > >> should have > > >> >>>>>the > > >> >>>>>guts to speak out, without hiding. Keeping silent entrenches >the > > >> problem. > > >> >>>>>If > > >> >>>>>it is true, I know it is not only the said ambassador who is > > >> guilty > > >> >>>>> of > > >> >>>>>sexual harassment in the Gambia, not only in government, it is > > >> every where > > >> >>>>>in our schools, in the private offices, in our houses, in the > > >> media. > > >> >>>>> I > > >> >>>>>am > > >> >>>>>presently working on a book to be published in some months >ahead > > >> and one > > >> >>>>>of > > >> >>>>>the themes explored is sexual harassment in The Gambia.. I am >not > > >> trying > > >> >>>>>to > > >> >>>>>defend the ambassador becuase I am a government officer but I >am > > >> writing > > >> >>>>>an > > >> >>>>>independent opinion and certainly as a journalist as well. I > > >> know > > >>his > > >> >>>>>name > > >> >>>>>casually like the name of any other person of high portfolio in > > >> government. > > >> >>>>>Thats all but I feel it is not right to denigrate him on no > > >> grounds, > > >> >>>>> I > > >> >>>>>think > > >> >>>>>it is a matter of personal choice whether he lives with his > > >> family or alone. > > >> >>>>>In fact most of us are living away from our families outside >the > > >> country. > > >> >>>>>If > > >> >>>>>he is corrupt or kind of issues that concern us as a nation, >why > > >> > > >>not, > > >> >>>>>belch > > >> >>>>>it out, sure we all need to know, but otherwise, things like >who > > >> >>>>> drinks > > >> >>>>>beer > > >> >>>>>or has a girl friend in the corner is not substantiate enough >to > > >> use valuable time on our newspapers that have such a lofty > > >> mission. We > > >> >>>>> have > > >> >>>>>more > > >> >>>>>pressing issues to discuss. I saw no link either with mentioning > > >> that Katy > > >> >>>>>Joh had a daughter with Tamsir to national issues.I dont know >her > > >> > > >>but > > >> >>>>> I > > >> >>>>>feel > > >> >>>>>it is equally ridiculous to say that. > > >> >>>>>Most times i feel it so hard to figure out whether I am reading > > >> >>>>> reports > > >> >>>>>or > > >> >>>>>some personal opinions on freedom newspaper on line. A newspaper > > >> >>>>> report > > >> >>>>> is > > >> >>>>>not a page of fiction neither a chapter on a creative novel nor >a > > >> summary > > >> >>>>>of > > >> >>>>>a boigraphical tale. > > >> >>>>>Therefore Mr. Mbai, I am saying keep up the good work and > > >> congrats > > >> >>>>> for > > >> >>>>>establishing the newspaper online. But focus on better issues, > > >> we > > >> >>>>> have > > >> >>>>>loads > > >> >>>>>of bags of relevant issues on national developemnt to unload. > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>>Mariama Khan > > >> >>>>>Postgraduate student > > >> >>>>>Turin, italy > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>>autho- Futa Toro > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>>Coauthor -Juffureh Kissing you with hurting lips > > >> >>>>>and Proverbs of The Senegambia > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>>Mariama Khan > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>>いいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいい > > >> >>>>>To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to >the > > >> Gambia-L > > >> >>>>>Web interface > > >> >>>>>at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>>To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: > > >> >>>>>http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l > > >> >>>>>To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: > > >> >>>>>[log in to unmask] > > >> >>>>>いいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいい > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>> > > >> 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