Hi all, I just have to jump into this can of worms! GRIN! I didn't start out as a novice, though I should have! I certainly could have pass the 5 WPM without any problems, but for some reason, the elmer who was supposed to give a bunch of us our code tests, fell ill, or something! Do you remember that Steve? I got my original call, WB8LDU as a senior in high School and was a Technician for ten years or so until I got my general in 81 and then my advanced in 83. I think if they drop the code, they should somehow make applicants show a knowlidge of the code, if not the ability to send or recieve it! 73 and 88 whare appropriate: J. J. John Jacques Amateur Radio Station: KG7FA "Whare Cat Is, Is Civilization!"