Since I have them both on the same computer, its a shame that I can't make window-eyes use the jfw eloquence. I guess that would be to easy. Are there any other solutions other than dectalk or something similar? Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Bishop" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 9:28 PM Subject: Re: help needed Hi Richard, Yes, jfw does have the better speech quality. One reason is that they use a proprietary version of Eloquence where Window eyes uses the off-the-shelf version. So if you have the two screen readers on the same machine they will actually use two separate eloquence engines as window eyes cannot detect the presence of the jfw eloquence engine. Don On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 21:17:15 -0500, Richard Fiorello wrote: Hi everyone; I am still trying to find a new home for my p2000 cw meter. If you know any blind hams that aren't on the list who might be interested keep me in mind. I'm trying to get rid of priceless clutter. Secondly as a totally unrelated question, has anyone here used both jfw and window-eyes? No we're not getting into the which is better battle but I sent gw micro some e-mail asking how I could improve the speech quality without going to a dectalk. Jfw seems to have far superior speech. I thought that jfw used eloquence. GW tells me that they too use eloquence. If all that foolishness is correct I wonder why I'm not getting anything like the same audio quality with window-eyes? stumps me but lots of things do. Rich __________ NOD32 1.1421 (20060228) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com