Try four. And an ex-wife. -----Original Message----- From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 14:08:24 EST Subject: Re: [BP] [forum-l] Primer for Rusty Metal Surfaces In a message dated 11/11/2005 12:14:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: 3 kids I'd more likely to freak out from the proximity to three kids... Twybil