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From:  Amadu Kabir Njie <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To:  The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]>
To:  [log in to unmask]
Subject:  Re: Credibility/ Mr Sanneh
Date:  Sun, 13 Nov 2005 21:13:40 +0000
>I responded to Tinkara hours many hours ago but the mail does not seem to have come thru:
>
>Tunkara,
>
>I for one, am worried by the thinking that anybody who stands up to fight for their rights is doing so because of ambitions they habour for eventually gaining political office.
>
>I have never read anywhere Joe's statement of aspirations for political office; some do what they do out of dignity, the feeling of self-worth and hatred for injustice and lies. You have seen those who have confessed their aspiration for political office but somehow decided instead to imply the contrary.
>
>I am sure if Joe haboured any aspirations for political office, his stance on issues would have been very different from what anybody, despite what they may claim here, know the reality to be.
>
>If by any chance however, Joe should end up in office, I'd prefer him any day over what obtains today as he is an honest, dedicated person who matches his words with deeds. Not only has he put his money where his mouth is, he has been relentlessly calling on others to do so. Never have I known him to have told a lie either!
>
>Regards,
>
>Kabir.
>
>
>Lang Tunkara <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>
>Jabou:
>
>You wrote:
>
>"empty chatterboxes with a limited  vocabulary that
>consists largely of profanity and disrespectful language,  supplemented by
>unmistakable dictatorial tendencies as an indication of  said characters having
>prevailed over anyone"
>
>You are absolutely right, and I think they should be ashamed of themselves.  But the big question is, what the future holds for the Gambia if these folks, charaterise above, succeed in becoming part of an administration that replaces Jammeh?  It is scary.
>
>Lamin
>
>Joe Sambou <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>
>
>Tunkareh, as to a future role in a NADD government please do not loose sleep
>on that as far as I am concerned. Believe it or not, but there are those of
>us out here that have no interest in being part of a NADD government. Our
>interest is purely a need for Democracy and rule of law in The Gambia. One
>thing that is good about time, it validates truth or dishonesty, so just be
>patient. Good luck with your goal to run things in the Gambia.
>
>Chi Jaama
>
>Joe
>
>
> >From: Lang Tunkara
> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> >
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: Credibility/ Mr Sanneh
> >Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 17:02:38 +0000
> >
> >
> >
> >Jabou:
> >
> >You wrote:
> >
> >"empty chatterboxes with a limited vocabulary that
> >consists largely of profanity and disrespectful language, supplemented by
> >unmistakable dictatorial tendencies as an indication of said characters
> >having
> >prevailed over anyone"
> >
> >You are absolutely right, and I think they should be ashamed of
> >themselves. But the big question is, what the future holds for the Gambia
> >if these folks, charaterise above, succeed in becoming part of an
> >administration that replaces Jammeh? It is scary.
> >
> >Lamin
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >From: [log in to unmask]
> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> >
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: Credibility/ Mr Sanneh
> >Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 15:45:54 EST
> > >
> > >Brother Abdoukarim Sanneh,
> > >
> > >I was going to post these few words of mine this morning but an
> >engagement
> > >kept me away from my computer until now, and it is interesting that
> >Jasseh
> > >Conteh seems to have taken some of the words right out of my mouth.
> > >
> > >I wanted to ask you not to waste your valuable time trying to appeal to
> > >those who demonstrate daily their lack of good judgement.
> > >
> > >Additionally, my comment is that only the simple minded can believe
> >that
> > >credibility is measured by such a short yardstick, and that it is
> >only they who
> > >mistake a refusal to engage empty chatterboxes with a limited vocabulary
> >that
> > >consists largely of profanity and disrespectful language, supplemented
> >by
> > >unmistakable dictatorial tendencies as an indication of said characters
> >having
> > >prevailed over anyone.
> > >
> > >I hope that you are having a good weekend over there in the UK.
> > >
> > >Sister Jabou Joh
> > >
> > >In a message dated 11/11/2005 7:51:33 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> > >[log in to unmask] writes:
> > >
> > >Joe and Jassey Conteh, as long serving subscribe to Gambia discussion to
> > >group on the net, I think what matters is to forget abut the past
> >different from
> > >the story about our humble
> >sister. I have a lot respect about her, Joe and
> > >Mr Conteh. We lived out side in Gambia and calling families and reading
> >about
> > >news makes us to determine that Gamboia come first. I am alway determine
> >to
> > >know that it is our bit and piece that can lead a way forward that I
> >wanted to
> > >challenge the Gambian diaspora in United Kingdom that we have to put our
> > >house in order cause 2006 is near. We all near a way forward.please come
> >me
> > >brothers in Uk for a way forward and replicate the patriotic efforts our
> >brother
> > >ub U.SA. I know we can make a diffrence.
> > >Contact
> > >Home:-01618771939
> > >
> > >Joe Sambou wrote:
> > >Hmmmmmm! How convenient. Looks like someone missed the boat all
> >together.
> > >Interestingly, it is because of your fabrications of the past, the
> >reason
> > >why we have to ask folks to substantiate their claims against the
> >innocent.
> > >You lied here that I was a snitch for Yaya and ran for cover when folks
> >ask
> > >you to substantiate it. Today, whose integrety is in question? Yours
> > >Conteh in case you forget. You have been proven to be a liar yourself
> >so, I
> > >am not surprised that you will not be interested to know whether in fact
> >Mr.
> > >Bah is framed because of what Alieu alleged. Do you think with you feet
> >up
> > >or what?
> > >
> > >Joe
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: Jassey Conteh
> > > >Reply-To: Jassey Conteh
> > > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > > >Subject: Re: The failure of Pa
> >Nderry and Last card Sey
> > > >Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 14:54:00 -0500
> > > >
> > > >Mr. Sanyang:
> > > >
> > > > A code of professional conduct is indeed a venture for its members
> > > >to consistently apply principles and standards the profession
> >dictates. Pa
> > > >Nderry M'Bye has a right to report, but he should do so with ethical
> > > >values. After reading Mr. M'Bye's recent posting, I became concerned
> >with
> > > >his integrity and objectivity. Is Mr. M'Bye doing a disservice to his
> > > >profession and the opposition?
> > > >
> > > > I searched every news outlet in the Gambia to verify Mr. M'Bye's
> > > >narration. I could not find any source that collaborated his posting,
> > > >except his own. Mr. M'Bye's
> >narration and conclusion should be evaluated
> > > >with caution. Was his posting fabricated? Talk is cheap, but one
> >should
> > > >consistently apply the principles and standards.
> > > >
> > > > As we move forward for a yahyaless Gambia, we must be willing to
> > > >disagree with fellow comrades whose messages might be deterrent to our
> > > >struggle. How could one openly threatened a dictator who has been
> >known to
> > > >use every effort in suppressing the opposition? Should we not advocate
> >for
> > > >a free and fair election thereby reaching the electorate that we
> > > >desperately need? Why is it that the presidential election is going to
> >be
> > > >held on a different date? Do you know why? Because Jammeh would use
> >every
> > > >effort with his thugs to stay in power? Should we reach an agreement
> >with
> > > >the APRC government on the rule of conduct during the election?
> >Does the
> > > >opposition have willing and concerned external parties to monitor the
> > > >elections? I believe we should address these issues before fabricating
> > > >from afar.
> > > >
> > > > I commend you for your truthfulness regardless of your political
> > > >doctirne.
> > > >
> > > >Naphiyo,
> > > >Comrade Jassey-Conteh
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: Alieu Sanyang
> > > >Sent: Nov 11, 2005 1:34 PM
> > > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > > >Subject: Re: The failure of Pa Nderry and Last card
> >Sey
> > > >
> > > >Joe,
> > > >I am not a spokes person for the Jammeh government. If you have any
> > > >questions with regards to what they believe or what I report on the
> >Bah
> > > >case, I guess you are intelligent enough to know how to fetch for
> > > >information.
> > > >I am not sure if you are lying or the Jammeh government is lying. All
> >that
> > > >I know is that my sources are right.
> > > >And again, it is your choice to believe in what you want to. I look
> >forward
> > > >to the day we as Gambians are not being blinded like you are to the
> >truth.
> > > >Did anyone prove here that what Mr. Nderry reported was true? Only
> > > >Abdulkarim Sanneh had some guts to question him. He never came back on
> >this
> > > >List to
> >even explain. What did the "good old Joe" say or do about it?
> > > >So big guy, let us all be honest to ourselves if we have to be able to
> >move
> > > >our nation further. Let us all have our differences but still be able
> >to
> > > >accept that we have different ideas and believes withou calling
> >anyone a
> > > >liar.
> > > >
> > > >Alieu Sanyang.
> > > >
> > > >Joe Sambou wrote:
> > > >Alu, fair enough, then I will just wait for Yaya's evidence against
> >NADD,
> > > >like the drawing of General Powel, of the nucs hiddin by Saddam.
> >Alieu,
> > > >have you read the charges that the government you are proud of levied
> > > >against Bah? If so, are they lying and your source is correct? If you
> > > >believe they are off
> >track, then don't you think you should help them beef
> > > >up those charges to include Last Card and exclude Bah? Looks like they
> > > >missed Last Card, totally. Hmmmm! Something tells me that this is a
> > > >phantom from both sides, for if you have this evidence, you certainly
> > > >cannot
> > > >allow an innocent person get railroaded, will you?
> > > >
> > > >Chi Jaama
> > > >
> > > >Joe
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: Alieu Sanyang
> > > > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> > > > >
> > > > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > >Subject: Re: The failure of Pa Nderry and Last card Sey
> > > > >Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 09:32:37 -0800
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >Joe,
> > > > >I am not writing to show any evidences. I wish you had the
> >integrity to
> > > >ask
> > > > >the guys who pulled the same stories against the Jammeh regime.
> > > > >You have the right to believe what you chose to. It was not written
> >for
> > > >you
> > > > >to judge either. Call it anything you want to.
> > > > >
> > > > >Alieu Sanyang
> > > > >
> > > > >Joe Sambou wrote:
> > > > >Alieu, you have also made some serious allegations against Last Card
> >and
> > > >I
> > > > >am interested in the substance of your allegations. Yaya said that
> >NADD
> > > > >gave Wade fake documents, which both you and I know to be a
> >fabrication,
> > >
> > > >and
> > > > >now you are saying that Last Card sent fake documents to the
> >Senegalese
> > > > >forging Bah's signature, so which is which? Can you present the
> >evidence
> > > > >you are refering to, to support you claims? I don't know your
> >relation
> > > >with
> > > > >Yaya, but you can surely advise him about the rules of evidence, or
> >is
> > > >this
> > > > >the same as the Diskette evidence that he waved to Gambians
> >about "Oil
> > > >and
> > > > >Circumstance"? Your charge against Last Card is very serious and
> >involves
> > > > >the life of an innocent person, that you are morally required to
> >show
> > > >your
> > > > >hand. Otherwise, I will just disregard it as "hear say".
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >Chi Jaama
> > > > >
> > > > >Joe
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: Alieu Sanyang
> > > > > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> > > > > >
> > > > > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > > >Subject: The failure of Pa Nderry and Last card Sey
> > > > > >Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 05:22:18 -0800
> > > > > >
> > > > > >The folks like Pa Nderry and Last Card Sey have seen their plot to
> > > >breed
> > > > > >blood between The Gambia and Senegal failed. Mr. Nderry, I think
> >you
> > > > >should
> > > > > >be ashamed of yourself and your family to be spreading news on
> >this
> > >
> > >List
> > > > > >that is not only inaccurate, but defamatory. You have been working
> >so
> > > > >hard
> > > > > >to disseminate news that is not true only to help your
> >asylum case.
> > > >This
> > > > >is
> > > > > >what I do not understand about we the Gambians. Anytime we have
> >our
> > > > > >interests to follow, we will go the extra mile to put our
> >interests
> > > >above
> > > > > >our national interest.
> > > > > >In your most recent lies, you said some folks have been arrested.
> >I am
> > > > >one
> > > > > >the few who rarely calls the Gambia, but to find out that there
> >was no
> > > > > >truth to what you just reported is very troubling. This
> >speaks volumes
> > > > > >about who you are and the likes of you we have all seen here.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >For Last Card Sey, it was shocking to learn that you are still in
> > > > > >possession of Gambian government documents that you are selfishly
> >using
> > > > >to
> > > > > >put a dent on the Gambia-Senegal relation. It was surprising
> >to learn
> > > > >that
> > > > > >you have sent falsely signed documents to the Senegalese
> >authorities to
> > > > > >show they were coming from Gambian authorities. What I do not
> > > >understand
> > > > >as
> > > > > >a Gambians and an individual, is what is in it for you? In fact,
> >I got
> > > > >from
> > > >
> > > >reliable sources that the recent Samba Bah case has to do with what
> >you
> > > > > >false signed as Mr. Bah. Having Gambian government staples and
> > > > >misrepresent
> > > > > >them is a crime. I don't know why the Gambian government is not
> > > >pursuing
> > > > > >that from this end. You have been successfully using a lot of
> >folks you
> > > > > >come in contact with for your selfish interests against the Jammeh
> > > > >regime.
> > > > > >My dear friends, there is nothing wrong with being
> >oppositions, but
> > > >there
> > > > > >is so much and everything wrong with being anti-Gambia. Some of us
> >even
> > > > > >with other citizenship identities residing out side The
> >Gambia do not
> > > >go
> > > > > >this far to promote our self interests.
> > > > > >I think what this is all about tells us what kind of people folks
> >like
> > > > >you
> > > > > >are. I thank God that you are all out of the Gambia and will not
> > > >succeed
> > > > >in
> > > > > >being part of any government forever in The Gambia. What you are
> >all
> > > > >doing
> > > > > >tell us how you will run your families and your country
> >if opportunity
> > > > >was
> > > > > >given.
> > > > > >What I will strongly suggest for some of these individuals you all
> > > > >defamed
> > > > > >and faked their signatures, is to pursue legal actions against
> >you even
> > > > >in
> > > > > >The Gambia at your absence. I think if convicted, the government
> >of the
> > > > > >Gambia and Senegal can certainly succeed in bringing you to face
> >the
> > > > >music.
> > > > > >I hope we can all live side by side and stop putting our national
> > > > >interests
> > > > > >behind our own.
> > > > > >Good luck to you all.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Alieu Sanyang.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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