NJ Man Facing Charges in Abuse of Dog
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NJ Man Facing Charges in Abuse of Dog
A Perth Amboy man has been charged with torturing a Rottweiler by sodomizing the dog in what authorities are calling a case of "horrific abuse."

The New Jersey Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals charged Jose Rodriguez on Monday in the alleged sodomy of the female Rottweiler, Click here for the rest of this story.
-- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 12:18:15 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Archtects & Their Education In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > You are reminding me that I want to go purchase a scanner. > > *Screw the scanner. I'd consider moving to the mainland if I were you.* HC, Hey... I'm not trying to spread FEAR, just want to explain why c. might have a bit of difficulty interviewing the unHamptons anti-dwelling perpsquad as to their feeling about hiring artichokes and or the relevance of the nudist-course in the deeper psyche & soul of the ex-burbs. We may not have shrimp boats, but we got lobstermen, flukers & shark hunters. ][< -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 12:41:13 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: 1421 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105206072" -------------------------------1105206072 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/8/2005 12:12:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: It is wet and dreary and having spent the morning figuring out how to move the dictionary, and quibbling here online, I'm ready for a nap. The palm trees are wafting in the breeze here. I'm about ready for a nap, too. Weather's nearly too lousy to go to The Mall. Ralph -------------------------------1105206072 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/8/2005 12:12:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>It is=20 wet and dreary and having spent the morning figuring out how to
move th= e=20 dictionary, and quibbling here online, I'm ready for a=20 nap.

The palm trees are wafting in the breeze here.  I'm about ready fo= r a=20 nap, too.
 
Weather's nearly too lousy to go to The Mall.
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1105206072-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 12:24:15 -0800 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [BULK] Re: [BP] music in life In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" And just how, might I ask, did Ms Spears, get into this Ella Fitzgerald, Rosemary Clooney crowd?? Ruth At 8:16 PM -0500 1/7/05, [log in to unmask] wrote No, no, no, Ruth. Britney Spears is trailer park trash. And NOBODY is saying you're TPT, or we'd punch 'em right in the nose. If you're a trailer park person, you're trailer park royalty in my book. Ralph -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Dummerston, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 12:28:15 -0800 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Archtects & Their Persian Depot In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Besides, you wouldn't want some sort of walls and windows that needed to be waxed like those screens, would you?? Ruth, who wouldn't know what to do with an architect if she had one. At 10:14 PM -0500 1/7/05, [log in to unmask] wrote: In a message dated 1/7/2005 9:27:01 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: So why do we require an architect of 2004 to add a bedroom to a non-architect building of 1770? c As Fitch used to say (sort of), on the level of civil liberties, you don't. There are a couple of reasons. First of all, you want it designed so that it doesn't sink into the sand or blow away in the next middling breeze. It would also be good if it's built on your lot, within setbacks, and not overhanging your neighbor's property by 2", and therefore has to be demolished. Second of all, most homeowners would probably be better off having somebody who knows more than they do who can keep a knowledgeable eye on the contractor and be sure it's built the way it was designed, and not out of cardboard and string (or Dryvit, because it's just as good as string and cardboard, but it's guaranteed). Theoretically you will get a better design job by choosing an architect who is accustomed to working with 1770's houses, and to adding to 1770's houses than you would get by having the Anderson window salesman choose the sizes (and types) of your windows (you get more light out of those nice big picture bow windows than out of crappy little divided light windows, and besides the commissions are better) , and by having the carpenter decide where to locate them. But as I said, you go ahead and screw everything up, and then come tell us all about it. Ralph -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Dummerston, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 13:13:42 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Photocols MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1dd.34832096.2f117cd6_boundary" --part1_1dd.34832096.2f117cd6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/8/05 11:20:44 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > You are reminding me that I want to go purchase a scanner. > > ][< So, is it "allowed" to post photos here, if they are embedded in the email itself, as opposed to being attached files? (I did that a few months ago and it worked.) c --part1_1dd.34832096.2f117cd6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 1/8/05 11:20:44=20= AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:

You are reminding me that I wan= t to go purchase a scanner.

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So, is it "allowed" to post photos here, if they are embedded in the email i= tself, as opposed to being attached files?  (I did that a few months ag= o and it worked.)

c --part1_1dd.34832096.2f117cd6_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 13:16:12 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: DogoMomo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_fe.a6d48f8.2f117d6c_boundary" --part1_fe.a6d48f8.2f117d6c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/8/05 12:15:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > The New Jersey Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals charged > Jose Rodriguez on Monday in the alleged sodomy of the female Rottweiler, Click > here for the rest of this story. so i guess he's not gay. the guy, i mean. --part1_fe.a6d48f8.2f117d6c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a messa= ge dated 1/8/05 12:15:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
The New Jersey Society for t= he Prevention of Cruelty to Animals charged Jose Rodriguez on Monday in the=20= alleged sodomy of the female Rottweiler, Click here for the rest of this story.=


so i guess he's not gay.  the guy, i mean.  --part1_fe.a6d48f8.2f117d6c_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 13:58:58 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Reply problem returns and the age of youthful wisdom X-To: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ralph, Its happening again. Replies to you just sort of make the monitor=20 twitch. When I restart I will have a bunch of blank emails pop up. I=20= don't like intermitent problems, they are anoying and very hard to=20 track down. I'm sure Patrick's take on my being correct about something is that it=20= was a fluck and that as soon as he has had a good night's sleep it will=20= go away. He's 18. Judging by his sisters (22 & 28), you might as=20 well plan on being generally regarded as a senial old fart for the rest=20= of your daze. (That's why I love hanging out with young preservationeers! They don't=20= generally think I'm stupid. And when they think I might be stupid,=20 they choose to attribute it to my being a colorful character. They are=20= much nicer than my children.) -jc In a message dated 1/8/2005 9:13:53 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes: My darling son is setting himself up for the same lesson.=A0 But, = anytime I suggest changes in his habits I am informed that I am a candidate for a full body condom.=A0 Yesterday, he reluctantly informed me that I had been correct about something.=A0 I'm was just so darned happy to hear that! How old is this kid, and how long do I have to wait? =A0 Ralph= -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 15:15:40 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: DogoMomo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105215340" -------------------------------1105215340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/8/2005 1:16:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: so i guess he's not gay. the guy, i mean. When I first heard about this story (upon arrival at work yesterday morning), it consisted of a man sodomizing a dog. Given the MANY possibilities that that allows for, I was curious about the gender of the dog. When it turned out that the dog was feminine in gender, some questions were answered and others, shall we say, opened. Ralph -------------------------------1105215340 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/8/2005 1:16:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #eeeeee" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2>= so i guess=20 he's not gay.  the guy, i mean. 
When I first heard about this story (upon arrival at work yesterda= y=20 morning), it consisted of a man sodomizing a dog.  Given the MANY=20 possibilities that that allows for, I was curious about the gender of the=20 dog.   When it turned out that the dog was feminine in gender, som= e=20 questions were answered and others, shall we say, opened.
 
Ralph
 -------------------------------1105215340-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 12:52:08 -0800 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Cuyler Page <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Heritage Interpretation Services Subject: Re: 1421 - Coincidence MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0021_01C4F580.DCC47CA0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C4F580.DCC47CA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > that there are many gross leaps to conclusions and twisted fits that = are > most likely coincidence, there are also many intriguing thoughts and Re. the Value and Reality of Coincidence: Gross leaps we can do without, but - - - somehow there is a real topic = here worth investigating. At least in my own life, virtually all of = the big significant events and changes of life path have been the result = of what one would have to call coincidence, those meaningful moments of = intersection and new connections that came right out of the unexpected = and unsuspecting blue, but made so much sense when they happened that = the new path direction was clear. It has happened so very often, = especially in the areas of personal relationships and historic research, = that I can not ignore it. The problem is what to do with it. = Celebration is easy and always seems appropriate, sometimes even taking = on the quality of thanks to the Creator; but occasionally, debates with = Rationalists emerge, and the documentation of the events I am speaking = of begin to make for a pretty powerful collection to consider, even for = the Rationalists. Therefore, based on personal experiences with important and documentable = life coincidences, I suggest a more willing attitude to accepting and = exploring the possibility of the coincidences mentioned by the China = discovery theory. I continue always to document and seek original = sources to verify, but think it better to also look for those moments of = powerful, almost shocking, descriptions of coincidence that led to = revelations. More often than not, history truly is stranger than = fiction! This topic seems to tie into architectural training too. As I got = older, I wondered why no one back in school ever taught or even talked = about the process of inspiration. It was always about the process of = making lists, developing the program and rationalizing the result. But = when it came to the design critiques, it was always about how much flash = was on the board, how unique the visuals were, how "creative" the = concept was, meaning "Gee, I never thought of it that way" according to = one prof. and "Good work, exactly how I would have done it." to another. = Of course all the homework of programs and lists made for a quarry for = the unconscious to draw upon, but that aspect was never mentioned by my = profs. If anything, any discussion of subconscious or unconscious work = and product was quickly dismissed as trivial. Yet, as life and = projects have progressed and proved in ever more meaningful ways, the = best work of design happens when you go sit quietly on the site and = await the magic of Inspiration about what is waiting to be built there. = Doggone, it works! Rationalists don't like the idea, but there are at = least two ways to accomplish design. I would like to see more = attention given to sharpening the intuition. Our design courses = probably did that by default, introducing us to design by giving us a = blank paper to do something with, but I think most of what was learned = was self-taught while carrying out the exercises and satisfying the = profs to get some grades, to get a job to satisfy a boss, to get some = money to satisfy a household, to........ and in the end, the importance = of intuition took a big hit due to all the rationalisms. In the spirit of discussion and not as a personal attack on the former = writer, I mention that while some people will dispense with coincidence = as meaningless and to be avoided as a waste of time, I tend to look for = coincidence as the joyous stuff that is often closer to the Truth than = many of our ever busy, often self serving, personal rationalisms about = Life, happening because of the flow of energy and time that is bigger = than what I control. Fear of change comes into the rationalist = discussion too, but ...... "That's All For Now, Folks." =20 I say, "Coincidence? Hey, lets take a closer look!" cp in bc (BC=3DBeside China) ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C4F580.DCC47CA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> that there are many gross leaps to = conclusions=20 and twisted fits that are
> most likely coincidence, there are = also many=20 intriguing thoughts and
Re. the Value and Reality of=20 Coincidence:
Gross leaps we can do without, but - - = - somehow=20 there is a real topic here worth investigating.   At least in = my own=20 life, virtually all of the big significant events and changes of = life path=20 have been the result of what one would have to call coincidence, those=20 meaningful moments of intersection and new connections that came right = out of=20 the unexpected and unsuspecting blue, but made so much sense when they = happened=20 that the new path direction was clear.   It has happened = so very=20 often, especially in the areas of personal relationships and = historic=20 research, that I can not ignore it.   The problem is what to = do with=20 it.   Celebration is easy and always seems appropriate, = sometimes even=20 taking on the quality of thanks to the Creator; but occasionally, = debates with=20 Rationalists emerge, and the documentation of the events I am speaking = of begin=20 to make for a pretty powerful collection to consider, even for the=20 Rationalists.
 
Therefore, based on personal = experiences with=20 important and documentable life coincidences, I suggest a more willing = attitude=20 to accepting and exploring the possibility of the coincidences mentioned = by the=20 China discovery theory.   I continue always to document and = seek=20 original sources to verify, but think it better to also look for those = moments=20 of powerful, almost shocking, descriptions of coincidence that led to=20 revelations.   More often than not, history truly is stranger = than=20 fiction!
 
This topic seems to tie into = architectural=20 training too.   As I got older, I wondered why no one back in = school=20 ever taught or even talked about the process of inspiration.   = It was=20 always about the process of making lists, developing the program and=20 rationalizing the result.   But when it came to the design = critiques,=20 it was always about how much flash was on the board, how unique the = visuals=20 were, how "creative" the concept was, meaning "Gee, I never thought of = it that=20 way" according to one prof. and "Good work, exactly how I would have = done it."=20 to another.   Of course all the homework of programs and lists = made=20 for a quarry for the unconscious to draw upon, but that aspect was never = mentioned by my profs.   If anything, any discussion of = subconscious=20 or unconscious work and product was quickly dismissed as = trivial.  =20 Yet, as life and projects have progressed and proved in ever more = meaningful=20 ways, the best work of design happens when you go sit quietly on the = site and=20 await the magic of Inspiration about what is waiting to be built=20 there.   Doggone, it works!   Rationalists don't = like the=20 idea, but there are at least two ways to accomplish design.   = I would=20 like to see more attention given to sharpening the = intuition.   Our=20 design courses probably did that by default, introducing us to = design by=20 giving us a blank paper to do something with, but I think most of what = was=20 learned was self-taught while carrying out the exercises and satisfying = the=20 profs to get some grades, to get a job to satisfy a boss, to get some = money to=20 satisfy a household, to........ and in the end, the importance of = intuition=20 took a big hit due to all the rationalisms.
 
In the spirit of discussion and not as = a=20 personal attack on the former writer, I mention that = while some=20 people will dispense with coincidence as meaningless and to be = avoided as a=20 waste of time, I tend to look for coincidence as the joyous = stuff that=20 is often closer to the Truth than many of our ever busy, = often self=20 serving, personal rationalisms about Life, happening because of the = flow of=20 energy and time that is bigger than what I = control.   Fear=20 of change comes into the rationalist discussion too, but=20 ...... "That's All For Now, Folks."   =
 
I say, "Coincidence?  Hey, lets = take a closer=20 look!"
 
cp in bc
(BC=3DBeside China)
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C4F580.DCC47CA0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 21:46:53 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: creighton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Archtects & Their Persian Depot MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_012B_01C4F5CB.914E23C0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_012B_01C4F5CB.914E23C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Also, we require an architect for a bedroom addition in 2004 because we = have created social contracts to protect our real estate investments = ---------- I don't agree I see zoning law filling that role. The = building code places very few limits on what you can build, just on how = you build things. Granted that cool old back stair steep and narrow is = no longer possible, but how many buildings from 1700 have survived? We = only think all the old stuff was great because only the well built and = maintained made it. All the lemons fell down. ----- the creative streaks of our neighbors -------------- also don't = agree A close look at any neighborhood pre 1850s will reveal rules that = are followed past that imposed by standard lot size and streets. = Geometric rules govern entire neighborhoods. These rules were imposed = by the builders themselfs, not government. The passing of this balance = came along with mass manufacturing (=3D higher productivity, live past = 30, masons no longer handle 2000 bricks a day ect.) It seems to me that architecture has passed from exterior view = driven to interior Now what are your 10 favorite structures? How many had architects? EiffelTower, Hell Gate Bridge,=20 I look out now on a stonehenge type ice block structure Ezra and Willa = made, I don't know which was the art a choke been wondering exactly where these postings are going as I don't see = them on the list any more creighton Original Message -----=20 From: John Callan=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [BP] Archtects & Their Persian Depot Because in 1770 we had very few architects, but we had a good supply = of builders. Builders provided most of the services we assign today to = general contractors and architects. Also, we require an architect for a = bedroom addtion in 2004 because we have created social contracts to = protect our real estate investments from the creative streaks of our = neighbors (as well as their corner-cutting). But, you must live in a = pretty fancy neighborhood if an architect is "required" for a bedroom = addition. Its my understanding that architects aren't generally required = for much of anything at the residential scale. -jc On Jan 7, 2005, at 8:26 AM, Met History wrote: In a message dated 1/7/05 9:23:08 AM Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: An architect may understand the nature of the problem and design a = solution responding to the need, and recognize a Home Depot need when = he/she sees it. So why do we require an architect of 2004 to add a bedroom to a = non-architect building of 1770? c ------=_NextPart_000_012B_01C4F5CB.914E23C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Also, we require an architect for a bedroom addition in 2004 = because we=20 have created social contracts to protect our real estate investments = ----------=20 I don't agree I see zoning law filling that role. The building code = places very=20 few limits on what you can build, just on how you build things. Granted = that=20 cool old back stair steep and narrow is no longer possible, but how many = buildings from 1700 have survived? We only think all the old stuff was = great=20 because only the well built and maintained made it. All the lemons fell=20 down.
----- the creative streaks of our=20 neighbors -------------- also don't agree A close look at any=20 neighborhood pre 1850s will reveal rules that are followed past that = imposed=20 by standard lot size and streets. Geometric rules  govern entire=20 neighborhoods. These rules were imposed by the builders themselfs, not = government. The passing of this balance came along with mass = manufacturing (=3D=20 higher productivity, live past 30, masons no longer handle 2000 bricks = a day=20 ect.)
    It seems to me that = architecture has passed from  exterior view driven to = interior
 
Now what are your 10 favorite = structures? How=20 many had architects?
    = EiffelTower, Hell=20 Gate Bridge,
 
I look out now on a stonehenge type = ice block=20 structure Ezra and Willa made, I don't know which was the art a = choke
 been wondering exactly where = these=20 postings are going as I don't see them on the list any more
  creighton
Original Message -----
From:=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">John Callan=20
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 = 9:40=20 AM
Subject: Re: [BP] Archtects = & Their=20 Persian Depot

Because in 1770 we had very few architects, but we had = a good=20 supply of builders. Builders provided most of the services we assign = today to=20 general contractors and architects. Also, we require an architect for = a=20 bedroom addtion in 2004 because we have created social contracts to = protect=20 our real estate investments from the creative streaks of our neighbors = (as=20 well as their corner-cutting). But, you must live in a pretty fancy=20 neighborhood if an architect is "required" for a bedroom addition. Its = my=20 understanding that architects aren't generally required for much of = anything=20 at the residential scale.

-jc


On Jan 7, 2005, at = 8:26 AM,=20 Met History wrote:

In a=20 message dated 1/7/05 9:23:08 AM Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes:



An=20 architect may understand the nature of the problem and design a = solution=20 responding to the need, and recognize a Home Depot need when he/she = sees it.



So=20 why do we require an architect of 2004 to add a bedroom to a = non-architect=20 building of 1770?    = c
------=_NextPart_000_012B_01C4F5CB.914E23C0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 18:50:16 -0800 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: traditional bake ovens In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" By "traditional" I assume you mean my beehive oven, not some 21st century electric oven. BTW: The house where my MIL lived had a beehive oven in the shed. Ruth At 11:14 AM -0500 1/8/05, Gabriel Orgrease wrote: >I have here on loan a very slim pamphlet on traditional bake ovens that >when I went online found I could replace, if lost, for from $60 to $200. >I'm trying not to lose it. > >][< -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Dummerston, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 19:03:58 -0800 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: tin hotels In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" We don't have a great number of mobile homes and not many are in "parks" most are single units on acreage. We have 2 on 35 acres way back in the boonies. Our son lives in one and the other we rent out. Folks are really eager to rent it as it is way out away from town and VERY quiet. We don't do tornados up here. Ruth At 10:25 AM -0500 1/8/05, [log in to unmask] wrote: In a message dated 1/8/2005 2:01:03 A.M. Central Standard Time, Leland writes: "Tin Hotels". I am proud that most counties and towns have not zoned them out. They are an essential part of the historic fabric of the green mountains. Best, Leland Whoa Whoa....Dixie holds the title for tin hotels .also for the most life is lost during a tornado by living in one; as most of my apprentices are "trailer trash" which by definition down "hair means teenagers having babies who become teenagers who have babies .... having said that remember "Trailers for sale or rent , rooms to let 0.50 cents ..... .I am restoring 3 "canned hams" one built by Curtis Wright all aluminum and a big 40 ft Spartan (alum) 1950 Royal Mansion . Once finished these will be part of a flotilla that will reside at the "School House" and make the soirees over at the Blues festivals held every month or so in the Delta so I can entertain all the swells from my hobo jungle teetering on the edge of the Mississippi. Y' all come down for the crab boil and gumbo. Py -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Dummerston, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 19:32:54 -0800 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: 1421 In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Ken, You must have one hell of a dictionary!!!!! Ruth At 12:12 PM -0500 1/8/05, Gabriel Orgrease wrote: >It is wet and dreary and having spent the morning figuring out how to >move the dictionary, and quibbling here online, I'm ready for a nap. > >][< -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Dummerston, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 19:41:09 -0800 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: 1421 In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Quit whining, we had 6" of snow Thurs and another 4 or 5 today. Ruth At 12:41 PM -0500 1/8/05, [log in to unmask] wrote: In a message dated 1/8/2005 12:12:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: It is wet and dreary and having spent the morning figuring out how to move the dictionary, and quibbling here online, I'm ready for a nap. The palm trees are wafting in the breeze here. I'm about ready for a nap, too. Weather's nearly too lousy to go to The Mall. Ralph -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Dummerston, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 19:48:15 -0800 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Photocols In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" That's certainly MY preference. I can't open attachments as a general rule. And for heaven's sake, DON'T SEND ME ON NO DAMN WILD GOOSE CHASE TO NO STINKIN' WEBSITE that I can never find. Yes, I was yellin' I HATE websites. Ruth At 1:13 PM -0500 1/8/05, Met History wrote: So, is it "allowed" to post photos here, if they are embedded in the email itself, as opposed to being attached files? (I did that a few months ago and it worked.) c -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Dummerston, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 23:47:50 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: I guess it's sort of a red state thing.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_90.54c39cd7.2f121176_boundary" --part1_90.54c39cd7.2f121176_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Went to a modern dance performance tonight at the Japan Society near the U. N. (nice Rockefeller-calm modern/Asian building, with interior water and freestanding interior stair around courtyard). Went with Mrs. Graybird. First piece was five women in bright red dresses grabbing crotches with both hands, jumping up and down, wildly. Sort of "Sonata for Two Handed Masturbation". Didn't realize women could do that, but then I never thought to ask. Funny the things that get away from you until you're too old to care. Gab & Eti were sitting in the front row, just a few feet from the Japanese crotches, but they didn't recognize me. Second piece was guy partly wrapped in rags, moving around to scratchy-loud music which sounded like giant screwdriver mixing cement in an iron pan. Come to think of it, he was sort of moving like a giant screwdriver mixing cement. Had shaved head plus blond ponytail, sort of a logical impossibility, but there you go. Can't remember the third and fourth pieces - was one of those where the women were all made up with white pancake, but then slapped each other and made clouds of dust? - but fifth piece was women sitting, humming along with bubble gum music background, watching their yellow-socked feet tap up and down. There was another one where they appeared to have bedbugs. Or vice versa. I forget where fit in the part about the woman wearing knickers stuck both her hands down her knickers and looked very, very, very happy, then pulled out a pair of shoes from self-same knickers (shoes were patent leather flats - that might have been significant). Might have been part of something else, or might have been A Separate Peace. At any rate, it was a high-concept evening. All the costumes were bright colors, which was nice. Except for the guy's rags, those were white. Just like Ruth's snow. Great dinner afterwards - I am a cod slut. christopher --part1_90.54c39cd7.2f121176_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Went to a modern dance performance tonight at the Japan Society near the U.=20= N. (nice Rockefeller-calm modern/Asian building, with interior water and fre= estanding interior stair around courtyard).  Went with Mrs. Graybird.&n= bsp;

First piece was five women in bright red dresses grabbing crotches with both= hands, jumping up and down, wildly.  Sort of "Sonata for Two Handed Ma= sturbation".  Didn't realize women could do that, but then I never thou= ght to ask.  Funny the things that get away from you until you're too o= ld to care.   Gab & Eti were sitting in the front row, just a=20= few feet from the Japanese crotches,  but they didn't recognize me.&nbs= p; 

Second piece was guy partly wrapped in rags, moving around to scratchy-loud=20= music which sounded like giant screwdriver mixing cement in an iron pan.&nbs= p;  Come to think of it, he was sort of moving like a giant screwdriver= mixing cement.  Had shaved head plus blond ponytail, sort of a logical= impossibility, but there you go. 

Can't remember the third and fourth pieces - was one of those where the wome= n were all made up with white pancake, but then slapped each other and made=20= clouds of dust? - but fifth piece was women sitting, humming along with bubb= le gum music background, watching their yellow-socked feet tap up and down.&= nbsp; There was another one where they appeared to have bedbugs.  Or vi= ce versa.

I forget where fit in the part about the woman wearing knickers stuck both h= er hands down her knickers and looked very, very, very  happy, then pul= led out a pair of shoes from self-same knickers (shoes were patent leather f= lats - that might have been significant).  Might have been part of some= thing else, or might have been A Separate Peace.

At any rate, it was a high-concept evening. All the costumes were bright col= ors, which was nice.  Except for the guy's rags, those were white. = ; Just like Ruth's snow. 

Great dinner afterwards - I am a cod slut. 

christopher   --part1_90.54c39cd7.2f121176_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 07:13:24 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Photocols In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Met History wrote: >> You are reminding me that I want to go purchase a scanner. > > So, is it "allowed" to post photos here, if they are embedded in the > email itself, as opposed to being attached files? (I did that a few > months ago and it worked.) c What is allowed is what you can get away with. If there is a citizen uproar then it becomes sticky. Though the scanner I meant was a radio scanner to listen in on the police & emergency channels, therefore to be prepared for the next unHamptons riot. It may be something to consider to monitor the environmental cops on DFI when you extend the bedroom addition into the wetlands. If you have a photo that you would like seen you can send it to me and I'll post it on PTN Live! and then you can tell folks to go look at it. ][< -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 22:49:34 -0800 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: 1421 - Coincidence In-Reply-To: <002401c4f5c3$eed54a80$142134d1@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From the looks of the buildings being built around here today I think the architects had a good chaw of that bad beef Ebenezer Scrooge talked of. These buildings all look to be the result of an architect's nightmares. Ruth At 12:52 PM -0800 1/8/05, Cuyler Page wrote: This topic seems to tie into architectural training too. As I got older, I wondered why no one back in school ever taught or even talked about the process of inspiration. It was always about the process of making lists, developing the program and rationalizing the result. But when it came to the design critiques, it was always about how much flash was on the board, how unique the visuals were, how "creative" the concept was, meaning "Gee, I never thought of it that way" according to one prof. and "Good work, exactly how I would have done it." to another. Of course all the homework of programs and lists made for a quarry for the unconscious to draw upon, but that aspect was never mentioned by my profs. If anything, any discussion of subconscious or unconscious work and product was quickly dismissed as trivial. Yet, as life and projects have progressed and proved in ever more meaningful ways, the best work of design happens when you go sit quietly on the site and await the magic of Inspiration about what is waiting to be built there. Doggone, it works! Rationalists don't like the idea, but there are at least two ways to accomplish design. I would like to see more attention given to sharpening the intuition. Our design courses probably did that by default, introducing us to design by giving us a blank paper to do something with, but I think most of what was learned was self-taught while carrying out the exercises and satisfying the profs to get some grades, to get a job to satisfy a boss, to get some money to satisfy a household, to........ and in the end, the importance of intuition took a big hit due to all the rationalisms. -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Dummerston, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 07:31:35 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: I guess it's sort of a red state thing.... In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Met History wrote: > Gab & Eti were sitting in the front row, just a few feet from the > Japanese crotches, but they didn't recognize me. Did you give them the secret signal? Don't feel bad... they did not recognize the crotches either. Did they have Altuna with them? Altuna would have smelled the crotches and then told them about it later. You have to keep in mind that Altuna is sort of a seeing-life dog. Without him Gab & Eti are dysfunctional... with him they are too, but even worse without him. A difficulty w/ avante-garde is that it no longer creates riots. Unless you are in Phelps, Vermont. You could have done your part and stood up and jiggled! Then again, we are happy that you did not. Was Ubu Roi there? ][< -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 08:01:44 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Archtects & Their Persian Depot In-Reply-To: <012e01c4f5f5$92137d80$14c2f63f@D9KP2H41> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I'm not sure who I am responding to here... but whomever disagrees with Social Contract -- Zoning law is a manifestation of the social contract. "Social contract" is a concept, not a document or a specific covenant. The social contract, as a political science term is the root of cooperative, and not always explicitly stated, human relationships in community. It is a social contract that initiates the political process, and is as simple as the general "social" acceptance of the US Constitution as a viable set of rules. In geographic/social areas where there is a much different set of perspectives than ours as to real estate investments, even to the extent of differences of approach to capital (and I do not mean revolutionary/reactionary anti-capitalism but a more basic and simple difference of world view) then there may very well not be Zoning law as a regulator to alteration of the built environment. Yet there may be a nascent awareness of a desire for architects, leastways, the specialization of those who have a talent for spatial design of structures. How do we tell a Doctor from a Shaman or either of them from a Chiropractor? Another manifestation of the social contract is professional licencing and the ethical implications that accompany licenses is greatly connected to the social contract that exists by which there are architects who remain in good standing and stay out of trouble, and there are those, albeit a minority, who do not. In this case is it NOT the architects themselves, through the AIA in particular, that determine who is or is not an architect? Though it may appear highly GRAY and ambiguous and arbitrary who gets selected to be an architect-- as per the ice castle example, though it is my understanding that you can become an architect without attending college, just as one can become a lawyer solely by passing the bar, that it is the social contract by which we, who are not architects, accept architecture as a profession separate and distinct from any other vocation. Which brings up, for me, another topic, which is that an essential quality of a Master (as in Master Builder, Master Mason, Master Buddha: as opposed to Journey or Apprentice) is in self-definition. The definition of mastery is in part defined by the example of the Master themselves. You know them, or you think that you know them, when you see them. ][< creighton wrote: > Also, we require an architect for a bedroom addition in 2004 because > we have created social contracts to protect our real estate > investments ---------- I don't agree I see zoning law filling that > role. The building code places very few limits on what you can build, > just on how you build things. Granted that cool old back stair steep > and narrow is no longer possible, but how many buildings from 1700 > have survived? We only think all the old stuff was great because only > the well built and maintained made it. All the lemons fell down. > > ----- the creative streaks of our neighbors -------------- also > don't agree A close look at any neighborhood pre 1850s will reveal > rules that are followed past that imposed by standard lot size and > streets. Geometric rules govern entire neighborhoods. These rules > were imposed by the builders themselfs, not government. The > passing of this balance came along with mass manufacturing (= > higher productivity, live past 30, masons no longer handle 2000 > bricks a day ect.) > It seems to me that architecture has passed from exterior > view driven to interior > > Now what are your 10 favorite structures? How many had architects? > EiffelTower, Hell Gate Bridge, > > I look out now on a stonehenge type ice block structure Ezra and > Willa made, I don't know which was the art a choke > been wondering exactly where these postings are going as I don't > see them on the list any more > creighton > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 08:49:40 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: 1421 - Coincidence In-Reply-To: <002401c4f5c3$eed54a80$142134d1@default> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Cuyler, Experiential education, education by following the light, enlightenment, a faith in one's reason as a tool to use in an unreasonable cosmos. A faith in the process, to follow where the coincidences lead. There are some areas in life where it is agreed to accept the zoning codes & social contract, and others where we seek to break down the barriers, inhibitions, patterns and explore what may come as it will. As recently reminded to me by a lawyer we need to be cautious that too much coincidence can also lead us into trouble that we would prefer to avoid. Jung frames coincidence in his theories of synchronicity, of which I am attracted, but I am increasingly finding a personal revulsion to the concepts of a Collective Unconsious -- particularly when used as a marketing tool -- and wonder if it is not an hallucinatory hoax. As with yourself I am a student of the I-Ching. The theory of the Collective Unconscious in part can be seen as the glue that holds coincidence, alternate realities, and UFO sitings all togher as one. (And just yesterday I read that in Ireland it is a tradition to make the tops of fence-gate posts round so that Fairies will not dance on them [obligatory histo-presto content].) My personal preference these days is towards Collective Psychosis. I believe that we are all totally mad and it is only through the invention of the social contract that we are not each and every one of us institutionalized. That I stand on a street corner in NYC, a corner that I do not ever frequent, and a friend whom I have not seen in years, who lives nowhere near the corner or even on the same continent, suddenly walks up and says hello is a coincidence, I suppose, particularly since I had a thought about them two days prior, but it is not necessarily life changing. That I spend nine months wandering around in the wilderness and within fifteen minutes of arriving home and without any prior communications my friend drives into the driveway, that is an interesting coincidence, I admit, spooky. I think to an extreme that it is a coincidence that I wake up in the morning. I continue to look for angels. You never know when you will meet one and yet you need to be prepared for the encounter. Those who discount coincidence as a viable mode of experience I think presume that they have an understanding of how it all works... and I suspect this is a very solid presumption and for them, not a coincidence. I believe that some people need rules and order more than others and in particular so that they may control their own psychosis. We have discussed ritual here, but I have not seen a discussion of sign and symbol in ritual and am curious the connection of sign & symbol on coincidence. I am reminded that when I was engaged in writing a poem about death by jumping that suddenly there were several deaths by jumping, and other suicides close in to my life -- gross leaps indeed. A friend who stopped taking photo portraits because his subjects were dying. A kid in the neighborhood that witnessed a particularly gruesome death of a playmate, and his falling into a vortex of sign & symbol, and for quite a while a downward spiral of self-destruction ending with his being detained for painting swastikas with black spray paint on the ground in the local playground. He has since gone off to a productive life in Army intelligence. It is not all coincidence, I admit, but I do feel through experience that there is a very powerful set of events that occur coinciding with ritual, sign and symbol. Which reminds me of chilly nights spent on a hill in Newfield, NY drinking beer, playing w/ binoculars, and hoping that our collective desire would be delivered as a message to the other side for a convivial visit. All the more reason for me to want a long trumpet which I believe is an architectural instrument in that it requires an attendant stone walled chamber for a good acoustic effect. I'll settle for concrete block, but not EIFS. As to the Chinese discovering America, I'd like to know if they had a reason to think that there was something to discover. ][< > Gross leaps we can do without, but - - - somehow there is a real topic > here worth investigating. -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 08:54:26 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [BULK] Re: [BP] music in life In-Reply-To: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Ruth Barton wrote: >And just how, might I ask, did Ms Spears, get into this Ella Fitzgerald, >Rosemary Clooney crowd?? Ruth > Though the same back door as Captain Beefheart? ][< -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 08:55:41 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: traditional bake ovens In-Reply-To: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Ruth Barton wrote: >By "traditional" I assume you mean my beehive oven, not some 21st century >electric oven. > > Yes... the kind made with bricks & fired with wood. >BTW: The house where my MIL lived had a beehive oven in the shed. Ruth > > Excellent! Possibly that is the source of life? ][< -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 08:59:53 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: I guess it's sort of a red state thing.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105279193" -------------------------------1105279193 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/8/2005 11:48:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Went to a modern dance performance tonight at the Japan Society near the U. N. (nice Rockefeller-calm modern/Asian building, with interior water and freestanding interior stair around courtyard). Went with Mrs. Graybird. First piece was five women in bright red dresses grabbing crotches with both hands, jumping up and down, wildly. Sort of "Sonata for Two Handed Masturbation". Didn't realize women could do that, but then I never thought to ask. Funny the things that get away from you until you're too old to care. Gab & Eti were sitting in the front row, just a few feet from the Japanese crotches, but they didn't recognize me. Second piece was guy partly wrapped in rags, moving around to scratchy-loud music which sounded like giant screwdriver mixing cement WARNING! FATAL ERROR HAS OCCURRED! IMPROPER USE OF CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY TERMINOLOGY IN AND BY MEDIA, CONTRIBUTING TO CONTINUED PUBLIC MISUNDERSTANDING! CORRECT TERM IS "CONCRETE." in an iron pan. Come to think of it, he was sort of moving like a giant screwdriver mixing cement. Had shaved head plus blond ponytail, sort of a logical impossibility, but there you go. Can't remember the third and fourth pieces - was one of those where the women were all made up with white pancake, but then slapped each other and made clouds of dust? - but fifth piece was women sitting, humming along with bubble gum music background, watching their yellow-socked feet tap up and down. There was another one where they appeared to have bedbugs. Or vice versa. I forget where fit in the part about the woman wearing knickers stuck both her hands down her knickers and looked very, very, very happy, then pulled out a pair of shoes from self-same knickers (shoes were patent leather flats - that might have been significant). Might have been part of something else, or might have been A Separate Peace. At any rate, it was a high-concept evening. All the costumes were bright colors, which was nice. Except for the guy's rags, those were white. Just like Ruth's snow. Great dinner afterwards - I am a cod slut. christopher Even with the cod (unless it's a big piece), I'd rather go to the dog show in Perth Amboy. Ralph -------------------------------1105279193 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/8/2005 11:48:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>Went to=20 a modern dance performance tonight at the Japan Society near the U. N. (ni= ce=20 Rockefeller-calm modern/Asian building, with interior water and freestandi= ng=20 interior stair around courtyard).  Went with Mrs. Graybird. =20

First piece was five women in bright red dresses grabbing crotches= =20 with both hands, jumping up and down, wildly.  Sort of "Sonata for Tw= o=20 Handed Masturbation".  Didn't realize women could do that, but then I= =20 never thought to ask.  Funny the things that get away from you until=20 you're too old to care.   Gab & Eti were sitting in the fron= t=20 row, just a few feet from the Japanese crotches,  but they didn't=20 recognize me.  

Second piece was guy partly wrapped in r= ags,=20 moving around to scratchy-loud music which sounded like giant screwdriver=20 mixing cement WARNING! FATAL ERROR HAS OCCURRED! IMPROPER USE= OF=20 CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY TERMINOLOGY IN AND BY MEDIA, CONTRIBUTING TO CONTINU= ED=20 PUBLIC MISUNDERSTANDING! CORRECT TERM IS "CONCRETE." in an i= ron=20 pan.   Come to think of it, he was sort of moving like a giant=20 screwdriver mixing cement.  Had shaved head plus blond ponytail, sort= of=20 a logical impossibility, but there you go. 

Can't remember th= e=20 third and fourth pieces - was one of those where the women were all made u= p=20 with white pancake, but then slapped each other and made clouds of dust? -= but=20 fifth piece was women sitting, humming along with bubble gum music backgro= und,=20 watching their yellow-socked feet tap up and down.  There was another= one=20 where they appeared to have bedbugs.  Or vice versa.

I forget= =20 where fit in the part about the woman wearing knickers stuck both her hand= s=20 down her knickers and looked very, very, very  happy, then pulled out= a=20 pair of shoes from self-same knickers (shoes were patent leather flats - t= hat=20 might have been significant).  Might have been part of something else= , or=20 might have been A Separate Peace.

At any rate, it was a high-conce= pt=20 evening. All the costumes were bright colors, which was nice.  Except= for=20 the guy's rags, those were white.  Just like Ruth's snow. =20

Great dinner afterwards - I am a cod slut. =20

christopher  
Even with the cod (unless it's a big piece), I'd rather go= =20 to the dog show  in Perth Amboy.
 
Ralph
 
 -------------------------------1105279193-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 09:00:19 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: 1421 In-Reply-To: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Ruth Barton wrote: >Ken, You must have one hell of a dictionary!!!!! Ruth > Ruth, Well, it is a bit large as dictionaries go, in 2 volumes, but the problem was not one of weight or size as much as figuring out what else had to be moved, and what had to be moved so that that pile could be moved in order to finally get the dictionary further away from my elbow, but not so far away that I cannot turn to it when desperate. I can reach it now just fine without falling out of the chair. Then the moving process always leads to uncovering forgotten tasks, and needing to take care of them before they are forgotten again, and in short it does take six hours to finally move the dictionary. ][< -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 09:03:04 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: 1421 - Coincidence MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105279384" -------------------------------1105279384 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/9/2005 7:16:33 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: From the looks of the buildings being built around here today I think the architects had a good chaw of that bad beef Ebenezer Scrooge talked of. These buildings all look to be the result of an architect's nightmares. Ruth Ruth, You'd be amazed at how many are the cause AND the result of our nightmares. And our nightmare clients. Ralph -------------------------------1105279384 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/9/2005 7:16:33 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>From the=20 looks of the buildings being built around here today I think the
archit= ects=20 had a good chaw of that bad beef Ebenezer Scrooge talked of.
These=20 buildings all look to be the result of an architect's=20 nightmares.
Ruth
Ruth,
 
You'd be amazed at how many are the cause AND the result of our=20 nightmares.  And our nightmare clients.
 
Ralph
 -------------------------------1105279384-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 09:04:34 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: I guess it's sort of a red state thing.... In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > Second piece was guy partly wrapped in rags, moving around to > scratchy-loud music which sounded like giant screwdriver mixing > cement *WARNING! FATAL ERROR HAS OCCURRED! IMPROPER USE OF > CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY TERMINOLOGY IN AND BY MEDIA, CONTRIBUTING TO > CONTINUED PUBLIC MISUNDERSTANDING! CORRECT TERM IS "CONCRETE." * > **Ralph, If there was no aggregate or sand but only cement and water, or even dry, then technically it could sound like a giant screwdriver mixing cement. But you also point out the relevance of having an architect on staff, leastways on BP, to point out that we should always make sure that we have the proper ingredients on hand when building. ][< -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 09:17:12 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Archtects & Their Persian Depot MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105280232" -------------------------------1105280232 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/9/2005 8:02:06 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: I'm not sure who I am responding to here... but whomever disagrees with Social Contract -- Zoning law is a manifestation of the social contract. "Social contract" is a concept, not a document or a specific covenant. The social contract, as a political science term is the root of cooperative, and not always explicitly stated, human relationships in community. It is a social contract that initiates the political process, and is as simple as the general "social" acceptance of the US Constitution as a viable set of rules. In geographic/social areas where there is a much different set of perspectives than ours as to real estate investments, even to the extent of differences of approach to capital (and I do not mean revolutionary/reactionary anti-capitalism but a more basic and simple difference of world view) then there may very well not be Zoning law as a regulator to alteration of the built environment. Yet there may be a nascent awareness of a desire for architects, leastways, the specialization of those who have a talent for spatial design of structures. How do we tell a Doctor from a Shaman or either of them from a Chiropractor? By the smell? No that's an oral from a rectal thermometer. Never mind. Another manifestation of the social contract is professional licencing and the ethical implications that accompany licenses is greatly connected to the social contract that exists by which there are architects who remain in good standing and stay out of trouble, and there are those, albeit a minority, who do not. In this case is it NOT the architects themselves, through the AIA in particular, that determine who is or is not an architect? Negatory. State licensing boards decide who gets thrown out for things like designing buildings that collapse, stealing clients' money, and sealing drawings they didn't prepare.Though it may appear highly GRAY and ambiguous and arbitrary who gets selected to be an architect It does sometimes seem that way, especially when YOU didn't pass the damn licensing exam and you know some twit (or a flock of them) who did. In any case, the people who judge the exams have very strict criteria for grading the exams. -- as per the ice castle example, though it is my understanding that you can become an architect without attending college This used to be the case, and certainly was until the 1960's or so (see Mr. Wright), but I don't believe it is any longer possible to be admitted to the exam without a degree from an accredited architectural school., just as one can become a lawyer solely by passing the bar I shall (graciously) refrain from making jokes about the bar being set lower, that it is the social contract by which we, who are not architects, accept architecture as a profession separate and distinct from any other vocation. Which brings up, for me, another topic, which is that an essential quality of a Master (as in Master Builder, Master Mason, Master Buddha: as opposed to Journey or Apprentice) is in self-definition. The definition of mastery is in part defined by the example of the Master themselves. You know them, or you think that you know them, when you see them. Sounds like pornography to me. ][< Ralph -------------------------------1105280232 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/9/2005 8:02:06 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>I'm not=20 sure who I am responding to here... but whomever disagrees with
Social=20 Contract -- Zoning law is a manifestation of the social contract.
"Soci= al=20 contract" is a concept, not a document or a specific covenant.
The soci= al=20 contract, as a political science term is the root of
cooperative, and n= ot=20 always explicitly stated, human relationships in
community. It is a soc= ial=20 contract that initiates the political process,
and is as simple as the=20 general "social" acceptance of the US
Constitution as a viable set of=20 rules. In geographic/social areas where
there is a much different set o= f=20 perspectives than ours as to real
estate investments, even to the exten= t of=20 differences of approach to
capital (and I do not mean=20 revolutionary/reactionary anti-capitalism but
a more basic and simple=20 difference of world view) then there may very
well not be Zoning law as= a=20 regulator to alteration of the built
environment. Yet there may be a=20 nascent awareness of a desire for
architects, leastways, the specializa= tion=20 of those who have a talent for
spatial design of structures. How do we=20= tell=20 a Doctor from a Shaman or
either of them from a Chiropractor? B= y=20 the smell?  No that's an oral from a rectal thermome= ter.=20 Never mind. Another manifestation of the social
contract is=20 professional licencing and the ethical implications that
accompany lice= nses=20 is greatly connected to the social contract that
exists by which there=20= are=20 architects who remain in good standing and
stay out of trouble, and the= re=20 are those, albeit a minority, who do not.
In this case is it NOT the=20 architects themselves, through the AIA in
particular, that determine wh= o is=20 or is not an architect? Negatory. State licensing boards decide wh= o=20 gets thrown out for things like designing buildings that collapse, stealin= g=20 clients' money, and sealing drawings they didn't prepare.Though i= t=20 may appear highly GRAY and ambiguous and arbitrary who gets selected to be= an=20 architect It does sometimes seem that way, especially when YOU did= n't=20 pass the damn licensing exam and you know some twit (or a flock of them) w= ho=20 did. In any case, the people who judge the exams have very strict=20 criteria for grading the exams. -- as per the ice castle example,= =20 though it is my
understanding that you can become an architect without=20 attending
college This used to be the case, and certainly=20 was until the 1960's or so (see Mr. Wright), but I don't believe it i= s=20 any longer possible to be admitted to the exam without a degree from an=20 accredited architectural school., just as one can become a lawyer= =20 solely by passing the bar I shall (graciously) refrain from=20 making jokes about the bar being set lower, that
it is the soc= ial=20 contract by which we, who are not architects, accept
architecture as a=20 profession separate and distinct from any other vocation.

Which bri= ngs=20 up, for me, another topic, which is that an essential
quality of a Mast= er=20 (as in Master Builder, Master Mason, Master Buddha:
as opposed to Journ= ey=20 or Apprentice) is in self-definition. The
definition of mastery is in p= art=20 defined by the example of the Master
themselves. You know them, or you=20 think that you know them, when you see
them. Sounds like=20 pornography to me.

][<=20 Ralph
 
-------------------------------1105280232-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 09:28:47 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BULK] Re: [BP] music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105280927" -------------------------------1105280927 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/9/2005 8:56:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: >And just how, might I ask, did Ms Spears, get into this Ella Fitzgerald, >Rosemary Clooney crowd?? Ruth > Though the same back door as Captain Beefheart? Neither one got in my back door. I may live in Jersey, but I'm no Rottweiler. And they're no Jack Kennedy. Ralph -------------------------------1105280927 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/9/2005 8:56:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>>And=20 just how, might I ask, did Ms Spears, get into this Ella=20 Fitzgerald,
>Rosemary Clooney crowd??  Ruth
>
Though t= he=20 same back door as Captain Beefheart?

Neither one got in my back door. I may live in Jersey, b= ut=20 I'm no Rottweiler.
And they're no Jack Kennedy.
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1105280927-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 09:33:37 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Archtects & Their Persian Depot In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > > In this case is it NOT the architects themselves, through the AIA > in particular, that determine who is or is not an architect? > *Negatory. State licensing boards decide who gets thrown out for > things like designing buildings that collapse, stealing clients' > money, and sealing drawings they didn't prepare.* > Correction greatly appreciated. > understanding that you can become an architect without attending > college* This used to be the case, and certainly was until the > 1960's or so (see Mr. Wright), but I don't believe it is any > longer possible to be admitted to the exam without a degree from > an accredited architectural school.* > Not too many years back, in the 90's, a former employee who had zero capability as an architect, and absolutely no training or education in the field, figured out that he could become an architect, or something to that effect, if he could get the recommendation of enough professionals to support his taking the exams... and seeing as he worked in an architect's office, and an inquiry was sent to me by the state with a questionaire which, on first take I felt it diplomatic to ignore... but the said former employee began sending me messages demanding if I had a particular problem with responding the the state inquiry. So, in response to his perstence I did respond, one of those times when I would rather not answer than to be honest. In short my response was something to the effect that of expressing that the individual was incompetent in the reading of drawings prepared by others, let alone that I had no faith in his ability to create drawings of his own. That was the last I heard of that but I presumed from it a Direct to GO route to becomming an architect, that is, if one is gifted in the way. Possibly he made it, if Henry Ford could do it then why not? I will never forget the argument that we had one day over the turning of an unadorned garage footprint 90 degrees from one drawing to another -- it suddenly transformed into two buildings, and twice as much roof area at double the cost. I assume that changing of the cardinal orientation of a structure on a set of drawings from drawing to drawing is not the usual architectural practice. He never did seem to understand why I did not trust any numbers that he gave me on take-offs. ][< -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 09:40:55 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: I guess it's sort of a red state thing.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105281655" -------------------------------1105281655 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/9/2005 9:06:00 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: If there was no aggregate or sand but only cement and water, or even dry, then technically it could sound like a giant screwdriver mixing cement. Technically, and extremely precisely, speaking, you may be correct. However, the typical reader could reasonably be expected to understand "mixing cement" to mean what we know is properly called "mixing concrete." Had this lovely Dance Marathon taken place, not in the Japan Society (which I initially mistook for the Asia Society at something like 70th/Park) or the Polish/Nazi/DiSapio consulate, but at an industrial establishment which manufactures cement, THEN I would not have objected to the term "mixing cement." But you also point out the relevance Not just "relevance," but urgency, essential importance. All that shit. of having an architect on staff, leastways on BP, to point out that we should always make sure that we have the proper ingredients on hand and in sealed containers, away from moisture! when building Or talking, or emailing about building. You're welcome. That will be 5 cents. Please give it to Lucy (and I don't mean the Margate elephant) on your way out. Ralph -------------------------------1105281655 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/9/2005 9:06:00 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>
If=20 there was no aggregate or sand but only cement and water, or even
dry,=20= then=20 technically it could sound like a giant screwdriver mixing
cement.=20 Technically, and extremely precisely, speaking, you may be correct= .=20 However, the typical reader could reasonably be expected to understan= d=20 "mixing cement" to mean what we know is properly called "mixing=20 concrete."   Had this lovely Dance Marathon taken place, not in=20= the=20 Japan Society (which I initially mistook for the Asia Society at something= =20 like 70th/Park) or the Polish/Nazi/DiSapio consulate, but at an industrial= =20 establishment which manufactures cement, THEN I would not have object= ed=20 to the term "mixing cement." But you also point out the=20 relevance Not just "relevance," but urgency, essential importance.= All=20 that shit. of having an architect on staff, leastways on BP, to p= oint=20 out that we should always make sure
that we have the proper ingredients= on=20 hand and in sealed containers, away from moisture! when=20 building Or talking, or emailing about=20 building. 
You're welcome.  That will be 5 cents. Please give it=20= to=20 Lucy (and I don't mean the Margate elephant) on your way=20 out. 
 
Ralph
 
-------------------------------1105281655-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 09:56:44 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Archtects & Their Persian Depot MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105282604" -------------------------------1105282604 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/9/2005 9:33:53 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > In this case is it NOT the architects themselves, through the AIA > in particular, that determine who is or is not an architect? > *Negatory. State licensing boards decide who gets thrown out for > things like designing buildings that collapse, stealing clients' > money, and sealing drawings they didn't prepare.* > Correction greatly appreciated. Oh, goody. > understanding that you can become an architect without attending > college* This used to be the case, and certainly was until the > 1960's or so (see Mr. Wright), but I don't believe it is any > longer possible to be admitted to the exam without a degree from > an accredited architectural school.* > Not too many years back, in the 90's, a former employee who had zero capability as an architect, and absolutely no training or education in the field, figured out that he could become an architect, or something to that effect, if he could get the recommendation of enough professionals to support his taking the exams..One wonders where he got this idea; I am quite certain that one cannot get into the exams based on reference letters. However, one MUST have reference letters from licensed design professionals (and probably in one's own discipline) in addition to passing the exam, in order to actually get the license. and seeing as he worked in an architect's office, and an inquiry was sent to me by the state with a questionaire which, on first take I felt it diplomatic to ignore... but the said former employee began sending me messages demanding if I had a particular problem with responding the the state inquiry. So, in response to his perstence I did respond, one of those times when I would rather not answer than to be honest. In short my response was something to the effect that of expressing that the individual was incompetent in the reading of drawings prepared by others, let alone that I had no faith in his ability to create drawings of his own. You did the state, and the public, a service. That was the last I heard of that but I presumed from it a Direct to GO route to becomming an architect, that is, if one is gifted in the way. Possibly he made it, if Henry Ford could do it then why not? Things were different, even for architects, when Henry Ford was working in his barn. I will never forget the argument that we had one day over the turning of an unadorned garage footprint 90 degrees from one drawing to another -- it suddenly transformed into two buildings, and twice as much roof area at double the cost. I assume that changing of the cardinal orientation of a structure on a set of drawings from drawing to drawing is not the usual architectural practice.This is exactly WHY one ordinarily doesn't change the orientation of the building from one drawing to another, WHY one puts a North arrow on drawings, and WHY it is essential, if one does change the orientation, that the north arrow gets turned, too. When the contractor gets misled by the architect's confusing drawings, somebody's gonna eat something, and the architect is likely to be taking a big bite. He never did seem to understand why I did not trust any numbers that he gave me on take-offs. Did I know this idiot? You can check the state govt website, and through it the arch'l licensing board's website, to see whether he has a license or not. ][< Ralph -------------------------------1105282604 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/9/2005 9:33:53 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000=20 size=3D2>>     In this case is it NOT the architects=20 themselves, through the AIA
>     in particular, that= =20 determine who is or is not an architect?
>     *Negat= ory.=20 State licensing boards decide who gets thrown out for
> =20    things like designing buildings that collapse, stealing=20 clients'
>     money, and sealing drawings they didn'= t=20 prepare.*
>
Correction greatly appreciated. Oh,=20 goody.

>     understanding that you can=20 become an architect without attending
>     college*=20= This=20 used to be the case, and certainly was until the
>    = ;=20 1960's or so (see Mr. Wright), but I don't believe it is any
> = =20    longer possible to be admitted to the exam without a degree=20 from
>     an accredited architectural=20 school.*
>
Not too many years back, in the 90's, a former employe= e=20 who had zero
capability as an architect, and absolutely no training or=20 education in
the field, figured out that he could become an architect,=20= or=20 something
to that effect, if he could get the recommendation of=20 enough
professionals to support his taking the exams..One wonde= rs=20 where he got this idea; I am quite certain that one cannot get i= nto=20 the exams based on reference letters.  However, one MUST have referen= ce=20 letters from licensed design professionals (and probably in one's own=20 discipline) in addition to passing the exam, in order to actually get the=20 license. and seeing as he worked in an architect's office, and an= =20 inquiry was sent to me by the state
with a questionaire which, on first= =20 take I felt it diplomatic to
ignore... but the said former employee beg= an=20 sending me messages
demanding if I had a particular problem with respon= ding=20 the the state
inquiry. So, in response to his perstence I did respond,=20= one=20 of those
times when I would rather not answer than to be honest. In sho= rt=20 my
response was something to the effect that of expressing that=20 the
individual was incompetent in the reading of drawings prepared=20 by
others, let alone that I had no faith in his ability to create=20 drawings
of his own. You did the state, and the public, a servi= ce.=20 That was the last I heard of that but I presumed from it a Direct= to=20 GO route to becomming an architect, that is, if one is gifted in the way.=20 Possibly he made it, if Henry Ford could do it then why not? Thing= s=20 were different, even for architects, when Henry Ford was working in h= is=20 barn. 
I will never forget the argument that we had one d= ay=20 over the turning of
an unadorned garage footprint 90 degrees from one=20 drawing to another --
it suddenly transformed into two buildings, and t= wice=20 as much roof area
at double the cost. I assume that changing of the=20 cardinal orientation
of a structure on a set of drawings from drawing t= o=20 drawing is not the
usual architectural practice.This is exactly= WHY=20 one ordinarily doesn't change the orientation of the building fr= om=20 one drawing to another, WHY one puts a North arrow on drawings, and W= HY=20 it is essential, if one does change the orientation, that the north a= rrow=20 gets turned, too.  When the contractor gets misled by the architect's= =20 confusing drawings, somebody's gonna eat something, and the architect is=20 likely to be taking a big bite.  He never did seem to=20 understand why I did not trust any numbers that he gave me on take-offs.=20 Did I know this idiot?  You can check the state govt website,= and=20 through it the arch'l licensing board's website, to see whether he has a=20 license or not.

][<=20 Ralph
 
-------------------------------1105282604-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 09:03:10 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Archtects & Their Persian Depot In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm likely to give one the benefit of an assumed mastery based on what I see. But, I eventually demand something more eventually. The work for one, the reputation among peers for another. The accomplishments of apprentices, students, interns, etc. close the deal. -jc On Jan 9, 2005, at 7:01 AM, Gabriel Orgrease wrote: > You know them, or you think that you know them, when you see > them. -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 10:29:16 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [BULK] Re: [BP] music in life In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > >And just how, might I ask, did Ms Spears, get into this Ella > Fitzgerald, > >Rosemary Clooney crowd?? Ruth > > > Through the same back door as Captain Beefheart? > > *Neither one got in _my_ back door. I may live in Jersey, but I'm no > Rottweiler.* > *And they're no Jack Kennedy.* Ha, so now we find out it was the Rotweiler's fault! ][< -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 10:34:21 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: I guess it's sort of a red state thing.... In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > If there was no aggregate or sand but only cement and water, or even > dry, then technically it could sound like a giant screwdriver mixing > cement. *Technically, and extremely precisely, speaking, you may > be correct. However, the typical reader* > Typical reader? c knows that we are atypical readers. Explain "cement" vs. "concrete" to your local Rotweiler! If the Dance Marathon were held in a LaFarge warehouse what would you say? You forget insisting upon MSDS. ][< -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 10:36:16 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Archtects & Their Persian Depot In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT John Callan wrote: > I'm likely to give one the benefit of an assumed mastery based on what > I see. But, I eventually demand something more eventually. The work > for one, the reputation among peers for another. The accomplishments > of apprentices, students, interns, etc. close the deal. > > -jc > > On Jan 9, 2005, at 7:01 AM, Gabriel Orgrease wrote: > >> You know them, or you think that you know them, when you see >> them. > Which state is the SHOW ME state? ][< -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 10:40:25 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Archtects & Their Persian Depot In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Ralph, > > professionals to support his taking the exams*..One wonders where > he got this idea* > I could say but it could lead me to libel. > *; I am quite certain that one cannot get into the exams based on > reference letters. However, one MUST have reference letters from > licensed design professionals (and probably in one's own discipline* > I may have been more in the candidates discipline than out of it, but certainly I am not party to the architectural discipline. You know, you need even less than a PU truck & cell phone to be a writer? > ***Did I know this idiot?* > It is likely, and we will leave it at that. ][< ** -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 10:29:23 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Archtects & Their Persian Depot In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I believe that would be Missouri. Mssrs. Clemens, Truman and James' home. But I did not witness the births and the supporting evidence is suspect. Should a Master historian or archeologist confirm this data, I will accept it for working purposes. -jc On Jan 9, 2005, at 9:36 AM, Gabriel Orgrease wrote: > John Callan wrote: > >> I'm likely to give one the benefit of an assumed mastery based on what >> I see. But, I eventually demand something more eventually. The work >> for one, the reputation among peers for another. The accomplishments >> of apprentices, students, interns, etc. close the deal. >> >> -jc >> >> On Jan 9, 2005, at 7:01 AM, Gabriel Orgrease wrote: >> >>> You know them, or you think that you know them, when you see >>> them. >> > Which state is the SHOW ME state? > > ][< > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 11:32:11 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BULK] Re: [BP] music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105288331" -------------------------------1105288331 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/9/2005 10:29:52 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Ha, so now we find out it was the Rotweiler's fault! You know how enticing those bitches can be, running around naked all the time. Why else do you think Buck Henry came up with the idea of putting underwear on dogs, anyway? Ralph -------------------------------1105288331 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/9/2005 10:29:52 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>Ha, so=20 now we find out it was the Rotweiler's fault!
You know how enticing those bitches can be,  running around naked=20= all=20 the time.
 
Why else do you think Buck Henry came up with the idea of putting under= wear=20 on dogs, anyway?
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1105288331-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 11:36:26 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: I guess it's sort of a red state thing.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105288586" -------------------------------1105288586 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/9/2005 10:35:21 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Typical reader? c knows that we are atypical readers. Yeah, well, typical readers can barely read, anyway, much less learned treatises on the art of dance with misleading asides from those who should know better. Explain "cement" vs. "concrete" to your local Rotweiler! I've got other activities in mind for things to do with my local (and besides, Perth Amboy is a different county) Rotweiler. If the Dance Marathon were held in a LaFarge warehouse what would you say? What would I say? "Bring Your Own Breathing apparatus" Ralph -------------------------------1105288586 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/9/2005 10:35:21 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>Typical=20 reader? c knows that we are atypical readers. Yeah, well, typical=20 readers can barely read, anyway, much less learned treatises on the art of= =20 dance with misleading asides from those who should know=20 better.
Explain "cement" vs. "concrete" to your local Rotweile= r!=20 I've got other activities in mind for things to do with my local (= and=20 besides, Perth Amboy is a different county) Rotweiler.
If the=20 Dance Marathon were held in a LaFarge warehouse what would you say?=20 What would I say? "Bring Your Own Breathing=20 apparatus"
 
Ralph
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-------------------------------1105288586-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 11:43:07 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Archtects & Their Persian Depot MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105288987" -------------------------------1105288987 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/9/2005 10:40:41 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > > professionals to support his taking the exams*..One wonders where > he got this idea* > I could say but it could lead me to libel. Aw, shucks. > *; I am quite certain that one cannot get into the exams based on > reference letters. However, one MUST have reference letters from > licensed design professionals (and probably in one's own discipline* > I may have been more in the candidates discipline than out of it, but certainly I am not party to the architectural discipline. Sounds like you kept this jerk from becoming eligible to becoming subject to professional discipline, which was a public good. You know, you need even less than a PU truck & cell phone to be a writer? I had a feeling. I heard you don't even need a pencil and a piece of paper anymore. Kinda like architecture, now that you mention it. > ***Did I know this idiot?* > It is likely, and we will leave it at that. Awww, c'mon. You can tell me back-channel (but not back door....that's for Jerseymen and Rottweilers). Ralph -------------------------------1105288987 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/9/2005 10:40:41 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000=20 size=3D2>>
>     professionals to support his taki= ng the=20 exams*..One wonders where
>     he got this=20 idea*
>
I could say but it could lead me to libel. Aw,=20 shucks.

>     *; I am quite certain tha= t=20 one cannot get into the exams based on
>     referenc= e=20 letters.  However, one MUST have reference letters from
> = =20    licensed design professionals (and probably in one's own=20 discipline*
>
I may have been more in the candidates discipline t= han=20 out of it, but
certainly I am not party to the architectural discipline= .=20 Sounds like you kept this jerk from becoming eligible to becoming=20 subject to professional discipline, which was a public good. You=20 know, you need even less than a PU truck & cell phone to be a writer?=20 I had a feeling.  I heard you don't even need a pencil and a=20 piece of paper anymore.  Kinda like architecture, now that you mentio= n=20 it.

>     ***Did I know this=20 idiot?*
>
It is likely, and we will leave it at that. =20 Awww, c'mon. You can tell me back-channel (but not back door....th= at's=20 for Jerseymen and Rottweilers).
Ralph
-------------------------------1105288987-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 09:08:36 -0800 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: I guess it's sort of a red state thing.... In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Glad I stayed to home and watched my nice white snow while knitting and reading e-mail. Yes, I can do all of those simultaneously. Ruth At 11:47 PM -0500 1/8/05, Met History wrote: Went to a modern dance performance tonight at the Japan Society near the U. N. (nice Rockefeller-calm modern/Asian building, with interior water and freestanding interior stair around courtyard). Went with Mrs. Graybird. First piece was five women in bright red dresses grabbing crotches with both hands, jumping up and down, wildly. Sort of "Sonata for Two Handed Masturbation". Didn't realize women could do that, but then I never thought to ask. Funny the things that get away from you until you're too old to care. Gab & Eti were sitting in the front row, just a few feet from the Japanese crotches, but they didn't recognize me. Second piece was guy partly wrapped in rags, moving around to scratchy-loud music which sounded like giant screwdriver mixing cement in an iron pan. Come to think of it, he was sort of moving like a giant screwdriver mixing cement. Had shaved head plus blond ponytail, sort of a logical impossibility, but there you go. Can't remember the third and fourth pieces - was one of those where the women were all made up with white pancake, but then slapped each other and made clouds of dust? - but fifth piece was women sitting, humming along with bubble gum music background, watching their yellow-socked feet tap up and down. There was another one where they appeared to have bedbugs. Or vice versa. I forget where fit in the part about the woman wearing knickers stuck both her hands down her knickers and looked very, very, very happy, then pulled out a pair of shoes from self-same knickers (shoes were patent leather flats - that might have been significant). Might have been part of something else, or might have been A Separate Peace. At any rate, it was a high-concept evening. All the costumes were bright colors, which was nice. Except for the guy's rags, those were white. Just like Ruth's snow. Great dinner afterwards - I am a cod slut. christopher -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Dummerston, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 12:49:30 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: I guess it's sort of a red state thing.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_ae.69576d7b.2f12c8aa_boundary" --part1_ae.69576d7b.2f12c8aa_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/9/05 11:56:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Glad I stayed to home and watched my nice white snow while knitting and > reading e-mail. Yes, I can do all of those simultaneously. Ruth all of what simultaneously? sincerely, Henry Prurient --part1_ae.69576d7b.2f12c8aa_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 1/9/05 11:56:14=20= AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:

Glad I stayed to home and watch= ed my nice white snow while knitting and
reading e-mail.  Yes, I can do all of those simultaneously.  Ruth<= /BLOCKQUOTE>

all of what simultaneously?   sincerely, Henry Prurient --part1_ae.69576d7b.2f12c8aa_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 18:24:54 -0500 Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: ddiaz <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: 1421 In-Reply-To: <03d101c4f58e$765464e0$6401a8c0@Leland> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------000802020103060902050201" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000802020103060902050201 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit think he was on fresh air @ npr- or maybe it was something like that @ pacifica, sounded like "Chariots of the gods" all over again-- discovery in my book is more than being the first to plant your flag- the proof is in doing something with it... So in my book the Basques were the first non- mastodon following discovers of North America eve if they kept it a trade secret Leland Torrence wrote: >Has anyone read Menzies book "1421 The Year China Discovered America"? >I could not find a review available in NY nor London times and would >like to read some critical responses. >Dim Whan, >Leland > >-- >To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the >uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > > > --------------000802020103060902050201 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit think he was on fresh air @ npr-
or maybe it was something like that @ pacifica, sounded like
"Chariots of the gods" all over again--

discovery in my book is more than being the first to plant your flag-
the proof is in doing something with it...

So in my book the Basques were the first non- mastodon following discovers of North America eve if they kept it a trade secret

Leland Torrence wrote: 
Has anyone read Menzies book "1421 The Year China Discovered America"?
I could not find a review available in NY nor London times and would
like to read some critical responses.
Dim Whan,
Leland

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--------------000802020103060902050201-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 18:26:05 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: further on the tannenbaum... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_14.3c5b0539.2f13178d_boundary" --part1_14.3c5b0539.2f13178d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ...rate of absorption of water decreased dramatically after one week. I don't think it's even been taking water since New Year's. So there. yrs 2-Handed --part1_14.3c5b0539.2f13178d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ...rate of absorption of water decr= eased dramatically after one week.  I don't think it's even been taking= water since New Year's.   So there.  

yrs   2-Handed --part1_14.3c5b0539.2f13178d_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 12:16:36 -0800 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: moving the dictionary In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" AhHa, now I get it!!!! You have "but first" syndrome. I need to do this, "but first" I need to do that. I have the same pathology, it's taking me WEEKS to clear off the table in the computer room. I may NEVER get it done. Ruth At 9:00 AM -0500 1/9/05, Gabriel Orgrease wrote: >Ruth, > >Well, it is a bit large as dictionaries go, in 2 volumes, but the >problem was not one of weight or size as much as figuring out what else >had to be moved, and what had to be moved so that that pile could be >moved in order to finally get the dictionary further away from my elbow, >but not so far away that I cannot turn to it when desperate. I can reach >it now just fine without falling out of the chair. Then the moving >process always leads to uncovering forgotten tasks, and needing to take >care of them before they are forgotten again, and in short it does take >six hours to finally move the dictionary. > >][< -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Dummerston, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 14:34:48 -0800 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: traditional bake ovens In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Ken, I think you are a bit confused. The oven is the source of BREAD, bread is the STAFF of LIFE!!! Ruth At 8:55 AM -0500 1/9/05, Gabriel Orgrease wrote: >Ruth Barton wrote: > >>By "traditional" I assume you mean my beehive oven, not some 21st century >>electric oven. >> >> >Yes... the kind made with bricks & fired with wood. > >>BTW: The house where my MIL lived had a beehive oven in the shed. Ruth >> >> >Excellent! Possibly that is the source of life? > >][< -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Dummerston, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 21:39:41 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: further on the tannenbaum... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105324781" -------------------------------1105324781 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Park Slope village idiot tree, with help of copper sulfate in the water still sucking until defenestration ceremony today (easier than carrying down the stairs - scotch is served to the neighbors who watch from the sidewalk). VI -------------------------------1105324781 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Park Slope village idiot tree, with help of copper sulfate in the water= =20 still sucking until defenestration ceremony today (easier than carrying down= the=20 stairs - scotch is served to the neighbors who watch from the sidewalk).
 
VI
 -------------------------------1105324781-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 21:40:55 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Dan Becker <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Reply issues In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit At 9:18 AM -0500 1/7/05, Pamela S. Follett wrote: > > upgrade have a tendency > to upgrade shared components so I was figuring on either a change in > options or maybe a new version of a dll wass waiting for you to reboot. - > Pam Except that John's on a Mac platform and doesn't use dll's. D. -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 20:01:12 -0800 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: I guess it's sort of a red state thing.... In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Watch it snow, knit and read e-mail, of course. What did you think, that I played music, danced and scratched my crotch while wearing red clothes? Ruth At 12:49 PM -0500 1/9/05, Met History wrote: In a message dated 1/9/05 11:56:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Glad I stayed to home and watched my nice white snow while knitting and reading e-mail. Yes, I can do all of those simultaneously. Ruth all of what simultaneously? sincerely, Henry Prurient -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Dummerston, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 22:07:22 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: The Vineland map MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105326442" -------------------------------1105326442 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Leland writes about the Vineland Map ...having just seen National Treasure (Nicholas Gage Jon Voight ) this movie must have National Parks on code Blue and full alert that every Al Quiada wanna -be not to mention glue sniffers will be busting historic stones in Trinity Church looking for the lost Templar treasure .... Now you what to throw in the Vineland Map ?....didn't anybody watch the old Abbot and Costello movies about maps when they were a kid ? .....Speaking of Kidd the movie went into the Catacombs of Trinity (been there done that ) but they failed to go upstairs ......to the inner Sanctum , The little room with the 12 chairs ( which yours truly restored the floor) There in the light of the quatrefoil sits Kidds chair (as in Captain)....seems Kidds gift to Trinity got him a chair for life .....(missing treasure indeed ! ) Back to the Vineland Map ( isn't it at Yale?) which makes it suspect in the first place , Wasn't it found on or abouts the 1000 yr anniversary of Eric the Red (not a 60's radical) sometime in the 50's. OR....just about the time the Piltdown man (missing.link ho mid) surfaced in Britain and then there was the discovery of a Viking Boat off New Jersey ...(Famous loss to Giants ? ... in 67 play offs...? )...no the last time I heard of the Vineland map Nantucket and Martha 's VINEYARD were claiming it as their own ...so you can now go to Edgartown and stay in Eric the Reds B&B and play goofy golf at Nantucket's very own Vikings Put -Put..... as John Houston sr.so eloquently put it in Treasure of the Sierra Madre , "as long as there are suckers there will always be Maps... -------------------------------1105326442 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Leland writes about the Vineland Map ...having just seen National Treas= ure=20 (Nicholas Gage  Jon Voight ) this movie must have National  P= arks=20 on  code Blue and full alert that every Al Quiada  wanna=20 -be  not to mention glue sniffers will be busting historic stones=20= in=20 Trinity Church looking for the lost Templar treasure ....
 
Now you what to throw in the Vineland Map ?....didn't anybody  wat= ch=20 the old Abbot and Costello movies  about maps when they were a kid=20 ? .....Speaking of Kidd  the movie went into the Catacombs of Trin= ity=20 (been there done that ) but they failed to go upstairs ......to the inner=20 Sanctum  , The little room with the 12 chairs ( which yours truly resto= red=20 the floor) There in the light of the quatrefoil sits Kidds chair (as in=20 Captain)....seems Kidds gift to Trinity got him a chair for life .....(missi= ng=20 treasure indeed ! )
 
Back to the Vineland Map ( isn't it at Yale?) which makes it suspe= ct=20 in the first place , Wasn't it found on or abouts  the 1000 yr =20 anniversary   of Eric the Red (not a 60's radical) sometime in the= =20 50's. OR....just about the time the Piltdown man (missing.link ho mid) surfa= ced=20 in Britain  and then  there was the  discovery of a = ;=20 Viking Boat off New Jersey ...(Famous loss to Giants ? ... in 67 play=20 offs...?
)...no the last time I heard of the Vineland map Nantucket and Martha=20 's  VINEYARD   were claiming it as their own ...so you can no= w go=20 to Edgartown and stay in Eric the Reds B&B and play goofy golf at=20 Nantucket's very own Vikings  Put -Put.....
as John  Houston sr.so eloquently put it  in Treasure of the=20 Sierra Madre ,
 
"as long as there are suckers there will always be Maps...
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 -------------------------------1105326442-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 22:54:46 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: further on the tannenbaum... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105329286" -------------------------------1105329286 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/9/2005 9:40:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Park Slope village idiot tree, with help of copper sulfate in the water still sucking until defenestration ceremony today (easier than carrying down the stairs - scotch and sidewalk bridge, one hopes is served to the neighbors who watch from the sidewalk). -------------------------------1105329286 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/9/2005 9:40:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>
Park Slope village idiot tree, with help of copper sulfate in the wat= er=20 still sucking until defenestration ceremony today (easier than carrying do= wn=20 the stairs - scotch and sidewalk bridge, one hopes is ser= ved=20 to the neighbors who watch from the sidewalk).
<= /DIV>
 
 -------------------------------1105329286-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 22:56:35 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: I guess it's sort of a red state thing.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105329395" -------------------------------1105329395 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/9/2005 10:01:45 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Watch it snow, knit and read e-mail, of course. What did you think, that I played music, danced and scratched my crotch while wearing red clothes? Ruth Red clothes? The rest of us wear no clothes while reading email. Ralph -------------------------------1105329395 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/9/2005 10:01:45 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>Watch it=20 snow, knit and read e-mail, of course.  What did you think, that=20 I
played music, danced and scratched my crotch while wearing red=20 clothes?
Ruth
Red clothes?  The rest of us wear no clothes while reading= =20 email.
 
Ralph
 -------------------------------1105329395-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 22:58:45 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: The Vineland map MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105329525" -------------------------------1105329525 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/9/2005 10:07:41 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: "as long as there are suckers there will always be Maps... So there'll be maps for awhile, huh? Guess Pyrate ought to know. Ralph -------------------------------1105329525 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/9/2005 10:07:41 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>"as long=20 as there are suckers there will always be Maps...
So  there'll be maps for awhile, huh? Guess Pyrate ought to=20 know.
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1105329525-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 22:08:09 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Reply issues In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Am I missing some wonderful computer experience here? Like before I had F-Keys? -jc On Jan 9, 2005, at 8:40 PM, Dan Becker wrote: > At 9:18 AM -0500 1/7/05, Pamela S. Follett wrote: >> >> upgrade have a tendency >> to upgrade shared components so I was figuring on either a change in >> options or maybe a new version of a dll wass waiting for you to >> reboot. - >> Pam > > Except that John's on a Mac platform and doesn't use dll's. > > D. > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 22:09:11 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: I guess it's sort of a red state thing.... In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That's how I always pictured you, Ruth. -jc On Jan 9, 2005, at 10:01 PM, Ruth Barton wrote: > Watch it snow, knit and read e-mail, of course. What did you think, > that I > played music, danced and scratched my crotch while wearing red clothes? > Ruth > > > > > > At 12:49 PM -0500 1/9/05, Met History wrote: > In a message dated 1/9/05 11:56:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, > [log in to unmask] writes: > > Glad I stayed to home and watched my nice white snow while knitting and > reading e-mail. Yes, I can do all of those simultaneously. Ruth > > > > all of what simultaneously? sincerely, Henry Prurient > > -- > Ruth Barton > [log in to unmask] > Dummerston, VT > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 23:11:11 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Reply issues MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105330271" -------------------------------1105330271 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/9/2005 11:08:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Am I missing some wonderful computer experience here? Like before I had F-Keys? If your computer works, who cares? Ralph -------------------------------1105330271 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/9/2005 11:08:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>Am I=20 missing some wonderful computer experience here?  Like before I
ha= d=20 F-Keys?
If your computer works, who cares?
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1105330271-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 23:11:48 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: I guess it's sort of a red state thing.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105330308" -------------------------------1105330308 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/9/2005 11:09:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: That's how I always pictured you, Ruth. -jc Glad you said that, and not me. Ralph -------------------------------1105330308 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/9/2005 11:09:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>That's=20 how I always pictured you, Ruth.

-jc
Glad you said that, and not me.
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1105330308-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 07:45:42 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: traditional bake ovens In-Reply-To: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Ruth, Only slightly confused re: your family tree as in MIL is not FIL. May we assume that since FIL did not know where his children came from that he COULD have assumed that they came from a beehive bake oven? ][< -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 07:46:25 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: I guess it's sort of a red state thing.... In-Reply-To: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Ruth Barton wrote: >Watch it snow, knit and read e-mail, of course. What did you think, that I >played music, danced and scratched my crotch while wearing red clothes? > Mrs. Santa Claus? -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 09:02:26 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Becker, Dan" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Reply issues MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Only if you like virii.... D. > -----Original Message----- > From: John Callan [mailto:[log in to unmask]]=20 > Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 11:08 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [BP] Reply issues >=20 >=20 > Am I missing some wonderful computer experience here? Like=20 > before I had F-Keys? >=20 > -jc >=20 > On Jan 9, 2005, at 8:40 PM, Dan Becker wrote: >=20 > > At 9:18 AM -0500 1/7/05, Pamela S. Follett wrote: > >> > >> upgrade have a tendency > >> to upgrade shared components so I was figuring on either a=20 > change in=20 > >> options or maybe a new version of a dll wass waiting for you to=20 > >> reboot. - Pam > > > > Except that John's on a Mac platform and doesn't use dll's. > > > > D. > > > > -- > > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the=20 > > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to:=20 > > > > >=20 > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and=20 > the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > a-pinheads.html> >=20 -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 08:26:38 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Reply issues In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Now Dan, don't be like that. MS will graciously give you a free virus protection program shortly. -jc On Jan 10, 2005, at 8:02 AM, Becker, Dan wrote: > Only if you like virii.... > > D. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: John Callan [mailto:[log in to unmask]] >> Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 11:08 PM >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: Re: [BP] Reply issues >> >> >> Am I missing some wonderful computer experience here? Like >> before I had F-Keys? >> >> -jc >> >> On Jan 9, 2005, at 8:40 PM, Dan Becker wrote: >> >>> At 9:18 AM -0500 1/7/05, Pamela S. Follett wrote: >>>> >>>> upgrade have a tendency >>>> to upgrade shared components so I was figuring on either a >> change in >>>> options or maybe a new version of a dll wass waiting for you to >>>> reboot. - Pam >>> >>> Except that John's on a Mac platform and doesn't use dll's. >>> >>> D. >>> >>> -- >>> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the >>> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: >>> >>> >> >> -- >> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and >> the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > a-pinheads.html> >> > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 10:38:27 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Pols Behind the Curtain MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Bush just now live on TV called the upcomming election in Iraq an erection. ][< -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:04:54 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Pols Behind the Curtain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What, is he turning Chinese? No, that's Japanese, isn't it? - Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gabriel Orgrease" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 10:38 Subject: [BP] Pols Behind the Curtain > Bush just now live on TV called the upcomming election in Iraq an erection. > > ][< > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:05:46 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Bruce Marcham <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Pols Behind the Curtain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Of course it is. It is an erection of democracy! You know, like "pitching a tent" that all the people of the world can = get under in democratic freedom. -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Gabriel Orgrease Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 10:38 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [BP] Pols Behind the Curtain Bush just now live on TV called the upcomming election in Iraq an = erection. ][< -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:39:30 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: further on the tannenbaum... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105375169" -------------------------------1105375169 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/9/2005 10:55:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: and sidewalk bridge, one hopes No, no, no Ralphie Boy - part of the ceremony is seeing how far the tree can be flung. With a small front yard, it generally doesn't make it to the sidewalk... VI -------------------------------1105375169 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/9/2005 10:55:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000=20 size=3D2>and sidewalk bridge, one hopes=20
No, no, no Ralphie Boy - part of the ceremony is seeing how far the tre= e=20 can be flung. With a small front yard, it generally doesn't make it to the=20 sidewalk...
 
VI
-------------------------------1105375169-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:56:15 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Pols Behind the Curtain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105376175" -------------------------------1105376175 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/10/1492, [log in to unmask] writes: Bush just now live on TV called the upcomming election in Iraq an erection. ][< so if it's still upcoming, that means no one has gotten screwed yet? c -------------------------------1105376175 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/10/1492, [log in to unmask] writes:
Bush just now live on TV called the upcomming=20= election in Iraq an erection.  ][<
so if it's still upcoming, that means no= one has gotten screwed yet?  c
-------------------------------1105376175-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:55:48 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Hammarberg, Eric" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Pols Behind the Curtain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C4F735.3BCB19B0" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4F735.3BCB19B0 Content-Type: text/plain Well they may have started, just not finished yet. Eric Hammarberg Director of Preservation Senior Associate Thornton-Tomasetti Group LZA Technology Division 641 Avenue of the Americas New York, NY 10011 Telephone: 917.661.8160 Fax: 917.661.8161 Mobile: 917.439.3537 email: [log in to unmask] _____ From: Met History [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 11:56 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BP] Pols Behind the Curtain In a message dated 1/10/1492, [log in to unmask] writes: Bush just now live on TV called the upcomming election in Iraq an erection. ][< so if it's still upcoming, that means no one has gotten screwed yet? c <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> The information in this email and any attachments may contain confidential information that is intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s). This message or any part thereof must not be disclosed, copied, distributed or retained by any person without authorization from the addressee. If you are not the intended addressee, please notify the sender immediately, and delete this message. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4F735.3BCB19B0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Well they may have started, = just not finished yet.

 <= /p>

Eric Hammarberg
Director of Preservation
Senior Associate
Thornton-Tomasetti Group
LZA Technology Division
641 Avenue of the Americas
New York, = NY  10011
Telephone: 917.661.8160
Fax: 917.661.8161
Mobile: 917.439.3537
email: [log in to unmask]=

From: Met = History [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Monday, January = 10, 2005 11:56 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [BP] Pols = Behind the Curtain

 

In a message dated 1/10/1492, [log in to unmask] = writes:

Bush just now live on TV called the upcomming = election in Iraq an erection.  ][<

so if it's still upcoming, that means no one has gotten screwed yet?  c


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------_=_NextPart_001_01C4F735.3BCB19B0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:10:09 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Pols Behind the Curtain In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Did he smile? Or maybe it is hard work. -jc On Jan 10, 2005, at 9:38 AM, Gabriel Orgrease wrote: > Bush just now live on TV called the upcomming election in Iraq an > erection. > > ][< > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:11:48 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Pols Behind the Curtain In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-20-371972855 --Apple-Mail-20-371972855 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Upcuming as in vertical. Apperently he's the only one engaged. -jc On Jan 10, 2005, at 10:56 AM, Met History wrote: > In a message dated 1/10/1492, [log in to unmask] writes: > Bush just now live on TV called the upcomming election in Iraq an=20 > erection.=A0 ][< > so if it's still upcoming, that means no one has gotten screwed yet?=A0 = c --Apple-Mail-20-371972855 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Upcuming as in vertical. Apperently he's the only one engaged. -jc On Jan 10, 2005, at 10:56 AM, Met History wrote: ArialIn a message dated 1/10/1492, [log in to unmask] writes: ArialBush just now live on TV called the upcomming election in Iraq an erection.=A0 = ][<< so if it's still upcoming, that means no one has gotten screwed yet?=A0 c = --Apple-Mail-20-371972855-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:56:18 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: inventor of the Bundt pan MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00EF_01C4F71C.28927B90" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00EF_01C4F71C.28927B90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Leave it to you Bruce to find this article. so, did anyone attend the = funeral service, like the Pillsbury Dough Boy? - Pam ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bruce Marcham=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 10:03 Subject: Re: [BP] inventor of the Bundt pan Or http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/5171410.html Last update: January 5, 2005 at 11:25 PM Bundt pan inventor H. David Dalquist dies=20 In addition to his son David, survivors include his wife, Dorothy = Margerite Staugaard Dalquist; another son, Jeffrey, of Medina; daughters = Corrine Lynch, of Eden Prairie, and Susan Brust, of Dellwood, and 12 = grandchildren. Services will be held at 2 p.m. Friday at Normandale Lutheran Church, = 6100 Normandale Rd., Edina. Visitation is from 4 to 8 p.m. today at = Washburn-McReavy Eden Prairie Chapel, 7625 Mitchel Rd. Trudi Hahn is at [log in to unmask] -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot = [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Met = History Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 8:25 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BP] inventor of the Bundt pan In a message dated 1/6/2005 8:11:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: Did he have a name or was he just Mr Bundt? Was he German? Ruth go to www.nytimes.com search c ------=_NextPart_000_00EF_01C4F71C.28927B90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Leave it to you Bruce to find this article.  = so, did=20 anyone attend the funeral service, like the Pillsbury Dough = Boy?
 
- Pam
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 [log in to unmask] href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Bruce = Marcham=20
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005=20 10:03
Subject: Re: [BP] inventor of = the Bundt=20 pan

Or http://www.s= tartribune.com/stories/462/5171410.html
 
Last update: January 5, 2005 at 11:25 PM

Bundt pan inventor H. David Dalquist dies

In addition to his son David, survivors include = his wife,=20 Dorothy Margerite Staugaard Dalquist; another son, Jeffrey, of Medina; = daughters Corrine Lynch, of Eden Prairie, and Susan Brust, of = Dellwood, and 12=20 grandchildren.

Services will be held at 2 p.m. Friday at Normandale Lutheran = Church, 6100=20 Normandale Rd., Edina. Visitation is from 4 to 8 p.m. today at=20 Washburn-McReavy Eden Prairie Chapel, 7625 Mitchel Rd.

Trudi Hahn is at [log in to unmask].<= /P>

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From: Pre-patinated = plastic=20 gumby block w/ coin slot=20 [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of = Met=20 History
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 8:25 = PM
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Subject: Re: = [BP]=20 inventor of the Bundt pan

In a message dated 1/6/2005 8:11:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
Did he have a name or was he just Mr Bundt?  Was = he=20 German?  Ruth
go to www.nytimes.com  search c=20
------=_NextPart_000_00EF_01C4F71C.28927B90-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:42:54 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: I guess it's sort of a red state thing.... In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001C_01C4F711.E7A54810" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C4F711.E7A54810 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I knew I was doing this wrong. -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of [log in to unmask] Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 9:57 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BP] I guess it's sort of a red state thing.... In a message dated 1/9/2005 10:01:45 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Watch it snow, knit and read e-mail, of course. What did you think, that I played music, danced and scratched my crotch while wearing red clothes? Ruth Red clothes? The rest of us wear no clothes while reading email. Ralph ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C4F711.E7A54810 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I knew I was doing this = wrong.
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From: Pre-patinated = plastic=20 gumby block w/ coin slot=20 [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of=20 [log in to unmask]
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 9:57=20 PM
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In a message dated 1/9/2005 10:01:45 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
Watch it snow, = knit and=20 read e-mail, of course.  What did you think, that I
played = music,=20 danced and scratched my crotch while wearing red=20 clothes?
Ruth
Red clothes?  The rest of us wear no clothes while = reading=20 email.
 
Ralph
------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C4F711.E7A54810-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:50:00 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: inventor of the Bundt pan In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-21-374264836 --Apple-Mail-21-374264836 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I'm amazed at the interest you guys in the big city have for things out=20= here in the heartland. This was on the local news last week. There=20 was sort of a little biographical piece. Dalquist was compared=20 favorably to other Minnesota inventors of useful things, like post-it=20 notes and heart valves. These are nice people. -jc On Jan 10, 2005, at 12:56 PM, Pamela S. Follett wrote: > Leave it to you Bruce to find this article.=A0 so, did anyone attend = the=20 > funeral service, like the Pillsbury Dough Boy? > =A0 > - Pam > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bruce Marcham > To: [log in to unmask] > Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 10:03 > Subject: Re: [BP] inventor of the Bundt pan > > Or http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/5171410.html > =A0 > > Last update: January 5, 2005 at 11:25 PM > > Bundt pan inventor H. David Dalquist dies > In addition to his son David, survivors include his wife, Dorothy=20 > Margerite Staugaard Dalquist; another son, Jeffrey, of Medina;=20 > daughters Corrine Lynch, of Eden Prairie, and Susan Brust, of=20 > Dellwood, and 12 grandchildren. > > Services will be held at 2 p.m. Friday at Normandale Lutheran Church,=20= > 6100 Normandale Rd., Edina. Visitation is from 4 to 8 p.m. today at=20 > Washburn-McReavy Eden Prairie Chapel, 7625 Mitchel Rd. > > Trudi Hahn is at [log in to unmask] > -----Original Message----- > From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot=20 > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Met=20 > History > Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 8:25 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [BP] inventor of the Bundt pan > > In a message dated 1/6/2005 8:11:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,=20 > [log in to unmask] writes: > Did he have a name or was he just Mr Bundt?=A0 Was he German?=A0 Ruth > go to www.nytimes.com=A0 search c --Apple-Mail-21-374264836 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm amazed at the interest you guys in the big city have for things out here in the heartland. This was on the local news last week.=20 There was sort of a little biographical piece. Dalquist was compared favorably to other Minnesota inventors of useful things, like post-it notes and heart valves. These are nice people. -jc On Jan 10, 2005, at 12:56 PM, Pamela S. Follett wrote: ArialLeave it to you Bruce to find this article.=A0 so, did anyone attend the funeral service, like the Pillsbury Dough = Boy? Arial=A0 Arial- = Pam Arial----- Original Message ----- Arial = From: 0000,0000,EEEEBruce Marcham = = ArialTo:Arial = 0000,0000,EEEEBULLAMA= [log in to unmask] = = ArialSent:= Arial Friday, January 07, 2005 10:03 = ArialSubject:Arial Re: [BP] inventor of the Bundt pan ArialOr = 0000,0000,EEEEhttp://www.startribune.com/stories/462= /5171410.html Arial=A0 ArialLast update: January 5, 2005 at 11:25 PM = ArialBundt pan inventor H. David Dalquist = dies = Arial = ArialIn addition to his son David, survivors include his wife, Dorothy Margerite Staugaard Dalquist; another son, Jeffrey, of Medina; daughters Corrine Lynch, of Eden Prairie, and Susan Brust, of Dellwood, and 12 grandchildren. ArialServices will be held at 2 p.m. Friday at Normandale Lutheran Church, 6100 Normandale Rd., Edina. Visitation is from 4 to 8 p.m. today at Washburn-McReavy Eden Prairie Chapel, 7625 Mitchel Rd. ArialTrudi Hahn is at = 0000,0000,EEEE[log in to unmask]. Tahoma-----Original Message----- = TahomaFrom:Tahoma<= smaller> Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot = [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Met = History = TahomaSent:Tahoma<= smaller> Thursday, January 06, 2005 8:25 = PM = TahomaTo:Tahoma = [log in to unmask] = TahomaSubject:Tahoma Re: [BP] inventor of the Bundt = pan ArialIn a message dated 1/6/2005 8:11:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] = writes: ArialDid he have a name or was he just Mr Bundt?=A0 Was he German?=A0 Ruth go to 0000,0000,EEEEwww.nytimes.com=A0 search = c = --Apple-Mail-21-374264836-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:21:07 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [BULK] Re: [BP] music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Better there than in a jar by the side of the bed. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gabriel Orgrease" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 10:14 Subject: Re: [BP] [BULK] Re: [BP] music in life > Pamela S. Follett wrote: > > >...and had all their teeth. > > > And had them in their mouth as well? > > ][< > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:17:17 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [BULK] Re: [BP] music in life In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0031_01C4F716.B55ABB60" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C4F716.B55ABB60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of [log in to unmask] Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 10:06 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BP] [BULK] Re: [BP] music in life In a message dated 1/7/2005 12:29:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Ralph: Put in that context, I fully understand, I respect you again I'm so relieved., and I'm happy to hear your preference in music, I can make some fair assumptions as to who is on your list. Besides, it's cold in Maine, if I want some of that action (which I don't), we have plenty of shrimp boats to chose from, thirty minutes from here. We have some new opportunities in New Jersey, it appears, too. Took me awhile to catch up to you on this one, too many e-mails, I'm going to let a sleeping dog lie. I didn't expect the back lash to my comment regarding my dislike of Ms Spears (and only, her)., and the assumption, that I was implying that "all" persons living in relocatable housing are trash. I didn't think that was your intention either. Only those with the pick up truck, or Camaro out front on blocks ("gonna fix that someday"), and the trash/fire pit outback, no skirting, plenty of mildew on the outside, no grass in the yard, or no yard (if you don't have a yard,who needs a lawn mower? There are always several disassembled mowers next to the Camaro), and that faint odor of blocked sewer. This all sounds like my basement. My wife spent the first 17 years of her life living "amongst them", while her father followed the oil patch through out the northeast. They moved the house all over northwest PA, and eastern Ohio. Other than the fact that her family seems to be largely dysfunctional during the holidays Gee, I heard most families are extra functional during the holidays. , there was no apparent long term effects from the experience. My in-laws are now mobile TPT, living in a diesel trailer, or to be more respectable RVers, currently lodged in Mesa AZ., along with 20,000 other owners of large quantities of semi precious metal.My good bud Clark (the one who licked the monkey bars in North Dakota in January) lived in Mesa when I knew him. Never had much appeal for me. It's kind of like my station wagon, er SUV. I can't find the e-mail describing how "nice" Vermont is, what with all of their trailers I didn't see any when I was there; fortunately the trees hid them pretty well. , come down here to the Lone Star state, I'll show you some unique applications of "affordable housing". Thanks but no thanks. Besides, I'd probably camp out in front of my ex-squeeze's house and just die of embarrassment. As a side note, I have a theory regarding the "trailer bait" aspect of mobiles homes. First not all tornadoes hit trailers or trailer parks. But we all know that a lot of trailer parks get hit, especially due north of us, in the alley. All tornadoes have an extremely high electrical charge, my thought is since trailer parks have a large concentration of ferrous metal, there is a possibility of large amounts of oppositely charged particles (to the tornadoes) or possible slight magnetic field disruptions causing a release in the air of these particles, causing the apparent attraction,....... after you all get through laughing, give it some thought, and no I do not spend a lot of time standing out in the sun. I don't buy an electromagnetic basis for this phenomenon, but don't have a better explanation to offer. My guess is a combination of coincidence, flimsiness and photogenics. I never thought about the photogenics, they do make great fodder for the news crews. Well I'm off to spread some more politely incorrect statements to the locals. While you're at it, tell them all I said they should get hosed. Not everything, and everyone down here is red. Yeah, you exported your head genius to goddam Washington. Thanks a lot. Just goes to show you, Texans aren't as dumb as you think, we trucked him off to DC, we still have that clause in the state charter regarding succession, what as a republic and all, things get to hot, adios my friend, he's your problem. Ralph Jim ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C4F716.B55ABB60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Pre-patinated = plastic=20 gumby block w/ coin slot=20 [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of=20 [log in to unmask]
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 10:06=20 PM
To: = [log in to unmask]
Subject:=20 Re: [BP] [BULK] Re: [BP] music in life

In a message dated 1/7/2005 12:29:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
Ralph:
 
 Put in that context, I = fully=20 understand, I respect you again I'm so=20 relieved., and I'm happy to hear your preference in = music, I=20 can make some fair assumptions as to who is on your list. Besides, = it's cold=20 in Maine, if I want some of that action (which I don't), we have = plenty of=20 shrimp boats to chose from, thirty minutes from here. We = have some=20 new opportunities in New Jersey, it appears, too.  Took = me awhile=20 to catch up to you on this one, too many e-mails, I'm = going to let=20 a sleeping dog lie. 
 I didn't expect the back = lash to=20 my comment regarding my dislike of Ms Spears (and only, her)., and=20 the assumption, that I was implying that "all" persons = living in=20 relocatable housing are trash. I didn't think that was your=20 intention either. Only those with the pick up truck, = or Camaro=20 out front on blocks ("gonna fix that someday"), and the trash/fire = pit=20 outback, no skirting, plenty of mildew on the outside, no grass in = the yard,=20 or no yard (if you don't have a yard,who needs a lawn mower? There = are=20 always several disassembled mowers next to the Camaro), and = that faint=20 odor of blocked sewer. This all sounds like my = basement.=20 My wife spent the first 17 years of her life living = "amongst them",=20 while her father followed the oil patch through out the northeast. = They=20 moved the house all over northwest PA, and eastern Ohio. Other than = the fact=20 that her family seems to be largely dysfunctional during the = holidays=20 Gee, I heard most families are extra functional during the = holidays.=20 , there was no apparent long term effects from the=20 experience. My in-laws are now mobile TPT, living in a diesel=20 trailer, or to be more respectable RVers, currently lodged in = Mesa AZ.,=20 along with 20,000 other owners of large quantities of semi precious=20 metal.My good bud Clark (the one who licked the monkey bars = in North=20 Dakota in January) lived in Mesa when I knew him.  Never had = much=20 appeal for me. It's kind of like my station wagon, er=20 SUV.
  I can't find the = e-mail=20 describing how "nice" Vermont is, what with all of their trailers = I=20 didn't see any when I was there; fortunately the trees hid them = pretty well.=20 , come down here to the Lone Star state, I'll show you = some=20 unique applications of = "affordable housing".  Thanks=20 but no thanks.  Besides, I'd probably camp out in front of my=20 ex-squeeze's house and just die of embarrassment.  As = a side=20 note, I have a theory regarding the "trailer bait" aspect of mobiles = homes.=20 First not all tornadoes hit trailers or trailer parks. But we all = know that=20 a lot of trailer parks get hit, especially due north of us, in = the=20 alley. All tornadoes have an extremely high electrical = charge, my=20 thought is since trailer parks have a large concentration of ferrous = metal,=20 there is a possibility of large amounts of oppositely charged = particles=20 (to the tornadoes) or possible slight magnetic field = disruptions=20 causing a release in the air of these particles, causing the = apparent=20 attraction,....... after you all get through laughing, give it some = thought,=20 and no I do not spend a lot of time standing out in the sun.  = I=20 don't buy an electromagnetic basis for this phenomenon, but don't = have a=20 better explanation to offer. My guess is a combination of = coincidence,=20 flimsiness and photogenics.  I never=20 thought about the photogenics, they do make great fodder for the=20 news crews. 
 Well I'm off to spread = some more=20 politely incorrect statements to the locals. While you're at = it,=20 tell them all I said they should get hosed. Not everything, = and=20 everyone down here is red. Yeah, you exported your head = genius=20 to goddam Washington.  Thanks a lot.  Just goes=20 to show you, Texans aren't as dumb as you think, we trucked him off = to DC,=20 we still have that clause in the state charter regarding succession, = what as=20 a republic and all, things get to hot, adios my friend, he's your=20 problem. 
Ralph
 
 
Jim 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C4F716.B55ABB60-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:37:01 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [BULK] Re: [BP] music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_012D_01C4F721.D8B10DC0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_012D_01C4F721.D8B10DC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear brother -=20 You may not be spending too much time in the sun, but you've definitely = spent too much time being an electron routing coordinator. Excuse me - = a LICENSED electron routing coordinator. Maybe Mr. Science can study = the plausibility of your theory. - Pam ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jim Follett=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 12:27 Subject: Re: [BP] [BULK] Re: [BP] music in life As a side note, I have a theory regarding the "trailer bait" aspect of = mobiles homes. First not all tornadoes hit trailers or trailer parks. = But we all know that a lot of trailer parks get hit, especially due = north of us, in the alley. All tornadoes have an extremely high = electrical charge, my thought is since trailer parks have a large = concentration of ferrous metal, there is a possibility of large amounts = of oppositely charged particles (to the tornadoes) or possible slight = magnetic field disruptions causing a release in the air of these = particles, causing the apparent attraction,....... after you all get = through laughing, give it some thought, and no I do not spend a lot of = time standing out in the sun.=20 Well I'm off to spread some more politely incorrect statements to the = locals. Not everything, and everyone down here is red. Jim ------=_NextPart_000_012D_01C4F721.D8B10DC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear brother -
 
You may not be spending too much time in the sun, but you've = definitely=20 spent too much time being an electron routing coordinator.  Excuse = me - a=20 LICENSED electron routing coordinator.  Maybe Mr. Science can study = the=20 plausibility of your theory.
 
- Pam
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From:=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Jim=20 Follett
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005=20 12:27
Subject: Re: [BP] [BULK] Re: = [BP] music=20 in life

As a side note, I have a theory = regarding=20 the "trailer bait" aspect of mobiles homes. First not all tornadoes = hit=20 trailers or trailer parks. But we all know that a lot of trailer parks = get=20 hit, especially due north of us, in the alley.=20 All tornadoes have an extremely high electrical charge, my = thought=20 is since trailer parks have a large concentration of ferrous metal, = there is a=20 possibility of large amounts of oppositely charged particles (to = the=20 tornadoes) or possible slight magnetic field disruptions = causing a=20 release in the air of these particles, causing the apparent=20 attraction,....... after you all get through laughing, give it some = thought,=20 and no I do not spend a lot of time standing out in the sun. =
 Well I'm off to spread = some more=20 politely incorrect statements to the locals. Not everything, and=20 everyone down here is red.
 
Jim 
------=_NextPart_000_012D_01C4F721.D8B10DC0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:38:26 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: What if H. O. Havemeyer married John Coltrane? LIONEL HAMPTONS! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0149_01C4F722.0B274C10" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0149_01C4F722.0B274C10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yup, just ask Ralph. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: John Callan=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 13:33 Subject: Re: [BP] What if H. O. Havemeyer married John Coltrane? = LIONEL HAMPTONS! You need to hire an architect because architects enrich the lives of = everyone around them. They fill spaces with joy and comfort, peace and = safety, comraderie and other good stuff.=20 -jc On Jan 7, 2005, at 12:22 PM, Met History wrote: In a message dated 1/7/2005 12:49:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: For that you are required to get an Architect...and an interior = designer...maybe a flourist too.=20 anyway, i am not focussed on why we "have" to get an architect (if = we do); it is why we feel the need to hire an architect. c ------=_NextPart_000_0149_01C4F722.0B274C10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yup, just ask Ralph.
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From:=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">John Callan=20
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005=20 13:33
Subject: Re: [BP] What if H. O. = Havemeyer=20 married John Coltrane? LIONEL HAMPTONS!

You need to hire an architect because architects enrich = the=20 lives of everyone around them. They fill spaces with joy and comfort, = peace=20 and safety, comraderie and other good stuff.

-jc

On Jan = 7,=20 2005, at 12:22 PM, Met History wrote:

In a message dated = 1/7/2005=20 12:49:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] = writes:
For=20 that you are required to get an  Architect...and an interior=20 designer...maybe a flourist=20 too. 
anyway, i am not = focussed on=20 why we "have" to get an architect (if we do); it is why we feel the = need to=20 hire an architect.  =20 c
------=_NextPart_000_0149_01C4F722.0B274C10-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:59:40 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: this just in on condom testing... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0172_01C4F725.02A64C00" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0172_01C4F725.02A64C00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable But it seems to me that having a natural disaster (mindful of course = that's it's a pretty damned bad one) that a lot of people who normally = would be fighting tooth and nail against democracy are lending a hand = because they know that deep down it's for the ultimate good of the = society as a whole. Rebels helping their governments - they very people = they have dis-spized (having problems spelling, so I went with a = pronunciation key) - may finally get what they really need just by = helping their own and pulling up their own bootstraps rather than having = us step in to do it for them, which ever side we fall on. - Pam ----- Original Message -----=20 From: John Callan=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 16:36 Subject: Re: [BP] this just in on condom testing... Yup. That's why I think he's there. But, there are folks who will be = of the opinion that it is because he has experience and expertise. = Arguing that point will only make you look like a sore looser. Democracy? Well, Jim, this is kind of philosophical, but democracy is = pretty damned good... for most folks, most of the time and there are = lots of folks committed to preventing democracy from taking hold in lots = of places. I think its in our interest to foil the later. I also think = feeding hungry people, clothing poor people, housing the homeless and = educating folks are in our interest. Keeping the peace, certainly is in = our interest. People who are well fed and busy going to school, earning = a living, or managing their communities don't have a whole lot of time = left over for acquiring weapons of mass destruction...and damned little = reason to direct them at me. See, I haven't REALLY drifted to the right. -jc On Jan 7, 2005, at 3:16 PM, Jim Follett wrote: Kind of why he's in S.E. Asia, don't you think? I have to ask, why = do we need to be the worlds peace keeper, I don't care if democracy = never makes it to the middle east, and where are the WMD we originally = went looking for? -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot = [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of John = Callan Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 3:07 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BP] this just in on condom testing... I hear the nonsense, you hear the nonsense, but 51% of the voters = heard what they wanted to hear. Best start listening to what the = persuadable 3-4% are hearing, unless you want to help elect Jeb. -jc On Jan 7, 2005, at 2:50 PM, Met History wrote: ''I know it's hard, but it's hard for a reason.'' President Bush, = speaking today on terrorist attacks before the vote in Iraq.=20 =20 Like, it would be hard without a reason. =20 sign me, res publica ------=_NextPart_000_0172_01C4F725.02A64C00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
But it seems to me that having a = natural disaster=20 (mindful of course that's it's a pretty damned bad one) that a lot of = people who=20 normally would be fighting tooth and nail against democracy are lending = a hand=20 because they know that deep down it's for the ultimate good of the = society as a=20 whole.  Rebels helping their governments - they very people they = have=20 dis-spized (having problems spelling, so I went with a pronunciation = key) - may=20 finally get what they really need just by helping their own and pulling = up their=20 own bootstraps rather than having us step in to do it for them, which = ever side=20 we fall on.
 
- Pam
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">John Callan=20
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005=20 16:36
Subject: Re: [BP] this just in = on condom=20 testing...

Yup. That's why I think he's there. But, there are = folks who=20 will be of the opinion that it is because he has experience and = expertise.=20 Arguing that point will only make you look like a sore=20 looser.

Democracy? Well, Jim, this is kind of philosophical, = but=20 democracy is pretty damned good... for most folks, most of the time = and there=20 are lots of folks committed to preventing democracy from taking hold = in lots=20 of places. I think its in our interest to foil the later. I also think = feeding=20 hungry people, clothing poor people, housing the homeless and = educating folks=20 are in our interest. Keeping the peace, certainly is in our interest. = People=20 who are well fed and busy going to school, earning a living, or = managing their=20 communities don't have a whole lot of time left over for acquiring = weapons of=20 mass destruction...and damned little reason to direct them at = me.

See,=20 I haven't REALLY drifted to the right.

-jc

On Jan 7, = 2005, at=20 3:16 PM, Jim Follett wrote:

Kind=20 of why he's in S.E. Asia, don't you think? I have to ask, why do we = need to=20 be the worlds peace keeper, I don't care if democracy never makes it = to the=20 middle east, and where are the WMD we originally went looking = for?

-----Original=20 Message-----

From:=20 Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot=20 = [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On=20 Behalf Of John = Callan

Sent:=20 Friday, January 07, 2005 3:07=20 PM

To:=20 = [log in to unmask]

Subject:=20 Re: [BP] this just in on condom = testing...


I hear the nonsense, you hear the nonsense, but = 51% of=20 the voters heard what they wanted to hear. Best start listening to = what the=20 persuadable 3-4% are hearing, unless you want to help elect=20 Jeb.

-jc


On Jan 7, 2005, at 2:50 PM, Met History=20 wrote:


''I know it's hard, but it's hard for a=20 reason.''   President Bush, speaking today on terrorist = attacks=20 before the vote in Iraq. 
 
Like, it would be hard = without a=20 reason.
 
sign me,  res=20 publica
------=_NextPart_000_0172_01C4F725.02A64C00-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:10:37 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: this just in on condom testing... In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-31-379101900 --Apple-Mail-31-379101900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Yup. But, I'm not sure there's a lot of folks fighting against democracy. =20 There sure are a lot of folks fighting us. We are a democracy. But we=20= ain't democracy. One can be against us and for democracy. (Its=20 getting easier all the time.) -jc On Jan 10, 2005, at 1:59 PM, Pamela S. Follett wrote: > But it seems to me that having a natural disaster (mindful of course=20= > that's it's a pretty damned bad one) that a lot of people who normally=20= > would be fighting tooth and nail against democracy are lending a hand=20= > because they know that deep down it's for the ultimate good of the=20 > society as a whole.=A0 Rebels helping their governments - they very=20 > people they have dis-spized (having problems spelling, so I went with=20= > a pronunciation key) - may finally get what they really need just by=20= > helping their own and pulling up their own bootstraps rather than=20 > having us step in to do it for them, which ever side we fall on. > =A0 > - Pam > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John Callan > To: [log in to unmask] > Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 16:36 > Subject: Re: [BP] this just in on condom testing... > > Yup. That's why I think he's there. But, there are folks who will be=20= > of the opinion that it is because he has experience and expertise.=20 > Arguing that point will only make you look like a sore looser. > > Democracy? Well, Jim, this is kind of philosophical, but democracy is=20= > pretty damned good... for most folks, most of the time and there are=20= > lots of folks committed to preventing democracy from taking hold in=20 > lots of places. I think its in our interest to foil the later. I also=20= > think feeding hungry people, clothing poor people, housing the=20 > homeless and educating folks are in our interest. Keeping the peace,=20= > certainly is in our interest. People who are well fed and busy going=20= > to school, earning a living, or managing their communities don't have=20= > a whole lot of time left over for acquiring weapons of mass=20 > destruction...and damned little reason to direct them at me. > > See, I haven't REALLY drifted to the right. > > -jc > > On Jan 7, 2005, at 3:16 PM, Jim Follett wrote: > > > Kind of why he's in S.E. Asia, don't you think? I have to ask, why do=20= > we need to be the worlds peace keeper, I don't care if democracy never=20= > makes it to the middle east, and where are the WMD we originally went=20= > looking for? > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot=20 > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of John=20 > Callan > > Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 3:07 PM > > To: [log in to unmask] > > Subject: Re: [BP] this just in on condom testing... > > > I hear the nonsense, you hear the nonsense, but 51% of the voters=20 > heard what they wanted to hear. Best start listening to what the=20 > persuadable 3-4% are hearing, unless you want to help elect Jeb. > > -jc > > > On Jan 7, 2005, at 2:50 PM, Met History wrote: > > > ''I know it's hard, but it's hard for a reason.''=A0=A0 President = Bush,=20 > speaking today on terrorist attacks before the vote in Iraq.=A0 > =A0 > Like, it would be hard without a reason. > =A0 > sign me,=A0 res publica --Apple-Mail-31-379101900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yup. =20 But, I'm not sure there's a lot of folks fighting against democracy.=20 There sure are a lot of folks fighting us. We are a democracy. But we ain't democracy. One can be against us and for democracy. (Its getting easier all the time.) -jc On Jan 10, 2005, at 1:59 PM, Pamela S. Follett wrote: ArialBut it seems to me that having a natural disaster (mindful of course that's it's a pretty damned bad one) that a lot of people who normally would be fighting tooth and nail against democracy are lending a hand because they know that deep down it's for the ultimate good of the society as a whole.=A0 Rebels helping their governments - they very people they have dis-spized (having problems spelling, so I went with a pronunciation key) - may finally get what they really need just by helping their own and pulling up their own bootstraps rather than having us step in to do it for them, which ever side we fall = on. =A0 Arial- = Pam Arial----- Original Message ----- Arial = From: 0000,0000,EEEEJohn Callan = = ArialTo:Arial = 0000,0000,EEEEBULLAMA= [log in to unmask] = = ArialSent:= Arial Friday, January 07, 2005 16:36 = ArialSubject:Arial Re: [BP] this just in on condom testing... Yup. That's why I think he's there. But, there are folks who will be of the opinion that it is because he has experience and expertise. Arguing that point will only make you look like a sore looser. Democracy? Well, Jim, this is kind of philosophical, but democracy is pretty damned good... for most folks, most of the time and there are lots of folks committed to preventing democracy from taking hold in lots of places. I think its in our interest to foil the later. I also think feeding hungry people, clothing poor people, housing the homeless and educating folks are in our interest. Keeping the peace, certainly is in our interest. People who are well fed and busy going to school, earning a living, or managing their communities don't have a whole lot of time left over for acquiring weapons of mass destruction...and damned little reason to direct them at me. See, I haven't REALLY drifted to the right. -jc On Jan 7, 2005, at 3:16 PM, Jim Follett wrote: Kind of why he's in S.E. Asia, don't you think? I have to ask, why do we need to be the worlds peace keeper, I don't care if democracy never makes it to the middle east, and where are the WMD we originally went looking for? -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of John Callan Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 3:07 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BP] this just in on condom testing... I hear the nonsense, you hear the nonsense, but 51% of the voters heard what they wanted to hear. Best start listening to what the persuadable 3-4% are hearing, unless you want to help elect Jeb. -jc On Jan 7, 2005, at 2:50 PM, Met History wrote: ''I know it's hard, but it's hard for a reason.''=A0=A0 President Bush, speaking today on terrorist attacks before the vote in Iraq.=A0 =A0 Like, it would be hard without a reason. =A0 sign me,=A0 res publica = --Apple-Mail-31-379101900-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:51:21 -0800 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: further on the tannenbaum... In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Drat!!!! It's too late for me to get gussied up to come watch, and I love Scotch. But what the hell is a defestration ceremony and carry what down stairs???? I should think defestration would be closing up an opening. Ruth At 9:39 PM -0500 1/9/05, [log in to unmask] wrote: Park Slope village idiot tree, with help of copper sulfate in the water still sucking until defenestration ceremony today (easier than carrying down the stairs - scotch is served to the neighbors who watch from the sidewalk). VI -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Dummerston, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:40:05 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [BULK] Re: [BP] music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_018F_01C4F72A.A7E7A600" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_018F_01C4F72A.A7E7A600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is there a special crown for Ruth's distinguished position? - Pam ----- Original Message -----=20 From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 20:16 Subject: Re: [BP] [BULK] Re: [BP] music in life In a message dated 1/7/2005 7:44:57 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: I'm sure confused now!!!! I know, I know, what else is new? But I = never would have considered Margaret Wise Brown as "trailer park trash." = Besides I do rather resent that term, after all I lived in mobile homes for = a number of years--even bought one brand new. Ruth No, no, no, Ruth. Britney Spears is trailer park trash. And NOBODY is = saying you're TPT, or we'd punch 'em right in the nose. If you're a = trailer park person, you're trailer park royalty in my book. Ralph ------=_NextPart_000_018F_01C4F72A.A7E7A600 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Is there a special crown for Ruth's distinguished position?
 
- Pam
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]=20
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005=20 20:16
Subject: Re: [BP] [BULK] Re: = [BP] music=20 in life

In a message dated 1/7/2005 7:44:57 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes:
I'm=20 sure confused now!!!!  I know, I know, what else is new?  = But I=20 never
would have considered Margaret Wise Brown as "trailer park=20 trash."  Besides
I do rather resent that term, after all I = lived in=20 mobile homes for a
number of years--even bought one brand = new. =20 Ruth
No, no, no, Ruth. Britney Spears is trailer park trash. = And=20 NOBODY is saying you're TPT, or we'd punch 'em right in the = nose. If=20 you're a trailer park person, you're trailer park royalty in my=20 book.
 
Ralph
------=_NextPart_000_018F_01C4F72A.A7E7A600-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:40:30 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [BULK] Re: [BP] music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0199_01C4F72A.B72F8B50" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0199_01C4F72A.B72F8B50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mine was the Yiddish version. - Pam ----- Original Message -----=20 From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 20:17 Subject: Re: [BP] [BULK] Re: [BP] music in life In a message dated 1/7/2005 7:58:12 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: You'd love Phelps then, Ralph. It's TPHeavev around here. Not even TP Heaven has much appeal for me. Ralph ------=_NextPart_000_0199_01C4F72A.B72F8B50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mine was the Yiddish version.
 
- Pam
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From:=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]=20
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005=20 20:17
Subject: Re: [BP] [BULK] Re: = [BP] music=20 in life

In a message dated 1/7/2005 7:58:12 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask]=20 writes:
You'd love Phelps then, Ralph.  It's TPHeavev around=20 here.
Not even TP Heaven has much appeal for me.
 
Ralph
------=_NextPart_000_0199_01C4F72A.B72F8B50-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:27:43 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Bright idea! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105388863" -------------------------------1105388863 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/10/2005 3:12:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: But, I'm not sure there's a lot of folks fighting against democracy. There sure are a lot of folks fighting us. .... for the folks who are "fighting us", not "democracy". Take an IED/RPG vacation for a couple of weeks - just polish your mortar shells or something, or prevent your daughters from going to school. Then, have an election without anyone getting beheaded or being required to form naked human pyramid. Elect anyone by a simple majority, anyone: vegetarian, Vermonter, anyone. I think at this point we don't really care*. Then, even Bush/Rumsfeld will leave! And Bush will get a third term - cool!!! OK? Christopher *(Caveat: I guess that, after all this, we might conceivably stay if Saddam is elected. But then, maybe electing Saddam will lead to peace!) -------------------------------1105388863 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/10/2005 3:12:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, johncall= [log in to unmask] writes:
But, I'm not sure there's a lot of folks fight= ing against democracy. 
There sure are a lot of folks fighting us.<= /FONT>
.... for the folks who are "fighting us"= , not "democracy".  Take an IED/RPG vacation for a couple of weeks - ju= st polish your mortar shells or something, or prevent your daughters from go= ing to school.  Then, have an election without anyone getting beheaded=20= or being required to form naked human pyramid.  Elect anyone by a simpl= e majority, anyone: vegetarian, Vermonter, anyone. I think at this poin= t we don't really care*. Then, even Bush/Rumsfeld will leave! &nbs= p; And Bush will get a third term - cool!!!   
 
OK?      &= nbsp;  Christopher
 
*(Caveat:  I guess that, after all=20= this, we might conceivably stay if Saddam is elected.  But then, maybe=20= electing Saddam will lead to peace!)
-------------------------------1105388863-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:42:04 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: somebody tell osha about this...to say nothing of the guy in Perth Amboy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01AF_01C4F72A.EF23BB80" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01AF_01C4F72A.EF23BB80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 22:36 Subject: Re: [BP] somebody tell osha about this...to say nothing of = the guy in Perth Amboy In a message dated 1/7/2005 9:39:46 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: As I remember the Consumer Reports article, no human beings (or at > least the good parts thereof) were personally involved in the test > process. So I'm not sure how anybody might have contracted = syphilis > in the course of performing these tests. > > Ralph Was there one of those "DO NOT DO THIS AT HOME" disclaimers? I checked the article, and see that the Consumers Reports spoilsports = test method involved inflating the condoms to failure, using somewhere = between 25-37 liters of air. Hell of a blow job. Talk about the whole = nine yards.... They noted that some of the ones given away by Planned = Parenthood weren't so great, and some particular brand (the name of = which was neither memorable, nor was the product appropriate) were shall = we say larger in diameter than certain persons might require.=20 Ralph - Pam ------=_NextPart_000_01AF_01C4F72A.EF23BB80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]=20
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005=20 22:36
Subject: Re: [BP] somebody tell = osha=20 about this...to say nothing of the guy in Perth Amboy

In a message dated 1/7/2005 9:39:46 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask]=20 writes:
As I=20 remember the Consumer Reports article, no human beings (or = at
> least=20 the good parts thereof) were personally involved in the test
> = process.  So I'm not sure how anybody might have contracted=20 syphilis
> in the course of performing these = tests.
>
>=20 Ralph

Was there one of those "DO NOT DO THIS AT HOME"=20 disclaimers?
I checked the article, and see that the Consumers Reports = spoilsports=20 test method involved inflating the condoms to failure, using = somewhere=20 between 25-37 liters of air.  Hell of a blow = job. =20 Talk about the whole nine yards....   They noted that some = of the=20 ones given away by Planned Parenthood weren't so great, and some = particular=20 brand (the name of which was neither memorable, nor was the product=20 appropriate) were shall we say larger in diameter than certain persons = might=20 require. 
 
Ralph - = Pam
 ------=_NextPart_000_01AF_01C4F72A.EF23BB80-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:42:50 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Bright idea! In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0048_01C4F722.A8C22120" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0048_01C4F722.A8C22120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Met History Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 2:28 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [BP] Bright idea! In a message dated 1/10/2005 3:12:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: But, I'm not sure there's a lot of folks fighting against democracy. There sure are a lot of folks fighting us. .... for the folks who are "fighting us", not "democracy". Take an IED/RPG vacation for a couple of weeks - just polish your mortar shells or something, or prevent your daughters from going to school. Then, have an election without anyone getting beheaded or being required to form naked human pyramid. Elect anyone by a simple majority, anyone: vegetarian, Vermonter, anyone. I think at this point we don't really care*. Then, even Bush/Rumsfeld will leave! And Bush will get a third term - cool!!! I put this next to sleeping with Roettwielers OK? Christopher *(Caveat: I guess that, after all this, we might conceivably stay if Saddam is elected. But then, maybe electing Saddam will lead to peace!) ------=_NextPart_000_0048_01C4F722.A8C22120 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Pre-patinated = plastic gumby=20 block w/ coin slot = [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On=20 Behalf Of Met History
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 = 2:28=20 PM
To: = [log in to unmask]
Subject:=20 [BP] Bright idea!

In a message dated 1/10/2005 3:12:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
But, I'm not sure there's a lot of folks fighting = against=20 democracy. 
There sure are a lot of folks fighting=20 us.
.... for the folks who are = "fighting us",=20 not "democracy".  Take an IED/RPG vacation for a couple of weeks = - just=20 polish your mortar shells or something, or prevent your daughters from = going=20 to school.  Then, have an election without anyone getting = beheaded or=20 being required to form naked human pyramid.  Elect anyone by a = simple=20 majority, anyone: vegetarian, Vermonter, anyone. I think at this = point we=20 don't really care*. Then, even Bush/Rumsfeld will = leave!  =20 And Bush will get a third term -=20 cool!!!    I=20 put this next to sleeping with = Roettwielers 
 
OK?        =20 Christopher
 
*(Caveat:  I guess that, = after all=20 this, we might conceivably stay if Saddam is elected.  But then, = maybe=20 electing Saddam will lead to peace!) =
------=_NextPart_000_0048_01C4F722.A8C22120-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:50:57 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: further on the tannenbaum... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105390257" -------------------------------1105390257 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ruth- The defenestration ceremony refers to the Czech method of getting rid of members of the nobility or, later on, that used by the Commies to get rid of puppets. Seems that Prague Castle has the perfect window sizes for tossing out humanoids. I've been concentrating on trees with less girth so the full toss occurs with less friction at the jambs. This year we had Bowmore 18 year old and Langavullin 12. Next year it will be held on January 8th. You're invited. Twybil -------------------------------1105390257 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ruth-
The defenestration ceremony refers to the Czech method of getting rid o= f=20 members of the nobility or, later on, that used by the Commies to get rid of= =20 puppets. Seems that Prague Castle has the perfect window sizes for tossing o= ut=20 humanoids.
 
I've been concentrating on trees with less girth so the full toss occur= s=20 with less friction at the jambs.  
 
This year we had Bowmore 18 year old and Langavullin 12. Next year it w= ill=20 be held on January 8th. You're invited. 
 
Twybil
 -------------------------------1105390257-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:53:04 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Bright idea! In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-32-381649242 --Apple-Mail-32-381649242 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Oh calm down Christopher. We are on the same side. (Which is not to=20 say we are in agreement...especially with that 3rd term stuff...I don't=20= want three terms of George, and neither of us wants Bill to return for=20= a third.) I was not speaking specifically of Iraqi democrats, but the=20= world's democrats in general. Iraq is special. We rather overtly engaged in domestic politics there.=20= I don't think you are being completely honest in your apparent=20 surprise that Iraqi's seem to include the use of violence in their=20 political campaigns. Its a local traditional expression of the=20 democratic process. If they choose to use it against us, well, they=20 must think we are campaigning for a role in their government. Now how=20= could they have gotten such a silly idea? -jc On Jan 10, 2005, at 2:27 PM, Met History wrote: > In a message dated 1/10/2005 3:12:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,=20 > [log in to unmask] writes: > But, I'm not sure there's a lot of folks fighting against democracy.=A0 > There sure are a lot of folks fighting us. > .... for the folks who are "fighting us", not "democracy".=A0 Take an=20= > IED/RPG vacation for a couple of weeks - just polish your mortar=20 > shells or something, or prevent your daughters from going to school.=A0=20= > Then, have an election without anyone getting beheaded or being=20 > required to form naked human pyramid.=A0 Elect anyone by a simple=20 > majority, anyone: vegetarian, Vermonter, anyone.=A0I think at this = point=20 > we don't really care*.=A0Then, even Bush/Rumsfeld will leave!=A0=A0 = And Bush=20 > will get a third term - cool!!!=A0=A0=A0 > =A0 > OK?=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Christopher > =A0 > *(Caveat:=A0 I guess that, after all this, we might conceivably stay = if=20 > Saddam is elected.=A0 But then, maybe electing Saddam will lead to=20 > peace!) --Apple-Mail-32-381649242 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Oh calm down Christopher. We are on the same side. (Which is not to say we are in agreement...especially with that 3rd term stuff...I don't want three terms of George, and neither of us wants Bill to return for a third.) I was not speaking specifically of Iraqi democrats, but the world's democrats in general. =20 Iraq is special. We rather overtly engaged in domestic politics there. I don't think you are being completely honest in your apparent surprise that Iraqi's seem to include the use of violence in their political campaigns. Its a local traditional expression of the democratic process. If they choose to use it against us, well, they must think we are campaigning for a role in their government. Now how could they have gotten such a silly idea? -jc On Jan 10, 2005, at 2:27 PM, Met History wrote: ArialIn a message dated 1/10/2005 3:12:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] = writes: ArialBut, I'm not sure there's a lot of folks fighting against democracy.=A0 Arial There sure are a lot of folks fighting us. .... for the folks who are "fighting us", not "democracy".=A0 Take an IED/RPG vacation for a couple of weeks - just polish your mortar shells or something, or prevent your daughters from going to school.=A0 Then, have an election without anyone getting beheaded or being required to form naked human pyramid.=A0 Elect anyone by a simple majority, anyone: vegetarian, Vermonter, anyone.=A0I think at this point we don't really care*.=A0Then, even Bush/Rumsfeld will leave!=A0=A0 And = Bush will get a third term - cool!!!=A0=A0=A0 Arial=A0 OK?=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Christopher Arial=A0 *(Caveat:=A0 I guess that, after all this, we might conceivably stay if Saddam is elected.=A0 But then, maybe electing Saddam will lead to peace!) = --Apple-Mail-32-381649242-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:13:40 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Dying keyboard MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's possible with a sharp knife to remove the keys, clean with q-tips and reapply the keys. It's a lot of fun when you forget the qwerty order and type by sight! - Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth Barton" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 23:06 Subject: [BP] Dying keyboard > I think my keyboard is dying, I have to hit some keys several times to make > them work. Maybe too many cracker crumbs in there. Just turned it upside > down and shook it and it seems to be a bit better. Ruth > -- > Ruth Barton > [log in to unmask] > Dummerston, VT > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:15:27 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Reply issues MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As in, before you read the right woid? Me, too. I was wondering if jc was living next to a moyle (sp?). - Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gabriel Orgrease" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 08:38 Subject: Re: [BP] Reply issues > [log in to unmask] wrote: > > > *Your life must be very circumscribed.* > > I had to read this three times before I understood the message. > > ][< > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:16:40 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Dying keyboard MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Was it something suitable for framing (or framing him with)? - Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Callan" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 09:12 Subject: Re: [BP] Dying keyboard Yesterday, he reluctantly informed me that I had > been correct about something. I'm was just so darned happy to hear > that! > > -jc > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:04:35 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Anyway, next time I'm voting for Hillary Clinton. So there. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105391075" -------------------------------1105391075 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/10/2005 3:53:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Oh calm down Christopher. We are on the same side. didn't say we weren't. AND I'M PERFECTLY CALM. {note period at end of sentence, instead of exclamation point.) and, about that third term .... just kidding. apparently we need a constitutional amendment to do that. gosh, i have an idea, a twofer amendment convention!! yrs Franklin Delano WeddingBells -------------------------------1105391075 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/10/2005 3:53:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, johncall= [log in to unmask] writes:
Oh calm down Christopher.  We are on the=20= same side. 
didn't say we weren't.   AND I= 'M PERFECTLY CALM. {note period at end of sentence, instead of exclamation p= oint.)
 
and, about that third term .... just kid= ding.  apparently we need a constitutional amendment to do that. =20= gosh, i have an idea, a twofer amendment convention!!   
 
yrs  Franklin Delano WeddingBells <= /FONT>
-------------------------------1105391075-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:06:06 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Dying keyboard MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105391166" -------------------------------1105391166 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/10/2005 4:00:50 PM, [log in to unmask] writes: It's a lot of fun when you forget the qwerty order and type by sight! think i saw that in a modern dance performance. they used two hands. -------------------------------1105391166 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/10/2005 4:00:50 PM, [log in to unmask] writes= :
It's a lot of fun when you forget the qwerty o= rder and type by sight!
think i saw that in a modern dance perfo= rmance.  they used two hands.
-------------------------------1105391166-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:20:23 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Archtects & Their Education MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Come on, admit it - you meant the Freudian slip. You really want to shoot the peasants. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gabriel Orgrease" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 10:24 Subject: Re: [BP] Archtects & Their Education > > In the unHamptons architects will go hungry. > > > > *Some of us could afford to lose a little weight. If not gravitas. > > Or gravlax.* > > ** > > *Ralph* > > Good reason, I suppose, to go out to the preHamptons and trudge around > in a field for several hours shooting at peasants... I mean, pheasants. > We do have, in the unHamptons a vigilante arson squad. I doubt they feel > a need to consult an architect regarding their next project. > I also doubt they will let c. get close enough to interview them. > > ][< > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:11:09 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Reply issues In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit No, no moyles in this neighborhood! Just a bunch of neo-pinkos. And I didn't write anything circumscribed. I am circumspect at times, but not circumscribed. And the work of the moyle is not something I wish to discuss. But once we convince Ralph to get a webcam, we can inspect and discuss all you want. -jc On Jan 10, 2005, at 3:15 PM, Pamela S. Follett wrote: > As in, before you read the right woid? Me, too. I was wondering if > jc was > living next to a moyle (sp?). > > - Pam > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gabriel Orgrease" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 08:38 > Subject: Re: [BP] Reply issues > > >> [log in to unmask] wrote: >> >>> *Your life must be very circumscribed.* >> >> I had to read this three times before I understood the message. >> >> ][< >> >> -- >> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the >> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: >> >> > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:28:49 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: NJ Man Facing Charges in Abuse of Dog MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_023B_01C4F731.76EEB4B0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_023B_01C4F731.76EEB4B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable NJ Man Facing Charges in Abuse of DogI see they're still giving you the = world if you give them 30 minutes - just seems like a smaller world. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: ralph=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 12:15 Subject: [BP] NJ Man Facing Charges in Abuse of Dog Greetings from 1010 WINS - New York's All News Station ! ralph recommends you check out this story from 1010 WINS - New = York's All News Station . Message from ralph: I can't believe none of you picked up on = this. NJ Man Facing Charges in Abuse of Dog A Perth Amboy man has been charged with torturing a Rottweiler = by sodomizing the dog in what authorities are calling a case of = "horrific abuse." The New Jersey Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals = charged Jose Rodriguez on Monday in the alleged sodomy of the female = Rottweiler, Click here for the rest of this story. =20 -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the = uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ------=_NextPart_000_023B_01C4F731.76EEB4B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable NJ Man Facing Charges in Abuse of Dog
I see they're still = giving you the=20 world if you give them 30 minutes - just seems like a smaller=20 world.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 [log in to unmask] href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">ralph =
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Saturday, January 08, = 2005=20 12:15
Subject: [BP] NJ Man Facing = Charges in=20 Abuse of Dog

Greetings from 1010 = WINS - New=20 York's All News Station !
ralph recommends you = check=20 out this story from 1010 WINS - New York's All News Station=20 .
Message from ralph: I can't believe none of you = picked=20 up on this.

NJ Man Facing=20 Charges in Abuse of Dog
A Perth Amboy man has = been=20 charged with torturing a Rottweiler by sodomizing the dog in = what=20 authorities are calling a case of "horrific abuse."

The = New=20 Jersey Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals charged = Jose=20 Rodriguez on Monday in the alleged sodomy of the female = Rottweiler, Click here for the rest of this = story.=20
-- To terminate puerile preservation = prattling among=20 pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ------=_NextPart_000_023B_01C4F731.76EEB4B0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:18:19 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Anyway, next time I'm voting for Hillary Clinton. So there. In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-37-383164034 --Apple-Mail-37-383164034 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Why stop there? Lets call for a constitutional convention! We can=20 solve all those irritating problems at one time. -jc On Jan 10, 2005, at 3:04 PM, Met History wrote: > In a message dated 1/10/2005 3:53:35 PM Eastern Standard Time,=20 > [log in to unmask] writes: > Oh calm down Christopher.=A0 We are on the same side.=A0 > didn't say we weren't.=A0=A0 AND I'M PERFECTLY CALM. {note period at = end=20 > of sentence, instead of exclamation point.) > =A0 > and, about that third term .... just kidding.=A0 apparently we need a=20= > constitutional amendment to do that.=A0 gosh, i have an idea, a twofer=20= > amendment convention!!=A0=A0=A0 > =A0 > yrs=A0 Franklin Delano WeddingBells --Apple-Mail-37-383164034 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Why stop there? Lets call for a constitutional convention! We can solve all those irritating problems at one time. -jc On Jan 10, 2005, at 3:04 PM, Met History wrote: ArialIn a message dated 1/10/2005 3:53:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] = writes: ArialOh calm down Christopher.=A0 We are on the same side.=A0 Arial didn't say we weren't.=A0=A0 AND I'M PERFECTLY CALM. {note period at end of sentence, instead of exclamation point.) Arial=A0 and, about that third term .... just kidding.=A0 apparently we need a constitutional amendment to do that.=A0 gosh, i have an idea, a twofer amendment convention!!=A0=A0=A0 Arial=A0 yrs=A0 Franklin Delano WeddingBells = --Apple-Mail-37-383164034-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:32:44 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Reply problem returns and the age of youthful wisdom MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John - This is sounding like a viral infection. Is your computer sniffling? Check out this site for some antibiotics you can try: http://securitytango.com/ - This is an RIT dude who's a bit of a dweeb, but his hints are quite helpful. - Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Callan" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 14:58 Subject: [BP] Reply problem returns and the age of youthful wisdom > Ralph, > > Its happening again. Replies to you just sort of make the monitor > twitch. When I restart I will have a bunch of blank emails pop up. I > don't like intermitent problems, they are anoying and very hard to > track down. > > I'm sure Patrick's take on my being correct about something is that it > was a fluck and that as soon as he has had a good night's sleep it will > go away. He's 18. Judging by his sisters (22 & 28), you might as > well plan on being generally regarded as a senial old fart for the rest > of your daze. > > (That's why I love hanging out with young preservationeers! They don't > generally think I'm stupid. And when they think I might be stupid, > they choose to attribute it to my being a colorful character. They are > much nicer than my children.) > > -jc > > > In a message dated 1/8/2005 9:13:53 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > [log in to unmask] writes: > > My darling son is setting himself up for the same lesson. But, anytime > I suggest changes in his habits I am informed that I am a candidate for > a full body condom. Yesterday, he reluctantly informed me that I had > been correct about something. I'm was just so darned happy to hear > that! > > > How old is this kid, and how long do I have to wait? > > > > Ralph > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:35:31 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: 1421 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We finally had a day of snow up here on Saturday. We've had some snowe a bit earlier in the season, but so far our winter has been one long November (or maybe March). I keep waiting for the daffodils to pop up. We had thunder and lightening last night - happens once in a while around here. But then, Thursday's forecast is temps 53/28, and then Friday's temps are forecasted to be 28/12. I'm sure we're headed for an ice age! - Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth Barton" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 22:41 Subject: Re: [BP] 1421 > Quit whining, we had 6" of snow Thurs and another 4 or 5 today. Ruth > > > > At 12:41 PM -0500 1/8/05, [log in to unmask] wrote: > In a message dated 1/8/2005 12:12:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > [log in to unmask] writes: > > It is wet and dreary and having spent the morning figuring out how to > move the dictionary, and quibbling here online, I'm ready for a nap. > > The palm trees are wafting in the breeze here. I'm about ready for a nap, too. > > Weather's nearly too lousy to go to The Mall. > > Ralph > > -- > Ruth Barton > [log in to unmask] > Dummerston, VT > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:40:51 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Reply issues MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ahhhhhhhhhh - see, he didn't mention that part or I didn't read that part. So, my last email about the security tango site might not make a twit of difference to him. - Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Becker" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 21:40 Subject: Re: [BP] Reply issues > At 9:18 AM -0500 1/7/05, Pamela S. Follett wrote: > > > > upgrade have a tendency > > to upgrade shared components so I was figuring on either a change in > > options or maybe a new version of a dll wass waiting for you to reboot. - > > Pam > > Except that John's on a Mac platform and doesn't use dll's. > > D. > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:27:27 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Dying keyboard In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I advised him that registering for classes was not something a first semester freshmen should put off to the last moment. I described some of the probable consequences, without admitting that at one time or another I had suffered them all. His mother agreed with me! And he of course ignored us both. But, he did report that indeed, the classes he had wanted were with one exception filled, and the classes he was able to get were all at inconvenient times. And it was possible that I and been right, that some of these problems could have been avoided if he had registered earlier. But, that was last week. It was temporary. I have returned to my natural state as a candidate for a full body condom. -jc On Jan 10, 2005, at 3:16 PM, Pamela S. Follett wrote: > Was it something suitable for framing (or framing him with)? > > - Pam > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Callan" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 09:12 > Subject: Re: [BP] Dying keyboard > > > Yesterday, he reluctantly informed me that I had >> been correct about something. I'm was just so darned happy to hear >> that! >> >> -jc >> >> > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:41:38 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: I guess it's sort of a red state thing.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_02BB_01C4F733.415F8BB0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_02BB_01C4F733.415F8BB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sounds like a personal problem. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 22:56 Subject: Re: [BP] I guess it's sort of a red state thing.... In a message dated 1/9/2005 10:01:45 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: Watch it snow, knit and read e-mail, of course. What did you think, = that I played music, danced and scratched my crotch while wearing red = clothes? Ruth Red clothes? The rest of us wear no clothes while reading email. Ralph ------=_NextPart_000_02BB_01C4F733.415F8BB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sounds like a personal problem.
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From:=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]=20
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005=20 22:56
Subject: Re: [BP] I guess it's = sort of a=20 red state thing....

In a message dated 1/9/2005 10:01:45 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes:
Watch=20 it snow, knit and read e-mail, of course.  What did you think, = that=20 I
played music, danced and scratched my crotch while wearing red=20 clothes?
Ruth
Red clothes?  The rest of us wear no clothes while = reading=20 email.
 
Ralph
 ------=_NextPart_000_02BB_01C4F733.415F8BB0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:42:54 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Reply issues MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That's only because they've been nice enough to give us all a free virus, many times over. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Callan" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 09:26 Subject: Re: [BP] Reply issues > Now Dan, don't be like that. MS will graciously give you a free virus > protection program shortly. > > -jc > > On Jan 10, 2005, at 8:02 AM, Becker, Dan wrote: > > > Only if you like virii.... > > > > D. > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: John Callan [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > >> Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 11:08 PM > >> To: [log in to unmask] > >> Subject: Re: [BP] Reply issues > >> > >> > >> Am I missing some wonderful computer experience here? Like > >> before I had F-Keys? > >> > >> -jc > >> > >> On Jan 9, 2005, at 8:40 PM, Dan Becker wrote: > >> > >>> At 9:18 AM -0500 1/7/05, Pamela S. Follett wrote: > >>>> > >>>> upgrade have a tendency > >>>> to upgrade shared components so I was figuring on either a > >> change in > >>>> options or maybe a new version of a dll wass waiting for you to > >>>> reboot. - Pam > >>> > >>> Except that John's on a Mac platform and doesn't use dll's. > >>> > >>> D. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > >>> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > >>> > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and > >> the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > > a-pinheads.html> > >> > > > > -- > > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > > > > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:33:36 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Reply issues In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Now Pam, us Mac folks do have a few viruses. We haven't been completely ignored by the hackers. But, I keep my virus protection up to date, and scan dailey. I don't think its a virus. And now that its intermittent, I'm not even going to start to look for it. Its probably some sort of combination of programs that are not playing nice with the operating system when they are all loaded at the same time. I've been useing PhotoShop a lot in the last few days, so I'm going to blame it on Adobe, and Epson because my scanner is attached to the other computer and I have to go over there and tell it to share the damn thing every day, or I can't find it on the network. Grummmmmble grumble grummmble hr;jsalfjdlaksjflfml. On Jan 10, 2005, at 3:40 PM, Pamela S. Follett wrote: > Ahhhhhhhhhh - see, he didn't mention that part or I didn't read that > part. > So, my last email about the security tango site might not make a twit > of > difference to him. > > - Pam > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dan Becker" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 21:40 > Subject: Re: [BP] Reply issues > > >> At 9:18 AM -0500 1/7/05, Pamela S. Follett wrote: >>> >>> upgrade have a tendency >>> to upgrade shared components so I was figuring on either a change in >>> options or maybe a new version of a dll wass waiting for you to > reboot. - >>> Pam >> >> Except that John's on a Mac platform and doesn't use dll's. >> >> D. >> >> -- >> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the >> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: >> >> > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:35:04 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Reply issues In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit At least they didn't charge you for it. -jc On Jan 10, 2005, at 3:42 PM, Pamela S. Follett wrote: > That's only because they've been nice enough to give us all a free > virus, > many times over. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Callan" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 09:26 > Subject: Re: [BP] Reply issues > > >> Now Dan, don't be like that. MS will graciously give you a free virus >> protection program shortly. >> >> -jc >> >> On Jan 10, 2005, at 8:02 AM, Becker, Dan wrote: >> >>> Only if you like virii.... >>> >>> D. >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: John Callan [mailto:[log in to unmask]] >>>> Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 11:08 PM >>>> To: [log in to unmask] >>>> Subject: Re: [BP] Reply issues >>>> >>>> >>>> Am I missing some wonderful computer experience here? Like >>>> before I had F-Keys? >>>> >>>> -jc >>>> >>>> On Jan 9, 2005, at 8:40 PM, Dan Becker wrote: >>>> >>>>> At 9:18 AM -0500 1/7/05, Pamela S. Follett wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> upgrade have a tendency >>>>>> to upgrade shared components so I was figuring on either a >>>> change in >>>>>> options or maybe a new version of a dll wass waiting for you to >>>>>> reboot. - Pam >>>>> >>>>> Except that John's on a Mac platform and doesn't use dll's. >>>>> >>>>> D. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the >>>>> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and >>>> the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > >>> a-pinheads.html> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the >>> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: >>> >>> >> >> -- >> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the >> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: >> >> > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:53:34 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: this just in on condom testing... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_02DC_01C4F734.EC53C710" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_02DC_01C4F734.EC53C710 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Because everybody else thinks we should be. If we would just tell them = we don't want the job anymore, do you think they'll listen? I'm willing = to bet that Halliburton's already on its way over there, to be sure. - Pam ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jim Follett=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 16:16 Subject: Re: [BP] this just in on condom testing... Kind of why he's in S.E. Asia, don't you think? I have to ask, why do = we need to be the worlds peace keeper, I don't care if democracy never = makes it to the middle east, and where are the WMD we originally went = looking for? -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot = [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of John = Callan Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 3:07 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BP] this just in on condom testing... I hear the nonsense, you hear the nonsense, but 51% of the voters = heard what they wanted to hear. Best start listening to what the = persuadable 3-4% are hearing, unless you want to help elect Jeb. -jc On Jan 7, 2005, at 2:50 PM, Met History wrote: ''I know it's hard, but it's hard for a reason.'' President = Bush, speaking today on terrorist attacks before the vote in Iraq.=20 =20 Like, it would be hard without a reason. =20 sign me, res publica ------=_NextPart_000_02DC_01C4F734.EC53C710 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Because everybody else thinks we should = be. =20 If we would just tell them we don't want the job anymore, do you think = they'll=20 listen?  I'm willing to bet that Halliburton's already on its way = over=20 there, to be sure.
 
- Pam
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Jim=20 Follett
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005=20 16:16
Subject: Re: [BP] this just in = on condom=20 testing...

Kind=20 of why he's in S.E. Asia, don't you think? I have to ask, why do we = need to be=20 the worlds peace keeper, I don't care if democracy never makes it to = the=20 middle east, and where are the WMD we originally went looking=20 for?
-----Original Message-----
From: Pre-patinated = plastic=20 gumby block w/ coin slot=20 [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of = John=20 Callan
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 3:07 = PM
To:=20 [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: = [BP] this=20 just in on condom testing...

I hear the = nonsense, you=20 hear the nonsense, but 51% of the voters heard what they wanted to = hear.=20 Best start listening to what the persuadable 3-4% are hearing, = unless you=20 want to help elect Jeb.

-jc


On Jan 7, 2005, at = 2:50 PM,=20 Met History wrote:

''I know it's hard, = but=20 it's hard for a reason.''   President Bush, speaking = today on=20 terrorist attacks before the vote in=20 Iraq. 
 
Like,=20 it would be hard without a = reason.
 
sign=20 me,  res=20 publica
------=_NextPart_000_02DC_01C4F734.EC53C710-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:54:42 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: inventor of the Bundt pan MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_02E7_01C4F735.14F3DCF0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_02E7_01C4F735.14F3DCF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The post-it note (aka - FLYN) left on the heart valve was from the = surgeon's wife, "Honey, don't forget the bundt cake for the reception." ----- Original Message -----=20 From: John Callan=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 13:50 Subject: Re: [BP] inventor of the Bundt pan I'm amazed at the interest you guys in the big city have for things = out here in the heartland. This was on the local news last week. There = was sort of a little biographical piece. Dalquist was compared favorably = to other Minnesota inventors of useful things, like post-it notes and = heart valves. These are nice people. -jc On Jan 10, 2005, at 12:56 PM, Pamela S. Follett wrote: Leave it to you Bruce to find this article. so, did anyone attend = the funeral service, like the Pillsbury Dough Boy? =20 - Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: Bruce Marcham=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 10:03 Subject: Re: [BP] inventor of the Bundt pan Or http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/5171410.html =20 Last update: January 5, 2005 at 11:25 PM Bundt pan inventor H. David Dalquist dies In addition to his son David, survivors include his wife, Dorothy = Margerite Staugaard Dalquist; another son, Jeffrey, of Medina; daughters = Corrine Lynch, of Eden Prairie, and Susan Brust, of Dellwood, and 12 = grandchildren. Services will be held at 2 p.m. Friday at Normandale Lutheran = Church, 6100 Normandale Rd., Edina. Visitation is from 4 to 8 p.m. today = at Washburn-McReavy Eden Prairie Chapel, 7625 Mitchel Rd. Trudi Hahn is at [log in to unmask] -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot = [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Met = History Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 8:25 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BP] inventor of the Bundt pan In a message dated 1/6/2005 8:11:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: Did he have a name or was he just Mr Bundt? Was he German? Ruth go to www.nytimes.com search c ------=_NextPart_000_02E7_01C4F735.14F3DCF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The post-it note (aka - FLYN) left on = the heart=20 valve was from the surgeon's wife, "Honey, don't forget the bundt cake = for the=20 reception."
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">John Callan=20
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005=20 13:50
Subject: Re: [BP] inventor of = the Bundt=20 pan

I'm amazed at the interest you guys in the big city = have for=20 things out here in the heartland. This was on the local news last = week. There=20 was sort of a little biographical piece. Dalquist was compared = favorably to=20 other Minnesota inventors of useful things, like post-it notes and = heart=20 valves. These are nice people.

-jc


On Jan 10, 2005, = at 12:56=20 PM, Pamela S. Follett wrote:

Leave = it to=20 you Bruce to find this article.  so, did anyone attend the = funeral=20 service, like the Pillsbury Dough = Boy?

 
-=20 Pam

----- = Original=20 Message -----
From:=20 Bruce=20 Marcham =
To:= =20 [log in to unmask]<= ?/x-tad-smaller>=20
Sent:=20 Friday, January 07, 2005 = 10:03
Subject:=20 Re: [BP] inventor of the Bundt = pan

Or=20 http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/5171410.html
 

Last=20 update: January 5, 2005 at 11:25 = PM

Bundt=20 pan inventor H. David Dalquist = dies
In=20 addition to his son David, survivors include his wife, Dorothy = Margerite=20 Staugaard Dalquist; another son, Jeffrey, of Medina; daughters = Corrine=20 Lynch, of Eden Prairie, and Susan Brust, of Dellwood, and 12 = grandchildren.

Services=20 will be held at 2 p.m. Friday at Normandale Lutheran Church, 6100 = Normandale=20 Rd., Edina. Visitation is from 4 to 8 p.m. today at Washburn-McReavy = Eden=20 Prairie Chapel, 7625 Mitchel = Rd.

Trudi=20 Hahn is at [log in to unmask].
-----Original=20 Message-----

From:=20 Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot=20 = [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On=20 Behalf Of Met = History

Sent:=20 Thursday, January 06, 2005 8:25=20 PM

To:=20 = [log in to unmask]

Subject:=20 Re: [BP] inventor of the Bundt=20 pan


In a message = dated=20 1/6/2005 8:11:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] = writes:
Did=20 he have a name or was he just Mr Bundt?  Was he German?  = Ruth
go to www.nytimes.com  search = c
------=_NextPart_000_02E7_01C4F735.14F3DCF0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:55:22 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [BULK] Re: [BP] music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_02F1_01C4F735.2C447DB0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_02F1_01C4F735.2C447DB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jim Follett=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 14:17 Subject: Re: [BP] [BULK] Re: [BP] music in life Ralph: Put in that context, I fully understand, I respect you again I'm = so relieved., and I'm happy to hear your preference in music, I can make = some fair assumptions as to who is on your list. Besides, it's cold in = Maine, if I want some of that action (which I don't), we have plenty of = shrimp boats to chose from, thirty minutes from here. We have some new = opportunities in New Jersey, it appears, too. Took me awhile to catch = up to you on this one, too many e-mails, I'm going to let a sleeping dog = lie.=20 =20 Obviously, Mr. Perth Amboy didn't. - Pam ------=_NextPart_000_02F1_01C4F735.2C447DB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Jim=20 Follett
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005=20 14:17
Subject: Re: [BP] [BULK] Re: = [BP] music=20 in life
Ralph:
 
 Put in that context, I = fully=20 understand, I respect you again I'm so=20 relieved., and I'm happy to hear your preference in = music, I=20 can make some fair assumptions as to who is on your list. Besides, = it's=20 cold in Maine, if I want some of that action (which I don't), we = have=20 plenty of shrimp boats to chose from, thirty minutes from here. = We=20 have some new opportunities in New Jersey, it appears, = too.  Took me awhile=20 to catch up to you on this one, too many e-mails, I'm = going to=20 let a sleeping dog lie. 
 
Obviously, Mr. Perth Amboy = didn't. -=20 = Pam
 ------=_NextPart_000_02F1_01C4F735.2C447DB0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:43:16 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: NJ Man Facing Charges in Abuse of Dog MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Now it's "you give us 22 minutes, we'll give you the world." I'm not sure whether thats better or worse than 30 minutes. Only in New Jersey. Ralph -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:57:54 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Bright idea! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0302_01C4F735.8714A120" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0302_01C4F735.8714A120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jim Follett=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 15:42 Subject: Re: [BP] Bright idea! In a message dated 1/10/2005 3:12:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: But, I'm not sure there's a lot of folks fighting against = democracy. =20 There sure are a lot of folks fighting us. .... for the folks who are "fighting us", not "democracy". Take an = IED/RPG vacation for a couple of weeks - just polish your mortar shells = or something, or prevent your daughters from going to school. Then, = have an election without anyone getting beheaded or being required to = form naked human pyramid. Elect anyone by a simple majority, anyone: = vegetarian, Vermonter, anyone. I think at this point we don't really = care*. Then, even Bush/Rumsfeld will leave! And Bush will get a third = term - cool!!! I put this next to sleeping with Roettwielers No, the = rottwielers is more appealing. OK? Christopher=20 *(Caveat: I guess that, after all this, we might conceivably stay = if Saddam is elected. But then, maybe electing Saddam will lead to = peace!) ------=_NextPart_000_0302_01C4F735.8714A120 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Jim=20 Follett
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005=20 15:42
Subject: Re: [BP] Bright = idea!
  In a message dated 1/10/2005 3:12:00 PM Eastern Standard = Time, [log in to unmask] = writes:
But, I'm not sure there's a lot of folks fighting = against=20 democracy. 
There sure are a lot of folks fighting=20 us.
.... for the folks who are = "fighting us",=20 not "democracy".  Take an IED/RPG vacation for a couple of = weeks - just=20 polish your mortar shells or something, or prevent your daughters = from going=20 to school.  Then, have an election without anyone getting = beheaded or=20 being required to form naked human pyramid.  Elect anyone by a = simple=20 majority, anyone: vegetarian, Vermonter, anyone. I think at = this point=20 we don't really care*. Then, even Bush/Rumsfeld will = leave!  =20 And Bush will get a third term -=20 cool!!!    I=20 put this next to sleeping with Roettwielers No, the rottwielers is more = appealing.
 
OK?        =20 Christopher
 
*(Caveat:  I guess that, = after all=20 this, we might conceivably stay if Saddam is elected.  But = then, maybe=20 electing Saddam will lead to peace!)=20
------=_NextPart_000_0302_01C4F735.8714A120-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:39:37 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Dying keyboard MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ah - Sean had this same problem last semester (also his 1st). We went on the last day to register because he had to do it in person being a frosh and we ended up with classes at 3 different campuses on every day of the week - that is, some days he would go to the main campus, other days he went to 2 other campuses, all about 20 miles apart from one another. I say "we" because son doesn't yet drive alone and the bus service here is quite limited. Thankfully, this semester, he registered on the 1st or 2nd day available, got one online class and all other classes on the main campus just on T's and R's, so "we" are much happier. We may even try the bus service this week or next for practice so mom can get a break and maybe find a paying job. Yours in co-misery. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Callan" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 16:27 Subject: Re: [BP] Dying keyboard > I advised him that registering for classes was not something a first > semester freshmen should put off to the last moment. I described some > of the probable consequences, without admitting that at one time or > another I had suffered them all. His mother agreed with me! And he of > course ignored us both. > > But, he did report that indeed, the classes he had wanted were with > one exception filled, and the classes he was able to get were all at > inconvenient times. And it was possible that I and been right, that > some of these problems could have been avoided if he had registered > earlier. > > But, that was last week. It was temporary. I have returned to my > natural state as a candidate for a full body condom. > > -jc > > > On Jan 10, 2005, at 3:16 PM, Pamela S. Follett wrote: > > > Was it something suitable for framing (or framing him with)? > > > > - Pam > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John Callan" <[log in to unmask]> > > To: <[log in to unmask]> > > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 09:12 > > Subject: Re: [BP] Dying keyboard > > > > > > Yesterday, he reluctantly informed me that I had > >> been correct about something. I'm was just so darned happy to hear > >> that! > >> > >> -jc > >> > >> > > > > -- > > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > > > > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:41:27 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Reply issues MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, if you'd said Photoshop before, I'da pointed to that, too. My husband's PC (still on Win98/NT) is the only one with Photoshop currently installed, and we have to turn off McAfee whenever using it because it will tend to lock up the PC just cuz it feels like it. - Pam PS - I see you took my advice to Ruth on how to clean the keyboard. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Callan" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 16:33 Subject: Re: [BP] Reply issues > Now Pam, us Mac folks do have a few viruses. We haven't been > completely ignored by the hackers. But, I keep my virus protection up > to date, and scan dailey. I don't think its a virus. And now that its > intermittent, I'm not even going to start to look for it. Its probably > some sort of combination of programs that are not playing nice with the > operating system when they are all loaded at the same time. I've been > useing PhotoShop a lot in the last few days, so I'm going to blame it > on Adobe, and Epson because my scanner is attached to the other > computer and I have to go over there and tell it to share the damn > thing every day, or I can't find it on the network. Grummmmmble > grumble grummmble hr;jsalfjdlaksjflfml. > > > On Jan 10, 2005, at 3:40 PM, Pamela S. Follett wrote: > > > Ahhhhhhhhhh - see, he didn't mention that part or I didn't read that > > part. > > So, my last email about the security tango site might not make a twit > > of > > difference to him. > > > > - Pam > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dan Becker" <[log in to unmask]> > > To: <[log in to unmask]> > > Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 21:40 > > Subject: Re: [BP] Reply issues > > > > > >> At 9:18 AM -0500 1/7/05, Pamela S. Follett wrote: > >>> > >>> upgrade have a tendency > >>> to upgrade shared components so I was figuring on either a change in > >>> options or maybe a new version of a dll wass waiting for you to > > reboot. - > >>> Pam > >> > >> Except that John's on a Mac platform and doesn't use dll's. > >> > >> D. > >> > >> -- > >> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > >> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > >> > >> > > > > -- > > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > > > > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:42:11 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: NJ Man Facing Charges in Abuse of Dog MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oh, maybe it was alway 22 minutes - 30 was seeming a bit much. Be there in a NJ minute. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 16:43 Subject: Re: [BP] NJ Man Facing Charges in Abuse of Dog > Now it's "you give us 22 minutes, we'll give you the world." I'm not sure whether thats better or worse than 30 minutes. > > Only in New Jersey. > > Ralph > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:31:49 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: further on the tannenbaum... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105399908" -------------------------------1105399908 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/10/2005 11:56:03 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: No, no, no Ralphie Boy - part of the ceremony is seeing how far the tree can be flung. With a small front yard, it generally doesn't make it to the sidewalk... I don't see why you can't hit the sidewalk, unless some tree-pitcher is awfully limp-wristed. But I still think you shouln't be throwing shit out the window without a sidewalk bridge. But that's New York. Sodomizing dogs is WAY more refined and dignified. Ralph -------------------------------1105399908 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/10/2005 11:56:03 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>
No, no, no Ralphie Boy - part of the ceremony is seeing how far the t= ree=20 can be flung. With a small front yard, it generally doesn't make it to the= =20 sidewalk...
 
I don't see why you can't hit the sidewalk, unless some tree-pitcher is= =20 awfully limp-wristed.
 
But I still think you shouln't be throwing shit out the window without=20= a=20 sidewalk bridge. But that's New York.  Sodomizing dogs is WAY more= =20 refined and dignified.
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1105399908-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:34:11 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Pols Behind the Curtain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105400051" -------------------------------1105400051 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/10/2005 1:12:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Upcuming as in vertical. Apperently he's the only one engaged. I thought he was married. Isn't think gonna be sort of a problem in those blue states? Or as long as he does it, is it OK? Ralph -jc On Jan 10, 2005, at 10:56 AM, Met History wrote: > In a message dated 1/10/1492, [log in to unmask] writes: > Bush just now live on TV called the upcomming election in Iraq an > erection. ][< > so if it's still upcoming, that means no one has gotten screwed yet? c -------------------------------1105400051 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/10/2005 1:12:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>Upcuming=20 as in vertical.  Apperently he's the only one engaged.
I=20 thought he was married.  Isn't think gonna be sort of a problem in th= ose=20 blue states?  Or as long as he does it, is it=20 OK?
Ralph
-jc

On Jan 10, 2005, at 10:= 56 AM, Met=20 History wrote:

> In a message dated 1/10/1492, [log in to unmask] NET=20 writes:
> Bush just now live on TV called the upcomming election in Ir= aq=20 an
> erection.  ][<
> so if it's still upcoming, that m= eans=20 no one has gotten screwed yet?  c

 
-------------------------------1105400051-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:36:12 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: I guess it's sort of a red state thing.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105400172" -------------------------------1105400172 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/10/2005 1:44:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: I knew I was doing this wrong. Why do you think I spend so much time answering my email? Then there's the lousy way I type. Ralph In a message dated 1/9/2005 10:01:45 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Watch it snow, knit and read e-mail, of course. What did you think, that I played music, danced and scratched my crotch while wearing red clothes? Ruth Red clothes? The rest of us wear no clothes while reading email. Ralph -------------------------------1105400172 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/10/2005 1:44:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>
I knew I was doing this=20 wrong.
Why do you think I spend so much time answering my email? = =20 Then there's the lousy way I type.
Ralph
 
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>
In a message dated 1/9/2005 10:01:45 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
Watch it snow, kn= it and=20 read e-mail, of course.  What did you think, that I
played mus= ic,=20 danced and scratched my crotch while wearing red=20 clothes?
Ruth
Red clothes?  The rest of us wear no clothes while rea= ding=20 email.
 
Ralph
 
-------------------------------1105400172-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:38:12 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BULK] Re: [BP] music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105400292" -------------------------------1105400292 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/10/2005 2:19:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Just goes to show you, Texans aren't as dumb as you think, we trucked him off to DC, we still have that clause in the state charter regarding succession, what as a republic and all, things get to hot, adios my friend, he's your problem. Thanks. Very kind of you. Ralph -------------------------------1105400292 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/10/2005 2:19:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2> Just goes t= o show=20 you, Texans aren't as dumb as you think, we trucked him off to DC, we stil= l=20 have that clause in the state charter regarding succession, what as a repu= blic=20 and all, things get to hot, adios my friend, he's your=20 problem. 
Thanks.  Very kind of you.
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1105400292-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:43:19 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BULK] Re: [BP] music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105400599" -------------------------------1105400599 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/10/2005 3:29:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Is there a special crown for Ruth's distinguished position? Absolutely. We'll just have to figure out what it is. Ralph -------------------------------1105400599 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/10/2005 3:29:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>
Is there a special crown for Ruth's distinguished=20 position?
Absolutely.  We'll just have to figure out what it is.
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1105400599-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:46:15 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [BULK] Re: [BP] music in life In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Pamela S. Follett wrote: > Dear brother - > > You may not be spending too much time in the sun, but you've > definitely spent too much time being an electron routing coordinator. > Excuse me - a LICENSED electron routing coordinator. Maybe Mr. > Science can study the plausibility of your theory. > > - Pam > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Jim Follett > *To:* [log in to unmask] > > *Sent:* Friday, January 07, 2005 12:27 > *Subject:* Re: [BP] [BULK] Re: [BP] music in life > > As a side note, I have a theory regarding the "trailer bait" > aspect of mobiles homes. First not all tornadoes hit trailers or > trailer parks. But we all know that a lot of trailer parks get > hit, especially due north of us, in the alley. All tornadoes have > an extremely high electrical charge, my thought is since trailer > parks have a large concentration of ferrous metal, there is a > possibility of large amounts of oppositely charged particles (to > the tornadoes) or possible slight magnetic field disruptions > causing a release in the air of these particles, causing the > apparent attraction,....... after you all get through laughing, > give it some thought, and no I do not spend a lot of time standing > out in the sun. > Well I'm off to spread some more politely incorrect statements to > the locals. Not everything, and everyone down here is red. > > Jim > I suspect there may be validity to the concentrated accumulation of surface metals as an attractant to tornadoes as well as lightning. ][< -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:53:16 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: somebody tell osha about this...to say nothing of the guy in ... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105401196" -------------------------------1105401196 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/10/2005 3:31:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: I checked the article, and see that the Consumers Reports spoilsports test method involved inflating the condoms to failure, using somewhere between 25-37 liters of air. Hell of a blow job. Talk about the whole nine yards.... They noted that some of the ones given away by Planned Parenthood weren't so great, and some particular brand (the name of which was neither memorable, nor was the product appropriate) were shall we say larger in diameter than certain persons might require. Ralph - Pam Pam, Maybe it's 'cause you're married to a Brit, or 'cause you're from upstate, but there seems to be something you don't fully understand about the blow job process. Ralph -------------------------------1105401196 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/10/2005 3:31:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>
I checked the article, and see that the Consumers Reports spoilsports= =20 test method involved inflating the condoms to failure, using somewher= e=20 between 25-37 liters of air.  Hell of a blow job.&nb= sp;=20 Talk about the whole nine yards....   They noted that some of th= e=20 ones given away by Planned Parenthood weren't so great, and some particula= r=20 brand (the name of which was neither memorable, nor was the product=20 appropriate) were shall we say larger in diameter than certain persons mig= ht=20 require. 
 
Ralph - Pam
Pam,
 
Maybe it's 'cause you're married to a Brit, or 'cause you're fr= om=20 upstate, but there seems to be something you don't fully understand abo= ut=20 the blow job process.
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1105401196-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:55:28 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [BULK] Re: [BP] music in life In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0077_01C4F73D.91931DE0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0077_01C4F73D.91931DE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Maybe it needs a picture on it of Ms. Spears next to the common laundry facility. -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of [log in to unmask] Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 5:43 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BP] [BULK] Re: [BP] music in life Importance: Low In a message dated 1/10/2005 3:29:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Is there a special crown for Ruth's distinguished position? Absolutely. We'll just have to figure out what it is. Ralph ------=_NextPart_000_0077_01C4F73D.91931DE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Maybe it needs a picture on = it of Ms.=20 Spears next to the common laundry facility.
-----Original Message-----
From: Pre-patinated = plastic=20 gumby block w/ coin slot=20 [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of=20 [log in to unmask]
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 5:43=20 PM
To: = [log in to unmask]
Subject:=20 Re: [BP] [BULK] Re: [BP] music in life
Importance:=20 Low

In a message dated 1/10/2005 3:29:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
Is there a special crown for Ruth's distinguished=20 position?
Absolutely.  We'll just have to figure out what it is.
 
Ralph
------=_NextPart_000_0077_01C4F73D.91931DE0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:57:57 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Bright idea! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105401477" -------------------------------1105401477 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/10/2005 3:46:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: And Bush will get a third term - cool!!! I put this next to sleeping with Roettwielers I think you have it backwards, Jim. (What is it about you Folletts and your understanding of sexual activity?) He wasn't sleeping, and he liked it. SHE didn't like it, however. Ralph -------------------------------1105401477 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/10/2005 3:46:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D3>And Bush will get a third term -=20 cool!!!    I=20 put this next to sleeping with=20 Roettwielers 
I think you have it backwards, Jim.  (What is it about you Follett= s=20 and your understanding of  sexual activity?)
 
He wasn't sleeping, and he liked it.  SHE didn't like it,=20 however.
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1105401477-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:00:10 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Reply issues MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105401610" -------------------------------1105401610 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/10/2005 4:02:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: As in, before you read the right woid? Me, too. I was wondering if jc was living next to a moyle (sp?). - Pam You got the pronunciation right-- but it's spelled "mohel." Ralph -------------------------------1105401610 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/10/2005 4:02:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>As in,=20 before you read the right woid?  Me, too.  I was wondering if jc= =20 was
living next to a moyle (sp?).

- Pam
<= /DIV>
You got the pronunciation right-- but it's spelled "mohel."
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1105401610-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:02:48 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Reply issues MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105401768" -------------------------------1105401768 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/10/2005 4:12:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: No, no moyles in this neighborhood! Just a bunch of neo-pinkos. And I didn't write anything circumscribed. I am circumspect at times, but not circumscribed. And the work of the moyle is not something I wish to discuss. But once we convince Ralph to get a webcam, we can inspect and discuss all you want. I have one (actually a couple of them, from The Mall) but not connected. The mohel's been here already-- all 3 of my sons got done in the parlor, on a table they now use for playing poker. Ralph -------------------------------1105401768 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/10/2005 4:12:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>No, no=20 moyles in this neighborhood!  Just a bunch of neo-pinkos.

And=20= I=20 didn't write anything circumscribed.  I am circumspect at times,
b= ut=20 not circumscribed.  And the work of the moyle is not something I
w= ish=20 to discuss.  But once we convince Ralph to get a webcam, we=20 can
inspect and discuss all you want.

I have one (actually a couple of them,=20 from The Mall) but not connected.  The mohel's been= =20 here already-- all 3 of my sons got done in the parlor, on a table they now=20= use=20 for playing poker.
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1105401768-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:03:47 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: somebody tell osha about this...to say nothing of the guy in ... In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT [log in to unmask] wrote: > *Maybe it's 'cause you're married to a Brit, or 'cause you're from > upstate, but there seems to be something you don't fully understand > about the blow job process.* > ** Yeah, well... she probably has a good grasp on the election process. A bit more than we can say for some of our elected leaders. And note... everyone... the White House now has a new dog. ][< -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:05:22 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: I guess it's sort of a red state thing.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105401922" -------------------------------1105401922 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/10/2005 4:28:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Sounds like a personal problem. How could something that's so much fun be a problem? Ralph Watch it snow, knit and read e-mail, of course. What did you think, that I played music, danced and scratched my crotch while wearing red clothes? Ruth Red clothes? The rest of us wear no clothes while reading email. Ralph -------------------------------1105401922 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/10/2005 4:28:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>
Sounds like a personal problem.
How could something that's so much fun be a=20 problem?
Ralph
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>
Watch=20 it snow, knit and read e-mail, of course.  What did you think, that= =20 I
played music, danced and scratched my crotch while wearing red=20 clothes?
Ruth
Red clothes?  The rest of us wear no clothes while rea= ding=20 email.
 
Ralph
 
-------------------------------1105401922-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:10:30 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: NJ Man Facing Charges in Abuse of Dog MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105402230" -------------------------------1105402230 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/10/2005 5:29:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Oh, maybe it was alway 22 minutes - 30 was seeming a bit much. Be there in a NJ minute. Bring your own dog. Or cat, as you prefer. Ralph -------------------------------1105402230 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/10/2005 5:29:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>Oh,=20 maybe it was alway 22 minutes - 30 was seeming a bit much.  Be there=20 in
a NJ minute.
Bring your own dog.  Or cat, as you prefer.
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1105402230-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:08:42 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BULK] Re: [BP] music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105402122" -------------------------------1105402122 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/10/2005 4:42:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: I'm going to let a sleeping dog lie. Obviously, Mr. Perth Amboy didn't. - Pam Although it may have been lying, the dog wasn't sleeping. Not that I know from personal experience, you understand. Ralph -------------------------------1105402122 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/10/2005 4:42:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>
 I'm going t= o let a=20 sleeping dog lie. 
 
Obviously, Mr. Perth Amboy didn't. -= =20 Pam
Although it may have been lying, the dog wasn't sleeping.  Not tha= t I=20 know from personal experience, you understand.
Ralph 
<= /SPAN> 
 
-------------------------------1105402122-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:12:51 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [BULK] Re: [BP] Bright idea! In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008D_01C4F73F.FFBEA120" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_008D_01C4F73F.FFBEA120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ralph, I was just trying to be discrete about a non-discrete item, so it's cool to be with the dog, but the third term is taboo, right? By the way, my neighbors own Rotties, I don't think they need to know about this guy.............. Confused On the Gulf -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of [log in to unmask] Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 5:58 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [BULK] Re: [BP] Bright idea! Importance: Low In a message dated 1/10/2005 3:46:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: And Bush will get a third term - cool!!! I put this next to sleeping with Roettwielers I think you have it backwards, Jim. (What is it about you Folletts and your understanding of sexual activity?) He wasn't sleeping, and he liked it. SHE didn't like it, however. Ralph ------=_NextPart_000_008D_01C4F73F.FFBEA120 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ralph, I was just trying to be = discrete=20 about a non-discrete item, so it's cool to be with the dog, but the = third term=20 is taboo, right? By the way, my neighbors own Rotties, I don't = think they=20 need to know about this guy..............
 
Confused On the Gulf
-----Original Message-----
From: Pre-patinated = plastic=20 gumby block w/ coin slot=20 [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of=20 [log in to unmask]
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 5:58=20 PM
To: = [log in to unmask]
Subject:=20 [BULK] Re: [BP] Bright idea!
Importance:=20 Low

In a message dated 1/10/2005 3:46:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
And Bush will get a third term -=20 cool!!!    I=20 put this next to sleeping with=20 Roettwielers 
I think you have it backwards, Jim.  (What is it about you = Folletts=20 and your understanding of  sexual activity?)
 
He wasn't sleeping, and he liked it.  SHE didn't like it,=20 however.
 
Ralph
------=_NextPart_000_008D_01C4F73F.FFBEA120-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:15:35 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [BULK] Re: [BP] music in life In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ken: This wasn't a joke, I'd love to study the issue, lord knows we have enough centers of attraction, were just a little south of the high activity area. Franklin -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Gabriel Orgrease Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 5:46 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BP] [BULK] Re: [BP] music in life Pamela S. Follett wrote: > Dear brother - > > You may not be spending too much time in the sun, but you've > definitely spent too much time being an electron routing coordinator. > Excuse me - a LICENSED electron routing coordinator. Maybe Mr. > Science can study the plausibility of your theory. > > - Pam > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Jim Follett > *To:* [log in to unmask] > > *Sent:* Friday, January 07, 2005 12:27 > *Subject:* Re: [BP] [BULK] Re: [BP] music in life > > As a side note, I have a theory regarding the "trailer bait" > aspect of mobiles homes. First not all tornadoes hit trailers or > trailer parks. But we all know that a lot of trailer parks get > hit, especially due north of us, in the alley. All tornadoes have > an extremely high electrical charge, my thought is since trailer > parks have a large concentration of ferrous metal, there is a > possibility of large amounts of oppositely charged particles (to > the tornadoes) or possible slight magnetic field disruptions > causing a release in the air of these particles, causing the > apparent attraction,....... after you all get through laughing, > give it some thought, and no I do not spend a lot of time standing > out in the sun. > Well I'm off to spread some more politely incorrect statements to > the locals. Not everything, and everyone down here is red. > > Jim > I suspect there may be validity to the concentrated accumulation of surface metals as an attractant to tornadoes as well as lightning. ][< -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:16:21 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: somebody tell osha about this...to say nothing of the guy in ... In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I hope it's not a Rotwieler -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Gabriel Orgrease Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 6:04 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BP] somebody tell osha about this...to say nothing of the guy in ... [log in to unmask] wrote: > *Maybe it's 'cause you're married to a Brit, or 'cause you're from > upstate, but there seems to be something you don't fully understand > about the blow job process.* > ** Yeah, well... she probably has a good grasp on the election process. A bit more than we can say for some of our elected leaders. And note... everyone... the White House now has a new dog. ][< -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:23:01 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: somebody tell osha about this...to say nothing of the guy in ... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105402981" -------------------------------1105402981 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/10/2005 7:04:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Yeah, well... she probably has a good grasp on the election process. A bit more than we can say for some of our elected leaders. And note... everyone... the White House now has a new dog. A little one. Not a Rottweiler. Need I say more? Ralph -------------------------------1105402981 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/10/2005 7:04:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>Yeah,=20 well... she probably has a good grasp on the election process.
A bit mo= re=20 than we can say for some of our elected leaders.
And note... everyone..= .=20 the White House now has a new dog.
A little one.  Not a Rottweiler.  Need I say more?
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1105402981-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:24:41 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BULK] Re: [BP] Bright idea! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105403081" -------------------------------1105403081 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/10/2005 7:14:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Ralph, I was just trying to be discrete about a non-discrete item, so it's cool to be with the dog, but the third term is taboo, right? By the way, my neighbors own Rotties, I don't think they need to know about this guy...........All the more reason to tell them. Besides, it's Texas....it's not as if they're likely to own guns or anything. Confused On the Gulf Don't tell your neighbors about THAT. Ralph -------------------------------1105403081 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/10/2005 7:14:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>
Ralph, I was just trying to be discr= ete=20 about a non-discrete item, so it's cool to be with the dog, but the third=20= term=20 is taboo, right? By the way, my neighbors own Rotties, I don't think=20= they=20 need to know about this guy...........All the more reason to tell=20 them.  Besides, it's Texas....it's not as if they're likely to own gu= ns=20 or anything.
 
Confused On the Gulf  D= on't=20 tell your neighbors about THAT.
Ralph
<= /SPAN> 
 
-------------------------------1105403081-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 07:53:00 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: somebody tell osha about this...to say nothing of the guy in ... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0032_01C4F7B2.927D2190" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C4F7B2.927D2190 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 18:53 Subject: Re: [BP] somebody tell osha about this...to say nothing of = the guy in ... In a message dated 1/10/2005 3:31:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: I checked the article, and see that the Consumers Reports = spoilsports test method involved inflating the condoms to failure, using = somewhere between 25-37 liters of air. Hell of a blow job. Talk about = the whole nine yards.... They noted that some of the ones given away = by Planned Parenthood weren't so great, and some particular brand (the = name of which was neither memorable, nor was the product appropriate) = were shall we say larger in diameter than certain persons might require. = Ralph - Pam Pam, Maybe it's 'cause you're married to a Brit, or 'cause you're from = upstate, but there seems to be something you don't fully understand = about the blow job process. Ralph That's OK, Ralph. I won't ask you to clarify. Obviously, I wasn't = completely over my cold yesterday, so my brain wasn't in full gear. = Should I have called it a blow-up doll job? - Pam ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C4F7B2.927D2190 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]=20
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005=20 18:53
Subject: Re: [BP] somebody tell = osha=20 about this...to say nothing of the guy in ...

In a message dated 1/10/2005 3:31:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask]=20 writes:
I checked the article, and see that the Consumers Reports = spoilsports=20 test method involved inflating the condoms to failure, using = somewhere=20 between 25-37 liters of air.  Hell of a blow=20 job.  Talk about the whole nine yards....   = They=20 noted that some of the ones given away by Planned Parenthood weren't = so=20 great, and some particular brand (the name of which was neither = memorable,=20 nor was the product appropriate) were shall we say larger in = diameter than=20 certain persons might require. 
 
Ralph - Pam
Pam,
 
Maybe it's 'cause you're married to a Brit, or 'cause = you're from=20 upstate, but there seems to be something you don't fully = understand about=20 the blow job process.
 
Ralph
 
That's OK, Ralph.  I won't ask = you to=20 clarify.  Obviously, I wasn't completely over my cold yesterday, = so my=20 brain wasn't in full gear. Should I have called it a blow-up doll=20 job?
 
-=20 Pam
------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C4F7B2.927D2190-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 07:53:59 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Bright idea! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003E_01C4F7B2.B59AB1B0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01C4F7B2.B59AB1B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 18:57 Subject: Re: [BP] Bright idea! In a message dated 1/10/2005 3:46:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: And Bush will get a third term - cool!!! I put this next to = sleeping with Roettwielers=20 I think you have it backwards, Jim. (What is it about you Folletts = and your understanding of sexual activity?) At least you know all our = apples don't fall far from the tree. - Pam He wasn't sleeping, and he liked it. SHE didn't like it, however. Ralph ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01C4F7B2.B59AB1B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]=20
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005=20 18:57
Subject: Re: [BP] Bright = idea!

In a message dated 1/10/2005 3:46:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] = writes:
And Bush will get a third term -=20 cool!!!    I=20 put this next to sleeping with=20 Roettwielers 
I think you have it backwards, Jim.  (What is it about you = Folletts=20 and your understanding of  sexual activity?) At least=20 you know all our apples don't fall far from the tree. - = Pam
 
He wasn't sleeping, and he liked it.  SHE didn't like it,=20 however.
 
Ralph
------=_NextPart_000_003E_01C4F7B2.B59AB1B0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 07:54:32 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Reply issues MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0048_01C4F7B2.C9210400" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0048_01C4F7B2.C9210400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks. I always figured I didn't have the right spelling, but I knew = you'd get me the right one! ----- Original Message -----=20 From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 19:00 Subject: Re: [BP] Reply issues In a message dated 1/10/2005 4:02:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: As in, before you read the right woid? Me, too. I was wondering if = jc was living next to a moyle (sp?). - Pam You got the pronunciation right-- but it's spelled "mohel." Ralph ------=_NextPart_000_0048_01C4F7B2.C9210400 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks.  I always figured I didn't have the right spelling, = but I knew=20 you'd get me the right one!
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]=20
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005=20 19:00
Subject: Re: [BP] Reply = issues

In a message dated 1/10/2005 4:02:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask]=20 writes:
As in,=20 before you read the right woid?  Me, too.  I was wondering = if jc=20 was
living next to a moyle (sp?).

-=20 Pam
You got the pronunciation right-- but it's spelled "mohel."
 
Ralph
------=_NextPart_000_0048_01C4F7B2.C9210400-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 07:56:04 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Reply issues MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0052_01C4F7B2.FFDA6A40" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0052_01C4F7B2.FFDA6A40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 19:02 Subject: Re: [BP] Reply issues In a message dated 1/10/2005 4:12:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: No, no moyles in this neighborhood! Just a bunch of neo-pinkos. And I didn't write anything circumscribed. I am circumspect at = times, but not circumscribed. And the work of the moyle is not something I wish to discuss. But once we convince Ralph to get a webcam, we can inspect and discuss all you want. I have one (actually a couple of them, from The Mall) but not = connected. The mohel's been here already-- all 3 of my sons got done in = the parlor, on a table they now use for playing poker. It doesn't bring = back memories of their 8th day? I figured there was a special table = brought in for the ceremony. - Pam Ralph ------=_NextPart_000_0052_01C4F7B2.FFDA6A40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]=20
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005=20 19:02
Subject: Re: [BP] Reply = issues

In a message dated 1/10/2005 4:12:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] = writes:
No, no=20 moyles in this neighborhood!  Just a bunch of = neo-pinkos.

And I=20 didn't write anything circumscribed.  I am circumspect at = times,
but=20 not circumscribed.  And the work of the moyle is not something=20 I
wish to discuss.  But once we convince Ralph to get a = webcam, we=20 can
inspect and discuss all you = want.

I have one (actually a couple of them,=20 from The Mall) but not connected.  The = mohel's been=20 here already-- all 3 of my sons got done in the parlor, on a table = they now=20 use for playing poker.  It doesn't bring = back=20 memories of their 8th day?  I figured there was a special = table=20 brought in for the ceremony. - Pam
 
Ralph
------=_NextPart_000_0052_01C4F7B2.FFDA6A40-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 07:56:51 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: somebody tell osha about this...to say nothing of the guy in ... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005B_01C4F7B3.1C00D600" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005B_01C4F7B3.1C00D600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Gabriel Orgrease" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 19:03 Subject: Re: [BP] somebody tell osha about this...to say nothing of the = guy in ... > [log in to unmask] wrote: >=20 > > *Maybe it's 'cause you're married to a Brit, or 'cause you're from > > upstate, but there seems to be something you don't fully understand > > about the blow job process.* > > ** >=20 > Yeah, well... she probably has a good grasp on the election process. > A bit more than we can say for some of our elected leaders. > And note... everyone... the White House now has a new dog. You mean Bush got remarried or did Monica come back for a second term? >=20 > ][< >=20 > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > ------=_NextPart_000_005B_01C4F7B3.1C00D600 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gabriel Orgrease" <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 = 19:03
Subject: Re: [BP] somebody tell osha = about=20 this...to say nothing of the guy in ...

> [log in to unmask]=20 wrote:
>
> > *Maybe it's 'cause you're married to a = Brit, or=20 'cause you're from
> > upstate, but there seems to be something = you=20 don't fully understand
> > about the blow job process.*
> = >=20 **
>
> Yeah, well... she probably has a good grasp on the = election=20 process.
> A bit more than we can say for some of our elected=20 leaders.
> And note... everyone... the White House now has a new=20 dog.
 
You mean Bush got remarried or did = Monica come back=20 for a second term?

>
> ][<
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------=_NextPart_000_005B_01C4F7B3.1C00D600-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 07:58:30 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [BULK] Re: [BP] music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006B_01C4F7B3.56D71780" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006B_01C4F7B3.56D71780 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 19:08 Subject: Re: [BP] [BULK] Re: [BP] music in life In a message dated 1/10/2005 4:42:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: I'm going to let a sleeping dog lie.=20 Obviously, Mr. Perth Amboy didn't. - Pam Although it may have been lying, the dog wasn't sleeping. Not that I = know from personal experience, you understand. Ralph =20 Well, you'd have to figure that even if the dog had started out = sleeping, that didn't last too long. - Pam ------=_NextPart_000_006B_01C4F7B3.56D71780 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]=20
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005=20 19:08
Subject: Re: [BP] [BULK] Re: = [BP] music=20 in life

In a message dated 1/10/2005 4:42:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask]=20 writes:
 I'm = going to let=20 a sleeping dog lie. 
 
Obviously, Mr. Perth Amboy = didn't. -=20 Pam
Although it may have been lying, the dog wasn't sleeping.  = Not that=20 I know from personal experience, you understand.
Ralph 
 
Well, you'd have to figure that even if the = dog had=20 started out sleeping, that didn't last too long. -=20 Pam
------=_NextPart_000_006B_01C4F7B3.56D71780-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 08:00:00 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [BULK] Re: [BP] music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm willing to bet you could get a grant for the study. Of course, then it would end up on the news as one of those "Fleecing of America" stories, even if you were trying to come up with legitimate reasons why Tin Hotels shouldn't be made out of tin (or EIFS). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Follett" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 19:15 Subject: Re: [BP] [BULK] Re: [BP] music in life > Ken: > > This wasn't a joke, I'd love to study the issue, lord knows we have enough > centers of attraction, were just a little south of the high activity area. > > Franklin > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Gabriel > Orgrease > Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 5:46 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [BP] [BULK] Re: [BP] music in life > > > Pamela S. Follett wrote: > > > Dear brother - > > > > You may not be spending too much time in the sun, but you've > > definitely spent too much time being an electron routing coordinator. > > Excuse me - a LICENSED electron routing coordinator. Maybe Mr. > > Science can study the plausibility of your theory. > > > > - Pam > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Jim Follett > > *To:* [log in to unmask] > > > > *Sent:* Friday, January 07, 2005 12:27 > > *Subject:* Re: [BP] [BULK] Re: [BP] music in life > > > > As a side note, I have a theory regarding the "trailer bait" > > aspect of mobiles homes. First not all tornadoes hit trailers or > > trailer parks. But we all know that a lot of trailer parks get > > hit, especially due north of us, in the alley. All tornadoes have > > an extremely high electrical charge, my thought is since trailer > > parks have a large concentration of ferrous metal, there is a > > possibility of large amounts of oppositely charged particles (to > > the tornadoes) or possible slight magnetic field disruptions > > causing a release in the air of these particles, causing the > > apparent attraction,....... after you all get through laughing, > > give it some thought, and no I do not spend a lot of time standing > > out in the sun. > > Well I'm off to spread some more politely incorrect statements to > > the locals. Not everything, and everyone down here is red. > > > > Jim > > > I suspect there may be validity to the concentrated accumulation of > surface metals as an attractant to tornadoes as well as lightning. > > ][< > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 07:41:01 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Dying keyboard In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Patrick insists on learning about life the hard way. He's a lot like his old man that way. I'm just glad he only sat out one semester before deciding to go to school. The next painful lesson will be that you can get the same class at a suburban community college as you can at the urban community college, without dealing with rush hour traffic. That one's going to hurt. Because everyone knows that the suburbs are populated by homophobic, racist, neo-nazis and hyper-prosteltizing christian pink-o's; and the urban areas are populated by intellectuals, social progressives, artists, philosophers, chess players and punkpeople. Damn its a pain when the world turns out to be more complex than you thought. -jc On Jan 10, 2005, at 4:39 PM, Pamela S. Follett wrote: > Ah - Sean had this same problem last semester (also his 1st). We went > on > the last day to register because he had to do it in person being a > frosh and > we ended up with classes at 3 different campuses on every day of the > week - > that is, some days he would go to the main campus, other days he went > to 2 > other campuses, all about 20 miles apart from one another. I say "we" > because son doesn't yet drive alone and the bus service here is quite > limited. Thankfully, this semester, he registered on the 1st or 2nd > day > available, got one online class and all other classes on the main > campus > just on T's and R's, so "we" are much happier. We may even try the bus > service this week or next for practice so mom can get a break and > maybe find > a paying job. > > Yours in co-misery. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Callan" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 16:27 > Subject: Re: [BP] Dying keyboard > > >> I advised him that registering for classes was not something a first >> semester freshmen should put off to the last moment. I described some >> of the probable consequences, without admitting that at one time or >> another I had suffered them all. His mother agreed with me! And he >> of >> course ignored us both. >> >> But, he did report that indeed, the classes he had wanted were with >> one exception filled, and the classes he was able to get were all at >> inconvenient times. And it was possible that I and been right, that >> some of these problems could have been avoided if he had registered >> earlier. >> >> But, that was last week. It was temporary. I have returned to my >> natural state as a candidate for a full body condom. >> >> -jc >> >> >> On Jan 10, 2005, at 3:16 PM, Pamela S. Follett wrote: >> >>> Was it something suitable for framing (or framing him with)? >>> >>> - Pam >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "John Callan" <[log in to unmask]> >>> To: <[log in to unmask]> >>> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 09:12 >>> Subject: Re: [BP] Dying keyboard >>> >>> >>> Yesterday, he reluctantly informed me that I had >>>> been correct about something. I'm was just so darned happy to hear >>>> that! >>>> >>>> -jc >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the >>> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: >>> >>> >> >> -- >> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the >> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: >> >> > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:19:09 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: further on the tannenbaum... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105460349" -------------------------------1105460349 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/10/2005 6:32:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: I don't see why you can't hit the sidewalk, unless some tree-pitcher is awfully limp-wristed. Gimme a break - it's 14 ft to the sidewalk over a fence. Hard from the third floor to get the arc, and it has to clear a seven ft. forsythia just inside the fence. As for the dogs, when I was growing up in Joisey (south), cow tipping was as close as we got... VI -------------------------------1105460349 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/10/2005 6:32:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
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I don't see why you can't hit the sidewalk, unless some tree-pitcher=20= is=20 awfully limp-wristed.
Gimme a break - it's 14 ft to the sidewalk over a fence. Hard from the=20 third floor to get the arc, and it has to clear a seven ft. forsythia just=20 inside the fence.
 
As for the dogs, when I was growing up in Joisey (south), cow tipping w= as=20 as close as we got...
 
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-------------------------------1105460349-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 10:49:52 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: further on the tannenbaum... In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0020_01C4F7CB.47691FB0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C4F7CB.47691FB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Geez Bill, I'd hoped we had buried this story yesterday, cow tipping indeed. -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of [log in to unmask] Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 10:19 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BP] further on the tannenbaum... In a message dated 1/10/2005 6:32:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: I don't see why you can't hit the sidewalk, unless some tree-pitcher is awfully limp-wristed. Gimme a break - it's 14 ft to the sidewalk over a fence. Hard from the third floor to get the arc, and it has to clear a seven ft. forsythia just inside the fence. As for the dogs, when I was growing up in Joisey (south), cow tipping was as close as we got... VI ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C4F7CB.47691FB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Geez Bill, I'd hoped we had buried = this=20 story yesterday, cow tipping indeed.
-----Original Message-----
From: Pre-patinated = plastic=20 gumby block w/ coin slot=20 [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of=20 [log in to unmask]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 10:19=20 AM
To: = [log in to unmask]
Subject:=20 Re: [BP] further on the tannenbaum...

In a message dated 1/10/2005 6:32:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
I don't see why you can't hit the sidewalk, unless some = tree-pitcher is=20 awfully limp-wristed.
Gimme a break - it's 14 ft to the sidewalk over a fence. Hard = from the=20 third floor to get the arc, and it has to clear a seven ft. forsythia = just=20 inside the fence.
 
As for the dogs, when I was growing up in Joisey (south), cow = tipping was=20 as close as we got...
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C4F7CB.47691FB0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 13:33:45 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: live from nyc, real time 1:29 PM.... X-cc: [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105468425" -------------------------------1105468425 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ...there is a red tailed hawk, sitting right opposite my window, at 80th and Broadway, looking at me. it's on top of a streetlamp. it just eliminated. more developments later. this the coolest thing i have seen on this corner since a busload of japanese tourists pulled up ten years ago, and all took pictures of zabars. christopher ps "So, a red-tailed hawk walks into a bar and says...." -------------------------------1105468425 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
...there is a red tailed hawk, sitting r= ight opposite my window, at 80th and Broadway, looking at me.  it's on=20= top of a streetlamp.  it just eliminated.  more developments later= .
 
this the coolest thing i have seen on th= is corner since a busload of japanese tourists pulled up ten years ago, and=20= all took pictures of zabars.  
 
christopher
 
 
ps  "So, a red-tailed hawk walks in= to a bar and says...."
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...the more i look at it the faker it se= ems.  stated to be indonesia.  christopher
 
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me by a registered architect .... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105484176" -------------------------------1105484176 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Where's he registered? Faker than Ralph's Maine accent. VI -------------------------------1105484176 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Where's he registered?
 
Faker than Ralph's Maine accent.
 
VI
 -------------------------------1105484176-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 18:02:13 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: photo forwarded to me by a registered architect .... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105484533" -------------------------------1105484533 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/11/2005 5:56:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Where's he registered? This guy, a nice guy, excellent skier, this guy ... well, he was too cheap for a business telephone listing, so he got a residential telephone and told them his middle name was "Arch". Thus, his phone listing reads like a business listing "LastName, FirstName Arch[itect]". sincerely, These Fingers Are Made For Walkin' -------------------------------1105484533 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/11/2005 5:56:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, Twybil@A= OL.COM writes:
Where's he registered?
This guy, a nice guy, excellent skier, t= his guy ...  well, he was too cheap for a business telephone listi= ng, so he got a residential telephone and told them his middle name was "Arc= h".  Thus, his phone listing reads like a business listing "LastName, F= irstName Arch[itect]".
 
sincerely,   These Fingers Are= Made For Walkin'
 
-------------------------------1105484533-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:10:37 -0500 Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: ddiaz <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: photo forwarded to me by a registered architect .... In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------040301090602020701020608" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040301090602020701020608 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cheapo way to get an unlisted tel # is to set up an account and then inform that the listing is for- whomever Met History wrote: > In a message dated 1/11/2005 5:56:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, > [log in to unmask] writes: > > Where's he registered? > > This guy, a nice guy, excellent skier, this guy ... well, he was too > cheap for a business telephone listing, so he got a residential > telephone and told them his middle name was "Arch". Thus, his phone > listing reads like a business listing "LastName, FirstName Arch[itect]". > > sincerely, These Fingers Are Made For Walkin' > -- J.A. Drew Diaz EDGE Development Construction Suite 1205 150 W 28th St NY, NY 10001 t 212.741.7348 f 212.741.7423 c 917.971.1577 e [log in to unmask] w edgedc.com --------------040301090602020701020608 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cheapo way to get an unlisted tel # is to set up an account and then
inform that the listing is for- whomever

Met History wrote:
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In a message dated 1/11/2005 5:56:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
Where's he registered?
This guy, a nice guy, excellent skier, this guy ...  well, he was too cheap for a business telephone listing, so he got a residential telephone and told them his middle name was "Arch".  Thus, his phone listing reads like a business listing "LastName, FirstName Arch[itect]".
 
sincerely,   These Fingers Are Made For Walkin'
 

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J.A. Drew Diaz

EDGE Development Construction

Suite 1205

150 W 28th St

NY, NY 10001

 

t 212.741.7348

f 212.741.7423

c 917.971.1577

e [log in to unmask]

w edgedc.com

 

 

 

 

--------------040301090602020701020608-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:38:47 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: somebody tell osha about this...to say nothing of the guy in ... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105490327" -------------------------------1105490327 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/11/2005 7:40:42 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: That's OK, Ralph. I won't ask you to clarify. Obviously, I wasn't completely over my cold yesterday, so my brain wasn't in full gear. Should I have called it a blow-up doll job? - Pam With 37 liters of air inside, those would've made a lot of blow-up dolls very happy. Sort of a blow-up Ken for a blow-up Barbie, with the anatomical incorrectnesses corrected. Ralph -------------------------------1105490327 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/11/2005 7:40:42 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
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That's OK, Ralph.  I won't ask you= to=20 clarify.  Obviously, I wasn't completely over my cold yesterday, so m= y=20 brain wasn't in full gear. Should I have called it a blow-up doll=20 job?
 
-=20 Pam
With 37 liters of air inside, those would've made a lot of blow= -up=20 dolls very happy.  Sort of a blow-up Ken for a blow-up Barbie, wit= h=20 the anatomical incorrectnesses corrected.
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1105490327-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:43:05 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Reply issues MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105490585" -------------------------------1105490585 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/11/2005 7:41:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Thanks. I always figured I didn't have the right spelling, but I knew you'd get me the right one! For reasons unknown to me, my now-ex-father-in-law, who is plenty familiar with Yiddish, pronounces the word "mole." Who could figure. Of course, everybody knows that in addition to the mohel's fee, he gets tips. And in case you were wondering what happens to the leftovers from the bris, they're sent to Ireland, planted, and grow up to become Irish policemen. Ralph As in, before you read the right woid? Me, too. I was wondering if jc was living next to a moyle (sp?). - Pam You got the pronunciation right-- but it's spelled "mohel." Ralph -------------------------------1105490585 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/11/2005 7:41:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
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Thanks.  I always figured I didn't have the right spelling, but=20= I=20 knew you'd get me the right one!
For reasons unknown to me, my now-ex-father-in-law, who is plen= ty=20 familiar with Yiddish, pronounces the word "mole."  Who could=20 figure.
 
Of course, everybody knows that in addition to the mohel's fee,= he=20 gets tips. 
 
And in case you were wondering what happens to the leftove= rs=20 from the bris,  they're sent to Ireland, planted, and grow up to become= =20 Irish policemen.
 
Ralph
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As in,=20 before you read the right woid?  Me, too.  I was wondering if=20= jc=20 was
living next to a moyle (sp?).

- Pam
You got the pronunciation right-- but it's spelled "mohel."
 
Ralph
 
-------------------------------1105490585-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:47:09 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Reply issues MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105490829" -------------------------------1105490829 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/11/2005 7:44:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: And in case you were wondering what happens to the leftovers from the bris, they're sent to Ireland, planted, and grow up to become Irish policemen. Ralph so what do they do with the female correlative in Somalia? sign me, if you want to mutilate your penis, go ahead but why not wait until your 50s when it doesn't matter any more? -------------------------------1105490829 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/11/2005 7:44:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, RLWALTR@= AOL.COM writes:
And in case you were wondering what= happens to the leftovers from the bris,  they're sent to Ireland,= planted, and grow up to become Irish policemen.    Ralph
so what do they do with the female corre= lative in Somalia?
 
sign me,      i= f you want to mutilate your penis, go ahead but why not wait until your 50s=20= when it doesn't matter any more?
-------------------------------1105490829-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:53:23 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Moyley Carte MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105491203" -------------------------------1105491203 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/11/2005 7:42:59 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: all 3 of my sons got done in the parlor, on a table they now use for playing poker. It doesn't bring back memories of their 8th day? I figured there was a special table brought in for the ceremony. - Pam They don't remember it, which is one of the reasons it's done then. And I haven' told them what happened on that table, either. The Mohel, whose name in our case was Rabbi Chirnomas, although he made a big deal about how we had to provide a good solid table for him to work on, said that a card table would be just fine. Well, we didn't have a card table, and I didn't want to borrow a table for such an important Life Cycle Event, much less borrow one from The Towel Lady across the street, so I decided to use the round oak kitchen table I'd had for many years. Needless to say, there was some damn reason why it wasn't good enough for Rabbi Christmastree as he called himself, but we used it anyway. Nor did he just put the kid on the table and get out his saw. In the olden days, some male relative got to hold the kid, and that person is called the Sandek (hence the name of the author/artist Maurice Sendak). But nowadays the Sandek (who in our case was their grandfather, my then-father-in-law) hold a styrofoam board molded in the shape of a baby, with velcro straps, and there's NO movement. Glad you asked? Ralph -------------------------------1105491203 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/11/2005 7:42:59 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
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all 3 of my sons got done in the parlor, on a table they now use for=20 playing poker.  It doesn't bring back memories=20= of=20 their 8th day?  I figured there was a special table brought in f= or=20 the ceremony. - Pam
 
They don't remember it, which is one of the reasons it's done then.&nbs= p;=20 And I haven' told them what happened on that table, either.  The=20 Mohel,  whose name in our case was Rabbi Chirnomas, although he made a=20= big=20 deal about how we had to provide a good solid table for him to work on, said= =20 that a card table would be just fine.  Well, we didn't have a card tabl= e,=20 and I didn't want to borrow a table for such an important Life Cycle Event,=20= much=20 less borrow one from The Towel Lady across the street, so I decided to use t= he=20 round oak kitchen table I'd had for many years.  Needless to say, there= was=20 some damn reason why it wasn't good enough for Rabbi Christmastree as he cal= led=20 himself, but we used it anyway.
 
Nor did he just put the kid on the table and get out his saw. In the ol= den=20 days, some male relative got to hold the kid, and that person is called the=20 Sandek (hence the name of the author/artist Maurice Sendak).  But nowad= ays=20 the Sandek (who in our case was their grandfather, my then-father-in-la= w)=20 hold a styrofoam board molded in the shape of a baby, with velcro=20 straps, and there's NO movement.
 
Glad you asked?
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1105491203-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:57:23 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BULK] Re: [BP] music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105491443" -------------------------------1105491443 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/11/2005 7:45:06 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Well, you'd have to figure that even if the dog had started out sleeping, that didn't last too long. - Pam He coulda drugged little Precious, in addition to buggering her. One of the (many) things I don't get is how come the dog put up with getting cornholed. Unless of course she developed a dental problem in addition to her problems at the other end. BTW if you look up "Perth Amboy" and Dog Sexual Abuse on Google, there's a website from some animal rights group who has a list of court dates for various people who've done nasties to various 4 legged types, including our Dog Lover. Ralph (always trying to be helpful) -------------------------------1105491443 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/11/2005 7:45:06 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
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Well, you'd have to figure that even if the dog= had=20 started out sleeping, that didn't last too long. -=20 Pam
He coulda drugged little Precious, in addition to buggering=20 her.  One of the (many) things I don't get is how come the dog put up w= ith=20 getting cornholed.  Unless of course she developed a dental problem in=20 addition to her problems at the other end.
 
BTW if you look up "Perth Amboy" and Dog Sexual Abuse on Google= ,=20 there's a website from some animal rights group who has a list of court date= s=20 for various people who've done nasties to various 4 legged types, including=20= our=20 Dog Lover.
 
Ralph (always trying to be=20 helpful)
-------------------------------1105491443-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:59:38 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Dying keyboard MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105491578" -------------------------------1105491578 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/11/2005 8:41:18 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Patrick insists on learning about life the hard way. My theory is that you learn better that way than the easy way. Otherwise it's just book learning. He's a lot like his old man that way. I'm just glad he only sat out one semester before deciding to go to school. The next painful lesson will be that you can get the same class at a suburban community college as you can at the urban community college, without dealing with rush hour traffic. That one's going to hurt. Because everyone knows that the suburbs are populated by homophobic, racist, neo-nazis and hyper-prosteltizing christian pink-o's; and the urban areas are populated by intellectuals, social progressives, artists, philosophers, chess players and punkpeople. Damn its a pain when the world turns out to be more complex than you thought. Another lesson ya gotta learn the hard way. Ralph -------------------------------1105491578 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/11/2005 8:41:18 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>Patrick=20 insists on learning about life the hard way. My theory is tha= t=20 you learn better that way than the easy way.  Otherwise it's just boo= k=20 learning. He's a lot like
his old man that way.  I'm= =20 just glad he only sat out one semester
before deciding to go to=20 school.  The next painful lesson will be that
you can get the same= =20 class at a suburban community college as you can
at the urban community= =20 college, without dealing with rush hour traffic.
  That one's goin= g to=20 hurt.  Because everyone knows that the suburbs are
populated by=20 homophobic, racist, neo-nazis and hyper-prosteltizing
christian pink-o'= s;=20 and the urban areas are populated by intellectuals,
social progressives= ,=20 artists, philosophers, chess players and
punkpeople.  Damn its a p= ain=20 when the world turns out to be more
complex than you thought. =20 Another lesson ya gotta learn the hard=20 way.
Ralph
-------------------------------1105491578-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:02:08 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: further on the tannenbaum... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105491728" -------------------------------1105491728 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/11/2005 11:19:50 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: As for the dogs, when I was growing up in Joisey (south), cow tipping was as close as we got... That wouldn't have been close enough for this guy. Besides, it was just one dog. That we know of. Now. Ralph -------------------------------1105491728 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/11/2005 11:19:50 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>
As for the dogs, when I was growing up in Joisey (south), cow tipping= was=20 as close as we got...
 
That wouldn't have been close enough for this guy.
 
Besides, it was just one dog.  That we know of. =20 Now. 
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1105491728-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:04:09 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: live from nyc, real time 1:29 PM.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105491849" -------------------------------1105491849 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/11/2005 1:34:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: ...there is a red tailed hawk, sitting right opposite my window, at 80th and Broadway, looking at me. it's on top of a streetlamp. it just eliminated. more developments later. this the coolest thing i have seen on this corner since a busload of japanese tourists pulled up ten years ago, and all took pictures of zabars. christopher ps "So, a red-tailed hawk walks into a bar and says...." So didja go throw rocks at it and tell it to go back to Mary Tyler Moore where it belongs? Or is this a Son of Pale Male, welcome on the Upper West Side? Ralph -------------------------------1105491849 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/11/2005 1:34:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D3>
...there is a red tailed hawk, sitting= right=20 opposite my window, at 80th and Broadway, looking at me.  it's on top= of=20 a streetlamp.  it just eliminated.  more developments later.&nbs= p;=20
 
this the coolest thing i have seen on=20= this=20 corner since a busload of japanese tourists pulled up ten years ago, and a= ll=20 took pictures of zabars.  
 
christopher
 
 
ps  "So, a red-tailed hawk walks=20= into a=20 bar and says...."
 
So didja go throw rocks at it and tell it to go back to Mary Ty= ler=20 Moore where it belongs?  Or is this a Son of Pale Male, welcome on the=20 Upper West Side?

Ralph 
 
-------------------------------1105491849-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:04:59 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot [log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: photo forwarded to me by a registered architect .... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="part1_e6.6105f4ac.2f15d1bb_boundary" --part1_e6.6105f4ac.2f15d1bb_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="e6.6105f4ac_alt_bound" --e6.6105f4ac_alt_bound Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/11/2005 2:46:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: ...the more i look at it the faker it seems. stated to be indonesia. christopher I don't think so. Ralph --e6.6105f4ac_alt_bound Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/11/2005 2:46:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
...the more i look at it the faker it=20 seems.  stated to be indonesia.  christopher
 
I don't think so.
 
Ralph
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me by a registered architect .... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105494579" -------------------------------1105494579 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/11/2005 5:56:45 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Where's he registered? Faker than Ralph's Maine accent. VI Ayup. Fine as frog's hair. Ralph -------------------------------1105494579 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/11/2005 5:56:45 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
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Where's he registered?
 
Faker than Ralph's Maine accent.
 
VI
Ayup.  Fine as frog's hair.
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1105494579-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:50:41 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: photo forwarded to me by a registered architect .... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105494641" -------------------------------1105494641 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/11/2005 6:06:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: This guy, a nice guy, excellent skier, this guy ... well, he was too cheap for a business telephone listing, so he got a residential telephone and told them his middle name was "Arch". Thus, his phone listing reads like a business listing "LastName, FirstName Arch[itect]". sincerely, These Fingers Are Made For Walkin' Except for the skiing part, sounds like me. That, and the ability to do photoshop. Ralph -------------------------------1105494641 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/11/2005 6:06:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
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This guy, a nice guy, excellent skier,= this=20 guy ...  well, he was too cheap for a business telephone listing= , so=20 he got a residential telephone and told them his middle name was "Arch".&n= bsp;=20 Thus, his phone listing reads like a business listing "LastName, FirstName= =20 Arch[itect]".
 
sincerely,   These Fingers A= re=20 Made For Walkin'
Except for the skiing part, sounds like me.  That, and the= =20 ability to do photoshop.
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1105494641-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:55:32 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Reply issues MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105494932" -------------------------------1105494932 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/11/2005 7:48:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: so what do they do with the female correlative in Somalia? Send them to any number of those countries and they grow up to be Al Qaedas? sign me, if you want to mutilate your penis, go ahead but why not wait until your 50s when it doesn't matter any more? I forgot to mention the part about how the mohel is required to ask the father whether he wants to do the whack job, or whether he wants the mohel to do the wet work. There's a right answer to this question. Ralph -------------------------------1105494932 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/11/2005 7:48:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
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so what do they do with the female=20 correlative in Somalia? Send them to any number of those countries= and=20 they grow up to be Al Qaedas?
sign me,    &nbs= p; if=20 you want to mutilate your penis, go ahead but why not wait until your 50s wh= en=20 it doesn't matter any more?  I forgot to mention the part about= how=20 the mohel is required to ask the father  whether he wants to do the wha= ck=20 job, or whether he wants the mohel to do the wet work.  There's a right= =20 answer to this question.
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 -------------------------------1105494932-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:01:18 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: somebody tell osha about this...to say nothing of the guy in ... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_007A_01C4F88D.A92FB610" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_007A_01C4F88D.A92FB610 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That would work fine if Barbie was still dating Ken. Where were you = last year? Didn't you hear about the breakup of the century??? - Pam ----- Original Message -----=20 From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 19:38 Subject: Re: [BP] somebody tell osha about this...to say nothing of = the guy in ... In a message dated 1/11/2005 7:40:42 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: That's OK, Ralph. I won't ask you to clarify. Obviously, I wasn't = completely over my cold yesterday, so my brain wasn't in full gear. = Should I have called it a blow-up doll job? - Pam With 37 liters of air inside, those would've made a lot of blow-up = dolls very happy. Sort of a blow-up Ken for a blow-up Barbie, with the = anatomical incorrectnesses corrected. Ralph ------=_NextPart_000_007A_01C4F88D.A92FB610 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That would work fine if Barbie was still dating Ken.  Where = were you=20 last year?  Didn't you hear about the breakup of the = century???
 
- Pam
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To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 = 19:38
Subject: Re: [BP] somebody tell = osha=20 about this...to say nothing of the guy in ...

In a message dated 1/11/2005 7:40:42 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask]=20 writes:
That's OK, Ralph.  I won't = ask you to=20 clarify.  Obviously, I wasn't completely over my cold = yesterday, so my=20 brain wasn't in full gear. Should I have called it a blow-up doll=20 job?
 
-=20 Pam
With 37 liters of air inside, those would've made a lot = of=20 blow-up dolls very happy.  Sort of a blow-up Ken for a = blow-up=20 Barbie, with the anatomical incorrectnesses = corrected.
 
Ralph
------=_NextPart_000_007A_01C4F88D.A92FB610-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:51:47 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Bruce Marcham <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: photo forwarded to me by a registered architect .... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yup, fake. http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_tsunami_picture.htm From the link above: > Comments: Virtually everyone who has submitted this image for = authentication expressed disbelief, and small wonder. Given the enormity = of the actual event, this is a snapshot which, if real, would have = appeared on the front page of every major newspaper in the world by now. = But it hasn't. It is evidently the work of a prankster who combined two = entirely unrelated photographs into a striking, but bogus, montage.=20 In one version of the accompanying email the locale is specified as = Phuket, Thailand; in another, Indonesia. Neither is plausible, however, = because in both places vehicles are driven on the left side of the road, = not the right, as shown here.=20 Nor does the form and magnitude of this wave match eyewitness accounts = or authentic images of the tsunamis that actually struck parts of = Thailand, Indonesia and elsewhere in the Indian Ocean on December 26, = 2004. Those waves didn't crest at a height of twenty storeys and crash = down on the shoreline as depicted here. On the contrary, the waters were = described as rising swiftly and steadily to a maximum height of around = 10 meters (less, in most cases) as they swept relentlessly inland, = retreated, and swept inland again.=20 In short, the image above represents someone's fantasy of what a tsunami = looks like, not the real deal - as if the real deal and the devastation = it caused weren't fantastic enough in the first place.=20 > -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot = [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Met = History Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 2:46 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [BP] photo forwarded to me by a registered architect .... ...the more i look at it the faker it seems. stated to be indonesia. = christopher -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:06:52 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Reply issues MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0084_01C4F88E.70566090" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0084_01C4F88E.70566090 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 19:43 Subject: Re: [BP] Reply issues In a message dated 1/11/2005 7:41:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: Thanks. I always figured I didn't have the right spelling, but I = knew you'd get me the right one! For reasons unknown to me, my now-ex-father-in-law, who is plenty = familiar with Yiddish, pronounces the word "mole." Who could figure. Of course, everybody knows that in addition to the mohel's fee, he = gets tips. GROOOOOOOOOOOOOOAN! And in case you were wondering what happens to the leftovers from the = bris, they're sent to Ireland, planted, and grow up to become Irish = policemen. LOL!!! Ralph - Pam As in, before you read the right woid? Me, too. I was wondering = if jc was living next to a moyle (sp?). - Pam You got the pronunciation right-- but it's spelled "mohel." Ralph ------=_NextPart_000_0084_01C4F88E.70566090 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]=20
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 = 19:43
Subject: Re: [BP] Reply = issues

In a message dated 1/11/2005 7:41:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask]=20 writes:
Thanks.  I always figured I didn't have the right = spelling, but I=20 knew you'd get me the right one!
For reasons unknown to me, my now-ex-father-in-law, who = is plenty=20 familiar with Yiddish, pronounces the word "mole."  Who could=20 figure.
 
Of course, everybody knows that in addition to the = mohel's fee,=20 he gets tips. GROOOOOOOOOOOOOOAN!
 
And in case you were wondering what happens to the = leftovers=20 from the bris,  they're sent to Ireland, planted, and grow up to = become=20 Irish policemen. LOL!!!
 
Ralph - Pam
As=20 in, before you read the right woid?  Me, too.  I was = wondering=20 if jc was
living next to a moyle (sp?).

- = Pam
You got the pronunciation right-- but it's spelled = "mohel."
 
Ralph
 
------=_NextPart_000_0084_01C4F88E.70566090-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:07:46 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Reply issues MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008E_01C4F88E.909FC210" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_008E_01C4F88E.909FC210 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable They grow up to become guards at an all-female high-security prison??? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Met History=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 19:47 Subject: Re: [BP] Reply issues In a message dated 1/11/2005 7:44:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: And in case you were wondering what happens to the leftovers from = the bris, they're sent to Ireland, planted, and grow up to become Irish = policemen. Ralph so what do they do with the female correlative in Somalia?=20 sign me, if you want to mutilate your penis, go ahead but why not = wait until your 50s when it doesn't matter any more? ------=_NextPart_000_008E_01C4F88E.909FC210 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
They grow up to become guards at an all-female=20 high-security prison???
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 [log in to unmask] href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Met = History=20
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 = 19:47
Subject: Re: [BP] Reply = issues

In a message dated 1/11/2005 7:44:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
And in case you were = wondering what=20 happens to the leftovers from the bris,  they're sent to = Ireland,=20 planted, and grow up to become Irish policemen.   =20 Ralph
so what do they do with the female = correlative in Somalia?
 
sign = me,      if=20 you want to mutilate your penis, go ahead but why not wait until your = 50s when=20 it doesn't matter any more?
------=_NextPart_000_008E_01C4F88E.909FC210-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:09:07 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Moyley Carte MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0098_01C4F88E.C0E6EB60" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0098_01C4F88E.C0E6EB60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think I'm glad I've never been invited to a bris. - Pam ----- Original Message -----=20 From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 19:53 Subject: Re: [BP] Moyley Carte In a message dated 1/11/2005 7:42:59 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: all 3 of my sons got done in the parlor, on a table they now use for = playing poker. It doesn't bring back memories of their 8th day? I = figured there was a special table brought in for the ceremony. - Pam They don't remember it, which is one of the reasons it's done then. = And I haven' told them what happened on that table, either. The Mohel, = whose name in our case was Rabbi Chirnomas, although he made a big deal = about how we had to provide a good solid table for him to work on, said = that a card table would be just fine. Well, we didn't have a card = table, and I didn't want to borrow a table for such an important Life = Cycle Event, much less borrow one from The Towel Lady across the street, = so I decided to use the round oak kitchen table I'd had for many years. = Needless to say, there was some damn reason why it wasn't good enough = for Rabbi Christmastree as he called himself, but we used it anyway. Nor did he just put the kid on the table and get out his saw. In the = olden days, some male relative got to hold the kid, and that person is = called the Sandek (hence the name of the author/artist Maurice Sendak). = But nowadays the Sandek (who in our case was their grandfather, my = then-father-in-law) hold a styrofoam board molded in the shape of a = baby, with velcro straps, and there's NO movement.=20 Glad you asked? Ralph ------=_NextPart_000_0098_01C4F88E.C0E6EB60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I think I'm glad I've never been invited to a bris.
 
- Pam
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From:=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]=20
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 = 19:53
Subject: Re: [BP] Moyley = Carte

In a message dated 1/11/2005 7:42:59 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask]=20 writes:
all 3 of my sons got done in the parlor, on a table they now = use for=20 playing poker.  It doesn't bring back = memories of=20 their 8th day?  I figured there was a special table = brought in for=20 the ceremony. - Pam
 
They don't remember it, which is one of the reasons it's done = then. =20 And I haven' told them what happened on that table, either.  The=20 Mohel,  whose name in our case was Rabbi Chirnomas, although he = made a=20 big deal about how we had to provide a good solid table for him to = work on,=20 said that a card table would be just fine.  Well, we didn't have = a card=20 table, and I didn't want to borrow a table for such an important Life = Cycle=20 Event, much less borrow one from The Towel Lady across the street, so = I=20 decided to use the round oak kitchen table I'd had for many = years. =20 Needless to say, there was some damn reason why it wasn't good enough = for=20 Rabbi Christmastree as he called himself, but we used it anyway.
 
Nor did he just put the kid on the table and get out his saw. In = the=20 olden days, some male relative got to hold the kid, and that person is = called=20 the Sandek (hence the name of the author/artist Maurice Sendak).  = But=20 nowadays the Sandek (who in our case was their grandfather, my=20 then-father-in-law) hold a styrofoam board molded in the = shape of a=20 baby, with velcro straps, and there's NO movement.
 
Glad you asked?
 
Ralph
------=_NextPart_000_0098_01C4F88E.C0E6EB60-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:22:13 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Bruce Marcham <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Histo Presto Content MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C4F8BA.7E33CB9A" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4F8BA.7E33CB9A Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable At the risk of going way back to the early stages of this discussion: =20 Dan used the word "program" phase which made me remember the phase in = which I have little or no involvement in my role as staff engineer = except on smaller, largely mechanical, projects.=20 =20 Sorry for the flashback (I'm cleaning out a lot of old e-mails that have = built up since the first of the year). Speaking of flashbacks if I get = up the time and/or courage maybe I'll share my thoughts on "embedded = energy." -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot = [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Becker, = Dan Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 3:52 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BP] Histo Presto Content (Pulls out Larkin Soap Box and mounts it) =20 Program phase precedes schematic design phase (followed by design = development and construction documents). It is at the program phase of = the design project that problem definition, goals, objectives, = priorities, budgets, code analysis, design guidelines, etc. that Bruce = alludes to are sorted out. In theory the process of arriving at a = solution it is very linear; in practice, there is usually some two steps = forward, one step back going on until the end of the design development = phase, but supposedly the range of choices is narrowing as you proceed. = A lot of clients want to keep thinking about it after the schematic = design has been approved, and try to make substantive changes during the = design development phase, when you are supposed to be fixing (as in = solidifying and making tangible) the selected schematic design with hard = lines and outline specifications. Construction documents just make the = details clear, but you aren't supposed to be mucking around with = anything by that point. =20 Architectural school alluded to this process but provided little to no = practical experience in the reality of it, as one would expect. Even = more significantly, however, is that no sense was conveyed of how huge a = part of professional practice it really is. How to manage people and = provide professional services in the client's best interest, including = educating the client in the design process and the implication of their = decisions, is not a high priority item in most architectural = curriculums.=20 =20 You would be stunned at how many architects arrive upon my doorstep to = present working drawings for our design review process. I consider it = criminal professional malpractice. The commission should be providing = design review of well-developed schematics, so that the commission's = review can be incorporated into the design before it is "fixed" at the = design development phase. Instead, if the commission requires changes to = bring the proposal into conformance with the published design guidelines = (which the architect did not consult when preparing the design), the = architect bitches and moans and tells the client that "the hysterical = commission" is at fault for requiring the additional time and not = insignificant design fee necessary to revise the working drawings. All = because the designer mismanaged the process. =20 Thanks for pushing my button, =20 dan where theory and practice diverge becker -----Original Message----- From: John Callan [mailto:[log in to unmask]]=20 Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 3:21 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BP] Histo Presto Content Bruce,=20 I don't think we have a substantial disagreement. The definition of the = problem, and setting the parameters of the acceptable solutions, quickly = narrow the design direction and support any previous decisions (like the = selection of the architect, or if the project is necessary). The = schematics are not arbitrary flailings among random ideas, they are a = disciplined process of continuing to refine one's understanding of the = problem and the seeking of the elegant solution.=20 If one starts sketching a design without understanding if the problem is = by nature engineering, construction, financial, ego or that spooky new = age wisdom stuff, one isn't really addressing the client's needs. Not = that that should be a concern.=20 -jc=20 On Jan 5, 2005, at 1:37 PM, Bruce Marcham wrote:=20 John: This sounds like the sort of thing an engineer would be accused of = saying, that there is only one solution and if you can't afford it you = obviously don't understand it (and that is coming from an engineer). In = reality there is no one right answer if you open yourself up to = different viewpoints. True, not all solutions are equal but there might = be an ideal one from the aesthetic or historic preservation standpoint, = another from the engineering or energy efficiency standpoint, another = from the standpoint of maximizing financial payback (in the case of a = commercial building), another from the Feng Shui or traffic flow = standpoint, etc. Different issues or viewpoints have differing levels of = importance depending on a variety of circumstances. It is my impression = that it's the client's job to communicate what those circumstances are = (or the architect's to pull them out of the client) and the architect's = job to explain the ramifications of those circumstances on the design = solution to the client. I thought the schematic design phase is where the design options are = floated and the one the client selects, with the advice of his = professional consultants, is the one you (the architect, engineer, or = contractor) run with. I recognize that not all projects have a formal = schematic design phase but I would think that it is rare that a problem = is given to the design professional(s) and the next time the client = hears from them the contractor has his tools in hand, ready to start. = Some give and take usually takes place, right? Even if it is (in the = extreme) "I can hold some poly down with some nails and roofing tar for = $200 but it will probably leak in a week or I can do it up right for = $50000." Bruce -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot = [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of John = Callan Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 9:07 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BP] Histo Presto Content Ken,=20 The multiple choice approach is a myth. No designer can work that way. = Not all solutions are equal, and it makes no sense to invest time in = alternative mediocre solutions. So, to my knowledge, schools don't teach = a multiple choice approach, as such. However, since a studio full of = architecture students facing the same design problem will produce a wide = range of solutions, and most will receive a passing grade, it does sort = of look like a multiple choice approach. No, Architecture students are = taught to have a concept, vision, or some other gift that sets them = apart from mere mortals (ie. clients, the public, engineers and = contractors), so the challenge is to convince oneself and one's client = that the vision is deserving of a sacrifical offering in the form of = cash.=20 The client is almost always an amateur. The service should guide the = client through the design and construction process. Some bubbles get = burst along the way. At least that happens to my clients. They don't = teach that in school. Hell, no one talks about that.=20 -jc=20 On Jan 5, 2005, at 6:25 AM, Gabriel Orgrease wrote:=20 I'm curious though, to what=20 extent architectural schools teach that an architect's careers may be=20 devoted to working through multiple choices with ill informed amateurs?=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4F8BA.7E33CB9A Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
At the=20 risk of going way back to the early stages of this=20 discussion:
 
Dan=20 used the word "program" phase which made me remember the phase = in=20 which I have little or no involvement in my role as staff engineer = except on=20 smaller, largely mechanical, projects.
 
Sorry=20 for the flashback (I'm cleaning out a lot of old e-mails that have built = up=20 since the first of the year). Speaking of flashbacks if I get up the = time and/or=20 courage maybe I'll share my thoughts on "embedded = energy."
-----Original Message-----
From: Pre-patinated = plastic gumby=20 block w/ coin slot = [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On=20 Behalf Of Becker, Dan
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 = 3:52=20 PM
To: = [log in to unmask]
Subject:=20 Re: [BP] Histo Presto Content

(Pulls out Larkin Soap Box and mounts it)
 
Program phase precedes schematic design phase (followed by = design=20 development and construction documents). It is at the program = phase of=20 the design project that problem definition, goals, objectives,=20 priorities, budgets, code analysis, design guidelines, etc. that Bruce = alludes=20 to are sorted out. In theory the process of arriving at a solution it = is very=20 linear; in practice, there is usually some two steps forward, one step = back=20 going on until the end of the design development phase, but supposedly = the=20 range of choices is narrowing as you proceed. A lot of clients want to = keep=20 thinking about it after the schematic design has been approved, and = try to=20 make substantive changes during the design development phase, when you = are=20 supposed to be fixing (as in solidifying and making tangible) the = selected=20 schematic design with hard lines and outline specifications. = Construction=20 documents just make the details clear, but you aren't supposed to be = mucking=20 around with anything by that point.
 
Architectural school alluded to this process but provided = little to no=20 practical experience in the reality of it, as one would expect. Even = more=20 significantly, however, is that no sense was conveyed of how huge a = part of=20 professional practice it really is. How to manage people and provide=20 professional services in the client's best interest, including = educating the=20 client in the design process and the implication of their = decisions, is=20 not a high priority item in most architectural curriculums.=20
 
You=20 would be stunned at how many architects arrive upon my doorstep to = present=20 working drawings for our design review process. I consider it criminal = professional malpractice. The commission should be providing design = review of=20 well-developed schematics, so that the commission's review can be = incorporated=20 into the design before it is "fixed" at the design development phase. = Instead,=20 if the commission requires changes to bring the proposal into = conformance with=20 the published design guidelines (which the architect did not consult = when=20 preparing the design), the architect bitches and moans and tells the = client=20 that "the hysterical commission" is at fault for requiring the = additional time=20 and not insignificant design fee necessary to revise the working = drawings. All=20 because the designer mismanaged the process.
 
Thanks for pushing my button,
 
dan=20 where theory and practice diverge becker
-----Original Message-----
From: = John Callan=20 [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, = 2005=20 3:21 PM
To:=20 [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: = [BP] Histo=20 Presto Content

Bruce,

I don't think we have a substantial disagreement. The = definition of the=20 problem, and setting the parameters of the acceptable solutions, = quickly=20 narrow the design direction and support any previous decisions (like = the=20 selection of the architect, or if the project is necessary). The = schematics=20 are not arbitrary flailings among random ideas, they are a = disciplined=20 process of continuing to refine one's understanding of the problem = and the=20 seeking of the elegant solution.

If one starts sketching a design without understanding if the = problem=20 is by nature engineering, construction, financial, ego or that = spooky new=20 age wisdom stuff, one isn't really addressing the client's needs. = Not that=20 that should be a concern.

-jc

On Jan 5, 2005, at 1:37 PM, Bruce Marcham wrote:

John:

This sounds = like the=20 sort of thing an engineer would be accused of saying, that there = is only=20 one solution and if you can't afford it you obviously don't = understand it=20 (and that is coming from an engineer). In reality there is no = one=20 right answer if you open yourself up to different viewpoints. = True, not=20 all solutions are equal but there might be an ideal one from the = aesthetic=20 or historic preservation standpoint, another from the engineering = or=20 energy efficiency standpoint, another from the standpoint of = maximizing=20 financial payback (in the case of a commercial building), another = from the=20 Feng Shui or traffic flow standpoint, etc. Different issues = or=20 viewpoints have differing levels of = importance depending=20 on a variety of circumstances. It is my impression = that=20 it's the client's job to communicate what those circumstances are = (or the=20 architect's to pull them out of the client) and the architect's = job to=20 explain the ramifications of those circumstances on the design = solution to=20 the client.

I thought the = schematic=20 design phase is where the design options are floated and the one = the=20 client selects, with the advice of his professional = consultants, is=20 the one you (the architect, engineer, or contractor) run with. I = recognize=20 that not all projects have a formal schematic design phase but I = would=20 think that it is rare that a problem is given to the design=20 professional(s) and the next time the client hears from them the=20 contractor has his tools in hand, ready to start. Some give and = take=20 usually takes place, right? Even if it is (in the extreme) "I can = hold=20 some poly down with some nails and roofing tar for $200 but it = will=20 probably leak in a week or I can do it up right for=20 $50000."

Bruce

-----Original=20 Message-----

From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin = slot=20 [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of = John=20 Callan

Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 9:07=20 AM


Subject: Re: [BP] Histo Presto=20 Content




Ken,



The multiple choice approach is a myth. No designer can work = that=20 way. Not all solutions are equal, and it makes no sense to invest = time in=20 alternative mediocre solutions. So, to my knowledge, schools don't = teach a=20 multiple choice approach, as such. However, since a studio full of = architecture students facing the same design problem will produce = a wide=20 range of solutions, and most will receive a passing grade, it does = sort of=20 look like a multiple choice approach. No,=20 = Architecture=20 students are taught to have a concept, vision, or some other gift = that=20 sets them apart from mere mortals (ie. clients, the public, = engineers and=20 contractors), so the challenge is to convince oneself and one's = client=20 that the vision is deserving of a sacrifical offering in the form = of cash.=20



The client is almost always an amateur. The service should = guide the=20 client through the design and construction process. Some bubbles = get burst=20 along the way. At least that happens to my clients. They don't = teach that=20 in school. Hell, no one talks about that.



-jc




On Jan 5, 2005, at 6:25 AM, Gabriel Orgrease wrote:=20



I'm curious though, to what

extent architectural schools teach that an architect's = careers may be=20

devoted to working through multiple choices with ill informed = amateurs? =
------_=_NextPart_001_01C4F8BA.7E33CB9A-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:51:36 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: photo forwarded to me by a registered architect .... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There was an episode on CSI: Miami (which oringally caught my interest because one of the main characters looks like ][[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 09:51 Subject: Re: [BP] photo forwarded to me by a registered architect .... > Nor does the form and magnitude of this wave match eyewitness accounts or authentic images of the tsunamis that actually struck parts of Thailand, Indonesia and elsewhere in the Indian Ocean on December 26, 2004. Those waves didn't crest at a height of twenty storeys and crash down on the shoreline as depicted here. On the contrary, the waters were described as rising swiftly and steadily to a maximum height of around 10 meters (less, in most cases) as they swept relentlessly inland, retreated, and swept inland again. > > In short, the image above represents someone's fantasy of what a tsunami looks like, not the real deal - as if the real deal and the devastation it caused weren't fantastic enough in the first place. -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:18:01 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Becker, Dan" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Histo Presto Content MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > -----Original Message----- > From: Bruce Marcham [mailto:[log in to unmask]]=20 > Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 10:22 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [BP] Histo Presto Content >=20 >=20 > if I get up the time and/or courage=20 > maybe I'll share my thoughts on "embedded energy."=20 I'd welcome those thoughts. D. -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:59:49 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: somebody tell osha about this...to say nothing of the guy in ... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105570789" -------------------------------1105570789 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/12/2005 9:48:55 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: That would work fine if Barbie was still dating Ken. Where were you last year? Didn't you hear about the breakup of the century??? - Pam Last year's kind of a fog. Plus, a long time ago. I thought the breakup of the century was Brad and Jen. Or was it OJ and Nicole? Me and Mrs. Ralph? Ralph -------------------------------1105570789 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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That would work fine if Barbie was still dating Ken.  Where were= you=20 last year?  Didn't you hear about the breakup of the century???
 
- Pam
Last year's kind of a fog.  Plus, a long time ago.  I= =20 thought the breakup of the century was Brad and Jen.  Or was it OJ and=20 Nicole?
 
Me and Mrs. Ralph?
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1105570789-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:01:39 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Reply issues MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105570899" -------------------------------1105570899 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/12/2005 9:54:07 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Of course, everybody knows that in addition to the mohel's fee, he gets tips. GROOOOOOOOOOOOOOAN! And in case you were wondering what happens to the leftovers from the bris, they're sent to Ireland, planted, and grow up to become Irish policemen. LOL!!! Ralph - Pam In addition to not knowing anything about sex, evidently the Folletts don't know the world's oldest jokes, either. Ralph -------------------------------1105570899 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Of course, everybody knows that in addition to the mohel's fe= e,=20 he gets tips. GROOOOOOOOOOOOOOAN!
 
And in case you were wondering what happens to the lefto= vers=20 from the bris,  they're sent to Ireland, planted, and grow up to beco= me=20 Irish policemen. LOL!!!
 
Ralph -=20 Pam
In addition to not knowing anything about sex, evidently the=20 Folletts don't know the world's oldest jokes, either.
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1105570899-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:04:18 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Moyley Carte MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105571058" -------------------------------1105571058 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/12/2005 9:55:56 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: I think I'm glad I've never been invited to a bris. - Pam Add it to your list of blessings to count, next time around. On the other hand, it's an honor to be invited, and it's not a good thing to decline the invitation. At least, for Hebes. The rest of you can stay home eating pastrami with mayo on white bread. Ralph -------------------------------1105571058 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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I think I'm glad I've never been invited to a bris.
 
- Pam
Add it to your list of blessings to count, next time around.&nb= sp;=20 On the other hand, it's an honor to be invited, and it's not a good thing to= =20 decline the invitation.  At least, for Hebes. 
 
The rest of you can stay home eating pastrami with mayo on whit= e=20 bread.
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1105571058-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:05:05 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Histo Presto Content In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Becker, Dan wrote: >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Bruce Marcham [mailto:[log in to unmask]] >> >>if I get up the time and/or courage >>maybe I'll share my thoughts on "embedded energy." >> >> > >I'd welcome those thoughts. > >D. > > Me too. -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:45:31 -0800 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Cuyler Page <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Heritage Interpretation Services Subject: Re: music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ken, Recently you said something about desiring a Tibetan long horn for its sound effect. You might be able to get that effect architecturally. Last night on History Channel there was a very interesting program about the nature of sound at various stone age architectural sites. The premise being studied was that many places may have been created or modified architecturally to influence their soundscape and sonic effects. The program included playing of a Bronze Age horn,and that made me think of you. If this was an old repeat program you know of but I just never caught before, well, ho hum. But, if you didn't see it and are interested, I taped it and can send you a copy if you wish. As a musician/architect, the correlation between the architectural design, spacial and surface treatments and the resulting sonic effects was pretty intriguing, but then, I can't help being close to China. cp in musical bc -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 06:58:14 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105617494" -------------------------------1105617494 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/13/2005 3:48:28 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Last night on History Channel there was a very interesting program about the nature of sound at various stone age architectural sites. Cuyler, Yeah, well, last night on the Hitlery Channel I stumbled across the last 15 minutes of a show on quarries, and I thought THAT was really interesting. Anybody know where they give out applications to join the Dull Men's Club? Ralph -------------------------------1105617494 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/13/2005 3:48:28 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
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nature of sound at various stone age architectural=20 sites. 
Cuyler,
 
Yeah, well, last night on the Hitlery Channel I stumbled= =20 across the last 15 minutes of a show on quarries, and I thought THAT was rea= lly=20 interesting. 
 
Anybody know where they give out applications to join=20 the Dull Men's Club?
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1105617494-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 07:03:18 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: music in life In-Reply-To: <003d01c4f94c$5b04f9e0$092134d1@default> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Cuyler Page wrote: >Recently you said something about desiring a Tibetan long horn for its sound >effect. You might be able to get that effect architecturally. > >Last night on History Channel there was a very interesting program about the >nature of sound at various stone age architectural sites. > Cuyler, I did not see the program and would like to. VI recently sent me a CD of piobarieachd and I hooked up the shanty 'office' sound system HC gave me from the Mall and the little building was one hell of a celebration for several hours. A friend of ours, meaning of myself and a few BP'rs, in Poland was working on his Doctoral thesis having to do with the conservation/replication of heritage sounds. I'm not sure where he is with it, oddly his Doctoral work seems to be something you have to drag out of him and actually inquire to find out. I got the impression it had to do with the sounds of horse carts, more than of music, the ambient sounds of place in time. I'm curious. ][< PO Box 417 Mastic Beach, NY 11951 -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 07:26:48 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: somebody tell osha about this...to say nothing of the guy in ... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0034_01C4F941.3E160F00" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C4F941.3E160F00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Definitely the latter - I read about it in the Post. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 17:59 Subject: Re: [BP] somebody tell osha about this...to say nothing of = the guy in ... In a message dated 1/12/2005 9:48:55 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: That would work fine if Barbie was still dating Ken. Where were you = last year? Didn't you hear about the breakup of the century??? - Pam Last year's kind of a fog. Plus, a long time ago. I thought the = breakup of the century was Brad and Jen. Or was it OJ and Nicole? Me and Mrs. Ralph? Ralph ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C4F941.3E160F00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Definitely the latter - I read about it in the Post.
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In a message dated 1/12/2005 9:48:55 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask]=20 writes:
That would work fine if Barbie was still dating Ken.  = Where were=20 you last year?  Didn't you hear about the breakup of the=20 century???
 
- Pam
Last year's kind of a fog.  Plus, a long time = ago.  I=20 thought the breakup of the century was Brad and Jen.  Or was it = OJ and=20 Nicole?
 
Me and Mrs. Ralph?
 
Ralph
------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C4F941.3E160F00-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 07:29:50 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Moyley Carte MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0040_01C4F941.AAC6C400" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C4F941.AAC6C400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 18:04 Subject: Re: [BP] Moyley Carte In a message dated 1/12/2005 9:55:56 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: I think I'm glad I've never been invited to a bris. - Pam Add it to your list of blessings to count, next time around. On the = other hand, it's an honor to be invited, and it's not a good thing to = decline the invitation. At least, for Hebes. I had heard before it's an = honour, and being a non-Hebe might make it more so. Seems most of the = ones I knew socially in NY either already had sons or were giving birth = to girls. I don't generally socialize at all in Phelps, so I'm figuring = it'll be a while before the opportunity presents itself. The rest of you can stay home eating pastrami with mayo on white = bread. Yuck! At least give me credit for knowing how to eat pastrami - = and I think I know a good chicken soup when I see one, too. - Pam Ralph ------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C4F941.AAC6C400 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
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In a message dated 1/12/2005 9:55:56 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask]=20 writes:
I think I'm glad I've never been invited to a bris.
 
- Pam
Add it to your list of blessings to count, next time=20 around.  On the other hand, it's an honor to be invited, and it's = not a=20 good thing to decline the invitation.  At least, for = Hebes. I had heard before it's an honour, and being a = non-Hebe=20 might make it more so.  Seems most of the  ones I knew = socially in=20 NY either already had sons or were giving birth to girls.  I = don't=20 generally socialize at all in Phelps, so I'm figuring it'll be a while = before=20 the opportunity presents itself.
 
The rest of you can stay home eating pastrami with mayo = on white=20 bread.  Yuck!  At least give me credit = for=20 knowing how to eat pastrami - and I think I know a good chicken soup = when I=20 see one, too. - Pam
 
Ralph
------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C4F941.AAC6C400-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 07:33:04 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cp - Did you tape the FBI warning too for distributing copywritten material? We're gonna call the VCR police on you! Anyway, I'm a little confused. The Bronze Age horn - was there also a building that was shaped to give a similar sound or was it made to make the horn sound better? Maybe it's too early for me to make the connection. Of course, right about now, you're probably snug in your bed still sleeping off yesterday. Take a minute and shake out the cobwebs. - Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cuyler Page" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 03:45 Subject: Re: [BP] music in life > Ken, > Recently you said something about desiring a Tibetan long horn for its sound > effect. You might be able to get that effect architecturally. > > Last night on History Channel there was a very interesting program about the > nature of sound at various stone age architectural sites. The premise > being studied was that many places may have been created or modified > architecturally to influence their soundscape and sonic effects. The > program included playing of a Bronze Age horn,and that made me think of you. > If this was an old repeat program you know of but I just never caught > before, well, ho hum. But, if you didn't see it and are interested, I > taped it and can send you a copy if you wish. As a musician/architect, the > correlation between the architectural design, spacial and surface treatments > and the resulting sonic effects was pretty intriguing, but then, I can't > help being close to China. > > cp in musical bc > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 07:47:48 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: music in life In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT [log in to unmask] wrote: > In a message dated 1/13/2005 3:48:28 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > [log in to unmask] writes: > > Last night on History Channel there was a very interesting program > about the > nature of sound at various stone age architectural sites. > > *Cuyler,* > ** > *Yeah, well, last night on the Hitlery Channel _I _stumbled across the > last 15 minutes of a show on quarries, and I thought THAT was really > interesting. * > ** > *Anybody know where they give out applications to join the Dull Men's > Club?* > ** > *Ralph* Cripes... I want to see that one too! ][< -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:08:44 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What in god's name is "piobarieachd "? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gabriel Orgrease" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 07:03 Subject: Re: [BP] music in life > Cuyler Page wrote: > > >Recently you said something about desiring a Tibetan long horn for its sound > >effect. You might be able to get that effect architecturally. > > > >Last night on History Channel there was a very interesting program about the > >nature of sound at various stone age architectural sites. > > > Cuyler, > > I did not see the program and would like to. > VI recently sent me a CD of piobarieachd and I hooked up the shanty > 'office' sound system HC gave me from the Mall and the little building > was one hell of a celebration for several hours. > > A friend of ours, meaning of myself and a few BP'rs, in Poland was > working on his Doctoral thesis having to do with the > conservation/replication of heritage sounds. > I'm not sure where he is with it, oddly his Doctoral work seems to be > something you have to drag out of him and actually inquire to find out. > I got the impression it had to do with the sounds of horse carts, more > than of music, the ambient sounds of place in time. I'm curious. > > ][< > > PO Box 417 > Mastic Beach, NY 11951 > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:29:01 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: piobareachd In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Pamela S. Follett wrote: >What in god's name is "piobarieachd "? > > Damn, I spelled it wrong, piobareachd it is. Suggest you need to blast some in the Phelps coffee house. Very good for cleaning out the early morning cobwebs. ][< -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:07:38 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: piobareachd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OK, so I had still to go google it, since geez it doesn't look English to me. Thankfully, I was correct - Scottish. If I played babpipes in here, I'd probbably get lynched. Richard doesn't think much of Scots other than to include them as being British. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gabriel Orgrease" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 08:29 Subject: [BP] piobareachd > Pamela S. Follett wrote: > > >What in god's name is "piobarieachd "? > > > > > Damn, I spelled it wrong, piobareachd it is. > Suggest you need to blast some in the Phelps coffee house. > Very good for cleaning out the early morning cobwebs. > > ][< > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:13:38 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: piobareachd In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pam, Pam, Pam, I sure hope Sean Connery isn't tuned into this group. Richard does know you're a Rose doesn't he? Tunin' The Pipes -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Pamela S. Follett Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 8:08 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BP] piobareachd OK, so I had still to go google it, since geez it doesn't look English to me. Thankfully, I was correct - Scottish. If I played babpipes in here, I'd probbably get lynched. Richard doesn't think much of Scots other than to include them as being British. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gabriel Orgrease" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 08:29 Subject: [BP] piobareachd > Pamela S. Follett wrote: > > >What in god's name is "piobarieachd "? > > > > > Damn, I spelled it wrong, piobareachd it is. > Suggest you need to blast some in the Phelps coffee house. > Very good for cleaning out the early morning cobwebs. > > ][< > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:45:17 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: piobareachd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, he just thinks it's quaint how mom says she's "Scotch", but now catches herself saying it the proper way. Obviously, he's willing to make exceptions. He can even accept that Sean's named for an Irish John Wayne flick, and Jim's middle name is from Donovan's Reef (altho, I don't know if John Wayne was supposed to be Irish in that film). Maybe he figures he's in the minority here and had just have a stiff upper lip about it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Follett" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 09:13 Subject: Re: [BP] piobareachd > Pam, Pam, Pam, > > I sure hope Sean Connery isn't tuned into this group. Richard does know > you're a Rose doesn't he? > > Tunin' The Pipes > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Pamela S. > Follett > Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 8:08 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [BP] piobareachd > > > OK, so I had still to go google it, since geez it doesn't look English to > me. Thankfully, I was correct - Scottish. If I played babpipes in here, > I'd probbably get lynched. Richard doesn't think much of Scots other than > to include them as being British. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gabriel Orgrease" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 08:29 > Subject: [BP] piobareachd > > > > Pamela S. Follett wrote: > > > > >What in god's name is "piobarieachd "? > > > > > > > > Damn, I spelled it wrong, piobareachd it is. > > Suggest you need to blast some in the Phelps coffee house. > > Very good for cleaning out the early morning cobwebs. > > > > ][< > > > > -- > > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > > > > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:22:31 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Bruce Marcham <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C4F9A5.3A557DCA" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4F9A5.3A557DCA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ralph: =20 I'm a charter member of that club. I've been known to watch Down-State = (Orange County is "downstate" from up here) disfunctional families build = pretty stupid motorcycles ad nauseum (in part because they bought land = up our way, sometimes show their land on the show, and have already = caused a little bit of a ruckus in a local bar), caught a little bit of = Jesse James' chopper show last night, and half-watched the Turbo Twins = soup up a pair of Minis for lack of anything less productive to do. =20 I saw snippets of your quarry show thanks to the blasting that woke up = Debbie (I think I was studying the backs of my eyelids much of the time = too). I also watched the last half of the show about arched structures = (mostly bridges, steel, concrete and stone, dating back to an ancient = one in Rome--histo presto/masonry content). =20 In the quarry show I remember a quote that said something to the effect = of "aggregate appears in [some high percentage] of everything we use" or = maybe it was that it 'figures in the production of a high percentage of = what we use' (that's what happens when you're half-awake--you aren't = exactly sure of what you saw but in this case I'm sure they were telling = me that aggregate was almost as important as chemicals in my life). This = while a front end loader with multi-yard bucket dumped crushed stone. = Something about the way it was said gave me the image of it being in our = food too--yum.=20 =20 Speaking of high percentages of stone in our lives where I work we = recently had some "quartz vinyl floor tile" (manufactured by Rikett) = installed that purports to be a "high-performance heavy duty, = semi-flexible, 100% quartz reinforced vinyl tile" (it seemed to be = almost as flexible as regular vinyl tile). (I'm not sure what it means = to be a 100% quartz reinforced vinyl tile--as opposed to one that only = has the "quartz reinforcing" in part of the tile, like maybe just the = top layer?) The flooring company that does our carpet installations = offered it for free as a test (the area is only about 25 square feet in = our office kitchenette).=20 =20 I note that the synopsis of the Quarries episode of the Modern Marvels = program reads "Without rock, modern society wouldn't exist." (Reminds me = of what I think was an old Monsanto line that "without chemicals life as = we know couldn't exist.") Assuming they don't mean rock music that's = blaming a lot on an inert substance (okay, "inert" probably isn't a real = good word for rocks but it was the best I could do with my engineering = education). =20 Signed, No Coffee In My Life ZZZZZZZzzzzzzz =20 -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot = [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of = [log in to unmask] Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 6:58 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BP] music in life In a message dated 1/13/2005 3:48:28 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: Last night on History Channel there was a very interesting program about = the nature of sound at various stone age architectural sites.=20 Cuyler, =20 Yeah, well, last night on the Hitlery Channel I stumbled across the last = 15 minutes of a show on quarries, and I thought THAT was really = interesting. =20 =20 Anybody know where they give out applications to join the Dull Men's = Club? =20 Ralph ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4F9A5.3A557DCA Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ralph:
 
I'm a charter member of that club. = I've been=20 known to watch Down-State (Orange County is "downstate" from up here)=20 disfunctional families build pretty stupid motorcycles ad nauseum (in = part=20 because they bought land up our way, sometimes show their land on the = show, and=20 have already caused a little bit of a ruckus in a local = bar), caught a=20 little bit of Jesse James' chopper show last night, and half-watched the = Turbo=20 Twins soup up a pair of Minis for lack of anything less = productive to=20 do.
 
I saw snippets of your quarry show = thanks to=20 the blasting that woke up Debbie (I think I was studying the backs of my = eyelids much of the time too). I also watched the last half of the = show=20 about arched structures (mostly bridges, steel, concrete=20 and stone, dating back to an ancient one in Rome--histo = presto/masonry=20 content).
 
In the quarry show I remember a = quote that=20 said something to the effect of "aggregate appears in [some high = percentage] of=20 everything we use" or maybe it was that it 'figures in the production of = a high=20 percentage of what we use' (that's what happens when you're = half-awake--you=20 aren't exactly sure of what you saw but in this case I'm sure they were = telling=20 me that aggregate was almost as important as chemicals in my life). This = while a=20 front end loader with multi-yard bucket dumped crushed stone. Something = about=20 the way it was said gave me the image of it being in our food too--yum.=20
 
Speaking of high percentages of = stone in our=20 lives where I work we recently had some "quartz vinyl floor tile" = (manufactured=20 by Rikett) installed that purports to be a "high-performance heavy = duty,=20 semi-flexible, 100% quartz reinforced vinyl tile" (it seemed to be = almost as=20 flexible as regular vinyl tile). (I'm not sure what it means to be = a 100%=20 quartz reinforced vinyl tile--as opposed to one that only has the = "quartz=20 reinforcing" in part of the tile, like maybe just the top layer?) The = flooring=20 company that does our carpet installations offered it for free as a test = (the=20 area is only about 25 square feet in our office kitchenette). =
 
I note that the synopsis of the = Quarries=20 episode of the Modern Marvels program reads "Without rock, modern = society=20 wouldn't exist." (Reminds me of what I think was an old Monsanto line = that=20 "without chemicals life as we know couldn't exist.") Assuming they don't = mean=20 rock music that's blaming a lot on an inert substance (okay, "inert" = probably=20 isn't a real good word for rocks but it was the best I could do with my=20 engineering education).
 
Signed, No = Coffee In My=20 Life  ZZZZZZZzzzzzzz
 
-----Original=20 Message-----
From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin = slot=20 [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of=20 [log in to unmask]
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 6:58=20 AM
To: = [log in to unmask]
Subject:=20 Re: [BP] music in life

In a message dated 1/13/2005 3:48:28 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
Last night on = History=20 Channel there was a very interesting program about the
nature of = sound at=20 various stone age architectural = sites. 
Cuyler,
 
Yeah, well, last night on the Hitlery Channel I = stumbled=20 across the last 15 minutes of a show on quarries, and I thought THAT = was=20 really interesting. 
 
Anybody know where they give out applications to = join=20 the Dull Men's Club?
 
Ralph
------_=_NextPart_001_01C4F9A5.3A557DCA-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:10:26 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Moyley Carte MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105665026" -------------------------------1105665026 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/13/2005 7:16:28 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: I don't generally socialize at all in Phelps, so I'm figuring it'll be a while before the opportunity presents itself. I don't imagine there are a lot of brises to attend up there. The rest of you can stay home eating pastrami with mayo on white bread. Yuck! At least give me credit for knowing how to eat pastrami - and I think I know a good chicken soup when I see one, too. - Pam Far be it from me to be picky, but how does one tell a good chicken soup by sight? Ralph -------------------------------1105665026 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/13/2005 7:16:28 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>
I don't generally socialize at all in P= helps,=20 so I'm figuring it'll be a while before the opportunity presents itself. <= EM>I=20 don't imagine there are a lot of brises to attend up=20 there.
 
The rest of you can stay home eating pastrami with mayo on wh= ite=20 bread.  Yuck!  At least give me credit for= =20 knowing how to eat pastrami - and I think I know a good chicken soup when=20= I=20 see one, too. - Pam  Far be it from me to be picky, but how does=20= one=20 tell a good chicken soup by=20 sight?
 
Ralph
 
 
-------------------------------1105665026-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:11:22 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105665082" -------------------------------1105665082 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/13/2005 7:48:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: *Anybody know where they give out applications to join the Dull Men's > Club?* > ** > *Ralph* Cripes... I want to see that one too! I'll get two applications. Ralph -------------------------------1105665082 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/13/2005 7:48:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>*Anybody=20 know where they give out applications to join the Dull Men's
>=20 Club?*
> **
> *Ralph*

Cripes... I want to see that one=20 too!

I'll get two applications.
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1105665082-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:12:27 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: piobareachd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105665147" -------------------------------1105665147 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/13/2005 8:29:57 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Damn, I spelled it wrong, piobareachd it is. Suggest you need to blast some in the Phelps coffee house. Very good for cleaning out the early morning cobwebs. I'd stick with cobwebs if I were you, Pam. Ralph -------------------------------1105665147 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/13/2005 8:29:57 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>Damn, I=20 spelled it wrong, piobareachd it is.
Suggest you need to blast some in=20= the=20 Phelps coffee house.
Very good for cleaning out the early morning=20 cobwebs.

I'd stick with cobwebs if I were you, Pam. 
Ralph
-------------------------------1105665147-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:13:56 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: piobareachd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105665235" -------------------------------1105665235 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/13/2005 9:32:01 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Jim's middle name is from Donovan's Reef Sure it wasn't from Donovan's Brain? Ralph -------------------------------1105665235 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/13/2005 9:32:01 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>Jim's=20 middle name is from Donovan's Reef
Sure it wasn't from Donovan's Brain?
 
Ralph
 
-------------------------------1105665235-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:10:24 -0800 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Cuyler Page <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Heritage Interpretation Services Subject: Re: music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01C4F9CD.71DDF500" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C4F9CD.71DDF500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Did you tape the FBI warning too for distributing copywritten = material? > We're gonna call the VCR police on you! =20 Why do you think I am over the line, in Canada. Go ahead. Report me! = I'll just say a Mad Cow made me do it. > Anyway, I'm a little confused. The Bronze Age horn - was there also a > building that was shaped to give a similar sound or was it made to = make the > horn sound better? The chambers of the stone ceremonial structures appear to have been = adjusted to produce certain resonant standing wave frequencies. The = horn produced low pitches close to the typical frequencies. Very very = low pitches produce hallucinations, perhaps the whole point of it all. = Tune in your building and turn on your occupants, impress the = neighbours. cp ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C4F9CD.71DDF500 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> Did you tape the FBI warning too = for=20 distributing copywritten material?
> We're gonna call the VCR = police on=20 you!
 
Why do you think I am over the = line, in=20 Canada.   Go ahead.  Report me!   I'll = just say a=20 Mad Cow made me do it.

> Anyway, I'm a little = confused.  The=20 Bronze Age horn - was there also a
> building that was shaped to = give a=20 similar sound or was it made to make the
> horn sound = better?
 
The chambers of the stone = ceremonial=20 structures appear to have been adjusted to produce certain resonant = standing=20 wave frequencies.   The horn produced low pitches close to the = typical=20 frequencies.    Very very low pitches produce = hallucinations,=20 perhaps the whole point of it all.   Tune in your building and = turn on=20 your occupants, impress the neighbours.
 
cp
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C4F9CD.71DDF500-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 06:34:23 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105702462" -------------------------------1105702462 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/14/2005 4:10:27 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: The chambers of the stone ceremonial structures appear to have been adjusted to produce certain resonant standing wave frequencies. Giddadaheah. The Flintstones went around scraping their ceilings to make it sound like a Bose wave radio instead of an Atwater Kent? I don't think so. Ralph -------------------------------1105702462 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/14/2005 4:10:27 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>The chambers of the stone ceremonial structu= res=20 appear to have been adjusted to produce certain resonant standing wave=20 frequencies.  
Giddadaheah.  The Flintstones went around scraping their ceilings=20= to=20 make it sound like a Bose wave radio instead of an Atwater Kent? I don'= t=20 think so.
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1105702462-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 06:33:55 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: music in life In-Reply-To: <002901c4fa18$a16dc020$411ac2cf@default> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Cuyler Page wrote: > *The chambers of the stone ceremonial structures appear to have been > adjusted to produce certain resonant standing wave frequencies. The > horn produced low pitches close to the typical frequencies. Very > very low pitches produce hallucinations, perhaps the whole point of it > all. Tune in your building and turn on your occupants, impress the > neighbours.* cp, I like it. I've wondered for a long time about the ground thumping machines used for geophysical exploration with the idea of using them to compose music with. I think it would be most interesting to use say in connection with an earth sculpture or a composition of stone monoliths. Ultra-base. People walking the site would feel the composition, the changes in vibrations through their feet, but also through the aural experience as the stones vibrate. I don't see it as much different than say the vibrations put off by a subway train other than that they would be consciously produced to a pattern. I remember a story about Tesla attaching a device to a cast iron column in a building where he was experimenting and supposedly nearly vibrating the building down. I don't know what it would cost to get a ground thumping machine or where I would park it, or where I would find the time to compose with it. Possibly for several thousand I could pick up an old a pile driver. A long horn seems more likely to be within my reach. Otherwise I believe my musical endeavors will be conceptual pieces. ][< -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 06:48:50 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: music in life In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > *The chambers of the stone ceremonial structures appear to have > been adjusted to produce certain resonant standing wave > frequencies. * > > Giddadaheah. The Flintstones went around scraping their ceilings to > make it sound like a Bose wave radio instead of an Atwater Kent? I > don't think so. Ralph, This is pre-classical music... since you only listen to classical we will forgive you your specialization. ;-) ][< -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:05:10 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_007E_01C4FA0F.C49418F0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_007E_01C4FA0F.C49418F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In triplicate, I presume? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 20:11 Subject: Re: [BP] music in life In a message dated 1/13/2005 7:48:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: *Anybody know where they give out applications to join the Dull = Men's > Club?* > ** > *Ralph* Cripes... I want to see that one too! I'll get two applications. Ralph ------=_NextPart_000_007E_01C4FA0F.C49418F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In triplicate, I presume?
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Sent: Thursday, January 13, = 2005=20 20:11
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In a message dated 1/13/2005 7:48:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask]=20 writes:
*Anybody know where they give out applications to join the = Dull=20 Men's
> Club?*
> **
> *Ralph*

Cripes... I = want to=20 see that one too!

I'll get two applications.
 
Ralph
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With the jarhead, anything's possible.
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Sent: Thursday, January 13, = 2005=20 20:13
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In a message dated 1/13/2005 9:32:01 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask]=20 writes:
Jim's=20 middle name is from Donovan's Reef
Sure it wasn't from Donovan's Brain?
 
Ralph
 
------=_NextPart_000_008A_01C4FA0F.D6A72C30-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:08:29 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A0_01C4FA10.3B3200D0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A0_01C4FA10.3B3200D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Cuyler Page=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 03:10 Subject: Re: [BP] music in life > Did you tape the FBI warning too for distributing copywritten = material? > We're gonna call the VCR police on you! =20 Why do you think I am over the line, in Canada. Go ahead. Report = me! I'll just say a Mad Cow made me do it. Since that country seems = to be breeding them all of a sudden (3 out of how many million head?), I = bet you'd get away with it. > Anyway, I'm a little confused. The Bronze Age horn - was there also = a > building that was shaped to give a similar sound or was it made to = make the > horn sound better? The chambers of the stone ceremonial structures appear to have been = adjusted to produce certain resonant standing wave frequencies. The = horn produced low pitches close to the typical frequencies. Very very = low pitches produce hallucinations, perhaps the whole point of it all. = Tune in your building and turn on your occupants, impress the = neighbours. Neat, and legal without the mad cow defence! cp Pam ------=_NextPart_000_00A0_01C4FA10.3B3200D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 [log in to unmask] href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Cuyler = Page=20
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005=20 03:10
Subject: Re: [BP] music in = life

> Did you tape the FBI warning too = for=20 distributing copywritten material?
> We're gonna call the VCR = police on=20 you!
 
Why do you think I am over = the line, in=20 Canada.   Go ahead.  Report me!   I'll = just say=20 a Mad Cow made me do it.  Since = that country=20 seems to be breeding them all of a sudden (3 out of how many million = head?), I=20 bet you'd get away with it.

> Anyway, I'm a little = confused.  The=20 Bronze Age horn - was there also a
> building that was shaped to = give a=20 similar sound or was it made to make the
> horn sound=20 better?
 
The chambers of the stone = ceremonial=20 structures appear to have been adjusted to produce certain resonant = standing=20 wave frequencies.   The horn produced low pitches close to = the=20 typical frequencies.    Very very low pitches produce=20 hallucinations, perhaps the whole point of it all.   Tune in = your=20 building and turn on your occupants, impress the = neighbours. =20 Neat, and legal without the mad cow=20 defence!
 
cp
Pam
 
------=_NextPart_000_00A0_01C4FA10.3B3200D0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:09:44 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: piobareachd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00AC_01C4FA10.685247A0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00AC_01C4FA10.685247A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Unless I want to listen to Amazing Grace a lot. - Pam ----- Original Message -----=20 From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 20:12 Subject: Re: [BP] piobareachd In a message dated 1/13/2005 8:29:57 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: Damn, I spelled it wrong, piobareachd it is. Suggest you need to blast some in the Phelps coffee house. Very good for cleaning out the early morning cobwebs. I'd stick with cobwebs if I were you, Pam.=20 Ralph ------=_NextPart_000_00AC_01C4FA10.685247A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Unless I want to listen to Amazing Grace a lot.
 
- Pam
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]=20
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Thursday, January 13, = 2005=20 20:12
Subject: Re: [BP] = piobareachd

In a message dated 1/13/2005 8:29:57 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask]=20 writes:
Damn,=20 I spelled it wrong, piobareachd it is.
Suggest you need to blast = some in=20 the Phelps coffee house.
Very good for cleaning out the early = morning=20 cobwebs.

I'd stick with cobwebs if I were you, = Pam. 
Ralph
------=_NextPart_000_00AC_01C4FA10.685247A0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 08:12:32 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Moyley Carte MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00B6_01C4FA10.CC4BFFD0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B6_01C4FA10.CC4BFFD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 20:10 Subject: Re: [BP] Moyley Carte In a message dated 1/13/2005 7:16:28 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: I don't generally socialize at all in Phelps, so I'm figuring it'll = be a while before the opportunity presents itself. I don't imagine there = are a lot of brises to attend up there. The rest of you can stay home eating pastrami with mayo on white = bread. Yuck! At least give me credit for knowing how to eat pastrami - = and I think I know a good chicken soup when I see one, too. - Pam Far = be it from me to be picky, but how does one tell a good chicken soup by = sight? It's got just the right amount of chicken fat sitting on top and = it's not orange (like Campbell's) and there's usually a small piece or = two of onion or celery floating on top with the herbs. But, I suppose I = should say "I know a good chicken soup when I sense it", since smell and = taste are involved, too. Ralph ------=_NextPart_000_00B6_01C4FA10.CC4BFFD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]=20
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Thursday, January 13, = 2005=20 20:10
Subject: Re: [BP] Moyley = Carte

In a message dated 1/13/2005 7:16:28 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask]=20 writes:
I don't generally socialize at = all in=20 Phelps, so I'm figuring it'll be a while before the opportunity = presents=20 itself. I don't imagine there are a lot of brises to attend up=20 there.
 
The rest of you can stay home eating pastrami with mayo = on=20 white bread.  Yuck!  At least=20 give me credit for knowing how to eat pastrami - and I think I know = a good=20 chicken soup when I see one, too. - Pam  Far be it from me = to be=20 picky, but how does one tell a good chicken soup by sight? =20 It's got just the right = amount of=20 chicken fat sitting on top and it's not orange (like Campbell's) and = there's=20 usually a small piece or two of onion or celery floating on top with = the=20 herbs.  But, I suppose I should say "I know a good chicken soup = when I=20 sense it", since smell and taste are involved,=20 too.
 
Ralph
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_00B6_01C4FA10.CC4BFFD0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:56:09 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: piobareachd In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001C_01C4FA0E.824CE4A0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C4FA0E.824CE4A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Are you talking about the SHORT jarhead? -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Pamela S. Follett Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 7:06 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BP] piobareachd With the jarhead, anything's possible. ----- Original Message ----- From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 20:13 Subject: Re: [BP] piobareachd In a message dated 1/13/2005 9:32:01 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Jim's middle name is from Donovan's Reef Sure it wasn't from Donovan's Brain? Ralph ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C4FA0E.824CE4A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Are you talking about the SHORT=20 jarhead?
-----Original Message-----
From: Pre-patinated = plastic=20 gumby block w/ coin slot=20 [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of = Pamela=20 S. Follett
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 7:06 = AM
To:=20 [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [BP]=20 piobareachd

With the jarhead, anything's possible.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]=20
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Thursday, January 13, = 2005=20 20:13
Subject: Re: [BP] = piobareachd

In a message dated 1/13/2005 9:32:01 A.M. Eastern Standard = Time, [log in to unmask]=20 writes:
Jim's=20 middle name is from Donovan's Reef
Sure it wasn't from Donovan's Brain?
 
Ralph
 
------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C4FA0E.824CE4A0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:46:39 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: piobareachd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0122_01C4FA1D.F22A4AB0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0122_01C4FA1D.F22A4AB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That'd be the butt, Bob. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jim Follett=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 08:56 Subject: Re: [BP] piobareachd Are you talking about the SHORT jarhead? -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot = [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Pamela S. = Follett Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 7:06 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BP] piobareachd With the jarhead, anything's possible. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 20:13 Subject: Re: [BP] piobareachd In a message dated 1/13/2005 9:32:01 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: Jim's middle name is from Donovan's Reef=20 Sure it wasn't from Donovan's Brain? Ralph ------=_NextPart_000_0122_01C4FA1D.F22A4AB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That'd be the butt, Bob.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Jim=20 Follett
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005=20 08:56
Subject: Re: [BP] = piobareachd

Are you talking about the SHORT=20 jarhead?
-----Original Message-----
From: = Pre-patinated plastic=20 gumby block w/ coin slot=20 [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of = Pamela=20 S. Follett
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 7:06 = AM
To: BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]
Subject:=20 Re: [BP] piobareachd

With the jarhead, anything's possible.
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]=20
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Thursday, January 13, = 2005=20 20:13
Subject: Re: [BP] = piobareachd

In a message dated 1/13/2005 9:32:01 A.M. Eastern Standard = Time, [log in to unmask]=20 writes:
Jim's=20 middle name is from Donovan's Reef
Sure it wasn't from Donovan's Brain?
 
Ralph
=
 
------=_NextPart_000_0122_01C4FA1D.F22A4AB0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:26:53 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: piobareachd In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01C4FA1B.2F1A4BD0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C4FA1B.2F1A4BD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit your response was wrong, that should be shown as a quoted remark! -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Pamela S. Follett Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 8:47 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BP] piobareachd That'd be the butt, Bob. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Follett To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 08:56 Subject: Re: [BP] piobareachd Are you talking about the SHORT jarhead? -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Pamela S. Follett Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 7:06 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BP] piobareachd With the jarhead, anything's possible. ----- Original Message ----- From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 20:13 Subject: Re: [BP] piobareachd In a message dated 1/13/2005 9:32:01 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Jim's middle name is from Donovan's Reef Sure it wasn't from Donovan's Brain? Ralph ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C4FA1B.2F1A4BD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
your response was wrong, that = should be=20 shown as a quoted remark!
-----Original Message-----
From: Pre-patinated = plastic=20 gumby block w/ coin slot=20 [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of = Pamela=20 S. Follett
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 8:47 = AM
To:=20 [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [BP]=20 piobareachd

That'd be the butt, Bob.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Jim=20 Follett
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Friday, January 14, = 2005=20 08:56
Subject: Re: [BP] = piobareachd

Are you talking about the = SHORT=20 jarhead?
-----Original Message-----
From: = Pre-patinated=20 plastic gumby block w/ coin slot=20 [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of=20 Pamela S. Follett
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 = 7:06=20 AM
To: BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]
Subject:=20 Re: [BP] piobareachd

With the jarhead, anything's possible.
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 [log in to unmask] href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Thursday, January = 13, 2005=20 20:13
Subject: Re: [BP] = piobareachd

In a message dated 1/13/2005 9:32:01 A.M. Eastern Standard = Time, [log in to unmask]=20 writes:
Jim's=20 middle name is from Donovan's Reef
Sure it wasn't from Donovan's Brain?
 
Ralph
=
 
------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C4FA1B.2F1A4BD0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:28:03 -0800 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Cuyler Page <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Heritage Interpretation Services Subject: Re: music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0045_01C4FA2C.1C24DF20" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01C4FA2C.1C24DF20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Giddadaheah. The Flintstones went around scraping their ceilings to = make it sound like a Bose wave radio instead of an Atwater Kent? I don't = think so. Ralph Dear Mr. Sensitive, Really amazing, Ralph, but the sonic guys with electronic black boxes = measuring the standing wave resonant tones in those places were finding = some very interesting results (unless the whole thing was a hoax, and = therefore this e-list may also be a hoax and we are all teenagers of the = opposite sex playing at being histo-archeo delvers ((write me off-line = baby)) ) The architecteoarchaeologists were, in fact, pointing out the = scrapings on the inner stones of ceremonial chambers and monuments like = Stonehenge, and the evidences of adjustments made to stone placements in = the chambers after the original construction. The clincher for me was = a Princeton University lab demonstration showing how dust can be made to = take on the physical pattern of a standing wave when conditions are just = right, and how those patterns were remarkably similar to carvings and = paintings decorating the places. All they did during the program was = demonstrate the tests and the findings. The implications were = suggested but carefully not put forth as facts. All quite = scientifically proper. "Just the facts, Ma'am." Of course, they had a = theory in mind to go and test, so the work focused on that possibility. = However, as a soundscapist, it was pretty convincing to me. =20 When my son, Buck, was tiny, he would tune in on the resonant frequency = of a room when it was new to him. 'Whenever we arrived somewhere, you = could hear him moving his little squeal voice up and down until he hit = the resonant pitch of the room and then he would laugh a big laugh and = continue to nail that pitch over and over. It made your ears rattle = and ache, and stopped all conversation. People would put their hands = over their ears and beg to have it stopped. It made you feel giddy. = Now some of us liked that, but others didn't. Tiny Buck just laughed = with the glee of a preconversationalist. He was my first teacher about = the phenomenon. Just because we live a lot later than those other humans, doesn't mean = we are any smarter or more sensitive. We are just using different = parts of our mind and anatomy more, such as our asses. cp in bc ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01C4FA2C.1C24DF20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Giddadaheah.  The Flintstones went around scraping their = ceilings to=20 make it sound like a Bose wave radio instead of an Atwater = Kent? I don't=20 think so.
 
Ralph
 
Dear Mr. Sensitive,
 
Really amazing, Ralph, but the sonic guys with electronic black = boxes=20 measuring the standing wave resonant tones in those places were = finding=20 some very interesting results (unless the whole thing was a hoax, and = therefore=20 this e-list may also be a hoax and we are all teenagers of=20 the opposite sex playing at being histo-archeo delvers ((write me = off-line=20 baby)) )   The architecteoarchaeologists were, in = fact, pointing=20 out the scrapings on the inner stones of ceremonial chambers and = monuments=20 like Stonehenge, and the evidences of adjustments made to stone = placements in=20 the chambers after the original construction.   The = clincher for=20 me was a Princeton University lab demonstration showing how = dust can=20 be made to take on the physical pattern of a standing wave when = conditions are=20 just right, and how those patterns were remarkably similar to carvings = and=20 paintings decorating the places.   All they did during the = program was=20 demonstrate the tests and the findings.   The implications = were=20 suggested but carefully not put forth as facts.   All quite=20 scientifically proper.   "Just the facts, = Ma'am."  Of=20 course, they had a theory in mind to go and test, so the work focused on = that=20 possibility.    However, as a soundscapist, it was pretty = convincing to me.  
 
When my son, Buck, was tiny, he would tune in on the=20 resonant frequency of a room when it was new to him.   = 'Whenever=20 we arrived somewhere, you could hear him moving his little squeal = voice up=20 and down until he hit the resonant pitch of the room and then = he would=20 laugh a big laugh and continue to nail that pitch over and = over.   It=20 made your ears rattle and ache, and stopped all = conversation.   People=20 would put their hands over their ears and beg to have it = stopped.   It=20 made you feel giddy.   Now some of us liked that, but = others=20 didn't.   Tiny Buck just laughed with the glee of a=20 preconversationalist.  He was my first teacher about the=20 phenomenon.
 
Just because we live a lot later than those other humans, doesn't = mean we=20 are any smarter or more sensitive.    We are just using = different=20 parts of our mind and anatomy more, such as our asses.
 
cp in bc
------=_NextPart_000_0045_01C4FA2C.1C24DF20-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:19:52 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105755591" -------------------------------1105755591 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/14/2005 6:49:24 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Ralph, This is pre-classical music... since you only listen to classical we will forgive you your specialization. ;-) ][< I don't care if it IS pre-classical. It's even pre-Baroque. Short of having Fred's (or even Nefertiti's) diary saying they spent last Thursday afternoon on a Baker scaffold scraping the ceiling to improve the resonance of the music room, I don't believe it for a minute. They had more pressing problems. Ralph -------------------------------1105755591 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/14/2005 6:49:24 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000=20 size=3D2>Ralph,

This is pre-classical music... since you only liste= n to=20 classical we
will forgive you your specialization.=20 ;-)

][<
I don't care if it IS pre-classical.  It's even=20 pre-Baroque. 
 
Short of having Fred's  (or even Nefertiti's) diary=20 saying they spent last Thursday afternoon on a Baker scaffold scraping the=20 ceiling to improve the resonance of the music room, I don't believe it=20= for=20 a  minute.  They had more pressing problems.
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1105755591-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:21:20 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105755680" -------------------------------1105755680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/14/2005 7:51:45 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: In triplicate, I presume? As some character (I forget which) said in "Teahouse of the August Moon," "Fill out all forms in triplicate. Do not duplicate your work." Former Thespian -------------------------------1105755680 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/14/2005 7:51:45 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>
In triplicate, I presume?
As some character (I forget which) said in "Teahouse of the August Moon= ,"=20 "Fill out all forms in triplicate.  Do not duplicate your work."
 
Former Thespian
-------------------------------1105755680-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:23:57 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: piobareachd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105755837" -------------------------------1105755837 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/13/2005 9:32:01 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) writes: Jim's middle name is from Donovan's Reef Sure it wasn't from Donovan's Brain? Ralph With the jarhead, anything's possible. I thought the Jarhead administration is over, and you're now occupied by the Brit. BTW, the Hebrew spelling (and pronunication) of "bris" is "brit." Bris is Yiddish. Mr. Helpful -------------------------------1105755837 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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In a message dated 1/13/2= 005=20 9:32:01 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask]=20 writes:
Jim's middle name is from Donovan's Reef
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Sure it wasn't from Donovan's Brain?
 
Ralph
 
With the jarhead, anything's possible.
 
I thought the Jarhead administration is over, and you're now=20 occupied by the Brit.
 
BTW, the Hebrew spelling (and pronunication) of "bris" is=20 "brit."  Bris is Yiddish.
 
Mr. Helpful
-------------------------------1105755837-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:25:21 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Moyley Carte MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105755921" -------------------------------1105755921 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/14/2005 8:05:34 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: But, I suppose I should say "I know a good chicken soup when I sense it", since smell and taste are involved, too. It is decidedly so. Eight Ball -------------------------------1105755921 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/14/2005 8:05:34 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#808080 size= =3D2>But, I suppose I should say "I know a good chicken soup wh= en I=20 sense it", since smell and taste are involved,=20 too.
It is decidedly so.
 
Eight Ball
-------------------------------1105755921-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:26:09 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: piobareachd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105755969" -------------------------------1105755969 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/14/2005 8:57:57 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Are you talking about the SHORT jarhead? There were long and short versions? I'm afraid to ask the difference. Ralph -------------------------------1105755969 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/14/2005 8:57:57 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
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Are you talking about the SHORT=20 jarhead?
 
There were long and short versions?  I'm afraid to ask the=20 difference.
 
Ralph 
<= /SPAN>  -------------------------------1105755969-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 21:38:12 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105756692" -------------------------------1105756692 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/14/2005 2:30:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: We are just using different parts of our mind and anatomy more, such as our asses. So just as Cuyler Jr figured out acoustics, you figured out how I work? You had the easier job. Ralph -------------------------------1105756692 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/14/2005 2:30:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>We are=20 just using different parts of our mind and anatomy more, such as our=20 asses.
So just as Cuyler Jr figured out acoustics, you figured out how I=20 work?  You had the easier job.
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1105756692-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 06:00:58 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: music in life In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > *Short of having Fred's (or even Nefertiti's) diary saying they spent > last Thursday afternoon on a Baker scaffold scraping the ceiling to > improve the resonance of the music room, I don't believe it for a > minute. They had more pressing problems.* Hmmm... more pressing than painting figures on the ceilings and walls of caves? Or carving tall stone heads and leaving them standing around? A religious consciousness can be expressed through acoustics, and what is more pressing than that? ][< -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 08:13:34 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: piobareachd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0044_01C4FADA.1B5D4B50" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0044_01C4FADA.1B5D4B50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 1/13/2005 9:32:01 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: Jim's middle name is from Donovan's Reef=20 Sure it wasn't from Donovan's Brain? Ralph With the jarhead, anything's possible. I thought the Jarhead administration is over, and you're now occupied = by the Brit. Dearest Ralph - I realize you're new to the divorced club (ooo-ooo, = that's probably not the pc term - excuse me, formerly espoused), the = only part of a child's name that MIGHT change is the last one; = therefore, son the younger still goes by James Dunovan (changed spelling = so people would pronounce it "correctly" - jarhead's idea, not mine) BTW, the Hebrew spelling (and pronunication) of "bris" is "brit." = Bris is Yiddish. I'll let the gentleman sitting next to me know that. = I'm sure he'll be pleased. Or, were you thinking all this time that = THAT's what I married and speak of so fondly? Mr. Helpful I don't want to be Ms. Understood ------=_NextPart_000_0044_01C4FADA.1B5D4B50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 

In a message dated = 1/13/2005=20 9:32:01 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask]=20 writes:
Jim's middle name is from Donovan's Reef =
Sure it wasn't from Donovan's Brain?
 
Ralph
 
With the jarhead, anything's possible.
 
I thought the Jarhead administration is over, and you're = now=20 occupied by the Brit.
Dearest Ralph - I realize you're = new to the=20 divorced club (ooo-ooo, that's probably not the pc term - excuse me, = formerly=20 espoused), the only part of a child's name that MIGHT change is the = last one;=20 therefore, son the younger still goes by James Dunovan (changed = spelling so=20 people would pronounce it "correctly" - jarhead's idea, not=20 mine)
 
BTW, the Hebrew spelling (and pronunication) of "bris" is = "brit."  Bris is Yiddish.  I'll let = the=20 gentleman sitting next to me know that.  I'm sure he'll be = pleased. =20 Or, were you thinking all this time that THAT's what I married and = speak of so=20 fondly?
 
Mr. Helpful
I don't want to be Ms.=20 = Understood
------=_NextPart_000_0044_01C4FADA.1B5D4B50-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 08:16:07 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: piobareachd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0050_01C4FADA.76E65E80" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01C4FADA.76E65E80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Short jarheads dance at weddings on their knees (sorry, I know only a = couple people will get that). The only tall(ish?) jarhead I know personally is in Iraq and hanging out = with ambassadors. He is much more the gentleman and respects people. = From this empirical evidence, one can only assume height has something = to do with it. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 21:26 Subject: Re: [BP] piobareachd In a message dated 1/14/2005 8:57:57 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: Are you talking about the SHORT jarhead? There were long and short versions? I'm afraid to ask the difference. Ralph=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01C4FADA.76E65E80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Short jarheads dance at weddings on their knees (sorry, I know only = a=20 couple people will get that).
 
The only tall(ish?) jarhead I know personally is in Iraq and = hanging out=20 with ambassadors.  He is much more the gentleman and respects = people. =20 From this empirical evidence, one can only assume height has something = to do=20 with it.
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In a message dated 1/14/2005 8:57:57 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] = writes:
Are you talking about the = SHORT=20 jarhead?
 
There were long and short versions?  I'm afraid to ask the=20 difference.
 
Ralph 
  ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01C4FADA.76E65E80-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 08:18:17 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Perhaps it was the "pressing" that did it for them. Theory - the base tones resonated through the congregants - therefore, they felt it was the presence of the gods in the building. CP - think you could get some grants for a thesis paper? - Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gabriel Orgrease" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 06:00 Subject: Re: [BP] music in life > > *Short of having Fred's (or even Nefertiti's) diary saying they spent > > last Thursday afternoon on a Baker scaffold scraping the ceiling to > > improve the resonance of the music room, I don't believe it for a > > minute. They had more pressing problems.* > > Hmmm... more pressing than painting figures on the ceilings and walls of > caves? > Or carving tall stone heads and leaving them standing around? > A religious consciousness can be expressed through acoustics, and what > is more pressing than that? > > ][< > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:15:41 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105802141" -------------------------------1105802141 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/15/2005 6:02:52 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Hmmm... more pressing than painting figures on the ceilings and walls of caves? I see a difference between painting, sculpture, and music, and acoustics. I'm not quite sure what that difference is, but seems to me there's a major leap between blowing on horns to make sound, and altering a cave to improve the quality of the sounds made inside it. Seems to me the story was that nobody until Dankmar Adler understood architectural acoustics [which of course means that no lesser human understood them, either; being a reasonable person, I would concede that Stradivari understood the acoustics of string instruments], and I just can't see Fred Flintstone tuning a cave. Enlarging it so he didn't hit his head on the ceiling, yes, but tuning it, no. Or carving tall stone heads and leaving them standing around? A religious consciousness can be expressed through acoustics How pray tell would one express a religious consciousness through acoustics? Especially in 1 Million BC. and what is more pressing than that? Not getting eaten by a dinosaur, killing a mammoth, not freezing your ass off. That sort of thing. Ralph -------------------------------1105802141 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/15/2005 6:02:52 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>Hmmm...=20 more pressing than painting figures on the ceilings and walls of
caves?= =20 I see a difference between painting, sculpture, and music,  a= nd=20 acoustics.   I'm not quite sure what that difference is, but see= ms=20 to me there's a major leap between blowing on horns to make=20 sound, and altering a cave to improve the quality of the sounds made=20 inside it.  Seems to me the story was that nobody until Dankmar=20 Adler understood architectural acoustics [which of course means that no le= sser=20 human understood them, either; being a reasonable person, I would concede=20= that=20 Stradivari understood the acoustics of string instruments], and I just can= 't=20 see Fred Flintstone tuning a cave.   Enlarging it so he didn't h= it=20 his head on the ceiling, yes, but tuning it, no.
Or carving ta= ll=20 stone heads and leaving them standing around?
A religious consciousness= can=20 be expressed through acoustics How pray tell would one express a=20 religious consciousness through acoustics?  Especially in 1 Million=20 BC.  and what is more pressing than that?  Not=20 getting eaten by a dinosaur, killing a mammoth, not freezing your ass=20 off. That sort of thing.
Ralph
 
-------------------------------1105802141-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:25:01 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: piobareachd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105802701" -------------------------------1105802701 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/15/2005 8:00:26 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: thought the Jarhead administration is over, and you're now occupied by the Brit. Dearest Ralph - I realize you're new to the divorced club (ooo-ooo, that's probably not the pc term - excuse me, formerly espoused Not to worry; I'll keep espousing all manner of horseshit.), the only part of a child's name that MIGHT change is the last one; therefore, son the younger still goes by James Dunovan (changed spelling so people would pronounce it "correctly" - jarhead's idea, not mine) Jar/Shithead misspelled his son's name so that it would be pronounced in the correct Gaelic manner? Does J/S spell his own name that way, or just the kid's? This is of course completely different from when my father and his parents came here and rather than having their family name Walther pronounced incorrectly, changed the spelling to Walter so that it would be pronounced in the correct German manner, i.e. Walter. BTW, the Hebrew spelling (and pronunication) of "bris" is "brit." Bris is Yiddish. I'll let the gentleman sitting next to me know that. I'm sure he'll be pleased. And interested, too. Or, were you thinking all this time that THAT's what I married and speak of so fondly? I hadn't thought about him in that regard, and don't want to start now, but I'm sure he's glad you think of him That Way. Mr. Helpful I don't want to be Ms. Understood Me neither. Ms Anthropic is more my style -------------------------------1105802701 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/15/2005 8:00:26 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
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thought the Jarhead administration is over, and you're now=20 occupied by the Brit.
Dearest Ralph - I realize you're new to= the=20 divorced club (ooo-ooo, that's probably not the pc term - excuse me, forme= rly=20 espoused Not to worry; I'll keep espousing all manner of horseshit.),=20 the only part of a child's name that MIGHT change is the last one; therefo= re,=20 son the younger still goes by James Dunovan (changed spelling so people wo= uld=20 pronounce it "correctly" - jarhead's idea, not mine) Jar/Shithead=20 misspelled his son's name so that it would be pronounced in the correct Ga= elic=20 manner?  Does J/S spell his own name that way, or just the kid's? Thi= s is=20 of course completely different from when my father and his parents came he= re=20 and rather than having their family name Walther pronounced incorrectly,=20 changed the spelling to Walter so that it would be pronounced in the corre= ct=20 German manner, i.e. Walter.
 
BTW, the Hebrew spelling (and pronunication) of "bris" is=20 "brit."  Bris is Yiddish.  I'll let the=20 gentleman sitting next to me know that.  I'm sure he'll be=20 pleased. And interested, too. Or, were you thinking all= =20 this time that THAT's what I married and speak of so fondly? I hadn't=20 thought about him in that regard, and don't want to start now, but I'm sur= e=20 he's glad you think of him That Way.
 
Mr. Helpful
I don't want to be Ms. Understood = =20 Me neither. Ms Anthropic is more my=20 style
 
-------------------------------1105802701-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:27:04 -0500 Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "John Leeke, Preservation Consultant" <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Historic HomeWorks Subject: music in life In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>I think it would be most interesting to use say in connection with an earth sculpture or a composition of stone monoliths. Ultra-base. People walking the site would feel the composition, the changes in vibrations through their feet, but also through the aural experience as the stones vibrate.<< Last September I was driving around Tucson in my rental car with a friend and pulled into a new, but retro-50s type drive in--kinda cool we thought. As we sat there eating our dinner, we noticed the car was shaking a bit, like the engine was still running, but it wasn't--sorta like the boom-cars the kids drive these days, but much lower frequency. I got out and walked around--definitely not a boom-car. We just couldn't figure it out. Then I noticed the name of the place was "Sonic." Since then I've seen the Sonic drive ins advertised. Have you been to one of these places? Do they actually have a sub-sonic system of some sort that shakes the cars? John by hammer and hand great works do stand by pen and thought best words are wrought -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:32:26 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: piobareachd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105803146" -------------------------------1105803146 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/15/2005 8:02:45 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Short jarheads dance at weddings on their knees (sorry, I know only a couple people will get that). I think we can figure it out, but can think of more enjoyable activities to perform on one's knees, even at a wedding. Why would anyone dance on his knees (maybe this is why ][
In a message dated 1/15/2005 8:02:45 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
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Short jarheads dance at weddings on their knees (sorry, I know only a= =20 couple people will get that). I think we can figure it out,=20 but can think of more enjoyable activities to perform on one's knees,= =20 even at a wedding.  Why would anyone dance on his knees (maybe this i= s=20 why ][<en is absolutely convinced that Fred Flintstone created the Symp= hony=20 Space in Bedrock), and why didn't you run screaming out of the=20 hall?
 
The only tall(ish?) jarhead I know personally is in Iraq and hanging=20= out=20 with ambassadors.  He is much more the gentleman and respects=20 people.  From this empirical evidence, one can only assume height has= =20 something to do with it. Absolutely.  How perceptive of=20 you.
Mr. 5'-11 1/2"
-------------------------------1105803146-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:32:20 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: music in life X-To: [log in to unmask] In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT VERY super kool! Not been to one. Now I have a desire to find one! ][< (as the bridge wobbles) John Leeke, Preservation Consultant wrote: > >>I think it would be most interesting to use say in connection with an > earth sculpture or a composition of stone monoliths. Ultra-base. > People walking the site would feel the composition, the changes in > vibrations through their feet, but also through the aural experience as > the stones vibrate.<< > > > Last September I was driving around Tucson in my rental car with a > friend and pulled into a new, but retro-50s type drive in--kinda cool we > thought. As we sat there eating our dinner, we noticed the car was > shaking a bit, like the engine was still running, but it wasn't--sorta > like the boom-cars the kids drive these days, but much lower frequency. > I got out and walked around--definitely not a boom-car. We just couldn't > figure it out. > > Then I noticed the name of the place was "Sonic." Since then I've seen > the Sonic drive ins advertised. Have you been to one of these places? Do > they actually have a sub-sonic system of some sort that shakes the cars? > > > John > by hammer and hand great works do stand > by pen and thought best words are wrought > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:34:55 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105803295" -------------------------------1105803295 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/15/2005 8:04:47 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Perhaps it was the "pressing" that did it for thhem. Theory - the base tones resonated through the congregants - therefore, they felt it was the presence of the gods in the building. CP - think you could get some grants for a thesis paper? Oh, for God's sake. If the Canuck govt goes along with this, I will lose all respect for them. Then they'll be sorry. - Pam Mr. Tolerant -------------------------------1105803295 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/15/2005 8:04:47 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>Perhaps=20 it was the "pressing" that did it for thhem.  Theory - the base=20 tones
resonated through the congregants - therefore, they felt it was t= he=20 presence
of the gods in the building.  CP - think you could get so= me=20 grants for a
thesis paper? Oh, for God's sake.  If the Can= uck=20 govt goes along with this, I will lose all respect for them.  Then= =20 they'll be sorry.

- Pam  Mr.=20 Tolerant
 
-------------------------------1105803295-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:36:22 -0500 Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "John Leeke, Preservation Consultant" <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Historic HomeWorks Subject: music in life In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Shake, Rattle and Roll: One of my high school buddies and I once built a gigantic police whistle out of plywood and concrete powered by a 20 horsepower grain-drying blower. When directed at a shed about some 20 yards away, the shed began to rattle and shake, falling into a heap of boards after a while. John by hammer and hand great works do stand by pen and thought best words are wrought -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 10:56:48 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: piobareachd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00B7_01C4FAF0.E8FC4B40" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B7_01C4FAF0.E8FC4B40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 10:32 Subject: Re: [BP] piobareachd In a message dated 1/15/2005 8:02:45 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: Short jarheads dance at weddings on their knees (sorry, I know only = a couple people will get that). I think we can figure it out, but can = think of more enjoyable activities to perform on one's knees, even at a = wedding. Why would anyone dance on his knees (maybe this is why ][
 
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Sent: Saturday, January 15, = 2005=20 10:32
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In a message dated 1/15/2005 8:02:45 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask]=20 writes:
Short jarheads dance at weddings on their knees (sorry, I know = only a=20 couple people will get that). I think we can figure it = out,=20 but can think of more enjoyable activities to perform on one's = knees,=20 even at a wedding.  Why would anyone dance on his knees (maybe = this is=20 why ][<en is absolutely convinced that Fred Flintstone created = the=20 Symphony Space in Bedrock), and why didn't you run screaming = out of the=20 hall? You speak more truth than you know = Ralph. =20 Here's the quick version of the story.  Family wedding (not = mine to=20 jarhead), ][<en asks to dance with sister, and starts squatting = whilst=20 dancing (almost down onto his kness), so that I won't feel out of = place by=20 being shorter than my dance partner (5'4" jarhead compared to 5'8" = mrs. - of=20 course, nothing noted about the fact he doesn't dance).  = Fortunately,=20 jarhead either didn't get the joke or chose to ignore it when = watching the=20 video.  Probably just figured Ken was = weird.
 
The only tall(ish?) jarhead I know personally is in Iraq and = hanging=20 out with ambassadors.  He is much more the gentleman and = respects=20 people.  From this empirical evidence, one can only assume = height has=20 something to do with it. Absolutely.  How perceptive of = you.
Mr. 5'-11 1/2" Now I know why you = and Ken can=20 see eye-to-eye
------=_NextPart_000_00B7_01C4FAF0.E8FC4B40-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:11:35 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: piobareachd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00C1_01C4FAF2.F9A9F030" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00C1_01C4FAF2.F9A9F030 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 10:25 Subject: Re: [BP] piobareachd In a message dated 1/15/2005 8:00:26 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: thought the Jarhead administration is over, and you're now occupied = by the Brit. Dearest Ralph - I realize you're new to the divorced club (ooo-ooo, = that's probably not the pc term - excuse me, formerly espoused Not to = worry; I'll keep espousing all manner of horseshit.), the only part of a = child's name that MIGHT change is the last one; therefore, son the = younger still goes by James Dunovan (changed spelling so people would = pronounce it "correctly" - jarhead's idea, not mine) Jar/Shithead = misspelled his son's name so that it would be pronounced in the correct = Gaelic manner? Does J/S spell his own name that way, or just the kid's? = Just the one child. His name's pretty simple and hard to mangle. = Although when saying the last name was Blythe, many people heard Blake. = This is of course completely different from when my father and his = parents came here and rather than having their family name Walther = pronounced incorrectly, changed the spelling to Walter so that it would = be pronounced in the correct German manner, i.e. Walter. BTW, the Hebrew spelling (and pronunication) of "bris" is "brit." = Bris is Yiddish. I'll let the gentleman sitting next to me know that. = I'm sure he'll be pleased. And interested, too. Or, were you thinking = all this time that THAT's what I married and speak of so fondly? I = hadn't thought about him in that regard, and don't want to start now, = but I'm sure he's glad you think of him That Way. Mr. Helpful I don't want to be Ms. Understood Me neither. Ms Anthropic is more = my style ------=_NextPart_000_00C1_01C4FAF2.F9A9F030 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
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From:=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]=20
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In a message dated 1/15/2005 8:00:26 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask]=20 writes:
thought the Jarhead administration is over, and you're = now=20 occupied by the Brit.
Dearest Ralph - I realize you're = new to the=20 divorced club (ooo-ooo, that's probably not the pc term - excuse me, = formerly espoused Not to worry; I'll keep espousing all manner = of=20 horseshit.), the only part of a child's name that MIGHT change = is the=20 last one; therefore, son the younger still goes by James Dunovan = (changed=20 spelling so people would pronounce it "correctly" - jarhead's idea, = not=20 mine) Jar/Shithead misspelled his son's name so that it would be = pronounced in the correct Gaelic manner?  Does J/S spell his = own name=20 that way, or just the kid's? Just the one = child. =20 His name's pretty simple and hard to mangle.  Although when = saying the=20 last name was Blythe, many people heard Blake.  This is = of=20 course completely different from when my father and his parents came = here=20 and rather than having their family name Walther pronounced = incorrectly,=20 changed the spelling to Walter so that it would be pronounced in the = correct=20 German manner, i.e. Walter.
 
BTW, the Hebrew spelling (and pronunication) of "bris" = is=20 "brit."  Bris is Yiddish.  I'll let = the=20 gentleman sitting next to me know that.  I'm sure he'll be=20 pleased. And interested, too. Or, were you = thinking all=20 this time that THAT's what I married and speak of so fondly? I = hadn't=20 thought about him in that regard, and don't want to start now, but = I'm sure=20 he's glad you think of him That Way.
 
Mr. Helpful
I don't want to be Ms. = Understood =20 Me neither. Ms Anthropic is more my=20 style
 
------=_NextPart_000_00C1_01C4FAF2.F9A9F030-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 11:27:35 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: music in life In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT [log in to unmask] wrote: > *Not getting eaten by a dinosaur, killing a mammoth, not freezing > your ass off. That sort of thing.* > Ralph, I think your focus is just a bit too archaic on this... with long trumpets we are talking Tibetan monastaries and not the uber Fred Flintstone. As to humans doing non-utilitarian architecture for aesthetic or religious purposes I don't understand why you are adamant that they would never build for acoustics prior to the 19th-20th century. ][< -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:05:36 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: piobareachd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105812336" -------------------------------1105812336 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/15/2005 10:43:39 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: You speak more truth than you know Ralph. Here's the quick version of the story. Family wedding (not mine to jarhead), ][
In a message dated 1/15/2005 10:43:39 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>
You speak more truth than you know=20 Ralph.  Here's the quick version of the story.  Family wedding= =20 (not mine to jarhead), ][<en asks to dance with sister "Sister" being sister-other-than you, or you, referred t= o as=20 "I" below?, and starts squatting whilst dancing (almost down onto= his=20 kness) perhaps digestive distress?, so that= I=20 won't feel out of place by being shorter than my dance partner (5'4" jar= head=20 compared to 5'8" mrs. - of course, nothing noted about the fact he Dance-impaired "he" being Ken, or jarhead? doesn'= t=20 dance).  My mother and father were similarly,= and=20 possibly exactly so, proportioned. Fortunately, jarhead eith= er=20 didn't get the joke or chose to ignore it when watching the video. = =20 Maybe too embarrassed for/by in-laws to comment.=20 Probably just figured Ken was weird. Couldn't have figured Ken was weird.  Must be some=20= other=20 explanation.
 
The only tall(ish?) jarhead I know personally is in Iraq and hangin= g=20 out with ambassadors.  He is much more the gentleman and respects=20 people.  From this empirical evidence, one can only assume height h= as=20 something to do with it. Absolutely.  How perceptive of=20 you.
Mr. 5'-11 1/2" Now I know why you and K= en can=20 see eye-to-eye He's a reasonable person. = ; With=20 certain exceptions, and now we know about yet=20 another.
 
-------------------------------1105812336-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:11:37 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: piobareachd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105812697" -------------------------------1105812697 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/15/2005 10:58:10 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Does J/S spell his own name that way, or just the kid's? Just the one child. His name's pretty simple and hard to mangle. Although when saying the last name was Blythe, many people heard Blake. Holy Jesus God. What the goddam hell is going on up there in Phelps/Manlius/Ithaca/Hudson's Bay? Who's Donovan/Dunavan, who's Blythe/Blake, which one is Jar/Shithead, and which father changes spelling of whose son's name? No wonder The Northern Ralph is confused. The Southern Ralph (ask Pyrate about Southern Ralph) is totally mystified. Whew. Ralph -------------------------------1105812697 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/15/2005 10:58:10 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>Does J/S=20 spell his own name that way, or just the kid's? Just= the=20 one child.  His name's pretty simple and hard to mangle.  Althou= gh=20 when saying the last name was Blythe, many people heard=20 Blake. 
Holy Jesus God.  What the goddam hell is going on up there= in=20 Phelps/Manlius/Ithaca/Hudson's Bay? 
 
Who's Donovan/Dunavan, who's Blythe/Blake, which one is=20 Jar/Shithead, and which father changes spelling of whose son's=20 name?
 
No wonder The Northern Ralph is confused.  The Southern Ra= lph=20 (ask Pyrate about Southern Ralph) is totally mystified.
 
Whew.
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1105812697-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:21:58 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105813318" -------------------------------1105813318 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/15/2005 11:28:32 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Ralph, I think your focus is just a bit too archaic on this... Me, archaic? Nobody's ever accused me of THAT before. with long trumpets we are talking Tibetan monastaries and not the uber Fred Flintstone. YOU made it sound like Fred Flintstone. Now it turns out it's the brother-in-law of the cell-phone toting Dalai Lama As to humans doing non-utilitarian architecture for aesthetic or religious purposes I don't understand why you are adamant that they would never build for acoustics prior to the 19th-20th century. Well.....hmmm...just doesn't seem to me that acoustics were understood, and that to the extent that Gregorian Chants sounded good in cathedrals, they sounded good because they were performed in huge, cavernous spaces enclosed by acoustically-reflective stone surfaces that were built to impress everybody with power, permanence and importance of The Alleged Deity, not because they sounded good. If foam rubber egg-crate had been available from 12th century Home Depot, and was structurally sound, durable, and workable with the tools available, I bet they woulda used it and the hell with the acoustics from stone. Went to the Liberry today, were in the biography section they had a book titled "Flawed Architect." Turned out to be about Kissinger. Ralph ][< -------------------------------1105813318 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/15/2005 11:28:32 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000=20 size=3D2>Ralph,

I think your focus is just a bit too archaic on thi= s...=20 Me, archaic?  Nobody's ever accused me of THAT before.=20 with long trumpets we are talking Tibetan monastaries and not the= =20 uber Fred Flintstone.  YOU made it sound like Fred=20 Flintstone.  Now it turns out it's the brother-in-law of the cell-pho= ne=20 toting Dalai Lama 
As to humans doing non-utilitarian=20 architecture for aesthetic or
religious purposes I don't understand why= you=20 are adamant that they
would never build for acoustics prior to the=20 19th-20th century. Well.....hmmm...just doesn't seem to me that=20 acoustics were understood, and that to the extent that Gregorian Chants=20 sounded good in cathedrals, they sounded good because they were performed=20= in=20 huge, cavernous spaces enclosed by acoustically-reflective stone surfaces=20= that=20 were built to impress everybody with power, permanence and importance= =20 of The Alleged Deity, not because they sounded good. If foam rub= ber=20 egg-crate had been available from 12th century Home Depot, and=20 was structurally sound, durable, and workable with the tools=20 available, I bet they woulda used it and the hell with the acoustics=20= from=20 stone.  
Went to the Liberry today, were in the biography section they h= ad a=20 book titled "Flawed Architect."  Turned out to be about=20 Kissinger.
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000=20 size=3D2>Ralph
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-------------------------------1105813318-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:47:40 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Music in stone MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105854460" -------------------------------1105854460 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en =20 =20 Recently you said something about desiring a Tibetan long horn for its sou= nd >effect. You might be able to get that effect architecturally. > >Last night on History Channel there was a very interesting program about t= he >nature of sound at various stone age architectural sites. > Culver As you all know I've studied stone=20 I've =20 sat on benches of stone I've seen =20 walked on stone marble bend and granite hinge=20 eaten off tables of stone , slate tone hovels =20= =20 and washed my feet and hands and limestone grottos =20 in bowls of stone sandstone mountains =20 and terra cotta fountains =20 I've =20 Slept on stone, I've seen bugs in stone =20 drank from stone , tar in stone =20 cooked in stone Shells in stone=20 and made love on stone and ..IT=E2=80=A6.written in stone =20 I've slipped on stone I've touched the stone =20 stynx =20 kicked some stone cut new red pinks=20 bled on stone hammered halls=20 and pissed off some stone and broken balls=20 but I ain't never heard a stone sing.......Py=20 My take on the music in stones concerning stone circles and such is an =20 educated =20 guess based on my experience and discussions with 5 yr old =E2=80=A6(Peanut= )=E2=80=A6=20 According to her =20 The ancient people used traditional dance around the great circles =20 using festive and seductive steps such as the hokey pokey=20 and lively music with words and sounds not much different than today's rap=20 music.(see snoop doggy-dog)=20 Now heres the clincher , =20 according to Peanut =20 This all goes along swell Until the music stops =20 then everyone must run and grab and hug a stone =E2=80=A6=20 .anyone caught not hugging their own stone has to =20 sit down (or worse.).. depending on what century we are talking about this=20 might mean having to go live in a red state)=20 This goes on for quite some time until all the mommy's and daddy's are=20 totally exhausted and have to put their feet up and drink martinis =E2=80= =A6.hmmm she=20 might be on to something here=E2=80=A6PY -------------------------------1105854460 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en

 

Recently you sai= d=20 something about desiring a Tibetan long horn for its=20 sound
>effect.   You might be able to get that effect=20 architecturally.
>
>Last night on History Channel there was a ve= ry=20 interesting program about the
>nature of sound at various stone age=20 architectural sites.
>
Culver

 

As you all know=20= I've=20  studied   stone

 

 I've=20

sat on benches o= f=20 stone               I've seen  <= /P>

  walked on stone          =             &nbs= p;  =20 marble bend and granite= =20 hinge

eaten off  tables of stone ,          =     =20 slate tone hovels               

and washed my fe= et and=20 hands      &= nbsp;and=20 limestone grottos 

 in bowls of stone                             sandstone mountains  

        =             &nbs= p;            &n= bsp;            =       =20 and terra cotta fountains

        =             &nbs= p;            &n= bsp;            =         

                                                      

                                                        

                                                       

I've=20

Slept on  stone,                                I've seen bugs in stone=20

drank from stone= ,=20                              tar in stone

  cooked in stone                               Shells in stone

and made love on= stone=20                      and  ..IT=E2=80=A6.written in stone=20

 

I've slipped on=20 stone            = ;            &nb= sp;    I've=20 touched the stone=20 stynx            = ;            &nb= sp;  =20

kicked some=20 stone            = ;            &nb= sp;     =20 cut new red pinks

bled on  stone     =             &nbs= p;            &n= bsp;      =20 hammered halls

and pissed off s= ome=20 stone                    &= nbsp;and=20 broken balls

 

 

        =             &nbs= p;            &n= bsp;            =          =20 but I ain't never heard a stone sing.......Py

 

 

 

My take on the music in stones concerning= stone=20 circles and such  is an  educated 

     guess based on my experience and=20 discussions with 5 yr old =E2=80=A6(Peanut)=E2=80=A6

 

According to her= =20

The ancient=20  people used traditional dance around the great circles 

using festive an= d=20 seductive steps such as the hokey=20 pokey

 and lively= music=20 with words and sounds not much different than today's rap music.(see sn= oop=20 doggy-dog)

 Now heres=20= the=20 clincher ,

according to Pea= nut=20

 

This all goes al= ong=20 swell  Until the music stops

        then everyone must run and  gr= ab and=20 hug a stone =E2=80=A6

.anyone  caught not hugging their own =20= stone=20 has to

        sit down (or worse.).. depending on= what=20 century we are talking about this might mean having to go live in a red=20 state)

 

This goes on  for quite some time until all the m= ommy's=20 and daddy's are totally exhausted and have to put their feet up and drink=20 martinis =E2=80=A6.hmmm she might be on to=20 something  here=E2=80=A6PY

 -------------------------------1105854460-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 04:37:49 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: piobareachd In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Short jarheads dance at weddings on their knees (sorry, I know only a couple people will get that). *I think we can figure it out, but can think of more enjoyable activities to perform on one's knees, even at a wedding. Why would anyone dance on his knees (maybe this is why ][ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 08:28:56 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: piobareachd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gabriel Orgrease" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 04:37 Subject: Re: [BP] piobareachd > Short jarheads dance at weddings on their knees (sorry, I know only > a couple people will get that). *I think we can figure it out, > but can think of more enjoyable activities to perform on one's > knees, even at a wedding. Why would anyone dance on his knees > (maybe this is why ][ Flintstone created the Symphony Space in Bedrock), and why didn't > you run screaming out of the hall?* > > Ralph, > > And the damned short-man dancing was caught on video to boot. > > You know that you are really getting to be difficult about the > prehistoric sonics. > I suppose next your going to tell me that Fred Flintstone was NOT an > Hebrew despite the evidence of stone knives? > > The Indonesian tsunami was a geophysical composition of god gone awry? > Tectonic plates as tuning forks. Exactly! The waves were merely the cresendo - Pam > > ][<* > * > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 09:19:40 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: piobareachd In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT >>The Indonesian tsunami was a geophysical composition of god gone awry? >>Tectonic plates as tuning forks. >> >> > >Exactly! The waves were merely the cresendo > Yes, it made for quite a jammin' bash. ][< -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 08:33:14 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: piobareachd In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Apparently there are some intelligent designers among us. I thought God said she wasn't going to do the flood thing again. My only exposure to folks who took the Bible literally until I went off to college was in the movie Inherit the Wind. Back then my father was a conservative Republican. I'm so very confused. Sure is cold out. I picked yesterday evening to get a flat tire. Sure is cold out. -jc On Jan 16, 2005, at 8:19 AM, Gabriel Orgrease wrote: >>> The Indonesian tsunami was a geophysical composition of god gone >>> awry? >>> Tectonic plates as tuning forks. >>> >>> >> >> Exactly! The waves were merely the cresendo >> > Yes, it made for quite a jammin' bash. > > ][< > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 09:34:31 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Music in stone MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105886071" -------------------------------1105886071 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en =20 In a message dated 1/16/2005 12:48:14 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, =20 [log in to unmask] writes: =E2=80=A6.hmmm she might be on to something here=E2=80=A6PY Ask Peanut whether our ancestren went around chipping on their caves to=20 improve acoustical performance. I think she'll agree with me that they wer= e too=20 busy dancing the hokey pokey and drinking martinis. =20 Ralph -------------------------------1105886071 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en
In a message dated 1/16/2005 12:48:14 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>=E2=80=A6.hmmm=20 she might be on to something  here=E2=80=A6PY
Ask Peanut whether our ancestren  went around chipping on the= ir=20 caves to improve acoustical performance.  I think she'll agree with me=20 that they were too busy dancing the hokey pokey and drinking=20 martinis.
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1105886071-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 09:51:05 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: piobareachd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105887065" -------------------------------1105887065 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/16/2005 4:38:15 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Ralph, And the damned short-man dancing was caught on video to boot. And you haven't destroyed this video? You know that you are really getting to be difficult about the prehistoric sonics. Well, I'm difficult about MANY things, so what's another? Especially something as absurd as this. I suppose they invented differential calculus and made batteries for their spaceships to the moon, too. I suppose next your going to tell me that Fred Flintstone was NOT an Hebrew despite the evidence of stone knives? Although I have no reason to believe that Fred was an Hebraic person, I can tell you that on German TV he's called Fritz Feuerstein, which certainly has a more Hebraic sound to it, and is a direct translation. This is as opposed to Donald Duck, who is called Gustav Ganz, which translates as Gus Goose. Fred's boss, Mr. Slate, always looked sort of Jewish (and looked a lot like my father, now that you mention it) to me, which would fit with his being a capitalist and all. The Indonesian tsunami was a geophysical composition of god gone awry? It was an earth fart. As opposed to a brain fart. Tectonic plates as tuning forks. Giddadaheah. ][<* Ralph -------------------------------1105887065 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/16/2005 4:38:15 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000=20 size=3D2>Ralph,

And the damned short-man dancing was caught on vide= o to=20 boot. And you haven't destroyed this video?

You kn= ow=20 that you are really getting to be difficult about the
prehistoric sonic= s.=20 Well, I'm difficult about MANY things, so what's another? =20 Especially something as absurd as this.  I suppose they invented=20 differential calculus and made batteries for their spaceships to the moon,= =20 too.
I suppose next your going to tell me that Fred Flintstone= was=20 NOT an
Hebrew despite the evidence of stone knives? Although I=20= have=20 no reason to believe that Fred was an Hebraic person, I can tell you=20= that=20 on German TV he's called Fritz Feuerstein, which certainly has a more Hebr= aic=20 sound to it, and is a direct translation.  This is as opposed to Dona= ld=20 Duck, who is called Gustav Ganz, which translates as Gus Goose.  Fred= 's=20 boss, Mr. Slate, always looked sort of Jewish (and looked a lot like my=20 father, now that you mention it) to me, which would fit with his being a=20 capitalist and all.

The Indonesian tsunami was a geophysic= al=20 composition of god gone awry? It was an earth fart.  As oppos= ed=20 to a brain fart.
Tectonic plates as tuning forks. =20 Giddadaheah.

][<* =20 Ralph
 
-------------------------------1105887065-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 09:55:49 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: piobareachd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105887349" -------------------------------1105887349 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/16/2005 9:19:52 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Yes, it made for quite a jammin' bash. This was good? It's also another reason why classical music is better. Mozart wouldn't have killed 160,000 people. OK, Ken, now you tell us why Mozart would have killed 160,000 people. And yes, I know that some relative of Schubert's was in the SS, but we're talking about Mozart. Ralph -------------------------------1105887349 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/16/2005 9:19:52 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>Yes, it=20 made for quite a jammin' bash.
This was good? 
 
It's also another reason why classical music is better. =20 Mozart wouldn't have killed 160,000 people. 
 
OK, Ken, now you tell us why Mozart would=20 have killed 160,000 people.  And yes, I know that some relative of=20 Schubert's was in the SS, but we're talking about Mozart.
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1105887349-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:00:11 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: piobareachd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105887611" -------------------------------1105887611 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/16/2005 9:33:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Apparently there are some intelligent designers among us. Thank you. It's nice to be recognized by one's peers. I thought God said she wasn't going to do the flood thing again. When did you last talk to her? Or vice versa? My only exposure to folks who took the Bible literally until I went off to college was in the movie Inherit the Wind. Back then my father was a conservative Republican. Now he's a liberal Democrat. I'm so very confused. Ain't we all? Except for the literal Bible people, that is. Sure is cold out. I picked yesterday evening to get a flat tire. Shoulda waited for better weather. Hell, I coulda told you that,and I don't know nothin' about this cold weather shit. Or birthin no babies, neither, Miss Scarlett. Sure is cold out. Ayup. Ralph -------------------------------1105887611 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/16/2005 9:33:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000=20 size=3D2>Apparently there are some intelligent designers among=20 us. Thank you. It's nice to be recognized by one's peers.=20  I thought
God said she wasn't going to do the flood thin= g=20 again.  When did you last talk to her?  Or vice versa?=20 My only exposure to folks who took the Bible literally until I we= nt=20 off to college was in the movie Inherit the Wind.  Back then my fathe= r=20 was a
conservative Republican. Now he's a liberal=20 Democrat. I'm so very confused. Ain't we all? =20 Except for the literal Bible people, that is.

Sure is cold= =20 out.  I picked yesterday evening to get a flat tire. =20 Shoulda waited for better weather. Hell, I coulda told you that,an= d I=20 don't know nothin' about this cold weather shit.  Or birthin no babie= s,=20 neither, Miss Scarlett. Sure is cold out.=20 Ayup.
Ralph
-------------------------------1105887611-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:20:39 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: pio-preached air In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT John Callan wrote: > My only exposure to folks who took the Bible literally until I went > off to college was in the movie Inherit the Wind. There was a disturbance down the cell row; rather, there was a noticeable lack of disturbance. It was Preacher Jicklo come to proselytize and save the inmates for Jesus. One by one in a row, starting from the cell closest to the gate, the county inmates ducked into their bunks and hid under their covers to feign sleep, but one, "You shed visit the kid down there, Preacher. I ready been saved, Preacher, but 'im there's got five Bibles. You should go talk to 'im." "I'll do that son. And may Jesus be with you to the inebriated Day of Atonement in that there is no greater to be blessed unto a man, or woman, or beast or sheep or prairie dog but that they would come through me to seek redemption of their thirst from terrible... terrible sinful ways on the high and righteous road unto the kingdom of the Glorious Father..." It was as if he had got this all out of a book. Or he had got it all from some other person who repeated it to him from some other person who had got it out of a book that some other person had translated from what some other person had said that some other person had said they had read in a book, but they had not really read any book though they did not want it known that they had not read the book but made it all up and said it had come from a book that they had read when they had never actually read it or any other book, being a primary-source illiterate, but in a nice way, and Preacher Jicklo said it as if he meant it, repeated himself as if he meant every last word of it because it was Gospel. "You got a Gaulois, Preacher?" "No." "Hmmm... well then... I could use some socks. You see that my feet are bare, no?" "With your heart in Jesus there is no need for want..." "I'm not sure what I want is so peculiar, Preacher, but me feet tell me they are cold." "I'm cold," said the anonymous inmate's foot as it wiggled bare and exposed from out below the thin blanket. ------ (and this story of a mother ducker borrowed and adapted from a friend) Then there was this Garph fellow. How can one feel that they are in competition with a phantom? How can one feel in competition when one does not even know that they are in a race with time, with surreal and/or biological clocks or that it is all as it was, comfortable or otherwise, his relationship with Molly Kunze over with? This Garph... the story was... had been down at the local park in Winnipee Center at the south end of the lake near the small inlet, a sheltered space with overhang of willows where ducks and swans and geese congregate because people are always there to feed them stale bread. An unknown fellow, Associate Professor XYZ, in a sports car with bagpipes he steered and bellowed and was stuck on his piobareachd, an MG midget, Green Mallard in color, a bit over the edge of sobriety drove in swerves through on the small road near to the inlet in the town park, resplendent in the early light filtered through the gentle rustle of beech tree leaves, a noisy contraption too quick that early in the day and with a small bump and flump flump with his front tire struck a mother duck. What luck? The bird with a broken wing fluttered and squawked and put up a hell of a noise that the driver bluntly did not hear as he godlessly progressed to the southwest past the raccoon and white-tail zoo towards the lower decline of a boat launch ramp. She had to have been deaf. The Professor floated onward to further inlets. Her chicks fluttered around on the road behind her in a chaotic turmoil of panic; they looked like loose leaves blown about by wind. Mothers of little children were witness there and with their own blessed children hustled -- clusters of nuclear family units who had gone from the serene pleasure to throw chunks of sticky donuts and day old bread to the hungry birds to suddenly witness this squawk and trauma. Garph came to the rescue. Bravely he grabbed up the bird as it screeched and pecked at him. He withstood the pain to his wrist. He held the bird tight and firm against his chest. The chicks peeped at the soles of his sea-green Doc Martins. Garph proclaimed to all of the American mothers who had come here straight out of the suburbs and were seen to hold their young children, little girls with hands over their eyes that cried uncontrollably, boys laughed and slapped their tiny thighs, Garph proclaimed to all and everyone in an Errol Flynn gesture of bravado, "I will save the life of this mother duck. It will not go to waste!" It was an emergency, he told them. He smiled. He assured them on his honor as a man of substance and long record, and with his soft voice of stalwart command he assured all of the mothers and the children, particularly the little girls, and the other ducks who were huddled nearby in wonderment and the white swan and the black swan and the goose and the gander and the trees with their crisp leaves and a candy wrapper that blew past in lazy-ass arcs and the man who walked his Dalmatian on cerise expanda-leash and the sun and the moon and the stars that he would right then with haste and dispatch transport the wounded mother duck to the emergency room of the nearest VA hospital. Garph jumped in his truck with his dog Sparky who barked amiably and they left the town park where they went directly to his friend Denny Bonabben's cabin where he had crashed on the porch for the last month -- decapitated with rusty hatchet on the rear door stoop, plucked, prepared and ate the mother duck as a sort of mushy soup boiled with white onions and 'taters. Sparky was happy for a few breast scraps and raw intestines, but no bones. Duck bones are not good for dogs. XXX -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 10:31:49 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: piobareachd X-cc: Monty <[log in to unmask]> In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT [log in to unmask] wrote: > ** *OK, Ken, now you tell us** why Mozart _would_ have killed 160,000 > people. And yes, I know that some relative of Schubert's was in the > SS, but we're talking about Mozart. > * My Dear Ralph, Mozart is not quite as large as the earth, though I am certain that you may argue otherwise... he was a small small man. Proportionately his act of unhuman massacre was an equivalent to that of the most recent tsunami as when in 1782 he took a bath in preparation to wed Constanze Weber in Vienna's St. Stephen's Cathedral (obligatory histo presto content, and a structure the little man had several months earlier acoustically altered by the removal of several non-essential interior columns) Mozart killed off 4,356 insects and assorted bacteria that had accumulateed in his hair. For such a small man this was a remarkable accomplishment. ][< -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 12:21:37 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Dan Becker <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: piobareachd In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit On 1/16/05 9:55 AM, "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > It's also another reason why classical music is better. Mozart wouldn't > have killed 160,000 people. Nope, just himself. D. -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 16:53:08 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: piobareachd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105912388" -------------------------------1105912388 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/16/2005 12:22:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > It's also another reason why classical music is better. Mozart wouldn't > have killed 160,000 people. Nope, just himself. D. You're thinking of Tchaikovksy and the cholera water. Or Schubert and the whore. 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In a message dated 1/16/2005 12:22:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>>=20 It's also another reason why classical music is better.   Mozart= =20 wouldn't
> have killed 160,000 people.

Nope, just=20 himself.

D.
You're thinking of Tchaikovksy and the cholera water.  Or Schubert= and=20 the whore.
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1105912388-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 18:26:20 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: An urgent debate MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_1c5.21f7d58e.2f1c521c_boundary" --part1_1c5.21f7d58e.2f1c521c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/13/05 7:14:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > I met an American architect who had done a considerable amount of work > in Qatar. He had a curious problem in that what was wanted by the people > in Qatar was the replication of American sprawling suburb, the sort of > developments that would have clover-leafs, curved and branched side > streets ending in small circles. They had the money for it, and that is > what they wanted. The difficulty he expressed was that the orientation > of the toilets towards Mecca all had to all of them be the same, what is the direction of a toilet? christopher --part1_1c5.21f7d58e.2f1c521c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 1/13/05 7:14:03=20= AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:

I met an American architect who= had done a considerable amount of work
in Qatar. He had a curious problem in that what was wanted by the people
in Qatar was the replication of American sprawling suburb, the sort of
developments that would have clover-leafs, curved and branched side
streets ending in small circles. They had the money for it, and that is
what they wanted. The difficulty he expressed was that the orientation
of the toilets towards Mecca all had to all of them be the same,

what is the direction of a toilet?  christopher --part1_1c5.21f7d58e.2f1c521c_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:41:35 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: creighton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Music in stone MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0021_01C4FC14.26FA7470" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C4FC14.26FA7470 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Singing stone is just outside Gomez Fariez (sp?) Mexico. look for a = chimney hole. Work your way down feet against stone in front jamming = back against stone behind. The rope was a good idea. Small space maybe = 12 x 10 starting at 12' under. One lonely stalagmite. Tap with 12" dock = spike it becomes a bell. Shown to me by one of my dads graduate students = who later went down with Air Florida into the frozen Potomac.=20 I felt the singing concrete some years later on the old Montauk = Highway on out past the unhamptons shortly before and above Hitherhills = in a WWII bunker beautifully crafted to look like a abandoned farmhouse, = complete with askew shutters and slipped clapboard. We discovered = singing loudly and intune on note would vibrate the entire structure and = this was only a few years after levitating the Pentagon rolling stoned=20 creighton ----- Original Message -----=20 From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 12:47 AM Subject: Re: [BP] Music in stone =20 Recently you said something about desiring a Tibetan long horn for its = sound >effect. You might be able to get that effect architecturally. > >Last night on History Channel there was a very interesting program = about the >nature of sound at various stone age architectural sites. > Culver As you all know I've studied stone =20 I've=20 sat on benches of stone I've seen =20 walked on stone marble bend and granite = hinge eaten off tables of stone , slate tone hovels = =20 and washed my feet and hands and limestone grottos=20 in bowls of stone sandstone mountains =20 and terra cotta = fountains=20 =20 =20 =20 =20 I've=20 Slept on stone, I've seen bugs in = stone=20 drank from stone , tar in stone=20 cooked in stone Shells in stone and made love on stone and ..IT=E2=80=A6.written = in stone=20 =20 I've slipped on stone I've touched the = stone stynx =20 kicked some stone cut new red pinks bled on stone hammered halls and pissed off some stone and broken balls but I ain't = never heard a stone sing.......Py My take on the music in stones concerning stone circles and such is = an educated=20 guess based on my experience and discussions with 5 yr old = =E2=80=A6(Peanut)=E2=80=A6 According to her=20 The ancient people used traditional dance around the great circles=20 using festive and seductive steps such as the hokey pokey and lively music with words and sounds not much different than = today's rap music.(see snoop doggy-dog) Now heres the clincher ,=20 according to Peanut=20 This all goes along swell Until the music stops=20 then everyone must run and grab and hug a stone =E2=80=A6 .anyone caught not hugging their own stone has to=20 sit down (or worse.).. depending on what century we are = talking about this might mean having to go live in a red state) This goes on for quite some time until all the mommy's and daddy's = are totally exhausted and have to put their feet up and drink martinis = =E2=80=A6.hmmm she might be on to something here=E2=80=A6PY ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C4FC14.26FA7470 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF
Singing stone is just outside Gomez Fariez (sp?) Mexico. look for a = chimney=20 hole. Work your way down feet against stone in front jamming back = against stone=20 behind. The rope was a good idea. Small space maybe 12 x 10 starting at = 12'=20 under. One lonely stalagmite. Tap with 12" dock spike it becomes a bell. = Shown=20 to me by one of my dads graduate students who later went down with Air = Florida=20 into the frozen Potomac.
    I felt the singing concrete some years = later  on=20 the old Montauk Highway on out past the unhamptons shortly before and = above=20 Hitherhills in a WWII bunker beautifully crafted to look like a = abandoned=20 farmhouse, complete with askew shutters and slipped clapboard. We = discovered=20 singing loudly and intune on note would vibrate the entire structure and = this=20 was only a few years after levitating the Pentagon
rolling stoned
creighton
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]=20
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 = 12:47=20 AM
Subject: Re: [BP] Music in = stone

 

Recently = you said=20 something about desiring a Tibetan long horn for its=20 sound
>effect.   You might be able to get that effect=20 architecturally.
>
>Last night on History Channel there = was a very=20 interesting program about the
>nature of sound at various stone = age=20 architectural sites.
>
Culver

 

As you all = know I've=20  studied   stone

 

 I've =

sat on = benches of=20 stone               I've seen  =

  walked on stone             &n= bsp;           =20 marble bend and = granite=20 hinge

eaten off =  tables of stone ,             &n= bsp;=20 slate tone hovels               

and washed = my feet=20 and hands       and limestone=20 grottos 

 in bowls of stone                             sandstone mountains  

           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;            = ;    =20 and terra cotta fountains

           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;            = ;      

                                                      

                                                        

                                                       

I've=20

Slept on =  stone,                                I've seen bugs in stone=20

drank from = stone ,=20                              tar in stone =

  cooked in stone                               Shells in = stone

and made = love on=20 stone                      and  ..IT=E2=80=A6.written in = stone=20

 

I've = slipped on=20 = stone           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;     I've=20 touched the stone=20 = stynx           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;   =20

kicked = some=20 = stone           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;      =20 cut new red pinks

bled on =  stone        &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;    =20 hammered halls

and pissed = off some=20 stone                     and broken balls

 

 

           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;            = ;       =20 but I ain't never heard a stone sing.......Py

 

 

 

My take on the music in stones = concerning=20 stone circles and such  is an=20  educated 

     guess based on my experience = and=20 discussions with 5 yr old =E2=80=A6(Peanut)=E2=80=A6

 

According = to her=20

The = ancient=20  people used traditional dance around the great = circles 

using = festive and=20 seductive steps such as the = hokey=20 pokey

 and = lively=20 music with words and sounds not much different than today's=20 rap music.(see snoop doggy-dog)

 Now = heres the=20 clincher ,

according = to Peanut=20

 

This all = goes along=20 swell  Until the music stops

        then everyone must run and =  grab=20 and hug a stone =E2=80=A6

.anyone =  caught not hugging their = own =20 stone has to

        sit down (or worse.).. = depending on=20 what century we are talking about this might mean having to go live in = a red=20 state)

 

This goes = on  for quite some time until all = the=20 mommy's and daddy's are totally exhausted and have to put their feet = up and=20 drink martinis =E2=80=A6.hmmm she might be on to=20 = something  here=E2=80=A6PY

 ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C4FC14.26FA7470-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:49:13 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Music in stone MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105930153" -------------------------------1105930153 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/16/2005 9:42:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Singing stone is just outside Gomez Fariez (sp?) Mexico. look for a chimney hole. Work your way down feet against stone in front jamming back against stone behind. I'll take your word for it. The rope was a good idea. I bet it was. Small space maybe 12 x 10 starting at 12' under. One lonely stalagmite. Tap with 12" dock spike it becomes a bell. Shown to me by one of my dads graduate students who later went down with Air Florida into the frozen Potomac. Oh, boy. Hope he made it. I felt the singing concrete some years later on the old Montauk Highway on out past the unhamptons shortly before and above Hitherhills in a WWII bunker beautifully crafted to look like a abandoned farmhouse, complete with askew shutters and slipped clapboard. Interesting use of concrete and camouflage. We discovered singing loudly and intune on note would vibrate the entire structure and this was only a few years after levitating the Pentagon But Ken would have us believe it was planned that way, rather than a coincidence. rolling stoned You may not be the only one who was. creighton Ralph -------------------------------1105930153 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/16/2005 9:42:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>
Singing stone is just outside Gomez Fariez (sp?) Mexico. look for a=20 chimney hole. Work your way down feet against stone in front jamming back=20 against stone behind. I'll take your word for it. The rop= e=20 was a good idea. I bet it was. Small space maybe 12 x 10=20 starting at 12' under. One lonely stalagmite. Tap with 12" dock spike it=20 becomes a bell. Shown to me by one of my dads graduate students who later=20= went=20 down with Air Florida into the frozen Potomac. Oh, boy.  Hope= he=20 made it.
    I felt the singing concrete some years later = on=20 the old Montauk Highway on out past the unhamptons shortly before and abov= e=20 Hitherhills in a WWII bunker beautifully crafted to look like a abandoned=20 farmhouse, complete with askew shutters and slipped clapboard.=20 Interesting use of concrete and camouflage.  We=20 discovered singing loudly and intune on note would vibrate the entire=20 structure and this was only a few years after levitating the Pentagon=20 But Ken would have us believe it was planned that way, rather than= a=20 coincidence.
rolling stoned You may not be the only one who was.=20
creighton  Ralph
 
 -------------------------------1105930153-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:35:08 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: stone tome MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105932908" -------------------------------1105932908 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en =20 This was reported to me as coming in garbled =20 so I try =E2=80=A6. once more ..lodge members..=20 Inspired by kens /Cuyler post about stone=20 Stone Tome =20 I've =20 sat on benches of stone I=20 walked on stone =20 eaten off tables of stone , =20 and washed=20 my feet and hands =20 in bowls=E2=80=A6=20 . of stone =20 - =20= =20 Ive Slept on stone =20= =20 =20 drank from stone , =20 cooked in stone =20 and made love to stone =20 I've seen bugs in stone =20 tar in stone=20 Shells i n stone and ..IT.,,,,,written in stone =20 Ive climbed =20 Sandstone mountains=20 And terra-cotta fountains=20 Cut pinks and reds =20 Stone some heads =20 Ive seen=20 Marble bend =20 And granite hinge =20 Slate stone Hovels =20 And limestone grottos=20 Ive=20 slipped on stone =20 pissed off stone=20 kicked some stone =20 with little to =20 atone =20 Ive made =20 monuments in stone=20 And homes of stone=20 Carved in halls=20 And broken balls =20 So=20 Let The chisels ring =20 And the masons sing =20 When there is free beer =20 On the morrow =20 Ill take my stone =20 And sail on home =20 To Cathedrals wild blue yonder =20 Py=20 .. -------------------------------1105932908 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en

This was reporte= d to=20 me as coming in garbled

so I try =E2=80= =A6. once more=20 ..lodge members..

 

 Inspired b= y kens=20 /Cuyler post about stone

 

Stone Tome  

 

I've 
s= at on=20 benches of  stone           =20             &nbs= p;       =20  I

walked on stone&= nbsp;=20                      = =20             &nbs= p;        =20  
eaten off tables of stone ,         = =20    =20             &nbs= p;      =20             &nbs= p;=20
and washed

 my feet and  hands   = ;=20             &nbs= p;       =20  

in=20 bowls=E2=80=A6

. of stone = =20                      = =20     

  &nbs= p;            &n= bsp;            =             &nbs= p;            &n= bsp;            =      =20

  &nbs= p;            &n= bsp;            =             &nbs= p;            &n= bsp;            =      -       &nb= sp;            &= nbsp;            = ;            &nb= sp;            &= nbsp;            = ;   =20  

Ive=20             &nbs= p;            &n= bsp;            =             &nbs= p;            &n= bsp;            =             &nbs= p;            &n= bsp;            =             &nbs= p;            &n= bsp;            =             &nbs= p;            &n= bsp;  Slept on=20 stone            = ;            &nb= sp;            &= nbsp;            = ;            &nb= sp;     
drank=20 from stone=20 ,            &nb= sp;            &= nbsp;  =20  
cooked in stone             =20                   =20             &nbs= p;       =20
and made love to stone  

 

   I'v= e seen=20 bugs in stone 

tar in=20 stone

Shells i n=20 stone
and  ..IT.,,,,,written in stone 

 

Ive climbed=20

Sandstone=20 mountains

And terra-cotta=20 fountains

Cut pinks and re= ds=20

Stone some heads= =20

 

 

Ive=20 seen

Marble bend=20

And granite hing= e=20        = ;            &nb= sp;            &= nbsp;            = ; 

Slate stone Hove= ls=20

And limestone=20 grottos

 

 

 

Ive

 slipped on=20 stone            = ;            &nb= sp;            &= nbsp;            = ;

 pissed off= =20 stone

 kicked some stone=20             &nbs= p;            &n= bsp;            =             &nbs= p;            &n= bsp;            =   

with little to=20

atone        = ;            &nb= sp;         <= /P>

 

  =20

 

 

Ive made=20

monuments in=20 stone

And homes of=20 stone

Carved in=20 halls

And broken balls= =20

 

So

Let The chisels<= SPAN=20 style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">  ring

And the masons s= ing=20

When there is fr= ee=20 beer

On the morrow=20

 

Ill take my ston= e=20

And sail  on home

To Cathedrals  wild blue yonder  

  

 Py

 

 

..
 -------------------------------1105932908-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 07:47:49 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: piobareachd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Changing the flat tire in the cold most likely is causing your confusion. - Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Callan" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 09:33 Subject: Re: [BP] piobareachd > Apparently there are some intelligent designers among us. I thought > God said she wasn't going to do the flood thing again. My only > exposure to folks who took the Bible literally until I went off to > college was in the movie Inherit the Wind. Back then my father was a > conservative Republican. I'm so very confused. > > Sure is cold out. I picked yesterday evening to get a flat tire. Sure > is cold out. > > -jc > > > On Jan 16, 2005, at 8:19 AM, Gabriel Orgrease wrote: > > >>> The Indonesian tsunami was a geophysical composition of god gone > >>> awry? > >>> Tectonic plates as tuning forks. > >>> > >>> > >> > >> Exactly! The waves were merely the cresendo > >> > > Yes, it made for quite a jammin' bash. > > > > ][< > > > > -- > > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > > > > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 07:50:21 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: piobareachd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0070_01C4FC69.324784D0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0070_01C4FC69.324784D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 09:51 Subject: Re: [BP] piobareachd In a message dated 1/16/2005 4:38:15 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: Ralph, And the damned short-man dancing was caught on video to boot. And = you haven't destroyed this video? You know that you are really getting to be difficult about the prehistoric sonics. Well, I'm difficult about MANY things, so what's = another? Especially something as absurd as this. I suppose they = invented differential calculus and made batteries for their spaceships = to the moon, too. I suppose next your going to tell me that Fred Flintstone was NOT an Hebrew despite the evidence of stone knives? Although I have no = reason to believe that Fred was an Hebraic person, I can tell you that = on German TV he's called Fritz Feuerstein, which certainly has a more = Hebraic sound to it, and is a direct translation. This is as opposed to = Donald Duck, who is called Gustav Ganz, which translates as Gus Goose. = Fred's boss, Mr. Slate, always looked sort of Jewish (and looked a lot = like my father, now that you mention it) to me, which would fit with his = being a capitalist and all. Actually, Fred Flintstone looks and acts a = lot like my father. Small world. The Indonesian tsunami was a geophysical composition of god gone = awry? It was an earth fart. As opposed to a brain fart. Tectonic plates as tuning forks. Giddadaheah. ][<* Ralph Pam ------=_NextPart_000_0070_01C4FC69.324784D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]=20
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005=20 09:51
Subject: Re: [BP] = piobareachd

In a message dated 1/16/2005 4:38:15 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask]=20 writes:
Ralph,

And the damned short-man dancing was caught = on video to=20 boot. And you haven't destroyed this = video?

You know=20 that you are really getting to be difficult about the
prehistoric = sonics.=20 Well, I'm difficult about MANY things, so what's = another? =20 Especially something as absurd as this.  I suppose they = invented=20 differential calculus and made batteries for their spaceships to the = moon,=20 too.
I suppose next your going to tell me that Fred = Flintstone=20 was NOT an
Hebrew despite the evidence of stone knives? = Although=20 I have no reason to believe that Fred was an Hebraic person, I = can tell=20 you that on German TV he's called Fritz Feuerstein, which certainly = has a=20 more Hebraic sound to it, and is a direct translation.  This is = as=20 opposed to Donald Duck, who is called Gustav Ganz, which translates = as Gus=20 Goose.  Fred's boss, Mr. Slate, always looked sort of Jewish = (and=20 looked a lot like my father, now that you mention it) to me, which = would fit=20 with his being a capitalist and all.  Actually,=20 Fred Flintstone looks and acts a lot like my father.  Small=20 world.

The Indonesian tsunami was a = geophysical=20 composition of god gone awry? It was an earth fart.  As = opposed=20 to a brain fart.
Tectonic plates as tuning forks. =20 Giddadaheah.

][<*  = Ralph Pam
 
------=_NextPart_000_0070_01C4FC69.324784D0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 07:54:54 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: An urgent debate MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0088_01C4FC69.D5114160" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0088_01C4FC69.D5114160 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This would be a tough choice. Does one need to point to Mecca while = sitting on the bowl, or while standing in front of the bowl? If they = were a drinking lot, then kneeling to the porcelain god could also have = a say in the proper placement of a toilet. - Pam ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Met History=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 18:26 Subject: Re: [BP] An urgent debate In a message dated 1/13/05 7:14:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: I met an American architect who had done a considerable amount of = work in Qatar. He had a curious problem in that what was wanted by the = people in Qatar was the replication of American sprawling suburb, the sort = of developments that would have clover-leafs, curved and branched side streets ending in small circles. They had the money for it, and that = is what they wanted. The difficulty he expressed was that the = orientation of the toilets towards Mecca all had to all of them be the same, what is the direction of a toilet? christopher ------=_NextPart_000_0088_01C4FC69.D5114160 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This would be a tough choice.  = Does one need=20 to point to Mecca while sitting on the bowl, or while standing in front = of the=20 bowl?  If they were a drinking lot, then kneeling to the porcelain = god=20 could also have a say in the proper placement of a toilet.
 
- Pam
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From:=20 [log in to unmask] href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Met = History=20
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005=20 18:26
Subject: Re: [BP] An urgent = debate

In a message dated 1/13/05 7:14:03 = AM Eastern=20 Standard Time, [log in to unmask]=20 writes:

I met an American architect who had done a considerable = amount=20 of work
in Qatar. He had a curious problem in that what was = wanted by the=20 people
in Qatar was the replication of American sprawling suburb, = the=20 sort of
developments that would have clover-leafs, curved and = branched=20 side
streets ending in small circles. They had the money for it, = and that=20 is
what they wanted. The difficulty he expressed was that the=20 orientation
of the toilets towards Mecca all had to all of them = be the=20 same,

what is the direction of a toilet?  = christopher=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0088_01C4FC69.D5114160-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 07:55:20 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: An urgent debate MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0092_01C4FC69.E483E030" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0092_01C4FC69.E483E030 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You may find an answer on the site for the World Federation of Toilets. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Met History=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 18:26 Subject: Re: [BP] An urgent debate In a message dated 1/13/05 7:14:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: I met an American architect who had done a considerable amount of = work in Qatar. He had a curious problem in that what was wanted by the = people in Qatar was the replication of American sprawling suburb, the sort = of developments that would have clover-leafs, curved and branched side streets ending in small circles. They had the money for it, and that = is what they wanted. The difficulty he expressed was that the = orientation of the toilets towards Mecca all had to all of them be the same, what is the direction of a toilet? christopher ------=_NextPart_000_0092_01C4FC69.E483E030 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
You may find an answer on the site for = the World=20 Federation of Toilets.
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To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005=20 18:26
Subject: Re: [BP] An urgent = debate

In a message dated 1/13/05 7:14:03 = AM Eastern=20 Standard Time, [log in to unmask]=20 writes:

I met an American architect who had done a considerable = amount=20 of work
in Qatar. He had a curious problem in that what was = wanted by the=20 people
in Qatar was the replication of American sprawling suburb, = the=20 sort of
developments that would have clover-leafs, curved and = branched=20 side
streets ending in small circles. They had the money for it, = and that=20 is
what they wanted. The difficulty he expressed was that the=20 orientation
of the toilets towards Mecca all had to all of them = be the=20 same,

what is the direction of a toilet?  = christopher=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0092_01C4FC69.E483E030-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 08:42:18 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: urgent/why toilets matter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105969338" -------------------------------1105969338 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't know about you;but the last time I wuz over there (North Africa) and I had to put one through the hoop......I wuz given an old green glass coke bottle with water....(and this was in an upscale neighborhood) When I got to the sanctuary and finished my meditation; I looked around for the Charmin; then looked back at the Coke bottle ; ...then had one of those Newtonian revelations about what to do with the water .... next day I witnessed the "Honey wagon" pulled by a team of donkeys unloading the night deposits in a little alley behind the residence. When asked where the donkeys took said night soil I was shown a municipal garden of fresh fruits and date palms in the middle o f the city .........this was after I had devoured several slices of the best melon the region had to offer . As to the shitters direction.......I don't know ...it was dark...and holey.Py -------------------------------1105969338 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I don't know about you;but the last time I wuz over there (North=20 Africa)
and I had to put one through the hoop......I wuz given an old green gla= ss=20 coke bottle with water....(and this was in an upscale neighborhood)
 
When I got to the sanctuary and finished my meditation; I looked around= for=20 the Charmin; then looked back at the Coke bottle ;
...then had one of those Newtonian revelations about what to do with th= e=20 water ....
 
next day I witnessed the "Honey wagon" pulled by a team of donkeys=20 unloading the night deposits in a little alley behind the residence.
When asked where the donkeys took said night soil I was shown a=20 municipal  garden of fresh fruits and date palms in the middle o f the=20= city=20 .........this was after I had devoured several slices of the best melon the=20 region had to offer .
 
As to the shitters direction.......I don't know  ...it was dark...= and=20 holey.Py 
 -------------------------------1105969338-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 08:45:41 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: An urgent debate In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Met History wrote: > In a message dated 1/13/05 7:14:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, > [log in to unmask] writes: > >> I met an American architect who had done a considerable amount of work >> in Qatar. He had a curious problem in that what was wanted by the people >> in Qatar was the replication of American sprawling suburb, the sort of >> developments that would have clover-leafs, curved and branched side >> streets ending in small circles. They had the money for it, and that is >> what they wanted. The difficulty he expressed was that the orientation >> of the toilets towards Mecca all had to all of them be the same, > > > > what is the direction of a toilet? christopher Well, I'm still perplexed by it, but I was told w/ the rear of the body facing Mecca as it would be a disrespect for the person to face Mecca. I've been seeking a second source on this information. So there is this situation of nondescript suburban sprawl cookie-cutter houses that suddenly have to be explicit in their place and orientation. Do you turn the footprint of the house? Do you redesign the itnerior to have crooked walls? Do you install toilets that are adjustable? I also was amazed to find out recently that churches are not considered as adequate for emergency shelters as are schools. It was a news piece on the TV about a town near Pasadena, TX where the fire chief was expressing his preparations for a terrorist event. Churches generally do not have a sufficient capacity of bathrooms. ][< -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 07:47:05 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: piobareachd In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Its much warmer today. We are going to have a balmy high of -6F. I should go shovel the pond while the snow is crispy. If I attribute my confusion to the cold, folks will assume that I am consistently confused. And if I am going to develop consistency in anything, I don't think confusion is my first choice. But, do we get to choose these things, or do they choose us? I sure hope I don't get another flat tire. -jc On Jan 17, 2005, at 6:47 AM, Pamela S. Follett wrote: > Changing the flat tire in the cold most likely is causing your > confusion. > > - Pam > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Callan" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 09:33 > Subject: Re: [BP] piobareachd > > >> Apparently there are some intelligent designers among us. I thought >> God said she wasn't going to do the flood thing again. My only >> exposure to folks who took the Bible literally until I went off to >> college was in the movie Inherit the Wind. Back then my father was a >> conservative Republican. I'm so very confused. >> >> Sure is cold out. I picked yesterday evening to get a flat tire. >> Sure >> is cold out. >> >> -jc >> >> >> On Jan 16, 2005, at 8:19 AM, Gabriel Orgrease wrote: >> >>>>> The Indonesian tsunami was a geophysical composition of god gone >>>>> awry? >>>>> Tectonic plates as tuning forks. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> Exactly! The waves were merely the cresendo >>>> >>> Yes, it made for quite a jammin' bash. >>> >>> ][< >>> >>> -- >>> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the >>> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: >>> >>> >> >> -- >> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the >> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: >> >> > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 08:48:01 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: stone tome In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Py, Send it to Tomas Lipps. ][< [log in to unmask] wrote: > This was reported to me as coming in garbled > > so I try …. once more ..lodge members.. > > > > Inspired by kens /Cuyler post about stone > > > > Stone Tome > > > > I've > sat on benches of stone I > > walked on stone > eaten off tables of stone , > > and washed > > my feet and hands > > in bowls… > > . of stone > > > > - > > > Ive > Slept > on > stone > drank from stone , > cooked in stone > and made love to stone > > > > I've seen bugs in stone > > tar in stone > > Shells i n stone > and ..IT.,,,,,written in stone > > > > Ive climbed > > Sandstone mountains > > And terra-cotta fountains > > Cut pinks and reds > > Stone some heads > > > > > > Ive seen > > Marble bend > > And granite hinge > > Slate stone Hovels > > And limestone grottos > > > > > > > > Ive > > slipped on stone > > pissed off stone > > kicked some stone > > > with little to > > atone > > > > > > > > > > Ive made > > monuments in stone > > And homes of stone > > Carved in halls > > And broken balls > > > > So > > Let The chisels ring > > And the masons sing > > When there is free beer > > On the morrow > > > > Ill take my stone > > And sail on home > > To Cathedrals wild blue yonder > > > > Py > > > > > > .. -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 08:03:21 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [BULK] Re: [BP] piobareachd In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0061_01C4FC6B.03415510" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0061_01C4FC6B.03415510 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of [log in to unmask] Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 9:32 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [BULK] Re: [BP] piobareachd Importance: Low In a message dated 1/15/2005 8:02:45 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Short jarheads dance at weddings on their knees (sorry, I know only a couple people will get that). I think we can figure it out, but can think of more enjoyable activities to perform on one's knees, even at a wedding. Why would anyone dance on his knees (maybe this is why ][
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Pre-patinated = plastic=20 gumby block w/ coin slot=20 [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of=20 [log in to unmask]
Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 9:32=20 AM
To: = [log in to unmask]
Subject:=20 [BULK] Re: [BP] piobareachd
Importance:=20 Low

In a message dated 1/15/2005 8:02:45 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
Short jarheads dance at weddings on their knees (sorry, I know = only a=20 couple people will get that). I think we can figure it = out,=20 but can think of more enjoyable activities to perform on one's = knees,=20 even at a wedding.  Why would anyone dance on his knees (maybe = this is=20 why ][<en is absolutely convinced that Fred Flintstone created = the=20 Symphony Space in Bedrock), and why didn't you run screaming = out of the=20 hall?  (As I = remember,=20 it was mom's back yard) 
The only tall(ish?) jarhead I know personally is in Iraq and = hanging=20 out with ambassadors.  He is much more the gentleman and = respects=20 people.  From this empirical evidence, one can only assume = height has=20 something to do with it. Absolutely.  How perceptive of = you.
Mr. 5'-11 = 1/2"
------=_NextPart_000_0061_01C4FC6B.03415510-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 10:07:41 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [BULK] Re: [BP] piobareachd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00E0_01C4FC7C.617665B0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00E0_01C4FC7C.617665B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jim - Ken was dancing like that at a wedding near Houston. The one in mom's = backyard didn't include dancing. - Pam ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jim Follett=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 09:03 Subject: Re: [BP] [BULK] Re: [BP] piobareachd -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot = [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of = [log in to unmask] Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 9:32 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [BULK] Re: [BP] piobareachd Importance: Low In a message dated 1/15/2005 8:02:45 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: Short jarheads dance at weddings on their knees (sorry, I know = only a couple people will get that). I think we can figure it out, but = can think of more enjoyable activities to perform on one's knees, even = at a wedding. Why would anyone dance on his knees (maybe this is why = ][
Jim -
 
Ken was dancing like that at a wedding near Houston.  The one = in mom's=20 backyard didn't include dancing.
 
- Pam
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Jim=20 Follett
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005=20 09:03
Subject: Re: [BP] [BULK] Re: = [BP]=20 piobareachd

 
-----Original Message-----
From: = Pre-patinated plastic=20 gumby block w/ coin slot=20 [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of = [log in to unmask]
Sent: = Saturday,=20 January 15, 2005 9:32 AM
To: BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]
Subject:=20 [BULK] Re: [BP] piobareachd
Importance:=20 Low

In a message dated 1/15/2005 8:02:45 A.M. Eastern Standard = Time, [log in to unmask]=20 writes:
Short jarheads dance at weddings on their knees (sorry, I = know only a=20 couple people will get that). I think we can figure = it out,=20 but can think of more enjoyable activities to perform on = one's knees,=20 even at a wedding.  Why would anyone dance on his knees = (maybe this=20 is why ][<en is absolutely convinced that Fred Flintstone = created the=20 Symphony Space in Bedrock), and why didn't you run screaming = out of=20 the hall?  = (As I=20 remember, it was mom's back yard) 
The only tall(ish?) jarhead I know personally is in Iraq and = hanging=20 out with ambassadors.  He is much more the gentleman and = respects=20 people.  From this empirical evidence, one can only assume = height has=20 something to do with it. Absolutely.  How perceptive = of=20 you.
Mr. 5'-11=20 1/2"
------=_NextPart_000_00E0_01C4FC7C.617665B0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 09:05:34 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [BULK] Re: [BP] piobareachd In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006E_01C4FC73.B3BA8300" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006E_01C4FC73.B3BA8300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't remember a whole lot of smiling going on at that wedding either, except over the beer, and the launching of helium filled trash bags, I hear, some of them are still tracked by NORAD. -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Pamela S. Follett Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 9:08 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BP] [BULK] Re: [BP] piobareachd Jim - Ken was dancing like that at a wedding near Houston. The one in mom's backyard didn't include dancing. - Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Follett To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 09:03 Subject: Re: [BP] [BULK] Re: [BP] piobareachd -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of [log in to unmask] Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 9:32 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [BULK] Re: [BP] piobareachd Importance: Low In a message dated 1/15/2005 8:02:45 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Short jarheads dance at weddings on their knees (sorry, I know only a couple people will get that). I think we can figure it out, but can think of more enjoyable activities to perform on one's knees, even at a wedding. Why would anyone dance on his knees (maybe this is why ][
I don't remember a whole lot of = smiling=20 going on at that wedding either, except over the beer, and=20 the launching of helium filled trash bags, I hear, some of them are = still=20 tracked by NORAD.
-----Original Message-----
From: Pre-patinated = plastic=20 gumby block w/ coin slot=20 [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of = Pamela=20 S. Follett
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 9:08 = AM
To:=20 [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [BP] = [BULK]=20 Re: [BP] piobareachd

Jim -
 
Ken was dancing like that at a wedding near Houston.  The = one in=20 mom's backyard didn't include dancing.
 
- Pam
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Jim=20 Follett
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Monday, January 17, = 2005=20 09:03
Subject: Re: [BP] [BULK] Re: = [BP]=20 piobareachd

 
-----Original Message-----
From: = Pre-patinated=20 plastic gumby block w/ coin slot=20 [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of = [log in to unmask]
Sent:=20 Saturday, January 15, 2005 9:32 AM
To: BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]
Subject:=20 [BULK] Re: [BP] piobareachd
Importance:=20 Low

In a message dated 1/15/2005 8:02:45 A.M. Eastern Standard = Time, [log in to unmask]=20 writes:
Short jarheads dance at weddings on their knees (sorry, I = know only=20 a couple people will get that). I think we can = figure it=20 out, but can think of more enjoyable activities to perform = on one's=20 knees, even at a wedding.  Why would anyone dance on his = knees=20 (maybe this is why ][<en is absolutely convinced that Fred = Flintstone=20 created the Symphony Space in Bedrock), and why didn't you = run=20 screaming out of the hall?  (As I remember, it was = mom's=20 back yard) 
The only tall(ish?) jarhead I know personally is in Iraq = and=20 hanging out with ambassadors.  He is much more the = gentleman and=20 respects people.  From this empirical evidence, one can = only assume=20 height has something to do with it. Absolutely.  = How=20 perceptive of you.
Mr. 5'-11=20 1/2"
<= /HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_006E_01C4FC73.B3BA8300-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 09:43:08 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: An urgent debate In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've heard that over here, not making a joke here, they all have to face to the east. -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Gabriel Orgrease Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 7:46 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BP] An urgent debate Met History wrote: > In a message dated 1/13/05 7:14:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, > [log in to unmask] writes: > >> I met an American architect who had done a considerable amount of work >> in Qatar. He had a curious problem in that what was wanted by the people >> in Qatar was the replication of American sprawling suburb, the sort of >> developments that would have clover-leafs, curved and branched side >> streets ending in small circles. They had the money for it, and that is >> what they wanted. The difficulty he expressed was that the orientation >> of the toilets towards Mecca all had to all of them be the same, > > > > what is the direction of a toilet? christopher Well, I'm still perplexed by it, but I was told w/ the rear of the body facing Mecca as it would be a disrespect for the person to face Mecca. I've been seeking a second source on this information. So there is this situation of nondescript suburban sprawl cookie-cutter houses that suddenly have to be explicit in their place and orientation. Do you turn the footprint of the house? Do you redesign the itnerior to have crooked walls? Do you install toilets that are adjustable? I also was amazed to find out recently that churches are not considered as adequate for emergency shelters as are schools. It was a news piece on the TV about a town near Pasadena, TX where the fire chief was expressing his preparations for a terrorist event. Churches generally do not have a sufficient capacity of bathrooms. ][< -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:45:28 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: An urgent debate MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I think the "they" that has to face east is The Tentheads when they commune with The Deity, and not their south (or north) elevations when they're checking the tile. My guess re: fixture orientation would be that the fixture should be installed on a north-south axis, rather than east-west, to avoid pissing off (or on) The Abovereferenced. Mr. Sensitive -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:52:49 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: An unguent debate MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105984369" -------------------------------1105984369 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Excuse me, but the last time the VI sought relief in the Mid-East it was into a hole in the floor which as far as I could determine had no particular orientation. How time change. VI -------------------------------1105984369 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Excuse me, but the last time the VI sought relief in the Mid-= East=20 it was into a hole in the floor which as far as I could determine had n= o=20 particular orientation. How time change.
 
VI
 -------------------------------1105984369-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:57:13 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: An unguent debate MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105984632" -------------------------------1105984632 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/17/2005 12:53:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Excuse me, but the last time the VI sought relief in the Mid-East it was into a hole in the floor which as far as I could determine had no particular orientation. How time change. VI In up-country Nigeria in 1975 there was no hole just a floor. signed, christopher, just back from missississippi, no i didn't get up to see peanut and father -------------------------------1105984632 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/17/2005 12:53:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, Twybil@= AOL.COM writes:
Excuse me, but the last time the VI sought relief in the Mid-= East it was into a hole in the floor which as far as I could determine=20= had no particular orientation. How time change.
 
VI
In up-country Nigeria in 1975 there was=20= no hole just a floor. 
 
signed, christopher, just back from miss= ississippi, no i didn't get up to see peanut and father
<= /HTML> -------------------------------1105984632-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:00:56 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: An unguent debate In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-7-976121254 --Apple-Mail-7-976121254 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Ah! The solution! Circular hole in circular seat with access from all=20= cardinal points. One might even inlay a compass in the surrounding=20 floor tile. Then invite someone over who you think has a better handle=20= on these things, and observe him/her with a hidden video camera. Its=20 all for a good cause, I suppose. Its good that people find interesting=20= things to occupy their waking hours. A window to East and West might be nice for folks who have to keep=20 track of sunset and sunrise, too. -jc On Jan 17, 2005, at 11:52 AM, [log in to unmask] wrote: > > Excuse me, but the last time the VI=A0sought relief=A0in the Mid-East = it=20 > was into a hole in the floor which as far as=A0I could determine had = no=20 > particular orientation. How time change. > =A0 > VI --Apple-Mail-7-976121254 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Ah! The solution! Circular hole in circular seat with access from all cardinal points. One might even inlay a compass in the surrounding floor tile. Then invite someone over who you think has a better handle on these things, and observe him/her with a hidden video camera. Its all for a good cause, I suppose. Its good that people find interesting things to occupy their waking hours. A window to East and West might be nice for folks who have to keep track of sunset and sunrise, too. -jc On Jan 17, 2005, at 11:52 AM, [log in to unmask] wrote: ArialExcuse me, but the last time the VI=A0sought relief=A0in the Mid-East it was into a = hole in the floor which as far as=A0I could determine had no particular orientation. How time = change. = Arial=A0 = ArialVI= = --Apple-Mail-7-976121254-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 12:04:33 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: An unguent debate In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-8-976338672 --Apple-Mail-8-976338672 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed About '75 I found a very nice porcelain hole in the floor in Malaysia. =20= It was kind of surprise, but not unpleasant. -jc On Jan 17, 2005, at 11:57 AM, Met History wrote: > In a message dated 1/17/2005 12:53:14 PM Eastern Standard Time,=20 > [log in to unmask] writes: > Excuse me, but the last time the VI=A0sought relief=A0in the Mid-East = it=20 > was into a hole in the floor which as far as=A0I could determine had = no=20 > particular orientation. How time change. > =A0 > VI > In up-country Nigeria in 1975 there was no hole just a floor.=A0 > =A0 > signed, christopher, just back from missississippi, no i didn't get up=20= > to see peanut and father --Apple-Mail-8-976338672 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 About '75 I found a very nice porcelain hole in the floor in Malaysia.=20= It was kind of surprise, but not unpleasant. -jc On Jan 17, 2005, at 11:57 AM, Met History wrote: ArialIn a message dated 1/17/2005 12:53:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] = writes: ArialExcuse me, but the last time the VI=A0sought relief=A0in the Mid-East it was into a = hole in the floor which as far as=A0I could determine had no particular orientation. How time = change. = Arial=A0 = ArialVI= In up-country Nigeria in 1975 there was no hole just a = floor.=A0 Arial=A0 signed, christopher, just back from missississippi, no i didn't get up to see peanut and father = --Apple-Mail-8-976338672-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:58:20 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: An unguent debate MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105995500" -------------------------------1105995500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bravo- real Funk-Shui! VI -------------------------------1105995500 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Bravo- real Funk-Shui!
 
VI
 -------------------------------1105995500-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 15:59:01 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: An unguent debate MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1105995541" -------------------------------1105995541 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/17/2005 1:05:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: About '75 I found a very nice porcelain hole in the floor in Malaysia. It was kind of surprise, but not unpleasant. With embossed feet or without? VI -------------------------------1105995541 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/17/2005 1:05:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>About=20 '75 I found a very nice porcelain hole in the floor in Malaysia.  It=20 was kind of surprise, but not unpleasant.
With embossed feet or without?
 
VI
-------------------------------1105995541-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:10:40 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: An unguent debate In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Cripes jc... ...over the last year I've been thinking of simple toilets and sun dials as two separate adventures and here you bring them all together! I'm really amazed at what you architects come up with. ][< John Callan wrote: > Ah! The solution! Circular hole in circular seat with access from all > cardinal points. One might even inlay a compass in the surrounding > floor tile. Then invite someone over who you think has a better handle > on these things, and observe him/her with a hidden video camera. Its > all for a good cause, I suppose. Its good that people find interesting > things to occupy their waking hours. > > A window to East and West might be nice for folks who have to keep > track of sunset and sunrise, too. > > -jc > > > On Jan 17, 2005, at 11:52 AM, [log in to unmask] wrote: > > > Excuse me, but the last time the VI sought relief in the Mid-East > it was into a hole in the floor which as far as I could determine > had no particular orientation. How time change. > > > > > > VI > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:13:23 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: An unguent debate In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Met History wrote: > Excuse me, but the last time the VI sought relief in the Mid-East > it was into a hole in the floor which as far as I could determine > had no particular orientation. How time change. > > VI > > In up-country Nigeria in 1975 there was no hole just a floor. > > signed, christopher, just back from missississippi, no i didn't get up > to see peanut and father If you know where to look you can find it in NYC. Good to read that you are back. Joyce Cary spent a good deal of time stuck in Nigeria. ][< -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 19:25:11 -0800 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: An unguent debate In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I may have said this before but I feel in now bears repeating. In days of old, when knights were bold and toilets weren't invented They dropped their load by the side of the road and walked away contented. At 12:04 PM -0600 1/17/05, John Callan wrote: About '75 I found a very nice porcelain hole in the floor in Malaysia. It was kind of surprise, but not unpleasant. -jc -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Dummerston, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:54:12 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: piobareachd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106020452" -------------------------------1106020452 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/17/2005 7:36:49 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Actually, Fred Flintstone looks and acts a lot like my father. Small world. Let's all join hands and sing....oops, wrong animated character company. Ralph -------------------------------1106020452 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/17/2005 7:36:49 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000=20 size=3D2>Actually, Fred Flintstone looks and= acts a=20 lot like my father.  Small=20 world.
Let's all join hands and sing....oops, wrong animated character= =20 company.
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1106020452-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:55:35 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: urgent/why toilets matter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106020535" -------------------------------1106020535 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/17/2005 8:42:50 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: I don't know about you;but the last time I wuz over there (North Africa) and I had to put one through the hoop......I wuz given an old green glass coke bottle with water....(and this was in an upscale neighborhood) When I got to the sanctuary and finished my meditation; I looked around for the Charmin; then looked back at the Coke bottle ; ...then had one of those Newtonian revelations about what to do with the water .... next day I witnessed the "Honey wagon" pulled by a team of donkeys unloading the night deposits in a little alley behind the residence. When asked where the donkeys took said night soil I was shown a municipal garden of fresh fruits and date palms in the middle o f the city .........this was after I had devoured several slices of the best melon the region had to offer . As to the shitters direction.......I don't know ...it was dark...and holey.Py Speaking of bringing up lunch... Ralph -------------------------------1106020535 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/17/2005 8:42:50 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>
I don't know about you;but the last time I wuz over there (North=20 Africa)
and I had to put one through the hoop......I wuz given an old green g= lass=20 coke bottle with water....(and this was in an upscale neighborhood)
 
When I got to the sanctuary and finished my meditation; I looked arou= nd=20 for the Charmin; then looked back at the Coke bottle ;
...then had one of those Newtonian revelations about what to do with=20= the=20 water ....
 
next day I witnessed the "Honey wagon" pulled by a team of donkeys=20 unloading the night deposits in a little alley behind the residence.
When asked where the donkeys took said night soil I was shown a=20 municipal  garden of fresh fruits and date palms in the middle o f th= e=20 city .........this was after I had devoured several slices of the best mel= on=20 the region had to offer .
 
As to the shitters direction.......I don't know  ...it was=20 dark...and holey.Py 
Speaking of bringing up lunch...
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1106020535-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:56:28 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: An unguent debate MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106020588" -------------------------------1106020588 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/17/2005 12:57:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: signed, christopher, just back from missississippi, no i didn't get up to see peanut and father Your loss. I was just in Minhattin, and didn't see you. Ralph -------------------------------1106020588 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/17/2005 12:57:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3D#= 000000=20 size=3D3>
signed, christopher, just back from=20 missississippi, no i didn't get up to see peanut and=20 father
Your loss.  I was just in Minhattin, and didn't see=20 you.
 
Ralph 
-------------------------------1106020588-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:30:37 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: An unguent debate MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106022637" -------------------------------1106022637 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/17/2005 8:10:58 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: I'm really amazed at what you architects come up with. They don't call us fart smellers fer nothin'. Ralph -------------------------------1106022637 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/17/2005 8:10:58 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>I'm=20 really amazed at what you architects come up with.
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They don't call us fart smellers fer nothin'.
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1106022637-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 08:02:13 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: An unguent debate MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The occupant would become a part of the sun dial - "Hey honey, what time is it?" "Hold on, let me go take a leak." - Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gabriel Orgrease" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 20:10 Subject: Re: [BP] An unguent debate > Cripes jc... > > ...over the last year I've been thinking of simple toilets and sun dials > as two separate adventures and here you bring them all together! > > I'm really amazed at what you architects come up with. > > ][< > > John Callan wrote: > > > Ah! The solution! Circular hole in circular seat with access from all > > cardinal points. One might even inlay a compass in the surrounding > > floor tile. Then invite someone over who you think has a better handle > > on these things, and observe him/her with a hidden video camera. Its > > all for a good cause, I suppose. Its good that people find interesting > > things to occupy their waking hours. > > > > A window to East and West might be nice for folks who have to keep > > track of sunset and sunrise, too. > > > > -jc > > > > > > On Jan 17, 2005, at 11:52 AM, [log in to unmask] wrote: > > > > > > Excuse me, but the last time the VI sought relief in the Mid-East > > it was into a hole in the floor which as far as I could determine > > had no particular orientation. How time change. > > > > > > > > > > > > VI > > > > > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:12:19 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: An unguent debate In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thank you. I am also amazed. But, the idea that is amazing you, is in YOUR mind's eye. Its pretty much a collaboration at this point. Sometimes while studying the photos in a certain magazine (usually the location relates to this thread), that I get for free the extortionists, I wonder why the designer doesn't appear to have any friends, who care enough about him/her to help develop the sketch. But, often when I've met these folks, and I don't want to hang out with them and I don't think most of my friends and colleagues would either. I just have very special friends and colleagues! The stop my stupid ideas, improve the mediocre ones, and make the good ones great. Most don't ask for much in return other than a little respect. Aretha On Jan 17, 2005, at 7:10 PM, Gabriel Orgrease wrote: > Cripes jc... > > ...over the last year I've been thinking of simple toilets and sun > dials > as two separate adventures and here you bring them all together! > > I'm really amazed at what you architects come up with. > > ][< > > John Callan wrote: > >> Ah! The solution! Circular hole in circular seat with access from all >> cardinal points. One might even inlay a compass in the surrounding >> floor tile. Then invite someone over who you think has a better handle >> on these things, and observe him/her with a hidden video camera. Its >> all for a good cause, I suppose. Its good that people find interesting >> things to occupy their waking hours. >> >> A window to East and West might be nice for folks who have to keep >> track of sunset and sunrise, too. >> >> -jc >> >> >> On Jan 17, 2005, at 11:52 AM, [log in to unmask] wrote: >> >> >> Excuse me, but the last time the VI sought relief in the Mid-East >> it was into a hole in the floor which as far as I could determine >> had no particular orientation. How time change. >> >> >> >> >> >> VI >> >> > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:20:03 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Embossed & Its an AOL problem Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed VI: I think I remember seeing ones that showed one where to place one's feet, but I'm not sure. If I photographed it, I have no intention of scrounging through 29 year old slides to try to find it. Pam: Did you suggest that my problem replying to Ralph might be an AOL problem? I seem to have it with [log in to unmask] too. Now I'm curious. But, I do not seem to have this problem with my Dad who is on AOL. I hate intermittent problems. -jc -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:33:12 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: music in life In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ken: When we were in Galveston, we probably drove past 15-20, the only sub-sonic around here is the kind in the trunk of a Japanese import, all bass, no treble. -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Gabriel Orgrease Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 9:32 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BP] music in life VERY super kool! Not been to one. Now I have a desire to find one! ][< (as the bridge wobbles) John Leeke, Preservation Consultant wrote: > >>I think it would be most interesting to use say in connection with an > earth sculpture or a composition of stone monoliths. Ultra-base. > People walking the site would feel the composition, the changes in > vibrations through their feet, but also through the aural experience as > the stones vibrate.<< > > > Last September I was driving around Tucson in my rental car with a > friend and pulled into a new, but retro-50s type drive in--kinda cool we > thought. As we sat there eating our dinner, we noticed the car was > shaking a bit, like the engine was still running, but it wasn't--sorta > like the boom-cars the kids drive these days, but much lower frequency. > I got out and walked around--definitely not a boom-car. We just couldn't > figure it out. > > Then I noticed the name of the place was "Sonic." Since then I've seen > the Sonic drive ins advertised. Have you been to one of these places? Do > they actually have a sub-sonic system of some sort that shakes the cars? > > > John > by hammer and hand great works do stand > by pen and thought best words are wrought > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:36:55 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: An urgent debate In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ken: One of the last places I would want to be during a terrorist attack would be Pasadena, great place to get petrochemical products, and the air's a little thick. -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Gabriel Orgrease Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 7:46 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BP] An urgent debate Met History wrote: > In a message dated 1/13/05 7:14:03 AM Eastern Standard Time, > [log in to unmask] writes: > >> I met an American architect who had done a considerable amount of work >> in Qatar. He had a curious problem in that what was wanted by the people >> in Qatar was the replication of American sprawling suburb, the sort of >> developments that would have clover-leafs, curved and branched side >> streets ending in small circles. They had the money for it, and that is >> what they wanted. The difficulty he expressed was that the orientation >> of the toilets towards Mecca all had to all of them be the same, > > > > what is the direction of a toilet? christopher Well, I'm still perplexed by it, but I was told w/ the rear of the body facing Mecca as it would be a disrespect for the person to face Mecca. I've been seeking a second source on this information. So there is this situation of nondescript suburban sprawl cookie-cutter houses that suddenly have to be explicit in their place and orientation. Do you turn the footprint of the house? Do you redesign the itnerior to have crooked walls? Do you install toilets that are adjustable? I also was amazed to find out recently that churches are not considered as adequate for emergency shelters as are schools. It was a news piece on the TV about a town near Pasadena, TX where the fire chief was expressing his preparations for a terrorist event. Churches generally do not have a sufficient capacity of bathrooms. ][< -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 08:43:24 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Names of Place X-cc: Carrie Berry <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT ...he had to get started on another trek into the countryside to survey the population and economy, and the geography as well. He unrolled the official maps of the country [British colonial Nigeria] which he was to survey, an area fairly new to him, and found that although they were all "white, clean & new," they were completely useless: "Towns abandoned for years are entered in large letters, generally by the wrong names — the towns that do exist aren't there — magnificent roads on the map are mere jungle in reality, and new important highways have been left out. Mountains are just put in with the eyes shut. I shall have to start mapping at once, as I have to send in maps with my reports." (23 October 1918). During his last tour he might have despaired over the useless maps and cursed the men who made them and the government which issued them, but now he treated the whole affair as a joke as he saw its ridiculous aspects. Apparently the "wrong names" that he mentions were the same sort of mistake he used in his novel /Castle Corner/, when Cock Jarvis is mapping in Nigeria. They were the fault of the language barrier, for the natives who were questioned about the names of their towns and rivers and mountains simply didn't know what was going on. So onto the official maps of Nigeria went What Did He Say? River and the town of I Don't Know. In early November Joyce set out to draw up his own maps. Joyce Cary, a Biography, by Malcolm Foster, p 178-179 -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:53:50 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Names of Place In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hmmmmmm. That's kind of amazing. Is that what is going on here? New=20= maps? -jc On Jan 18, 2005, at 7:43 AM, Gabriel Orgrease wrote: > ...he had to get started on another trek into the countryside to = survey > the population and economy, and the geography as well. He unrolled the > official maps of the country [British colonial Nigeria] which he was = to > survey, an area fairly new to him, and found that although they were=20= > all > "white, clean & new," they were completely useless: > > "Towns abandoned for years are entered in large letters, generally by > the wrong names =97 the towns that do exist aren't there =97 = magnificent > roads on the map are mere jungle in reality, and new important = highways > have been left out. Mountains are just put in with the eyes shut. I > shall have to start mapping at once, as I have to send in maps with my > reports." > > (23 October 1918). > > During his last tour he might have despaired over the useless maps and > cursed the men who made them and the government which issued them, but > now he treated the whole affair as a joke as he saw its ridiculous > aspects. Apparently the "wrong names" that he mentions were the same > sort of mistake he used in his novel /Castle Corner/, when Cock Jarvis > is mapping in Nigeria. They were the fault of the language barrier, = for > the natives who were questioned about the names of their towns and > rivers and mountains simply didn't know what was going on. So onto the > official maps of Nigeria went What Did He Say? River and the town of I > Don't Know. In early November Joyce set out to draw up his own maps. > > Joyce Cary, a Biography, by Malcolm Foster, p 178-179 > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:10:36 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Names of Place In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT John Callan wrote: > Hmmmmmm. That's kind of amazing. Is that what is going on here? New > maps? I often imagine that new maps is what is going on. ][< -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:13:34 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_e3.b1741d3.2f1e738e_boundary" --part1_e3.b1741d3.2f1e738e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/18/05 8:34:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > When we were in Galveston, we probably drove past 15-20, lots of Sonics from New Orleans to Natchez, perhaps a dozen, actual car service - looked like they had speakers. did not spot waitresses on skates, though. c --part1_e3.b1741d3.2f1e738e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 1/18/05 8:34:57=20= AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:

When we were in Galveston, we p= robably drove past 15-20,


lots of Sonics from New Orleans to Natchez, perhaps a dozen, actual car serv= ice - looked like they had speakers.  did not spot waitresses on skates= , though.

c --part1_e3.b1741d3.2f1e738e_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:16:41 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Names of Place MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_d.3bd99759.2f1e7449_boundary" --part1_d.3bd99759.2f1e7449_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/18/05 8:44:04 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > So onto the > official maps of Nigeria went What Did He Say? River and the town of I > Don't Know. In early November Joyce set out to draw up his own maps. paraphrase Conrad: "Maps! They wanted maps! As if maps could tell them anything." c --part1_d.3bd99759.2f1e7449_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 1/18/05 8:44:04=20= AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:

So onto the
official maps of Nigeria went What Did He Say? River and the town of I
Don't Know. In early November Joyce set out to draw up his own maps.

paraphrase Conrad:  "Maps!  They wanted maps!  As if maps cou= ld tell them anything."

c --part1_d.3bd99759.2f1e7449_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 08:20:46 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Names of Place In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Did you imagine this back in '95? -jc On Jan 18, 2005, at 8:10 AM, Gabriel Orgrease wrote: > John Callan wrote: > >> Hmmmmmm. That's kind of amazing. Is that what is going on here? New >> maps? > > I often imagine that new maps is what is going on. > > ][< > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:31:05 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: an urgent MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106058665" -------------------------------1106058665 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Many of you have followed my foibles upon building a pump house; Now inside said pump house I wish to install a commode ... .but to show off my "elite" education to the surrounding planter class of country rubes I wish to install a "Turkish toilet" ..... Those of you who have traveled the outback of the low country's , or climbed up the garret stairs to see Fi -Fi -la rue might know this marvelous one piece of white ceramic , The one where you do not sit but squat ...... This is a serious request :Looking for a fabricator of Turkish Toilets .....since Kohler makes a bidet ,why not a Turkish toilet . Py -------------------------------1106058665 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Many of you have followed my foibles upon building a pump hou= se;=20
Now inside said pump house I wish to install a commode ...
.but to show off my "elite" education to the  surrounding=20 planter class of country rubes
 I wish to install  a "Turkish toilet"
.....
Those of you who have traveled the outback of the low country's , or=20 climbed up the garret stairs to see Fi -Fi -la rue might know this=20 marvelous one piece of white ceramic ,
The one where you do not sit but squat ......
 
This is a serious request :Looking for a fabricator  of Turkish=20 Toilets .....since Kohler makes a bidet ,why not a Turkish toilet=20 .   Py
 -------------------------------1106058665-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 08:52:04 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: music in life In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0020_01C4FD3A.FB581200" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C4FD3A.FB581200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit They are all over the place down here, town of any size gets a Dairy Queen, then either a Sonic or Whataburger (Texas institution). The Sonics have car hops, and I have seen a few on skates, they are well known for their heavy us of neon. This became an issue with the first one that went in to Missouri City (a bedroom community to Houston, were the homestead is). The city is heavily zoned, unlike Houston, there was a major battle between the city council and Sonic management, Sonic lost. We have possibly the only Sonic in the chain without the trademark neon, not a great loss. BTY the food sucks. Jim -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Met History Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 8:14 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BP] music in life In a message dated 1/18/05 8:34:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: When we were in Galveston, we probably drove past 15-20, lots of Sonics from New Orleans to Natchez, perhaps a dozen, actual car service - looked like they had speakers. did not spot waitresses on skates, though. c ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C4FD3A.FB581200 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
They=20 are all over the place down here, town of any size gets a Dairy Queen, = then=20 either a Sonic or Whataburger (Texas institution). The Sonics have car = hops, and=20 I have seen a few on skates, they are well known for their heavy us of = neon.=20 This became an issue with the first one that went in to Missouri City (a = bedroom=20 community to Houston, were the homestead is). The city is heavily zoned, = unlike=20 Houston, there was a major battle between the city council and Sonic = management,=20 Sonic lost. We have possibly the only Sonic in the chain without the = trademark=20 neon, not a great loss. BTY the food sucks.
 
Jim 
-----Original Message-----
From: Pre-patinated = plastic gumby=20 block w/ coin slot = [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On=20 Behalf Of Met History
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 = 8:14=20 AM
To: = [log in to unmask]
Subject:=20 Re: [BP] music in life

In a = message dated=20 1/18/05 8:34:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:

When we were in Galveston, we probably drove past=20 15-20,


lots of Sonics from New Orleans to Natchez, = perhaps=20 a dozen, actual car service - looked like they had speakers.  did = not=20 spot waitresses on skates, though.

c=20
------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C4FD3A.FB581200-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:57:23 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Rudy Christian <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: an urgent In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01C4FD44.1D61F920" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C4FD44.1D61F920 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I wish to install a "Turkish toilet"< Here at the Center of the Universe we just call 'em turlets. Rudy ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C4FD44.1D61F920 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> I wish to install  a "Turkish toilet"<

 =

 =

Here at the = Center of the Universe we just call ‘em turlets.

 

        = ;    Rudy

------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C4FD44.1D61F920-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 10:16:27 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Bruce Marcham <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C4FD70.AE82ACC0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4FD70.AE82ACC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here in Syracuse we have a Delta Sonic which features a car wash with = attendants. It seems to be the place to get the gold trim on your = blinged-out Escalade polished. Greatly reduced gas price if you get your = car washed (serves, in my opinion, as a bit of a "bait and switch" = tactic to get people in), posted out front along with the "no car wash" = price--read the fine print. Any low-frequency vibrations may be the = workers' radios or people toweling off their rides outside. =20 Someone who had been down south proclaimed that those Sonics had the = best hamburgers, cheeseburgers, or hot dogs (I forget which). =20 An interesting web site if you like this sort of thing: http://www.gassigns.org/ =20 I was sad to see the passing of "Big Al's Get 'N' Go" in MacLean, NY. I = liked the name and their gas prices were good (I'm sure the people the = trailer park across the street appreciated the convenience mart too). =20 I'm a Get 'N' Go kinda guy... =20 -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot = [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Met = History Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 9:14 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BP] music in life In a message dated 1/18/05 8:34:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: When we were in Galveston, we probably drove past 15-20, lots of Sonics from New Orleans to Natchez, perhaps a dozen, actual car = service - looked like they had speakers. did not spot waitresses on = skates, though. c=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4FD70.AE82ACC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Here=20 in Syracuse we have a Delta Sonic which features a car wash with = attendants. It=20 seems to be the place to get the gold trim on your blinged-out Escalade=20 polished. Greatly reduced gas price if you get your car washed = (serves, in my opinion, as a bit of a "bait and switch" tactic to = get=20 people in), posted out front along with the "no car wash" price--read = the fine=20 print. Any low-frequency vibrations may be the workers' radios or people = toweling off their rides outside.
 
Someone who had been down south proclaimed that those Sonics = had the best=20 hamburgers, cheeseburgers, or hot dogs (I forget = which).
 
An=20 interesting web site if you like this sort of thing:
http://www.gassigns.org/
 
I was=20 sad to see the passing of "Big Al's Get 'N' Go" in MacLean, NY. I liked = the name=20 and their gas prices were good (I'm sure the people the trailer park = across the=20 street appreciated the convenience mart too).
 
I'm a=20 Get 'N' Go kinda guy...
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Pre-patinated = plastic gumby=20 block w/ coin slot = [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On=20 Behalf Of Met History
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 = 9:14=20 AM
To: = [log in to unmask]
Subject:=20 Re: [BP] music in life

In a = message dated=20 1/18/05 8:34:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:

When we were in Galveston, we probably drove past=20 15-20,


lots of Sonics from New Orleans to Natchez, = perhaps=20 a dozen, actual car service - looked like they had speakers.  did = not=20 spot waitresses on skates, though.

c=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4FD70.AE82ACC0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 10:51:51 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: an urgent MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106063510" -------------------------------1106063510 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Py, Sounds like a road trip to Paris flea markets!! Sign me up. VI -------------------------------1106063510 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Py,
 
Sounds like a road trip to Paris flea markets!! Sign me up.
 
VI
 -------------------------------1106063510-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 12:48:18 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: an urgent MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Kohler makes bidets because people want to think they're French. Kohler doesn't make Turkish Toilets because nobody wants to think they're Turks. You might try ebay, but I even if you can find such a thing, I think you're going to have problems with plumbing connections. To say nothing of building codes, but I don't suppose that's a major concern down in rural Mizippi. My advice is rough for a Real American water closet, and leave stubbed connections in case you ever find the Turkish variety. But it may take awhile. Reminds me of when my younger brother and his wife decided it would be a good idea to remove the cast iron plug from a grade-level 4" waste line cleanout, and teach their dog (not a Rottweiler, and this wasn't Perth Amboy) to shit in the pipe. Ralph -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 14:03:57 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Names of Place MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Just as Yucatan in Mayan means, "I don't understand what you're saying." - Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Callan" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 08:53 Subject: Re: [BP] Names of Place > Hmmmmmm. That's kind of amazing. Is that what is going on here? New > maps? > > -jc > > On Jan 18, 2005, at 7:43 AM, Gabriel Orgrease wrote: > > > ...he had to get started on another trek into the countryside to survey > > the population and economy, and the geography as well. He unrolled the > > official maps of the country [British colonial Nigeria] which he was to > > survey, an area fairly new to him, and found that although they were > > all > > "white, clean & new," they were completely useless: > > > > "Towns abandoned for years are entered in large letters, generally by > > the wrong names — the towns that do exist aren't there — magnificent > > roads on the map are mere jungle in reality, and new important highways > > have been left out. Mountains are just put in with the eyes shut. I > > shall have to start mapping at once, as I have to send in maps with my > > reports." > > > > (23 October 1918). > > > > During his last tour he might have despaired over the useless maps and > > cursed the men who made them and the government which issued them, but > > now he treated the whole affair as a joke as he saw its ridiculous > > aspects. Apparently the "wrong names" that he mentions were the same > > sort of mistake he used in his novel /Castle Corner/, when Cock Jarvis > > is mapping in Nigeria. They were the fault of the language barrier, for > > the natives who were questioned about the names of their towns and > > rivers and mountains simply didn't know what was going on. So onto the > > official maps of Nigeria went What Did He Say? River and the town of I > > Don't Know. In early November Joyce set out to draw up his own maps. > > > > Joyce Cary, a Biography, by Malcolm Foster, p 178-179 > > > > -- > > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > > > > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 14:10:46 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Embossed & Its an AOL problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit jc - I think I said it was probably something with your ISP, so AOL could be the culprit - I wasn't paying attention to which email you were using. For months my mother kept saying she was getting blank emails from me. Turns out, it was attachments I was forwarding that AOL was being nice enough not to send to her thinking they were all spam. I appreciated they were trying to keep her PC virus free, but I kept thinking she was just nuts and didn't know how to use her PC. Anyway, maybe AOL thinks Ralph is a virus and doesn't think your father is. I'm pretty sure that's what I've seen on one of their commercials recently - free virus protection, especially of the ralphian variety. - Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Callan" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 08:20 Subject: [BP] Embossed & Its an AOL problem > VI: I think I remember seeing ones that showed one where to place > one's feet, but I'm not sure. If I photographed it, I have no > intention of scrounging through 29 year old slides to try to find it. > > Pam: > > Did you suggest that my problem replying to Ralph might be an AOL > problem? I seem to have it with [log in to unmask] too. Now I'm curious. > But, I do not seem to have this problem with my Dad who is on AOL. I > hate intermittent problems. > > -jc > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 14:13:48 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_013D_01C4FD67.EDA467D0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_013D_01C4FD67.EDA467D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I heard a new interior decorating term the other day - "blingalism", = used by people who are tired of the minimalism thang. The description = was minimalism with gold accents. Personally, I'd love to have some = minimlaism in my life (not of the cash variety, tho). We have too much = stuff in every corner of the house. - Pam ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bruce Marcham=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 10:16 Subject: Re: [BP] music in life Here in Syracuse we have a Delta Sonic which features a car wash with = attendants. It seems to be the place to get the gold trim on your = blinged-out Escalade polished. ------=_NextPart_000_013D_01C4FD67.EDA467D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I heard a new interior decorating term = the other=20 day - "blingalism", used by people who are tired of the minimalism = thang. =20 The description was minimalism with gold accents.  Personally, I'd = love to=20 have some minimlaism in my life (not of the cash variety, tho).  We = have=20 too much stuff in every corner of the house.
 
- Pam
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 [log in to unmask] href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Bruce = Marcham=20
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 = 10:16
Subject: Re: [BP] music in = life

Here=20 in Syracuse we have a Delta Sonic which features a car wash with = attendants.=20 It seems to be the place to get the gold trim on your blinged-out = Escalade=20 polished. 
------=_NextPart_000_013D_01C4FD67.EDA467D0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 14:15:14 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0147_01C4FD68.20D395E0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0147_01C4FD68.20D395E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You still have Fuddrucker's down there? Last one I went into was some = where around DC - way too much grease, but the toppings are tasty. - Pam ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jim Follett=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 09:52 Subject: Re: [BP] music in life They are all over the place down here, town of any size gets a Dairy = Queen, then either a Sonic or Whataburger (Texas institution). The = Sonics have car hops, and I have seen a few on skates, they are well = known for their heavy us of neon. This became an issue with the first = one that went in to Missouri City (a bedroom community to Houston, were = the homestead is). The city is heavily zoned, unlike Houston, there was = a major battle between the city council and Sonic management, Sonic = lost. We have possibly the only Sonic in the chain without the trademark = neon, not a great loss. BTY the food sucks. Jim=20 -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot = [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Met = History Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 8:14 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BP] music in life In a message dated 1/18/05 8:34:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: When we were in Galveston, we probably drove past 15-20, lots of Sonics from New Orleans to Natchez, perhaps a dozen, actual = car service - looked like they had speakers. did not spot waitresses on = skates, though. c ------=_NextPart_000_0147_01C4FD68.20D395E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
You still have Fuddrucker's down = there?  Last=20 one I went into was some where around DC - way too much grease, but the = toppings=20 are tasty.
 
- Pam
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Jim=20 Follett
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 = 09:52
Subject: Re: [BP] music in = life

They=20 are all over the place down here, town of any size gets a Dairy Queen, = then=20 either a Sonic or Whataburger (Texas institution). The Sonics have car = hops,=20 and I have seen a few on skates, they are well known for their heavy = us of=20 neon. This became an issue with the first one that went in to Missouri = City (a=20 bedroom community to Houston, were the homestead is). The city is = heavily=20 zoned, unlike Houston, there was a major battle between the city = council and=20 Sonic management, Sonic lost. We have possibly the only Sonic in the = chain=20 without the trademark neon, not a great loss. BTY the food=20 sucks.
 
Jim 
-----Original Message-----
From: Pre-patinated = plastic=20 gumby block w/ coin slot=20 [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of = Met=20 History
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 8:14 = AM
To:=20 [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: = [BP] music=20 in life

In a = message dated 1/18/05=20 8:34:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] = writes:

When we were in Galveston, we probably drove past=20 15-20,


lots of Sonics from New Orleans to = Natchez,=20 perhaps a dozen, actual car service - looked like they had = speakers. =20 did not spot waitresses on skates, though.

c=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0147_01C4FD68.20D395E0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:05:07 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: music in life In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0072_01C4FD5E.55AF6E10" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0072_01C4FD5E.55AF6E10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sure Do, hey we're the "fattest" city in America. -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Pamela S. Follett Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 1:15 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BP] music in life You still have Fuddrucker's down there? Last one I went into was some where around DC - way too much grease, but the toppings are tasty. - Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Follett To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 09:52 Subject: Re: [BP] music in life They are all over the place down here, town of any size gets a Dairy Queen, then either a Sonic or Whataburger (Texas institution). The Sonics have car hops, and I have seen a few on skates, they are well known for their heavy us of neon. This became an issue with the first one that went in to Missouri City (a bedroom community to Houston, were the homestead is). The city is heavily zoned, unlike Houston, there was a major battle between the city council and Sonic management, Sonic lost. We have possibly the only Sonic in the chain without the trademark neon, not a great loss. BTY the food sucks. Jim -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Met History Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 8:14 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BP] music in life In a message dated 1/18/05 8:34:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: When we were in Galveston, we probably drove past 15-20, lots of Sonics from New Orleans to Natchez, perhaps a dozen, actual car service - looked like they had speakers. did not spot waitresses on skates, though. c ------=_NextPart_000_0072_01C4FD5E.55AF6E10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sure=20 Do, hey we're the "fattest" city in America.
-----Original Message-----
From: Pre-patinated = plastic gumby=20 block w/ coin slot = [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On=20 Behalf Of Pamela S. Follett
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, = 2005 1:15=20 PM
To: = [log in to unmask]
Subject:=20 Re: [BP] music in life

You still have Fuddrucker's down = there? =20 Last one I went into was some where around DC - way too much grease, = but the=20 toppings are tasty.
 
- Pam
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Jim=20 Follett
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, = 2005=20 09:52
Subject: Re: [BP] music in = life

They are all over the place down here, town of any size = gets a Dairy=20 Queen, then either a Sonic or Whataburger (Texas institution). The = Sonics=20 have car hops, and I have seen a few on skates, they are well known = for=20 their heavy us of neon. This became an issue with the first one that = went in=20 to Missouri City (a bedroom community to Houston, were the homestead = is).=20 The city is heavily zoned, unlike Houston, there was a major battle = between=20 the city council and Sonic management, Sonic lost. We have possibly = the only=20 Sonic in the chain without the trademark neon, not a great loss. BTY = the=20 food sucks.
 
Jim 
-----Original Message-----
From: Pre-patinated = plastic=20 gumby block w/ coin slot=20 [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of = Met=20 History
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 8:14 = AM
To:=20 [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: = [BP]=20 music in life

In a = message dated=20 1/18/05 8:34:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:

When we were in Galveston, we probably drove past=20 15-20,


lots of Sonics from New Orleans to = Natchez,=20 perhaps a dozen, actual car service - looked like they had = speakers. =20 did not spot waitresses on skates, though.

c=20
------=_NextPart_000_0072_01C4FD5E.55AF6E10-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:22:19 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: an urgent In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit reply to Ralph. -jc On Jan 18, 2005, at 11:48 AM, [log in to unmask] wrote: > Kohler makes bidets because people want to think they're French. > Kohler doesn't make Turkish Toilets because nobody wants to think > they're Turks. > > You might try ebay, but I even if you can find such a thing, I think > you're going to have problems with plumbing connections. To say > nothing of building codes, but I don't suppose that's a major concern > down in rural Mizippi. > > My advice is rough for a Real American water closet, and leave stubbed > connections in case you ever find the Turkish variety. But it may > take awhile. > > Reminds me of when my younger brother and his wife decided it would be > a good idea to remove the cast iron plug from a grade-level 4" waste > line cleanout, and teach their dog (not a Rottweiler, and this wasn't > Perth Amboy) to shit in the pipe. > > Ralph > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:25:52 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Embossed & Its an AOL problem In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pam, I think I have mislead you. When Ralph sends an email, I get it. Then I hit reply, and nothing happens. The next time I start the mail program, or reboot the computer, I a blank email addressed to Ralph that never was completed or sent. Now a new development. In order to get my facts straight to write the above, I went into the mail trash, opened an email from Ralph, hit reply, typed some nonesense and sent it. No problem. It seems that I need to trash Ralph if I want to reply to him. Interesting. -jc On Jan 18, 2005, at 1:10 PM, Pamela S. Follett wrote: > jc - > > I think I said it was probably something with your ISP, so AOL could > be the > culprit - I wasn't paying attention to which email you were using. For > months my mother kept saying she was getting blank emails from me. > Turns > out, it was attachments I was forwarding that AOL was being nice > enough not > to send to her thinking they were all spam. I appreciated they were > trying > to keep her PC virus free, but I kept thinking she was just nuts and > didn't > know how to use her PC. > > Anyway, maybe AOL thinks Ralph is a virus and doesn't think your > father is. > I'm pretty sure that's what I've seen on one of their commercials > recently - > free virus protection, especially of the ralphian variety. > > - Pam > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Callan" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 08:20 > Subject: [BP] Embossed & Its an AOL problem > > >> VI: I think I remember seeing ones that showed one where to place >> one's feet, but I'm not sure. If I photographed it, I have no >> intention of scrounging through 29 year old slides to try to find it. >> >> Pam: >> >> Did you suggest that my problem replying to Ralph might be an AOL >> problem? I seem to have it with [log in to unmask] too. Now I'm curious. >> But, I do not seem to have this problem with my Dad who is on AOL. I >> hate intermittent problems. >> >> -jc >> >> -- >> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the >> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: >> >> > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:28:30 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: music in life In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-1067775233 --Apple-Mail-1-1067775233 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed There's one near Sesame Place, near Philadelphia, might be closer to=20 you...and of course that information is about 15 years out of date. We have one here. You might want to wait until next week. Its a might=20= cold out now. In a week we are going to have a heat wave. The temps=20 will flirt with 0F. -jc On Jan 18, 2005, at 1:15 PM, Pamela S. Follett wrote: > You still have Fuddrucker's down there?=A0 Last one I went into was = some=20 > where around DC - way too much grease, but the toppings are tasty. > =A0 > - Pam > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jim Follett > To: [log in to unmask] > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 09:52 > Subject: Re: [BP] music in life > > They are all over the place down here, town of any size gets a Dairy=20= > Queen, then either a Sonic or Whataburger (Texas institution). The=20 > Sonics have car hops, and I have seen a few on skates, they are well=20= > known for their heavy us of neon. This became an issue with the first=20= > one that went in to Missouri City (a bedroom community to Houston,=20 > were the homestead is). The city is heavily zoned, unlike Houston,=20 > there was a major battle between the city council and Sonic=20 > management, Sonic lost. We have possibly the only Sonic in the chain=20= > without the trademark neon, not a great loss. BTY the food sucks. > =A0 > Jim=A0 > -----Original Message----- > From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot=20 > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Met=20 > History > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 8:14 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [BP] music in life > > In a message dated 1/18/05 8:34:57 AM Eastern Standard Time,=20 > [log in to unmask] writes: > > > When we were in Galveston, we probably drove past 15-20, > > > lots of Sonics from New Orleans to Natchez, perhaps a dozen, actual=20 > car service - looked like they had speakers.=A0 did not spot = waitresses=20 > on skates, though. > > c --Apple-Mail-1-1067775233 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 There's one near Sesame Place, near Philadelphia, might be closer to you...and of course that information is about 15 years out of date. We have one here. You might want to wait until next week. Its a might cold out now. In a week we are going to have a heat wave. The temps will flirt with 0F. -jc On Jan 18, 2005, at 1:15 PM, Pamela S. Follett wrote: ArialYou still have Fuddrucker's down there?=A0 Last one I went into was some where around DC - way too much grease, but the toppings are = tasty. =A0 Arial- = Pam Arial----- Original Message ----- Arial = From: 0000,0000,EEEEJim Follett = = ArialTo:Arial = 0000,0000,EEEEBULLAMA= [log in to unmask] = = ArialSent:= Arial Tuesday, January 18, 2005 09:52 = ArialSubject:Arial Re: [BP] music in life = Arial0000,0000,FFFFThey are all over the place down here, town of any size gets a Dairy Queen, then either a Sonic or Whataburger (Texas institution). The Sonics have car hops, and I have seen a few on skates, they are well known for their heavy us of neon. This became an issue with the first one that went in to Missouri City (a bedroom community to Houston, were the homestead is). The city is heavily zoned, unlike Houston, there was a major battle between the city council and Sonic management, Sonic lost. We have possibly the only Sonic in the chain without the trademark neon, not a great loss. BTY the food = sucks. =A0 = Arial0000,0000,FFFFJim=A0 Tahoma-----Original Message----- = TahomaFrom:Tahoma<= smaller> Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot = [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Met = History = TahomaSent:Tahoma<= smaller> Tuesday, January 18, 2005 8:14 = AM = TahomaTo:Tahoma = [log in to unmask] = TahomaSubject:Tahoma Re: [BP] music in = life ArialIn a message dated 1/18/05 8:34:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: ArialWhen we were in Galveston, we probably drove past = 15-20, Ariallots of Sonics from New Orleans to Natchez, perhaps a dozen, actual car service - looked like they had speakers.=A0 did not spot waitresses on skates, though. = Arialc<= /smaller> = --Apple-Mail-1-1067775233-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 14:49:34 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Embossed & Its an AOL problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LOL! I bet Ralph's never been so well trashed in his whole life. - Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Callan" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 14:25 Subject: Re: [BP] Embossed & Its an AOL problem > Pam, > > I think I have mislead you. When Ralph sends an email, I get it. Then > I hit reply, and nothing happens. The next time I start the mail > program, or reboot the computer, I a blank email addressed to Ralph > that never was completed or sent. > > Now a new development. In order to get my facts straight to write the > above, I went into the mail trash, opened an email from Ralph, hit > reply, typed some nonesense and sent it. No problem. It seems that I > need to trash Ralph if I want to reply to him. Interesting. > > -jc > > On Jan 18, 2005, at 1:10 PM, Pamela S. Follett wrote: > > > jc - > > > > I think I said it was probably something with your ISP, so AOL could > > be the > > culprit - I wasn't paying attention to which email you were using. For > > months my mother kept saying she was getting blank emails from me. > > Turns > > out, it was attachments I was forwarding that AOL was being nice > > enough not > > to send to her thinking they were all spam. I appreciated they were > > trying > > to keep her PC virus free, but I kept thinking she was just nuts and > > didn't > > know how to use her PC. > > > > Anyway, maybe AOL thinks Ralph is a virus and doesn't think your > > father is. > > I'm pretty sure that's what I've seen on one of their commercials > > recently - > > free virus protection, especially of the ralphian variety. > > > > - Pam > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John Callan" <[log in to unmask]> > > To: <[log in to unmask]> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 08:20 > > Subject: [BP] Embossed & Its an AOL problem > > > > > >> VI: I think I remember seeing ones that showed one where to place > >> one's feet, but I'm not sure. If I photographed it, I have no > >> intention of scrounging through 29 year old slides to try to find it. > >> > >> Pam: > >> > >> Did you suggest that my problem replying to Ralph might be an AOL > >> problem? I seem to have it with [log in to unmask] too. Now I'm curious. > >> But, I do not seem to have this problem with my Dad who is on AOL. I > >> hate intermittent problems. > >> > >> -jc > >> > >> -- > >> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > >> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > >> > >> > > > > -- > > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > > > > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 14:50:00 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: an urgent MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So, this is the trashed Ralph? ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Callan" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 14:22 Subject: Re: [BP] an urgent > reply to Ralph. > > -jc > > On Jan 18, 2005, at 11:48 AM, [log in to unmask] wrote: > > > Kohler makes bidets because people want to think they're French. > > Kohler doesn't make Turkish Toilets because nobody wants to think > > they're Turks. > > > > You might try ebay, but I even if you can find such a thing, I think > > you're going to have problems with plumbing connections. To say > > nothing of building codes, but I don't suppose that's a major concern > > down in rural Mizippi. > > > > My advice is rough for a Real American water closet, and leave stubbed > > connections in case you ever find the Turkish variety. But it may > > take awhile. > > > > Reminds me of when my younger brother and his wife decided it would be > > a good idea to remove the cast iron plug from a grade-level 4" waste > > line cleanout, and teach their dog (not a Rottweiler, and this wasn't > > Perth Amboy) to shit in the pipe. > > > > Ralph > > > > -- > > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > > > > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:37:47 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Embossed & Its an AOL problem In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >It seems that I need to trash Ralph if I want to reply to him. Interesting. Isn't that being a little rough on Ralph? -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of John Callan Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 1:26 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BP] Embossed & Its an AOL problem Pam, I think I have mislead you. When Ralph sends an email, I get it. Then I hit reply, and nothing happens. The next time I start the mail program, or reboot the computer, I a blank email addressed to Ralph that never was completed or sent. Now a new development. In order to get my facts straight to write the above, I went into the mail trash, opened an email from Ralph, hit reply, typed some nonesense and sent it. No problem. It seems that I need to trash Ralph if I want to reply to him. Interesting. -jc On Jan 18, 2005, at 1:10 PM, Pamela S. Follett wrote: > jc - > > I think I said it was probably something with your ISP, so AOL could > be the > culprit - I wasn't paying attention to which email you were using. For > months my mother kept saying she was getting blank emails from me. > Turns > out, it was attachments I was forwarding that AOL was being nice > enough not > to send to her thinking they were all spam. I appreciated they were > trying > to keep her PC virus free, but I kept thinking she was just nuts and > didn't > know how to use her PC. > > Anyway, maybe AOL thinks Ralph is a virus and doesn't think your > father is. > I'm pretty sure that's what I've seen on one of their commercials > recently - > free virus protection, especially of the ralphian variety. > > - Pam > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Callan" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 08:20 > Subject: [BP] Embossed & Its an AOL problem > > >> VI: I think I remember seeing ones that showed one where to place >> one's feet, but I'm not sure. If I photographed it, I have no >> intention of scrounging through 29 year old slides to try to find it. >> >> Pam: >> >> Did you suggest that my problem replying to Ralph might be an AOL >> problem? I seem to have it with [log in to unmask] too. Now I'm curious. >> But, I do not seem to have this problem with my Dad who is on AOL. I >> hate intermittent problems. >> >> -jc >> >> -- >> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the >> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: >> >> > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 14:43:35 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Names of Place In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT John Callan wrote: > Did you imagine this back in '95? jc, I'm not sure what I imagiend in '95, but I certainly did imagine something different than '94. Bullamanka = that place over that away but we are not sure. ][< -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:48:05 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: an urgent In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes. It would be odd indeed if the only way I could respond to Ralph was by trashing him first. Its not like I object to trashing Ralph, but it brings to mind Oscar, and Ralph is no Oscar. -jc On Jan 18, 2005, at 1:50 PM, Pamela S. Follett wrote: > So, this is the trashed Ralph? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Callan" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 14:22 > Subject: Re: [BP] an urgent > > >> reply to Ralph. >> >> -jc >> >> On Jan 18, 2005, at 11:48 AM, [log in to unmask] wrote: >> >>> Kohler makes bidets because people want to think they're French. >>> Kohler doesn't make Turkish Toilets because nobody wants to think >>> they're Turks. >>> >>> You might try ebay, but I even if you can find such a thing, I think >>> you're going to have problems with plumbing connections. To say >>> nothing of building codes, but I don't suppose that's a major concern >>> down in rural Mizippi. >>> >>> My advice is rough for a Real American water closet, and leave >>> stubbed >>> connections in case you ever find the Turkish variety. But it may >>> take awhile. >>> >>> Reminds me of when my younger brother and his wife decided it would >>> be >>> a good idea to remove the cast iron plug from a grade-level 4" waste >>> line cleanout, and teach their dog (not a Rottweiler, and this wasn't >>> Perth Amboy) to shit in the pipe. >>> >>> Ralph >>> >>> -- >>> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the >>> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: >>> >>> >> >> -- >> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the >> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: >> >> > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:51:24 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Names of Place In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Beginnings are hard to find in the rear view mirror, let alone the forces that made that moment, the moment. On Jan 18, 2005, at 1:43 PM, Gabriel Orgrease wrote: > John Callan wrote: > >> Did you imagine this back in '95? > > jc, > > I'm not sure what I imagiend in '95, but I certainly did imagine > something different than '94. > Bullamanka = that place over that away but we are not sure. > > ][< > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 16:14:43 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Embossed & Its a Ralph problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106082883" -------------------------------1106082883 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/18/2005 2:26:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: I think I have mislead you. When Ralph sends an email, I get it. Then I hit reply, and nothing happens. The next time I start the mail program, or reboot the computer, I a blank email addressed to Ralph that never was completed or sent. That's funny, when I get an email from Ralph I hit "delete" and it goes away...sometimes forever. Just kidding Ralph, but I could not resist. VI- President, Ralphophiles of America -------------------------------1106082883 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/18/2005 2:26:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
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I=20 think I have mislead you.  When Ralph sends an email, I get it. = =20 Then
I hit reply, and nothing happens.  The next time I start the=20 mail
program, or reboot the computer, I a blank email addressed to=20 Ralph
that never was completed or sent.
That's funny, when I get an email from Ralph I hit "delete" and it goes= =20 away...sometimes forever.
 
Just kidding Ralph, but I could not resist.
 
VI- President, Ralphophiles of America
-------------------------------1106082883-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 15:18:44 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: an urgent In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pam: Bill's response was the best one! Been Deleted -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Pamela S. Follett Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 1:50 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BP] an urgent So, this is the trashed Ralph? ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Callan" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 14:22 Subject: Re: [BP] an urgent > reply to Ralph. > > -jc > > On Jan 18, 2005, at 11:48 AM, [log in to unmask] wrote: > > > Kohler makes bidets because people want to think they're French. > > Kohler doesn't make Turkish Toilets because nobody wants to think > > they're Turks. > > > > You might try ebay, but I even if you can find such a thing, I think > > you're going to have problems with plumbing connections. To say > > nothing of building codes, but I don't suppose that's a major concern > > down in rural Mizippi. > > > > My advice is rough for a Real American water closet, and leave stubbed > > connections in case you ever find the Turkish variety. But it may > > take awhile. > > > > Reminds me of when my younger brother and his wife decided it would be > > a good idea to remove the cast iron plug from a grade-level 4" waste > > line cleanout, and teach their dog (not a Rottweiler, and this wasn't > > Perth Amboy) to shit in the pipe. > > > > Ralph > > > > -- > > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > > > > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 15:22:19 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: an urgent In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Ralphophiles of America" Wait by the mailbox, your application will arrive soon. -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Pamela S. Follett Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 1:50 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BP] an urgent So, this is the trashed Ralph? ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Callan" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 14:22 Subject: Re: [BP] an urgent > reply to Ralph. > > -jc > > On Jan 18, 2005, at 11:48 AM, [log in to unmask] wrote: > > > Kohler makes bidets because people want to think they're French. > > Kohler doesn't make Turkish Toilets because nobody wants to think > > they're Turks. > > > > You might try ebay, but I even if you can find such a thing, I think > > you're going to have problems with plumbing connections. To say > > nothing of building codes, but I don't suppose that's a major concern > > down in rural Mizippi. > > > > My advice is rough for a Real American water closet, and leave stubbed > > connections in case you ever find the Turkish variety. But it may > > take awhile. > > > > Reminds me of when my younger brother and his wife decided it would be > > a good idea to remove the cast iron plug from a grade-level 4" waste > > line cleanout, and teach their dog (not a Rottweiler, and this wasn't > > Perth Amboy) to shit in the pipe. > > > > Ralph > > > > -- > > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > > > > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 17:37:06 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01C3_01C4FD84.5449CE50" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01C3_01C4FD84.5449CE50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey, we beat you. Winter finally arrived up here and I think the = thermometer reached 3F this afternoon. Sign me, Glad I'm not from Fargo ----- Original Message -----=20 From: John Callan=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 14:28 Subject: Re: [BP] music in life There's one near Sesame Place, near Philadelphia, might be closer to = you...and of course that information is about 15 years out of date. We have one here. You might want to wait until next week. Its a might = cold out now. In a week we are going to have a heat wave. The temps will = flirt with 0F. -jc On Jan 18, 2005, at 1:15 PM, Pamela S. Follett wrote: You still have Fuddrucker's down there? Last one I went into was = some where around DC - way too much grease, but the toppings are tasty. =20 - Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Follett=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 09:52 Subject: Re: [BP] music in life They are all over the place down here, town of any size gets a Dairy = Queen, then either a Sonic or Whataburger (Texas institution). The = Sonics have car hops, and I have seen a few on skates, they are well = known for their heavy us of neon. This became an issue with the first = one that went in to Missouri City (a bedroom community to Houston, were = the homestead is). The city is heavily zoned, unlike Houston, there was = a major battle between the city council and Sonic management, Sonic = lost. We have possibly the only Sonic in the chain without the trademark = neon, not a great loss. BTY the food sucks. =20 Jim -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot = [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Met = History Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 8:14 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BP] music in life In a message dated 1/18/05 8:34:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: When we were in Galveston, we probably drove past 15-20, lots of Sonics from New Orleans to Natchez, perhaps a dozen, actual = car service - looked like they had speakers. did not spot waitresses on = skates, though. c ------=_NextPart_000_01C3_01C4FD84.5449CE50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey, we beat you.  Winter finally = arrived up=20 here and I think the thermometer reached 3F this afternoon.
 
Sign me,
Glad I'm not from Fargo
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">John Callan=20
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 = 14:28
Subject: Re: [BP] music in = life

There's one near Sesame Place, near Philadelphia, might = be=20 closer to you...and of course that information is about 15 years out = of=20 date.

We have one here. You might want to wait until next week. = Its a=20 might cold out now. In a week we are going to have a heat wave. The = temps will=20 flirt with 0F.

-jc

On Jan 18, 2005, at 1:15 PM, Pamela = S.=20 Follett wrote:

You = still=20 have Fuddrucker's down there?  Last one I went into was some = where=20 around DC - way too much grease, but the toppings are = tasty.

 
-=20 Pam

----- = Original=20 Message -----
From:=20 Jim = Follett =
To:= =20 [log in to unmask]<= ?/x-tad-smaller>=20
Sent:=20 Tuesday, January 18, 2005 = 09:52
Subject:=20 Re: [BP] music in = life

They=20 are all over the place down here, town of any size gets a Dairy = Queen, then=20 either a Sonic or Whataburger (Texas institution). The Sonics have = car hops,=20 and I have seen a few on skates, they are well known for their heavy = us of=20 neon. This became an issue with the first one that went in to = Missouri City=20 (a bedroom community to Houston, were the homestead is). The city is = heavily=20 zoned, unlike Houston, there was a major battle between the city = council and=20 Sonic management, Sonic lost. We have possibly the only Sonic in the = chain=20 without the trademark neon, not a great loss. BTY the food = sucks.

 
Jim<= ?/color>

-----Original=20 Message-----

From:=20 Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot=20 = [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On=20 Behalf Of Met = History

Sent:=20 Tuesday, January 18, 2005 8:14=20 AM

To:=20 = [log in to unmask]

Subject:=20 Re: [BP] music in = life


In=20 a message dated 1/18/05 8:34:57 AM Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:



When=20 we were in Galveston, we probably drove past = 15-20,



lots=20 of Sonics from New Orleans to Natchez, perhaps a dozen, actual car = service -=20 looked like they had speakers.  did not spot waitresses on = skates,=20 though.


c

------=_NextPart_000_01C3_01C4FD84.5449CE50-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 18:30:12 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Names of Place MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106091012" -------------------------------1106091012 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/18/2005 9:17:10 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: paraphrase Conrad: "Maps! They wanted maps! As if maps could tell them anything." Next they'll be claiming drawings are unimportant. Ralph -------------------------------1106091012 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/18/2005 9:17:10 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000=20 size=3D2>paraphrase Conrad:  "Maps!  They wanted maps!  As=20= if=20 maps could tell them anything."
Next they'll be claiming drawings are unimportant.
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1106091012-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 18:31:57 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106091117" -------------------------------1106091117 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/18/2005 9:54:54 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: They are all over the place down here, town of any size gets a Dairy Queen, then either a Sonic or Whataburger (Texas institution). They had Whataburger in Arizona in my yout', but not in California. Wonder whether they worked their way west or east. Ralph -------------------------------1106091117 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/18/2005 9:54:54 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size= =3D2>The= y are all=20 over the place down here, town of any size gets a Dairy Queen, then either= a=20 Sonic or Whataburger (Texas institution).=20
They had Whataburger in Arizona in my yout', but not in California.&nbs= p;=20 Wonder whether they worked their way west or east.
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1106091117-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 18:34:20 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: an urgent MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106091260" -------------------------------1106091260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/18/2005 10:53:13 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Py, Sounds like a road trip to Paris flea markets!! Sign me up. VI Py might find his Turkish Terlit in France, but you could include me out. Paris Texas, maybe. Ralph -------------------------------1106091260 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/18/2005 10:53:13 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>
Py,
 
Sounds like a road trip to Paris flea markets!! Sign me up.
 
VI
Py might find his Turkish Terlit in France, but you could include me=20 out.  Paris Texas, maybe.
 
Ralph
 
 
-------------------------------1106091260-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 18:35:51 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: music in life In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT [log in to unmask] wrote: > In a message dated 1/18/2005 9:54:54 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > [log in to unmask] writes: > > They are all over the place down here, town of any size gets a > Dairy Queen, then either a Sonic or Whataburger (Texas institution). > > They had Whataburger in Arizona in my yout', but not in California. > Wonder whether they worked their way west or east. > > Ralph Whatawaytogo? Who needs a map? ][< -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 18:36:30 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Embossed & Its a Ralph problem In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT [log in to unmask] wrote: > In a message dated 1/18/2005 2:26:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > [log in to unmask] writes: > > > I think I have mislead you. When Ralph sends an email, I get it. > Then > I hit reply, and nothing happens. The next time I start the mail > program, or reboot the computer, I a blank email addressed to Ralph > that never was completed or sent. > > That's funny, when I get an email from Ralph I hit "delete" and it > goes away...sometimes forever. > > Just kidding Ralph, but I could not resist. > > VI- President, Ralphophiles of America Who is this Ralph? -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 18:37:46 -0500 Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: ddiaz <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: an urgent In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------000001000106020001060609" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000001000106020001060609 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit tried that with a dog I had. then I came down one morning and he was drinking coffee, smoking my last butt and reading the comics so I shot him.. or was that my younger brother? >>> >>>Reminds me of when my younger brother and his wife decided it would be >>>a good idea to remove the cast iron plug from a grade-level 4" waste >>>line cleanout, and teach their dog (not a Rottweiler, and this wasn't >>>Perth Amboy) to shit in the pipe. >>> >>>Ralph >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > >-- >To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the >uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > > > -- J.A. Drew Diaz EDGE Development Construction Suite 1205 150 W 28th St NY, NY 10001 t 212.741.7348 f 212.741.7423 c 917.971.1577 e [log in to unmask] w edgedc.com --------------000001000106020001060609 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit tried that with a dog I had.
then I came down one morning and he was drinking coffee, smoking my last butt and reading the comics so I shot him..
or was that my younger brother?
[log in to unmask]" type="cite"> 

Reminds me of when my younger brother and his wife decided it would be
a good idea to remove the cast iron plug from a grade-level 4" waste
line cleanout, and teach their dog (not a Rottweiler, and this wasn't
Perth Amboy) to shit in the pipe.

Ralph

      

    

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J.A. Drew Diaz

EDGE Development Construction

Suite 1205

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NY, NY 10001

 

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f 212.741.7423

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--------------000001000106020001060609-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 18:40:17 -0500 Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: ddiaz <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Embossed & Its a Ralph problem In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------090200080700050807090902" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090200080700050807090902 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Replying to Ralph is sort of like believing that God has a favorite color.. 1st you have to believe their is a god and then consider what kind of taste he/she might have... Gabriel Orgrease wrote: > [log in to unmask] wrote: > >> In a message dated 1/18/2005 2:26:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, >> [log in to unmask] writes: >> >> >> I think I have mislead you. When Ralph sends an email, I get it. >> Then >> I hit reply, and nothing happens. The next time I start the mail >> program, or reboot the computer, I a blank email addressed to Ralph >> that never was completed or sent. >> >> That's funny, when I get an email from Ralph I hit "delete" and it >> goes away...sometimes forever. >> >> Just kidding Ralph, but I could not resist. >> >> VI- President, Ralphophiles of America > > > Who is this Ralph? > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- J.A. Drew Diaz EDGE Development Construction Suite 1205 150 W 28th St NY, NY 10001 t 212.741.7348 f 212.741.7423 c 917.971.1577 e [log in to unmask] w edgedc.com --------------090200080700050807090902 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Replying to Ralph is sort of like believing that God has a favorite color..
1st you have to believe their is a god and then consider what kind of taste he/she might have...

Gabriel Orgrease wrote:
[log in to unmask]" type="cite">[log in to unmask] wrote:

In a message dated 1/18/2005 2:26:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:


    I think I have mislead you.  When Ralph sends an email, I get it.
    Then
    I hit reply, and nothing happens.  The next time I start the mail
    program, or reboot the computer, I a blank email addressed to Ralph
    that never was completed or sent.

That's funny, when I get an email from Ralph I hit "delete" and it
goes away...sometimes forever.

Just kidding Ralph, but I could not resist.

VI- President, Ralphophiles of America

Who is this Ralph?

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--------------090200080700050807090902-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 18:47:20 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Embossed & Its an AOL problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106092040" -------------------------------1106092040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/18/2005 2:26:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: It seems that I need to trash Ralph if I want to reply to him. Interesting. Been in touch with ex-Mrs. Ralph, huh? Ralph -------------------------------1106092040 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/18/2005 2:26:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>It seems=20 that I
need to trash Ralph if I want to reply to him. =20 Interesting.
Been in touch with ex-Mrs. Ralph, huh?
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1106092040-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 18:48:26 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Embossed & Its an AOL problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106092106" -------------------------------1106092106 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/18/2005 2:36:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: LOL! I bet Ralph's never been so well trashed in his whole life. - Pam No, ex-Mrs.-Ralph did a pretty good job. Ralph -------------------------------1106092106 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/18/2005 2:36:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000=20 size=3D2>LOL!  I bet Ralph's never been so well trashed in his whole=20 life.

- Pam
No, ex-Mrs.-Ralph did a pretty good job.
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1106092106-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 18:49:25 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: an urgent MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106092165" -------------------------------1106092165 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/18/2005 2:36:40 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: So, this is the trashed Ralph? Seemed like the barber cut it a little short. Ralph -------------------------------1106092165 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/18/2005 2:36:40 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>So, this=20 is the trashed Ralph?
Seemed like the barber cut it a little short.
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1106092165-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 18:50:49 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Embossed & Its an AOL problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106092249" -------------------------------1106092249 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/18/2005 2:39:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Isn't that being a little rough on Ralph? Not at all. I'm used to it. Bought my own vaseline and everything. A 55 gallon drum full. Ralph -------------------------------1106092249 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/18/2005 2:39:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>Isn't=20 that being a little rough on Ralph?
Not at all.  I'm used to it.  Bought my own vaseline and=20 everything.  A 55 gallon drum full.
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1106092249-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 18:52:29 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: an urgent MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106092349" -------------------------------1106092349 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/18/2005 2:48:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Yes. It would be odd indeed if the only way I could respond to Ralph was by trashing him first. Its not like I object to trashing Ralph, but it brings to mind Oscar, and Ralph is no Oscar. -jc If I want this sort of aggravation, I'll call ex-Mrs.-Ralph. On second thought, I'd rather get it from you guys. And guyettes. Ralph -------------------------------1106092349 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/18/2005 2:48:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000=20 size=3D2>Yes.  It would be odd indeed if the only way I could respond= to=20 Ralph
was by trashing him first.  Its not like I object to trashin= g=20 Ralph,
but it brings to mind Oscar, and Ralph is no=20 Oscar.

-jc

If I want this sort of aggravation, I'll call ex-Mrs.-Ralph.
 
On second thought, I'd rather get it from you guys.  And=20 guyettes.
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1106092349-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 18:54:30 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Embossed & Its a Ralph problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106092470" -------------------------------1106092470 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/18/2005 4:15:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: VI- President, Ralphophiles of America So where are your dues? It's getting cold out by the mailbox. Or should I be watching for a flying Christmas tree? Ralph -------------------------------1106092470 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/18/2005 4:15:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>
VI- President, Ralphophiles of America
So where are your dues?  It's getting cold out by the mailbox.&nbs= p;=20 Or should I be watching for a flying Christmas tree?

Ralph
-------------------------------1106092470-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 18:55:02 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: an urgent MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106092502" -------------------------------1106092502 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/18/2005 4:24:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: "Ralphophiles of America" Wait by the mailbox, your application will arrive soon. Ahhh...two minds without a single thought. Ralph -------------------------------1106092502 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/18/2005 4:24:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000=20 size=3D2>"Ralphophiles of America"  Wait by the mailbox, your applica= tion=20 will arrive
soon.
Ahhh...two minds without a single thought.
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1106092502-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 18:56:24 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Embossed & Its a Ralph problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106092584" -------------------------------1106092584 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/18/2005 6:37:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Who is this Ralph? If you want to know, you'll need a map. And a drawing. Ralph -------------------------------1106092584 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/18/2005 6:37:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>Who is=20 this Ralph?
If you want to know, you'll need a map.  And a drawing.
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1106092584-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 11:34:53 -0800 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Cuyler Page <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Heritage Interpretation Services Subject: Re: music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0050_01C4FD51.BA8D0980" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01C4FD51.BA8D0980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was sad to see the passing of "Big Al's Get 'N' Go" in MacLean, NY. = I liked the name and their gas prices were good (I'm sure the people the = trailer park across the street appreciated the convenience mart too). I'm a Get 'N' Go kinda guy... Then you would have loved the sign in Ellis Hollow near Ithaca saying = "Martha's Curb Service". cp in bc ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01C4FD51.BA8D0980 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I=20 was sad to see the passing of "Big Al's Get 'N' Go" in MacLean, NY. I = liked=20 the name and their gas prices were good (I'm sure the people the = trailer park=20 across the street appreciated the convenience mart = too).
 
I'm=20 a Get 'N' Go kinda = guy...
Then you would have loved the sign in = Ellis Hollow=20 near Ithaca saying "Martha's Curb Service".
 
cp in bc
------=_NextPart_000_0050_01C4FD51.BA8D0980-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 17:33:23 -0800 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Cuyler Page <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Heritage Interpretation Services Subject: Re: Names of Place MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > They were the fault of the language barrier, for > the natives who were questioned about the names of their towns and > rivers and mountains simply didn't know what was going on. Same story out here in BC, but with people instead of places. Lots of Indians today have last names (family names) of Joe or Charlie (Anita Joe, Clarence Joe, Angus Charlie, Elisabeth Charlie) because the original census takers in the 1870's could not get the natives to understand the concept of first and last names. The bureaucrats just put their own names in the spot on the form for last name, just to get the job done and get back to "civilization". Of course the folks I work with here today have a 10,000 year history of family relationships and some will easily recite 10 generations of ancestors, and with their innate forbearance and sense of humour, they simply continue to have two names they use for themselves, their "real" name and their white man's name. Of course this is not the same as when some pioneer bureaucrats put other things in other places and thereby gave some native people the opportunity to have the familiar European family names they use today, thereby continuing to honour their true grandfathers. cp in bc -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 17:41:53 -0800 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Cuyler Page <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Heritage Interpretation Services Subject: Re: Embossed & Its an AOL problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit jc, Sound like time to defrag. cp > I hit reply, and nothing happens. The next time I start the mail > program, or reboot the computer, I a blank email addressed to Ralph > that never was completed or sent. > > Now a new development. In order to get my facts straight to write the > above, I went into the mail trash, opened an email from Ralph, hit > reply, typed some nonesense and sent it. No problem. It seems that I > need to trash Ralph if I want to reply to him. Interesting. > > -jc -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:39:55 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Embossed & Its an AOL problem In-Reply-To: <005401c4fdce$9b2ca0a0$a62266cf@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Defrag has become sort of obsolete on the Mac. Left behind in OS9, I suppose. There are some new routines with "permissions" and optomizing, which are thought to be helpful, and DiskWarrior seems to find minor problems and repair them, but none of this seems to help with replying to Ralph. And I'm reasonably sure I don't need to do that sort of thing just now, because I spent so much time tracking down another problem last week. One that went away once I unplugged my dsl modem and replugged it....or would have gone away at that point if I hadn't gotten heavy handed and decided to reset the bugger, and then had to set the whole damn thing up again. But, that's what winter is for, isn't it? -jc On Jan 18, 2005, at 7:41 PM, Cuyler Page wrote: > jc, > Sound like time to defrag. > cp > >> I hit reply, and nothing happens. The next time I start the mail >> program, or reboot the computer, I a blank email addressed to Ralph >> that never was completed or sent. >> >> Now a new development. In order to get my facts straight to write the >> above, I went into the mail trash, opened an email from Ralph, hit >> reply, typed some nonesense and sent it. No problem. It seems that I >> need to trash Ralph if I want to reply to him. Interesting. >> >> -jc > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 21:49:02 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Embossed & Its a Ralph problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106102942" -------------------------------1106102942 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/18/2005 6:54:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Or should I be watching for a flying Christmas tree? Make that a flying pig... -------------------------------1106102942 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/18/2005 6:54:46 PM Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>Or=20 should I be watching for a flying Christmas tree?
Make that a flying pig...
-------------------------------1106102942-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:53:11 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: music in life In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey! I went to aWhataburger in El Paso! It sort of reminded me of Wetsons from my youth, (when I thought a Big W was a balanced meal, 'cause it had all the food groups....sort of.) Although it was a stretch for my Spanish, and the place looked like hell, they were shoveling out the burgers and the burgers were GOOOOD! I haven't had a chance to go out for lunch alone in El Paso since, and the folks I hang out think I'm joking when I suggest it...and then appauled when they realize I'm not joking. - jc On Jan 18, 2005, at 5:35 PM, Gabriel Orgrease wrote: > [log in to unmask] wrote: > >> In a message dated 1/18/2005 9:54:54 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, >> [log in to unmask] writes: >> >> They are all over the place down here, town of any size gets a >> Dairy Queen, then either a Sonic or Whataburger (Texas >> institution). >> >> They had Whataburger in Arizona in my yout', but not in California. >> Wonder whether they worked their way west or east. >> >> Ralph > > Whatawaytogo? > Who needs a map? > > ][< > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 23:56:24 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Embossed & Its a Ralph problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106110584" -------------------------------1106110584 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/18/2005 9:49:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Or should I be watching for a flying Christmas tree? Make that a flying pig... Christmas is over? Ralph -------------------------------1106110584 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/18/2005 9:49:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>
Or=20 should I be watching for a flying Christmas tree?
Make that a flying pig...
Christmas is over?
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1106110584-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 22:44:52 -0800 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Names of Place In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" And I thought Bullamanka=Far out, as in "Far out, man, far out!!" Ruth At 2:43 PM -0500 1/18/05, Gabriel Orgrease wrote: >John Callan wrote: > >> Did you imagine this back in '95? > >jc, > >I'm not sure what I imagiend in '95, but I certainly did imagine >something different than '94. >Bullamanka = that place over that away but we are not sure. > >][< -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Dummerston, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 07:56:43 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: an urgent MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002A_01C4FDFC.6A85B530" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C4FDFC.6A85B530 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 18:52 Subject: Re: [BP] an urgent In a message dated 1/18/2005 2:48:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: Yes. It would be odd indeed if the only way I could respond to = Ralph was by trashing him first. Its not like I object to trashing Ralph, but it brings to mind Oscar, and Ralph is no Oscar. -jc If I want this sort of aggravation, I'll call ex-Mrs.-Ralph. On second thought, I'd rather get it from you guys. And guyettes. = Thanks for recognizing we can dish it out with the best of them. Ralph Pam ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C4FDFC.6A85B530 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]=20
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 = 18:52
Subject: Re: [BP] an = urgent

In a message dated 1/18/2005 2:48:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] = writes:
Yes.  It would be odd indeed if the only way I could = respond to=20 Ralph
was by trashing him first.  Its not like I object to = trashing=20 Ralph,
but it brings to mind Oscar, and Ralph is no=20 Oscar.

-jc

If I want this sort of aggravation, I'll call = ex-Mrs.-Ralph.
 
On second thought, I'd rather get it from you guys.  And = guyettes.=20 Thanks for recognizing we can dish it out with the best of=20 them.
 
Ralph = Pam
------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C4FDFC.6A85B530-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 07:58:04 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003A_01C4FDFC.9AA1FDF0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C4FDFC.9AA1FDF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Must say, I don't recall any sort of sign like that in Ellis Hollow - = unless Martha was working out of her house. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Cuyler Page=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 14:34 Subject: Re: [BP] music in life I was sad to see the passing of "Big Al's Get 'N' Go" in MacLean, = NY. I liked the name and their gas prices were good (I'm sure the people = the trailer park across the street appreciated the convenience mart = too). I'm a Get 'N' Go kinda guy... Then you would have loved the sign in Ellis Hollow near Ithaca saying = "Martha's Curb Service". cp in bc ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C4FDFC.9AA1FDF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Must say, I don't recall any sort of = sign like that=20 in Ellis Hollow - unless Martha was working out of her = house.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 [log in to unmask] href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Cuyler = Page=20
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 = 14:34
Subject: Re: [BP] music in = life

I=20 was sad to see the passing of "Big Al's Get 'N' Go" in MacLean, NY. = I liked=20 the name and their gas prices were good (I'm sure the people the = trailer=20 park across the street appreciated the convenience mart=20 too).
 
I'm a Get 'N' Go kinda=20 guy...
Then you would have loved the sign in = Ellis=20 Hollow near Ithaca saying "Martha's Curb Service".
 
cp in = bc
------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C4FDFC.9AA1FDF0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 07:45:19 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: an urgent MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106138719" -------------------------------1106138719 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/19/2005 7:43:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: On second thought, I'd rather get it from you guys. And guyettes. Thanks for recognizing we can dish it out with the best of them. Ralph Pam You are indeed in rarified company. But I'm not giving you $350,000. Ralph -------------------------------1106138719 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/19/2005 7:43:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>
On second thought, I'd rather get it from you guys.  And guyette= s.=20 Thanks for recognizing we can dish it out with the best of=20 them.
 
Ralph Pam
You are indeed in rarified company.  But I'm not giving yo= u=20 $350,000.
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1106138719-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 07:59:55 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Embossed & Its an AOL problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Besides, defragging Ralph might be painful. - Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Callan" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 21:39 Subject: Re: [BP] Embossed & Its an AOL problem > Defrag has become sort of obsolete on the Mac. Left behind in OS9, I > suppose. There are some new routines with "permissions" and > optomizing, which are thought to be helpful, and DiskWarrior seems to > find minor problems and repair them, but none of this seems to help > with replying to Ralph. And I'm reasonably sure I don't need to do > that sort of thing just now, because I spent so much time tracking down > another problem last week. One that went away once I unplugged my dsl > modem and replugged it....or would have gone away at that point if I > hadn't gotten heavy handed and decided to reset the bugger, and then > had to set the whole damn thing up again. > > But, that's what winter is for, isn't it? > > -jc > > On Jan 18, 2005, at 7:41 PM, Cuyler Page wrote: > > > jc, > > Sound like time to defrag. > > cp > > > >> I hit reply, and nothing happens. The next time I start the mail > >> program, or reboot the computer, I a blank email addressed to Ralph > >> that never was completed or sent. > >> > >> Now a new development. In order to get my facts straight to write the > >> above, I went into the mail trash, opened an email from Ralph, hit > >> reply, typed some nonesense and sent it. No problem. It seems that I > >> need to trash Ralph if I want to reply to him. Interesting. > >> > >> -jc > > > > -- > > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > > > > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 08:00:56 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sort of like people who claim to love White Castle. Something about steaming hamburger that doesn't sit right in the belly. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Callan" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 21:53 Subject: Re: [BP] music in life > Hey! I went to aWhataburger in El Paso! It sort of reminded me of > Wetsons from my youth, (when I thought a Big W was a balanced meal, > 'cause it had all the food groups....sort of.) Although it was a > stretch for my Spanish, and the place looked like hell, they were > shoveling out the burgers and the burgers were GOOOOD! I haven't had a > chance to go out for lunch alone in El Paso since, and the folks I hang > out think I'm joking when I suggest it...and then appauled when they > realize I'm not joking. > > - jc > > > On Jan 18, 2005, at 5:35 PM, Gabriel Orgrease wrote: > > > [log in to unmask] wrote: > > > >> In a message dated 1/18/2005 9:54:54 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > >> [log in to unmask] writes: > >> > >> They are all over the place down here, town of any size gets a > >> Dairy Queen, then either a Sonic or Whataburger (Texas > >> institution). > >> > >> They had Whataburger in Arizona in my yout', but not in California. > >> Wonder whether they worked their way west or east. > >> > >> Ralph > > > > Whatawaytogo? > > Who needs a map? > > > > ][< > > > > -- > > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > > > > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 08:01:25 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Embossed & Its a Ralph problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0056_01C4FDFD.126B6D80" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0056_01C4FDFD.126B6D80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Maybe not for you Ralph - I imagine Christmas cards are still showing up = in your mailbox. - Pam ----- Original Message -----=20 From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 23:56 Subject: Re: [BP] Embossed & Its a Ralph problem In a message dated 1/18/2005 9:49:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: Or should I be watching for a flying Christmas tree? Make that a flying pig... Christmas is over? Ralph ------=_NextPart_000_0056_01C4FDFD.126B6D80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Maybe not for you Ralph - I imagine Christmas cards are still = showing up in=20 your mailbox.
 
- Pam
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]=20
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 = 23:56
Subject: Re: [BP] Embossed = & Its a=20 Ralph problem

In a message dated 1/18/2005 9:49:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes:
Or=20 should I be watching for a flying Christmas = tree?
Make that a flying pig...
Christmas is over?
 
Ralph
------=_NextPart_000_0056_01C4FDFD.126B6D80-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 08:01:58 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Names of Place MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Far out in the twinkle of a leaftime, Ruth. - Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth Barton" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 01:44 Subject: Re: [BP] Names of Place > And I thought Bullamanka=Far out, as in "Far out, man, far out!!" Ruth > > > > > At 2:43 PM -0500 1/18/05, Gabriel Orgrease wrote: > >John Callan wrote: > > > >> Did you imagine this back in '95? > > > >jc, > > > >I'm not sure what I imagiend in '95, but I certainly did imagine > >something different than '94. > >Bullamanka = that place over that away but we are not sure. > > > >][< > -- > Ruth Barton > [log in to unmask] > Dummerston, VT > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 08:20:07 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: an urgent MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0077_01C4FDFF.AF778530" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0077_01C4FDFF.AF778530 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 07:45 Subject: Re: [BP] an urgent In a message dated 1/19/2005 7:43:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: On second thought, I'd rather get it from you guys. And guyettes. = Thanks for recognizing we can dish it out with the best of them. Ralph Pam You are indeed in rarified company. But I'm not giving you $350,000. = I won't feel bad about it if you tell me you're not giving ANYONE $350K. Ralph Pam ------=_NextPart_000_0077_01C4FDFF.AF778530 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]=20
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, = 2005=20 07:45
Subject: Re: [BP] an = urgent

In a message dated 1/19/2005 7:43:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask]=20 writes:
On second thought, I'd rather get it from you guys.  And = guyettes.=20 Thanks for recognizing we can dish it out with the best of=20 them.
 
Ralph Pam
You are indeed in rarified company.  But I'm not = giving you=20 $350,000.  I won't feel bad about it if you tell me = you're=20 not giving ANYONE $350K.
 
Ralph = Pam
------=_NextPart_000_0077_01C4FDFF.AF778530-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 07:16:55 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: an urgent In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--1015603165 --Apple-Mail-1--1015603165 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Thanks for the $350K Ralph. I'd like some more please. Since you=20 aren't giving any to Pam, could I have her share? -jc On Jan 19, 2005, at 7:20 AM, Pamela S. Follett wrote: > =A0 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: [log in to unmask] > To: [log in to unmask] > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 07:45 > Subject: Re: [BP] an urgent > > > In a message dated 1/19/2005 7:43:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 > [log in to unmask] writes: > > On second thought, I'd rather get it from you guys.=A0 And guyettes.=20= > Thanks for recognizing we can dish it out with the best of them. > =A0 > Ralph Pam > You are indeed in rarified company.=A0 But I'm not giving you = $350,000.=A0=20 > I won't feel bad about it if you tell me you're not giving ANYONE=20 > $350K. > =A0 > Ralph Pam --Apple-Mail-1--1015603165 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks for the $350K Ralph. I'd like some more please. Since you aren't giving any to Pam, could I have her share? -jc On Jan 19, 2005, at 7:20 AM, Pamela S. Follett wrote: = Arial=A0 Arial----- Original Message ----- Arial = From: = 0000,0000,EEEERLWALTR= @AOL.COM = = ArialTo:Arial = 0000,0000,EEEEBULLAMA= [log in to unmask] = = ArialSent:= Arial Wednesday, January 19, 2005 07:45 = ArialSubject:Arial Re: [BP] an urgent ArialIn a message dated 1/19/2005 7:43:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, = 0000,0000,EEEEpfollet= [log in to unmask] writes: ArialOn second thought, I'd rather get it from you guys.=A0 And guyettes. Thanks for recognizing we can dish it out with the best of = them. = Arial=A0 = ArialRalph Pam ArialYou are indeed in rarified company.=A0 But I'm not giving you $350,000.=A0 = A= rialI won't feel bad about it if you tell me you're not giving ANYONE = $350K. = Arial=A0 ArialRalph = A= rialPam = --Apple-Mail-1--1015603165-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 08:59:32 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Embossed & Its a Ralph problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106143171" -------------------------------1106143171 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/18/2005 11:56:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Christmas is over? Oui...I mean oink! -------------------------------1106143171 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/18/2005 11:56:48 PM Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>
Christmas is over?
Oui...I mean oink!
-------------------------------1106143171-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:59:10 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: an urgent MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0098_01C4FE15.E73D9E80" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0098_01C4FE15.E73D9E80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable no ----- Original Message -----=20 From: John Callan=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 08:16 Subject: Re: [BP] an urgent Thanks for the $350K Ralph. I'd like some more please. Since you = aren't giving any to Pam, could I have her share? -jc On Jan 19, 2005, at 7:20 AM, Pamela S. Follett wrote: =20 ----- Original Message ----- From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 07:45 Subject: Re: [BP] an urgent In a message dated 1/19/2005 7:43:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: On second thought, I'd rather get it from you guys. And guyettes. = Thanks for recognizing we can dish it out with the best of them. =20 Ralph Pam You are indeed in rarified company. But I'm not giving you = $350,000. I won't feel bad about it if you tell me you're not giving = ANYONE $350K. =20 Ralph Pam ------=_NextPart_000_0098_01C4FE15.E73D9E80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
no
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">John Callan=20
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, = 2005=20 08:16
Subject: Re: [BP] an = urgent

Thanks for the $350K Ralph. I'd like some more please. = Since=20 you aren't giving any to Pam, could I have her = share?

-jc

On Jan=20 19, 2005, at 7:20 AM, Pamela S. Follett wrote:

 
-----=20 Original Message = -----
From:=20 [log in to unmask]=20
To:= =20 BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask] =
Sent:=20 Wednesday, January 19, 2005 = 07:45
Subject:=20 Re: [BP] an = urgent


In=20 a message dated 1/19/2005 7:43:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask]=20 writes:


On=20 second thought, I'd rather get it from you guys.  And guyettes. = Thanks for recognizing we can dish = it=20 out with the best of=20 them.

 

Ralph= =20 Pam

You=20 are indeed in rarified company.  But I'm not giving you = $350,000. =20 I=20 won't feel bad about it if you tell me you're not giving ANYONE = $350K.

 

Ralph=20 Pam

------=_NextPart_000_0098_01C4FE15.E73D9E80-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:53:33 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: an urgent In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--1006205088 --Apple-Mail-2--1006205088 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed grouch. On Jan 19, 2005, at 9:59 AM, Pamela S. Follett wrote: > no > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John Callan > To: [log in to unmask] > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 08:16 > Subject: Re: [BP] an urgent > > Thanks for the $350K Ralph. I'd like some more please. Since you=20 > aren't giving any to Pam, could I have her share? > > -jc > > On Jan 19, 2005, at 7:20 AM, Pamela S. Follett wrote: > > > =A0 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: [log in to unmask] > To: [log in to unmask] > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 07:45 > Subject: Re: [BP] an urgent > > > In a message dated 1/19/2005 7:43:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 > [log in to unmask] writes: > > > On second thought, I'd rather get it from you guys.=A0 And guyettes.=20= > Thanks for recognizing we can dish it out with the best of them. > > =A0 > > Ralph Pam > > You are indeed in rarified company.=A0 But I'm not giving you = $350,000.=A0=20 > I won't feel bad about it if you tell me you're not giving ANYONE=20 > $350K. > > =A0 > > Ralph Pam > --Apple-Mail-2--1006205088 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 grouch. On Jan 19, 2005, at 9:59 AM, Pamela S. Follett wrote: = Arialno Arial----- Original Message ----- Arial = From: 0000,0000,EEEEJohn Callan = = ArialTo:Arial = 0000,0000,EEEEBULLAMA= [log in to unmask] = = ArialSent:= Arial Wednesday, January 19, 2005 08:16 = ArialSubject:Arial Re: [BP] an urgent Thanks for the $350K Ralph. I'd like some more please. Since you aren't giving any to Pam, could I have her share? -jc On Jan 19, 2005, at 7:20 AM, Pamela S. Follett wrote: =A0 ----- Original Message ----- From: 0000,0000,EEEE[log in to unmask]=20 To: = 0000,0000,EEEE[log in to unmask] EDU=20 Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 07:45 Subject: Re: [BP] an urgent In a message dated 1/19/2005 7:43:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: On second thought, I'd rather get it from you guys.=A0 And guyettes. Thanks for recognizing we can dish it out with the best of = them. =A0 Ralph Pam You are indeed in rarified company.=A0 But I'm not giving you $350,000.=A0 I won't feel bad about it if you tell me you're not giving ANYONE $350K. =A0 Ralph Pam = --Apple-Mail-2--1006205088-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:55:54 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: music in life In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0053_01C4FE0D.10C125A0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0053_01C4FE0D.10C125A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It had to be well past ' 78, cause I don't remember one either. -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Pamela S. Follett Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 6:58 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BP] music in life Must say, I don't recall any sort of sign like that in Ellis Hollow - unless Martha was working out of her house. ----- Original Message ----- From: Cuyler Page To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 14:34 Subject: Re: [BP] music in life I was sad to see the passing of "Big Al's Get 'N' Go" in MacLean, NY. I liked the name and their gas prices were good (I'm sure the people the trailer park across the street appreciated the convenience mart too). I'm a Get 'N' Go kinda guy... Then you would have loved the sign in Ellis Hollow near Ithaca saying "Martha's Curb Service". cp in bc ------=_NextPart_000_0053_01C4FE0D.10C125A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
It had=20 to be well past ' 78, cause I don't remember one = either.
-----Original Message-----
From: Pre-patinated = plastic gumby=20 block w/ coin slot = [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On=20 Behalf Of Pamela S. Follett
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, = 2005=20 6:58 AM
To:=20 [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [BP] = music in=20 life

Must say, I don't recall any sort of = sign like=20 that in Ellis Hollow - unless Martha was working out of her=20 house.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 [log in to unmask] href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Cuyler = Page=20
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, = 2005=20 14:34
Subject: Re: [BP] music in = life

I was sad to see the passing of "Big Al's Get 'N' Go" in = MacLean,=20 NY. I liked the name and their gas prices were good (I'm sure the = people=20 the trailer park across the street appreciated the convenience = mart=20 too).
 
I'm a Get 'N' Go kinda=20 guy...
Then you would have loved the sign = in Ellis=20 Hollow near Ithaca saying "Martha's Curb Service".
 
cp in=20 bc
------=_NextPart_000_0053_01C4FE0D.10C125A0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 12:14:34 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: an urgent MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00E3_01C4FE20.70161340" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00E3_01C4FE20.70161340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's me, cuz I'm cold (only not as cold as you, apparently - today'sd = forecast is 30 but a lot of wind). If Ralph's not gonna share with me, = then I say he can't share with anybody! He's just gonna take his money = and leave the sandbox! Besides, I thought you like his mother better = than him. :-O - Pam ----- Original Message -----=20 From: John Callan=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 10:53 Subject: Re: [BP] an urgent grouch. On Jan 19, 2005, at 9:59 AM, Pamela S. Follett wrote: no ----- Original Message ----- From: John Callan=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 08:16 Subject: Re: [BP] an urgent Thanks for the $350K Ralph. I'd like some more please. Since you = aren't giving any to Pam, could I have her share? -jc On Jan 19, 2005, at 7:20 AM, Pamela S. Follett wrote: =20 ----- Original Message ----- From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 07:45 Subject: Re: [BP] an urgent In a message dated 1/19/2005 7:43:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: On second thought, I'd rather get it from you guys. And guyettes. = Thanks for recognizing we can dish it out with the best of them. =20 Ralph Pam You are indeed in rarified company. But I'm not giving you = $350,000. I won't feel bad about it if you tell me you're not giving = ANYONE $350K. =20 Ralph Pam ------=_NextPart_000_00E3_01C4FE20.70161340 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That's me, cuz I'm cold (only not as = cold as you,=20 apparently - today'sd forecast is 30 but a lot of wind).  If = Ralph's not=20 gonna share with me, then I say he can't share with anybody!  He's = just=20 gonna take his money and leave the sandbox!  Besides, I thought you = like=20 his mother better than him. :-O
 
- Pam
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">John Callan=20
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, = 2005=20 10:53
Subject: Re: [BP] an = urgent

grouch.

On Jan 19, 2005, at 9:59 AM, Pamela S. = Follett=20 wrote:

no

----- = Original=20 Message -----
From:=20 John = Callan =
To:= =20 BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask] =
Sent:=20 Wednesday, January 19, 2005 = 08:16
Subject:=20 Re: [BP] an urgent

Thanks for = the=20 $350K Ralph. I'd like some more please. Since you aren't giving any = to Pam,=20 could I have her share?

-jc

On Jan 19, 2005, at 7:20 = AM,=20 Pamela S. Follett wrote:


 
----- Original Message = -----
From: [log in to unmask]
To: [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 = 07:45
Subject: Re:=20 [BP] an urgent


In a message dated 1/19/2005 7:43:37 A.M. = Eastern=20 Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:


On second = thought,=20 I'd rather get it from you guys.  And guyettes. Thanks for=20 recognizing we can dish it out with the best of=20 them.

 

Ralph Pam

You are = indeed in=20 rarified company.  But I'm not giving you $350,000.  = I=20 won't feel bad about it if you tell me you're not giving ANYONE=20 $350K.

 

Ralph=20 Pam

------=_NextPart_000_00E3_01C4FE20.70161340-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 12:39:49 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Bruce Marcham <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C4FE4D.DFD606F5" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4FE4D.DFD606F5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chris: =20 Was that a drive-up farm stand? (Did you attend Cornell?) =20 I'm guessing this predates Pam and Jim's knowledge of Ellis Hollow Road = (or at least the days when they would've been driving themselves = around).=20 =20 The only business I remember on Ellis Hollow Road was Mr. May's egg = farm. He was a family friend (having gone to Cornell with my mother's = parents in the mid to late '20's) and delivered eggs to our house for = many years. That recollection reminds me of the insulated metal box that = was on our front porch in the days when milk was delivered to the house = (probably up until the late 50's or early 60's). Maybe they still do = these things up in Ruth's neck of the woods... =20 Bruce -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot = [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Jim = Follett Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 10:56 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BP] music in life It had to be well past ' 78, cause I don't remember one either. -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot = [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Pamela S. = Follett Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 6:58 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BP] music in life Must say, I don't recall any sort of sign like that in Ellis Hollow - = unless Martha was working out of her house. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Cuyler Page =20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 14:34 Subject: Re: [BP] music in life I was sad to see the passing of "Big Al's Get 'N' Go" in MacLean, NY. I = liked the name and their gas prices were good (I'm sure the people the = trailer park across the street appreciated the convenience mart too). =20 I'm a Get 'N' Go kinda guy... Then you would have loved the sign in Ellis Hollow near Ithaca saying = "Martha's Curb Service". =20 cp in bc ------_=_NextPart_001_01C4FE4D.DFD606F5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Chris:
 
Was=20 that a drive-up farm stand? (Did you attend = Cornell?)
 
I'm=20 guessing this predates Pam and Jim's knowledge of Ellis Hollow Road (or = at least=20 the days when they would've been driving themselves around).=20
 
The only business I remember on Ellis = Hollow=20 Road was Mr. May's egg farm. He was a family friend (having gone=20 to Cornell with my mother's parents in the mid to late '20's) and = delivered=20 eggs to our house for many years. That recollection reminds me of=20 the insulated metal box that was on our front porch in the = days when=20 milk was delivered to the house (probably up until the late 50's or = early 60's).=20 Maybe they still do these things up in Ruth's neck of the=20 woods...
 
Bruce
-----Original Message-----
From: Pre-patinated = plastic gumby=20 block w/ coin slot = [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On=20 Behalf Of Jim Follett
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 = 10:56=20 AM
To: = [log in to unmask]
Subject:=20 Re: [BP] music in life

It=20 had to be well past ' 78, cause I don't remember one=20 either.
-----Original Message-----
From: Pre-patinated = plastic=20 gumby block w/ coin slot=20 [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of = Pamela=20 S. Follett
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 6:58 = AM
To:=20 [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: = [BP] music=20 in life

Must say, I don't recall any sort = of sign like=20 that in Ellis Hollow - unless Martha was working out of her=20 house.
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Cuyler Page=20
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, = 2005=20 14:34
Subject: Re: [BP] music in = life

I was sad to see the passing of "Big Al's Get 'N' Go" = in MacLean,=20 NY. I liked the name and their gas prices were good (I'm sure = the people=20 the trailer park across the street appreciated the convenience = mart=20 too).
 
I'm a Get 'N' Go kinda=20 guy...
Then you would have loved the = sign in Ellis=20 Hollow near Ithaca saying "Martha's Curb Service".
 
cp in=20 bc
------_=_NextPart_001_01C4FE4D.DFD606F5-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:43:41 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: an urgent In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3--999597542 --Apple-Mail-3--999597542 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I'm not cold. In fact, I'm kind of warm. In my continuing effort to=20 avoid the Nordic Trak I went out and shoveled the driveway, then the=20 walk, then the porch and finally the pond. At least when I'm done=20 there is more to look at than a temporary number of imaginary=20 kilometers. Ain't kilometers kind of imaginary anyway? Even the real=20= ones? (Notice how tactfully I avoided discussion of the significant females=20 in Ralph's life.) I was drawing my own house this morning. As the drawing near=20 completion, I came to the conclusion that I have made some odd errors,=20= but that it is also an odd house, designed by an odd person and=20 constructed by someone equally odd. No wonder it was love at first=20 site. Now I'm going to design some odd changes to it. Sort of clarify=20= the design vocabulary. -jc On Jan 19, 2005, at 11:14 AM, Pamela S. Follett wrote: > That's me, cuz I'm cold (only not as cold as you, apparently -=20 > today'sd forecast is 30 but a lot of wind).=A0 If Ralph's not gonna=20 > share with me, then I say he can't share with anybody!=A0 He's just=20 > gonna take his money and leave the sandbox!=A0 Besides, I thought you=20= > like his mother better than him. :-O > =A0 > - Pam > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John Callan > To: [log in to unmask] > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 10:53 > Subject: Re: [BP] an urgent > > grouch. > > On Jan 19, 2005, at 9:59 AM, Pamela S. Follett wrote: > > > no > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John Callan > To: [log in to unmask] > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 08:16 > Subject: Re: [BP] an urgent > > Thanks for the $350K Ralph. I'd like some more please. Since you=20 > aren't giving any to Pam, could I have her share? > > -jc > > On Jan 19, 2005, at 7:20 AM, Pamela S. Follett wrote: > > > =A0 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: [log in to unmask] > To: [log in to unmask] > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 07:45 > Subject: Re: [BP] an urgent > > > In a message dated 1/19/2005 7:43:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 > [log in to unmask] writes: > > > On second thought, I'd rather get it from you guys.=A0 And guyettes.=20= > Thanks for recognizing we can dish it out with the best of them. > > =A0 > > Ralph Pam > > You are indeed in rarified company.=A0 But I'm not giving you = $350,000.=A0=20 > I won't feel bad about it if you tell me you're not giving ANYONE=20 > $350K. > > =A0 > > Ralph Pam > --Apple-Mail-3--999597542 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm not cold. In fact, I'm kind of warm. In my continuing effort to avoid the Nordic Trak I went out and shoveled the driveway, then the walk, then the porch and finally the pond. At least when I'm done there is more to look at than a temporary number of imaginary kilometers. Ain't kilometers kind of imaginary anyway? Even the real ones? (Notice how tactfully I avoided discussion of the significant females in Ralph's life.) I was drawing my own house this morning. As the drawing near completion, I came to the conclusion that I have made some odd errors, but that it is also an odd house, designed by an odd person and constructed by someone equally odd. No wonder it was love at first site. Now I'm going to design some odd changes to it. Sort of clarify the design vocabulary. -jc On Jan 19, 2005, at 11:14 AM, Pamela S. Follett wrote: ArialThat's me, cuz I'm cold (only not as cold as you, apparently - today'sd forecast is 30 but a lot of wind).=A0 If Ralph's not gonna share with me, then I say he can't share with anybody!=A0 He's just gonna take his money and leave the sandbox!=A0 Besides, I thought you like his mother better than him. = :-O =A0 Arial- = Pam Arial----- Original Message ----- Arial = From: 0000,0000,EEEEJohn Callan = = ArialTo:Arial = 0000,0000,EEEEBULLAMA= [log in to unmask] = = ArialSent:= Arial Wednesday, January 19, 2005 10:53 = ArialSubject:Arial Re: [BP] an urgent grouch. On Jan 19, 2005, at 9:59 AM, Pamela S. Follett wrote: no ----- Original Message ----- From: John Callan To: = 0000,0000,EEEE[log in to unmask] EDU=20 Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 08:16 Subject: Re: [BP] an urgent Thanks for the $350K Ralph. I'd like some more please. Since you aren't giving any to Pam, could I have her share? -jc On Jan 19, 2005, at 7:20 AM, Pamela S. Follett wrote: =A0 ----- Original Message ----- From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 07:45 Subject: Re: [BP] an urgent In a message dated 1/19/2005 7:43:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: On second thought, I'd rather get it from you guys.=A0 And guyettes. Thanks for recognizing we can dish it out with the best of = them. =A0 Ralph Pam You are indeed in rarified company.=A0 But I'm not giving you $350,000.=A0 I won't feel bad about it if you tell me you're not giving ANYONE $350K. =A0 Ralph Pam = --Apple-Mail-3--999597542-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 12:51:21 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: the gilded rule MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106157081" -------------------------------1106157081 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message, [log in to unmask] writes: (Notice how tactfully I avoided discussion of the significant females in Ralph's insignificant life.) that kind of language is cruel. just what drives away subscribers to BP. yrs aspcR -------------------------------1106157081 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message, [log in to unmask] writes:
(Notice how tactfully I avoided discussion of=20= the significant females
in Ralph's insignificant life.)
that kind of language is cruel= .  just what drives away subscribers to BP.    yrs aspcR=
-------------------------------1106157081-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:59:35 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: the gilded rule In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4--998643145 --Apple-Mail-4--998643145 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed A thousand pardons. HEY! THAT's not what I wrote! Now That's=20 devious! One could cause a whole lot of trouble that way and never=20 take the heat for it! -jc On Jan 19, 2005, at 11:51 AM, Met History wrote: > In a message, [log in to unmask] writes: > (Notice how tactfully I avoided discussion of the significant females > in Ralph's insignificant=A0life.) > that kind of=A0language is=A0cruel.=A0 just what drives away = subscribers to=20 > BP.=A0=A0=A0 yrs aspcR --Apple-Mail-4--998643145 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 A thousand pardons. HEY! THAT's not what I wrote! Now That's devious! One could cause a whole lot of trouble that way and never take the heat for it! -jc On Jan 19, 2005, at 11:51 AM, Met History wrote: ArialIn a message, [log in to unmask] writes: Arial(Notice how tactfully I avoided discussion of the significant females Arial in Ralph's insignificant=A0life.) that kind of=A0language is=A0cruel.=A0 just what drives away subscribers to BP.=A0=A0=A0 yrs aspcR = --Apple-Mail-4--998643145-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 13:02:32 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: the gilded rule MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106157752" -------------------------------1106157752 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/19/2008 1:00:05 PM Mongolian Central Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Mary Krugman has caused a whole lot of trouble with her suave, sexy eyes, and she generates plenty of heat! -------------------------------1106157752 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/19/2008 1:00:05 PM Mongolian Central Time, jo= [log in to unmask] writes:
Mary Krugman has caused a whole lot of tr= ouble with her suave, sexy eyes, and she generates plenty of heat! 
-------------------------------1106157752-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 12:11:03 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: the gilded rule In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5--997954907 --Apple-Mail-5--997954907 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Just which part of this do you think I'd object to? On Jan 19, 2005, at 12:02 PM, Met History wrote: > In a message dated 1/19/2008 1:00:05 PM=A0Central Frozen Giblets Time,=20= > [log in to unmask] writes: > Mary Krugman=A0has caused a whole lot of trouble with her suave, sexy=20= > eyes, and she generates plenty of heat!=A0 --Apple-Mail-5--997954907 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Just which part of this do you think I'd object to? On Jan 19, 2005, at 12:02 PM, Met History wrote: ArialIn a message dated 1/19/2008 1:00:05 PM=A0Central Frozen Giblets Time, [log in to unmask] writes: ArialMary Krugman=A0has caused a whole lot of trouble with her suave, sexy eyes, and she generates plenty of heat!=A0 = --Apple-Mail-5--997954907-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:38:07 -0800 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Cuyler Page <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Heritage Interpretation Services Subject: Re: music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0016_01C4FE12.F6E6BE00" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C4FE12.F6E6BE00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Must say, I don't recall any sort of sign like that in Ellis Hollow - = unless Martha was working out of her house. It was put up at the driveway of a farm house at the foot of Ringwood = Road where a friend of mine had a minor mental war going on with the = farmer. The farmer's sweet (unsweetened) daughter was fooling around = with college boys much older than she, and the father took out his = vengeance on my high school chum who lived down in the Hollow, accusing = him public to anyone who would listen of terrible faults of character = and minor crimes. My buddy installed a big mattress and the sign = "Martha's Curb Service" at their mailbox one mid-night so the school bus = and all the Profs going to work the next morning could learn the truth. = Of course everyone knew everything anyway. The farmer was the only = one who cared, but the event brought it all out in the public open, and = the two parties were forced to call a truce to their public hostilities. = After all, Ellis Hollow is a "Nice" place to live. cp now far away in bc ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C4FE12.F6E6BE00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> Must say, I don't recall any sort = of sign like=20 that in Ellis Hollow - unless Martha was working out of her=20 house.
 
It was put up at the driveway of = a farm house=20 at the foot of Ringwood Road where a friend of mine had a minor = mental war=20 going on with the farmer.   The farmer's sweet (unsweetened) = daughter=20 was fooling around with college boys much older than she, and the father = took=20 out his vengeance on my high school chum who lived down in the Hollow, = accusing=20 him public to anyone who would listen of terrible faults of character = and minor=20 crimes.   My buddy installed a big mattress and the sign = "Martha's=20 Curb Service" at their mailbox one mid-night so the school bus and = all the=20 Profs going to work the next morning could learn the = truth.    Of=20 course everyone knew everything anyway.  The farmer was the only = one who=20 cared, but the event brought it all out in the public open, and the two = parties=20 were forced to call a truce to their public hostilities.   = After all,=20 Ellis Hollow is a "Nice" place to live.
 
cp now far away in = bc
------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C4FE12.F6E6BE00-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:56:12 -0800 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Cuyler Page <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Heritage Interpretation Services Subject: Re: music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0047_01C4FE15.7D8BD1A0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0047_01C4FE15.7D8BD1A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The only business I remember on Ellis Hollow Road was Mr. May's egg = farm. He was a family friend (having gone to Cornell with my mother's = parents in the mid to late '20's) and delivered eggs to our house for = many years. That recollection reminds me of the insulated metal box that = was on our front porch in the days when milk was delivered to the house = (probably up until the late 50's or early 60's). Maybe they still do = these things up in Ruth's neck of the woods... Bruce Hey, Bruce, sounds like you are talking about my house. We got our = eggs at Mr. May's place, 1/2 mile up the road, and one of my favourite = childhood memories is of playing in the front yard and hearing and then = seeing his antique Ford Model T putting up the road with feed sacks = slung over the fenders. He later got a 1930's Ford Woody Stationwagon = and continued to carry sacks on the fenders. Beautiful Ruth May was my = babysitter, and my first love. We used to look forward to the little cardboard caps on the milk bottles = put noisily by the Milk Man in the insulated box inside the back door. = I always puzzled that my parents carefully locked the front door when = going out, but left the back one open so the milkman could deliver. The Ellis Hollow mind- war and Martha's Sign was in 1959. Did you play in Llenroc Stone Quarry or ride your bike down Turkey Hill? This BP connection list continues to blow my mind. Cuyler Page (formerly known as JC, at 1222 Ellis Hollow Road when they finally = invented house numbers) ------=_NextPart_000_0047_01C4FE15.7D8BD1A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The=20 only business I remember on Ellis Hollow Road was Mr. May's egg = farm. He=20 was a family friend (having gone to Cornell with my mother's = parents in the=20 mid to late '20's) and delivered eggs to our house for many years. That=20 recollection reminds me of the insulated metal box that was on = our=20 front porch in the days when milk was delivered to the house = (probably up=20 until the late 50's or early 60's). Maybe they still do these things up = in=20 Ruth's neck of the woods...
 
Bruce
 
Hey, Bruce, sounds like you are talking = about my=20 house.   We got our eggs at Mr. May's place, 1/2 mile up the = road, and=20 one of my favourite childhood memories is of playing in the front yard = and=20 hearing and then seeing his antique Ford Model T putting up the = road with=20 feed sacks slung over the fenders.  He later got a 1930's Ford = Woody=20 Stationwagon and continued to carry sacks on the fenders. =20  Beautiful Ruth May was my babysitter, and my first = love.
 
We used to look forward to the little = cardboard=20 caps on the milk bottles put noisily by the Milk Man in the insulated = box inside=20 the back door.   I always puzzled that my parents carefully = locked the=20 front door when going out, but left the back one open so the milkman = could=20 deliver.
 
The Ellis Hollow mind- war = and Martha's=20 Sign was in 1959.
 
Did you play in Llenroc Stone Quarry or = ride your=20 bike down Turkey Hill?
 
This BP connection list continues to = blow my=20 mind.
 
Cuyler Page
(formerly known as JC, at 1222 Ellis = Hollow Road=20 when they finally invented = house numbers)
------=_NextPart_000_0047_01C4FE15.7D8BD1A0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 14:19:37 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0116_01C4FE31.E80DFD20" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0116_01C4FE31.E80DFD20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Milk delivery was at least until the late 60s at our house because I = remember it very well, when my rememberer first started working. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bruce Marcham=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 12:39 Subject: Re: [BP] music in life Chris: Was that a drive-up farm stand? (Did you attend Cornell?) I'm guessing this predates Pam and Jim's knowledge of Ellis Hollow = Road (or at least the days when they would've been driving themselves = around).=20 The only business I remember on Ellis Hollow Road was Mr. May's egg = farm. He was a family friend (having gone to Cornell with my mother's = parents in the mid to late '20's) and delivered eggs to our house for = many years. That recollection reminds me of the insulated metal box that = was on our front porch in the days when milk was delivered to the house = (probably up until the late 50's or early 60's). Maybe they still do = these things up in Ruth's neck of the woods... Bruce -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot = [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Jim = Follett Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 10:56 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BP] music in life It had to be well past ' 78, cause I don't remember one either. -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot = [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Pamela S. = Follett Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 6:58 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BP] music in life Must say, I don't recall any sort of sign like that in Ellis = Hollow - unless Martha was working out of her house. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Cuyler Page=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 14:34 Subject: Re: [BP] music in life I was sad to see the passing of "Big Al's Get 'N' Go" in = MacLean, NY. I liked the name and their gas prices were good (I'm sure = the people the trailer park across the street appreciated the = convenience mart too). I'm a Get 'N' Go kinda guy... Then you would have loved the sign in Ellis Hollow near Ithaca = saying "Martha's Curb Service". cp in bc ------=_NextPart_000_0116_01C4FE31.E80DFD20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Milk delivery was at least until the = late 60s at=20 our house because I remember it very well, when my rememberer first = started=20 working.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 [log in to unmask] href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Bruce = Marcham=20
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, = 2005=20 12:39
Subject: Re: [BP] music in = life

Chris:
 
Was=20 that a drive-up farm stand? (Did you attend = Cornell?)
 
I'm=20 guessing this predates Pam and Jim's knowledge of Ellis Hollow Road = (or at=20 least the days when they would've been driving themselves around).=20
 
The only business I remember on = Ellis Hollow=20 Road was Mr. May's egg farm. He was a family friend (having gone=20 to Cornell with my mother's parents in the mid to late '20's) and = delivered eggs to our house for many years. That = recollection reminds me=20 of the insulated metal box that was on our front porch in = the days=20 when milk was delivered to the house (probably up until the late 50's = or early=20 60's). Maybe they still do these things up in Ruth's neck of the=20 woods...
 
Bruce
-----Original Message-----
From: Pre-patinated = plastic=20 gumby block w/ coin slot=20 [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of = Jim=20 Follett
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 10:56 = AM
To:=20 [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: = [BP] music=20 in life

It=20 had to be well past ' 78, cause I don't remember one=20 either.
-----Original Message-----
From: Pre-patinated = plastic=20 gumby block w/ coin slot=20 [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of=20 Pamela S. Follett
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 = 6:58=20 AM
To:=20 [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: = [BP]=20 music in life

Must say, I don't recall any sort = of sign=20 like that in Ellis Hollow - unless Martha was working out of her=20 house.
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Cuyler Page=20
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Tuesday, January = 18, 2005=20 14:34
Subject: Re: [BP] music = in=20 life

I was sad to see the passing of "Big Al's Get 'N' Go" = in=20 MacLean, NY. I liked the name and their gas prices were good = (I'm sure=20 the people the trailer park across the street appreciated the=20 convenience mart too).
 
I'm a Get 'N' Go kinda=20 guy...
Then you would have loved the = sign in Ellis=20 Hollow near Ithaca saying "Martha's Curb Service".
 
cp in=20 = bc
------=_NextPart_000_0116_01C4FE31.E80DFD20-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 14:24:15 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: the gilded rule MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_013E_01C4FE32.8E13F8F0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_013E_01C4FE32.8E13F8F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think y'all should keep Mary's giblets out of the public conversation. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: John Callan=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 13:11 Subject: Re: [BP] the gilded rule Just which part of this do you think I'd object to? On Jan 19, 2005, at 12:02 PM, Met History wrote: In a message dated 1/19/2008 1:00:05 PM Chicken Salad Toss, = [log in to unmask] writes: Mary Krugman has caused a whole lot of trouble with her suave, sexy = eyes, and she generates plenty of heat!=20 ------=_NextPart_000_013E_01C4FE32.8E13F8F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I think y'all should keep Mary's = giblets out of the=20 public conversation.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">John Callan=20
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, = 2005=20 13:11
Subject: Re: [BP] the gilded = rule

Just which part of this do you think I'd object = to?

On=20 Jan 19, 2005, at 12:02 PM, Met History wrote:

In a message dated = 1/19/2008=20 1:00:05 PM Chicken Salad Toss, [log in to unmask] = writes:
Mary=20 Krugman has caused a whole lot of trouble with her suave, sexy = eyes,=20 and she generates plenty of=20 = heat! 
<= /HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_013E_01C4FE32.8E13F8F0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 15:33:29 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0150_01C4FE3C.39C39B70" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0150_01C4FE3C.39C39B70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You know, my brain even went in this direction, and I decided initally = to "curb" my thoughts because I figured my mind was just in the gutter. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Cuyler Page=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 13:38 Subject: Re: [BP] music in life > Must say, I don't recall any sort of sign like that in Ellis Hollow = - unless Martha was working out of her house. It was put up at the driveway of a farm house at the foot of Ringwood = Road where a friend of mine had a minor mental war going on with the = farmer. The farmer's sweet (unsweetened) daughter was fooling around = with college boys much older than she, and the father took out his = vengeance on my high school chum who lived down in the Hollow, accusing = him public to anyone who would listen of terrible faults of character = and minor crimes. My buddy installed a big mattress and the sign = "Martha's Curb Service" at their mailbox one mid-night so the school bus = and all the Profs going to work the next morning could learn the truth. = Of course everyone knew everything anyway. The farmer was the only = one who cared, but the event brought it all out in the public open, and = the two parties were forced to call a truce to their public hostilities. = After all, Ellis Hollow is a "Nice" place to live. cp now far away in bc ------=_NextPart_000_0150_01C4FE3C.39C39B70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
You know, my brain even went in this = direction, and=20 I decided initally to "curb" my thoughts because I figured my mind was = just in=20 the gutter.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 [log in to unmask] href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Cuyler = Page=20
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, = 2005=20 13:38
Subject: Re: [BP] music in = life


> Must say, I don't recall any = sort of sign=20 like that in Ellis Hollow - unless Martha was working out of her=20 house.
 
It was put up at the driveway of = a farm=20 house at the foot of Ringwood Road where a friend of mine had a = minor=20 mental war going on with the farmer.   The farmer's sweet=20 (unsweetened) daughter was fooling around with college boys much older = than=20 she, and the father took out his vengeance on my high school chum who = lived=20 down in the Hollow, accusing him public to anyone who would listen of = terrible=20 faults of character and minor crimes.   My buddy installed a = big=20 mattress and the sign "Martha's Curb Service" at their mailbox = one=20 mid-night so the school bus and all the Profs going to work the next = morning=20 could learn the truth.    Of course everyone knew = everything=20 anyway.  The farmer was the only one who cared, but the event = brought it=20 all out in the public open, and the two parties were forced to call a = truce to=20 their public hostilities.   After all, Ellis Hollow is a = "Nice"=20 place to live.
 
cp now far away in=20 bc
------=_NextPart_000_0150_01C4FE3C.39C39B70-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:09:50 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_015A_01C4FE41.4DD2B380" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_015A_01C4FE41.4DD2B380 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've begun to see this new thing with house number around here, with a = couple houses displaying their number using led lights over the garage. = My guess is one of the following: 1. The lights are the newest thing at Home Depot, Chase Pitkin (a local = chain), Lowe's so they are a must have 2. They're part of an alarm system - perhaps for people with medical = emergencies 3. They're markers for alien abductees Either way, I figure in 10 years, every house will have them littering = the landscape. - Pam ----- Original Message -----=20 Cuyler Page (formerly known as JC, at 1222 Ellis Hollow Road when they finally = invented house numbers) ------=_NextPart_000_015A_01C4FE41.4DD2B380 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I've begun to see this new thing with = house number=20 around here, with a couple houses displaying their number using led = lights over=20 the garage.  My guess is one of the following:
 
1. The lights are the newest thing at = Home Depot,=20 Chase Pitkin (a local chain), Lowe's so they are a must = have
2. They're part of an alarm system - = perhaps for=20 people with medical emergencies
3. They're markers for alien = abductees
 
Either way, I figure in 10 years, every = house will=20 have them littering the landscape.
 
- Pam
----- Original Message -----

Cuyler Page
(formerly known as JC, at 1222 Ellis = Hollow Road=20 when they finally invented=20 house numbers)
------=_NextPart_000_015A_01C4FE41.4DD2B380-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:47:30 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: the gilded rule In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT John Callan wrote: > Just which part of this do you think I'd object to? > > On Jan 19, 2005, at 12:02 PM, Met History wrote: > > In a message dated 1/19/2008 1:00:05 PM Central Frozen Giblets > Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Mary Krugman has caused a whole lot of trouble with her suave, > sexy eyes, and she generates plenty of heat! > Possibly the fact that she is no longer on BP? -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:46:57 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: music in life In-Reply-To: <007301c4fe59$191d1fa0$1f2134d1@default> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Cuyler Page wrote: > Did you play in Llenroc Stone Quarry or ride your bike down Turkey Hill? > > This BP connection list continues to blow my mind. > > Cuyler Page > (formerly known as JC, at 1222 Ellis Hollow Road when they > finally invented house numbers) cp, We lived in Besemer in the valley on the other side of the hill south of Ellis Hollow. Many times I would walk up Besemer Hill Rd. (dirt), west along Snyder Hill Road (roughly paved) and then down Genung Rd. (dirt) on the opposite of the long hill to Turkey Hill Rd. The dirt roads were fairly steep, Besemer Hill went pretty much straight up, making driving down a bit rough, and hiking up a breath taker. Certainly did bike a few times down Turkey Hill. Never played at Llenroc, but went there often enough in young-adult mode to purchase stone. Bill Koski worked there for many years. ][< -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:49:09 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: music in life In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Pamela S. Follett wrote: > I've begun to see this new thing with house number around here, with a > couple houses displaying their number using led lights over the > garage. My guess is one of the following: > > 1. The lights are the newest thing at Home Depot, Chase Pitkin (a > local chain), Lowe's so they are a must have > 2. They're part of an alarm system - perhaps for people with medical > emergencies > 3. They're markers for alien abductees > > Either way, I figure in 10 years, every house will have them littering > the landscape. > > - Pam > > ----- Original Message ----- > > Cuyler Page > (formerly known as JC, at 1222 Ellis Hollow Road when they > finally invented house numbers) > I read red lights not led lights and wondered what was so remarkable in that. We use a green light at our house. ][< -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:58:08 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Becker, Dan" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > -----Original Message----- > From: Gabriel Orgrease [mailto:[log in to unmask]]=20 > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 4:49 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [BP] music in life >=20 >=20 > Pamela S. Follett wrote: >=20 > > I've begun to see this new thing with house number around=20 > here, with a=20 > > couple houses displaying their number using led lights over the=20 > > garage. =20 > I read red lights not led lights and wondered what was so=20 > remarkable in that. We use a green light at our house. That's funny, I read red lights too. And my craftsman porch lights are green art glass as well! (Changed from yellow plastic bug light lenses when we rehabbed the house.) And I have green RLM fixtures on the garage, but the light they cast is regular incandescent. Dan -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:07:08 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Rudy Christian <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: music in life In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >That's funny, I read red lights too. And my craftsman porch lights are green art glass as well! (Changed from yellow plastic bug light lenses when we rehabbed the house.)<=20 Dan, You got a real problem with yellow plastic bugs down there? Up here we see 'em mostly in trailer parks... along with the strings of jalape=F1o peppers. Rudy -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:18:02 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_017A_01C4FE4A.D49D4C50" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_017A_01C4FE4A.D49D4C50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Gabriel Orgrease" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 16:49 Subject: Re: [BP] music in life > Pamela S. Follett wrote: >=20 > > I've begun to see this new thing with house number around here, with = a > > couple houses displaying their number using led lights over the > > garage. My guess is one of the following: > > > > 1. The lights are the newest thing at Home Depot, Chase Pitkin (a > > local chain), Lowe's so they are a must have > > 2. They're part of an alarm system - perhaps for people with medical > > emergencies > > 3. They're markers for alien abductees > > > > Either way, I figure in 10 years, every house will have them = littering > > the landscape. > > > > - Pam > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > Cuyler Page > > (formerly known as JC, at 1222 Ellis Hollow Road when they > > finally invented house numbers) > > > I read red lights not led lights and wondered what was so remarkable = in > that. They do happen to be red led lights. I don't mean that they shine = lights on to their house numbers, but rather that their house numbers = are lights. > We use a green light at our house. Maybe this is why people think it's = OK just to walk into your house - green light =3D go. >=20 > ][< Pam >=20 > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > ------=_NextPart_000_017A_01C4FE4A.D49D4C50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gabriel Orgrease" <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005=20 16:49
Subject: Re: [BP] music in = life

> Pamela S. Follett wrote:
> =
> >=20 I've begun to see this new thing with house number around here, with = a
>=20 > couple houses displaying their number using led lights over = the
>=20 > garage.  My guess is one of the following:
> = >
> >=20 1. The lights are the newest thing at Home Depot, Chase Pitkin = (a
> >=20 local chain), Lowe's so they are a must have
> > 2. They're = part of an=20 alarm system - perhaps for people with medical
> > = emergencies
>=20 > 3. They're markers for alien abductees
> >
> > = Either=20 way, I figure in 10 years, every house will have them littering
> = > the=20 landscape.
> >
> > - Pam
> >
>=20 >     ----- Original Message -----
> = >
>=20 >     Cuyler Page
> = >    =20 (formerly known as JC, at 1222 Ellis Hollow Road when they
>=20 >     finally invented house numbers)
>=20 >
> I read red lights not led lights and wondered what was so=20 remarkable in
> that.
They do happen to be red led = lights. =20 I don't mean that they shine lights on to their house numbers, but = rather that=20 their house numbers are lights.
> We use a green light at = our=20 house. Maybe this is why people think it's OK just to walk into = your=20 house - green light =3D go.
>
> ][<=20 Pam
>
> --
> To terminate puerile=20 preservation prattling among pals and the
> uncoffee-ed, or to = change your=20 settings, go to:
> <<= FONT=20 face=3DArial=20 size=3D2>http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html>
>
------=_NextPart_000_017A_01C4FE4A.D49D4C50-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:19:50 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Walking up Landon Rd to Snyder Hill was a breath taker, too - especially in the winter on the way to the barn to feed/ride the horses at the corner of the 2 roads. At least Landon was paved. - Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gabriel Orgrease" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 16:46 Subject: Re: [BP] music in life > Cuyler Page wrote: > > > Did you play in Llenroc Stone Quarry or ride your bike down Turkey Hill? > > > > This BP connection list continues to blow my mind. > > > > Cuyler Page > > (formerly known as JC, at 1222 Ellis Hollow Road when they > > finally invented house numbers) > > cp, > > We lived in Besemer in the valley on the other side of the hill south of > Ellis Hollow. Many times I would walk up Besemer Hill Rd. (dirt), west > along Snyder Hill Road (roughly paved) and then down Genung Rd. (dirt) > on the opposite of the long hill to Turkey Hill Rd. The dirt roads were > fairly steep, Besemer Hill went pretty much straight up, making driving > down a bit rough, and hiking up a breath taker. Certainly did bike a few > times down Turkey Hill. Never played at Llenroc, but went there often > enough in young-adult mode to purchase stone. Bill Koski worked there > for many years. > > ][< > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 18:01:18 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Red Bug Light District (was music in life) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ][[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 17:07 Subject: Re: [BP] music in life > >That's funny, I read red lights too. And my craftsman porch lights are > green art glass as well! (Changed from yellow plastic bug light lenses > when we rehabbed the house.)< > > Dan, > > You got a real problem with yellow plastic bugs down there? Up here we > see 'em mostly in trailer parks... along with the strings of jalapeño > peppers. > > Rudy > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 14:59:44 -0800 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Cuyler Page <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Heritage Interpretation Services Subject: Re: music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Walking up Landon Rd to Snyder Hill was a breath taker, too - especially in > the winter on the way to the barn to feed/ride the horses at the corner of > the 2 roads. At least Landon was paved. I was always intrigued that of all the dirt roads on Snyder Hill, the horsy set got the paved part on Landon, and it was frequently repaved and always kept in perfect condition. The observation was an important part of my native culture socio-economic training as a child. Wouldn't want any dust on those nice cars or horse trailers. However, the horses were beautiful! Of course, the Cornell radio station transmitter was up there too, and with all the military/Cornell connections, maybe that is why that little well paved road was always plowed first and kept in better shape than Ellis Hollow Rd.even though hardly anyone lived up there. cp -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:43:48 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: music in life In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bill Koski, I wonder if he's related to Vern Koski, worked for Jay Dee, tunnel foreman, I worked with? -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Gabriel Orgrease Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 3:47 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BP] music in life Cuyler Page wrote: > Did you play in Llenroc Stone Quarry or ride your bike down Turkey Hill? > > This BP connection list continues to blow my mind. > > Cuyler Page > (formerly known as JC, at 1222 Ellis Hollow Road when they > finally invented house numbers) cp, We lived in Besemer in the valley on the other side of the hill south of Ellis Hollow. Many times I would walk up Besemer Hill Rd. (dirt), west along Snyder Hill Road (roughly paved) and then down Genung Rd. (dirt) on the opposite of the long hill to Turkey Hill Rd. The dirt roads were fairly steep, Besemer Hill went pretty much straight up, making driving down a bit rough, and hiking up a breath taker. Certainly did bike a few times down Turkey Hill. Never played at Llenroc, but went there often enough in young-adult mode to purchase stone. Bill Koski worked there for many years. ][< -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:46:04 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: music in life In-Reply-To: <007201c4fe59$179b1380$1f2134d1@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0180_01C4FE4E.BF181FF0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0180_01C4FE4E.BF181FF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Would this be the house on the southeast (more or less) corner of the intersection? -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Cuyler Page Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 12:38 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BP] music in life > Must say, I don't recall any sort of sign like that in Ellis Hollow - unless Martha was working out of her house. It was put up at the driveway of a farm house at the foot of Ringwood Road where a friend of mine had a minor mental war going on with the farmer. The farmer's sweet (unsweetened) daughter was fooling around with college boys much older than she, and the father took out his vengeance on my high school chum who lived down in the Hollow, accusing him public to anyone who would listen of terrible faults of character and minor crimes. My buddy installed a big mattress and the sign "Martha's Curb Service" at their mailbox one mid-night so the school bus and all the Profs going to work the next morning could learn the truth. Of course everyone knew everything anyway. The farmer was the only one who cared, but the event brought it all out in the public open, and the two parties were forced to call a truce to their public hostilities. After all, Ellis Hollow is a "Nice" place to live. cp now far away in bc ------=_NextPart_000_0180_01C4FE4E.BF181FF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Would=20 this be the house on the southeast (more or less) corner of the=20 intersection?
-----Original Message-----
From: Pre-patinated = plastic gumby=20 block w/ coin slot = [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On=20 Behalf Of Cuyler Page
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 = 12:38=20 PM
To: = [log in to unmask]
Subject:=20 Re: [BP] music in life


> Must say, I don't recall any = sort of sign=20 like that in Ellis Hollow - unless Martha was working out of her=20 house.
 
It was put up at the driveway of = a farm=20 house at the foot of Ringwood Road where a friend of mine had a = minor=20 mental war going on with the farmer.   The farmer's sweet=20 (unsweetened) daughter was fooling around with college boys much older = than=20 she, and the father took out his vengeance on my high school chum who = lived=20 down in the Hollow, accusing him public to anyone who would listen of = terrible=20 faults of character and minor crimes.   My buddy installed a = big=20 mattress and the sign "Martha's Curb Service" at their mailbox = one=20 mid-night so the school bus and all the Profs going to work the next = morning=20 could learn the truth.    Of course everyone knew = everything=20 anyway.  The farmer was the only one who cared, but the event = brought it=20 all out in the public open, and the two parties were forced to call a = truce to=20 their public hostilities.   After all, Ellis Hollow is a = "Nice"=20 place to live.
 
cp now far away in=20 bc
------=_NextPart_000_0180_01C4FE4E.BF181FF0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:48:01 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: music in life In-Reply-To: <004901c4fe7a$bf4d5cc0$952266cf@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The transmitter for WVBR was on that hill as I remember, that's the one you're talking about? -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Cuyler Page Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 5:00 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BP] music in life > Walking up Landon Rd to Snyder Hill was a breath taker, too - especially in > the winter on the way to the barn to feed/ride the horses at the corner of > the 2 roads. At least Landon was paved. I was always intrigued that of all the dirt roads on Snyder Hill, the horsy set got the paved part on Landon, and it was frequently repaved and always kept in perfect condition. The observation was an important part of my native culture socio-economic training as a child. Wouldn't want any dust on those nice cars or horse trailers. However, the horses were beautiful! Of course, the Cornell radio station transmitter was up there too, and with all the military/Cornell connections, maybe that is why that little well paved road was always plowed first and kept in better shape than Ellis Hollow Rd.even though hardly anyone lived up there. cp -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 18:59:35 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: music in life In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > **> We use a green light at our house. *Maybe this is why people think > it's OK just to walk into your house - green light = go. > * No unwelcomes have entered since the green light. Feng shui w/ axe. ][< -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:18:04 -0800 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Cuyler Page <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Heritage Interpretation Services Subject: Re: music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01C4FE4A.D63BE120" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C4FE4A.D63BE120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I wouldn't want to incriminate anyone (it seems to be a very small = world), but, let's just say you are awfully close. It was not right at = the corner. Had two driveway links to the road and a wrap-around = drive. cp Would this be the house on the southeast (more or less) corner of the = intersection? ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C4FE4A.D63BE120 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I wouldn't want to incriminate anyone = (it seems to=20 be a very small world), but, let's just say you are awfully = close.  =20 It was not right at the corner.   Had two driveway links to = the road=20 and a wrap-around drive.
 
cp

Would this be the house on the southeast (more or less) = corner of the=20 intersection?
 
------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C4FE4A.D63BE120-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:30:59 -0800 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Cuyler Page <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Heritage Interpretation Services Subject: Re: music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > The transmitter for WVBR was on that hill as I remember, that's the one > you're talking about? Don't recall the call letters, but it must be the same spot. My dad was always very proud to show us that little building up there as he detoured past it on the way home whenever we did a "Sunday drive" family outing with ice cream cones from Purity. Re. the little stone cottage on Mount Pleasant, that was my favourite magic place. I never saw it occupied, and spent many happy hours imagining life up there. During Arch. school at CU, I used it for a materials study, making pencil sketches of the mortar failures and beautiful stone shapes. The Prof. wondered why I wasted so much time studying such an insignificant building when I could have been studying the new Uris Library. Memory of it still colours my life. cp in bc (BC = Beyond Cornell) -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 20:02:48 -0800 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Milk delivery In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Bruce, I don't believe milk delivery is available locally anymore. We get ours from the farm next door but we have to have our own jug and go get it ourselves. That's not a problem for me as I've spent time in that barn all my life. Our neighbor also sells eggs and butter. Ruth PS: Please note change of subject line. At 12:39 PM -0500 1/19/05, Bruce Marcham wrote: Chris: Was that a drive-up farm stand? (Did you attend Cornell?) I'm guessing this predates Pam and Jim's knowledge of Ellis Hollow Road (or at least the days when they would've been driving themselves around). The only business I remember on Ellis Hollow Road was Mr. May's egg farm. He was a family friend (having gone to Cornell with my mother's parents in the mid to late '20's) and delivered eggs to our house for many years. That recollection reminds me of the insulated metal box that was on our front porch in the days when milk was delivered to the house (probably up until the late 50's or early 60's). Maybe they still do these things up in Ruth's neck of the woods... Bruce -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Dummerston, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 06:44:26 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106221465" -------------------------------1106221465 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/19/2005 12:40:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: That recollection reminds me of the insulated metal box that was on our front porch in the days when milk was delivered to the house (probably up until the late 50's or early 60's). Maybe they still do these things up in Ruth's neck of the woods... They still have these in Summit. One showed up at The Mall recently, but I took a pass. Ralph PS-- That's with an "a" -------------------------------1106221465 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/19/2005 12:40:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size= =3D2>Tha= t=20 recollection reminds me of the insulated metal box that was on o= ur=20 front porch in the days when milk was delivered to the house (probabl= y up=20 until the late 50's or early 60's). Maybe they still do these things up in= =20 Ruth's neck of the woods...
They still have these in Summit.  One showed up at The Mall recent= ly,=20 but I took a pass.
 
Ralph
 
PS-- That's with an "a"
-------------------------------1106221465-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 06:47:30 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: an urgent MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106221650" -------------------------------1106221650 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/19/2005 12:44:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: I'm not cold. In fact, I'm kind of warm. In my continuing effort to avoid the Nordic Trak I went out and shoveled the driveway, then the walk, then the porch and finally the pond. You shoveled the pond? Isn't that like herding cats? You didn' t want the fish to get cold under the snow? Maybe Ruth can explain this to Your faithful Beachbunny (beachball is more like it) -------------------------------1106221650 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/19/2005 12:44:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>I'm not=20 cold.  In fact, I'm kind of warm.  In my continuing effort to=20
avoid the Nordic Trak I went out and shoveled the driveway, then the=20
walk, then the porch and finally the pond.  <= /DIV>
You shoveled the pond?  Isn't that like herding cats? You did= n' t=20 want the fish to get cold under the snow?
 
Maybe Ruth can explain this to
 
Your faithful
 
Beachbunny (beachball is more like it)
-------------------------------1106221650-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 06:48:22 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: the gilded rule MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106221702" -------------------------------1106221702 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/19/2005 12:52:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: In a message, [log in to unmask] writes: (Notice how tactfully I avoided discussion of the significant females in Ralph's insignificant life.) that kind of language is cruel. just what drives away subscribers to BP. yrs aspcR I forgot about THAT one. How fickle we are. Even me. Ralph -------------------------------1106221702 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/19/2005 12:52:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D3>
In a message, [log in to unmask] writes:
(Notice how tactfully I avoided discussion of the significa= nt=20 females
in Ralph's insignificant life.)
that kind of language=20 is cruel.  just what drives away subscribers to=20 BP.    yrs aspcR
I forgot about THAT one.  How fickle we are.  Even=20 me.
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1106221702-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 06:49:18 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: the gilded rule MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106221758" -------------------------------1106221758 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/19/2005 1:00:05 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: A thousand pardons. HEY! THAT's not what I wrote! Now That's devious! One could cause a whole lot of trouble that way and never take the heat for it! -jc You'd just use the heat to melt the snow on your pond, anyway. Ralph -------------------------------1106221758 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/19/2005 1:00:05 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>A=20 thousand pardons.  HEY!  THAT's not what I wrote!  Now That= 's=20
devious!  One could cause a whole lot of trouble that way and nev= er=20
take the heat for it!

-jc
You'd just use the heat to melt the snow on your pond, anyway.
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1106221758-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 06:50:27 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: the gilded rule MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106221827" -------------------------------1106221827 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/19/2005 1:03:11 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Mary Krugman has caused a whole lot of trouble with her suave, sexy eyes, and she generates plenty of heat! That ought to smoke her out of her lurk. Ralph -------------------------------1106221827 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/19/2005 1:03:11 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D3> Mary Krugman has caused a whole lot of trouble with he= r=20 suave, sexy eyes, and she generates plenty of heat! =20
That ought to smoke her out of her lurk. 
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1106221827-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 06:57:32 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: an urgent MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106222252" -------------------------------1106222252 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/19/2005 12:07:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: That's me, cuz I'm cold (only not as cold as you, apparently - today'sd forecast is 30 but a lot of wind). Lotta wind is right. If Ralph's not gonna share with me, then I say he can't share with anybody! You kids stop this squabbling at once! He's just gonna take his money and leave the sandbox! First of all, ex-Mrs.-Ralph already took the money, so there's none left. I do have a few bits of lumber, the masonite cows, and a stack of stereos, for any of you heat-generating suave-eyed lady Pinheadettes who might be interested in the more spiritual aspects of life. Besides, I thought you like his mother better than him. And what's all this about my mother? Did all of you live down the street (or up the road) from her, too? Cause if you did, you musta lived up the street from me, too. :-O :-O is right. Woe is me. Ralph -------------------------------1106222252 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/19/2005 12:07:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>
That's me, cuz I'm cold (only not as cold= as you,=20 apparently - today'sd forecast is 30 but a lot of wind). Lott= a=20 wind is right.  If Ralph's not gonna share with me, then I s= ay=20 he can't share with anybody!  You kids stop this squabbling a= t=20 once! He's just gonna take his money and leave the=20 sandbox! First of all, ex-Mrs.-Ralph already took the mo= ney,=20 so there's none left.  I do have a few bits of lumber, the mason= ite=20 cows, and a stack of stereos, for any of you heat-generating suave-ey= ed=20 lady Pinheadettes who might be interested in the more spiritual aspects of= =20 life.  Besides, I thought you like his mother better th= an=20 him. And what's all this about my mother? Did all of you live down= the=20 street (or up the road) from her, too?  Cause if you did, you musta l= ived=20 up the street from me, too. :-O
:-O is right.  Woe is me.
 
Ralph
 
-------------------------------1106222252-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 07:00:43 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106222443" -------------------------------1106222443 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/19/2005 3:56:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Either way, I figure in 10 years, every house will have them littering the landscape. Not my house. God litters my landscape with leaves, broken branches, and the occasional cardboard beer carton. Ralph -------------------------------1106222443 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/19/2005 3:56:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>
Either way, I figure in 10 years, every h= ouse=20 will have them littering the landscape.
Not my house.  God litters my landscape with leaves, broke= n=20 branches, and the occasional cardboard beer carton.
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1106222443-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 08:00:37 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003A_01C4FEC6.2076C1D0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C4FEC6.2076C1D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 06:44 Subject: Re: [BP] music in life In a message dated 1/19/2005 12:40:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: That recollection reminds me of the insulated metal box that was on = our front porch in the days when milk was delivered to the house = (probably up until the late 50's or early 60's). Maybe they still do = these things up in Ruth's neck of the woods... They still have these in Summit. One showed up at The Mall recently, = but I took a pass. Ralph PS-- That's with an "a" We're all very happy that you didn't put an = "i" in the milk box. ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C4FEC6.2076C1D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----
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To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Thursday, January 20, = 2005=20 06:44
Subject: Re: [BP] music in = life

In a message dated 1/19/2005 12:40:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes:
That=20 recollection reminds me of the insulated metal box that = was on our=20 front porch in the days when milk was delivered to the house = (probably=20 up until the late 50's or early 60's). Maybe they still do these = things up=20 in Ruth's neck of the = woods...
They still have these in Summit.  One showed up at The Mall=20 recently, but I took a pass.
 
Ralph
 
PS-- That's with an "a" We're all very happy that you = didn't put=20 an "i" in the milk = box.
------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C4FEC6.2076C1D0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 08:01:37 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: an urgent MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0044_01C4FEC6.444133C0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0044_01C4FEC6.444133C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Have you ever considered a career at trade shows as a booth bunny? I = bet you in a swimsuit is quite a stunning effect. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 06:47 Subject: Re: [BP] an urgent In a message dated 1/19/2005 12:44:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: I'm not cold. In fact, I'm kind of warm. In my continuing effort = to=20 avoid the Nordic Trak I went out and shoveled the driveway, then the = walk, then the porch and finally the pond. =20 You shoveled the pond? Isn't that like herding cats? You didn' t want = the fish to get cold under the snow? Maybe Ruth can explain this to Your faithful Beachbunny (beachball is more like it) ------=_NextPart_000_0044_01C4FEC6.444133C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Have you ever considered a career at trade shows as a booth = bunny?  I=20 bet you in a swimsuit is quite a stunning effect.
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To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Thursday, January 20, = 2005=20 06:47
Subject: Re: [BP] an = urgent

In a message dated 1/19/2005 12:44:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] = writes:
I'm=20 not cold.  In fact, I'm kind of warm.  In my continuing = effort to=20
avoid the Nordic Trak I went out and shoveled the driveway, then = the=20
walk, then the porch and finally the pond. =20
You shoveled the pond?  Isn't that like herding = cats? You didn'=20 t want the fish to get cold under the snow?
 
Maybe Ruth can explain this to
 
Your faithful
 
Beachbunny (beachball is more like=20 it)
------=_NextPart_000_0044_01C4FEC6.444133C0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 08:32:03 -0400 Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Alfredo <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------70416017987BC0E78B0A5E9F" --------------70416017987BC0E78B0A5E9F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [log in to unmask] wrote: > In a message dated 1/19/2005 12:40:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > [log in to unmask] writes: > > That recollection reminds me of the insulated metal box that > was on our front porch in the days when milk was delivered > to the house (probably up until the late 50's or early > 60's). Maybe they still do these things up in Ruth's neck of > the woods... > > They still have these in Summit. One showed up at The Mall recently, > but I took a pass. Ralph PS-- That's with an "a" I have one of those milk boxes on my front porch. It's embossed with.. Dellwood...Creami-Rich Dairy Products. So far every time I've opened the lid it's been empty. I suppose it's good it doesn't say.... Pandora. Alfredo --------------70416017987BC0E78B0A5E9F Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [log in to unmask] wrote:
 In a message dated 1/19/2005 12:40:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
That recollection reminds me of the insulated metal box that was on our front porch in the days when milk was delivered to the house (probably up until the late 50's or early 60's). Maybe they still do these things up in Ruth's neck of the woods...
They still have these in Summit.  One showed up at The Mall recently, but I took a pass. Ralph PS-- That's with an "a"


     I have one of those milk boxes on my front porch.  It's embossed with.. Dellwood...Creami-Rich Dairy Products.  So far every time I've opened the lid it's been empty.  I suppose it's good it doesn't say.... Pandora.

Alfredo
  --------------70416017987BC0E78B0A5E9F-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 08:42:14 -0400 Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Alfredo <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: the gilded rule MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [log in to unmask] wrote: > In a message dated 1/19/2005 1:03:11 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > [log in to unmask] writes: > > Mary Krugman has caused a whole lot of trouble > with her suave, sexy eyes, and she generates > plenty of heat! > > That ought to smoke her out of her lurk. Ralph Ralph, Being a newcomer I'm afraid I'll need a few more (ahem..) details about this Mary Krugman with the soulful eyes. You know, so I can participate more fully in the Bulllamanka experience. Here's your chance to make it up to me ..Ralphy-boy! Alfredo -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 17:47:37 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Embossed & Its a Ralph problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106261257" -------------------------------1106261257 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/19/2005 7:48:26 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Maybe not for you Ralph - I imagine Christmas cards are still showing up in your mailbox. - Pam Yeah, right along with the Pinhead dues. Ralph -------------------------------1106261257 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

In a message dated 1/19/2005 7:48:26 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>
Maybe not for you Ralph - I imagine Christmas cards are still showing= up=20 in your mailbox.
 
- Pam
Yeah, right along with the Pinhead dues.
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1106261257-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 17:48:41 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: an urgent MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106261320" -------------------------------1106261320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/19/2005 8:06:56 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: You are indeed in rarified company. But I'm not giving you $350,000. I won't feel bad about it if you tell me you're not giving ANYONE $350K. Ralph Pam I'm glad you're not going to feel bad, because that's what I'm telling you. Ralph -------------------------------1106261320 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/19/2005 8:06:56 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>
You are indeed in rarified company.  But I'm not giving=20= you=20 $350,000.  I won't feel bad about it if you tell me you'= re=20 not giving ANYONE $350K.
 
Ralph Pam
I'm glad you're not going to feel bad, because that's what I'm=20 telling you.
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1106261320-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 17:49:21 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: an urgent MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106261361" -------------------------------1106261361 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/19/2005 8:17:15 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Thanks for the $350K Ralph. I'd like some more please. Since you aren't giving any to Pam, could I have her share? -jc You have already received her share. Ralph -------------------------------1106261361 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/19/2005 8:17:15 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>Thanks=20 for the $350K Ralph.  I'd like some more please.  Since you=20
aren't giving any to Pam, could I have her=20 share?

-jc
You have already received her share.
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1106261361-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 21:56:20 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: an urgent MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106276180" -------------------------------1106276180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/20/2005 7:47:53 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Have you ever considered a career at trade shows as a booth bunny? One of the advantages to having decided at the age of 10 or 12 that I wanted to be a architect is that I didn't give much consideration to alternate careers, including that one. I bet you in a swimsuit is quite a stunning effect. I am sure that many people would indeed be stunned. Thanks for the vote of confidence. Bitch. Ralph -------------------------------1106276180 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/20/2005 7:47:53 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>
Have you ever considered a career at trade shows as a booth=20 bunny? One of the advantages to having=20 decided at the age of 10 or 12 that I wanted to be a architect is tha= t I=20 didn't give much consideration to alternate careers, including that=20 one. I bet you in a swimsuit is quite a stunning effect.&nbs= p;=20 I am sure that many people would indeed be stunned. =20
Thanks for the vote of confidence. =20 Bitch.
 
Ralph
 
-------------------------------1106276180-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 21:52:57 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106275977" -------------------------------1106275977 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/20/2005 7:47:07 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: They still have these in Summit. One showed up at The Mall recently, but I took a pass. Ralph PS-- That's with an "a" We're all very happy that you didn't put an "i" in the milk box. Or a P. Ralph -------------------------------1106275977 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/20/2005 7:47:07 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>
They still have these in Summit.  One showed up at The Mall=20 recently, but I took a pass.
 
Ralph
 
PS-- That's with an "a" We're all very happy that you didn't=20= put=20 an "i" in the milk box.
Or a P.
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1106275977-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 21:41:24 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: an urgent In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--877334716 --Apple-Mail-1--877334716 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hey Ralph! the $350.00 arrived in today's mail! Thanks! - jc On Jan 20, 2005, at 4:48 PM, [log in to unmask] wrote: > > In a message dated 1/19/2005 8:06:56 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 > [log in to unmask] writes: > > You are indeed in rarified company.=A0 But I'm not giving you = $350,000.=A0=20 > I won't feel bad about it if you tell me you're not giving ANYONE=20 > $350K. > =A0 > Ralph Pam > I'm glad you're not going to feel bad, because that's what I'm telling=20= > you. > =A0 > Ralph --Apple-Mail-1--877334716 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hey Ralph! the $350.00 arrived in today's mail! Thanks! - jc On Jan 20, 2005, at 4:48 PM, [log in to unmask] wrote: ArialIn a message dated 1/19/2005 8:06:56 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] = writes: ArialYou are indeed in rarified company.=A0 But I'm not giving you $350,000.=A0 = A= rialI won't feel bad about it if you tell me you're not giving ANYONE = $350K. = Arial=A0 ArialRalph = A= rialPam ArialI'm glad you're not going to feel bad, because that's what I'm telling = you. = Arial=A0 = ArialRalph = --Apple-Mail-1--877334716-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 22:50:17 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: an urgent MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106279417" -------------------------------1106279417 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/20/2005 10:41:50 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Hey Ralph! the $350.00 arrived in today's mail! Thanks! - jc Whaddaya mean, $350.00? I put $350,000 in cash into an unsealed envelope. You better have a talk with your mailman.....if he's not in Rio. Several years back I sent some woman in CA something like $800 cash through the mail, in payment for a pair of (good) kraut binoculars on ebay. When the envelope arrived, the money was all in it---even though I hadn't bothered to seal the goddam envelope. Einstein -------------------------------1106279417 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/20/2005 10:41:50 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>Hey=20 Ralph! the $350.00 arrived in today's mail!  Thanks!

-=20 jc
Whaddaya mean, $350.00?  I put $350,000 in cash into an=20 unsealed envelope.  You better have a talk with your mailman.....i= f=20 he's not in Rio.
 
Several years back I sent some woman in CA something like=20= $800=20 cash through the mail, in payment for a pair of (good) kraut binoculars on=20 ebay.  When the envelope arrived, the money was all in it---even though= I=20 hadn't bothered to seal the goddam envelope. 
 
Einstein
-------------------------------1106279417-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 07:45:33 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: an urgent MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0028_01C4FF8D.305A9190" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C4FF8D.305A9190 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 21:56 Subject: Re: [BP] an urgent In a message dated 1/20/2005 7:47:53 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: Have you ever considered a career at trade shows as a booth bunny? = One of the advantages to having decided at the age of 10 or 12 that I = wanted to be a architect is that I didn't give much consideration to = alternate careers, including that one. I bet you in a swimsuit is quite = a stunning effect. I am sure that many people would indeed be stunned. = Hence why you'd make the perfect booth bunny. But, hey, if you don't = want to consider such an exciting career change, it's no bikini top off = my back.=20 Thanks for the vote of confidence. Bitch. Ralph ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C4FF8D.305A9190 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]=20
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Thursday, January 20, = 2005=20 21:56
Subject: Re: [BP] an = urgent

In a message dated 1/20/2005 7:47:53 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask]=20 writes:
Have you ever considered a career at trade shows as a booth=20 bunny? One of the advantages to = having=20 decided at the age of 10 or 12 that I wanted to be a = architect is that=20 I didn't give much consideration to alternate careers, including = that=20 one. I bet you in a swimsuit is quite a stunning = effect. =20 I am sure that many people would indeed be stunned. =20 Hence why you'd make the perfect booth bunny.  = But, hey,=20 if you don't want to consider such an exciting career change, it's = no bikini=20 top off my back. 
Thanks for the vote of confidence. =20 Bitch.
 
Ralph
 
------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C4FF8D.305A9190-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 07:46:12 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: an urgent MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0038_01C4FF8D.471A15E0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01C4FF8D.471A15E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable jc - I hate to tell you this, but I think Ralph shorted you a couple 0's. - Pam ----- Original Message -----=20 From: John Callan=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 22:41 Subject: Re: [BP] an urgent Hey Ralph! the $350.00 arrived in today's mail! Thanks! - jc On Jan 20, 2005, at 4:48 PM, [log in to unmask] wrote: In a message dated 1/19/2005 8:06:56 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: You are indeed in rarified company. But I'm not giving you = $350,000. I won't feel bad about it if you tell me you're not giving = ANYONE $350K. =20 Ralph Pam I'm glad you're not going to feel bad, because that's what I'm = telling you. =20 Ralph ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01C4FF8D.471A15E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
jc -
 
I hate to tell you this, but I think = Ralph shorted=20 you a couple 0's.
 
- Pam
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">John Callan=20
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Thursday, January 20, = 2005=20 22:41
Subject: Re: [BP] an = urgent

Hey Ralph! the $350.00 arrived in today's mail!=20 Thanks!

- jc

On Jan 20, 2005, at 4:48 PM, [log in to unmask] wrote:


In a=20 message dated 1/19/2005 8:06:56 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] = writes:


You=20 are indeed in rarified company.  But I'm not giving you = $350,000. =20 I=20 won't feel bad about it if you tell me you're not giving ANYONE = $350K.

 

Ralph=20 Pam

I'm=20 glad you're not going to feel bad, because that's what I'm telling = you.

 

Ralph

------=_NextPart_000_0038_01C4FF8D.471A15E0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 07:48:49 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: an urgent MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0042_01C4FF8D.A4AC3F80" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C4FF8D.A4AC3F80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's like the fact certain top secret documents get shipped all over = the country via FedEx (this from a dude who used to work at NORAD - = Even though he had clearance to work there, he didn't have clearance to = sign to receive the document from the FedEx employee who had no = clearance at all). - Pam ----- Original Message -----=20 From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 22:50 Subject: Re: [BP] an urgent In a message dated 1/20/2005 10:41:50 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: Hey Ralph! the $350.00 arrived in today's mail! Thanks! - jc Whaddaya mean, $350.00? I put $350,000 in cash into an unsealed = envelope. You better have a talk with your mailman.....if he's not in = Rio. Several years back I sent some woman in CA something like $800 cash = through the mail, in payment for a pair of (good) kraut binoculars on = ebay. When the envelope arrived, the money was all in it---even though = I hadn't bothered to seal the goddam envelope.=20 Einstein ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C4FF8D.A4AC3F80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That's like the fact certain top secret documents get shipped all = over the=20 country via FedEx (this from a dude who used to work at NORAD -  = Even=20 though he had clearance to work there, he didn't have clearance to = sign to=20 receive the document from the FedEx employee who had no clearance = at=20 all).
 
- Pam
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]=20
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Thursday, January 20, = 2005=20 22:50
Subject: Re: [BP] an = urgent

In a message dated 1/20/2005 10:41:50 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] = writes:
Hey=20 Ralph! the $350.00 arrived in today's mail!  Thanks!

-=20 jc
Whaddaya mean, $350.00?  I put $350,000 in cash into = an=20 unsealed envelope.  You better have a talk with your = mailman.....if=20 he's not in Rio.
 
Several years back I sent some woman in CA something = like=20 $800 cash through the mail, in payment for a pair of (good) kraut = binoculars=20 on ebay.  When the envelope arrived, the money was all in = it---even=20 though I hadn't bothered to seal the goddam = envelope. 
 
Einstein
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Original Picasso sells on Costco Web=20 site
Drawing listed for $39,999.99
01/21/05 = 07:07=20 AM, EST
Costco shoppers were offered an online deal this month -- an = original=20 Picasso.
FULL STORY
------=_NextPart_000_0090_01C4FFA4.03406DD0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 09:32:53 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: an urgent In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--834645059 --Apple-Mail-1--834645059 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Oh. Ooh! -jc On Jan 21, 2005, at 6:46 AM, Pamela S. Follett wrote: > jc - > =A0 > I hate to tell you this, but I think Ralph shorted you a couple 0's. > =A0 > - Pam > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John Callan > To: [log in to unmask] > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 22:41 > Subject: Re: [BP] an urgent > > Hey Ralph! the $350.00 arrived in today's mail! Thanks! > > - jc > > On Jan 20, 2005, at 4:48 PM, [log in to unmask] wrote: > > > > In a message dated 1/19/2005 8:06:56 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 > [log in to unmask] writes: > > > You are indeed in rarified company.=A0 But I'm not giving you = $350,000.=A0=20 > I won't feel bad about it if you tell me you're not giving ANYONE=20 > $350K. > > =A0 > > Ralph Pam > > I'm glad you're not going to feel bad, because that's what I'm telling=20= > you. > > =A0 > > Ralph > --Apple-Mail-1--834645059 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Oh. Ooh! -jc On Jan 21, 2005, at 6:46 AM, Pamela S. Follett wrote: Arialjc = - =A0 ArialI hate to tell you this, but I think Ralph shorted you a couple = 0's. =A0 Arial- = Pam Arial----- Original Message ----- Arial = From: 0000,0000,EEEEJohn Callan = = ArialTo:Arial = 0000,0000,EEEEBULLAMA= [log in to unmask] = = ArialSent:= Arial Thursday, January 20, 2005 22:41 = ArialSubject:Arial Re: [BP] an urgent Hey Ralph! the $350.00 arrived in today's mail! Thanks! - jc On Jan 20, 2005, at 4:48 PM, 0000,0000,EEEE[log in to unmask] wrote: In a message dated 1/19/2005 8:06:56 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 0000,0000,EEEE[log in to unmask] writes: You are indeed in rarified company.=A0 But I'm not giving you $350,000.=A0 I won't feel bad about it if you tell me you're not giving ANYONE $350K. =A0 Ralph Pam I'm glad you're not going to feel bad, because that's what I'm telling you. =A0 Ralph = --Apple-Mail-1--834645059-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:46:48 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: creighton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This BP connection list continues to blow my mind. Me too, I've just been reading The Gangly Country Cousin describing Lehigh valley's Auburn division. A large trestle spanned the Brooktondale valley and landed near the old Follet Mansion in Besemer. I remember my Grandmother Rutherford taking the train form Ithaca to NYC. When fact checking with my mother she told me grandma was the only passenger on the train and the last passenger to ride on that line. Book edited by John Marcham. Also living nearby, on Ellis Hollow Rd, Katy Payne , who studies low frequency comunication of whales and elephants. I'm sure she could help Ken with his thumpr project. Setting steel today, thankfully the wind kept down cheers creighton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gabriel Orgrease" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 4:46 PM Subject: Re: [BP] music in life > Cuyler Page wrote: > >> Did you play in Llenroc Stone Quarry or ride your bike down Turkey Hill? >> >> This BP connection list continues to blow my mind. >> >> Cuyler Page >> (formerly known as JC, at 1222 Ellis Hollow Road when they >> finally invented house numbers) > > cp, > > We lived in Besemer in the valley on the other side of the hill south of > Ellis Hollow. Many times I would walk up Besemer Hill Rd. (dirt), west > along Snyder Hill Road (roughly paved) and then down Genung Rd. (dirt) > on the opposite of the long hill to Turkey Hill Rd. The dirt roads were > fairly steep, Besemer Hill went pretty much straight up, making driving > down a bit rough, and hiking up a breath taker. Certainly did bike a few > times down Turkey Hill. Never played at Llenroc, but went there often > enough in young-adult mode to purchase stone. Bill Koski worked there > for many years. > > ][< > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:52:51 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: cha-cha MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106344371" -------------------------------1106344371 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Get smart kid, become a Cha-Cha instructor." 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-------------------------------1106344371-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:55:39 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: music in life In-Reply-To: <002201c50002$b92f5a30$20c2f63f@D9KP2H41> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Creighton: I was looking through some old Leigh Valley books I have ( probably the same as yours, some relative of Bruce Marcham's) I don't think the Leigh Valley went past Besemer, if your talking about the trestle that crossed Six Mile Creek, and later Brooktondale Rd., about 1 1/2 south of the estate property. Jim -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of creighton Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 3:47 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BP] music in life This BP connection list continues to blow my mind. Me too, I've just been reading The Gangly Country Cousin describing Lehigh valley's Auburn division. A large trestle spanned the Brooktondale valley and landed near the old Follet Mansion in Besemer. I remember my Grandmother Rutherford taking the train form Ithaca to NYC. When fact checking with my mother she told me grandma was the only passenger on the train and the last passenger to ride on that line. Book edited by John Marcham. Also living nearby, on Ellis Hollow Rd, Katy Payne , who studies low frequency comunication of whales and elephants. I'm sure she could help Ken with his thumpr project. Setting steel today, thankfully the wind kept down cheers creighton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gabriel Orgrease" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 4:46 PM Subject: Re: [BP] music in life > Cuyler Page wrote: > >> Did you play in Llenroc Stone Quarry or ride your bike down Turkey Hill? >> >> This BP connection list continues to blow my mind. >> >> Cuyler Page >> (formerly known as JC, at 1222 Ellis Hollow Road when they >> finally invented house numbers) > > cp, > > We lived in Besemer in the valley on the other side of the hill south of > Ellis Hollow. Many times I would walk up Besemer Hill Rd. (dirt), west > along Snyder Hill Road (roughly paved) and then down Genung Rd. (dirt) > on the opposite of the long hill to Turkey Hill Rd. The dirt roads were > fairly steep, Besemer Hill went pretty much straight up, making driving > down a bit rough, and hiking up a breath taker. Certainly did bike a few > times down Turkey Hill. Never played at Llenroc, but went there often > enough in young-adult mode to purchase stone. Bill Koski worked there > for many years. > > ][< > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:20:19 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Bruce Marcham <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ctb: My parents used one of the trestle pictures for their Xmas card this = year. Each year they pick a picture that tells of their experiences in = the past year--I guess my dad was pretty wrapped up in that book. Dad = is the historian in the family (also the one in our family who has lived = in Ithaca the longest, though he is about tied with my grandfather who = came there from England in his young 20's and stayed, living to about = 94). Bruce -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Jim Follett Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 4:56 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BP] music in life Creighton: I was looking through some old Leigh Valley books I have ( probably the same as yours, some relative of Bruce Marcham's) I don't think the Leigh Valley went past Besemer, if your talking about the trestle that crossed = Six Mile Creek, and later Brooktondale Rd., about 1 1/2 south of the estate property. Jim -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of creighton Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 3:47 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BP] music in life This BP connection list continues to blow my mind. Me too, I've just = been reading The Gangly Country Cousin describing Lehigh valley's Auburn division. A large trestle spanned the Brooktondale valley and landed = near the old Follet Mansion in Besemer. I remember my Grandmother Rutherford taking the train form Ithaca to NYC. When fact checking with my mother = she told me grandma was the only passenger on the train and the last = passenger to ride on that line. Book edited by John Marcham. Also living nearby, = on Ellis Hollow Rd, Katy Payne , who studies low frequency comunication of whales and elephants. I'm sure she could help Ken with his thumpr = project. Setting steel today, thankfully the wind kept down cheers creighton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gabriel Orgrease" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 4:46 PM Subject: Re: [BP] music in life > Cuyler Page wrote: > >> Did you play in Llenroc Stone Quarry or ride your bike down Turkey = Hill? >> >> This BP connection list continues to blow my mind. >> >> Cuyler Page >> (formerly known as JC, at 1222 Ellis Hollow Road when they >> finally invented house numbers) > > cp, > > We lived in Besemer in the valley on the other side of the hill south = of > Ellis Hollow. Many times I would walk up Besemer Hill Rd. (dirt), west > along Snyder Hill Road (roughly paved) and then down Genung Rd. (dirt) > on the opposite of the long hill to Turkey Hill Rd. The dirt roads = were > fairly steep, Besemer Hill went pretty much straight up, making = driving > down a bit rough, and hiking up a breath taker. Certainly did bike a = few > times down Turkey Hill. Never played at Llenroc, but went there often > enough in young-adult mode to purchase stone. Bill Koski worked there > for many years. > > ][< > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:07:59 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Do we dare tell anyone that the mansion was 900 square feet but the estate rambled on for 8 acres? Anyway, I always thought the train stop had crossed Besemer Hill Road, which would have been north of the manor house, wouldn't it? Getting old really sucks when there's too much other stuff cluttering the brain. - Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Follett" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 16:55 Subject: Re: [BP] music in life > Creighton: > > I was looking through some old Leigh Valley books I have ( probably the > same as yours, some relative of Bruce Marcham's) I don't think the Leigh > Valley went past Besemer, if your talking about the trestle that crossed Six > Mile Creek, and later Brooktondale Rd., about 1 1/2 south of the estate > property. > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of creighton > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 3:47 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [BP] music in life > > > This BP connection list continues to blow my mind. Me too, I've just been > reading The Gangly Country Cousin describing Lehigh valley's Auburn > division. A large trestle spanned the Brooktondale valley and landed near > the old Follet Mansion in Besemer. I remember my Grandmother Rutherford > taking the train form Ithaca to NYC. When fact checking with my mother she > told me grandma was the only passenger on the train and the last passenger > to ride on that line. Book edited by John Marcham. Also living nearby, on > Ellis Hollow Rd, Katy Payne , who studies low frequency comunication of > whales and elephants. I'm sure she could help Ken with his thumpr project. > Setting steel today, thankfully the wind kept down cheers creighton > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gabriel Orgrease" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 4:46 PM > Subject: Re: [BP] music in life > > > > Cuyler Page wrote: > > > >> Did you play in Llenroc Stone Quarry or ride your bike down Turkey Hill? > >> > >> This BP connection list continues to blow my mind. > >> > >> Cuyler Page > >> (formerly known as JC, at 1222 Ellis Hollow Road when they > >> finally invented house numbers) > > > > cp, > > > > We lived in Besemer in the valley on the other side of the hill south of > > Ellis Hollow. Many times I would walk up Besemer Hill Rd. (dirt), west > > along Snyder Hill Road (roughly paved) and then down Genung Rd. (dirt) > > on the opposite of the long hill to Turkey Hill Rd. The dirt roads were > > fairly steep, Besemer Hill went pretty much straight up, making driving > > down a bit rough, and hiking up a breath taker. Certainly did bike a few > > times down Turkey Hill. Never played at Llenroc, but went there often > > enough in young-adult mode to purchase stone. Bill Koski worked there > > for many years. > > > > ][< > > > > -- > > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > > > > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:06:29 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: music in life In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Do you remember behind George Besemer's house was an octagon shaped concrete foundation, back in a notch in the hillside? That was the base of the water tower, according to dad, the train would stop in Besemer for coal and water, since it was easier there than in Ithaca. They also picked up milk from the Besemer farm. If you crossed Route 79 diagonally, to the south, just east of the bridge over the creek, the railroad bed is still visible heading toward Brooktondale. -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Pamela S. Follett Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 5:08 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BP] music in life Do we dare tell anyone that the mansion was 900 square feet but the estate rambled on for 8 acres? Anyway, I always thought the train stop had crossed Besemer Hill Road, which would have been north of the manor house, wouldn't it? Getting old really sucks when there's too much other stuff cluttering the brain. - Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Follett" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 16:55 Subject: Re: [BP] music in life > Creighton: > > I was looking through some old Leigh Valley books I have ( probably the > same as yours, some relative of Bruce Marcham's) I don't think the Leigh > Valley went past Besemer, if your talking about the trestle that crossed Six > Mile Creek, and later Brooktondale Rd., about 1 1/2 south of the estate > property. > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of creighton > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 3:47 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [BP] music in life > > > This BP connection list continues to blow my mind. Me too, I've just been > reading The Gangly Country Cousin describing Lehigh valley's Auburn > division. A large trestle spanned the Brooktondale valley and landed near > the old Follet Mansion in Besemer. I remember my Grandmother Rutherford > taking the train form Ithaca to NYC. When fact checking with my mother she > told me grandma was the only passenger on the train and the last passenger > to ride on that line. Book edited by John Marcham. Also living nearby, on > Ellis Hollow Rd, Katy Payne , who studies low frequency comunication of > whales and elephants. I'm sure she could help Ken with his thumpr project. > Setting steel today, thankfully the wind kept down cheers creighton > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gabriel Orgrease" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 4:46 PM > Subject: Re: [BP] music in life > > > > Cuyler Page wrote: > > > >> Did you play in Llenroc Stone Quarry or ride your bike down Turkey Hill? > >> > >> This BP connection list continues to blow my mind. > >> > >> Cuyler Page > >> (formerly known as JC, at 1222 Ellis Hollow Road when they > >> finally invented house numbers) > > > > cp, > > > > We lived in Besemer in the valley on the other side of the hill south of > > Ellis Hollow. Many times I would walk up Besemer Hill Rd. (dirt), west > > along Snyder Hill Road (roughly paved) and then down Genung Rd. (dirt) > > on the opposite of the long hill to Turkey Hill Rd. The dirt roads were > > fairly steep, Besemer Hill went pretty much straight up, making driving > > down a bit rough, and hiking up a breath taker. Certainly did bike a few > > times down Turkey Hill. Never played at Llenroc, but went there often > > enough in young-adult mode to purchase stone. Bill Koski worked there > > for many years. > > > > ][< > > > > -- > > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > > > > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:11:37 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: music in life In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ah who cares? Now leave me alone, I'm listening to Gershwin. -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Pamela S. Follett Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 5:08 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BP] music in life Do we dare tell anyone that the mansion was 900 square feet but the estate rambled on for 8 acres? Anyway, I always thought the train stop had crossed Besemer Hill Road, which would have been north of the manor house, wouldn't it? Getting old really sucks when there's too much other stuff cluttering the brain. - Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Follett" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 16:55 Subject: Re: [BP] music in life > Creighton: > > I was looking through some old Leigh Valley books I have ( probably the > same as yours, some relative of Bruce Marcham's) I don't think the Leigh > Valley went past Besemer, if your talking about the trestle that crossed Six > Mile Creek, and later Brooktondale Rd., about 1 1/2 south of the estate > property. > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of creighton > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 3:47 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [BP] music in life > > > This BP connection list continues to blow my mind. Me too, I've just been > reading The Gangly Country Cousin describing Lehigh valley's Auburn > division. A large trestle spanned the Brooktondale valley and landed near > the old Follet Mansion in Besemer. I remember my Grandmother Rutherford > taking the train form Ithaca to NYC. When fact checking with my mother she > told me grandma was the only passenger on the train and the last passenger > to ride on that line. Book edited by John Marcham. Also living nearby, on > Ellis Hollow Rd, Katy Payne , who studies low frequency comunication of > whales and elephants. I'm sure she could help Ken with his thumpr project. > Setting steel today, thankfully the wind kept down cheers creighton > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gabriel Orgrease" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 4:46 PM > Subject: Re: [BP] music in life > > > > Cuyler Page wrote: > > > >> Did you play in Llenroc Stone Quarry or ride your bike down Turkey Hill? > >> > >> This BP connection list continues to blow my mind. > >> > >> Cuyler Page > >> (formerly known as JC, at 1222 Ellis Hollow Road when they > >> finally invented house numbers) > > > > cp, > > > > We lived in Besemer in the valley on the other side of the hill south of > > Ellis Hollow. Many times I would walk up Besemer Hill Rd. (dirt), west > > along Snyder Hill Road (roughly paved) and then down Genung Rd. (dirt) > > on the opposite of the long hill to Turkey Hill Rd. The dirt roads were > > fairly steep, Besemer Hill went pretty much straight up, making driving > > down a bit rough, and hiking up a breath taker. Certainly did bike a few > > times down Turkey Hill. Never played at Llenroc, but went there often > > enough in young-adult mode to purchase stone. Bill Koski worked there > > for many years. > > > > ][< > > > > -- > > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > > > > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:43:21 -0800 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Cuyler Page <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Heritage Interpretation Services Subject: Re: music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I've just been > reading The Gangly Country Cousin describing Lehigh valley's Auburn > division. A large trestle spanned the Brooktondale valley and landed near > the old Follet Mansion in Besemer. I remember my Grandmother Rutherford > taking the train form Ithaca to NYC. My dad used to say the Bessemer line was not the Lehigh Valley RR but a small RR company, the "Bessemer & ..?... RR" or something like that. We used to check our clocks each evening when we heard the whistle (steam engine era) as it crossed some side road along the Slaterville Road on the other side of Snyder hill precisely at 7 pm each evening heading East. I road the Lehigh Valley from Ithaca to NYC once as a little kid and remember it as a fantastic but noisy clanky trip. Did it go down through the Delaware Water Gap? The scary part was looking way down at the water of a big river from way up in the rattley car seemingly suspended on the edge of a curvy rocky ledge, and then seeing the steam engine way up ahead disappear around a corner. I knew what happened to the family Lionel Train engine when it went too fast, and the Lehigh seemed to be quite out of control to my little mind! Was privileged to see Richard and pretty Pat Nixon on the back porch of the Lehigh Valley lounge car at 7 am at Ithaca Station, waving and talking to the small faithful early morning crowd as they campaigned for their first VP job. Pissed off the locals by not scheduling the wave at a more important time of day when more people would come out, but maybe they though Ithaca was a farm town and not a place of late night late morning intellect. The word on the street was that they had more important places to go that day and had to get started early after their midnight sleep stop at the station. She had my vote! Also remember the first Diesel engine on the Lehigh. Town all excited and we had to go down to meet it as it pulled in. I couldn't imagine a machine more boring, but maybe I was becoming a teenager. cp in bc -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 20:56:41 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: an urgent MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106359001" -------------------------------1106359001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/21/2005 7:32:11 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Hence why you'd make the perfect booth bunny. But, hey, if you don't want to consider such an exciting career change, it's no bikini top off my back. Why is it that nobody appreciates it when you do them favors? Ralph -------------------------------1106359001 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/21/2005 7:32:11 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000=20 size=3D2>Hence why you'd make the perfect booth=20 bunny.  But, hey, if you don't want to consider such an exciting care= er=20 change, it's no bikini top off my=20 back. 
Why is it that nobody appreciates it when you do them favors?
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1106359001-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 20:57:09 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: an urgent MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106359029" -------------------------------1106359029 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/21/2005 7:32:33 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: jc - I hate to tell you this, but I think Ralph shorted you a couple 0's. - Pam Not 0's, G's. Ralph -------------------------------1106359029 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/21/2005 7:32:33 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
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jc -
 
I hate to tell you this, but I think Ralp= h=20 shorted you a couple 0's.
 
- Pam
Not 0's, G's.
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1106359029-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:50:49 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106362248" -------------------------------1106362248 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/21/2005 6:13:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Ah who cares? Now leave me alone, I'm listening to Gershwin. Jim, I think you better get out of Texas before they throw you out. Ralph -------------------------------1106362248 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/21/2005 6:13:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>Ah who=20 cares? Now leave me alone, I'm listening to=20 Gershwin.
Jim,
 
I think you better get out of Texas before they throw you out.
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1106362248-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 20:59:24 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [BULK] Re: [BP] music in life In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0002_01C4FFFC.16AA2F70" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C4FFFC.16AA2F70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ralph: Too many roots ( the wife's family) to leave any time soon, but I have told her, I'm not retiring here, plan on going someplace with seasons, and some topography, as for Gershwin, it's been a very busy week, and it's great music, not one deep banging bass sound in it. Jim -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of [log in to unmask] Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 8:51 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [BULK] Re: [BP] music in life Importance: Low In a message dated 1/21/2005 6:13:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Ah who cares? Now leave me alone, I'm listening to Gershwin. Jim, I think you better get out of Texas before they throw you out. Ralph ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C4FFFC.16AA2F70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ralph:
 
 Too many roots ( the wife's = family) to=20 leave any time soon, but I have told her, I'm not retiring here, plan on = going=20 someplace with seasons, and some topography, as for Gershwin, it's been = a very=20 busy week, and it's great music, not one deep banging bass sound in it.=20
 
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: Pre-patinated = plastic=20 gumby block w/ coin slot=20 [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of=20 [log in to unmask]
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 8:51=20 PM
To: = [log in to unmask]
Subject:=20 [BULK] Re: [BP] music in life
Importance:=20 Low

In a message dated 1/21/2005 6:13:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
Ah who cares? = Now leave me=20 alone, I'm listening to Gershwin.
Jim,
 
I think you better get out of Texas before they throw you = out.
 
Ralph
------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C4FFFC.16AA2F70-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 21:47:04 -0800 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: music in life In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Congratulations Jim!!!!! You're the first one, in I don't know how many posts, to make mention of music under this subject line. I think someone should be in charge of changing the subject line weekly, even if it doesn't match what we're talking about. Just change it to be different. Ruth At 5:11 PM -0600 1/21/05, Jim Follett wrote: >Ah who cares? Now leave me alone, I'm listening to Gershwin. -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Dummerston, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 22:43:09 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106365389" -------------------------------1106365389 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/21/2005 10:23:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Congratulations Jim!!!!! You're the first one, in I don't know how many posts, to make mention of music under this subject line. I think someone should be in charge of changing the subject line weekly, even if it doesn't match what we're talking about. Just change it to be different. Ruth Ruth, The subject line is HISTORIC, for God's sake! Ralph -------------------------------1106365389 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/21/2005 10:23:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000=20 size=3D2>Congratulations Jim!!!!!  You're the first one, in I don't k= now=20 how many
posts, to make mention of music under this subject line.
I=20 think someone should be in charge of changing the subject line weekly,
= even=20 if it doesn't match what we're talking about.  Just change it to=20 be
different.  Ruth
Ruth,
 
The subject line is HISTORIC, for God's sake!
Ralph
-------------------------------1106365389-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:04:39 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: an urgent In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--785938831 --Apple-Mail-1--785938831 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Oh geez. On Jan 21, 2005, at 7:57 PM, [log in to unmask] wrote: > > In a message dated 1/21/2005 7:32:33 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 > [log in to unmask] writes: > > jc - > =A0 > I hate to tell you this, but I think Ralph shorted you a couple 0's. > =A0 > - Pam > Not 0's, G's. > =A0 > Ralph --Apple-Mail-1--785938831 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Oh geez.=20 On Jan 21, 2005, at 7:57 PM, [log in to unmask] wrote: ArialIn a message dated 1/21/2005 7:32:33 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] = writes: Arialjc = - = Arial=A0 ArialI hate to tell you this, but I think Ralph shorted you a couple = 0's. = Arial=A0 Arial- = Pam ArialNot 0's, = G's. = Arial=A0 = ArialRalph = --Apple-Mail-1--785938831-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 00:28:51 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Dan Becker <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: music in life In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit On 1/22/05 12:47 AM, "Ruth Barton" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > I think someone should be in charge of changing the subject line weekly, > even if it doesn't match what we're talking about. Just change it to be > different. Ruth I learned long ago that it was best not to comment on how a job could be done better. That was merely issuing myself an invitation for a new job. Ruth, we deign you Keeper of the Subject Line. dan that's music to my ears becker -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 09:46:20 -0800 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: music in life In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Dan, I knew I was opening myself up for that one. Ruth At 12:28 AM -0500 1/22/05, Dan Becker wrote: >On 1/22/05 12:47 AM, "Ruth Barton" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> I think someone should be in charge of changing the subject line weekly, >> even if it doesn't match what we're talking about. Just change it to be >> different. Ruth > >I learned long ago that it was best not to comment on how a job could be >done better. That was merely issuing myself an invitation for a new job. > >Ruth, we deign you Keeper of the Subject Line. > >dan that's music to my ears becker -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Dummerston, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 10:50:04 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Didn't he die? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Follett" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 18:11 Subject: Re: [BP] music in life > Ah who cares? Now leave me alone, I'm listening to Gershwin. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Pamela S. > Follett > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 5:08 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [BP] music in life > > > Do we dare tell anyone that the mansion was 900 square feet but the estate > rambled on for 8 acres? > > Anyway, I always thought the train stop had crossed Besemer Hill Road, which > would have been north of the manor house, wouldn't it? Getting old really > sucks when there's too much other stuff cluttering the brain. > > - Pam > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Follett" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 16:55 > Subject: Re: [BP] music in life > > > > Creighton: > > > > I was looking through some old Leigh Valley books I have ( probably the > > same as yours, some relative of Bruce Marcham's) I don't think the Leigh > > Valley went past Besemer, if your talking about the trestle that crossed > Six > > Mile Creek, and later Brooktondale Rd., about 1 1/2 south of the estate > > property. > > > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of creighton > > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 3:47 PM > > To: [log in to unmask] > > Subject: Re: [BP] music in life > > > > > > This BP connection list continues to blow my mind. Me too, I've just been > > reading The Gangly Country Cousin describing Lehigh valley's Auburn > > division. A large trestle spanned the Brooktondale valley and landed near > > the old Follet Mansion in Besemer. I remember my Grandmother Rutherford > > taking the train form Ithaca to NYC. When fact checking with my mother she > > told me grandma was the only passenger on the train and the last passenger > > to ride on that line. Book edited by John Marcham. Also living nearby, on > > Ellis Hollow Rd, Katy Payne , who studies low frequency comunication of > > whales and elephants. I'm sure she could help Ken with his thumpr project. > > Setting steel today, thankfully the wind kept down cheers creighton > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gabriel Orgrease" <[log in to unmask]> > > To: <[log in to unmask]> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 4:46 PM > > Subject: Re: [BP] music in life > > > > > > > Cuyler Page wrote: > > > > > >> Did you play in Llenroc Stone Quarry or ride your bike down Turkey > Hill? > > >> > > >> This BP connection list continues to blow my mind. > > >> > > >> Cuyler Page > > >> (formerly known as JC, at 1222 Ellis Hollow Road when they > > >> finally invented house numbers) > > > > > > cp, > > > > > > We lived in Besemer in the valley on the other side of the hill south of > > > Ellis Hollow. Many times I would walk up Besemer Hill Rd. (dirt), west > > > along Snyder Hill Road (roughly paved) and then down Genung Rd. (dirt) > > > on the opposite of the long hill to Turkey Hill Rd. The dirt roads were > > > fairly steep, Besemer Hill went pretty much straight up, making driving > > > down a bit rough, and hiking up a breath taker. Certainly did bike a few > > > times down Turkey Hill. Never played at Llenroc, but went there often > > > enough in young-adult mode to purchase stone. Bill Koski worked there > > > for many years. > > > > > > ][< > > > > > > -- > > > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > > > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > > > > > > > > > -- > > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > > > > > -- > > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > > > > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 10:54:51 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: GWB Library MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0040_01C50070.CC7AE370" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C50070.CC7AE370 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I figure you have at most 4 years left there, since Bubba plans to "come = home to Texas" when he's all done. So, here's a quick survey - will the = GWB Library be housed in Texas, Maine, or Connecticutt? Say, Ralph, you = got the drawings done yet on that blue paper so we can hang it on the = wall? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jim Follett=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 21:59 Subject: Re: [BP] [BULK] Re: [BP] music in life Ralph: Too many roots ( the wife's family) to leave any time soon, but I = have told her, I'm not retiring here, plan on going someplace with = seasons, and some topography, as for Gershwin, it's been a very busy = week, and it's great music, not one deep banging bass sound in it.=20 Jim -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot = [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of = [log in to unmask] Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 8:51 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [BULK] Re: [BP] music in life Importance: Low In a message dated 1/21/2005 6:13:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: Ah who cares? Now leave me alone, I'm listening to Gershwin. Jim, I think you better get out of Texas before they throw you out. Ralph ------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C50070.CC7AE370 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I figure you have at most 4 years left there, since Bubba plans to = "come=20 home to Texas" when he's all done.  So, here's a quick survey - = will the=20 GWB Library be housed in Texas, Maine, or Connecticutt?  Say, = Ralph, you=20 got the drawings done yet on that blue paper so we can hang it on the=20 wall?
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Jim=20 Follett
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005=20 21:59
Subject: Re: [BP] [BULK] Re: = [BP] music=20 in life

Ralph:
 
 Too many roots ( the = wife's family)=20 to leave any time soon, but I have told her, I'm not retiring here, = plan on=20 going someplace with seasons, and some topography, as for Gershwin, = it's been=20 a very busy week, and it's great music, not one deep banging bass = sound in it.=20
 
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: = Pre-patinated plastic=20 gumby block w/ coin slot=20 [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of=20 [log in to unmask]
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 8:51=20 PM
To:=20 [log in to unmask]
Subject: [BULK] = Re: [BP]=20 music in life
Importance: Low

In a message dated 1/21/2005 6:13:42 P.M. Eastern Standard = Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
Ah who cares? = Now leave=20 me alone, I'm listening to Gershwin.
Jim,
 
I think you better get out of Texas before they throw you = out.
 
Ralph
------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C50070.CC7AE370-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 10:55:46 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Changing the subject line just to be different MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ruth - You didn't change the subject line, so I did it for you. Hope you don't mind. - Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth Barton" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 00:47 Subject: Re: [BP] music in life > Congratulations Jim!!!!! You're the first one, in I don't know how many > posts, to make mention of music under this subject line. > > I think someone should be in charge of changing the subject line weekly, > even if it doesn't match what we're talking about. Just change it to be > different. Ruth > > > > > At 5:11 PM -0600 1/21/05, Jim Follett wrote: > >Ah who cares? Now leave me alone, I'm listening to Gershwin. > -- > Ruth Barton > [log in to unmask] > Dummerston, VT > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 10:56:33 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: an urgent MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005C_01C50071.0958B4C0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005C_01C50071.0958B4C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cheez whiz! ----- Original Message -----=20 From: John Callan=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 00:04 Subject: Re: [BP] an urgent Oh geez.=20 On Jan 21, 2005, at 7:57 PM, [log in to unmask] wrote: In a message dated 1/21/2005 7:32:33 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: jc - =20 I hate to tell you this, but I think Ralph shorted you a couple 0's. =20 - Pam Not 0's, G's. =20 Ralph ------=_NextPart_000_005C_01C50071.0958B4C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Cheez whiz!
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">John Callan=20
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Saturday, January 22, = 2005=20 00:04
Subject: Re: [BP] an = urgent

Oh geez.


On Jan 21, 2005, at 7:57 PM, [log in to unmask] wrote:


In a=20 message dated 1/21/2005 7:32:33 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] = writes:


jc=20 -

 

I = hate=20 to tell you this, but I think Ralph shorted you a couple = 0's.

 

- = Pam

Not=20 0's, G's.

 

Ralph

------=_NextPart_000_005C_01C50071.0958B4C0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 10:57:56 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Music to Dan Gershwin's ears MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit See, she still didn't do it. I bet Ruth that you're trying the old "i'll do a bad job so someone else will do it for me" tactic, aren't you? - Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth Barton" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 12:46 Subject: Re: [BP] music in life > Dan, I knew I was opening myself up for that one. Ruth > > > > At 12:28 AM -0500 1/22/05, Dan Becker wrote: > >On 1/22/05 12:47 AM, "Ruth Barton" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > >> I think someone should be in charge of changing the subject line weekly, > >> even if it doesn't match what we're talking about. Just change it to be > >> different. Ruth > > > >I learned long ago that it was best not to comment on how a job could be > >done better. That was merely issuing myself an invitation for a new job. > > > >Ruth, we deign you Keeper of the Subject Line. > > > >dan that's music to my ears becker > -- > Ruth Barton > [log in to unmask] > Dummerston, VT > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:01:29 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: You say "toe-mah-toe" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cp - time to chastise you... :-). While there are some Bessemers in the world, there wasn't one between Ithaca and Slaterville. There was, however, a Besemer. Note the first would be pronounced "Bes-sa-mer" and the latter would be pronounced "Bees-mer". On the plus side, I'll give you an A for consistency. - ps ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cuyler Page" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 20:43 Subject: Re: [BP] music in life > > I've just been > > reading The Gangly Country Cousin describing Lehigh valley's Auburn > > division. A large trestle spanned the Brooktondale valley and landed near > > the old Follet Mansion in Besemer. I remember my Grandmother Rutherford > > taking the train form Ithaca to NYC. > > My dad used to say the Bessemer line was not the Lehigh Valley RR but a > small RR company, the "Bessemer & ..?... RR" or something like that. We > used to check our clocks each evening when we heard the whistle (steam > engine era) as it crossed some side road along the Slaterville Road on the > other side of Snyder hill precisely at 7 pm each evening heading East. -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 09:56:26 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: You say "toe-mah-toe" In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bestnotbemessinwidher. -jc On Jan 22, 2005, at 10:01 AM, Pamela S. Follett wrote: > cp - > > time to chastise you... :-). While there are some Bessemers in the > world, > there wasn't one between Ithaca and Slaterville. There was, however, a > Besemer. Note the first would be pronounced "Bes-sa-mer" and the > latter > would be pronounced "Bees-mer". On the plus side, I'll give you an A > for > consistency. > > - ps > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cuyler Page" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 20:43 > Subject: Re: [BP] music in life > > >>> I've just been >>> reading The Gangly Country Cousin describing Lehigh valley's Auburn >>> division. A large trestle spanned the Brooktondale valley and landed > near >>> the old Follet Mansion in Besemer. I remember my Grandmother >>> Rutherford >>> taking the train form Ithaca to NYC. >> >> My dad used to say the Bessemer line was not the Lehigh Valley RR but >> a >> small RR company, the "Bessemer & ..?... RR" or something like that. >> We >> used to check our clocks each evening when we heard the whistle (steam >> engine era) as it crossed some side road along the Slaterville Road >> on the >> other side of Snyder hill precisely at 7 pm each evening heading East. > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 14:16:40 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: music in life MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106421400" -------------------------------1106421400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/22/2005 10:36:28 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Didn't he die? It's like sending a letter to Washington. Ralph -------------------------------1106421400 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/22/2005 10:36:28 AM Eastern Standard Time, pfollet= [log in to unmask] writes:
Didn't he die?
It's like sending a letter to Washington.
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1106421400-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 14:17:44 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: GWB Library MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106421464" -------------------------------1106421464 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/22/2005 10:41:26 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Say, Ralph, you got the drawings done yet on that blue paper so we can hang it on the wall? Not checkie, no drawing. Ralph -------------------------------1106421464 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/22/2005 10:41:26 AM Eastern Standard Time, pfollet= [log in to unmask] writes:
Say, Ralph, you got the drawings done= yet on that blue paper so we can hang it on the wall?
Not checkie, no drawing. 
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1106421464-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 13:16:34 -0800 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Cuyler Page <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Heritage Interpretation Services Subject: Different MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Just change it to be different. >Ruth Sounds like you received standard architectural training ! cp -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 14:38:45 -0800 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Cuyler Page <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Heritage Interpretation Services Subject: Re: You say "toe-mah-toe" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> Bestnotbemessinwidher. >> -jc Cheez, your right ! Might be Coffee-nerves! JC in bc -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:49:48 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Different MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106434188" -------------------------------1106434188 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/22/2005 5:42:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > Just change it to be different. >Ruth Sounds like you received standard architectural training ! cp Ruth, The above is not a compliment. I know you better than that, though. Ralph -------------------------------1106434188 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/22/2005 5:42:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>>=20 Just change it to be different.
>Ruth

Sounds like you receive= d=20 standard architectural training !

cp
Ruth,
 
The above is not a compliment.  I know you better t= han=20 that, though.
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1106434188-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 13:22:23 -0800 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Changing the subject line just to be different In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks Pam. I'm really good at delegating responsibility and I now appoint you as my first assistant subject line changer. Congratulations!! Ruth At 10:55 AM -0500 1/22/05, Pamela S. Follett wrote: >Ruth - > >You didn't change the subject line, so I did it for you. Hope you don't >mind. > >- Pam -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Dummerston, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 21:23:42 -0800 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: standard architectural training In-Reply-To: <008e01c500d3$5802b8c0$641ac2cf@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Nope, no architectural training here!! I can't draw a straight line with a ruler and I hate close measurements of any sort. I would NOT be a good architect, but I did design a house once and it is still standing. Ruth At 1:16 PM -0800 1/22/05, Cuyler Page wrote: >> Just change it to be different. >>Ruth > >Sounds like you received standard architectural training ! > >cp -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Dummerston, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:51:24 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: standard architectural training MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106452284" -------------------------------1106452284 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/22/2005 9:54:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: I did design a house once and it is still standing. Ruth Then you did a pretty damn good job, straight lines or no. Ralph. -------------------------------1106452284 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/22/2005 9:54:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>I did=20 design a house once and it is still standing. =20 Ruth
Then you did a pretty damn good job, straight lines or no.
 
Ralph. 
-------------------------------1106452284-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:54:09 -0800 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Cuyler Page <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Heritage Interpretation Services Subject: Re: standard architectural training MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0025_01C500DD.AA0D54E0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C500DD.AA0D54E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Nope, no architectural training here!! I can't draw a straight line = with a > ruler and I hate close measurements of any sort. I would NOT be a = good > architect, but I did design a house once and it is still standing. = Ruth Well, there you go, Ruth. With the will to do something different just = for the sake of it, and the lack of ability at straight lines, you could = give Frank Gehry a run for his fame and money. At least your house is = still standing. That makes you an engineer too. Leonardo didn't have = a licence either. Re Gehry: The Vancouver Art Gallery just created a major exhibit = called Massive Change, assembled under the umbrella of Bruce Mau. One = display really made me want to vomit. It featured Gehry's large German = office building project, with designs for office towers all bent out of = shape like a bad dream. The display piece in the exhibit was about how = successful the new architects are at creating new ways of doing things, = and featured an endless ribbon of rough mindless little cardboard models = showing how Ghery's staff were trying so hard to fit standard economical = rectangular factory-built catalogue item windows into the bendy twisty = 3-dimensional facade nightmare of the proposed buildings, and how their = special computer programs were almost succeeding at putting square pegs = into oblong holes. The display emphasized how difficult it was to fit = the catalogue style windows into the creations of warped genius, but how = much money could be saved if only they could manage to use the = ready-made products for office windows. They did not show how much = money was being spent trying to find some way to make a fit. cp in bc ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C500DD.AA0D54E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
 
> Nope, no architectural = training=20 here!!  I can't draw a straight line with a
> ruler and I = hate close=20 measurements of any sort.  I would NOT be a good
> architect, = but I=20 did design a house once and it is still standing.  = Ruth

Well, there you go, = Ruth.   With the=20 will to do something different just for the sake of it, and the lack of = ability=20 at straight lines, you could give Frank Gehry a run for his fame=20 and money.   At least your house is still = standing.  =20 That makes you an engineer too.   Leonardo didn't have a = licence=20 either.
 
Re Gehry:   The Vancouver Art = Gallery=20 just created a major exhibit called Massive Change, assembled = under=20 the umbrella of Bruce Mau.   One display really made me want = to=20 vomit.   It featured Gehry's large German office building = project,=20 with designs for office towers all bent out of shape like a bad=20 dream.   The display piece in the exhibit was about how=20 successful the new architects are at creating new ways of doing things, = and=20 featured an endless ribbon of rough mindless little cardboard = models=20 showing how Ghery's staff were trying so hard to fit standard economical = rectangular factory-built catalogue item windows into the bendy = twisty=20 3-dimensional facade nightmare of  the proposed buildings, and = how=20 their special computer programs were almost succeeding at putting square = pegs=20 into oblong holes.   The display emphasized how difficult = it was=20 to fit the catalogue style windows into the creations of=20 warped genius, but how much money could be saved if only they could = manage=20 to use the ready-made products for office windows.   They did = not show=20 how much money was being spent trying to find some way to make a=20 fit.
 
cp in bc
 
 

------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C500DD.AA0D54E0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 10:48:03 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Bessemer mummy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106495283" -------------------------------1106495283 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Did you know there is a Bessemer mummy ? That's Bessemer Alabama; home of Bessemer steel.....the mummy.....a female used to be the road side attraction as in "come see the mummy sign seen from the highway.....it turns out the ol gal who got tired of getting a beating by her old man poisoned him ......the Sheriff and Deputy came to arrest her and she dispatched them with a pistol......on the run this 1840's Thelma made it to the county line before a posse shot her down...... circumstance delayed her burial ; and by spring it was discovered she had dried so she was mummified ...purchased by a antebellum showman she made the county and minstrel fairs along side the Medusa girl who bared all with a shimmy and shake .....and mule man who had some deformity making his ears and jaw mule like.....this exhibit survived "da wa " and carried on into the 20 th cent housing itself in the Bessemer depot (until it was restored ) the town fathers wanting a better image ,retired her ...when asked what I thought they should do ...I suggested she may be Americas oldest victim of Domestic violence and an unjust legal system ; Perhaps selling her to NOW ( national organization for women) might breath new life in her and she could takr to the road again after some make up and basic maintenance " a year later no word....Il get back when I find out more PY -------------------------------1106495283 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Did you know there is a Bessemer mummy ?  That's Bessemer Alabama;= =20 home of Bessemer steel.....the mummy.....a female used to be the road side=20 attraction as in "come see the mummy sign  seen from the highway.....it= =20 turns out the ol gal who got tired of getting a beating by her old man poiso= ned=20 him ......the Sheriff and Deputy came to arrest her and she dispat= ched=20 them with a pistol......on the run this 1840's Thelma made it to the county=20= line=20 before a posse shot her down......
 
circumstance delayed her burial ; and by spring it was discovered she h= ad=20 dried so she was mummified ...purchased by a antebellum showman she mad= e=20 the county and minstrel fairs
along side the Medusa girl who bared all with a shimmy and sh= ake=20 .....and mule man  who had some deformity making his ears and jaw mule=20 like.....this exhibit survived "da wa " and carried on into t= he=20 20 th cent housing itself in the Bessemer depot (until it was restored ) the= =20 town fathers wanting a better image ,retired her ...when asked what  I=20 thought they should do  ...I suggested she may be Americas oldest victi= m of=20 Domestic violence
 and an unjust legal system ;
Perhaps selling  her to NOW ( national organization for women) mig= ht=20 breath new life in her and she could takr to the road again after some make=20= up=20 and basic maintenance "
a year later no word....Il get back when I find out more=20 PY
 -------------------------------1106495283-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:10:52 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Changing the subject line just to be different MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ok, I was looking for a PAYING job, not just any old job. If I wanted just any old job, I'd sell coffee. I'll be waiting by Ralph's mailbox. - Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth Barton" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 16:22 Subject: Re: [BP] Changing the subject line just to be different > Thanks Pam. I'm really good at delegating responsibility and I now appoint > you as my first assistant subject line changer. Congratulations!! Ruth > > > > > At 10:55 AM -0500 1/22/05, Pamela S. Follett wrote: > >Ruth - > > > >You didn't change the subject line, so I did it for you. Hope you don't > >mind. > > > >- Pam > -- > Ruth Barton > [log in to unmask] > Dummerston, VT > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:54:24 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: standard architectural training MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106499264" -------------------------------1106499264 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/23/2005 2:57:54 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Re Gehry: The Vancouver Art Gallery just created a major exhibit called Massive Change, assembled under the umbrella of Bruce Mau. One display really made me want to vomit. It featured Gehry's large German office building project, with designs for office towers all bent out of shape like a bad dream. The display piece in the exhibit was about how successful the new architects are at creating new ways of doing things, and featured an endless ribbon of rough mindless little cardboard models showing how Ghery's staff were trying so hard to fit standard economical rectangular factory-built catalogue item windows into the bendy twisty 3-dimensional facade nightmare of the proposed buildings, and how their special computer programs were almost succeeding at putting square pegs into oblong holes. The display emphasized how difficult it was to fit the catalogue style windows into the creations of warped genius, but how much money could be saved if only they could manage to use the ready-made products for office windows. They did not show how much money was being spent trying to find some way to make a fit. Bravo, Cuyler! All this weird twisty stuff has always struck me as willful avoidance of doing things in any normal way, all in the name of novelty and effect, with no evident concern for anything but the designer's (imagineers may be a better word; I won't call them architects) urge, like that of a caged gorilla, to fling shit at the public and those who feed them. Mr. Creative -------------------------------1106499264 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/23/2005 2:57:54 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>
Re Gehry:   The Vancouver Art G= allery=20 just created a major exhibit called Massive Change, assembled un= der=20 the umbrella of Bruce Mau.   One display really made me want to=20 vomit.   It featured Gehry's large German office building projec= t,=20 with designs for office towers all bent out of shape like a bad=20 dream.   The display piece in the exhibit was about how=20 successful the new architects are at creating new ways of doing things, an= d=20 featured an endless ribbon of rough mindless little cardboard models=20 showing how Ghery's staff were trying so hard to fit standard economical=20 rectangular factory-built catalogue item windows into the bendy twist= y=20 3-dimensional facade nightmare of  the proposed buildings, and h= ow=20 their special computer programs were almost succeeding at putting square p= egs=20 into oblong holes.   The display emphasized how difficult i= t=20 was to fit the catalogue style windows into the creations of=20 warped genius, but how much money could be saved if only they could=20 manage to use the ready-made products for office windows.   They= did=20 not show how much money was being spent trying to find some way to make a=20 fit.
Bravo, Cuyler! 
 
All this weird twisty stuff has always struck me as willful avoidance o= f=20 doing things in any normal way, all in the name of novelty and effect, with=20= no=20 evident concern for anything but the designer's (imagineers may be a be= tter=20 word; I won't call them architects) urge, like that of a caged gorilla, to f= ling=20 shit at the public and those who feed them.
 
Mr. Creative
 
 
-------------------------------1106499264-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:58:41 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Changing the subject line just to be different MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106499521" -------------------------------1106499521 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/23/2005 10:57:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Ok, I was looking for a PAYING job, not just any old job. If I wanted just any old job, I'd sell coffee. I'll be waiting by Ralph's mailbox. What makes you think waiting by my mailbox is a paying job? Have I been unclear about this? besides, it's my job, and if you want $350,000, you'll have to get it yourself. And the best way I know of to that is to marry me, and then ask for a divorce. Ralph -------------------------------1106499521 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/23/2005 10:57:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>Ok, I=20 was looking for a PAYING job, not just any old job.  If I wanted=20 just
any old job, I'd sell coffee.  I'll be waiting by Ralph's=20 mailbox.
What makes you think waiting by my mailbox is a paying job?  Have=20= I=20 been unclear about this?  besides, it's my job, and if you want $350,00= 0,=20 you'll have to get it yourself. 
 
And the best way I know of  to that is to marry me, and then=20= ask=20 for a divorce. 
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1106499521-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 08:06:10 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Changing the subject line just to be different MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0034_01C501EB.90A4D0F0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C501EB.90A4D0F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message -----=20 From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 11:58 Subject: Re: [BP] Changing the subject line just to be different In a message dated 1/23/2005 10:57:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: Ok, I was looking for a PAYING job, not just any old job. If I = wanted just any old job, I'd sell coffee. I'll be waiting by Ralph's mailbox. What makes you think waiting by my mailbox is a paying job? Have I = been unclear about this? besides, it's my job, and if you want = $350,000, you'll have to get it yourself. I'm working on that, and if I = stand by your mailbox, I figured I'm earning whatever wage comes in. If = you're waiting, too, then we can split it 50/50. And the best way I know of to that is to marry me, and then ask for a = divorce. What are you, the Donald Trump of BP? Haven't you ever heard = of pre-nups? Ralph Pam ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C501EB.90A4D0F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]=20
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005=20 11:58
Subject: Re: [BP] Changing the = subject=20 line just to be different

In a message dated 1/23/2005 10:57:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask]=20 writes:
Ok, I=20 was looking for a PAYING job, not just any old job.  If I = wanted=20 just
any old job, I'd sell coffee.  I'll be waiting by = Ralph's=20 mailbox.
What makes you think waiting by my mailbox is a paying job?  = Have I=20 been unclear about this?  besides, it's my job, and if you want = $350,000,=20 you'll have to get it yourself. I'm working on that, and = if I=20 stand by your mailbox, I figured I'm earning whatever wage comes = in.  If=20 you're waiting, too, then we can split it 50/50.
 
And the best way I know of  to that is to marry me, and = then=20 ask for a divorce. What are you, the Donald Trump of = BP? =20 Haven't you ever heard of pre-nups?
 
Ralph = Pam
------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C501EB.90A4D0F0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 10:01:51 -0500 Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: ddiaz <[log in to unmask]> Subject: new subject In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020303040705020004000007" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020303040705020004000007 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A year or so ago I asked for referrals for someone to F & I Snow guards on a metal roof in Bronx, NYC- anyone remember this and who they might have recommended -- J.A. Drew Diaz EDGE Development Construction Suite 1205 150 W 28th St NY, NY 10001 t 212.741.7348 f 212.741.7423 c 917.971.1577 e [log in to unmask] w edgedc.com --------------020303040705020004000007 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A year or so ago I asked for referrals for someone to F & I Snow guards on a metal roof in Bronx, NYC-
anyone remember this and who they might have recommended
--
J

J.A. Drew Diaz

EDGE Development Construction

Suite 1205

150 W 28th St

NY, NY 10001

 

t 212.741.7348

f 212.741.7423

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--------------020303040705020004000007-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 15:53:36 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: GWB Library In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0051_01C5022C.DD47BD50" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0051_01C5022C.DD47BD50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My monies on Arlington, Texas, next to the Rangers stadium, what with Six Flags on the other side, it will be a natural draw. -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Pamela S. Follett Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 9:55 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [BP] GWB Library I figure you have at most 4 years left there, since Bubba plans to "come home to Texas" when he's all done. So, here's a quick survey - will the GWB Library be housed in Texas, Maine, or Connecticutt? Say, Ralph, you got the drawings done yet on that blue paper so we can hang it on the wall? ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Follett To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 21:59 Subject: Re: [BP] [BULK] Re: [BP] music in life Ralph: Too many roots ( the wife's family) to leave any time soon, but I have told her, I'm not retiring here, plan on going someplace with seasons, and some topography, as for Gershwin, it's been a very busy week, and it's great music, not one deep banging bass sound in it. Jim -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of [log in to unmask] Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 8:51 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [BULK] Re: [BP] music in life Importance: Low In a message dated 1/21/2005 6:13:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Ah who cares? Now leave me alone, I'm listening to Gershwin. Jim, I think you better get out of Texas before they throw you out. Ralph ------=_NextPart_000_0051_01C5022C.DD47BD50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
My monies on Arlington, Texas, = next to the=20 Rangers stadium, what with Six Flags on the other side, it will be a = natural=20 draw.
-----Original Message-----
From: Pre-patinated = plastic=20 gumby block w/ coin slot=20 [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of = Pamela=20 S. Follett
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 9:55 = AM
To:=20 [log in to unmask]
Subject: [BP] GWB=20 Library

I figure you have at most 4 years left there, since Bubba plans = to "come=20 home to Texas" when he's all done.  So, here's a quick survey - = will the=20 GWB Library be housed in Texas, Maine, or Connecticutt?  Say, = Ralph, you=20 got the drawings done yet on that blue paper so we can hang it on the=20 wall?
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Jim=20 Follett
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Friday, January 21, = 2005=20 21:59
Subject: Re: [BP] [BULK] Re: = [BP] music=20 in life

Ralph:
 
 Too many roots ( the = wife's=20 family) to leave any time soon, but I have told her, I'm not = retiring here,=20 plan on going someplace with seasons, and some topography, as for = Gershwin,=20 it's been a very busy week, and it's great music, not one deep = banging bass=20 sound in it.
 
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: = Pre-patinated=20 plastic gumby block w/ coin slot=20 [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of=20 [log in to unmask]
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 8:51=20 PM
To:=20 [log in to unmask]
Subject: = [BULK] Re:=20 [BP] music in life
Importance: = Low

In a message dated 1/21/2005 6:13:42 P.M. Eastern Standard = Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
Ah who = cares? Now leave=20 me alone, I'm listening to = Gershwin.
Jim,
 
I think you better get out of Texas before they throw you = out.
 
=
Ralph
------=_NextPart_000_0051_01C5022C.DD47BD50-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 17:00:35 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Age Test MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT This was developed as an age test by an R&D department at Harvard University. Take your time and see if you can read each line aloud without a mistake. The average person over 40 years of age can't do it! 1. This is this cat 2. This is is cat 3. This is how cat 4. This is to cat 5. This is keep cat 6. This is an cat 7. This is old cat 8. This is person cat 9. This is busy cat 10. This is for cat 11. This is forty cat 12. This is seconds cat Now go back and read the third word in each line from the top down. -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 17:02:39 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Jerry Williams MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Jerry Williams of Little Rock, Arkansas, was awarded $14,500 and medical expenses after being bitten on the buttocks by his next door neighbor's beagle. The beagle was on a chain in its owner's fenced yard. The award was less than sought because the jury felt the dog might have been just a little provoked at the time by Mr. Williams who had climbed over the fence into the yard and was shooting it repeatedly with a pellet gun. -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 17:12:29 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Why can't this be a classy listserv, like that "New Discourse"???? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106604749" -------------------------------1106604749 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit , [log in to unmask] writes: who had climbed over the fence into the yard and was shooting it repeatedly with a pellet gun. Thou shalt not pellet thy neighbor's beagle. sign me, old testament -------------------------------1106604749 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
who had climbed over the fence into the yard a= nd was shooting it repeatedly with a pellet gun.
Thou shalt not pellet thy neighbor's bea= gle.      sign me,  old testament -------------------------------1106604749-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:12:43 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Jerry Williams In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is why I don't own a hand-gun. I think I could be provoked into using it by this ass-hole. How's the Beagle? Did he/she get a nice settlement too? -jc On Jan 24, 2005, at 4:02 PM, Gabriel Orgrease wrote: > Jerry Williams of Little Rock, Arkansas, was awarded > $14,500 and medical expenses after being bitten on the > buttocks by his next door neighbor's beagle. The > beagle was on a chain in its owner's fenced yard. The > award was less than sought because the jury felt the > dog might have been just a little provoked at the time > by Mr. Williams who had climbed over the fence into > the yard and was shooting it repeatedly with a pellet > gun. > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 17:25:59 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Bruce Marcham <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Jerry Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable According to the "official stella awards" site this story is fabricated. http://urbanlegends.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=3Dhttp://www.st= ellaawards.com/2003.html =20 The "real Stella Awards of 2003": http://www.stellaawards.com/2003.html Keepin' it real... Bruce=20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of John Callan Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 5:13 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BP] Jerry Williams This is why I don't own a hand-gun. I think I could be provoked into using it by this ass-hole. How's the Beagle? Did he/she get a nice settlement too? -jc On Jan 24, 2005, at 4:02 PM, Gabriel Orgrease wrote: > Jerry Williams of Little Rock, Arkansas, was awarded > $14,500 and medical expenses after being bitten on the > buttocks by his next door neighbor's beagle. The > beagle was on a chain in its owner's fenced yard. The > award was less than sought because the jury felt the > dog might have been just a little provoked at the time > by Mr. Williams who had climbed over the fence into > the yard and was shooting it repeatedly with a pellet > gun. > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 17:30:25 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Jerry Williamsdog MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106605825" -------------------------------1106605825 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/24/2005 5:13:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: This is why I don't own a hand-gun. I think I could be provoked into using it by this ass-hole. How's the Beagle? Right. A long gun would give better penetrating power, beagle would be dead. Damages would be limited to loss of companionship to "owner", who would have to prove real friendship, plus proof of purchase. Also, if beagle important companion, why locked in back yard, alone? Did owner actually torture dog, pellet would be a mercy killing? Also possible "beagle" was actually Satan, in disguise. Or space alien. Possible also muslim extremist, "beagle" appears to be code for attack on USA, "B[lack] Eagle". Can't be too careful these days. c -------------------------------1106605825 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/24/2005 5:13:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, johncall= [log in to unmask] writes:
This is why I don't own a hand-gun.  I th= ink I could be provoked into
using it by this ass-hole.  How's the B= eagle?
Right.  A long gun would give bette= r penetrating power, beagle would be dead.  Damages would be limited to= loss of companionship to "owner", who would have to prove real friendship,=20= plus proof of purchase.  Also, if beagle important companion, why=20= locked in back yard, alone?  Did owner actually torture dog, pellet wou= ld be a mercy killing?   Also possible "beagle" was actually=20= Satan, in disguise.  Or space alien.    Possible also mu= slim extremist, "beagle" appears to be code for attack on USA, "B[lack] Eagl= e".    Can't be too careful these days.     c=20=  
-------------------------------1106605825-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 17:43:29 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Besemer & Lehigh In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Pamela S. Follett wrote: >Anyway, I always thought the train stop had crossed Besemer Hill Road, which >would have been north of the manor house, wouldn't it? Getting old really >sucks when there's too much other stuff cluttering the brain. > The map in A History of the Lehigh Valley Railroad, The Route of the Black Diamond by Robert F. Archer shows that "Besemers" was a stop on the line that went from Elmira to aWhite Church to Brooktondale to East Ithaca to Freeville to Cortland then on to Oneida Lake ending at Camden. Directly north of Rt. 79 and to the west of Besemer Hill Rd. was in our childhood the remnants of the water tank... a ruin of early concrete walls. There was no wood tank structure then. The crick that supplied the water ran to the east of Besemer Hill Rd. where it travelled south, then made a turn to the west then eventually connected to Six Mile Creek. I suspect that there was a small station at Besemers. I remember once someone telling me that they not only remembered the station, but had once been on a train to it... it may have been Doctor Mary that told me this. Doctor Mary was our family Doctor and I went to her from like 5th grade up into the early 20's of age. She was one of the first women to graduate from Cornell as a doctor and she subsequently settled in Brooktondale in a house built very near, directly east of the trestle. On the south side of Six Mile Creek there were the remnants of the gray limestone abutements. To the north there was a road cut and the ditch to the north of the road was always a problem for quicksand. Nobody has to believe me but one night returning from scouts in Brooktondale to home in Besemer I saw this really incredibly large UFO float out from above the hill where the trestle would have ended. By the time we were alive the rails had long since been removed, though in some places you could still find the ties. I had walked many times the railbed in the area between Besemer & Brooktondale, and up to White Church road and beyond to the south, I also walked a few times the distance from Besemer to Ithaca (7-8 miles). It was always a pleasant walk, plenty of interesting plants to look at. I was very much into looking at wild plants. This was decades before people got into makgn gree trails of abandoned railbeds. I've seen photos of the trestle and it was impressive. There once was this place along Rt. 79 between Slaterville Springs and Richford where there was an artesian spring that people would stop at to get water and I remember one time we were going that way and they had a large iron bar cage with a brown bear in it. I also remember the mill building in Brooktondale on the south side of the falls. My stepfather would take me down there and we would stand around the coal fired pot-belly stove while he talked w/ the guys there. I was kind of pissed when they tore it down... and this was way before I ever thought about histo presto. A friend of mine in scouts drowned in the falls pool while rescuing two girls. The two girls survived. I'll never forget my friend, he was the guy that we all of us kids looked up to as the best marksman in scouts for the entire county -- he was always leading us by his example. They were a hunting & fishing family working close to the local land. His father worked the county road crew and got some sort of posthumous medal for his son's bravery. ][< -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 17:48:26 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: You say "toe-mah-toe" In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Pamela S. Follett wrote: >cp - > >time to chastise you... :-). While there are some Bessemers > It began as Besemers, because there were a bunch of them. At least two separate houses... a colony of Besemers. The one Besemer owned the crushed stone aggregate pit in Lansing near to the salt mine. I was in love w/ Virginia Besemer for a few years... but then 4th grade happened or something. I suspect it was later changed to Besemer cause of the influx of others than Besemers and a trend towards nudeiscourse modernism. ][< -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 17:54:04 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Becker, Dan" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Jerry Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Snopes is also a good resource for this stuff: http://www.snopes.com/legal/lawsuits.asp D. > -----Original Message----- > From: Bruce Marcham [mailto:[log in to unmask]]=20 > Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 5:26 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [BP] Jerry Williams >=20 >=20 > According to the "official stella awards" site this story is=20 > fabricated.=20 > http://urbanlegends.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=3Dhttp ://www.stellaawards.com/2003.html > =20 > The "real Stella Awards of 2003":=20 > http://www.stellaawards.com/2003.html >=20 >=20 > Keepin' it real... >=20 > Bruce=20 > =20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot=20 [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of John Callan Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 5:13 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BP] Jerry Williams This is why I don't own a hand-gun. I think I could be provoked into using it by this ass-hole. How's the Beagle? Did he/she get a nice settlement too? -jc On Jan 24, 2005, at 4:02 PM, Gabriel Orgrease wrote: > Jerry Williams of Little Rock, Arkansas, was awarded > $14,500 and medical expenses after being bitten on the buttocks by his > next door neighbor's beagle. The beagle was on a chain in its owner's=20 > fenced yard. The award was less than sought because the jury felt the > dog might have been just a little provoked at the time > by Mr. Williams who had climbed over the fence into > the yard and was shooting it repeatedly with a pellet > gun. > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the=20 > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to:=20 > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 17:56:30 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Jerry Williams Telethon MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106607390" -------------------------------1106607390 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message 5:54:33 PM Eastern Regulatory Time, [log in to unmask] writes: According to the "official stella awards" site this story is fabricated. doesn't make my legal analysis any less trenchant. yrs perry m. -------------------------------1106607390 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message 5:54:33 PM Eastern Regulatory Time, [log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask] wr= ites:
According to the "official stella awards" site= this story is  fabricated.
doesn't make my legal analysis any less=20= trenchant.   yrs  perry m.
-------------------------------1106607390-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 17:59:04 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Becker, Dan" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Jerry Williams Telethon MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C50268.4D1AB8AE" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C50268.4D1AB8AE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey, watch your attributions, bub!=20 =20 You mean to be sticking your pin into the pompous academic Marcham, not the bureaucratic Becker. =20 dan perry mason was fabricated too becker -----Original Message----- From: Met History [mailto:[log in to unmask]]=20 Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 5:57 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [BP] Jerry Williams Telethon In a message 5:54:33 PM Eastern Regulatory Time, [log in to unmask] writes: According to the "official stella awards" site this story is fabricated.=20 doesn't make my legal analysis any less trenchant. yrs perry m.=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C50268.4D1AB8AE Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
Hey, watch your attributions, bub! =
 
You mean to be sticking your pin = into the=20 pompous academic Marcham, not the bureaucratic Becker.
 
dan perry mason was fabricated too = becker
-----Original Message-----
From: Met = History=20 [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 = 5:57=20 PM
To: = [log in to unmask]
Subject:=20 [BP] Jerry Williams Telethon

In a message 5:54:33 PM Eastern Regulatory Time, Dan.Becker@ILoveAluminu= mSiding.US=20 writes:
According to the "official stella awards" site this = story=20 is  fabricated.
doesn't make my legal analysis any = less=20 trenchant.   yrs  perry m.=20
------_=_NextPart_001_01C50268.4D1AB8AE-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 18:03:06 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Jerry Williams In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Aw, c'mon Bruce... should REAL ever get in the way of a good story! ;-) I was really not happy when the vet showed us the x-rays that D-dog, everyone's friend (never bit no architects), just after we had him put down, had been walking around w/ a bunch of pellets in him. It was not the reason for his demise. ][< Bruce Marcham wrote: >According to the "official stella awards" site this story is fabricated. >Keepin' it real... > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 18:49:19 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: You say "toe-mah-toe" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ][[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 17:48 Subject: Re: [BP] You say "toe-mah-toe" > Pamela S. Follett wrote: > > >cp - > > > >time to chastise you... :-). While there are some Bessemers > > > It began as Besemers, because there were a bunch of them. > At least two separate houses... a colony of Besemers. > The one Besemer owned the crushed stone aggregate pit in Lansing near to > the salt mine. > I was in love w/ Virginia Besemer for a few years... but then 4th grade > happened or something. > I suspect it was later changed to Besemer cause of the influx of others > than Besemers and a trend towards nudeiscourse modernism. > > ][< > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 19:37:42 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: You say "toe-mah-toe" In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Pamela S. Follett wrote: >][plural. Jim & I will have to get you straightened out next time we're all >in the same state. > > Standing in Atlanta airport yesterday wondering how to get home in one day instead of two I almost did select Rochester. As to getting me straightened out I think everyone on BP will agree that it is not a good bet. ][< -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 21:16:58 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Changing the subject line just to be different MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106619418" -------------------------------1106619418 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/24/2005 7:52:52 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: What makes you think waiting by my mailbox is a paying job? Have I been unclear about this? besides, it's my job, and if you want $350,000, you'll have to get it yourself. I'm working on that, and if I stand by your mailbox, I figured I'm earning whatever wage comes in. If you're waiting, too, then we can split it 50/50. Well, I guess that's fair. I'll be standing by the mailbox, waiting for you. Take the Lakeland bus from Gate 401 at the Port Authority. Or talk to Ken about a ride. And the best way I know of to that is to marry me, and then ask for a divorce. What are you, the Donald Trump of BP? Haven't you ever heard of pre-nups? Yeah, I heard of 'em alright, but didn't think I'd need one for myself. Probably could've gotten it for nothing, as did ex-Cousin-in-law Dan the Asshole, when he consulted my ex-father-in-law in regard to this exact matter in anticipation of marrying double-ex-cousin-in-law Karen. Glad you asked? 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In a message dated 1/24/2005 7:52:52 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
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What makes you think waiting by my mailbox is a paying job?  Hav= e I=20 been unclear about this?  besides, it's my job, and if you want $350,= 000,=20 you'll have to get it yourself. I'm working on that, and if I= =20 stand by your mailbox, I figured I'm earning whatever wage comes in. = If=20 you're waiting, too, then we can split it 50/50. Well, I guess that's=20 fair. I'll be standing by the mailbox, waiting for you.  Take the=20 Lakeland bus from Gate 401 at the Port Authority.  Or talk to Ken abo= ut a=20 ride.
 
And the best way I know of  to that is to marry me, and the= n=20 ask for a divorce. What are you, the Donald Trump of BP? = ;=20 Haven't you ever heard of pre-nups? Yeah, I heard of 'em alright, but=20 didn't think I'd need one for myself.  Probably could've gotten it fo= r=20 nothing, as did ex-Cousin-in-law Dan the Asshole, when he consulted m= y=20 ex-father-in-law in regard to this exact matter in anticipation of marryin= g=20 double-ex-cousin-in-law Karen. Glad you asked?
 
Ralph Pam Ralph
 
-------------------------------1106619418-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 21:34:29 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Jerry Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106620468" -------------------------------1106620468 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/24/2005 5:02:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Jerry Williams of Little Rock, Arkansas, was awarded $14,500 and medical expenses after being bitten on the buttocks by his next door neighbor's beagle. The beagle was on a chain in its owner's fenced yard. The award was less than sought because the jury felt the dog might have been just a little provoked at the time by Mr. Williams who had climbed over the fence into the yard and was shooting it repeatedly with a pellet gun. So what was wrong with the Rottweiler? SHE was provoked. Ralph -------------------------------1106620468 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/24/2005 5:02:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>Jerry=20 Williams of Little Rock, Arkansas, was awarded
$14,500 and medical expe= nses=20 after being bitten on the
buttocks by his next door neighbor's beagle.=20 The
beagle was on a chain in its owner's fenced yard. The
award was=20= less=20 than sought because the jury felt the
dog might have been just a little= =20 provoked at the time
by Mr. Williams who had climbed over the fence=20 into
the yard and was shooting it repeatedly with a=20 pellet
gun.

So what was wrong with the Rottweiler?  SHE was provoked.
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1106620468-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 21:36:26 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Jerry Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106620585" -------------------------------1106620585 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/24/2005 5:54:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Snopes is also a good resource for this stuff: Flem Snopes, or another of the Snopeses? Sign me, I Remember English -------------------------------1106620585 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/24/2005 5:54:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>Snopes=20 is also a good resource for this stuff:
Flem Snopes, or another of the Snopeses?
 
Sign me,
 
I Remember English
-------------------------------1106620585-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 21:39:19 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Jerry Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106620758" -------------------------------1106620758 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/24/2005 6:04:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: I was really not happy when the vet showed us the x-rays that D-dog, everyone's friend (never bit no architects), just after we had him put down, had been walking around w/ a bunch of pellets in him. It was not the reason for his demise. Unlike Goddam Mudslide. Ralph -------------------------------1106620758 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/24/2005 6:04:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>I was=20 really not happy when the vet showed us the x-rays that D-dog,
everyone= 's=20 friend (never bit no architects), just after we had him put
down, had b= een=20 walking around w/ a bunch of pellets in him.
It was not the reason for=20= his=20 demise.

Unlike Goddam Mudslide.
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1106620758-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 22:32:36 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Swept wings MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106623956" -------------------------------1106623956 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en =20 What -a -burger and a dry cleaning chain from the 60's have the cool swept=20 winged roof=E2=80=A6but only "down hair" =20 Im not sure if its a yankee thing =20 because swept wings could not take the weight of the snow ;=20 Im curious about the history of the poured swept wing portico =20 Is it a Mies thing =20 or a Miami Boca Hotel (from the 40's) =20 or eye- ty ala..... JFK airport .........=20 Swept winged Porticos =20 where was the first ?.and why no more .=20 Speaking of swept wings =20 I took the only stool available in the Waffle house yesterday and side le= d=20 up =20 With a Times Picayune and a cuppa joe =20 . On my left was a great big bother who hailed from the hood wearing flash= y=20 pin stripes (bails bondsman ) and =20 talking trash to Estelle his=E2=80=9D home girl=E2=80=9D with the gold toot= h , Estelle is=20 the short order cook who shakes booty and can make eggs dance 90 to nothi= ng =20 while flipping Waffles ,toast , jokes , and hash browns with all the=20 panache of a card shark on on 14 th street =20 On my right was a sleek modeled Mom (20's something) in casual silk slacks=20= =20 lecturing her poor son (10) like Joe Friday grills a stick-up artist ove= r =E2=80=9C the facts =E2=80=9Che should have learned had he been paying attention in s= chool.=20 Sonny boy was suffering ; Momma who sports a slash of red to the lips was=20 bearing down on him =E2=80=A6.so it wasn=E2=80=99t the message it was the m= edium that had his=20 poor face contorted as if this was day 2 in potty training=20 ; I ordered a large tomato juice and a glass of ice along with some soft =20 boils and rye toast and settled in for some blood letting .=20 .=20 Mom : =E2=80=9C I cannot believe this ----Blanky =E2=80=93blank --public s= chool system=20 ...."You don't know what a- Fact- is??? she stirred her coffee and bore in=20= on=20 sonny, peering over the top of her Japanese designer sunglasses while=20 dangling a soft painted toe foot with those high heeled Italian swept win= gs that =20 double for speed boats .=20 Meanwhile on my left Estelle and Bubba were having a time of it ; cracking=20 jokes and punching the air a lot of =E2=80=9CSho nuffs=E2=80=9D=20 Winks and wetting of the lips as they verbally engaged in private jokes=20 and sexual innuendo that had the whole breakfast bar in tears.=20 Mom: =E2=80=9C A fact is something , a concept or a formula and outcome th= at can be=20 proven true=E2=80=9D =E2=80=9CIs the sky blue?=20 Son: Yes =20 Mom: (tersely and flashing teeth) No its not ,it only appears blue ..sky =20 is blue is not a fact =20 Son is seen squirming =20 On my left =20 Estelle to the Bondsman : =20 Estelle : ,,=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6ain=E2=80=99t it a fact=E2=80=A6. Baldy=E2= =80=A6=E2=80=A6that when youse wuz sweet talking=20 me ;=E2=80=A6.you wuz seeing dat floozy=20 Bondsman : dat wasn=E2=80=99t no floozy =E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6..=20 Estelle : Turning her back to flip some eggs =E2=80=9CWell who was it den= ?=E2=80=9D=20 Bondsman : Fact wuz dat wuz my wife =E2=80=A6errr my ex wife =E2=80=A6..=20 The uproar interrupted Moms lecture making her lean over with her son to=20 ask what happened =E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=20 Michael: (amid laughter ) =E2=80=A6.Facts of life=E2=80=A6. Disagreements o= ver ..Facts of=20 life=E2=80=A6..=20 -------------------------------1106623956 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en

What -a -burger=20= and a=20 dry cleaning chain from the 60's have the cool swept winged roof=E2=80=A6but= only  "down hair"

 

Im not sure if <= SPAN=20 style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> its a yankee thing

because swept=20 wings  could not take the weight of the snow ;

 

Im curious about= the=20 history of the poured swept wing portico

Is it a Mie= s=20 thing

 

or a Miami=20= Boca=20 Hotel (from the 40's) 

 or eye- ty=  =20 ala..... JFK airport  .........

Swept winged=20 Porticos   

where was the fi= rst=20 ?.and why no more .

 

 

Speaking of swep= t=20 wings

 

I took the only=20 stool available  in the W= affle=20 house yesterday and side led up

With  a Times Picayune and   a cuppa joe

. On my left was= a=20 great big bother who hailed from the hood  wearing flashy pin stripes  (bails bondsman ) and=20

talking trash to= =20 Estelle his=E2=80=9D home girl=E2=80=9D with the gold tooth , Estelle is the=  short order cook who  shakes booty and can make eggs danc= e=20  90 to nothing  while flipping Waffles ,toast ,  jokes , and hash browns   with all the panache  of a card shark on  on 14 th street  

On my right was=20= a=20 sleek modeled Mom (20's something) in casual silk slacks  lecturing her poor son (10)  like  Joe Friday  grills a stick-up artist  over =E2=80=9Cthe facts =E2=80=9Che= should have learned=20 had he been paying attention in school.

Sonny boy  was suffering ; Momma who sports a=20= slash=20 of red to the lips was bearing down on him =E2=80=A6.so it wasn=E2=80=99t th= e message it was the=20 medium that had his poor face contorted as if this was day 2  in potty training

 ; I ordered a large tomato juice an= d a=20 glass of ice  along with some=20= soft=20 boils and rye toast and settled in for some blood letting=20 .

 .

 

Mom : =E2= =80=9C I cannot=20 believe this ----Blanky =E2=80=93blank  --public school system ...."You don= 't=20 know what a- Fact- is??? she stirred her coffee and bore in on sonny, peerin= g=20 over the top  of  her Japanese designer sunglasses  while dangling a  soft painted toe  foot with those  high heeled Italian swept wings tha= t=20 double for speed boats .

 

 Meanwhile=20= on my=20 left Estelle and Bubba were having a time of it ; cracking jokes  and punching the air  a lot of =E2=80=9CSho=20 nuffs=E2=80=9D

Winks and wettin= g of=20 the lips  as they verbally  engaged in private jokes and sexual= =20 innuendo  that had the whole=20 breakfast bar in tears.

 

Mom: =E2=80=9C  A fact is something , a concept or= a=20 formula and outcome that can be proven true=E2=80=9D  =E2=80=9CIs the sky blue?

Son:  Yes

Mom:  (tersely and flashing teeth)  No its not ,it only appears blue .= .sky=20 is blue is not a fact

Son is seen squi= rming=20

On my left=20

Estelle to  the Bondsman : 

Estelle : ,,=E2= =80=A6=E2=80=A6ain=E2=80=99t it=20 a fact=E2=80=A6. Baldy=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6that when youse wuz sweet talking me= ;=E2=80=A6.you wuz seeing dat=20 floozy

 

Bondsman : dat w= asn=E2=80=99t=20 no floozy =E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6..

 

Estelle : Turnin= g her=20 back  to flip some eggs =E2= =80=9CWell who=20 was it den ?=E2=80=9D

 

Bondsman :   Fact wuz dat wuz my wife=20= =E2=80=A6errr my=20 ex wife =E2=80=A6..

 

The  uproar  interrupted Moms lecture  making her lean over with her son t= o ask=20 what happened =E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6

 

Michael:=20 (amid laughter ) =E2=80=A6.Facts of life=E2=80=A6. Disagreements over ..Fact= s of life=E2=80=A6..=20
-------------------------------1106623956-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 21:34:48 -0800 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Snow guards X-To: [log in to unmask] In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Really shouldn't be too big a whoop. The roofer came here one day with a couple of brackets and a couple of pieces of pipe and borrowed a wrench from Merrill because he forgot to bring one. In about 15 mins we had our Snow guards on. They work fine. Of course ours are about 10' up, not so darned high you have to carry O2 up with you like you guys in the city. Ruth At 10:01 AM -0500 1/24/05, ddiaz wrote: A year or so ago I asked for referrals for someone to F & I Snow guards on a metal roof in Bronx, NYC- anyone remember this and who they might have recommended -- J J.A. Drew Diaz -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Dummerston, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 22:38:57 -0800 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Besemer & Lehigh In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" So sorry about your friend, what a shame that such a great kid had to lose his life. About that bear, did you happen to meet my former neighbor--a certain Mr. Irving there with said bear? Ruth At 5:43 PM -0500 1/24/05, Gabriel Orgrease wrote: >Pamela S. Follett wrote: > >>Anyway, I always thought the train stop had crossed Besemer Hill Road, which >>would have been north of the manor house, wouldn't it? Getting old really >>sucks when there's too much other stuff cluttering the brain. >> >The map in A History of the Lehigh Valley Railroad, The Route of the >Black Diamond by Robert F. Archer shows that "Besemers" was a stop on >the line that went from Elmira to aWhite Church to Brooktondale to East >Ithaca to Freeville to Cortland then on to Oneida Lake ending at Camden. > >Directly north of Rt. 79 and to the west of Besemer Hill Rd. was in our >childhood the remnants of the water tank... a ruin of early concrete >walls. There was no wood tank structure then. The crick that supplied >the water ran to the east of Besemer Hill Rd. where it travelled south, >then made a turn to the west then eventually connected to Six Mile >Creek. I suspect that there was a small station at Besemers. I remember >once someone telling me that they not only remembered the station, but >had once been on a train to it... it may have been Doctor Mary that told >me this. Doctor Mary was our family Doctor and I went to her from like >5th grade up into the early 20's of age. She was one of the first women >to graduate from Cornell as a doctor and she subsequently settled in >Brooktondale in a house built very near, directly east of the trestle. >On the south side of Six Mile Creek there were the remnants of the gray >limestone abutements. To the north there was a road cut and the ditch to >the north of the road was always a problem for quicksand. Nobody has to >believe me but one night returning from scouts in Brooktondale to home >in Besemer I saw this really incredibly large UFO float out from above >the hill where the trestle would have ended. By the time we were alive >the rails had long since been removed, though in some places you could >still find the ties. I had walked many times the railbed in the area >between Besemer & Brooktondale, and up to White Church road and beyond >to the south, I also walked a few times the distance from Besemer to >Ithaca (7-8 miles). It was always a pleasant walk, plenty of interesting >plants to look at. I was very much into looking at wild plants. This was >decades before people got into makgn gree trails of abandoned railbeds. >I've seen photos of the trestle and it was impressive. > >There once was this place along Rt. 79 between Slaterville Springs and >Richford where there was an artesian spring that people would stop at to >get water and I remember one time we were going that way and they had a >large iron bar cage with a brown bear in it. > >I also remember the mill building in Brooktondale on the south side of >the falls. My stepfather would take me down there and we would stand >around the coal fired pot-belly stove while he talked w/ the guys there. >I was kind of pissed when they tore it down... and this was way before I >ever thought about histo presto. A friend of mine in scouts drowned in >the falls pool while rescuing two girls. The two girls survived. I'll >never forget my friend, he was the guy that we all of us kids looked up >to as the best marksman in scouts for the entire county -- he was always >leading us by his example. They were a hunting & fishing family working >close to the local land. His father worked the county road crew and got >some sort of posthumous medal for his son's bravery. > >][< > >-- >To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the >uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Dummerston, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 22:44:18 -0800 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Bessemer In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Pam, Would that be the state of "Confusion?" Ruth At 6:49 PM -0500 1/24/05, Pamela S. Follett wrote: >][plural. Jim & I will have to get you straightened out next time we're all >in the same state. > >- Pam -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Dummerston, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 07:56:42 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Bessemer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ruth - Denial, I think. - Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth Barton" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 01:44 Subject: [BP] Bessemer > Pam, Would that be the state of "Confusion?" Ruth > > > > At 6:49 PM -0500 1/24/05, Pamela S. Follett wrote: > >][ >plural. Jim & I will have to get you straightened out next time we're all > >in the same state. > > > >- Pam > -- > Ruth Barton > [log in to unmask] > Dummerston, VT > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 19:49:47 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: creighton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Jerry Williamsdog MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C50317.069CD600" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C50317.069CD600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable maybe his dads name was Sam. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Met History=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 5:30 PM Subject: [BP] Jerry Williamsdog In a message dated 1/24/2005 5:13:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: This is why I don't own a hand-gun. I think I could be provoked = into using it by this ass-hole. How's the Beagle? Right. A long gun would give better penetrating power, beagle would = be dead. Damages would be limited to loss of companionship to "owner", = who would have to prove real friendship, plus proof of purchase. Also, = if beagle important companion, why locked in back yard, alone? Did = owner actually torture dog, pellet would be a mercy killing? Also = possible "beagle" was actually Satan, in disguise. Or space alien. = Possible also muslim extremist, "beagle" appears to be code for attack = on USA, "B[lack] Eagle". Can't be too careful these days. c ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C50317.069CD600 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
maybe his dads name was Sam.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 [log in to unmask] href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Met = History=20
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 = 5:30=20 PM
Subject: [BP] Jerry = Williamsdog

In a message dated 1/24/2005 5:13:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] = writes:
This is why I don't own a hand-gun.  I think I = could be=20 provoked into
using it by this ass-hole.  How's the=20 Beagle?
Right.  A long gun would give = better=20 penetrating power, beagle would be dead.  Damages would be = limited to=20 loss of companionship to "owner", who would have to prove real = friendship,=20 plus proof of purchase.  Also, if beagle important = companion, why=20 locked in back yard, alone?  Did owner actually torture dog, = pellet would=20 be a mercy killing?   Also possible "beagle" was = actually=20 Satan, in disguise.  Or space alien.    Possible = also=20 muslim extremist, "beagle" appears to be code for attack on USA, = "B[lack]=20 Eagle".    Can't be too careful these days.   =  =20 c  
------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C50317.069CD600-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 20:02:26 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: creighton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Jerry Williams Telethon MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001A_01C50318.CAB44F40" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C50318.CAB44F40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A little guy came out of the large saucer that used to always be at = Brooktondale, he was pretty tired with all the abducting, and making all = the crop circles and all. He looked like Mr. Peanut, but all mother of = pearly, like those fancy toilet seats you see in Irac or some arab type = place. He told me it's all fabricated, everything, but he did remember = the Orgrease fellow ctbeep beep ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Met History=20 To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 5:56 PM Subject: [BP] Jerry Williams Telethon In a message 5:54:33 PM Eastern Regulatory Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: According to the "official stella awards" site this story is = fabricated.=20 doesn't make my legal analysis any less trenchant. yrs perry m. ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C50318.CAB44F40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
A little guy came out of the large saucer that used = to always=20 be at Brooktondale, he was pretty tired with all the abducting, and = making all=20 the crop circles and all. He looked like Mr. Peanut, but all mother of = pearly,=20 like those fancy toilet seats you see in Irac or some arab type place. = He told=20 me it's all fabricated, everything, but he did remember the Orgrease = fellow=20 ctbeep beep
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 [log in to unmask] href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Met = History=20
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 = 5:56=20 PM
Subject: [BP] Jerry Williams=20 Telethon

In a message 5:54:33 PM Eastern Regulatory Time, Dan.Becker@ILoveAluminu= mSiding.US=20 writes:
According to the "official stella awards" site this = story=20 is  fabricated.
doesn't make my legal analysis any = less=20 trenchant.   yrs  perry m.=20
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--------------060508050800070908050609-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 11:23:34 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Becker, Dan" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: TYRANNOSAURUS REX FOSSIL SKIN MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Why don't you drive on out to Hicksville and look it over. Hire ][log in to unmask] =20 919/807-8480 > -----Original Message----- > From: ddiaz [mailto:[log in to unmask]]=20 > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 11:19 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: [BP] TYRANNOSAURUS REX FOSSIL SKIN >=20 >=20 > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3D15915&item=3D650= 668 4247&rd=3D1&ssPageName=3DWDVW >=20 > --=20 >=20 > J.A. Drew Diaz > EDGE Development Construction > Suite 1205 > 150 W 28th St > NY, NY 10001 >=20 > t 212.741.7348 > f 212.741.7423 > c 917.971.1577 > e [log in to unmask] > w edgedc.com >=20 -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 14:20:44 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Cross post from Conservation DistList Inst. 18:34 (how could he tell?) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106767243" -------------------------------1106767243 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/25/2005 9:44:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Date: 24 Jan 2005 From: Eimear O'Connell Subject: Removing bat urine stains from painted wood I am working on a painted timber charity board (originally 18th century, with subsequent repaintings) which has been kept since its construction in an extremely damp parish church, with a significant resident bat population. A thick layer of accumulated dust and grime was removed relatively easily using first dry cleaning methods and then a 15% tac solution, but white staining--which I believe is caused by bat-urine--has proved impossible to clean with all the usual solvents. Does anyone have any suggestions? -------------------------------1106767243 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/25/2005 9:44:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, consdist= [log in to unmask] writes:
Date: 24 Jan 2005
From: Eimear O'Connell &l= t;oconnee [at] hotmail__com>
Subject: Removing bat urine stains from p= ainted wood

I am working on a painted timber charity board (originall= y 18th
century, with subsequent repaintings) which has been kept since it= s
construction in an extremely damp parish church, with a significant
= resident bat population. A thick layer of accumulated dust and grime
was=20= removed relatively easily using first dry cleaning methods and
then a 15%= tac solution, but white staining--which I believe is
caused by bat-urine= --has proved impossible to clean with all the
usual solvents. Does anyone= have any suggestions?
-------------------------------1106767243-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 14:22:22 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: add'l cross-post - (how does everyone on BP feel about Flugger?) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106767342" -------------------------------1106767342 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/25/2005 9:44:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Date: 22 Jan 2005 From: Mark Vine Subject: Antler A conservator without access to the Internet has asked for advice on what might be suitable for filling a gaping hole in an antler. My understanding is that the area that requires filling is pretty large, ideally the conservator would like to use something that could, if necessary, be easily reversed. My initial thought was the use of Paraloid B72 with a bulking agent such as microballoons combined with a suitable pigment or the use of an acrylic putty such as Flugger with a suitable pigment. Can anyone suggest alternatives or comment on the suitability of either of the above for this purpose? Mark Vine Conservation Resources (UK) Ltd England -------------------------------1106767342 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/25/2005 9:44:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, consdist= [log in to unmask] writes:
Date: 22 Jan 2005
From: Mark Vine <vpack= thread [at] aol__com>
Subject: Antler

A conservator without acc= ess to the Internet has asked for advice on
what might be suitable for fi= lling a gaping hole in an antler.

My understanding is that the area t= hat requires filling is pretty
large, ideally the conservator would like=20= to use something that
could, if necessary, be easily reversed.

My=20= initial thought was the use of Paraloid B72 with a bulking agent
such as=20= microballoons combined with a suitable pigment   or  the use<= BR>of an acrylic putty such as Flugger with a suitable pigment.

Can a= nyone suggest alternatives or comment on the suitability of
either of the= above for this purpose?

Mark Vine
Conservation Resources (UK) Ltd=
England
-------------------------------1106767342-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 15:42:26 -0500 Reply-To: [log in to unmask] Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: ddiaz <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: TYRANNOSAURUS REX FOSSIL SKIN In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050106010809050604020409" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050106010809050604020409 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit well as Hicksville is 10 minutes away i just might. the reptile museum was recently closed down, just around the corner from the ebay store and i'm wondering if this is where it came from Becker, Dan wrote: >Why don't you drive on out to Hicksville and look it over. Hire ]do some non-destructive testing. Let us know if we should bid. > >__________________________________________________ >Dan Becker, Exec. Dir. "Oh joy! Rapture! >Raleigh Historic I've got a brain!" >Districts Commission - Scarecrow >[log in to unmask] >919/807-8480 > > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: ddiaz [mailto:[log in to unmask]] >>Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 11:19 AM >>To: [log in to unmask] >>Subject: [BP] TYRANNOSAURUS REX FOSSIL SKIN >> >> >> >> >> >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=15915&item=650668 >4247&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW > > > >>-- >> >>J.A. Drew Diaz >>EDGE Development Construction >>Suite 1205 >>150 W 28th St >>NY, NY 10001 >> >>t 212.741.7348 >>f 212.741.7423 >>c 917.971.1577 >>e [log in to unmask] >>w edgedc.com >> >> >> > >-- >To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the >uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > > > -- J.A. Drew Diaz EDGE Development Construction Suite 1205 150 W 28th St NY, NY 10001 t 212.741.7348 f 212.741.7423 c 917.971.1577 e [log in to unmask] w edgedc.com --------------050106010809050604020409 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit well as Hicksville is 10 minutes away i just might.
the reptile museum was recently closed down, just around the corner from the ebay store and i'm wondering if this is where it came from

Becker, Dan wrote:
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Why don't you drive on out to Hicksville and look it over. Hire ]<en to
do some non-destructive testing. Let us know if we should bid.

__________________________________________________
Dan Becker,  Exec. Dir.        "Oh joy!  Rapture!
Raleigh Historic               I've got a brain!"
Districts Commission                  - Scarecrow
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Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 11:19 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [BP] TYRANNOSAURUS REX FOSSIL SKIN



    
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NY, NY 10001

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NY, NY 10001

 

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f 212.741.7423

c 917.971.1577

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--------------050106010809050604020409-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 15:05:29 -0800 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: TYRANNOSAURUS REX FOSSIL SKIN In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" When I went to look at this item I got the following message. I'm sure glad, I'd hate to buy an unsafe Tyrannosaurus Rex fossil skin. Wonder if anyone has a safe one for sale? Or what makes this one unsafe? Maybe it's on a LIVE Tyrannosaurus Rex. Ruth Invalid Item This listing (650668) has been removed by eBay. Make sure that you've entered the item number correctly. Please consider this listing and transaction as cancelled. If anybody contacts you to complete the sale, please ignore the request. Completing the sale outside of eBay may be unsafe and will not be covered by eBay purchase protection programs. At 11:23 AM -0500 1/26/05, Becker, Dan wrote: >Why don't you drive on out to Hicksville and look it over. Hire ]do some non-destructive testing. Let us know if we should bid. -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Dummerston, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 20:09:14 -0800 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: add'l cross-post - (how does everyone on BP feel about Flugger?) In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I am not familiar with Flugger, my suggestion would be methyl methacrylate. I think I spelled that correctly, it's been a long time since I worked with that substance. It will fill voids and should be able to be removed fairly easily with tools. Ruth PS: Tell me more about Flugger. Do you think it would work to fill voids in broken gravestones? At 2:22 PM -0500 1/26/05, Met History wrote: In a message dated 1/25/2005 9:44:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Date: 22 Jan 2005 From: Mark Vine Subject: Antler A conservator without access to the Internet has asked for advice on what might be suitable for filling a gaping hole in an antler. My understanding is that the area that requires filling is pretty large, ideally the conservator would like to use something that could, if necessary, be easily reversed. My initial thought was the use of Paraloid B72 with a bulking agent such as microballoons combined with a suitable pigment or the use of an acrylic putty such as Flugger with a suitable pigment. Can anyone suggest alternatives or comment on the suitability of either of the above for this purpose? Mark Vine Conservation Resources (UK) Ltd England -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Dummerston, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 21:05:44 -0800 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Cross post from Conservation DistList Inst. 18:34 (how could he tell?) In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I'll be interested to know what is suggested here. Was that "how could he tell" it's bat pee? Ruth At 2:20 PM -0500 1/26/05, Met History wrote: In a message dated 1/25/2005 9:44:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Date: 24 Jan 2005 From: Eimear O'Connell Subject: Removing bat urine stains from painted wood I am working on a painted timber charity board (originally 18th century, with subsequent repaintings) which has been kept since its construction in an extremely damp parish church, with a significant resident bat population. A thick layer of accumulated dust and grime was removed relatively easily using first dry cleaning methods and then a 15% tac solution, but white staining--which I believe is caused by bat-urine--has proved impossible to clean with all the usual solvents. Does anyone have any suggestions? -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Dummerston, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 06:48:04 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: TYRANNOSAURUS REX FOSSIL SKIN MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106826484" -------------------------------1106826484 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/26/2005 6:47:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Ruth, It's not that the T Rex skin is unsafe, it's unsafe to buy it without giving Mr. eBay his percentage of the sale. This is because Mr. eBay has all sorts of procedures intended to protect both buyer and the seller from getting hosed by the other, and if you don't give him his cut, you're not entitled to that protection. Careful Reader When I went to look at this item I got the following message. I'm sure glad, I'd hate to buy an unsafe Tyrannosaurus Rex fossil skin. Wonder if anyone has a safe one for sale? Or what makes this one unsafe? Maybe it's on a LIVE Tyrannosaurus Rex. Ruth Invalid Item This listing (650668) has been removed by eBay. Make sure that you've entered the item number correctly. Please consider this listing and transaction as cancelled. If anybody contacts you to complete the sale, please ignore the request. Completing the sale outside of eBay may be unsafe and will not be covered by eBay purchase protection programs. -------------------------------1106826484 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/26/2005 6:47:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
 
Ruth,
 
It's not that the T Rex skin is unsafe, it's unsafe to buy it=20 without giving Mr. eBay his percentage of the sale.  This is because Mr= .=20 eBay has all sorts of procedures intended to protect both buyer and the sell= er=20 from getting hosed by the other, and if you don't give him his cut, you're n= ot=20 entitled to that protection.
 
Careful Reader
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>When I=20 went to look at this item I got the following message.  I'm sure
g= lad,=20 I'd  hate to buy an unsafe Tyrannosaurus Rex fossil skin.  Wonde= r=20 if
anyone has a safe one for sale? Or what makes this one unsafe? Maybe= =20 it's
on a LIVE Tyrannosaurus Rex.  Ruth



Invalid=20 Item
This listing (650668) has been removed by eBay. Make sure that=20 you've
entered the item number correctly.
Please consider this listi= ng=20 and transaction as cancelled. If anybody
contacts you to complete the s= ale,=20 please ignore the request. Completing
the sale outside of eBay may be=20 unsafe and will not be covered by eBay
purchase protection=20 programs.
 
-------------------------------1106826484-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 06:52:12 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Cross post from Conservation DistList Inst. 18:34 (how could he ... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1106826732" -------------------------------1106826732 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/26/2005 9:08:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Was that "how could he tell" it's bat pee? Ruth Sounds like the difference between an oral and a rectal thermometer. Ralph -------------------------------1106826732 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/26/2005 9:08:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>Was that=20 "how could he tell" it's bat pee?  Ruth
Sounds like the difference between an oral and a rectal thermometer.
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1106826732-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 15:00:49 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: TYRANNOSAURUS REX FOSSIL SKIN MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0040_01C50613.51C6DE60" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C50613.51C6DE60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ruth - You have an invalid number (perhaps the email cut it short on you since = you're a textual type of gal. Try looking for item # 6506684247 - the = other number is probably REALLY old (like the t-rex skin). - Pam ----- Original Message -----=20 From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 06:48 Subject: Re: [BP] TYRANNOSAURUS REX FOSSIL SKIN In a message dated 1/26/2005 6:47:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes: Ruth, It's not that the T Rex skin is unsafe, it's unsafe to buy it without = giving Mr. eBay his percentage of the sale. This is because Mr. eBay = has all sorts of procedures intended to protect both buyer and the = seller from getting hosed by the other, and if you don't give him his = cut, you're not entitled to that protection. Careful Reader When I went to look at this item I got the following message. I'm = sure glad, I'd hate to buy an unsafe Tyrannosaurus Rex fossil skin. = Wonder if anyone has a safe one for sale? Or what makes this one unsafe? Maybe = it's on a LIVE Tyrannosaurus Rex. Ruth Invalid Item This listing (650668) has been removed by eBay. Make sure that = you've entered the item number correctly. Please consider this listing and transaction as cancelled. If = anybody contacts you to complete the sale, please ignore the request. = Completing the sale outside of eBay may be unsafe and will not be covered by = eBay purchase protection programs. ------=_NextPart_000_0040_01C50613.51C6DE60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ruth -
 
You have an invalid number (perhaps the email cut it short on you = since=20 you're a textual type of gal.  Try looking for item # 6506684247 - = the=20 other number is probably REALLY old (like the t-rex skin).
 
- Pam
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]=20
To: [log in to unmask] = href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINH= [log in to unmask]=20
Sent: Thursday, January 27, = 2005=20 06:48
Subject: Re: [BP] TYRANNOSAURUS = REX=20 FOSSIL SKIN

In a message dated 1/26/2005 6:47:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, = [log in to unmask] writes:
 
Ruth,
 
It's not that the T Rex skin is unsafe, it's unsafe to = buy it=20 without giving Mr. eBay his percentage of the sale.  This is = because Mr.=20 eBay has all sorts of procedures intended to protect both buyer and = the seller=20 from getting hosed by the other, and if you don't give him his cut, = you're not=20 entitled to that protection.
 
Careful Reader
When I=20 went to look at this item I got the following message.  I'm=20 sure
glad, I'd  hate to buy an unsafe Tyrannosaurus Rex = fossil=20 skin.  Wonder if
anyone has a safe one for sale? Or what = makes this=20 one unsafe? Maybe it's
on a LIVE Tyrannosaurus Rex. =20 Ruth



Invalid Item
This listing (650668) has been = removed=20 by eBay. Make sure that you've
entered the item number=20 correctly.
Please consider this listing and transaction as = cancelled. If=20 anybody
contacts you to complete the sale, please ignore the = request.=20 Completing
the sale outside of eBay may be unsafe and will not be = covered=20 by eBay
purchase protection = programs.
 
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Massive cow manure mound burns for third=20 month
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Urban dwellers = who=20 enjoy dining on filet mignon at five-star restaurants would probably = just as=20 soon not know about David Dickinson's dilemma.
FULL STORY
------=_NextPart_000_0068_01C50627.589777E0-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 17:52:09 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Remind me to ask for a city burger MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1107039129" -------------------------------1107039129 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You could've gone all day without telling us about this. Ralph -------------------------------1107039129 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
You could've gone all day without telling us about this.
 
Ralph
 -------------------------------1107039129-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 00:29:17 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Buffalo Bill MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_f.3d72dfcd.2f2dcaad_boundary" --part1_f.3d72dfcd.2f2dcaad_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "I often think that the night is more alive and more richly colored than the= =20 day." =20 -------Vincent van Gogh,1888, while painting "The Night Caf=E9" "I have been to Buffalo's.* You must make all efforts to come to see it. I= t=20 is of enormous interest" * [Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show at the 1889=20 World's Fair in Paris] =20 -------Paul Gauguin, the year before he decided to go to Tahiti "We demand, for ten years, the total suppression of the nude in=20 painting....as nauseous and as tedious as adultery in literature." =20 ----------Umberto Boccioni (et al.), The Futurist Manifesto, 1910 "To admire an old picture is to pour our sentiment into a funeral urn."=20 -----------F. T. Marinetti, "The Foundation and Manifesto of Futurism", 1908 "When we are no longer children, we are already dead." =20 -------Mondrian, 1943 "What a miserable fate for a painter who adores blondes to have to stop=20 putting them into a picture because they don't go with the basket of fruit!"= =20 ----------Picasso, 1935 "In the noisy street catastrophe goes by." =20 ---------de Chirico, 1912 "What really counts is to strip the soul naked. Painting or poetry is made=20 as we make love; a total embrace, prudence thrown to the wind, nothing held=20 back.... Have you ever heard of greater nonsense than the aims of the=20 Abstractionist group! And they invite me to share their deserted house as i= f the signs=20 that I transcribe on canvas, at the moment when they correspond to a concret= e=20 representation of my mind, were not profoundly real!" ----------Miro, 1936 "The Eiffel Tower makes a dual impression; one is attracted by the technical= =20 simplicity of its form, and, at the same time, repelled by its aimlessness."= =20 -----------Trotsky, "Literature and Revolution", 1923 --part1_f.3d72dfcd.2f2dcaad_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
"I often think that the night is more alive and more richly colored than the= day."
-------Vincent van Gogh,1888, while painting "The Night Caf=E9"

"I have been to Buffalo's.*  You must make all efforts to come to see i= t.  It is of enormous interest"   * [Buffalo Bill's Wild West= Show at the 1889 World's Fair in Paris]
-------Paul Gauguin, the year before he decided to go to Tahiti

"We demand, for ten years, the total suppression of the nude in painting....= as nauseous and as tedious as adultery in literature."
----------Umberto Boccioni (et al.), The Futurist Manifesto, 1910

"To admire an old picture is to pour our sentiment into a funeral urn."
-----------F. T. Marinetti, "The Foundation and Manifesto of Futurism", 1908=

"When we are no longer children, we are already dead."
-------Mondrian, 1943

"What a miserable fate for a painter who adores blondes to have to stop putt= ing them into a picture because they don't go with the basket of fruit!" ----------Picasso, 1935

"In the noisy street catastrophe goes by."
---------de Chirico, 1912

"What really counts is to strip the soul naked.  Painting or poetry is=20= made as we make love; a total embrace, prudence thrown to the wind, nothing=20= held back.... Have you ever heard of greater nonsense than the aims of the A= bstractionist group!  And they invite me to share their deserted house=20= as if the signs that I transcribe on canvas, at the moment when they corresp= ond to a concrete representation of my mind, were not profoundly real!"
----------Miro, 1936

"The Eiffel Tower makes a dual impression; one is attracted by the technical= simplicity of its form, and, at the same time, repelled by its aimlessness.= "
-----------Trotsky, "Literature and Revolution", 1923 --part1_f.3d72dfcd.2f2dcaad_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 09:19:33 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Buffalo Bill MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1107094772" -------------------------------1107094772 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So now we know artists (and Trotsky) are capable of writing the same kind of horseshit that we have already seen from architects. This is not good news. Ralph -------------------------------1107094772 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
So now we know artists (and Trotsky) are capable of writing the same ki= nd=20 of horseshit that we have already seen from architects.  This is not go= od=20 news.
 
Ralph
 -------------------------------1107094772-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 09:50:59 -0500 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pamela S. Follett" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Remind me to ask for a city burger MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002B_01C506B1.33C2F540" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C506B1.33C2F540 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yup, but I didn't. - Pam ----- Original Message -----=20 From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 17:52 Subject: Re: [BP] Remind me to ask for a city burger You could've gone all day without telling us about this. Ralph ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C506B1.33C2F540 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yup, but I didn't.
 
- Pam
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You could've gone all day without telling us about this.
 
Ralph
------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C506B1.33C2F540-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 10:10:59 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Remind me to ask for a city burger MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1107097859" -------------------------------1107097859 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/30/2005 9:37:05 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Yup, but I didn't. - Pam What are friends for, eh (as Cuyler and the Canadians say)? Does that make them the "Say, eh" kids? Ralph -------------------------------1107097859 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/30/2005 9:37:05 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
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Yup, but I didn't.
 
- Pam
What are friends for, eh (as Cuyler and the Canadians say)?
 
Does that make them the "Say, eh" kids? 
 
Ralph
 -------------------------------1107097859-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 09:33:16 -0800 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Art In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" This is one of the great comments on art, sent to me by someone on another list. Ruth Greg & I went to a traveling art exhibit at Earlhem college, in our hometown of Richmond. We saw canvas after canvas with globs of paint on them that looked like a paint factory had blown up. Neither rhyme nor reason. A weasel could have painted them, and likely would have done a better job. None the less, people were oooing and ahhhing over the paintings. -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Dummerston, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 11:26:10 -0800 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Cuyler Page <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Heritage Interpretation Services Subject: Re: Art MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01C506BE.7F943760" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C506BE.7F943760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Neither rhyme nor > reason. A weasel could have painted them, and likely would have done a > better job. None the less, people were oooing and ahhhing over the > paintings. Sir Uvedale Price, champion of the "Picturesque" style of English = landscape design and who as Knighted for his treatises on landscaping, = said "Nature is prolific but hath no taste." He also said "True art = can only be learned by studying the patterns of nature." and "Taste and = a sense of beauty is a quality of the human mind." I once saw a lecture about the Golden Ratio in which famous works of art = were analysized to see if they contained Golden Ratio proportions. The = point of the lecture was that we humans are hard-wired to appreciate = Golden Ratio proportions, whether created consciously or not. A famous = Jackson Pollack painting, made by dripping paint from the top of a = ladder, had recently been sold at auction (the painting) for the most = money of any of his works, and featured a big black spot on a yellow = background with the spot centred procisely at a Golden Ratio division = point. Some said he was a weasel, but not all. cp in bc ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C506BE.7F943760 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> Neither rhyme nor
> reason. = A weasel=20 could have painted them, and likely would have done a
> better = job. None=20 the less, people were oooing and ahhhing over the
>=20 paintings.
Sir Uvedale Price, champion of the = "Picturesque"=20 style of English landscape design and who as Knighted for his treatises = on=20 landscaping, said "Nature is prolific but hath no=20 taste."   He = also said=20 "True=20 art can only be learned by studying the patterns of nature."=20 and=20 "Taste and = a sense=20 of beauty is a quality of the human=20 mind."
 
I once saw a lecture about the Golden = Ratio in=20 which famous works of art were analysized to see if they contained = Golden Ratio=20 proportions.   The point of the lecture was that we humans are = hard-wired to appreciate Golden Ratio proportions, whether created = consciously=20 or not.   A famous Jackson Pollack painting, made by = dripping paint from the top of a ladder, had recently been = sold at=20 auction (the painting) for the most money of any of his works, and = featured=20 a big black spot on a yellow background with the spot centred procisely = at a=20 Golden Ratio division point.
 
Some said he was a weasel, but not=20 all.
 
 
cp in bc
------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C506BE.7F943760-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 19:13:30 -0800 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Golden Ratio In-Reply-To: <001501c50701$af1b70a0$251ac2cf@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" What is this Golden Ratio? Is it anything like the rainbow with a pot of gold at the end? Ruth At 11:26 AM -0800 1/30/05, Cuyler Page wrote: I once saw a lecture about the Golden Ratio in which famous works of art were analysized to see if they contained Golden Ratio proportions. The point of the lecture was that we humans are hard-wired to appreciate Golden Ratio proportions, whether created consciously or not. A famous Jackson Pollack painting, made by dripping paint from the top of a ladder, had recently been sold at auction (the painting) for the most money of any of his works, and featured a big black spot on a yellow background with the spot centred procisely at a Golden Ratio division point. Some said he was a weasel, but not all. cp in bc -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Dummerston, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 19:29:37 -0800 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: what does high heat and burning do to stone and mortar? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" This is a question asked on another list I'm on. I don't know the answer and since controlled burn would be a convenient way to clear brush I'm curious to know the answer. Anybody? Thanks, Ruth Controlled burns are used in Dept of Natural Resource properties in about 5 DNR controlled cemeteries in Indiana....the real question has NEVER been answered by DNR or scientific research....and that is what does high heat and burning do to the stone and mortars? -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Dummerston, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 21:04:04 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Golden Ratio MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1107137044" -------------------------------1107137044 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/30/2005 7:57:41 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: What is this Golden Ratio? Is it anything like the rainbow with a pot of gold at the end? Ruth I think "load of shit" is more like it. It's some mathematical proportion (not unlike a 3x5 index card, or the size of a US Flag), that the Greeks discovered in nature and considered to be beautiful; I think the proportions of a spiral (maybe in the chambered nautilus?) conform. It may be pretty, but I don't see it as a useful basis for the design of buildings. Ralph -------------------------------1107137044 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/30/2005 7:57:41 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>What is=20 this Golden Ratio?  Is it anything like the rainbow with a pot of
= gold=20 at the end?  Ruth
I think "load of shit" is more like it. 
 
It's some mathematical proportion (not unlike a 3x5 index card, or the=20= size=20 of a US Flag), that the Greeks discovered in nature and considered to be=20 beautiful; I think the proportions of a spiral (maybe in the chambered=20 nautilus?) conform.
 
It may be pretty, but I don't see it as a useful basis for the design o= f=20 buildings.
 
Ralph
-------------------------------1107137044-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 21:13:04 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: what does high heat and burning do to stone and mortar? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1107137584" -------------------------------1107137584 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/30/2005 7:57:50 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: This is a question asked on another list I'm on. I don't know the answer and since controlled burn would be a convenient way to clear brush I'm curious to know the answer. Anybody? Thanks, Ruth You'd have to know what kind of stone, and what kind of mortars, are being subjected to how much heat, and for how long. There must be calculations somewhere about how much heat a brushfire generates, and once could theoretically get test data on how various types of stone react to various temperatures. I suspect that a brushfire burns quickly enough that it wouldn't do much damage to reasonably thick stone; wet stone might explode, though. Some mortars are made to resist high temperatures, and there's probably info somewhere on the temperatures at which "normal" mortars are damaged by heat. If those aren't enough caveats, somebody else will throw in a few. Ralph -------------------------------1107137584 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/30/2005 7:57:50 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>This is=20 a question asked on another list I'm on.  I don't know the answer
= and=20 since controlled burn would be a convenient way to clear brush I'm
curi= ous=20 to know the answer.  Anybody?  Thanks, =20 Ruth
You'd have to know what kind of stone, and what kind of mortars, are be= ing=20 subjected to how much heat, and for how long.  There must be calculatio= ns=20 somewhere about how much heat a brushfire generates, and once could=20 theoretically get test data on how various types of stone react to various=20 temperatures. I suspect that a brushfire burns quickly enough that it wouldn= 't=20 do much damage to reasonably thick stone; wet stone might explode,=20 though.  Some mortars are made to resist high temperatures, and there's= =20 probably info somewhere on the temperatures at which "normal" mortars are=20 damaged by heat.
 
If those aren't enough caveats, somebody else will throw in a few.
 
Ralph
 
 
-------------------------------1107137584-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 20:36:27 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Golden Ratio In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ruth, It is a very convenient way to lay out a design into patterns of rectangles and squares that all have the same proportions. I don't believe for a second that the resulting shapes are individually any more beautiful than any other individual shape. However, as a "system" they tend to produce designs that hang together without the jarring surprises that are found in arbitrary shape and size selection. Its also convenient because a lot of plate glass and spandrel glass is produced in these proportions. Its been in use for a long time. The Modernists and others who confuse architecture with religion really get off on it. As a practical matter for us preservationeers, its good to be able to recognize it and work with it when you are analyzing a building's design. It helps make the building predictable. Predictability helps us be persuasive. I can not reply directly to Ralph. I note that he said it was a load of shit. He is of course mostly right and very brief. Now if we could only get him to take his briefs off his head. Golden Ration, Golden Mean, Golden Rectangle...all pretty much the same thing. BUT! Golden Mullion was a very special class I once survived. -jc On Jan 30, 2005, at 9:13 PM, Ruth Barton wrote: > What is this Golden Ratio? Is it anything like the rainbow with a pot > of > gold at the end? Ruth > > > > > > At 11:26 AM -0800 1/30/05, Cuyler Page wrote: > > I once saw a lecture about the Golden Ratio in which famous works of > art > were analysized to see if they contained Golden Ratio proportions. > The > point of the lecture was that we humans are hard-wired to appreciate > Golden > Ratio proportions, whether created consciously or not. A famous > Jackson > Pollack painting, made by dripping paint from the top of a ladder, had > recently been sold at auction (the painting) for the most money of any > of > his works, and featured a big black spot on a yellow background with > the > spot centred procisely at a Golden Ratio division point. > > Some said he was a weasel, but not all. > > > cp in bc > > -- > Ruth Barton > [log in to unmask] > Dummerston, VT > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 21:44:14 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Golden Ratio MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1107139454" -------------------------------1107139454 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/30/2005 9:36:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: I can not reply directly to Ralph. Yeah, right. You did already. I note that he said it was a load of shit. He is of course mostly right I will try to focus on the foregoing, and be more of the after following and very brief. Now if we could only get him to take his briefs off his head. Unfortunately (for me), the briefs on my head are my own, and believe me, you want them right where they are. Although "in the laundry" might be a good second choice. Trust me on this. Ralph -------------------------------1107139454 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/30/2005 9:36:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>I can=20 not reply directly to Ralph. Yeah, right.  You did=20 already. I note that he said it was a load of shit.  He= is=20 of course mostly right I will try to focus on the foregoing, and b= e=20 more of the after following and very brief.  Now if we=20 could
only get him to take his briefs off his head. Unfortunate= ly=20 (for me), the briefs on my head are my own, and believe me, you want=20= them=20 right where they are. Although "in the laundry" might be a good second=20 choice.  Trust me on this.
Ralph
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000=20 size=3D2>

 
 
-------------------------------1107139454-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 22:42:01 -0800 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Golden Ratio In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I guess it's one of those things, "I can't explain it but I know it when I see it." Well, sounds to me like the "Golden Fleece." We got us this fancy X-clusive pri-vate skule up heah in the boonies. They just built themselfs a new buildin', probly designed by one O' them fancy city arc-i-tecs. It's got them roofs goin' ever which a way. Any dern fool whats lived in this climate for a winter or two would know that design is just askin' fer trouble. Well, now mister, they got the troubles. I heered tell they got the leaks in them roofs real bad, yess sir!! Serves 'em right, bring in them thar city fellers to put this abomination on our landscape. And that's all I gotta say. Ruth At 8:36 PM -0600 1/30/05, John Callan wrote: >Ruth, > >It is a very convenient way to lay out a design into patterns of >rectangles and squares that all have the same proportions. I don't >believe for a second that the resulting shapes are individually any >more beautiful than any other individual shape. However, as a "system" >they tend to produce designs that hang together without the jarring >surprises that are found in arbitrary shape and size selection. Its >also convenient because a lot of plate glass and spandrel glass is >produced in these proportions. Its been in use for a long time. The >Modernists and others who confuse architecture with religion really get >off on it. > >As a practical matter for us preservationeers, its good to be able to >recognize it and work with it when you are analyzing a building's >design. It helps make the building predictable. Predictability helps >us be persuasive. > >I can not reply directly to Ralph. I note that he said it was a load >of shit. He is of course mostly right and very brief. Now if we could >only get him to take his briefs off his head. > >Golden Ration, Golden Mean, Golden Rectangle...all pretty much the same >thing. BUT! Golden Mullion was a very special class I once survived. > >-jc > > >On Jan 30, 2005, at 9:13 PM, Ruth Barton wrote: > >> What is this Golden Ratio? Is it anything like the rainbow with a pot >> of >> gold at the end? Ruth >> >> >> >> >> >> At 11:26 AM -0800 1/30/05, Cuyler Page wrote: >> >> I once saw a lecture about the Golden Ratio in which famous works of >> art >> were analysized to see if they contained Golden Ratio proportions. >> The >> point of the lecture was that we humans are hard-wired to appreciate >> Golden >> Ratio proportions, whether created consciously or not. A famous >> Jackson >> Pollack painting, made by dripping paint from the top of a ladder, had >> recently been sold at auction (the painting) for the most money of any >> of >> his works, and featured a big black spot on a yellow background with >> the >> spot centred procisely at a Golden Ratio division point. >> >> Some said he was a weasel, but not all. >> >> >> cp in bc >> >> -- >> Ruth Barton >> [log in to unmask] >> Dummerston, VT >> >> -- >> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the >> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: >> >> > >-- >To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the >uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > -- Ruth Barton [log in to unmask] Dummerston, VT -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 23:02:36 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Golden Ratio MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1107144156" -------------------------------1107144156 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/30/2005 10:55:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: I guess it's one of those things, "I can't explain it but I know it when I see it." Well, sounds to me like the "Golden Fleece." You got it, baby! We got us this fancy X-clusive pri-vate skule up heah in the boonies. They just built themselfs a new buildin', probly designed by one O' them fancy city arc-i-tecs. It's got them roofs goin' ever which a way. Tell us more about this school, like maybe the name so we can look 'em up on the internet and see their fancy new, leaky building. Other people's screwups are MUCH more enjoyable than our own. The real question is why it leaks: bad design, bad materials, bad construction, or all of the above. Any dern fool whats lived in this climate for a winter or two would know that design is just askin' fer trouble. Well, now mister, they got the troubles. I heered tell they got the leaks in them roofs real bad, yess sir!! Serves 'em right, bring in them thar city fellers to put this abomination on our landscape. And that's all I gotta say. Don't clam up on us after giving us this little present! Ruth Ralph -------------------------------1107144156 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 1/30/2005 10:55:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,=20 [log in to unmask] writes:
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-------------------------------1107144156-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 08:57:26 EST Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Met History <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Golden Ration MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_fb.69b743b0.2f2f9346_boundary" --part1_fb.69b743b0.2f2f9346_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 1/30/05 11:03:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: > e got us this fancy X-clusive pri-vate skule up heah in the boonies. They > just built themselfs a new buildin', probly designed by one O' them fancy > city arc-i-tecs. It's got them roofs goin' ever which a way. funny you mention roofs, Ruth. we have a fancy one-block street here in New York, G...ie Sq...e, Gloria Vanderbilt lived there, etc. one of the top end co-ops had its >>>entire facade<<< replaced, brick by brick, stone by stone, flash by flash, grain of sand in mortar by grain of sand in mortar, by one of New York's tippy-top architectural/engineering firms. such complete rebuilds are really unknown for 1920's buildings (although quite common for cheap 1960's buildings.) at any rate, even after this soup to nuts job ... the building still leaked. indeed according to some tenants, it leaked even more. the architect? i forget his name. i think his best know work is "Harsh, Splotchy Stains I Risked Life And Limb To Personally Apply To The Limestone Of A Major Athletic Club, Thinking Nothing Of My Own Personal Safety, My Only Object Being Great Art". now this noble person is modest - he is the first to eschew any swaggering strange rooflines - he will say that he didn't even work on the job, and give all the credit to someone else in his firm, but i have it on good authority that the entire design genius behind that project was his, working nights and weekends, late into the night, over takeout Javanese dinners, often going for days or weeks without a bath - possibly without even going to the bathroom, except where designated in the contract. indeed, i believe he is a subscriber to this list! sincerely yours, Buffalo Bill --part1_fb.69b743b0.2f2f9346_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 1/30/05 11:03:44= PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:

e got us this fancy X-clusive p= ri-vate skule up heah in the boonies.  They
just built themselfs a new buildin', probly designed by one O' them fancy city arc-i-tecs.  It's got them roofs goin' ever which a way.

funny you mention roofs, Ruth.  we have a fancy one-block street here i= n New York, G...ie Sq...e, Gloria Vanderbilt lived there, etc.  &n= bsp; one of the top end co-ops had its >>>entire facade<<<= replaced, brick by brick, stone by stone, flash by flash, grain of sand in=20= mortar by grain of sand in mortar, by one of New York's tippy-top architectu= ral/engineering firms.  such complete rebuilds are really unknown for 1= 920's buildings (although quite common for cheap 1960's buildings.)

at any rate, even after this soup to nuts job ... the building still leaked.=   indeed according to some tenants, it leaked even more.   th= e architect?  i forget his name. i think his best know work is "Harsh,=20= Splotchy Stains I Risked Life And Limb To Personally Apply To The Limestone=20= Of A Major Athletic Club, Thinking Nothing Of My Own Personal Safety, My Onl= y Object Being Great Art".    

now this noble person is modest - he is the first to eschew any swaggering s= trange rooflines - he will say that he didn't even work on the job, and give= all the credit to someone else in his firm, but i have it on good authority= that the entire design genius behind that project was his, working nights a= nd weekends, late into the night, over takeout Javanese dinners, often going= for days or weeks without a bath - possibly without even going to the bathr= oom, except where designated in the contract.   

indeed, i believe he is a subscriber to this list!  

sincerely yours,  Buffalo Bill --part1_fb.69b743b0.2f2f9346_boundary-- -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 15:11:49 -0600 Reply-To: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Follett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Remind me to ask for a city burger In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003E_01C507A7.2FF2EEB0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01C507A7.2FF2EEB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is that a Hawaiian Burger? "that's a mighty taste burger". -----Original Message----- From: Pre-patinated plastic gumby block w/ coin slot [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Pamela S. Follett Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 8:51 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BP] Remind me to ask for a city burger Yup, but I didn't. - Pam ----- Original Message ----- From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 17:52 Subject: Re: [BP] Remind me to ask for a city burger You could've gone all day without telling us about this. Ralph ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01C507A7.2FF2EEB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Is that a Hawaiian Burger? "that's = a mighty=20 taste burger".
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From: Pre-patinated = plastic=20 gumby block w/ coin slot=20 [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of = Pamela=20 S. Follett
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 8:51 = AM
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Subject: Re: [BP] = Remind=20 me to ask for a city burger

Yup, but I didn't.
 
- Pam
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You could've gone all day without telling us about this.
 
Ralph
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