In a message dated 11/7/2004 10:06:25 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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at all  times, we get the leaders we deserve



How about "the leaders some of us deserve?"  Surely there are  innocents who
deserve better than what they got.  Maybe even some  not-so-innocents deserve
better.

Sign me,

Way Down Deep Within The Cellar (for solo  trombone)