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Wow! What a mess!  Sorry about that!  I did clean that up so I don't know
how all that junk got back in to the story  If you want me to try again,
I will, but it was basicly a story about a little blind Girl that Nicole
C Mullen's had met a few years ago.  The little girl had drown while at
summer camp and Mullen's wrote a song about her life.  Maybe Chris will
have better luck cleaning it up and reposting it.  I'm afraid to touch it
again!
Kathy

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Date:         Thu, 19 Aug 2004 15:34:23 -0400
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Hey Sandy,
Is Phil okay?  He hasn't posted for a while.  I hope that he is catching
up on his sleep.
Kathy

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Chris, I will tell him.  He is getting the cast on as I am writing.  He is
hoping for a glow in the dark cast.

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Philip is fine.  We have had just a lot going on.

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Sandy,
It is all right.  Don't worry about it or go to any more trouble to clean it
up.  I never have trouble reading such messages.  I just have to arrow down
a couple or three lines, then it is in plain English.  (smile)

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I'm not given to much forward, especially to the list.  But I really =
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would have especially benefited.  I don't know why my setting is off.

Blessings,
Vicki

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            Belly Laughs
            by John Fischer
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            Not long ago I spent three days in a hotel in rural Indiana. =
 In the lobby of my hotel was a group of six women who spent the better =
part of a day laughing and carrying on while they worked on a sewing =
project together.  These six women, ranging in age from fifty-five to =
eighty, shared an obvious camaraderie that evidenced itself in their =
animated conversation, laced with a generous supply of laughter-what I =
would call belly laughter, a =
deep-from-way-down-inside-because-we've-gone-through-so-much-together =
laughter that was highly contagious. And when I saw their Bibles come =
out, I knew I had to find out more.

            I almost fell in on them I was eavesdropping so close, but =
one of them caught me and invited me in.  That's when I found out they =
were at one time all from the same town and were meeting back at this =
hotel as a sort of semi-annual reunion. I could see why they would make =
the effort because they indeed had something special going here.

            When I asked them why they were still meeting, I received a =
litany of divorce, cancer, dead husbands, and lost children that would =
have kept a sitcom supplied with material for more seasons than Friends =
ever dreamed of.  There was history behind those belly laughs.  There =
was an obvious spiritual center to this group, but not a rubber stamp.  =
There was a Roman Catholic, a southern Baptist, a Methodist, a =
Pentecostal, and two who named no church affiliation, yet I couldn't =
help thinking that they were having church there, and it was a church I =
wouldn't mind joining.=20

            The "youngest" and spunkiest among them was quite clearly =
the eighty year-old who was actually the excuse for this particular =
get-together having just turned eighty that week.  I commented about how =
she didn't look a day over sixty-five. That's when one of the other =
women quipped: "Oh she's eighty, alright. Why do you think she's been =
trying to thread that needle for the last 15 minutes!"  Belly laughs =
followed with birthday girl, the loudest.=20

            What held these women together wasn't just a religious =
experience, it was their shared human experiences as well, their love =
and respect for each other and their ability to let each other's =
character come out of the box where I would wager it stays most of the =
time when they are not together like this.=20

            I actually found myself being jealous of what these women =
had, until I realized I could have it too.  It requires commitment, =
stark honesty, love, acceptance, and refusal to judge one another. It =
requires needing and serving one another.  This is something we all =
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Vicki,

Loving one, I am glad you are sending these, as I have saved a bunch of
them to send, but I seem to have problems sending them. I even delete the
pictures before I send them.

For some reason, it's hard to get these made into plain text. lol.

I can send Yesterday's if you want, it was really good, unless you want to
send it. <smile>

Third time is a charm. lol.

Love and Blessings,
Pat Ferguson



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>Vicki
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>animated conversation, laced with a generous supply of laughter-what I =
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Vicki,<br><br>
Loving one, I am glad you are sending these, as I have saved a bunch of
them to send, but I seem to have problems sending them. I even delete the
pictures before I send them.<br><br>
For some reason, it's hard to get these made into plain text.
lol.<br><br>
I can send Yesterday's if you want, it was really good, unless you want
to send it. &lt;smile&gt;<br><br>
Third time is a charm. lol.<br><br>
Love and Blessings,<br>
Pat Ferguson<br><br>
<br><br>
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off.<br><br>
Blessings,<br>
Vicki<br><br>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Belly
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Not
long ago I spent three days in a hotel in rural Indiana. =<br>
&nbsp;In the lobby of my hotel was a group of six women who spent the
better =<br>
part of a day laughing and carrying on while they worked on a sewing
=<br>
project together.&nbsp; These six women, ranging in age from fifty-five
to =<br>
eighty, shared an obvious camaraderie that evidenced itself in their
=<br>
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=<br>
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laughter that was highly contagious. And when I saw their Bibles come
=<br>
out, I knew I had to find out more.<br><br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I
almost fell in on them I was eavesdropping so close, but =<br>
one of them caught me and invited me in.&nbsp; That's when I found out
they =<br>
were at one time all from the same town and were meeting back at this
=<br>
hotel as a sort of semi-annual reunion. I could see why they would make
=<br>
the effort because they indeed had something special going
here.<br><br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; When I
asked them why they were still meeting, I received a =<br>
litany of divorce, cancer, dead husbands, and lost children that would
=<br>
have kept a sitcom supplied with material for more seasons than Friends
=<br>
ever dreamed of.&nbsp; There was history behind those belly laughs.&nbsp;
There =<br>
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stamp.&nbsp; =<br>
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Pentecostal, and two who named no church affiliation, yet I couldn't
=<br>
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=<br>
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=<br>
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how =<br>
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=<br>
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been =<br>
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laughs =<br>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; What
held these women together wasn't just a religious =<br>
experience, it was their shared human experiences as well, their love
=<br>
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character come out of the box where I would wager it stays most of the
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=<br>
stark honesty, love, acceptance, and refusal to judge one another. It
=<br>
requires needing and serving one another.&nbsp; This is something we all
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Not long ago I spent three = days in a=20 hotel in rural Indiana.&nbsp;
In the lobby of my hotel was a = group=20 of six women who spent the
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I almost fell in on them I = was=20 eavesdropping so close, but one of
them caught me and = invited me=20 in.&nbsp; That=92s when I found out
they were at one time = all from the=20 same town and were meeting back
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would make the = effort=20 because they indeed had something special
going = here.<br><br>
When I asked them why they = were still=20 meeting, I received a litany
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kept a sitcom supplied with = material=20 for more seasons than Friends
ever dreamed of.&nbsp; There = was=20 history behind those belly
laughs.&nbsp; There was an = obvious=20 spiritual center to this group,
but not a rubber = stamp.&nbsp; There=20 was a Roman Catholic, a southern
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affiliation, yet I = couldn=92t=20 help thinking that they were having
church there, and it was = a=20 church I wouldn=92t mind joining.
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about how she didn=92t look a day = over=20 sixty-five. That=92s when one
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you think she=92s been trying to = thread that=20 needle for the last 15
minutes!=94&nbsp; Belly laughs = followed with=20 birthday girl, the
loudest. <br><br>
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respect for each other and their = ability to=20 let each other=92s
character come out of the box where I = would wager=20 it stays most of
the time when they are not together like = this.=20 <br><br>
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I realized I could have it = too.&nbsp; It=20 requires commitment, stark
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        Hi Everyone,

I'm sending a message just to test my email, so I know this email isn't
going to a junk mailbox or through the spam filter.

Thanks.

Lovings!
Pat Ferguson
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Hey Pat,
Your message is coming through loud and clear!
Kathy

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I got it o'kay.


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> Hi Everyone,
>
> I'm sending a message just to test my email, so I know this email isn't
> going to a junk mailbox or through the spam filter.
>
> Thanks.
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> Lovings!
> Pat Ferguson
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Lovings lovings lovings!!!  Smile!

Littlekat
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        Hi Everyone,

I'm sending a message just to test my email, so I know this email isn't
going to a junk mailbox or through the spam filter.

Thanks.

Lovings!
Pat Ferguson
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Hi Guys,
        Well, it's a Saturday, but the electrician is here getting us
wired.  So far, the siding is almost completed and the walls are all
framed in.  The windows are installed and the doors.  The plumber is
expected to show up sometime in the near future as well.  Actually, the
workers have been expecting him since last Wednesday, so who knows.  When
the plumber and electrician are finished, I think that the insulation and
dry wall can begin, but even now, it's easy to tell where the rooms are
and the closets and so forth.  Yesterday, Greg and I took a measuring
tape out to our room and started planning where the bed would go and the
bedside tables, just for fun.  Also, yesterday, because the workers don't
come on Friday, and the house was  empty, I took a cup of coffee out
there just to sit in my new room, alone, for a while.  It didn't last for
very long.  Honey and Caleb found me, but that's the way it will always
be and has always been, so I'm used to it.
        Matt is still looking for work so please keep him in your
prayers!
God bless,
Kathy

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Date:         Sat, 21 Aug 2004 06:35:59 -0600
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Kathy,

Thanks for the good report.  I was just going to ask if you could visualize
the insides in your mind yet.  How exciting.  Cup of coffee on your own
sounds good, even if short lived.

Vicki

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Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 6:14 AM
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> Hi Guys,
>         Well, it's a Saturday, but the electrician is here getting us
> wired.  So far, the siding is almost completed and the walls are all
> framed in.  The windows are installed and the doors.  The plumber is
> expected to show up sometime in the near future as well.  Actually, the
> workers have been expecting him since last Wednesday, so who knows.  When
> the plumber and electrician are finished, I think that the insulation and
> dry wall can begin, but even now, it's easy to tell where the rooms are
> and the closets and so forth.  Yesterday, Greg and I took a measuring
> tape out to our room and started planning where the bed would go and the
> bedside tables, just for fun.  Also, yesterday, because the workers don't
> come on Friday, and the house was  empty, I took a cup of coffee out
> there just to sit in my new room, alone, for a while.  It didn't last for
> very long.  Honey and Caleb found me, but that's the way it will always
> be and has always been, so I'm used to it.
>         Matt is still looking for work so please keep him in your
> prayers!
> God bless,
> Kathy
>
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Date:         Sat, 21 Aug 2004 08:48:17 -0400
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Yah Vicki,
It's pretty amazing.  The head of the crew told Greg last week that it
could still be another 8 weeks though.  I guess that detail work takes
time, but I hope that he was wrong.  At least it's a lot easier now to
believe that it's really going to happen.  I walk through the place as it
is now and I am in just total awe that God has been so kind to let us
have a better place.  I walk through the house, even as it is and all I
can think about is how amazing God is and how blessed we are.  It is so
humbling.  We have so much compared to so many.  I just pray that we can
use this latest tool for His glory.
Kathy

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Date:         Sat, 21 Aug 2004 09:40:28 -0400
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Talk about luxury:.  Every room will be wired for cable and phone.  The
computer age has definitely impacted the housing industry.  Brother!
Kathy

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Date:         Sat, 21 Aug 2004 09:33:55 -0600
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Kathy,

Could you ask that electrician to turn your voltage down a little before he
is finished?

Phil.
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LOL!  I wondered what happened there.  I couldn't make anything of it.  It literally froze my Freedombox software, and since I'm in Linux, that's very rare for Linux to crash.  Fraid I won't be able to clean this one up Kathy.  LOL!  I may be good, but I'm not that good.  Thanks for the complement though.  ROFL!  I even tried to bring the message up in Pine, and it was still quite a mess.  Who knows, and really I don't know that much anymore about Outlook Express, or Eudora, as I've been out of the windows world for so long now.  I still have win xp, but I really don't use it unless I have to.

Anyway, take care, and may God help all you Windows users, LOL!  Smile:  just kidding.


Chris.

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Date:         Sat, 21 Aug 2004 14:01:14 -0400
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Wo!  they actually make glow-in-the-dark casts for kids?  How cool!

Chris.

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Date:         Sat, 21 Aug 2004 14:06:09 -0400
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Pat, I got your mail.  Sorry I'm a bit behind.  No, I'm not in Lotus notes right now, still having trouble.  I'm in the Freedombox in Linux right now.

Take care.

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Alright that is great news Kathy.  I always wanted to build my own home but God gave me this one and I love it.  I would like to move it to some land,  But if God needs it to be here that is okay too.  That is exciting news.  Keep us informed


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-------------- Original message --------------

> Hi Guys,
> Well, it's a Saturday, but the electrician is here getting us
> wired. So far, the siding is almost completed and the walls are all
> framed in. The windows are installed and the doors. The plumber is
> expected to show up sometime in the near future as well. Actually, the
> workers have been expecting him since last Wednesday, so who knows. When
> the plumber and electrician are finished, I think that the insulation and
> dry wall can begin, but even now, it's easy to tell where the rooms are
> and the closets and so forth. Yesterday, Greg and I took a measuring
> tape out to our room and started planning where the bed would go and the
> bedside tables, just for fun. Also, yesterday, because the workers don't
> come on Friday, and the house was empty, I took a cup of coffee out
> there just to sit in my new room, alone, for a while. It didn't last for
> very long. Honey and Caleb found me, but that's the way it will always
> be and has always been, so I'm used to it.
> Matt is still looking for work so please keep him in your
> prayers!
> God bless,
> Kathy
>
> ________________________________________________________________
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Alright that is great news Kathy.&nbsp; I always wanted to build my own home but God gave me this one and I love it.&nbsp; I would like to move it to some land,&nbsp; But if God needs it to be here that is okay too.&nbsp; That is exciting news.&nbsp; Keep us informed<BR><BR>
<DIV class=signature id=signature>--<BR>In any kind of circumstance PRAY <BR><BR>Karen Carter 74'</DIV><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR><BR>&gt; Hi Guys, <BR>&gt; Well, it's a Saturday, but the electrician is here getting us <BR>&gt; wired. So far, the siding is almost completed and the walls are all <BR>&gt; framed in. The windows are installed and the doors. The plumber is <BR>&gt; expected to show up sometime in the near future as well. Actually, the <BR>&gt; workers have been expecting him since last Wednesday, so who knows. When <BR>&gt; the plumber and electrician are finished, I think that the insulation and <BR>&gt; dry wall can begin, but even now, it's easy to tell where the rooms are <BR>&gt; and the closets and so forth. Yesterday, Greg and I took a measuring <BR>&gt; tape out to our room and started planning where the bed would go and the <BR>&gt; bedside tables, just for fun. Also, yesterday, because the workers don't <BR>&gt; come on Friday, and the house was empty, I took a cup of coffee out <BR>&gt; there just to sit in my new room, alone, for a while. It didn't last for <BR>&gt; very long. Honey and Caleb found me, but that's the way it will always <BR>&gt; be and has always been, so I'm used to it. <BR>&gt; Matt is still looking for work so please keep him in your <BR>&gt; prayers! <BR>&gt; God bless, <BR>&gt; Kathy <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; ________________________________________________________________ <BR>&gt; The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! <BR>&gt; Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! <BR>&gt; Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! </BLOCKQUOTE></body></html>

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Amen Kathy.


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> Yah Vicki,
> It's pretty amazing. The head of the crew told Greg last week that it
> could still be another 8 weeks though. I guess that detail work takes
> time, but I hope that he was wrong. At least it's a lot easier now to
> believe that it's really going to happen. I walk through the place as it
> is now and I am in just total awe that God has been so kind to let us
> have a better place. I walk through the house, even as it is and all I
> can think about is how amazing God is and how blessed we are. It is so
> humbling. We have so much compared to so many. I just pray that we can
> use this latest tool for His glory.
> Kathy
>
> ________________________________________________________________
> The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!
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Amen Kathy.&nbsp; <BR><BR>
<DIV class=signature id=signature>--<BR>In any kind of circumstance PRAY <BR><BR>Karen Carter 74'</DIV><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR><BR>&gt; Yah Vicki, <BR>&gt; It's pretty amazing. The head of the crew told Greg last week that it <BR>&gt; could still be another 8 weeks though. I guess that detail work takes <BR>&gt; time, but I hope that he was wrong. At least it's a lot easier now to <BR>&gt; believe that it's really going to happen. I walk through the place as it <BR>&gt; is now and I am in just total awe that God has been so kind to let us <BR>&gt; have a better place. I walk through the house, even as it is and all I <BR>&gt; can think about is how amazing God is and how blessed we are. It is so <BR>&gt; humbling. We have so much compared to so many. I just pray that we can <BR>&gt; use this latest tool for His glory. <BR>&gt; Kathy <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; ________________________________________________________________ <BR>&gt; The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! <BR>&gt; Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! <BR>&gt; Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! </BLOCKQUOTE></body></html>

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Alright Kathy,  that means the kids can have their own tiv's and you watch what you want.  Not that there is anything on worth watching.  I always watch christian tv, animal plantin discovery, food station hgtv and A&E once in a while.


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> Talk about luxury:. Every room will be wired for cable and phone. The
> computer age has definitely impacted the housing industry. Brother!
> Kathy
>
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Alright Kathy,&nbsp; that means the kids can have their own tiv's and you watch what you want.&nbsp; Not that there is anything on worth watching.&nbsp; I always watch christian tv, animal plantin discovery, food station hgtv and A&amp;E once in a while.&nbsp; <BR><BR>
<DIV class=signature id=signature>--<BR>In any kind of circumstance PRAY <BR><BR>Karen Carter 74'</DIV><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR><BR>&gt; Talk about luxury:. Every room will be wired for cable and phone. The <BR>&gt; computer age has definitely impacted the housing industry. Brother! <BR>&gt; Kathy <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; ________________________________________________________________ <BR>&gt; The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! <BR>&gt; Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! <BR>&gt; Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! </BLOCKQUOTE></body></html>

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Date:         Sat, 21 Aug 2004 14:54:14 -0600
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Kathy,

I can't believe you let my comment go by without responding.  Are you
feeling ok?

Phil.
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Was he on evoice years ago?

Cecily

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Brad,

I'm praying for Bernard and his loving wife.

I do apologize that I do not have Yahoo instant messenging. I should get
it, though.

Please tell him and his wife that they are loving!

Love and Blessings,
Pat Ferguson



At 11:03 AM 8/17/04, you wrote:
>I spoke with Bernard today. Apparently there are two health issues. One
>being Osteoporosis which is deteriorating/weakening the bones, you know
>what Osteoporosis does. The other is  dealing with kidney and liver in the
>beginning stages of failure. The blood tests will come back in a couple
>weeks. He has asked for prayer for a good report/healing, his ability to
>handle things as head of house, the ability to work through this as he
>still has some health issues himself. When these  challenges come into our
>lives, it is easy to let fear rule, and fear can do all sort of things, so
>please pray for peace of mind and  unity in direction of wisdom in what to
>do in case healing is not immediately forthcoming.
>
>Pat. Bernard doesn't have MSN but does Yahoo Message. If you do that I can
>give him your info.
>
>Brad
>
>
>Brad
>
>    To forgive is to set the prisoner free, and then discover the prisoner
>was you
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Oooo! boy!  But that will be really nice!

Vicki

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Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 7:40 AM
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> Talk about luxury:.  Every room will be wired for cable and phone.  The
> computer age has definitely impacted the housing industry.  Brother!
> Kathy
>
> ________________________________________________________________
> The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!
> Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!
> Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!
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Date:         Sat, 21 Aug 2004 18:09:16 -0600
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I know you will.  And what a blessing.  Thanksgiving won't be too far away.
Sounds to me like it's already happening.  Giggle.
Vicki

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Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 6:48 AM
Subject: Re: Housing progress


> Yah Vicki,
> It's pretty amazing.  The head of the crew told Greg last week that it
> could still be another 8 weeks though.  I guess that detail work takes
> time, but I hope that he was wrong.  At least it's a lot easier now to
> believe that it's really going to happen.  I walk through the place as it
> is now and I am in just total awe that God has been so kind to let us
> have a better place.  I walk through the house, even as it is and all I
> can think about is how amazing God is and how blessed we are.  It is so
> humbling.  We have so much compared to so many.  I just pray that we can
> use this latest tool for His glory.
> Kathy
>
> ________________________________________________________________
> The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!
> Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!
> Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!
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Date:         Sat, 21 Aug 2004 20:02:29 -0400
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Philm,
You told me to have him turn down the voltage!  See, you don't like it
when I'm quiet either!  GRin!  Actually, I didn't even get your note
until probably twelve hours after you wrote it.  My son, Chris, has
discovered playing StarCraft on line.  Goodness, if it isn't one thing
with that boy it is another!  Anyway, the only computer that is hooked up
with the internet is mine so I got kicked off so that my son could defend
the universe, or something like that.  Thankfully, he is talking about
saving up for a computer after he pays for drivers Ed. so this will
hopefully be a short term inconvenience and with every room wired in my
new snazy house, he can pay for his own internet hook up too and leave me
alone!  GRIN!!  Oh brother.  then I'll have to begin worrying about other
problems with him.
        Well guys, that's the latest news from Lake Woe Begone, and may
the force be with you!  GRIN!
Kathy

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Date:         Sat, 21 Aug 2004 20:05:11 -0400
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Actually Karen, We don't watch TV very much and we are planning to put
our TV in the basement, but we've allowed the plans to have every room
wired proceed to increase the resale value.  Pastor's aren't know for
holding on to housing very long so we need to be forward thinking people.
Kathy

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Date:         Sat, 21 Aug 2004 20:08:28 -0400
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Hey guys, I"ve done it!  I've successfully sent the information about
echurch to another person!  Yea!  As most of you know, this is an amazing
accomplishment for someone who is as computer illiterate as me.  Anyway,
Karen, feel free to introduce yourself as you wish.  I just want to tell
people that you and I attended the same school, though you were a bit
ahead of me.  These people are great.  Hope you feel welcome here really
fast!
Kathy

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Date:         Sat, 21 Aug 2004 18:30:07 -0600
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Welcome Karen.  Feel free to jump right in here as soon as you are able.
Glad you have such a good friend as Kathy.

Vicki

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Subject: Introducing Karen


> Hey guys, I"ve done it!  I've successfully sent the information about
> echurch to another person!  Yea!  As most of you know, this is an amazing
> accomplishment for someone who is as computer illiterate as me.  Anyway,
> Karen, feel free to introduce yourself as you wish.  I just want to tell
> people that you and I attended the same school, though you were a bit
> ahead of me.  These people are great.  Hope you feel welcome here really
> fast!
> Kathy
>
> ________________________________________________________________
> The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!
> Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!
> Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!
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Smart thinking.  There is not nothing to watch now days anyways.  Well hopefully you can stay there a while and enjoy the home.  That is if you want to.


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> Actually Karen, We don't watch TV very much and we are planning to put
> our TV in the basement, but we've allowed the plans to have every room
> wired proceed to increase the resale value. Pastor's aren't know for
> holding on to housing very long so we need to be forward thinking people.
> Kathy
>
> ________________________________________________________________
> The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!
> Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!
> Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!
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Smart thinking.&nbsp; There is not nothing to watch now days anyways.&nbsp; Well hopefully you can stay there a while and enjoy the home.&nbsp; That is if you want to.&nbsp; <BR><BR>
<DIV class=signature id=signature>--<BR>In any kind of circumstance PRAY <BR><BR>Karen Carter 74'</DIV><BR>
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Thank you Kathy.  I have already recieved a few e-mails through the group not to me but the group and have enjoyed them.  I graduated in 1974 from Mich Sch f/t Blind.  I have had various jobs no on my chosing but every job I have obtained has been down sized.  So I am presently looking for work and taking ministry classes threw Destiny School of Ministry out or Roseville MI.  We have a satalite school here in Lansing at my church.  Hopefully this will land me something.  I am a singer and have made a few recording but nothing yet.  Hope to get to know all of you and thank you for allowing me to be in the group.


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> Hey guys, I"ve done it! I've successfully sent the information about
> echurch to another person! Yea! As most of you know, this is an amazing
> accomplishment for someone who is as computer illiterate as me. Anyway,
> Karen, feel free to introduce yourself as you wish. I just want to tell
> people that you and I attended the same school, though you were a bit
> ahead of me. These people are great. Hope you feel welcome here really
> fast!
> Kathy
>
> ________________________________________________________________
> The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!
> Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!
> Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!
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Thank you Kathy.&nbsp; I have already recieved a few e-mails through the group not to me but the group and have enjoyed them.&nbsp; I graduated in 1974 from Mich Sch f/t Blind.&nbsp; I have had various jobs no on my chosing but every job I have obtained has been down sized.&nbsp; So I am presently looking for work and taking ministry classes threw Destiny School of Ministry out or Roseville MI.&nbsp; We have a satalite school here in Lansing at my church.&nbsp; Hopefully this will land me something.&nbsp; I am a singer and have made a few recording but nothing yet.&nbsp; Hope to get to know all of you and thank you for allowing me to be in the group. <BR><BR>
<DIV class=signature id=signature>--<BR>In any kind of circumstance PRAY <BR><BR>Karen Carter 74'</DIV><BR>
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Phil,
What was that about my bragging about achieving something on the
computer?  Sorry I got your name wrong.  I have no idea where that M came
from.  Maybe I just reset the voltage too high!  Philm!  Indeed.
Kathy

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Hi Everyone,
Well it has been one day short of two months since I have been with you =
and I have sure missed you, but I have had a crazy summer thus far.
First of all, on June 22, my computer was either hit by a power surge, =
or lightning--I don't know what.  Or it may have just been =
cooincidental.  The crazy thing is that nothing else plugged into the =
outlet bar was damaged.  There wasn't even a burned out smell from the =
laptop.
The bad thing is that I had let my warrantee lapse with dell just the =
week before.  The wanted to sell me one for $200 to cover two years, and =
I said no.  To fix the mother board without the warrantee would have =
been $850.   the computer was three years old anyway, so I decided to =
get a computer that could work with xp.
As I was shopping around, my church community where I live, an d another =
neighboring church gave me enough money to buy a new computer and =
upgrade my window-eyes.  How the Lord provides.

Now, if you are folling this so far, here comes the twist in the story.
I had a very close friend in Alaska, who is also blind, Paul =
Fitzpatrick.  When my computer blew, I phoned him and told him about it. =
 Previous to this phone call, Paul and I had kind of drifted apart in =
our relationship.  Basically, the reason for that was that he couldn't =
understand why I was not a techie like he was, and I guess he was tired =
of my asking him what to do and how to fix computer situations that I =
would get into.
Anyway, Paul and I had the best talk we had had in a long time, and when =
I hung up, I almost felt high with joy that we had such good =
communication.  So he told me what I needed in a new computer Etc. Etc.
One month ago today on July 21st, a mutual minister for Paul and I came =
to my house and told me that Paul had suddenly gone to be with the Lord =
du to a massive heart attack.  He had been having some health problems, =
but the doctors never diagnosed them correctly.
So my wife and I drove up to Haines Alaska for the memorial service.  =
Well, he had tons and tons of braille things, and no one knew what they =
were, or what to do with them, so I stayed for a week to sort through  I =
had a time deadline so it was quite an exhausting week.
So in all that, it makes me think that the Lord allowed that destroyed =
computer so I could call Paul and have such a great talk with him.  So =
what do you guys think?

Anyway, it's good to be back.  Any of you hear from Carol and Gail?

God bless.
Love to all,
Vinny
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I said=20
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another=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Now, if you are folling this so far, =
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get=20
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<DIV>Anyway, Paul and I had the best talk we had had in a long time, and =
when I=20
hung up, I almost felt high with joy that we had such good =
communication.&nbsp;=20
So he told me what I needed in a new computer Etc. Etc.</DIV>
<DIV>One month ago today on July 21st, a mutual minister for Paul and I =
came to=20
my house and told me that Paul had suddenly gone to be with the Lord du =
to a=20
massive heart attack.&nbsp; He had been having some health problems, but =
the=20
doctors never diagnosed them correctly.</DIV>
<DIV>So my wife and I drove up to Haines Alaska for the memorial =
service.&nbsp;=20
Well, he had tons and tons of braille things, and no one knew what they =
were, or=20
what to do with them, so I stayed for a week to sort through&nbsp; I had =
a time=20
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<DIV>So in all that, it makes me think that the Lord allowed that =
destroyed=20
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So what=20
do you guys think?</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Anyway, it's good to be back.&nbsp; Any =
of you hear=20
from Carol and Gail?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>God bless.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Love to all,</DIV>
<DIV>Vinny</DIV></BODY></HTML>

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Hi Cathy,
Glad to hear about the progress on your house.  How is your son Chris =
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Vinny
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My Friend Paul has a braille Kjv bible, complete, and a braille Spanish =
New Testament which I could give to any of you that would be interested, =
 They are  worn, but quite readible.
Let me know.
Vinny
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that would=20
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Hi Vinnie,  God used the computer so that you and Paul could talk one more time.  Pual may have had to know that you were still good friends.  I know God works in mysterious ways.  Isn't great to know you will see him again when Jesus returns for us, or individually he will be waiting there for you with the rest of your loved ones.


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Karen Carter 74'


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> Hi Everyone,
> Well it has been one day short of two months since I have been with you =
> and I have sure missed you, but I have had a crazy summer thus far.
> First of all, on June 22, my computer was either hit by a power surge, =
> or lightning--I don't know what. Or it may have just been =
> cooincidental. The crazy thing is that nothing else plugged into the =
> outlet bar was damaged. There wasn't even a burned out smell from the =
> laptop.
> The bad thing is that I had let my warrantee lapse with dell just the =
> week before. The wanted to sell me one for $200 to cover two years, and =
> I said no. To fix the mother board without the warrantee would have =
> been $850. the computer was three years old anyway, so I decided to =
> get a computer that could work with xp.
> As I was shopping around, my church community where I live, an d another =
> neighboring church gave me enough money to buy a new computer and =
> upgrade my window-eyes. How the Lord provides.
>
> Now, if you are folling this so far, here comes the twist in the story.
> I had a very close friend in Alaska, who is also blind, Paul =
> Fitzpatrick. When my computer blew, I phoned him and told him about it. =
> Previous to this phone call, Paul and I had kind of drifted apart in =
> our relationship. Basically, the reason for that was that he couldn't =
> understand why I was not a techie like he was, and I guess he was tired =
> of my asking him what to do and how to fix computer situations that I =
> would get into.
> Anyway, Paul and I had the best talk we had had in a long time, and when =
> I hung up, I almost felt high with joy that we had such good =
> communication. So he told me what I needed in a new computer Etc. Etc.
> One month ago today on July 21st, a mutual minister for Paul and I came =
> to my house and told me that Paul had suddenly gone to be with the Lord =
> du to a massive heart attack. He had been having some health problems, =
> but the doctors never diagnosed them correctly.
> So my wife and I drove up to Haines Alaska for the memorial service. =
> Well, he had tons and tons of braille things, and no one knew what they =
> were, or what to do with them, so I stayed for a week to sort through I =
> had a time deadline so it was quite an exhausting week.
> So in all that, it makes me think that the Lord allowed that destroyed =
> computer so I could call Paul and have such a great talk with him. So =
> what do you guys think?
>
> Anyway, it's good to be back. Any of you hear from Carol and Gail?
>
> God bless.
> Love to all,
> Vinny
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>
Well it has been one day short of two months since I have been with =
> you and=20
> I have sure missed you, but I have had a crazy summer thus far.

>
First of all, on June 22, my computer was either hit by a power =
> surge, or=20
> lightning--I don't know what.  Or it may have just been=20
> cooincidental.  The crazy thing is that nothing else plugged into =
> the=20
> outlet bar was damaged.  There wasn't even a burned out smell from =
> the=20
> laptop.

>
The bad thing is that I had let my warrantee lapse with dell just =
> the week=20
> before.  The wanted to sell me one for $200 to cover two years, and =
> I said=20
> no.  To fix the mother board without the warrantee would have been=20
> $850.   the computer was three years old anyway, so I decided =
> to get a=20
> computer that could work with xp.

>
As I was shopping around, my church community where I live, an d =
> another=20
> neighboring church gave me enough money to buy a new computer and =
> upgrade my=20
> window-eyes.  How the Lord provides.

>


>
Now, if you are folling this so far, =
> here comes the=20
> twist in the story.

>
I had a very close friend in Alaska, who is also blind, Paul=20
> Fitzpatrick.  When my computer blew, I phoned him and told him =
> about=20
> it.  Previous to this phone call, Paul and I had kind of drifted =
> apart in=20
> our relationship.  Basically, the reason for that was that he =
> couldn't=20
> understand why I was not a techie like he was, and I guess he was tired =
> of my=20
> asking him what to do and how to fix computer situations that I would =
> get=20
> into.

>
Anyway, Paul and I had the best talk we had had in a long time, and =
> when I=20
> hung up, I almost felt high with joy that we had such good =
> communication. =20
> So he told me what I needed in a new computer Etc. Etc.

>
One month ago today on July 21st, a mutual minister for Paul and I =
> came to=20
> my house and told me that Paul had suddenly gone to be with the Lord du =
> to a=20
> massive heart attack.  He had been having some health problems, but =
> the=20
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>
So my wife and I drove up to Haines Alaska for the memorial =
> service. =20
> Well, he had tons and tons of braille things, and no one knew what they =
> were, or=20
> what to do with them, so I stayed for a week to sort through  I had =
> a time=20
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>
So in all that, it makes me think that the Lord allowed that =
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God bless.

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Love to all,

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Vinny

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Hi Vinnie,&nbsp; God used the computer so that you and Paul could talk one more time.&nbsp; Pual may have had to know that you were still good friends.&nbsp; I know God works in mysterious ways.&nbsp; Isn't great to know you will see him again when Jesus returns for us, or individually he will be waiting there for you with the rest of your loved ones. <BR><BR>
<DIV class=signature id=signature>--<BR>In any kind of circumstance PRAY <BR><BR>Karen Carter 74'</DIV><BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3>Hi Everyone,</FONT></DIV><BR>&gt;
<DIV>Well it has been one day short of two months since I have been with = <BR>&gt; you and=20 <BR>&gt; I have sure missed you, but I have had a crazy summer thus far.</DIV><BR>&gt;
<DIV>First of all, on June 22, my computer was either hit by a power = <BR>&gt; surge, or=20 <BR>&gt; lightning--I don't know what.&nbsp; Or it may have just been=20 <BR>&gt; cooincidental.&nbsp; The crazy thing is that nothing else plugged into = <BR>&gt; the=20 <BR>&gt; outlet bar was damaged.&nbsp; There wasn't even a burned out smell from = <BR>&gt; the=20 <BR>&gt; laptop.</DIV><BR>&gt;
<DIV>The bad thing is that I had let my warrantee lapse with dell just = <BR>&gt; the week=20 <BR>&gt; before.&nbsp; The wanted to sell me one for $200 to cover two years, and = <BR>&gt; I said=20 <BR>&gt; no.&nbsp; To fix the mother board without the warrantee would have been=20 <BR>&gt; $850.&nbsp;&nbsp; the computer was three years old anyway, so I decided = <BR>&gt; to get a=20 <BR>&gt; computer that could work with xp.</DIV><BR>&gt;
<DIV>As I was shopping around, my church community where I live, an d = <BR>&gt; another=20 <BR>&gt; neighboring church gave me enough money to buy a new computer and = <BR>&gt; upgrade my=20 <BR>&gt; window-eyes.&nbsp; How the Lord provides.</DIV><BR>&gt;
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV><BR>&gt;
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3>Now, if you are folling this so far, = <BR>&gt; here comes the=20 <BR>&gt; twist in the story.</FONT></DIV><BR>&gt;
<DIV>I had a very close friend in Alaska, who is also blind, Paul=20 <BR>&gt; Fitzpatrick.&nbsp; When my computer blew, I phoned him and told him = <BR>&gt; about=20 <BR>&gt; it.&nbsp; Previous to this phone call, Paul and I had kind of drifted = <BR>&gt; apart in=20 <BR>&gt; our relationship.&nbsp; Basically, the reason for that was that he = <BR>&gt; couldn't=20 <BR>&gt; understand why I was not a techie like he was, and I guess he was tired = <BR>&gt; of my=20 <BR>&gt; asking him what to do and how to fix computer situations that I would = <BR>&gt; get=20 <BR>&gt; into.</DIV><BR>&gt;
<DIV>Anyway, Paul and I had the best talk we had had in a long time, and = <BR>&gt; when I=20 <BR>&gt; hung up, I almost felt high with joy that we had such good = <BR>&gt; communication.&nbsp;=20 <BR>&gt; So he told me what I needed in a new computer Etc. Etc.</DIV><BR>&gt;
<DIV>One month ago today on July 21st, a mutual minister for Paul and I = <BR>&gt; came to=20 <BR>&gt; my house and told me that Paul had suddenly gone to be with the Lord du = <BR>&gt; to a=20 <BR>&gt; massive heart attack.&nbsp; He had been having some health problems, but = <BR>&gt; the=20 <BR>&gt; doctors never diagnosed them correctly.</DIV><BR>&gt;
<DIV>So my wife and I drove up to Haines Alaska for the memorial = <BR>&gt; service.&nbsp;=20 <BR>&gt; Well, he had tons and tons of braille things, and no one knew what they = <BR>&gt; were, or=20 <BR>&gt; what to do with them, so I stayed for a week to sort through&nbsp; I had = <BR>&gt; a time=20 <BR>&gt; deadline so it was quite an exhausting week.</DIV><BR>&gt;
<DIV>So in all that, it makes me think that the Lord allowed that = <BR>&gt; destroyed=20 <BR>&gt; computer so I could call Paul and have such a great talk with him.&nbsp; = <BR>&gt; So what=20 <BR>&gt; do you guys think?</DIV><BR>&gt;
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV><BR>&gt;
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3>Anyway, it's good to be back.&nbsp; Any = <BR>&gt; of you hear=20 <BR>&gt; from Carol and Gail?</FONT></DIV><BR>&gt;
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV><BR>&gt;
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3>God bless.</FONT></DIV><BR>&gt;
<DIV>Love to all,</DIV><BR>&gt;
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Vinny,

So good to hear from you.  Thanks for updating us on the whirlwind of events
in your life this summer.  How good God is to take care of your computer
needs.  Isn't it strange how when we think the worst has happened, God turns
it in to a blessing instead.  And how wonderful to allow you to have that
uplifting conversation with your friend before his going home time.  I've
certainly an idea that there are more ore wonderful times to come between
the two of you on glory side.

Carol hasn't been on list but she has been having continuing difficulties
with her ears and back.  Her recent medical apointments have been more on
the positive side than on the negative.    So do continue to remember her in
prayer.

Haven't had an update on Gail for a while.

Vicki

Vinny wrote:
Hi Everyone,
Well it has been one day short of two months since I have been with you =
and I have sure missed you, but I have had a crazy summer thus far.
First of all, on June 22, my computer was either hit by a power surge, =
or lightning--I don't know what.  Or it may have just been =
cooincidental.  The crazy thing is that nothing else plugged into the =
outlet bar was damaged.  There wasn't even a burned out smell from the =
laptop.
The bad thing is that I had let my warrantee lapse with dell just the =
week before.  The wanted to sell me one for $200 to cover two years, and =
I said no.  To fix the mother board without the warrantee would have =
been $850.   the computer was three years old anyway, so I decided to =
get a computer that could work with xp.
As I was shopping around, my church community where I live, an d another =
neighboring church gave me enough money to buy a new computer and =
upgrade my window-eyes.  How the Lord provides.
Now, if you are folling this so far, here comes the twist in the story.
I had a very close friend in Alaska, who is also blind, Paul =
Fitzpatrick.  When my computer blew, I phoned him and told him about it. =
 Previous to this phone call, Paul and I had kind of drifted apart in =
our relationship.  Basically, the reason for that was that he couldn't =
understand why I was not a techie like he was, and I guess he was tired =
of my asking him what to do and how to fix computer situations that I =
would get into.
Anyway, Paul and I had the best talk we had had in a long time, and when =
I hung up, I almost felt high with joy that we had such good =
communication.  So he told me what I needed in a new computer Etc. Etc.
One month ago today on July 21st, a mutual minister for Paul and I came =
to my house and told me that Paul had suddenly gone to be with the Lord =
du to a massive heart attack.  He had been having some health problems, =
but the doctors never diagnosed them correctly.
So my wife and I drove up to Haines Alaska for the memorial service.  =
Well, he had tons and tons of braille things, and no one knew what they =
were, or what to do with them, so I stayed for a week to sort through  I =
had a time deadline so it was quite an exhausting week.
So in all that, it makes me think that the Lord allowed that destroyed =
computer so I could call Paul and have such a great talk with him.  So =
what do you guys think?
Anyway, it's good to be back.  Any of you hear from Carol and Gail?
God bless.
Love to all,
Vinny
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Date:         Sat, 21 Aug 2004 23:38:53 -0600
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Sender:       Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
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From:         Sandy Scovell <[log in to unmask]>
Subject:      Re: Taylor.

Yes they do, Chris.  Today he celebrated his birthday at a pizza place since
he was unable to go on his actual birthday because of his arm.

Sandy
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Date:         Sat, 21 Aug 2004 23:42:37 -0600
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From:         Sandy Scovell <[log in to unmask]>
Subject:      Re: Introducing Karen

Kathy, wrong, I am the most computer illiterate.  I just can do what I have
to do on the computer and that's it.

Sandy
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Date:         Sat, 21 Aug 2004 23:46:15 -0600
Reply-To:     Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
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From:         Sandy Scovell <[log in to unmask]>
Subject:      Re: Introducing Karen

Karen I would also like to welcome you to this great list.  I read more than
I post but this is a great list nevertheless.

Sandy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vicki and The Rors" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: Introducing Karen


> Welcome Karen.  Feel free to jump right in here as soon as you are able.
> Glad you have such a good friend as Kathy.
>
> Vicki
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kathy Du Bois" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 6:08 PM
> Subject: Introducing Karen
>
>
> > Hey guys, I"ve done it!  I've successfully sent the information about
> > echurch to another person!  Yea!  As most of you know, this is an
amazing
> > accomplishment for someone who is as computer illiterate as me.  Anyway,
> > Karen, feel free to introduce yourself as you wish.  I just want to tell
> > people that you and I attended the same school, though you were a bit
> > ahead of me.  These people are great.  Hope you feel welcome here really
> > fast!
> > Kathy
> >
> > ________________________________________________________________
> > The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!
> > Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!
> > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!
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Date:         Sun, 22 Aug 2004 06:47:32 -0400
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From:         Kathy Du Bois <[log in to unmask]>
Subject:      Re: Whatever Happened to Vinny?
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Vinny, Wow!  What a story!  I've really missed you and I'm glad that
you're back.  Kathy

________________________________________________________________
The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!
Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!
Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!
=========================================================================
Date:         Sun, 22 Aug 2004 07:51:02 -0700
Reply-To:     Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
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Sender:       Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
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From:         Vinny Samarco <[log in to unmask]>
Subject:      Re: Introducing Karen
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hi Karen,
Welcome to this wonder group.  I have been associated with it for close to 9
years, and it has been a most enriching experience.
God bless.
Vinny
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sandy Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 10:46 PM
Subject: Re: Introducing Karen


> Karen I would also like to welcome you to this great list.  I read more
than
> I post but this is a great list nevertheless.
>
> Sandy
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Vicki and The Rors" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 6:30 PM
> Subject: Re: Introducing Karen
>
>
> > Welcome Karen.  Feel free to jump right in here as soon as you are able.
> > Glad you have such a good friend as Kathy.
> >
> > Vicki
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kathy Du Bois" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 6:08 PM
> > Subject: Introducing Karen
> >
> >
> > > Hey guys, I"ve done it!  I've successfully sent the information about
> > > echurch to another person!  Yea!  As most of you know, this is an
> amazing
> > > accomplishment for someone who is as computer illiterate as me.
Anyway,
> > > Karen, feel free to introduce yourself as you wish.  I just want to
tell
> > > people that you and I attended the same school, though you were a bit
> > > ahead of me.  These people are great.  Hope you feel welcome here
really
> > > fast!
> > > Kathy
> > >
> > > ________________________________________________________________
> > > The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!
> > > Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!
> > > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!
=========================================================================
Date:         Sun, 22 Aug 2004 14:10:45 -0700
Reply-To:     Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
              <[log in to unmask]>
Sender:       Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
              <[log in to unmask]>
From:         Vinny Samarco <[log in to unmask]>
Subject:      --Another Testing.
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
              boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0022_01C48851.D14D0230"

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C48851.D14D0230
Content-Type: text/plain;
        charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi everyone, are you still getting messages with all the junk in the =
beginning?  If so, could you  please let me know which settings to =
change so I can just send plain text.
God bless,
Love,
Vinny
------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C48851.D14D0230
Content-Type: text/html;
        charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Diso-8859-1">
<META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1458" name=3DGENERATOR>
<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi everyone, are you still getting =
messages with=20
all the junk in the beginning?&nbsp; If so, could you&nbsp; please let =
me know=20
which settings to change so I can just send plain text.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>God bless,</DIV>
<DIV>Love,</DIV>
<DIV>Vinny</DIV></BODY></HTML>

------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C48851.D14D0230--
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Date:         Sun, 22 Aug 2004 14:20:21 -0700
Reply-To:     Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
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Sender:       Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
              <[log in to unmask]>
From:         Vinny Samarco <[log in to unmask]>
Subject:      Where is the setting to set plain text in O.e?
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
              boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C48853.28917160"

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C48853.28917160
Content-Type: text/plain;
        charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


Hi Everyone, I know how to set individual addresses to plain text in =
Outlook Express, but is there a global setting?
Thanks and=20
God bless.
Love,
Vinny
------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C48853.28917160
Content-Type: text/html;
        charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Diso-8859-1">
<META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1458" name=3DGENERATOR>
<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Everyone, I know how to set =
individual addresses=20
to plain text in Outlook Express, but is there a global =
setting?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Thanks and </DIV>
<DIV>God bless.</DIV>
<DIV>Love,</DIV>
<DIV>Vinny</DIV></BODY></HTML>

------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C48853.28917160--
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Date:         Sun, 22 Aug 2004 15:25:39 -0600
Reply-To:     Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
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Sender:       Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
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From:         Vicki and The Rors <[log in to unmask]>
Subject:      Re: --Another Testing.
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Vinny,

Which e-mail program are you using?

I use  Outlook Express.  You have to go to tools, then options, then arrow
up once, and right arrow to send, then tab down through the settings and if
they have a text  value, check or select it.  I'll give you more details off
list if you need them.  You may be using another program too.  I asked on
list in case you are and someone else is familiar with your program.

Vicki

----- Original Message -----
From: "Vinny Samarco" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 3:10 PM
Subject: --Another Testing.


> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>
> ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C48851.D14D0230
> Content-Type: text/plain;
>         charset="iso-8859-1"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>
> Hi everyone, are you still getting messages with all the junk in the =
> beginning?  If so, could you  please let me know which settings to =
> change so I can just send plain text.
> God bless,
> Love,
> Vinny
> ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C48851.D14D0230
> Content-Type: text/html;
>         charset="iso-8859-1"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>
> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> <HTML><HEAD>
> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
> charset=3Diso-8859-1">
> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1458" name=3DGENERATOR>
> <STYLE></STYLE>
> </HEAD>
> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi everyone, are you still getting =
> messages with=20
> all the junk in the beginning?&nbsp; If so, could you&nbsp; please let =
> me know=20
> which settings to change so I can just send plain text.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV>God bless,</DIV>
> <DIV>Love,</DIV>
> <DIV>Vinny</DIV></BODY></HTML>
>
> ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C48851.D14D0230--
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Date:         Sun, 22 Aug 2004 17:20:27 -0700
Reply-To:     Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
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Sender:       Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
              <[log in to unmask]>
From:         Vinny Samarco <[log in to unmask]>
Subject:      Re: --Another Testing.
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hi Vicki,    I have looked throughout all the outlook express settings I
could find, and I can't find anything for turning off Html, except for new
individual addresses.  I thought there was some setting that would work, and
what makes it worse, is that I can't find the particular tutorial tape that
tells how to do this.
Vinny
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vicki and The Rors" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: --Another Testing.


> Vinny,
>
> Which e-mail program are you using?
>
> I use  Outlook Express.  You have to go to tools, then options, then arrow
> up once, and right arrow to send, then tab down through the settings and
if
> they have a text  value, check or select it.  I'll give you more details
off
> list if you need them.  You may be using another program too.  I asked on
> list in case you are and someone else is familiar with your program.
>
> Vicki
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Vinny Samarco" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 3:10 PM
> Subject: --Another Testing.
>
>
> > This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> >
> > ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C48851.D14D0230
> > Content-Type: text/plain;
> >         charset="iso-8859-1"
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> >
> > Hi everyone, are you still getting messages with all the junk in the =
> > beginning?  If so, could you  please let me know which settings to =
> > change so I can just send plain text.
> > God bless,
> > Love,
> > Vinny
> > ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C48851.D14D0230
> > Content-Type: text/html;
> >         charset="iso-8859-1"
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> >
> > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> > <HTML><HEAD>
> > <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
> > charset=3Diso-8859-1">
> > <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1458" name=3DGENERATOR>
> > <STYLE></STYLE>
> > </HEAD>
> > <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi everyone, are you still getting =
> > messages with=20
> > all the junk in the beginning?&nbsp; If so, could you&nbsp; please let =
> > me know=20
> > which settings to change so I can just send plain text.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV>God bless,</DIV>
> > <DIV>Love,</DIV>
> > <DIV>Vinny</DIV></BODY></HTML>
> >
> > ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C48851.D14D0230--
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Date:         Sun, 22 Aug 2004 20:23:12 -0400
Reply-To:     Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
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Sender:       Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
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From:         Ned Benton <[log in to unmask]>
Subject:      Re: Introducing Karen
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hi Karen,
Good to have you on the list and to know that Kathy has at least one friend!
(smile)  Well, Kathy, I am glad you are on the list too and thankful for the
progress of the house.
Karen, feel free to jump right in here: we are all just home folks and love
the Lord.   We also love those who love the Lord.  We are here to share with
you and one another in prayer, Bible study and in any other way we can
serve.

May you be blessed by being here and may we together bring God glory.

Ned
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Date:         Sun, 22 Aug 2004 20:32:07 -0400
Reply-To:     Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
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Sender:       Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
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From:         Ned Benton <[log in to unmask]>
Subject:      Re: Whatever Happened to Vinny?
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Vinny,
It is so good to hear from you again.  We have certainly missed you around
here for the last two months.  Since you were here, Phil has had sleep
studies and some strange dreams during that time, Kathy practically has a
house, Karey is back with us, Shellly is training with her guide dog, I have
gone through four drivers this summer and winter is on the way.
I believe that God made it possible for you to talk with your friend Paul
before his leaving this world.  Praise Him that you had that conversation
with Paul.

Welcome back and keep us informed.

Ned
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Date:         Sun, 22 Aug 2004 17:48:28 -0700
Reply-To:     Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
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Sender:       Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
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From:         Vinny Samarco <[log in to unmask]>
Subject:      Let's try this again.
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hi Vicki,
Ok, I found it.  Under tools, options, tab over to send, and tab to all the
things it says about Html and Plain Text.  Uncheck everything about html and
check plain text.  Let's see if it works.  If it doesn't it's either my
program's fault, or the server's fault.
Vinny
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Date:         Sun, 22 Aug 2004 21:24:11 -0400
Reply-To:     Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
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Sender:       Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
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From:         Ned Benton <[log in to unmask]>
Subject:      Re: Let's try this again.
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Vinny,
It worked!!!

Ned
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Date:         Mon, 23 Aug 2004 01:37:30 +0000
Reply-To:     Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
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From:         Karen Carter <[log in to unmask]>
Subject:      Re: Introducing Karen
MIME-Version: 1.0
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Thank you Ned.  I look forward to e-mailing and getting to know all of you in the group.  And I am especially glad that it is a group that glorifies Jesus our King.


--
In any kind of circumstance PRAY

Karen Carter 74'


-------------- Original message --------------

> Hi Karen,
> Good to have you on the list and to know that Kathy has at least one friend!
> (smile) Well, Kathy, I am glad you are on the list too and thankful for the
> progress of the house.
> Karen, feel free to jump right in here: we are all just home folks and love
> the Lord. We also love those who love the Lord. We are here to share with
> you and one another in prayer, Bible study and in any other way we can
> serve.
>
> May you be blessed by being here and may we together bring God glory.
>
> Ned
--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_22802_1093225050_0
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<html><body>
Thank you Ned.&nbsp; I look forward to e-mailing and getting to know all of you in the group.&nbsp; And I am especially glad that it is a group that glorifies Jesus our King.&nbsp; <BR><BR>
<DIV class=signature id=signature>--<BR>In any kind of circumstance PRAY <BR><BR>Karen Carter 74'</DIV><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR><BR>&gt; Hi Karen, <BR>&gt; Good to have you on the list and to know that Kathy has at least one friend! <BR>&gt; (smile) Well, Kathy, I am glad you are on the list too and thankful for the <BR>&gt; progress of the house. <BR>&gt; Karen, feel free to jump right in here: we are all just home folks and love <BR>&gt; the Lord. We also love those who love the Lord. We are here to share with <BR>&gt; you and one another in prayer, Bible study and in any other way we can <BR>&gt; serve. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; May you be blessed by being here and may we together bring God glory. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Ned </BLOCKQUOTE></body></html>

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Date:         Mon, 23 Aug 2004 01:40:13 +0000
Reply-To:     Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
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Sender:       Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
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From:         Karen Carter <[log in to unmask]>
Subject:      Re: Let's try this again.
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It worked on this message.


--
In any kind of circumstance PRAY

Karen Carter 74'


-------------- Original message --------------

> Hi Vicki,
> Ok, I found it. Under tools, options, tab over to send, and tab to all the
> things it says about Html and Plain Text. Uncheck everything about html and
> check plain text. Let's see if it works. If it doesn't it's either my
> program's fault, or the server's fault.
> Vinny
--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_26942_1093225213_0
Content-Type: text/html
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

<html><body>
It worked on this message. <BR><BR>
<DIV class=signature id=signature>--<BR>In any kind of circumstance PRAY <BR><BR>Karen Carter 74'</DIV><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR><BR>&gt; Hi Vicki, <BR>&gt; Ok, I found it. Under tools, options, tab over to send, and tab to all the <BR>&gt; things it says about Html and Plain Text. Uncheck everything about html and <BR>&gt; check plain text. Let's see if it works. If it doesn't it's either my <BR>&gt; program's fault, or the server's fault. <BR>&gt; Vinny </BLOCKQUOTE></body></html>

--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_26942_1093225213_0--
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Date:         Sun, 22 Aug 2004 20:01:35 -0600
Reply-To:     Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
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Sender:       Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
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From:         Vicki and The Rors <[log in to unmask]>
Subject:      Re: Let's try this again.
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Woo Hoo!!! Looks like it worked to me.  Good job Vinny!

Vicki

----- Original Message -----
From: "Vinny Samarco" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 6:48 PM
Subject: Let's try this again.


> Hi Vicki,
> Ok, I found it.  Under tools, options, tab over to send, and tab to all
the
> things it says about Html and Plain Text.  Uncheck everything about html
and
> check plain text.  Let's see if it works.  If it doesn't it's either my
> program's fault, or the server's fault.
> Vinny
=========================================================================
Date:         Sun, 22 Aug 2004 22:49:46 -0500
Reply-To:     Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
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Sender:       Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
              <[log in to unmask]>
From:         Pat Ferguson <[log in to unmask]>
Subject:      Re: Introducing Karen
Mime-Version: 1.0
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              boundary="=====================_24726343==.ALT"

--=====================_24726343==.ALT
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

Hi Karen,

I want to also welcome you to this group of loving ones. You are also loving!

I've been reading your messages, and I like them.

Take care and God Bless you.

Love and Blessings,
Pat Ferguson



At 07:32 PM 8/21/04, you wrote:
>--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_9969_1093134742_0
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>Thank you Kathy.  I have already recieved a few e-mails through the group
>not to me but the group and have enjoyed them.  I graduated in 1974 from
>Mich Sch f/t Blind.  I have had various jobs no on my chosing but every
>job I have obtained has been down sized.  So I am presently looking for
>work and taking ministry classes threw Destiny School of Ministry out or
>Roseville MI.  We have a satalite school here in Lansing at my
>church.  Hopefully this will land me something.  I am a singer and have
>made a few recording but nothing yet.  Hope to get to know all of you and
>thank you for allowing me to be in the group.
>
>
>--
>In any kind of circumstance PRAY
>
>Karen Carter 74'
>
>
>-------------- Original message --------------
>
> > Hey guys, I"ve done it! I've successfully sent the information about
> > echurch to another person! Yea! As most of you know, this is an amazing
> > accomplishment for someone who is as computer illiterate as me. Anyway,
> > Karen, feel free to introduce yourself as you wish. I just want to tell
> > people that you and I attended the same school, though you were a bit
> > ahead of me. These people are great. Hope you feel welcome here really
> > fast!
> > Kathy
> >
> > ________________________________________________________________
> > The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!
> > Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!
> > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!
>--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_9969_1093134742_0
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>
>Thank you Kathy.  I have already recieved a few e-mails through the group
>not to me but the group and have enjoyed them.  I graduated in 1974 from
>Mich Sch f/t Blind.  I have had various jobs no on my chosing but every
>job I have obtained has been down sized.  So I am presently looking for
>work and taking ministry classes threw Destiny School of Ministry out or
>Roseville MI.  We have a satalite school here in Lansing at my
>church.  Hopefully this will land me something.  I am a singer and have
>made a few recording but nothing yet.  Hope to get to know all of you and
>thank you for allowing me to be in the group.
>
>--
>In any kind of circumstance PRAY
>
>Karen Carter 74'
>
>-------------- Original message --------------
>
> > Hey guys, I"ve done it! I've successfully sent the information about
> > echurch to another person! Yea! As most of you know, this is an amazing
> > accomplishment for someone who is as computer illiterate as me. Anyway,
> > Karen, feel free to introduce yourself as you wish. I just want to tell
> > people that you and I attended the same school, though you were a bit
> > ahead of me. These people are great. Hope you feel welcome here really
> > fast!
> > Kathy
> >
> > ________________________________________________________________
> > The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!
> > Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!
> > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!
>
>
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Hi Karen,<br><br>
I want to also welcome you to this group of loving ones. You are also
loving!<br><br>
I've been reading your messages, and I like them.<br><br>
Take care and God Bless you.<br><br>
Love and Blessings,<br>
Pat Ferguson<br><br>
<br><br>
At 07:32 PM 8/21/04, you wrote:<br>
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Thank you Kathy.&nbsp; I have already recieved a few e-mails through the
group not to me but the group and have enjoyed them.&nbsp; I graduated in
1974 from Mich Sch f/t Blind.&nbsp; I have had various jobs no on my
chosing but every job I have obtained has been down sized.&nbsp; So I am
presently looking for work and taking ministry classes threw Destiny
School of Ministry out or Roseville MI.&nbsp; We have a satalite school
here in Lansing at my church.&nbsp; Hopefully this will land me
something.&nbsp; I am a singer and have made a few recording but nothing
yet.&nbsp; Hope to get to know all of you and thank you for allowing me
to be in the group.<br><br>
<br>
--<br>
In any kind of circumstance PRAY<br><br>
Karen Carter 74'<br><br>
<br>
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&gt; Hey guys, I&quot;ve done it! I've successfully sent the information
about<br>
&gt; echurch to another person! Yea! As most of you know, this is an
amazing<br>
&gt; accomplishment for someone who is as computer illiterate as me.
Anyway,<br>
&gt; Karen, feel free to introduce yourself as you wish. I just want to
tell<br>
&gt; people that you and I attended the same school, though you were a
bit<br>
&gt; ahead of me. These people are great. Hope you feel welcome here
really<br>
&gt; fast!<br>
&gt; Kathy<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;
________________________________________________________________<br>
&gt; The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!<br>
&gt; Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!<br>
&gt; Only $14.95/ month - visit
<a href="http://www.juno.com/" eudora="autourl">www.juno.com</a> to sign
up today!<br>
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Thank you Kathy.&nbsp; I have already recieved a few e-mails through the
group not to me but the group and have enjoyed them.&nbsp; I graduated in
1974 from Mich Sch f/t Blind.&nbsp; I have had various jobs no on my
chosing but every job I have obtained has been down sized.&nbsp; So I am
presently looking for work and taking ministry classes threw Destiny
School of Ministry out or Roseville MI.&nbsp; We have a satalite school
here in Lansing at my church.&nbsp; Hopefully this will land me
something.&nbsp; I am a singer and have made a few recording but nothing
yet.&nbsp; Hope to get to know all of you and thank you for allowing me
to be in the group. <br><br>
--<br>
In any kind of circumstance PRAY <br><br>
Karen Carter 74'<br><br>

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<dd>&gt; Hey guys, I&quot;ve done it! I've successfully sent the
information about <br>

<dd>&gt; echurch to another person! Yea! As most of you know, this is an
amazing <br>

<dd>&gt; accomplishment for someone who is as computer illiterate as me.
Anyway, <br>

<dd>&gt; Karen, feel free to introduce yourself as you wish. I just want
to tell <br>

<dd>&gt; people that you and I attended the same school, though you were
a bit <br>

<dd>&gt; ahead of me. These people are great. Hope you feel welcome here
really <br>

<dd>&gt; fast! <br>

<dd>&gt; Kathy <br>

<dd>&gt; <br>

<dd>&gt; ________________________________________________________________
<br>

<dd>&gt; The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!
<br>

<dd>&gt; Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! <br>

<dd>&gt; Only $14.95/ month - visit
<a href="http://www.juno.com/" eudora="autourl">www.juno.com</a> to sign
up today! <br>
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Date:         Sun, 22 Aug 2004 23:31:40 -0500
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No that was a different Bernard *smile*.

Brad


Cecily Ballenger wrote:
>Was he on evoice years ago?
>
>Cecily
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Pat Ferguson
>Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 9:46 AM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Bernard prayer request update
>
>Brad,
>
>I'm praying for Bernard and his loving wife.
>
>I do apologize that I do not have Yahoo instant messenging. I should get
>it, though.
>
>Please tell him and his wife that they are loving!
>
>Love and Blessings,
>Pat Ferguson
>
>
>
>At 11:03 AM 8/17/04, you wrote:
> >I spoke with Bernard today. Apparently there are two health issues. One
> >being Osteoporosis which is deteriorating/weakening the bones, you know
> >what Osteoporosis does. The other is  dealing with kidney and liver in the
> >beginning stages of failure. The blood tests will come back in a couple
> >weeks. He has asked for prayer for a good report/healing, his ability to
> >handle things as head of house, the ability to work through this as he
> >still has some health issues himself. When these  challenges come into our
> >lives, it is easy to let fear rule, and fear can do all sort of things, so
> >please pray for peace of mind and  unity in direction of wisdom in what to
> >do in case healing is not immediately forthcoming.
> >
> >Pat. Bernard doesn't have MSN but does Yahoo Message. If you do that I can
> >give him your info.
> >
> >Brad
> >
> >
> >Brad
> >
> >    To forgive is to set the prisoner free, and then discover the prisoner
> >was you

Brad

   The church is prayer-conditioned
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Welcome Karen. Although I have to say if you are a friend of Kathy's...
we'll be keeping an eye on you as wellhahahaha. Welcome, and no need to
thank us for letting you be part of the group. It is not an exclusive one,
we're all missfits of this world with one common ground, we're believers.

Brad




Karen Carter wrote:
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>Thank you Kathy.  I have already recieved a few e-mails through the group
>not to me but the group and have enjoyed them.  I graduated in 1974 from
>Mich Sch f/t Blind.  I have had various jobs no on my chosing but every
>job I have obtained has been down sized.  So I am presently looking for
>work and taking ministry classes threw Destiny School of Ministry out or
>Roseville MI.  We have a satalite school here in Lansing at my
>church.  Hopefully this will land me something.  I am a singer and have
>made a few recording but nothing yet.  Hope to get to know all of you and
>thank you for allowing me to be in the group.
>
>
>--
>In any kind of circumstance PRAY
>
>Karen Carter 74'
>
>
>-------------- Original message --------------
>
> > Hey guys, I"ve done it! I've successfully sent the information about
> > echurch to another person! Yea! As most of you know, this is an amazing
> > accomplishment for someone who is as computer illiterate as me. Anyway,
> > Karen, feel free to introduce yourself as you wish. I just want to tell
> > people that you and I attended the same school, though you were a bit
> > ahead of me. These people are great. Hope you feel welcome here really
> > fast!
> > Kathy
> >
> > ________________________________________________________________
> > The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!
> > Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!
> > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!
>--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_9969_1093134742_0
>Content-Type: text/html
>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
>
>Thank you Kathy.  I have already recieved a few e-mails through the group
>not to me but the group and have enjoyed them.  I graduated in 1974 from
>Mich Sch f/t Blind.  I have had various jobs no on my chosing but every
>job I have obtained has been down sized.  So I am presently looking for
>work and taking ministry classes threw Destiny School of Ministry out or
>Roseville MI.  We have a satalite school here in Lansing at my
>church.  Hopefully this will land me something.  I am a singer and have
>made a few recording but nothing yet.  Hope to get to know all of you and
>thank you for allowing me to be in the group.
>
>--
>In any kind of circumstance PRAY
>
>Karen Carter 74'
>
>-------------- Original message --------------
>
> > Hey guys, I"ve done it! I've successfully sent the information about
> > echurch to another person! Yea! As most of you know, this is an amazing
> > accomplishment for someone who is as computer illiterate as me. Anyway,
> > Karen, feel free to introduce yourself as you wish. I just want to tell
> > people that you and I attended the same school, though you were a bit
> > ahead of me. These people are great. Hope you feel welcome here really
> > fast!
> > Kathy
> >
> > ________________________________________________________________
> > The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!
> > Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!
> > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!
>
>
>--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_9969_1093134742_0--

Brad

   People want to see a move of God, while God wants to see a move of people
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Hi, all.  I figure the above subject line would help us keep track of what
prayer request and from whom we were dealing with.  <grin>

This past Friday I found a tiny lump in my breast.  I thought at first I
was being a hypochondriac, because I've had two co-workers develop breast
cancer.  One caught it early and is okay, since it didn't affect her lymph
nodes.  The other wasn't so lucky, in that her cancer spread, and the
prognosis doesn't look good.  Anyway, I kept looking at the lump, which I'd
sometimes find easily and other times not at all, wondering if it was my
imagination.  Finally last night I told my husband about it and showed him
the spot, and he felt it too.  It seems to be near the surface, and doesn't
seem to be attached to anything, so we're hoping it's just a cyst.  But I
have an appoihntment on Tuesday to have it checked out, so pray that I have
peace about the situation until then, and that God gives the doctor wisdom
in how to deal with it.  Thanks.

Peggy



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Date:         Mon, 23 Aug 2004 00:17:33 -0500
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vinnie! Welcome back. I'm sorry to hear of your friend, that is to say
sorry for you and those who knew him and will have need to go on without
his company and friendship, but glad for him as he seems to have known the
Lord and now praising him forever more. Seems you've been blessed over the
summer and glad to have you back on list too.

Brad




Vinny Samarco wrote:
>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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>Hi Everyone,
>Well it has been one day short of two months since I have been with you =
>and I have sure missed you, but I have had a crazy summer thus far.
>First of all, on June 22, my computer was either hit by a power surge, =
>or lightning--I don't know what.  Or it may have just been =
>cooincidental.  The crazy thing is that nothing else plugged into the =
>outlet bar was damaged.  There wasn't even a burned out smell from the =
>laptop.
>The bad thing is that I had let my warrantee lapse with dell just the =
>week before.  The wanted to sell me one for $200 to cover two years, and =
>I said no.  To fix the mother board without the warrantee would have =
>been $850.   the computer was three years old anyway, so I decided to =
>get a computer that could work with xp.
>As I was shopping around, my church community where I live, an d another =
>neighboring church gave me enough money to buy a new computer and =
>upgrade my window-eyes.  How the Lord provides.
>
>Now, if you are folling this so far, here comes the twist in the story.
>I had a very close friend in Alaska, who is also blind, Paul =
>Fitzpatrick.  When my computer blew, I phoned him and told him about it. =
>  Previous to this phone call, Paul and I had kind of drifted apart in =
>our relationship.  Basically, the reason for that was that he couldn't =
>understand why I was not a techie like he was, and I guess he was tired =
>of my asking him what to do and how to fix computer situations that I =
>would get into.
>Anyway, Paul and I had the best talk we had had in a long time, and when =
>I hung up, I almost felt high with joy that we had such good =
>communication.  So he told me what I needed in a new computer Etc. Etc.
>One month ago today on July 21st, a mutual minister for Paul and I came =
>to my house and told me that Paul had suddenly gone to be with the Lord =
>du to a massive heart attack.  He had been having some health problems, =
>but the doctors never diagnosed them correctly.
>So my wife and I drove up to Haines Alaska for the memorial service.  =
>Well, he had tons and tons of braille things, and no one knew what they =
>were, or what to do with them, so I stayed for a week to sort through  I =
>had a time deadline so it was quite an exhausting week.
>So in all that, it makes me think that the Lord allowed that destroyed =
>computer so I could call Paul and have such a great talk with him.  So =
>what do you guys think?
>
>Anyway, it's good to be back.  Any of you hear from Carol and Gail?
>
>God bless.
>Love to all,
>Vinny
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>Hi Everyone,
>Well it has been one day short of two months since I have been with = you
>and=20 I have sure missed you, but I have had a crazy summer thus far.
>First of all, on June 22, my computer was either hit by a power = surge,
>or=20 lightning--I don't know what.  Or it may have just been=20
>cooincidental.  The crazy thing is that nothing else plugged into = the=20
>outlet bar was damaged.  There wasn't even a burned out smell from =
>the=20 laptop.
>The bad thing is that I had let my warrantee lapse with dell just = the
>week=20 before.  The wanted to sell me one for $200 to cover two years,
>and = I said=20 no.  To fix the mother board without the warrantee would
>have been=20 $850.   the computer was three years old anyway, so I decided
>= to get a=20 computer that could work with xp.
>As I was shopping around, my church community where I live, an d =
>another=20 neighboring church gave me enough money to buy a new computer
>and = upgrade my=20 window-eyes.  How the Lord provides.
>
>Now, if you are folling this so far, = here comes the=20 twist in the story.
>I had a very close friend in Alaska, who is also blind, Paul=20
>Fitzpatrick.  When my computer blew, I phoned him and told him = about=20
>it.  Previous to this phone call, Paul and I had kind of drifted = apart
>in=20 our relationship.  Basically, the reason for that was that he =
>couldn't=20 understand why I was not a techie like he was, and I guess he
>was tired = of my=20 asking him what to do and how to fix computer
>situations that I would = get=20 into.
>Anyway, Paul and I had the best talk we had had in a long time, and = when
>I=20 hung up, I almost felt high with joy that we had such good =
>communication. =20 So he told me what I needed in a new computer Etc. Etc.
>One month ago today on July 21st, a mutual minister for Paul and I = came
>to=20 my house and told me that Paul had suddenly gone to be with the Lord
>du = to a=20 massive heart attack.  He had been having some health
>problems, but = the=20 doctors never diagnosed them correctly.
>So my wife and I drove up to Haines Alaska for the memorial = service. =20
>Well, he had tons and tons of braille things, and no one knew what they =
>were, or=20 what to do with them, so I stayed for a week to sort
>through  I had = a time=20 deadline so it was quite an exhausting week.
>So in all that, it makes me think that the Lord allowed that =
>destroyed=20 computer so I could call Paul and have such a great talk with
>him.  = So what=20 do you guys think?
>
>Anyway, it's good to be back.  Any = of you hear=20 from Carol and Gail?
>
>God bless.
>Love to all,
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Brad

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Kathy,

Now wasn't that a peaceful time? Sipping a cup of bean in your new house?
be it completed or not, it is a great feeling isn't it? Regarding the time
of completion left? I'll mention three points.

A. This is not uncommon in contracting of homes as they usually build
several at one time to make the crews more efficient. And, even though it
is not your favorite thought to be delayed at all...

B. I'd let the contractor know you expect no more lolligagging, but I'd not
push continually as you may well be jeopardizing quality.   Being  a
roofing contractor for years I know if a customer were to continually push
for completion or just always be in the face, we'd wind up doing what we
could to get off that job and onto another. I'm not saying to let them get
away with delaying, but I'd let them know you are watching  and want it
done in a reasonable time slot. And thirdly...

C. Enjoy the journey. It isn't everyday you  have a home built and although
there is anxiety in getting into it, corral that anxiety and transform it
to a savoring of the day you walk in and all the furniture and etc is in
place and you will walk in the old one no more. The journey can also be
fun, which you seem to be making it from walking on the dirt piles to
sipping coffee in your new room.

Brad
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Date:         Mon, 23 Aug 2004 00:30:22 -0500
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Peggy,

I pray for a good report.

Brad



Peggy Kern wrote:
>Hi, all.  I figure the above subject line would help us keep track of what
>prayer request and from whom we were dealing with.  <grin>
>
>This past Friday I found a tiny lump in my breast.  I thought at first I
>was being a hypochondriac, because I've had two co-workers develop breast
>cancer.  One caught it early and is okay, since it didn't affect her lymph
>nodes.  The other wasn't so lucky, in that her cancer spread, and the
>prognosis doesn't look good.  Anyway, I kept looking at the lump, which I'd
>sometimes find easily and other times not at all, wondering if it was my
>imagination.  Finally last night I told my husband about it and showed him
>the spot, and he felt it too.  It seems to be near the surface, and doesn't
>seem to be attached to anything, so we're hoping it's just a cyst.  But I
>have an appoihntment on Tuesday to have it checked out, so pray that I have
>peace about the situation until then, and that God gives the doctor wisdom
>in how to deal with it.  Thanks.
>
>Peggy
>
>
>
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Brad

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Date:         Mon, 23 Aug 2004 06:55:17 -0400
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Sandy,At least you are making aliving with your computer.  That says
something for compitence.
Kathy

Sandy said,
Kathy, wrong, I am the most computer illiterate.  I just can do what I
have
to do on the computer and that's it.

Sandy

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Date:         Mon, 23 Aug 2004 07:00:47 -0400
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Yea Vinny, You were successful!  Kathy

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Date:         Mon, 23 Aug 2004 07:13:14 -0400
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Wow Pegggy,  I think that you're wise to get it checked out.  I'm praying
that it's nothing. Kathy

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Date:         Mon, 23 Aug 2004 07:28:20 -0400
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Hey Brad,
        for the most part, I'm at peace with the delays on the house.  I
like being able to walk through it every day and exploring each new
thing.  For example, the electrician came on Saturday and strung more
than 1,500 feet of wire and cable and phone line through the house.  It's
amazing to be able to explore that and then find this huge bundle of wire
sticking out of the basement wall  like spaghetti is just so cool.  It
really helps me to appreciate what goes into the construction of a house.
        The concerns lie in this area.  We had originally thought that
the house would be done in July so Greg had removed the skirting to the
mobile home in June and put most of the axels on already, preparing it to
be moved.  Now, we're coming in to heating season here in Maine with very
little protection from the cold.  You know how our pipes froze last
winter.  Well, now we're much more volnerable so more delay could be
almost dangerous.  Also, the mobile home is depreciating the longer it
sits here unsold and I don't need to explain that any furtherr.  We're
also having to keep insurance on both structures.  Finally, if the home
isn't done soon, the landscaping won't get done this fall which means
that we could havve really hazardous ground around the house with a lot
of ice build up and uneven surfaces.  I'm not going to be too keen on
walking around our house this winter if it continues looking the way that
it does now.
        I know that it's all in the Lord's hands.  He seems to be great
at teaching me patience.   I really need the lessons too.  We did receive
the shipment of dry wall this morning around 6:30, but they can't do much
with it before the plumber arrives and does his thing for the base board
heat.  Oh well, "all in good time my pretty, all in good time!"
Kathy

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Date:         Mon, 23 Aug 2004 05:50:25 -0600
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Amen Brad.    Glad you're reading and praying.

I'll probably be doing the same as school begins tomorrow.  And somehow I
thought the book for this semester for the Economics class was done.  Now I
find it isn't.  Can't drop this class again.  So think I will try and scan
it.  Have to get the scanner on first.

Vicki

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brad Dunse" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 10:47 PM
Subject: Re: House refi


> That is nice to know our life events are thought of by each other  off
> list. I know we all do think of each other  as our days go about, but good
> to hear it too. I'm not able to respond to many, but I read them all and
> prayerfully consider them and spend prayer time when prompted.
>
> Brad
>
>
> Vicki and The Rors wrote:
> >Awesome Brad!  Was just wondering about that the other day.  Thanks for
the
> >update.
> >
> >Vicki
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Brad Dunse" <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 9:43 PM
> >Subject: House refi
> >
> >
> > > In case anyone was interested and no need to reply. I had posted some
time
> > > ago regarding our house refi. Well after the original bank declined
it,
> > > they came back after finding an error in  their records of income with
a
> > > lower rate than originally and we signed up on  Thursday. All went
well
> >and
> > > we are off to owning the home in full after 15 years at  a fixed rate.
> >This
> > > a move  towards a specific word God gave me regarding finances. This
is
> >not
> > > his ideal solution, but I believe acceptable considering my delay in
> > > getting his first directive done in time.
> > >
> > > Brad
> > >
>
> Brad
>
>    When praying, don't give God instructions, just report for duty
>
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Date:         Mon, 23 Aug 2004 05:58:17 -0600
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Praying with you, Peggy.  Also praying God's peace for you as you get this
checked out.  Do keep us posted.

Vicki

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 11:07 PM
Subject: Prayer request from Peggy, August 22


> Hi, all.  I figure the above subject line would help us keep track of what
> prayer request and from whom we were dealing with.  <grin>
>
> This past Friday I found a tiny lump in my breast.  I thought at first I
> was being a hypochondriac, because I've had two co-workers develop breast
> cancer.  One caught it early and is okay, since it didn't affect her lymph
> nodes.  The other wasn't so lucky, in that her cancer spread, and the
> prognosis doesn't look good.  Anyway, I kept looking at the lump, which
I'd
> sometimes find easily and other times not at all, wondering if it was my
> imagination.  Finally last night I told my husband about it and showed him
> the spot, and he felt it too.  It seems to be near the surface, and
doesn't
> seem to be attached to anything, so we're hoping it's just a cyst.  But I
> have an appoihntment on Tuesday to have it checked out, so pray that I
have
> peace about the situation until then, and that God gives the doctor wisdom
> in how to deal with it.  Thanks.
>
> Peggy
>
>
>
> mailto:[log in to unmask]
> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~kernsac
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Date:         Mon, 23 Aug 2004 05:59:26 -0600
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Kathy,

Do you know when that plumber is going to arrive?

Vicki

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 5:28 AM
Subject: Re: Housing progress


> Hey Brad,
>         for the most part, I'm at peace with the delays on the house.  I
> like being able to walk through it every day and exploring each new
> thing.  For example, the electrician came on Saturday and strung more
> than 1,500 feet of wire and cable and phone line through the house.  It's
> amazing to be able to explore that and then find this huge bundle of wire
> sticking out of the basement wall  like spaghetti is just so cool.  It
> really helps me to appreciate what goes into the construction of a house.
>         The concerns lie in this area.  We had originally thought that
> the house would be done in July so Greg had removed the skirting to the
> mobile home in June and put most of the axels on already, preparing it to
> be moved.  Now, we're coming in to heating season here in Maine with very
> little protection from the cold.  You know how our pipes froze last
> winter.  Well, now we're much more volnerable so more delay could be
> almost dangerous.  Also, the mobile home is depreciating the longer it
> sits here unsold and I don't need to explain that any furtherr.  We're
> also having to keep insurance on both structures.  Finally, if the home
> isn't done soon, the landscaping won't get done this fall which means
> that we could havve really hazardous ground around the house with a lot
> of ice build up and uneven surfaces.  I'm not going to be too keen on
> walking around our house this winter if it continues looking the way that
> it does now.
>         I know that it's all in the Lord's hands.  He seems to be great
> at teaching me patience.   I really need the lessons too.  We did receive
> the shipment of dry wall this morning around 6:30, but they can't do much
> with it before the plumber arrives and does his thing for the base board
> heat.  Oh well, "all in good time my pretty, all in good time!"
> Kathy
>
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Date:         Mon, 23 Aug 2004 13:21:01 +0100
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Hi to all,

Well, as the subject line says:  "I'm back"!

I really didn't expect to be away for so long, but sometimes the Lord
needs us to stop some of the things we're doing in order to focus on
Him.  In my case, as many of you know, I haven't been well for ages and
ages.  I'm still not in good health at all and need your prayers, but I
do think it's time to return and am really glad to have fellowship with
you all again.

For any who are fairly new to the list and don't know me, I'm Carol from
the UK and live now in Reading with my husband, Mike.  We love the Lord
and, truly, He loves us!  I have been a part of the ECHURCH-US list for
several years now, with a couple of breaks.  We now have our UK list,
though it's very different from the US one, and I love to be a part of
both.

I have heard news of you all from time to time, as Phil and Vicki have
kept me informed.  Thanks also to those who have written personally.

Since last I was with you all, the Lord has continued to do a lot of
healing work in me and I know now that I am "one person" and free from
the Dissociated Identity Disorder I'd suffered for years!  The Lord has
given me some very wonderful and intimate times with Himself which I
want to be more frequent and lasting!  His most recent words to me have
encouraged me both that He opens and closes doors and nobody can stop
Him (so I look for far bigger things to happen than ever I could ask or
think) and also that He does things in His order and I am to simply
trust Him that His order is good and right!


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Well, Remember, the plumber was available 2 weeks ago.  Now, who knows
where he is?  Probably on another job.
Kathy

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Date:         Mon, 23 Aug 2004 08:23:50 -0400
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Carol,
Great to have you back!  Phil has kept us up on you as well.
Kathy

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Date:         Mon, 23 Aug 2004 13:40:54 +0100
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Kathy,

I was interested to catch up with your house situation.  I remember you
saying that you'd hoped it would be done much sooner than this and can
appreciate some of the difficulties you could face if they don't hurry
up!  What can I say except to remind you that "God is in control, so
hands off!"

<GRINS>


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-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 23 August 2004 12:28
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Subject: Re: Housing progress


Hey Brad,
        for the most part, I'm at peace with the delays on the house.  I
like being able to walk through it every day and exploring each new
thing.  For example, the electrician came on Saturday and strung more
than 1,500 feet of wire and cable and phone line through the house.
It's amazing to be able to explore that and then find this huge bundle
of wire sticking out of the basement wall  like spaghetti is just so
cool.  It really helps me to appreciate what goes into the construction
of a house.
        The concerns lie in this area.  We had originally thought that
the house would be done in July so Greg had removed the skirting to the
mobile home in June and put most of the axels on already, preparing it
to be moved.  Now, we're coming in to heating season here in Maine with
very little protection from the cold.  You know how our pipes froze last
winter.  Well, now we're much more volnerable so more delay could be
almost dangerous.  Also, the mobile home is depreciating the longer it
sits here unsold and I don't need to explain that any furtherr.  We're
also having to keep insurance on both structures.  Finally, if the home
isn't done soon, the landscaping won't get done this fall which means
that we could havve really hazardous ground around the house with a lot
of ice build up and uneven surfaces.  I'm not going to be too keen on
walking around our house this winter if it continues looking the way
that it does now.
        I know that it's all in the Lord's hands.  He seems to be great
at teaching me patience.   I really need the lessons too.  We did
receive
the shipment of dry wall this morning around 6:30, but they can't do
much with it before the plumber arrives and does his thing for the base
board heat.  Oh well, "all in good time my pretty, all in good time!"
Kathy

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Oh, wonder what he's told you!  <GRINS>


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Carol,
Great to have you back!  Phil has kept us up on you as well. Kathy

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Date:         Mon, 23 Aug 2004 08:53:36 -0400
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Carol,
The truth is that I really like Rick, the head contractor and I wouldn't
want to cause him any trouble.  I know that he is really into quality,
which is to our benefit.  Unfortunately, he's also building seven other
houses besides ours, at present, which slows them all down because the
crews are so split up.  We'll all have great houses when it is all over,
but we'll have to be patient to get there.
Kathy

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Date:         Mon, 23 Aug 2004 07:02:49 -0600
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Kathy,

I do remember his availability and the confusion that happened a couple of
weeks ago.

Um!  I may need him at my house today, as we seem to have a drain problem in
the basement.  Can't do a stick of laundry until it's fixed.  We've tried
remedies but they haven't worked.  So you might pray that this is easily
remedied without costing us two arms and two legs.  At least it won't be
weekend rates.  So if he shows up at your house first Kathy, tell him to
work quickly and efficiently, and send him to me.  If He shows up here
first, I'll do the same.  Ha.

Seriously, will be continuing to pray for your situation;.
Vicki

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> Well, Remember, the plumber was available 2 weeks ago.  Now, who knows
> where he is?  Probably on another job.
> Kathy
>
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Well, just threaten to move into his home if he hasn't got yours
finished by the Winter, or something like that.  <SMILE>

I'll be praying about that along with you as I don't want you camping
out or threatening to come to my home instead.  There truly wouldn't be
room for your family in our little home.


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Carol,
The truth is that I really like Rick, the head contractor and I wouldn't
want to cause him any trouble.  I know that he is really into quality,
which is to our benefit.  Unfortunately, he's also building seven other
houses besides ours, at present, which slows them all down because the
crews are so split up.  We'll all have great houses when it is all over,
but we'll have to be patient to get there. Kathy

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Date:         Mon, 23 Aug 2004 09:12:32 -0400
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Carol,
What a joy to see you post.  I am thankful and praising the Lord that you
are back with us.  We have all missed your posts and have been constantly
praying for you healing and encouragement in you walk with the Lord.  The
Lord is so good and it is good to hear you remind us often.
God's blessings on you and Mike and continued healing and good health.

Ned
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Carol,
Don't forget, I've got a dog and a cat too.  I'm not going anywhere
without them!  Wow, England in the fall.  Hmmmm.
Kathy

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Vicki,
If the plumber goes to Denver first I may never get this house done!
GRIN!  Kathy

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We are praying, Peggy.

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Kathy,

If God didn't have you guys there for a purpose, you could move that house
to Denver too.  But we know his plans and purposes are the best.
Nevertheless, I'll send that plumber guy right away.  Of course, he hasn't
shown up here first either.  But then I've an idea we have to call him for
that to happen.  Grin!

Vicki
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Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 7:21 AM
Subject: Re: Housing progress


> Vicki,
> If the plumber goes to Denver first I may never get this house done!
> GRIN!  Kathy
>
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So that's got to be - three dogs, one cat, four adults plus your
ever-growing children!

Think I'll camp out tonight!


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Carol,
Don't forget, I've got a dog and a cat too.  I'm not going anywhere
without them!  Wow, England in the fall.  Hmmmm. Kathy

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Hi all,

Thanks to all who have posted since my return.

One thing I forgot to tell you all was that I had  bad neck problem a
few months ago and went several weeks unable to read Braille with my
right hand (best reading finger) because of numbness as a result of the
neck.  The physio has worked hard on this and yesterday I discovered
that my reading was really back to normal.  I'm so grateful to God!
Trying to read slowly with my left hand was less than fun!

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It's great to see you back with us, Carol!

Peggy

At 01:21 PM 8/23/2004 +0100, you wrote:
>Hi to all,
>
>Well, as the subject line says:  "I'm back"!
>
>I really didn't expect to be away for so long, but sometimes the Lord
>needs us to stop some of the things we're doing in order to focus on
>Him.  In my case, as many of you know, I haven't been well for ages and
>ages.  I'm still not in good health at all and need your prayers, but I
>do think it's time to return and am really glad to have fellowship with
>you all again.
>
>For any who are fairly new to the list and don't know me, I'm Carol from
>the UK and live now in Reading with my husband, Mike.  We love the Lord
>and, truly, He loves us!  I have been a part of the ECHURCH-US list for
>several years now, with a couple of breaks.  We now have our UK list,
>though it's very different from the US one, and I love to be a part of
>both.
>
>I have heard news of you all from time to time, as Phil and Vicki have
>kept me informed.  Thanks also to those who have written personally.
>
>Since last I was with you all, the Lord has continued to do a lot of
>healing work in me and I know now that I am "one person" and free from
>the Dissociated Identity Disorder I'd suffered for years!  The Lord has
>given me some very wonderful and intimate times with Himself which I
>want to be more frequent and lasting!  His most recent words to me have
>encouraged me both that He opens and closes doors and nobody can stop
>Him (so I look for far bigger things to happen than ever I could ask or
>think) and also that He does things in His order and I am to simply
>trust Him that His order is good and right!
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Date:         Mon, 23 Aug 2004 11:26:56 -0400
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Hey Vicki,
How about a baking contest?  You can entice him with your best chocolate
chip cookie and I'll do the same over here on the east coast.  May the
best cookie win!  GRIN!
Kathy

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Date:         Mon, 23 Aug 2004 11:28:33 -0400
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Carol,
Oh yah, I forgot, if we can't find a baby sitter for the fish, they'll
have to come along too.  Have you got room for a 55 gallon tank?
Kathy

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I like it.  Grin!

Vicki

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> Hey Vicki,
> How about a baking contest?  You can entice him with your best chocolate
> chip cookie and I'll do the same over here on the east coast.  May the
> best cookie win!  GRIN!
> Kathy
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Okay Vicki,
But I'd better warn you, I add allmond extract and wallnuts to mine.
Kathy

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Date:         Mon, 23 Aug 2004 11:38:28 -0500
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Dear Peggy,

Oh Loving one! I'm praying about that lump on your breast. I pray that it
is nothing, and I understand why you are worried about it. I've had systs
before, so it can be scarey.

I'm praying for you, and please keep us informed.

Many lovings and squeezings for you.

Love and Blessings,
Pat Ferguson

At 12:07 AM 8/23/04, you wrote:
>Hi, all.  I figure the above subject line would help us keep track of what
>prayer request and from whom we were dealing with.  <grin>
>
>This past Friday I found a tiny lump in my breast.  I thought at first I
>was being a hypochondriac, because I've had two co-workers develop breast
>cancer.  One caught it early and is okay, since it didn't affect her lymph
>nodes.  The other wasn't so lucky, in that her cancer spread, and the
>prognosis doesn't look good.  Anyway, I kept looking at the lump, which I'd
>sometimes find easily and other times not at all, wondering if it was my
>imagination.  Finally last night I told my husband about it and showed him
>the spot, and he felt it too.  It seems to be near the surface, and doesn't
>seem to be attached to anything, so we're hoping it's just a cyst.  But I
>have an appoihntment on Tuesday to have it checked out, so pray that I have
>peace about the situation until then, and that God gives the doctor wisdom
>in how to deal with it.  Thanks.
>
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Woo Hoo!  That sounds real good.
I use oatmeal in mine and pecans.  If you want my recipe.  Let me know off
list.

Vicki

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> Okay Vicki,
> But I'd better warn you, I add allmond extract and wallnuts to mine.
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Thank you Vinny for asking.  God has been gracious to our family by
helping us to keep Chris busy this summer and that has reduced the strain
on our family a great deal.  In June, he landed a job at a convenience
store, doing odd jobs for the owner and that takes up about 25 hours a
week.  He took one summer school class in July, that he had to pay for
and that kept him busy in the mornings for a time as well.  He started
out doing really well, but as soon as he was pretty sure that he would
pass the class he started lapsing into old patterns of laziness and ended
up passing with a D.  Of course, we, his parents, were disappointed since
Chris had demonstrated that he was capable of doing much better, but
we're learning the hard way that you can't make a child care, no matter
how wise that would be.  He continues to have angry outbursts, but they
are much less frequent and much more controlled so I guess that that is a
big step forward.  I still seem to be the main person that he flares up
at, but then, we can also hug and I've told him that as long as we can do
that, we'll get through the rest.  Chris agrees.
        Chris has earned enough money to pay for drivers Ed. and he will
begin that this Wednesday.  He wants to keep his job.  Money is more
important than academics right now and we're considering just letting him
roll with it rather than fight him on it.  He knows what is more
important really, but he doesn't want to do the right thing so we're
thinking of taking Dr. Kevin Leman's advice and let Chris learn through
natural consequences of his choices.  It might sound kind of wimpy on our
part, but some day, he's going to wake up and regret chasing the wrong
things.  We all do eventually, especially if God's hand is upon our
lives, and I believe firmly that, whether Chris knows it or not, he is
firmly held in God's grasp.  I trust that God knows what He is doing.
        Perhaps the hardest time for me this summer with Chris is when my
oldest son, Matt, left for college.  Matt left Maine for Michigan the
first of August to look for work before school starts.  I had a real hard
time with his leaving, but harder still was chris's attitude of being
thrilled to finally have a room to himself and he just started pitching
out Matt's stuff and I had to go through it and try to salvage it before
it got lost or damaged.  Chris was in the type of mood where, if I cried
he would have blown up and I really had to hold it together to make it
through.  Of course, knowing that Matt still hasn't found work has been
real agony for me because I know how hard he's trying and Chris seems to
be totally oblivious to his older brother's struggles.  Chris could be
bluffing.  He does try to be the tough guy, but I just find the bluster
hard to handle at times.
        Well Vinny, I guess that that catches you up on chris.  Again,
thanks for asking, and for praying.  I really appreciate it very much!
Kathy

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Kathy,

That's great to hear all that about Chris.  I just assumed nothing was
different, overall, except for his job so I didn't ask but I sure was glad
to get the report.  Maybe this will be good for him now that his brother is
gone.  There is an adjustment period for everyone due to his abscence,
that's for sure, and especially for mom.

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Thanks Phil,
It is better, but I'm bracing myself for when school starts and the time
pressure increases.  Maybe I'm just being too much of a pesimest.  I'm
good at that.
Kathy

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Kathy you wrote concerning Chris...
"Money is more important than academics right now and we're considering
just letting him roll with it rather than fight him on it.  He knows what
is more important really, but he doesn't want to do the right thing so
we're thinking of taking Dr. Kevin Leman's advice and let Chris learn
through natural consequences of his choices.  It might sound kind of wimpy
on our part, but some day, he's going to wake up and regret chasing the
wrong things."

Brad responds: I can tell you from experience it is far from whimpy on your
part to stand back and not try to assert corrective measures or try to
explain why he ought do the things he ought do. Although I do not  have
outbursts of anger with my son, we do struggle with him regarding academics
verses playtime or his job, as well as general responsibility as we think
he ought be at his age. I am soooooooo tired of the lecture of why he needs
good grades, why he ought bring his homework home, and when he does bring
it home and completes it, to actually hand it in? Novel thought there huh?
He just doesn't connect the need for it, to his life beyond where he is
now. My son is a very hands on kid, very sharp. He can tell you anything
you want to know about speakers and how they work, car amps, radios, how to
install them and why this much ohm, watt  or impedance is needed and etc.
but if that was a class in school he'd flunk it, yet he is sought after by
those around him to install these amps, radios and speakers systems into
cars, and not all by kids but adults as well. He is a last minute Joe. He
waits until last minute to take action, and on the major stuff he will, the
minor stuff he won't. My wife and I were gone this weekend, jumped in the
car and headed west, in fact found ourselves sitting in Pat and Vernon
Ferguson's living room in South Dakota laughing and jawing away, again
thanks Pat for the visit, anyway upon our return, with my son being the
only one home all weekend, we came home to nearly all the windows open and
air conditioning running, as well back sliding door with only the screen
closed and open for all to do whatever. I've learned to not drive myself
nuts with fits of how I might punish him, but rather I tell him about it
with disappointment, and the next time we leave opportunity for him to be
responsible, I'll lay down some guidelines or else he pays for it in time
or his paycheck. He understands the latter. It is not easy to let them face
the consequences from their mistakes, especially when you know right where
they are headed and they get down on themselves when they do crash. Perhaps
the wisdom is better planted on ground that has been tilled with life's
experience where water can absorb and nourish it, rather than bouncing off
of hard headed surface not yet tilled. I'm supposing this occurred with us
to a degree as young adults too, but it does seem to be to a greater degree
of challenge, but perhaps that is my bias opinion *smile*.

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Oh Brad,
        Your post is such a relief that, perhaps, we are making the right
choice.  My Chris sounds so much like your son, hands on and everything
except that Chris is more in to building, not eletronics.  Yet, he is
refusing to take any courses in carpentry or building.  He thinks that he
already knows it all and he would probably flunk if he did take a course
because he wouldn't do things the way the instructor asked, and chris's
explanation would no doubt be that the instructor is "stupid!"  My Chris
understands the hurt in the wallet more than anything right now too so
we've just decided that, some day, Chris will finally buckle down when he
sees all the losers who hit the books pull ahead of him financially and
he'll begin to rethink his priorities.  The thing is, I know from
comments he makes from time to time, that what we've taught him is still
down there, somewhere, churning around.  He's just trying to prove us
wrong right now.  His goal in life is to prove that he's right.  Can you
say "CRASH big time," dead ahead?
        Thanks for saying I"m not a wimp, though I feel like it
sometimes.  I'm just tired of the fighting and Greg and I value the
relationship more than anything else.  That's what has to be preserved.
He'll learn life's lessons in God's time, but we want to get through all
this with him and not against him.
Kathy

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Hmmm!

Unlikely, but they won't mind the garage will they!  There's a light,
freezer, lots of boxes and, oh, a drier as well!


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Carol,
Oh yah, I forgot, if we can't find a baby sitter for the fish, they'll
have to come along too.  Have you got room for a 55 gallon tank? Kathy

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Kathy,

I believe preserving the relationship is wise. I think  there becomes a
point in which one must look at how the child can position him or herself
in such a spot which requires constant correction, and thus constant
beating upon their self-esteem, and let it ride or strategically issue
correction. In a strange way I believe they see it as a way of forcing a
parent to care for them, perhaps differently than the other child or
children in the family.  The thing is I've noticed with my son is if I
leave him alone, and do not press him on issues I feel are needed for a
responsible life, he'll go and get a new job, pick up a really good deal on
something he's been wanting. In other words he is a survivor, and does very
well actually by the seat of his pants. No doubt he risks not making the
last minute play and suffering the consequences, but I guess we could as
well even with all the responsible preparing. The problem is, distant as it
is, my son has a role model or which proves academics isn't important, but
networking in business is, relationships and knowing people can provide
success in seat of your pants living and no grandiose life plan. He sees it
in his grandfather who is doing well for himself and just sort of makes his
way through life by swinging deals, networking with people, and etc. I've
learned to not be so pro-college with my son, and learned that he will
likely do just fine out in the hands-on world, in fact may well do better
there than many college folks as blue collar work, in  a trade is becoming
more in demand. For instance they train young folks at a tech college here
in hydraulics with a 95% placement at $60,000 the first year. You will not
find a college student making that kind of income even a few years after
college in many places in the country. So I've learned to just stress he
needs to get passing grades in school. And surprisingly in today's grading
standards that is a "D". Once my son explained the grading system, I
learned that his grade of D was the same percentile as my grade of C when I
went to school. Much more is required of students today percentage wise to
achieve the same letter grade than when we were in school.

Brad


Kathy Du Bois wrote:
>Oh Brad,
>         Your post is such a relief that, perhaps, we are making the right
>choice.  My Chris sounds so much like your son, hands on and everything
>except that Chris is more in to building, not eletronics.  Yet, he is
>refusing to take any courses in carpentry or building.  He thinks that he
>already knows it all and he would probably flunk if he did take a course
>because he wouldn't do things the way the instructor asked, and chris's
>explanation would no doubt be that the instructor is "stupid!"  My Chris
>understands the hurt in the wallet more than anything right now too so
>we've just decided that, some day, Chris will finally buckle down when he
>sees all the losers who hit the books pull ahead of him financially and
>he'll begin to rethink his priorities.  The thing is, I know from
>comments he makes from time to time, that what we've taught him is still
>down there, somewhere, churning around.  He's just trying to prove us
>wrong right now.  His goal in life is to prove that he's right.  Can you
>say "CRASH big time," dead ahead?
>         Thanks for saying I"m not a wimp, though I feel like it
>sometimes.  I'm just tired of the fighting and Greg and I value the
>relationship more than anything else.  That's what has to be preserved.
>He'll learn life's lessons in God's time, but we want to get through all
>this with him and not against him.
>Kathy
>
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Date:         Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:57:12 +0100
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Kathy,

As I've read through the various posts, I feel as though I've sort of
caught up on Chris and your family sagas, and nothing seems any easier.

However, I really do believe that the *only* thing you can do now is to
place him into God's hands and leave him there while you just quietly
trust in God!  Yes, that sounds hard and from one who doesn't have
children of her own, but the Lord had to teach me this lesson about my
niece who, as many will remember, just took and took and took, always
promising to give back but never quite making it.  Well, finally I got
the message that I must stop trying to force her into making right
decisions and leave her to make her own.  After all, she's old enough
now and I can well do without the hassle.  Now, instead of talking and
almost pleading - and maybe nagging her - I simply just have to pray!

I believe that's where trust comes in!


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Subject: My son Chris.


Thank you Vinny for asking.  God has been gracious to our family by
helping us to keep Chris busy this summer and that has reduced the
strain on our family a great deal.  In June, he landed a job at a
convenience store, doing odd jobs for the owner and that takes up about
25 hours a week.  He took one summer school class in July, that he had
to pay for and that kept him busy in the mornings for a time as well.
He started out doing really well, but as soon as he was pretty sure that
he would pass the class he started lapsing into old patterns of laziness
and ended up passing with a D.  Of course, we, his parents, were
disappointed since Chris had demonstrated that he was capable of doing
much better, but we're learning the hard way that you can't make a child
care, no matter how wise that would be.  He continues to have angry
outbursts, but they are much less frequent and much more controlled so I
guess that that is a big step forward.  I still seem to be the main
person that he flares up at, but then, we can also hug and I've told him
that as long as we can do that, we'll get through the rest.  Chris
agrees.
        Chris has earned enough money to pay for drivers Ed. and he will
begin that this Wednesday.  He wants to keep his job.  Money is more
important than academics right now and we're considering just letting
him roll with it rather than fight him on it.  He knows what is more
important really, but he doesn't want to do the right thing so we're
thinking of taking Dr. Kevin Leman's advice and let Chris learn through
natural consequences of his choices.  It might sound kind of wimpy on
our part, but some day, he's going to wake up and regret chasing the
wrong things.  We all do eventually, especially if God's hand is upon
our lives, and I believe firmly that, whether Chris knows it or not, he
is firmly held in God's grasp.  I trust that God knows what He is doing.
        Perhaps the hardest time for me this summer with Chris is when
my oldest son, Matt, left for college.  Matt left Maine for Michigan the
first of August to look for work before school starts.  I had a real
hard time with his leaving, but harder still was chris's attitude of
being thrilled to finally have a room to himself and he just started
pitching out Matt's stuff and I had to go through it and try to salvage
it before it got lost or damaged.  Chris was in the type of mood where,
if I cried he would have blown up and I really had to hold it together
to make it through.  Of course, knowing that Matt still hasn't found
work has been real agony for me because I know how hard he's trying and
Chris seems to be totally oblivious to his older brother's struggles.
Chris could be bluffing.  He does try to be the tough guy, but I just
find the bluster hard to handle at times.
        Well Vinny, I guess that that catches you up on chris.  Again,
thanks for asking, and for praying.  I really appreciate it very much!
Kathy

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Date:         Mon, 23 Aug 2004 20:15:50 -0400
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Brad,
I've never really pushed the college route with chris either, but I know
that he can do better academicly and I had  wanted him to do that for
himself, not for scholarships or anything.  Chris's lack of effort says
more about his unwillingness to push himself than his lack of ability to
achieve.  Chris is a scrapper too.  He'll find a way to make it somehow.
He dabbles with thoughts of going into the army or guard.  His latest
though is to become a robotics engineer, so who knows.  As I had said
before and you affirmed in your last post, it's the relationship that's
the thing.  At least while we are still in his life, we can still have
influance  If I just push to have him do things my way I'll just lose
him.  .
After all, growing up is learning how to learn from your mistakes and
growing up for parents is learning to back off and let them make them,
mistakes that is.
Kathy

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Date:         Mon, 23 Aug 2004 18:22:17 -0600
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Peggy, as otehrs have said, it's a good idea to get that lump checked =
out.  I'll pray that it's nothing.  I will also pray you have peace =
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  Hi, all.  I figure the above subject line would help us keep track of =
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  This past Friday I found a tiny lump in my breast.  I thought at first =
I
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my
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him
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doesn't
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But I
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have
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Date:         Mon, 23 Aug 2004 19:56:57 -0500
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Kathy,

Yep time to rip off the training wheells and let go the back of the seat.
Watch out for that . . crash . . tree.

Brad






Kathy Du Bois wrote:
>Brad,
>I've never really pushed the college route with chris either, but I know
>that he can do better academicly and I had  wanted him to do that for
>himself, not for scholarships or anything.  Chris's lack of effort says
>more about his unwillingness to push himself than his lack of ability to
>achieve.  Chris is a scrapper too.  He'll find a way to make it somehow.
>He dabbles with thoughts of going into the army or guard.  His latest
>though is to become a robotics engineer, so who knows.  As I had said
>before and you affirmed in your last post, it's the relationship that's
>the thing.  At least while we are still in his life, we can still have
>influance  If I just push to have him do things my way I'll just lose
>him.  .
>After all, growing up is learning how to learn from your mistakes and
>growing up for parents is learning to back off and let them make them,
>mistakes that is.
>Kathy
>
>________________________________________________________________
>The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!
>Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!
>Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

Brad

   The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing
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Date:         Tue, 24 Aug 2004 04:02:37 +0000
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> Hi Karen,
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> I want to also welcome you to this group of loving ones. You are also loving!
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> I've been reading your messages, and I like them.
>
> Take care and God Bless you.
>
> Love and Blessings,
> Pat Ferguson
>
>
>
> At 07:32 PM 8/21/04, you wrote:
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> >Thank you Kathy. I have already recieved a few e-mails through the group
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> >Mich Sch f/t Blind. I have had various jobs no on my chosing but every
> >job I have obtained has been down sized. So I am presently looking for
> >work and taking ministry classes threw Destiny School of Ministry out or
> >Roseville MI. We have a satalite school here in Lansing at my
> >church. Hopefully this will land me something. I am a singer and have
> >made a few recording but nothing yet. Hope to get to know all of you and
> >thank you for allowing me to be in the group.
> >
> >
> >--
> >In any kind of circumstance PRAY
> >
> >Karen Carter 74'
> >
> >
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> > > Hey guys, I"ve done it! I've successfully sent the information about
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> > > Karen, feel free to introduce yourself as you wish. I just want to tell
> > > people that you and I attended the same school, though you were a bit
> > > ahead of me. These people are great. Hope you feel welcome here really
> > > fast!
> > > Kathy
> > >
> > > ________________________________________________________________
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> >Mich Sch f/t Blind. I have had various jobs no on my chosing but every
> >job I have obtained has been down sized. So I am presently looking for
> >work and taking ministry classes threw Destiny School of Ministry out or
> >Roseville MI. We have a satalite school here in Lansing at my
> >church. Hopefully this will land me something. I am a singer and have
> >made a few recording but nothing yet. Hope to get to know all of you and
> >thank you for allowing me to be in the group.
> >
> >--
> >In any kind of circumstance PRAY
> >
> >Karen Carter 74'
> >
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> >
> > > Hey guys, I"ve done it! I've successfully sent the information about
> > > echurch to another person! Yea! As most of you know, this is an amazing
> > > accomplishment for someone who is as computer illiterate as me. Anyway,
> > > Karen, feel free to introduce yourself as you wish. I just want to tell
> > > people that you and I attended the same school, though you were a bit
> > > ahead of me. These people are great. Hope you feel welcome here really
> > > fast!
> > > Kathy
> > >
> > > ________________________________________________________________
> > > The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!
> > > Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!
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> Hi Karen,


> I want to also welcome you to this group of loving ones. You are also
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> I've been reading your messages, and I like them.


> Take care and God Bless you.


> Love and Blessings,

> Pat Ferguson


>


> At 07:32 PM 8/21/04, you wrote:

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> Thank you Kathy.  I have already recieved a few e-mails through the
> group not to me but the group and have enjoyed them.  I graduated in
> 1974 from Mich Sch f/t Blind.  I have had various jobs no on my
> chosing but every job I have obtained has been down sized.  So I am
> presently looking for work and taking ministry classes threw Destiny
> School of Ministry out or Roseville MI.  We have a satalite school
> here in Lansing at my church.  Hopefully this will land me
> something.  I am a singer and have made a few recording but nothing
> yet.  Hope to get to know all of you and thank you for allowing me
> to be in the group.


>

> --

> In any kind of circumstance PRAY


> Karen Carter 74'


>

> -------------- Original message --------------


> > Hey guys, I"ve done it! I've successfully sent the information
> about

> > echurch to another person! Yea! As most of you know, this is an
> amazing

> > accomplishment for someone who is as computer illiterate as me.
> Anyway,

> > Karen, feel free to introduce yourself as you wish. I just want to
> tell

> > people that you and I attended the same school, though you were a
> bit

> > ahead of me. These people are great. Hope you feel welcome here
> really

> > fast!

> > Kathy

> >

> >
> ________________________________________________________________

> > The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!

> > Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!

> > Only $14.95/ month - visit
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> up today!

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> Thank you Kathy.  I have already recieved a few e-mails through the
> group not to me but the group and have enjoyed them.  I graduated in
> 1974 from Mich Sch f/t Blind.  I have had various jobs no on my
> chosing but every job I have obtained has been down sized.  So I am
> presently looking for work and taking ministry classes threw Destiny
> School of Ministry out or Roseville MI.  We have a satalite school
> here in Lansing at my church.  Hopefully this will land me
> something.  I am a singer and have made a few recording but nothing
> yet.  Hope to get to know all of you and thank you for allowing me
> to be in the group.


> --

> In any kind of circumstance PRAY


> Karen Carter 74'


>
>

>
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>
>
> Hey guys, I"ve done it! I've successfully sent the
> information about

>
>
> echurch to another person! Yea! As most of you know, this is an
> amazing

>
>
> accomplishment for someone who is as computer illiterate as me.
> Anyway,

>
>
> Karen, feel free to introduce yourself as you wish. I just want
> to tell

>
>
> people that you and I attended the same school, though you were
> a bit

>
>
> ahead of me. These people are great. Hope you feel welcome here
> really

>
>
> fast!

>
>
> Kathy

>
>
>

>
>
> ________________________________________________________________
>

>
>
> The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!
>

>
>
> Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!

>
>
> Only $14.95/ month - visit
> www.juno.com to sign
> up today!

>

>
>


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<DIV class=signature id=signature>--<BR>In any kind of circumstance PRAY <BR><BR>Karen Carter 74'</DIV><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR><BR>&gt; --=====================_24726343==.ALT <BR>&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Hi Karen, <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I want to also welcome you to this group of loving ones. You are also loving! <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I've been reading your messages, and I like them. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Take care and God Bless you. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Love and Blessings, <BR>&gt; Pat Ferguson <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; At 07:32 PM 8/21/04, you wrote: <BR>&gt; &gt;--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_9969_1093134742_0 <BR>&gt; &gt;Content-Type: text/plain <BR>&gt; &gt;Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;Thank you Kathy. I have already recieved a few e-mails through the group <BR>&gt; &gt;not to me but the group and have enjoyed them. I graduated in 1974 from <BR>&gt; &gt;Mich Sch f/t Blind. I have had various jobs no on my chosing but every <BR>&gt; &gt;job I have obtained has been down sized. So I am presently looking for <BR>&gt; &gt;work and taking ministry classes threw Destiny School of Ministry out or <BR>&gt; &gt;Roseville MI. We have a satalite school here in Lansing at my <BR>&gt; &gt;church. Hopefully this will land me something. I am a singer and have <BR>&gt; &gt;made a few recording but nothing yet. Hope to get to know all of you and <BR>&gt; &gt;thank you for allowing me to be in the group. <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;-- <BR>&gt; &gt;In any kind of circumstance PRAY <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;Karen Carter 74' <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;-------------- Original message -------------- <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Hey guys, I"ve done it! I've successfully sent the information about <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; echurch to another person! Yea! As most of you know, this is an amazing <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; accomplishment for someone who is as computer illiterate as me. Anyway, <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Karen, feel free to introduce yourself as you wish. I just want to tell <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; people that you and I attended the same school, though you were a bit <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; ahead of me. These people are great. Hope you feel welcome here really <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; fast! <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Kathy <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; ________________________________________________________________ <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! <BR>&gt; &gt;--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_9969_1093134742_0 <BR>&gt; &gt;Content-Type: text/html <BR>&gt; &gt;Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;Thank you Kathy. I have already recieved a few e-mails through the group <BR>&gt; &gt;not to me but the group and have enjoyed them. I graduated in 1974 from <BR>&gt; &gt;Mich Sch f/t Blind. I have had various jobs no on my chosing but every <BR>&gt; &gt;job I have obtained has been down sized. So I am presently looking for <BR>&gt; &gt;work and taking ministry classes threw Destiny School of Ministry out or <BR>&gt; &gt;Roseville MI. We have a satalite school here in Lansing at my <BR>&gt; &gt;church. Hopefully this will land me something. I am a singer and have <BR>&gt; &gt;made a few recording but nothing yet. Hope to get to know all of you and <BR>&gt; &gt;thank you for allowing me to be in the group. <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;-- <BR>&gt; &gt;In any kind of circumstance PRAY <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;Karen Carter 74' <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;-------------- Original message -------------- <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Hey guys, I"ve done it! I've successfully sent the information about <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; echurch to another person! Yea! As most of you know, this is an amazing <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; accomplishment for someone who is as computer illiterate as me. Anyway, <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Karen, feel free to introduce yourself as you wish. I just want to tell <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; people that you and I attended the same school, though you were a bit <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; ahead of me. These people are great. Hope you feel welcome here really <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; fast! <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Kathy <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; ________________________________________________________________ <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_9969_1093134742_0-- <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; --=====================_24726343==.ALT <BR>&gt; Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Hi Karen,<BR><BR><BR>&gt; I want to also welcome you to this group of loving ones. You are also <BR>&gt; loving!<BR><BR><BR>&gt; I've been reading your messages, and I like them.<BR><BR><BR>&gt; Take care and God Bless you.<BR><BR><BR>&gt; Love and Blessings,<BR><BR>&gt; Pat Ferguson<BR><BR><BR>&gt; <BR><BR><BR>&gt; At 07:32 PM 8/21/04, you wrote:<BR><BR>&gt;
<BLOCKQUOTE class=cite <BR type="cite">&gt; cite=""&gt;--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_9969_1093134742_0<BR><BR>&gt; Content-Type: text/plain<BR><BR>&gt; Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit<BR><BR><BR>&gt; Thank you Kathy.&nbsp; I have already recieved a few e-mails through the <BR>&gt; group not to me but the group and have enjoyed them.&nbsp; I graduated in <BR>&gt; 1974 from Mich Sch f/t Blind.&nbsp; I have had various jobs no on my <BR>&gt; chosing but every job I have obtained has been down sized.&nbsp; So I am <BR>&gt; presently looking for work and taking ministry classes threw Destiny <BR>&gt; School of Ministry out or Roseville MI.&nbsp; We have a satalite school <BR>&gt; here in Lansing at my church.&nbsp; Hopefully this will land me <BR>&gt; something.&nbsp; I am a singer and have made a few recording but nothing <BR>&gt; yet.&nbsp; Hope to get to know all of you and thank you for allowing me <BR>&gt; to be in the group.<BR><BR><BR>&gt; <BR><BR>&gt; --<BR><BR>&gt; In any kind of circumstance PRAY<BR><BR><BR>&gt; Karen Carter 74'<BR><BR><BR>&gt; <BR><BR>&gt; -------------- Original message --------------<BR><BR><BR>&gt; &gt; Hey guys, I"ve done it! I've successfully sent the information <BR>&gt; about<BR><BR>&gt; &gt; echurch to another person! Yea! As most of you know, this is an <BR>&gt; amazing<BR><BR>&gt; &gt; accomplishment for someone who is as computer illiterate as me. <BR>&gt; Anyway,<BR><BR>&gt; &gt; Karen, feel free to introduce yourself as you wish. I just want to <BR>&gt; tell<BR><BR>&gt; &gt; people that you and I attended the same school, though you were a <BR>&gt; bit<BR><BR>&gt; &gt; ahead of me. These people are great. Hope you feel welcome here <BR>&gt; really<BR><BR>&gt; &gt; fast!<BR><BR>&gt; &gt; Kathy<BR><BR>&gt; &gt;<BR><BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; ________________________________________________________________<BR><BR>&gt; &gt; The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!<BR><BR>&gt; &gt; Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!<BR><BR>&gt; &gt; Only $14.95/ month - visit <BR>&gt; <A href="http://www.juno.com/" eudora="autourl">www.juno.com</A> to sign <BR>&gt; up today!<BR><BR>&gt; --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_9969_1093134742_0<BR><BR>&gt; Content-Type: text/html<BR><BR>&gt; Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit<BR><BR><BR>&gt; Thank you Kathy.&nbsp; I have already recieved a few e-mails through the <BR>&gt; group not to me but the group and have enjoyed them.&nbsp; I graduated in <BR>&gt; 1974 from Mich Sch f/t Blind.&nbsp; I have had various jobs no on my <BR>&gt; chosing but every job I have obtained has been down sized.&nbsp; So I am <BR>&gt; presently looking for work and taking ministry classes threw Destiny <BR>&gt; School of Ministry out or Roseville MI.&nbsp; We have a satalite school <BR>&gt; here in Lansing at my church.&nbsp; Hopefully this will land me <BR>&gt; something.&nbsp; I am a singer and have made a few recording but nothing <BR>&gt; yet.&nbsp; Hope to get to know all of you and thank you for allowing me <BR>&gt; to be in the group. <BR><BR><BR>&gt; --<BR><BR>&gt; In any kind of circumstance PRAY <BR><BR><BR>&gt; Karen Carter 74'<BR><BR><BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;
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<DD>-------------- Original message -------------- <BR><BR><BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;
<DD>&gt; Hey guys, I"ve done it! I've successfully sent the <BR>&gt; information about <BR><BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;
<DD>&gt; echurch to another person! Yea! As most of you know, this is an <BR>&gt; amazing <BR><BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;
<DD>&gt; accomplishment for someone who is as computer illiterate as me. <BR>&gt; Anyway, <BR><BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;
<DD>&gt; Karen, feel free to introduce yourself as you wish. I just want <BR>&gt; to tell <BR><BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;
<DD>&gt; people that you and I attended the same school, though you were <BR>&gt; a bit <BR><BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;
<DD>&gt; ahead of me. These people are great. Hope you feel welcome here <BR>&gt; really <BR><BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;
<DD>&gt; fast! <BR><BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;
<DD>&gt; Kathy <BR><BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;
<DD>&gt; <BR><BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;
<DD>&gt; ________________________________________________________________ <BR>&gt; <BR><BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;
<DD>&gt; The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! <BR>&gt; <BR><BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;
<DD>&gt; Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! <BR><BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;
<DD>&gt; Only $14.95/ month - visit <BR>&gt; <A href="http://www.juno.com/" eudora="autourl">www.juno.com</A> to sign <BR>&gt; up today! <BR><BR>&gt; <BR><BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; </DD></DL><BR><BR>&gt; --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_9969_1093134742_0-- </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; --=====================_24726343==.ALT-- </BLOCKQUOTE></body></html>

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Thanks Brad.  We are all believers and just waiting to go home.  And we are misfits of this world because we are of rayalty.  We are prince and princesses of the King.


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Karen Carter 74'


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> Welcome Karen. Although I have to say if you are a friend of Kathy's...
> we'll be keeping an eye on you as wellhahahaha. Welcome, and no need to
> thank us for letting you be part of the group. It is not an exclusive one,
> we're all missfits of this world with one common ground, we're believers.
>
> Brad
>
>
>
>
> Karen Carter wrote:
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> >Thank you Kathy. I have already recieved a few e-mails through the group
> >not to me but the group and have enjoyed them. I graduated in 1974 from
> >Mich Sch f/t Blind. I have had various jobs no on my chosing but every
> >job I have obtained has been down sized. So I am presently looking for
> >work and taking ministry classes threw Destiny School of Ministry out or
> >Roseville MI. We have a satalite school here in Lansing at my
> >church. Hopefully this will land me something. I am a singer and have
> >made a few recording but nothing yet. Hope to get to know all of you and
> >thank you for allowing me to be in the group.
> >
> >
> >--
> >In any kind of circumstance PRAY
> >
> >Karen Carter 74'
> >
> >
> >-------------- Original message --------------
> >
> > > Hey guys, I"ve done it! I've successfully sent the information about
> > > echurch to another person! Yea! As most of you know, this is an amazing
> > > accomplishment for someone who is as computer illiterate as me. Anyway,
> > > Karen, feel free to introduce yourself as you wish. I just want to tell
> > > people that you and I attended the same school, though you were a bit
> > > ahead of me. These people are great. Hope you feel welcome here really
> > > fast!
> > > Kathy
> > >
> > > ________________________________________________________________
> > > The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!
> > > Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!
> > > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!
> >--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_9969_1093134742_0
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> >
> >Thank you Kathy. I have already recieved a few e-mails through the group
> >not to me but the group and have enjoyed them. I graduated in 1974 from
> >Mich Sch f/t Blind. I have had various jobs no on my chosing but every
> >job I have obtained has been down sized. So I am presently looking for
> >work and taking ministry classes threw Destiny School of Ministry out or
> >Roseville MI. We have a satalite school here in Lansing at my
> >church. Hopefully this will land me something. I am a singer and have
> >made a few recording but nothing yet. Hope to get to know all of you and
> >thank you for allowing me to be in the group.
> >
> >--
> >In any kind of circumstance PRAY
> >
> >Karen Carter 74'
> >
> >-------------- Original message --------------
> >
> > > Hey guys, I"ve done it! I've successfully sent the information about
> > > echurch to another person! Yea! As most of you know, this is an amazing
> > > accomplishment for someone who is as computer illiterate as me. Anyway,
> > > Karen, feel free to introduce yourself as you wish. I just want to tell
> > > people that you and I attended the same school, though you were a bit
> > > ahead of me. These people are great. Hope you feel welcome here really
> > > fast!
> > > Kathy
> > >
> > > ________________________________________________________________
> > > The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!
> > > Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!
> > > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!
> >
> >
> >--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_9969_1093134742_0--
>
> Brad
>
> People want to see a move of God, while God wants to see a move of people
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Thanks Brad.&nbsp; We are all believers and just waiting to go home.&nbsp; And we are misfits of this world because we are of rayalty.&nbsp; We are prince and princesses of the King. <BR><BR>
<DIV class=signature id=signature>--<BR>In any kind of circumstance PRAY <BR><BR>Karen Carter 74'</DIV><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR><BR>&gt; Welcome Karen. Although I have to say if you are a friend of Kathy's... <BR>&gt; we'll be keeping an eye on you as wellhahahaha. Welcome, and no need to <BR>&gt; thank us for letting you be part of the group. It is not an exclusive one, <BR>&gt; we're all missfits of this world with one common ground, we're believers. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Brad <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Karen Carter wrote: <BR>&gt; &gt;--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_9969_1093134742_0 <BR>&gt; &gt;Content-Type: text/plain <BR>&gt; &gt;Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;Thank you Kathy. I have already recieved a few e-mails through the group <BR>&gt; &gt;not to me but the group and have enjoyed them. I graduated in 1974 from <BR>&gt; &gt;Mich Sch f/t Blind. I have had various jobs no on my chosing but every <BR>&gt; &gt;job I have obtained has been down sized. So I am presently looking for <BR>&gt; &gt;work and taking ministry classes threw Destiny School of Ministry out or <BR>&gt; &gt;Roseville MI. We have a satalite school here in Lansing at my <BR>&gt; &gt;church. Hopefully this will land me something. I am a singer and have <BR>&gt; &gt;made a few recording but nothing yet. Hope to get to know all of you and <BR>&gt; &gt;thank you for allowing me to be in the group. <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;-- <BR>&gt; &gt;In any kind of circumstance PRAY <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;Karen Carter 74' <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;-------------- Original message -------------- <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Hey guys, I"ve done it! I've successfully sent the information about <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; echurch to another person! Yea! As most of you know, this is an amazing <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; accomplishment for someone who is as computer illiterate as me. Anyway, <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Karen, feel free to introduce yourself as you wish. I just want to tell <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; people that you and I attended the same school, though you were a bit <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; ahead of me. These people are great. Hope you feel welcome here really <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; fast! <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Kathy <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; ________________________________________________________________ <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! <BR>&gt; &gt;--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_9969_1093134742_0 <BR>&gt; &gt;Content-Type: text/html <BR>&gt; &gt;Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;Thank you Kathy. I have already recieved a few e-mails through the group <BR>&gt; &gt;not to me but the group and have enjoyed them. I graduated in 1974 from <BR>&gt; &gt;Mich Sch f/t Blind. I have had various jobs no on my chosing but every <BR>&gt; &gt;job I have obtained has been down sized. So I am presently looking for <BR>&gt; &gt;work and taking ministry classes threw Destiny School of Ministry out or <BR>&gt; &gt;Roseville MI. We have a satalite school here in Lansing at my <BR>&gt; &gt;church. Hopefully this will land me something. I am a singer and have <BR>&gt; &gt;made a few recording but nothing yet. Hope to get to know all of you and <BR>&gt; &gt;thank you for allowing me to be in the group. <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;-- <BR>&gt; &gt;In any kind of circumstance PRAY <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;Karen Carter 74' <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;-------------- Original message -------------- <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Hey guys, I"ve done it! I've successfully sent the information about <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; echurch to another person! Yea! As most of you know, this is an amazing <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; accomplishment for someone who is as computer illiterate as me. Anyway, <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Karen, feel free to introduce yourself as you wish. I just want to tell <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; people that you and I attended the same school, though you were a bit <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; ahead of me. These people are great. Hope you feel welcome here really <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; fast! <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Kathy <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; ________________________________________________________________ <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_9969_1093134742_0-- <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Brad <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; People want to see a move of God, while God wants to see a move of people </BLOCKQUOTE></body></html>

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Consider it done.  I am praying right now for a perfect healing, and a great prognosis.


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Karen Carter 74'


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> Hi, all. I figure the above subject line would help us keep track of what
> prayer request and from whom we were dealing with.
>
> This past Friday I found a tiny lump in my breast. I thought at first I
> was being a hypochondriac, because I've had two co-workers develop breast
> cancer. One caught it early and is okay, since it didn't affect her lymph
> nodes. The other wasn't so lucky, in that her cancer spread, and the
> prognosis doesn't look good. Anyway, I kept looking at the lump, which I'd
> sometimes find easily and other times not at all, wondering if it was my
> imagination. Finally last night I told my husband about it and showed him
> the spot, and he felt it too. It seems to be near the surface, and doesn't
> seem to be attached to anything, so we're hoping it's just a cyst. But I
> have an appoihntment on Tuesday to have it checked out, so pray that I have
> peace about the situation until then, and that God gives the doctor wisdom
> in how to deal with it. Thanks.
>
> Peggy
>
>
>
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Consider it done.&nbsp; I am praying right now for a perfect healing, and a great prognosis. <BR><BR>
<DIV class=signature id=signature>--<BR>In any kind of circumstance PRAY <BR><BR>Karen Carter 74'</DIV><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR><BR>&gt; Hi, all. I figure the above subject line would help us keep track of what <BR>&gt; prayer request and from whom we were dealing with. <GRIN><BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; This past Friday I found a tiny lump in my breast. I thought at first I <BR>&gt; was being a hypochondriac, because I've had two co-workers develop breast <BR>&gt; cancer. One caught it early and is okay, since it didn't affect her lymph <BR>&gt; nodes. The other wasn't so lucky, in that her cancer spread, and the <BR>&gt; prognosis doesn't look good. Anyway, I kept looking at the lump, which I'd <BR>&gt; sometimes find easily and other times not at all, wondering if it was my <BR>&gt; imagination. Finally last night I told my husband about it and showed him <BR>&gt; the spot, and he felt it too. It seems to be near the surface, and doesn't <BR>&gt; seem to be attached to anything, so we're hoping it's just a cyst. But I <BR>&gt; have an appoihntment on Tuesday to have it checked out, so pray that I have <BR>&gt; peace about the situation until then, and that God gives the doctor wisdom <BR>&gt; in how to deal with it. Thanks. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Peggy <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; mailto:[log in to unmask] <BR>&gt; http://www.home.earthlink.net/~kernsac <BR>&gt; MSN Messenger [log in to unmask] </BLOCKQUOTE></body></html>

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Date:         Tue, 24 Aug 2004 04:35:26 +0000
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I know you will really appreciate the house when it is done.  And like you said it will be done in his perfect time.


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> Carol,
> The truth is that I really like Rick, the head contractor and I wouldn't
> want to cause him any trouble. I know that he is really into quality,
> which is to our benefit. Unfortunately, he's also building seven other
> houses besides ours, at present, which slows them all down because the
> crews are so split up. We'll all have great houses when it is all over,
> but we'll have to be patient to get there.
> Kathy
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I know you will really appreciate the house when it is done.&nbsp; And like you said it will be done in his perfect time. <BR><BR>
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Peggy,

Sandy and I went through this many years ago and I don't mind telling you
how stressful it was.  We are praying for you little sister and I don't want
you worrying about this.  I've always had a plan for you and my plan has not
changed.  Nothing can stop my will for your life.  Friends are praying who
know how to pray so you let them do the praying in your behalf and do not
worry about how much you have to pray.  I already hear your voice and I hear
your cry.  The truth is all you need to know right now.  I am the Truth but
this you already know.  Just try and rest in the Truth and all will be well.
Do you understand who I am now?  I have spoken and my Word will be obeyed.
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I'll take some of those cookies.  Chocolate chips are my favorite especially home made.  YUM YUM!!!!!!!!


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> Okay Vicki,
> But I'd better warn you, I add allmond extract and wallnuts to mine.
> Kathy
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I will pray for you too, Kathy.  And Chris.  I pray that the Lord will touch him in a specail way that will open his eyes.  I know he can, he did for me when I was younger.  And I pray that he gives you total piece.  And you can always cry to Jesus. (I know you know this) he does not care how much or loud you cry.  "He see each tear that fall and hears you when you call."  You have a special place in my heart.  So I was touched when I read your e-mail.  God bless you.


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> Thank you Vinny for asking. God has been gracious to our family by
> helping us to keep Chris busy this summer and that has reduced the strain
> on our family a great deal. In June, he landed a job at a convenience
> store, doing odd jobs for the owner and that takes up about 25 hours a
> week. He took one summer school class in July, that he had to pay for
> and that kept him busy in the mornings for a time as well. He started
> out doing really well, but as soon as he was pretty sure that he would
> pass the class he started lapsing into old patterns of laziness and ended
> up passing with a D. Of course, we, his parents, were disappointed since
> Chris had demonstrated that he was capable of doing much better, but
> we're learning the hard way that you can't make a child care, no matter
> how wise that would be. He continues to have angry outbursts, but they
> are much less frequent and much more controlled so I guess that that is a
> big step forward. I still seem to be the main person that he flares up
> at, but then, we can also hug and I've told him that as long as we can do
> that, we'll get through the rest. Chris agrees.
> Chris has earned enough money to pay for drivers Ed. and he will
> begin that this Wednesday. He wants to keep his job. Money is more
> important than academics right now and we're considering just letting him
> roll with it rather than fight him on it. He knows what is more
> important really, but he doesn't want to do the right thing so we're
> thinking of taking Dr. Kevin Leman's advice and let Chris learn through
> natural consequences of his choices. It might sound kind of wimpy on our
> part, but some day, he's going to wake up and regret chasing the wrong
> things. We all do eventually, especially if God's hand is upon our
> lives, and I believe firmly that, whether Chris knows it or not, he is
> firmly held in God's grasp. I trust that God knows what He is doing.
> Perhaps the hardest time for me this summer with Chris is when my
> oldest son, Matt, left for college. Matt left Maine for Michigan the
> first of August to look for work before school starts. I had a real hard
> time with his leaving, but harder still was chris's attitude of being
> thrilled to finally have a room to himself and he just started pitching
> out Matt's stuff and I had to go through it and try to salvage it before
> it got lost or damaged. Chris was in the type of mood where, if I cried
> he would have blown up and I really had to hold it together to make it
> through. Of course, knowing that Matt still hasn't found work has been
> real agony for me because I know how hard he's trying and Chris seems to
> be totally oblivious to his older brother's struggles. Chris could be
> bluffing. He does try to be the tough guy, but I just find the bluster
> hard to handle at times.
> Well Vinny, I guess that that catches you up on chris. Again,
> thanks for asking, and for praying. I really appreciate it very much!
> Kathy
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I will pray for you too, Kathy.&nbsp; And Chris.&nbsp; I pray that the Lord will touch him in a specail way that will open his eyes.&nbsp; I know he can, he did for me when I was younger.&nbsp; And I pray that he gives you total piece.&nbsp; And you can always cry to Jesus. (I know you know this) he does not care how much or loud you cry.&nbsp; "He see each tear that fall and hears you when you call."&nbsp; You have a special place in my heart.&nbsp; So I was touched when I read your e-mail.&nbsp; God bless you. <BR><BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR><BR>&gt; Thank you Vinny for asking. God has been gracious to our family by <BR>&gt; helping us to keep Chris busy this summer and that has reduced the strain <BR>&gt; on our family a great deal. In June, he landed a job at a convenience <BR>&gt; store, doing odd jobs for the owner and that takes up about 25 hours a <BR>&gt; week. He took one summer school class in July, that he had to pay for <BR>&gt; and that kept him busy in the mornings for a time as well. He started <BR>&gt; out doing really well, but as soon as he was pretty sure that he would <BR>&gt; pass the class he started lapsing into old patterns of laziness and ended <BR>&gt; up passing with a D. Of course, we, his parents, were disappointed since <BR>&gt; Chris had demonstrated that he was capable of doing much better, but <BR>&gt; we're learning the hard way that you can't make a child care, no matter <BR>&gt; how wise that would be. He continues to have angry outbursts, but they <BR>&gt; are much less frequent and much more controlled so I guess that that is a <BR>&gt; big step forward. I still seem to be the main person that he flares up <BR>&gt; at, but then, we can also hug and I've told him that as long as we can do <BR>&gt; that, we'll get through the rest. Chris agrees. <BR>&gt; Chris has earned enough money to pay for drivers Ed. and he will <BR>&gt; begin that this Wednesday. He wants to keep his job. Money is more <BR>&gt; important than academics right now and we're considering just letting him <BR>&gt; roll with it rather than fight him on it. He knows what is more <BR>&gt; important really, but he doesn't want to do the right thing so we're <BR>&gt; thinking of taking Dr. Kevin Leman's advice and let Chris learn through <BR>&gt; natural consequences of his choices. It might sound kind of wimpy on our <BR>&gt; part, but some day, he's going to wake up and regret chasing the wrong <BR>&gt; things. We all do eventually, especially if God's hand is upon our <BR>&gt; lives, and I believe firmly that, whether Chris knows it or not, he is <BR>&gt; firmly held in God's grasp. I trust that God knows what He is doing. <BR>&gt; Perhaps the hardest time for me this summer with Chris is when my <BR>&gt; oldest son, Matt, left for college. Matt left Maine for Michigan the <BR>&gt; first of August to look for work before school starts. I had a real hard <BR>&gt; time with his leaving, but harder still was chris's attitude of being <BR>&gt; thrilled to finally have a room to himself and he just started pitching <BR>&gt; out Matt's stuff and I had to go through it and try to salvage it before <BR>&gt; it got lost or damaged. Chris was in the type of mood where, if I cried <BR>&gt; he would have blown up and I really had to hold it together to make it <BR>&gt; through. Of course, knowing that Matt still hasn't found work has been <BR>&gt; real agony for me because I know how hard he's trying and Chris seems to <BR>&gt; be totally oblivious to his older brother's struggles. Chris could be <BR>&gt; bluffing. He does try to be the tough guy, but I just find the bluster <BR>&gt; hard to handle at times. <BR>&gt; Well Vinny, I guess that that catches you up on chris. Again, <BR>&gt; thanks for asking, and for praying. I really appreciate it very much! <BR>&gt; Kathy <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; ________________________________________________________________ <BR>&gt; The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! <BR>&gt; Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! <BR>&gt; Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! </BLOCKQUOTE></body></html>

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Chris and Brad's son sound like, what I use to be like.  My Daddy called it "Hard headed".  He would say, "Oh, have it your way,  You know it all.  You can't take my word for it so learn it the hard way, Miss Hardheaded."   I wonder if my head got so hard from bumbing it so much when I was little.   I think they will be ok.  They have been raised right and have God on thier sides.  Just keep praying and loving them.


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> Oh Brad,
> Your post is such a relief that, perhaps, we are making the right
> choice. My Chris sounds so much like your son, hands on and everything
> except that Chris is more in to building, not eletronics. Yet, he is
> refusing to take any courses in carpentry or building. He thinks that he
> already knows it all and he would probably flunk if he did take a course
> because he wouldn't do things the way the instructor asked, and chris's
> explanation would no doubt be that the instructor is "stupid!" My Chris
> understands the hurt in the wallet more than anything right now too so
> we've just decided that, some day, Chris will finally buckle down when he
> sees all the losers who hit the books pull ahead of him financially and
> he'll begin to rethink his priorities. The thing is, I know from
> comments he makes from time to time, that what we've taught him is still
> down there, somewhere, churning around. He's just trying to prove us
> wrong right now. His goal in life is to prove that he's right. Can you
> say "CRASH big time," dead ahead?
> Thanks for saying I"m not a wimp, though I feel like it
> sometimes. I'm just tired of the fighting and Greg and I value the
> relationship more than anything else. That's what has to be preserved.
> He'll learn life's lessons in God's time, but we want to get through all
> this with him and not against him.
> Kathy
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Chris and Brad's son sound like, what I use to be like.&nbsp; My Daddy called it "Hard headed".&nbsp; He would say, "Oh, have it your way,&nbsp; You know it all.&nbsp; You can't take my word for it so learn it the hard way, Miss Hardheaded."&nbsp;&nbsp; I wonder if my head got so hard from bumbing it so much when I was little.&nbsp;&nbsp; I think they will be ok.&nbsp; They have been raised right and have God on thier sides.&nbsp; Just keep praying and loving them.&nbsp; <BR><BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR><BR>&gt; Oh Brad, <BR>&gt; Your post is such a relief that, perhaps, we are making the right <BR>&gt; choice. My Chris sounds so much like your son, hands on and everything <BR>&gt; except that Chris is more in to building, not eletronics. Yet, he is <BR>&gt; refusing to take any courses in carpentry or building. He thinks that he <BR>&gt; already knows it all and he would probably flunk if he did take a course <BR>&gt; because he wouldn't do things the way the instructor asked, and chris's <BR>&gt; explanation would no doubt be that the instructor is "stupid!" My Chris <BR>&gt; understands the hurt in the wallet more than anything right now too so <BR>&gt; we've just decided that, some day, Chris will finally buckle down when he <BR>&gt; sees all the losers who hit the books pull ahead of him financially and <BR>&gt; he'll begin to rethink his priorities. The thing is, I know from <BR>&gt; comments he makes from time to time, that what we've taught him is still <BR>&gt; down there, somewhere, churning around. He's just trying to prove us <BR>&gt; wrong right now. His goal in life is to prove that he's right. Can you <BR>&gt; say "CRASH big time," dead ahead? <BR>&gt; Thanks for saying I"m not a wimp, though I feel like it <BR>&gt; sometimes. I'm just tired of the fighting and Greg and I value the <BR>&gt; relationship more than anything else. That's what has to be preserved. <BR>&gt; He'll learn life's lessons in God's time, but we want to get through all <BR>&gt; this with him and not against him. <BR>&gt; Kathy <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; ________________________________________________________________ <BR>&gt; The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! <BR>&gt; Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! <BR>&gt; Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! </BLOCKQUOTE></body></html>

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What you read earlier was, what some call, personal prophecy.  I don't care
if you don't believe in such things and don't ask me to explain it because I
can't.  I don't often do what I did but when it happens, there is a reason.
I rarely do it, overall, but that is beside the point.  In Peggy's case, I
cannot explain it nor do I care to try.  When I wrote to her to let her know
we are with her through this experience she is facing, I wrote the word
"sister" and suddenly stopped typing.  I could not go on.  Saying the word
"sister" was spiritually insufficient and not only that, it was spiritually
wrong.  It was not what I felt in my spirit.  What I felt in my spirit was
"little sister" but Peggy is not my little sister, I don't think anyhow.  I
backed up and typed in the word "little" in front of the word "sister" and
felt stupid doing so.  I sat for a moment and said, "Lord, that is stupid.
What are we talking about here.  So I began to write the rest of the
message.  No, it was not automatic writing; that is demonic.  I knew every
word I typed and why.  If it makes you feel uncomfortable, I don't feel
sorry for you because it wasn't written for you.  What if you are wrong, I
can hear someone asking.  So?  I've been wrong before.  I wrote what I felt,
not heard, but what I felt in my spirit.  That's the best I can do and Jesus
has to do the rest but I obeyed what He told me to do.  No, I don't know
Peggy personally.  I've talked to her on the phone once or twice but a long
time ago.  You know her as well as I do if you are on this list.  I know one
thing.  When I wrote that message, I felt God's love for Peggy flowing
through me and that's all I am concerned about.

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You did the right thing Phil.  You obeyed God and that all that matters.  It does not matter what others think or say.  Only God's opinion is the one we have to worry about.  And I know God is please with your obediance.


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> What you read earlier was, what some call, personal prophecy. I don't care
> if you don't believe in such things and don't ask me to explain it because I
> can't. I don't often do what I did but when it happens, there is a reason.
> I rarely do it, overall, but that is beside the point. In Peggy's case, I
> cannot explain it nor do I care to try. When I wrote to her to let her know
> we are with her through this experience she is facing, I wrote the word
> "sister" and suddenly stopped typing. I could not go on. Saying the word
> "sister" was spiritually insufficient and not only that, it was spiritually
> wrong. It was not what I felt in my spirit. What I felt in my spirit was
> "little sister" but Peggy is not my little sister, I don't think anyhow. I
> backed up and typed in the word "little" in front of the word "sister" and
> felt stupid doing so. I sat for a moment and said, "Lord, that is stupid.
> What are we talking about here. So I began to write the rest of the
> message. No, it was not automatic writing; that is demonic. I knew every
> word I typed and why. If it makes you feel uncomfortable, I don't feel
> sorry for you because it wasn't written for you. What if you are wrong, I
> can hear someone asking. So? I've been wrong before. I wrote what I felt,
> not heard, but what I felt in my spirit. That's the best I can do and Jesus
> has to do the rest but I obeyed what He told me to do. No, I don't know
> Peggy personally. I've talked to her on the phone once or twice but a long
> time ago. You know her as well as I do if you are on this list. I know one
> thing. When I wrote that message, I felt God's love for Peggy flowing
> through me and that's all I am concerned about.
>
> Phil.
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You did the right thing Phil.&nbsp; You obeyed God and that all that matters.&nbsp; It does not matter what others think or say.&nbsp; Only God's opinion is the one we have to worry about.&nbsp; And I know God is please with your obediance.&nbsp; <BR><BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR><BR>&gt; What you read earlier was, what some call, personal prophecy. I don't care <BR>&gt; if you don't believe in such things and don't ask me to explain it because I <BR>&gt; can't. I don't often do what I did but when it happens, there is a reason. <BR>&gt; I rarely do it, overall, but that is beside the point. In Peggy's case, I <BR>&gt; cannot explain it nor do I care to try. When I wrote to her to let her know <BR>&gt; we are with her through this experience she is facing, I wrote the word <BR>&gt; "sister" and suddenly stopped typing. I could not go on. Saying the word <BR>&gt; "sister" was spiritually insufficient and not only that, it was spiritually <BR>&gt; wrong. It was not what I felt in my spirit. What I felt in my spirit was <BR>&gt; "little sister" but Peggy is not my little sister, I don't think anyhow. I <BR>&gt; backed up and typed in the word "little" in front of the word "sister" and <BR>&gt; felt stupid doing so. I sat for a moment and said, "Lord, that is stupid. <BR>&gt; What are we talking about here. So I began to write the rest of the <BR>&gt; message. No, it was not automatic writing; that is demonic. I knew every <BR>&gt; word I typed and why. If it makes you feel uncomfortable, I don't feel <BR>&gt; sorry for you because it wasn't written for you. What if you are wrong, I <BR>&gt; can hear someone asking. So? I've been wrong before. I wrote what I felt, <BR>&gt; not heard, but what I felt in my spirit. That's the best I can do and Jesus <BR>&gt; has to do the rest but I obeyed what He told me to do. No, I don't know <BR>&gt; Peggy personally. I've talked to her on the phone once or twice but a long <BR>&gt; time ago. You know her as well as I do if you are on this list. I know one <BR>&gt; thing. When I wrote that message, I felt God's love for Peggy flowing <BR>&gt; through me and that's all I am concerned about. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Phil. </BLOCKQUOTE></body></html>

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Good morning, E Church Family,

I've been away for nearly a month, waiting on the Lord to bring healing to
my spirit, which had been deeply wounded.  The healing is not complete as
yet, because I have hindered the Lord by my own foolishness.  But I'm
convicted of that, and am bringing an end to it so that the Lord may have
the freedom He desires to answer my prayers for healing.  I know some of
you have prayed for me, and for that I am deeply grateful.

Looking forward to sweet fellowship with you in the Lord.

Love and blessings,
Helen
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My dear Helen,

How great!  I only got back yesterday.

Time for a party, folks!

I shall be praying with you through this difficult time and will set
some time.  God will honour and bless you, dear sister, and He will
bring you through this time to a new beginning.

Each day is a new day and I don't know either quite what the Lord meant
as I wrote that to Helen, just as Phil didn't know yesterday, but I
write as my fingers went and my heart was there!

Blessings to all:


--
Carol
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Subject: Back again


Good morning, E Church Family,

I've been away for nearly a month, waiting on the Lord to bring healing
to my spirit, which had been deeply wounded.  The healing is not
complete as yet, because I have hindered the Lord by my own foolishness.
But I'm convicted of that, and am bringing an end to it so that the Lord
may have the freedom He desires to answer my prayers for healing.  I
know some of you have prayed for me, and for that I am deeply grateful.

Looking forward to sweet fellowship with you in the Lord.

Love and blessings,
Helen

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Dearest Carol,

What a wonderful surprise to see you back here, also!!  Yes, it truly is
party time, and I'm all for it!  Smile

I accept with gratitude this that you wrote:  God will honour and bless
you, dear sister, and He will bring you through this time to a new
beginning.  Never have I had such faithful sisters and brothers as you on
this list have been to me.

Carol, I pray that God has brought you through the physical suffering you
have been experiencing, and that total healing is yours this day!

In His Love, and a big HUG from me,
Helen


Earlier, Carol Pearson wrote:
>My dear Helen,
>
>How great!  I only got back yesterday.
>
>Time for a party, folks!
>
>I shall be praying with you through this difficult time and will set
>some time.  God will honour and bless you, dear sister, and He will
>bring you through this time to a new beginning.
>
>Each day is a new day and I don't know either quite what the Lord meant
>as I wrote that to Helen, just as Phil didn't know yesterday, but I
>write as my fingers went and my heart was there!
>
>Blessings to all:
>
>
>--
>Carol
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>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Helen
>Sent: 24 August 2004 12:50
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Back again
>
>
>Good morning, E Church Family,
>
>I've been away for nearly a month, waiting on the Lord to bring healing
>to my spirit, which had been deeply wounded.  The healing is not
>complete as yet, because I have hindered the Lord by my own foolishness.
>But I'm convicted of that, and am bringing an end to it so that the Lord
>may have the freedom He desires to answer my prayers for healing.  I
>know some of you have prayed for me, and for that I am deeply grateful.
>
>Looking forward to sweet fellowship with you in the Lord.
>
>Love and blessings,
>Helen
>
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Date:         Tue, 24 Aug 2004 06:21:45 -0600
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Hi,

Just time enough to note that this is my first day of school and I'm without
a book.  So do pray for that situation.  I woke with a tremendous headache,
and before school, I have to get through a day of work.  My class is late
this time.  It will be just before 9:00 by the time I get home.  Tuesday and
Thursday will be my long days.  Guess I'm glad it's not Monday.  Smile.
Trusting in the Lord's strength and help today.

Blessing to each of you.
Vicki
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I think Carol's right.  Party time is in order.  Smile.

Will continue with you in prayer.  God is faithful Helen.  He will do for
you what you cannot do for yourself.

Vicki

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Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 5:50 AM
Subject: Back again


> Good morning, E Church Family,
>
> I've been away for nearly a month, waiting on the Lord to bring healing to
> my spirit, which had been deeply wounded.  The healing is not complete as
> yet, because I have hindered the Lord by my own foolishness.  But I'm
> convicted of that, and am bringing an end to it so that the Lord may have
> the freedom He desires to answer my prayers for healing.  I know some of
> you have prayed for me, and for that I am deeply grateful.
>
> Looking forward to sweet fellowship with you in the Lord.
>
> Love and blessings,
> Helen
>
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Date:         Tue, 24 Aug 2004 08:27:47 -0400
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Dear Vicki,

I pray your headache will disappear, and that your book will
appear!!  Sounds like very long days you'll be having on Tuesdays and
Thursdays, and I pray you the strength of the Lord to get you through with
great success.

Thinking of you and praying for you as you enjoy your coffee this
morning!  Smile

Hugs,
Helen

Earlier, Vicki and The Rors wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Just time enough to note that this is my first day of school and I'm without
>a book.  So do pray for that situation.  I woke with a tremendous headache,
>and before school, I have to get through a day of work.  My class is late
>this time.  It will be just before 9:00 by the time I get home.  Tuesday and
>Thursday will be my long days.  Guess I'm glad it's not Monday.  Smile.
>Trusting in the Lord's strength and help today.
>
>Blessing to each of you.
>Vicki
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Thanks, Vicki.  I stand on the faithfulness of our Lord Jesus, and am
comforted in the fellowship with you and Carol, and others in our midst.

Hugs,
Helen

Earlier, Vicki and The Rors wrote:
>I think Carol's right.  Party time is in order.  Smile.
>
>Will continue with you in prayer.  God is faithful Helen.  He will do for
>you what you cannot do for yourself.
>
>Vicki
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Helen" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 5:50 AM
>Subject: Back again
>
>
> > Good morning, E Church Family,
> >
> > I've been away for nearly a month, waiting on the Lord to bring healing to
> > my spirit, which had been deeply wounded.  The healing is not complete as
> > yet, because I have hindered the Lord by my own foolishness.  But I'm
> > convicted of that, and am bringing an end to it so that the Lord may have
> > the freedom He desires to answer my prayers for healing.  I know some of
> > you have prayed for me, and for that I am deeply grateful.
> >
> > Looking forward to sweet fellowship with you in the Lord.
> >
> > Love and blessings,
> > Helen
> >
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Hi Helen,

You'll need to go on praying for the health issues for me, Helen.  I
have added a few more since I was around last year.  At present I'm
trying not to scratch bad eczema on my feet and legs.  My back continues
to give problems when it feels like it and not when I do.  Additionally
I have had a total of seven really bad ear infections in the last two
and a half years and am just getting over the last, with suggestions
from the hospital that they may do a small operation soon to widen the
arteries in my ears as the canals are now so very narrow.  You can
imagine, perhaps, that this causes extra bad pain when infections
(started by eczema) take hold.

Enough of this!  I'm out of here for coffee!  More later.

Love and hugs to you and all:


--
Carol




-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 24 August 2004 13:19
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Subject: Re: Back again


Dearest Carol,

What a wonderful surprise to see you back here, also!!  Yes, it truly is
party time, and I'm all for it!  Smile

I accept with gratitude this that you wrote:  God will honour and bless
you, dear sister, and He will bring you through this time to a new
beginning.  Never have I had such faithful sisters and brothers as you
on this list have been to me.

Carol, I pray that God has brought you through the physical suffering
you have been experiencing, and that total healing is yours this day!

In His Love, and a big HUG from me,
Helen


Earlier, Carol Pearson wrote:
>My dear Helen,
>
>How great!  I only got back yesterday.
>
>Time for a party, folks!
>
>I shall be praying with you through this difficult time and will set
>some time.  God will honour and bless you, dear sister, and He will
>bring you through this time to a new beginning.
>
>Each day is a new day and I don't know either quite what the Lord meant

>as I wrote that to Helen, just as Phil didn't know yesterday, but I
>write as my fingers went and my heart was there!
>
>Blessings to all:
>
>
>--
>Carol
>[log in to unmask]
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Helen
>Sent: 24 August 2004 12:50
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Back again
>
>
>Good morning, E Church Family,
>
>I've been away for nearly a month, waiting on the Lord to bring healing

>to my spirit, which had been deeply wounded.  The healing is not
>complete as yet, because I have hindered the Lord by my own
>foolishness. But I'm convicted of that, and am bringing an end to it so

>that the Lord may have the freedom He desires to answer my prayers for
>healing.  I know some of you have prayed for me, and for that I am
>deeply grateful.
>
>Looking forward to sweet fellowship with you in the Lord.
>
>Love and blessings,
>Helen
>
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All I can say is that you're a real glutton for punishment!  The more
you can get . . . well, perhaps I'd best not tease any more but say,
seriously, that I'm praying for you right now as I am at my computer.

I should have left for that coffee two mins ago when I'd finished
Helen's response so now I'm running quick before I notice any more
messages from my friends!

In Him:


--
Carol
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-----Original Message-----
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Rors
Sent: 24 August 2004 13:22
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Subject: Quick Prayer Request from Vicki


Hi,

Just time enough to note that this is my first day of school and I'm
without a book.  So do pray for that situation.  I woke with a
tremendous headache, and before school, I have to get through a day of
work.  My class is late this time.  It will be just before 9:00 by the
time I get home.  Tuesday and Thursday will be my long days.  Guess I'm
glad it's not Monday.  Smile. Trusting in the Lord's strength and help
today.

Blessing to each of you.
Vicki

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Date:         Tue, 24 Aug 2004 09:17:03 -0400
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I thought this such good spiritual food for today, so will share it with you.
Be blessed.

Helen

"You crowned Him with glory and honor and put
  all things under His feet. In putting all things
  under Him, God left nothing that is not subject
  to Him." Hebrews 2:7-8

All your afflictions are put under the feet of Jesus! You may
think at times how harshly you are dealt with--mourning, it
may be, under family bereavements, sorrowing after the loss
of your 'household treasures'--a beloved husband, wife, or
child. But O that you could bear in mind that all your
afflictions, be they what they may, are put under the feet
of Jesus, so that, so to speak, not one can crawl from under
His feet but by His permission--and, like scolded hounds, they
crawl again beneath them at a word of command from His lips!

Let us then hold fast this truth, for on it depends so
much of our comfort.
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Hey Helen,
It's good to hear from you.  I've missed your posts.  Did you know that i
have half a house now?
Kathy

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Well Vicki, You anhd I had already agreed to bake the cookies.  Now we
just need something to drink and some ice cream, some chips & dip and,
well, maybe we should have some vegies for the health minded among us
and we're all set!  Let's party!
Kathy

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Hey Kathy,

It's good to be back!  No, I didn't know that you have half a house
now!  Which half is it?  Smile  The last I heard about it was that while
you were on vacation, not much was done to it.  I'm so glad it is finally
getting finished.  Before we know it, the snows will be flying, and I do
pray you and your family will be nestled inside, all cozy, warm, and safe
from the winter storms, enjoying the fruits of your labors, and the fruits
of God's Grace.

Love and hugs,
Helen

Earlier, Kathy Du Bois wrote:
>Hey Helen,
>It's good to hear from you.  I've missed your posts.  Did you know that i
>have half a house now?
>Kathy
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Date:         Tue, 24 Aug 2004 11:18:55 -0500
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Vicki,

I'm praying for you, that The Lord will provide that book for you in the
format that is pleasing to you. I'm Praying for your headake, and everything.

Many lovings and squeezings to get you through the Semester.

Love and Blessings,
Pat Ferguson
At 07:21 AM 8/24/04, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Just time enough to note that this is my first day of school and I'm without
>a book.  So do pray for that situation.  I woke with a tremendous headache,
>and before school, I have to get through a day of work.  My class is late
>this time.  It will be just before 9:00 by the time I get home.  Tuesday and
>Thursday will be my long days.  Guess I'm glad it's not Monday.  Smile.
>Trusting in the Lord's strength and help today.
>
>Blessing to each of you.
>Vicki
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Dear loving Helen,

I write this message to you with tears in my eyes.

I'm praying for you Loving One. I'm praying that God will give you a
healing, and that you will be comforted in His love and Grace.

I know what it is like to have your spirit woonded. I've been deeply hurt
lately by my Mother, and I'll share that with you all in another message.

Helen, if you ever want to talk, I can call you any time.

You are such a sweet blessing to all of us, and we love you more than you
will ever know.

I just wish I could squeeze everyone with a broken heart and let them know
they are loving, despite what my Mother said to me which hurt me deeply.

Many lovings and squeezings for you, Helen, and Praying for God's comfort
and peace and complete healing for your broken spirit.

Love and Blessings,
Pat Ferguson


At 06:50 AM 8/24/04, you wrote:
>Good morning, E Church Family,
>
>I've been away for nearly a month, waiting on the Lord to bring healing to
>my spirit, which had been deeply wounded.  The healing is not complete as
>yet, because I have hindered the Lord by my own foolishness.  But I'm
>convicted of that, and am bringing an end to it so that the Lord may have
>the freedom He desires to answer my prayers for healing.  I know some of
>you have prayed for me, and for that I am deeply grateful.
>
>Looking forward to sweet fellowship with you in the Lord.
>
>Love and blessings,
>Helen
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Phil,

I do believe in Personal prophecy, and I new that was Prophecy when I read
that message from you, to Peggy.

Remember, the word "little" is often used as a way of showing affection.
<smile> I don't believe there was anything wrong with that message at all.
The Lord was speaking through you.

I'm praying for you, Phil.

Love and Blessings,
Pat Ferguson
At 12:14 AM 8/24/04, you wrote:
>What you read earlier was, what some call, personal prophecy.  I don't care
>if you don't believe in such things and don't ask me to explain it because I
>can't.  I don't often do what I did but when it happens, there is a reason.
>I rarely do it, overall, but that is beside the point.  In Peggy's case, I
>cannot explain it nor do I care to try.  When I wrote to her to let her know
>we are with her through this experience she is facing, I wrote the word
>"sister" and suddenly stopped typing.  I could not go on.  Saying the word
>"sister" was spiritually insufficient and not only that, it was spiritually
>wrong.  It was not what I felt in my spirit.  What I felt in my spirit was
>"little sister" but Peggy is not my little sister, I don't think anyhow.  I
>backed up and typed in the word "little" in front of the word "sister" and
>felt stupid doing so.  I sat for a moment and said, "Lord, that is stupid.
>What are we talking about here.  So I began to write the rest of the
>message.  No, it was not automatic writing; that is demonic.  I knew every
>word I typed and why.  If it makes you feel uncomfortable, I don't feel
>sorry for you because it wasn't written for you.  What if you are wrong, I
>can hear someone asking.  So?  I've been wrong before.  I wrote what I felt,
>not heard, but what I felt in my spirit.  That's the best I can do and Jesus
>has to do the rest but I obeyed what He told me to do.  No, I don't know
>Peggy personally.  I've talked to her on the phone once or twice but a long
>time ago.  You know her as well as I do if you are on this list.  I know one
>thing.  When I wrote that message, I felt God's love for Peggy flowing
>through me and that's all I am concerned about.
>
>Phil.
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Kathy,

I'm praying for you and for all your family.

Many lovings and squeezings for you and Greg.

Love and Blessings,
Pat Ferguson



At 01:36 PM 8/23/04, you wrote:
>Thank you Vinny for asking.  God has been gracious to our family by
>helping us to keep Chris busy this summer and that has reduced the strain
>on our family a great deal.  In June, he landed a job at a convenience
>store, doing odd jobs for the owner and that takes up about 25 hours a
>week.  He took one summer school class in July, that he had to pay for
>and that kept him busy in the mornings for a time as well.  He started
>out doing really well, but as soon as he was pretty sure that he would
>pass the class he started lapsing into old patterns of laziness and ended
>up passing with a D.  Of course, we, his parents, were disappointed since
>Chris had demonstrated that he was capable of doing much better, but
>we're learning the hard way that you can't make a child care, no matter
>how wise that would be.  He continues to have angry outbursts, but they
>are much less frequent and much more controlled so I guess that that is a
>big step forward.  I still seem to be the main person that he flares up
>at, but then, we can also hug and I've told him that as long as we can do
>that, we'll get through the rest.  Chris agrees.
>         Chris has earned enough money to pay for drivers Ed. and he will
>begin that this Wednesday.  He wants to keep his job.  Money is more
>important than academics right now and we're considering just letting him
>roll with it rather than fight him on it.  He knows what is more
>important really, but he doesn't want to do the right thing so we're
>thinking of taking Dr. Kevin Leman's advice and let Chris learn through
>natural consequences of his choices.  It might sound kind of wimpy on our
>part, but some day, he's going to wake up and regret chasing the wrong
>things.  We all do eventually, especially if God's hand is upon our
>lives, and I believe firmly that, whether Chris knows it or not, he is
>firmly held in God's grasp.  I trust that God knows what He is doing.
>         Perhaps the hardest time for me this summer with Chris is when my
>oldest son, Matt, left for college.  Matt left Maine for Michigan the
>first of August to look for work before school starts.  I had a real hard
>time with his leaving, but harder still was chris's attitude of being
>thrilled to finally have a room to himself and he just started pitching
>out Matt's stuff and I had to go through it and try to salvage it before
>it got lost or damaged.  Chris was in the type of mood where, if I cried
>he would have blown up and I really had to hold it together to make it
>through.  Of course, knowing that Matt still hasn't found work has been
>real agony for me because I know how hard he's trying and Chris seems to
>be totally oblivious to his older brother's struggles.  Chris could be
>bluffing.  He does try to be the tough guy, but I just find the bluster
>hard to handle at times.
>         Well Vinny, I guess that that catches you up on chris.  Again,
>thanks for asking, and for praying.  I really appreciate it very much!
>Kathy
>
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Helen,

As so many have expressed already, welcome back. In reading your note of a
wounded spirit", it caused me to think  on how that can differ from a
wounded heart or emotion. We sometimes get our heart broken in one form or
another, or have our feelings tossed on the rocks by others comments or
even our own negative or unloving as Pat might say, actions or words
towards others which betray our value of God's absolutes and we find we
have hurt someone else. As hard as that is to sometimes deal with, a
wounded spirit,   seems to cut deeper. Yet it seems to heal all the faster.
With your recognition of hindering God to heal it, you are nearly there.
Just remember to give your self justification. Just as happiness
is  emotional happenstance compared to joy being a spiritual gift, excuses
is emotional irresponsibility, but justification is a spiritual gift. God
is in the Justification business. Just if I'd *smile* Just if I'd not sinned.

Good to have you back.

Brad



Helen wrote:
>Good morning, E Church Family,
>
>I've been away for nearly a month, waiting on the Lord to bring healing to
>my spirit, which had been deeply wounded.  The healing is not complete as
>yet, because I have hindered the Lord by my own foolishness.  But I'm
>convicted of that, and am bringing an end to it so that the Lord may have
>the freedom He desires to answer my prayers for healing.  I know some of
>you have prayed for me, and for that I am deeply grateful.
>
>Looking forward to sweet fellowship with you in the Lord.
>
>Love and blessings,
>Helen

Brad

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Hi Peggy,
Lord bless you today and give the doctors all the knowledge and wisdom they
need to deal with this.
Vinny
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Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 10:07 PM
Subject: Prayer request from Peggy, August 22


> Hi, all.  I figure the above subject line would help us keep track of what
> prayer request and from whom we were dealing with.  <grin>
>
> This past Friday I found a tiny lump in my breast.  I thought at first I
> was being a hypochondriac, because I've had two co-workers develop breast
> cancer.  One caught it early and is okay, since it didn't affect her lymph
> nodes.  The other wasn't so lucky, in that her cancer spread, and the
> prognosis doesn't look good.  Anyway, I kept looking at the lump, which
I'd
> sometimes find easily and other times not at all, wondering if it was my
> imagination.  Finally last night I told my husband about it and showed him
> the spot, and he felt it too.  It seems to be near the surface, and
doesn't
> seem to be attached to anything, so we're hoping it's just a cyst.  But I
> have an appoihntment on Tuesday to have it checked out, so pray that I
have
> peace about the situation until then, and that God gives the doctor wisdom
> in how to deal with it.  Thanks.
>
> Peggy
>
>
>
> mailto:[log in to unmask]
> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~kernsac
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Hi Cathy,
Thanks for sharing about Chris.  I'll believe with you that all of you are
going to get through this time perfectly whole, and Christ is going to come
through knowing the Lord more than ever before.
Vinny
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kathy Du Bois" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 11:36 AM
Subject: My son Chris.


> Thank you Vinny for asking.  God has been gracious to our family by
> helping us to keep Chris busy this summer and that has reduced the strain
> on our family a great deal.  In June, he landed a job at a convenience
> store, doing odd jobs for the owner and that takes up about 25 hours a
> week.  He took one summer school class in July, that he had to pay for
> and that kept him busy in the mornings for a time as well.  He started
> out doing really well, but as soon as he was pretty sure that he would
> pass the class he started lapsing into old patterns of laziness and ended
> up passing with a D.  Of course, we, his parents, were disappointed since
> Chris had demonstrated that he was capable of doing much better, but
> we're learning the hard way that you can't make a child care, no matter
> how wise that would be.  He continues to have angry outbursts, but they
> are much less frequent and much more controlled so I guess that that is a
> big step forward.  I still seem to be the main person that he flares up
> at, but then, we can also hug and I've told him that as long as we can do
> that, we'll get through the rest.  Chris agrees.
>         Chris has earned enough money to pay for drivers Ed. and he will
> begin that this Wednesday.  He wants to keep his job.  Money is more
> important than academics right now and we're considering just letting him
> roll with it rather than fight him on it.  He knows what is more
> important really, but he doesn't want to do the right thing so we're
> thinking of taking Dr. Kevin Leman's advice and let Chris learn through
> natural consequences of his choices.  It might sound kind of wimpy on our
> part, but some day, he's going to wake up and regret chasing the wrong
> things.  We all do eventually, especially if God's hand is upon our
> lives, and I believe firmly that, whether Chris knows it or not, he is
> firmly held in God's grasp.  I trust that God knows what He is doing.
>         Perhaps the hardest time for me this summer with Chris is when my
> oldest son, Matt, left for college.  Matt left Maine for Michigan the
> first of August to look for work before school starts.  I had a real hard
> time with his leaving, but harder still was chris's attitude of being
> thrilled to finally have a room to himself and he just started pitching
> out Matt's stuff and I had to go through it and try to salvage it before
> it got lost or damaged.  Chris was in the type of mood where, if I cried
> he would have blown up and I really had to hold it together to make it
> through.  Of course, knowing that Matt still hasn't found work has been
> real agony for me because I know how hard he's trying and Chris seems to
> be totally oblivious to his older brother's struggles.  Chris could be
> bluffing.  He does try to be the tough guy, but I just find the bluster
> hard to handle at times.
>         Well Vinny, I guess that that catches you up on chris.  Again,
> thanks for asking, and for praying.  I really appreciate it very much!
> Kathy
>
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Good for you Phil.  Keep obeying the Lord.
Vinny
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 10:14 PM
Subject: Personal Prophecies


> What you read earlier was, what some call, personal prophecy.  I don't
care
> if you don't believe in such things and don't ask me to explain it because
I
> can't.  I don't often do what I did but when it happens, there is a
reason.
> I rarely do it, overall, but that is beside the point.  In Peggy's case, I
> cannot explain it nor do I care to try.  When I wrote to her to let her
know
> we are with her through this experience she is facing, I wrote the word
> "sister" and suddenly stopped typing.  I could not go on.  Saying the word
> "sister" was spiritually insufficient and not only that, it was
spiritually
> wrong.  It was not what I felt in my spirit.  What I felt in my spirit was
> "little sister" but Peggy is not my little sister, I don't think anyhow.
I
> backed up and typed in the word "little" in front of the word "sister" and
> felt stupid doing so.  I sat for a moment and said, "Lord, that is stupid.
> What are we talking about here.  So I began to write the rest of the
> message.  No, it was not automatic writing; that is demonic.  I knew every
> word I typed and why.  If it makes you feel uncomfortable, I don't feel
> sorry for you because it wasn't written for you.  What if you are wrong, I
> can hear someone asking.  So?  I've been wrong before.  I wrote what I
felt,
> not heard, but what I felt in my spirit.  That's the best I can do and
Jesus
> has to do the rest but I obeyed what He told me to do.  No, I don't know
> Peggy personally.  I've talked to her on the phone once or twice but a
long
> time ago.  You know her as well as I do if you are on this list.  I know
one
> thing.  When I wrote that message, I felt God's love for Peggy flowing
> through me and that's all I am concerned about.
>
> Phil.
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Hi Helen,
So good to hear from you again.  It seems like everyone is coming back at
once this week, myself, Carol, and now you.  Wonderful.
I know I can speak for all of us in telling you how much we have always
loved and appreciated you.
God bless.
Vinny
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Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 4:50 AM
Subject: Back again


> Good morning, E Church Family,
>
> I've been away for nearly a month, waiting on the Lord to bring healing to
> my spirit, which had been deeply wounded.  The healing is not complete as
> yet, because I have hindered the Lord by my own foolishness.  But I'm
> convicted of that, and am bringing an end to it so that the Lord may have
> the freedom He desires to answer my prayers for healing.  I know some of
> you have prayed for me, and for that I am deeply grateful.
>
> Looking forward to sweet fellowship with you in the Lord.
>
> Love and blessings,
> Helen
>
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Date:         Tue, 24 Aug 2004 09:53:33 -0700
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Hi Phil,
This is the first post I have seen from you since I have been back, and
since I'm too cheap to call, (smile) I wanted to publicly thank you for
being willing to write to the list owners and unsub me from those lists
after the mother board on my computer blew up.  I'm sure you have seen my
report about my last two months.  God bless.
Vinny
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Oh Vicki,
I shure know what that's like to be in school without books.  May the Lord
lead you and show you how to deal with that situation.

Vinny
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> Hi,
>
> Just time enough to note that this is my first day of school and I'm
without
> a book.  So do pray for that situation.  I woke with a tremendous
headache,
> and before school, I have to get through a day of work.  My class is late
> this time.  It will be just before 9:00 by the time I get home.  Tuesday
and
> Thursday will be my long days.  Guess I'm glad it's not Monday.  Smile.
> Trusting in the Lord's strength and help today.
>
> Blessing to each of you.
> Vicki
>
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Date:         Tue, 24 Aug 2004 13:20:38 -0400
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Thank you, dear loving Pat,

With so many praying for me, and upholding me to the Father, the complete
healing of my spirit will surely come quickly.  God is so good!  And I pray
the same for you, that your wounded spirit will heal quickly as well.  This
scripture always ministers to me:

Pr 18:14  The spirit of a man will sustain his infirmity; but a wounded
spirit who can bear?

This tells me that when our spirits are wounded, if they are not healed
quickly, it hinders us from being healed of our physical infirmities.

In Him, and with my love,
Helen



Earlier, Pat Ferguson wrote:
>Dear loving Helen,
>
>I write this message to you with tears in my eyes.
>
>I'm praying for you Loving One. I'm praying that God will give you a
>healing, and that you will be comforted in His love and Grace.
>
>I know what it is like to have your spirit woonded. I've been deeply hurt
>lately by my Mother, and I'll share that with you all in another message.
>
>Helen, if you ever want to talk, I can call you any time.
>
>You are such a sweet blessing to all of us, and we love you more than you
>will ever know.
>
>I just wish I could squeeze everyone with a broken heart and let them know
>they are loving, despite what my Mother said to me which hurt me deeply.
>
>Many lovings and squeezings for you, Helen, and Praying for God's comfort
>and peace and complete healing for your broken spirit.
>
>Love and Blessings,
>Pat Ferguson
>
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Pray hard Helen!  They're expecting this house to take at least six more
weeks.They're way behind schedule and they're not working here today at
all.  We're still waiting on the plumber.  I guess that my chocolate chip
cookies didn't work.  Hmmmm, maybe brownies loaded with chocolate chips
would bring him round.  Hey Pat, what do construction workers like?
Kathy

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Date:         Tue, 24 Aug 2004 13:37:49 -0400
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Hi, Vinny,

Your precious words have brought tears to my eyes.  To know the love of God
expressed through you and others here in this fellowship is what I have
needed.  I could think it was a mistake for me to leave for a month,
thinking I was waiting on the Lord to heal me in spite of my disobedience
to Him, except that I recall the little devotional I posted earlier which
reminded me that all of this is under the Feet of Jesus, and no thing has
happened to any of us except as He has allowed it for His own greater Glory.

Welcome back to you, too, Vinny!  I have always been blessed by your writings.

Love,
Helen

Earlier, Vinny Samarco wrote:
>Hi Helen,
>So good to hear from you again.  It seems like everyone is coming back at
>once this week, myself, Carol, and now you.  Wonderful.
>I know I can speak for all of us in telling you how much we have always
>loved and appreciated you.
>God bless.
>Vinny



>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Helen" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 4:50 AM
>Subject: Back again
>
>
> > Good morning, E Church Family,
> >
> > I've been away for nearly a month, waiting on the Lord to bring healing to
> > my spirit, which had been deeply wounded.  The healing is not complete as
> > yet, because I have hindered the Lord by my own foolishness.  But I'm
> > convicted of that, and am bringing an end to it so that the Lord may have
> > the freedom He desires to answer my prayers for healing.  I know some of
> > you have prayed for me, and for that I am deeply grateful.
> >
> > Looking forward to sweet fellowship with you in the Lord.
> >
> > Love and blessings,
> > Helen
> >
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Dear Brad,

As usual, your kind words of wisdom and insight have blessed me this
day.  Yes, a wounded spirit does cut deeper, and mine would have been
healed by now except for my disobedience in not heeding His instructions to
me.  I like what you say about justification.   Justified by His Blood,
Romans 5:9, and justified by His Grace,
Titus 3:7.
Thank you for your warm welcome back.

Love,
Helen


Earlier, Brad Dunse wrote:
>Helen,
>
>As so many have expressed already, welcome back. In reading your note of a
>wounded spirit", it caused me to think  on how that can differ from a
>wounded heart or emotion. We sometimes get our heart broken in one form or
>another, or have our feelings tossed on the rocks by others comments or
>even our own negative or unloving as Pat might say, actions or words
>towards others which betray our value of God's absolutes and we find we
>have hurt someone else. As hard as that is to sometimes deal with, a
>wounded spirit,   seems to cut deeper. Yet it seems to heal all the faster.
>With your recognition of hindering God to heal it, you are nearly there.
>Just remember to give your self justification. Just as happiness
>is  emotional happenstance compared to joy being a spiritual gift, excuses
>is emotional irresponsibility, but justification is a spiritual gift. God
>is in the Justification business. Just if I'd *smile* Just if I'd not sinned.
>
>Good to have you back.
>
>Brad
>
>
>
>Helen wrote:
> >Good morning, E Church Family,
> >
> >I've been away for nearly a month, waiting on the Lord to bring healing to
> >my spirit, which had been deeply wounded.  The healing is not complete as
> >yet, because I have hindered the Lord by my own foolishness.  But I'm
> >convicted of that, and am bringing an end to it so that the Lord may have
> >the freedom He desires to answer my prayers for healing.  I know some of
> >you have prayed for me, and for that I am deeply grateful.
> >
> >Looking forward to sweet fellowship with you in the Lord.
> >
> >Love and blessings,
> >Helen
>
>Brad
>
>    Some folks wear their halos much too tight
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Hi Helen,  I will pray for a complete and perfect healing in the name of Jesus.  Amen.


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> Good morning, E Church Family,
>
> I've been away for nearly a month, waiting on the Lord to bring healing to
> my spirit, which had been deeply wounded. The healing is not complete as
> yet, because I have hindered the Lord by my own foolishness. But I'm
> convicted of that, and am bringing an end to it so that the Lord may have
> the freedom He desires to answer my prayers for healing. I know some of
> you have prayed for me, and for that I am deeply grateful.
>
> Looking forward to sweet fellowship with you in the Lord.
>
> Love and blessings,
> Helen
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Kathy, six weeks will take it into early October, where there will still be
time before we get snow.  And you know what?  Our God doesn't work by
time.  He doesn't live in time as we know it, for He is
Eternal.  Yesterday, today, and tomorrow are the same with Him.  I guess
what I'm saying is that with Him, that house is already completed!!  So not
to worry.  It is all in His Carpenter Hands, anyway.  Smile

Love,
Helen

Earlier, Kathy Du Bois wrote:
>Pray hard Helen!  They're expecting this house to take at least six more
>weeks.They're way behind schedule and they're not working here today at
>all.  We're still waiting on the plumber.  I guess that my chocolate chip
>cookies didn't work.  Hmmmm, maybe brownies loaded with chocolate chips
>would bring him round.  Hey Pat, what do construction workers like?
>Kathy
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Don't forget the pizza.


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> Well Vicki, You anhd I had already agreed to bake the cookies. Now we
> just need something to drink and some ice cream, some chips & dip and,
> well, maybe we should have some vegies for the health minded among us
> and we're all set! Let's party!
> Kathy
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Hi, Karen,

I'm not sure I've seen your name before.  But it's nice to meet you anyway,
and I thank you for praying for me.  I lay awake most of last night,
wondering what I could do to change the circumstances that had caused the
wounding, and the more I tried to figure it out, the more the Lord said,
No.  It is nothing you can do.  It is entirely in My Hands, in what I will
do.......not you, but Me, said the Lord.
Then He sent me a message through Phil at 3:30 this morning, confirming to
me the plans God had for me this day.  God is so wonderful in the care He
provides for those of us who know Him and love Him.

In His Perfect Love,
Helen

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>Hi Helen,  I will pray for a complete and perfect healing in the name of
>Jesus.  Amen.
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>
> > Good morning, E Church Family,
> >
> > I've been away for nearly a month, waiting on the Lord to bring healing to
> > my spirit, which had been deeply wounded. The healing is not complete as
> > yet, because I have hindered the Lord by my own foolishness. But I'm
> > convicted of that, and am bringing an end to it so that the Lord may have
> > the freedom He desires to answer my prayers for healing. I know some of
> > you have prayed for me, and for that I am deeply grateful.
> >
> > Looking forward to sweet fellowship with you in the Lord.
> >
> > Love and blessings,
> > Helen
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>
>-------------- Original message --------------
>
> > Good morning, E Church Family,
> >
> > I've been away for nearly a month, waiting on the Lord to bring healing to
> > my spirit, which had been deeply wounded. The healing is not complete as
> > yet, because I have hindered the Lord by my own foolishness. But I'm
> > convicted of that, and am bringing an end to it so that the Lord may have
> > the freedom He desires to answer my prayers for healing. I know some of
> > you have prayed for me, and for that I am deeply grateful.
> >
> > Looking forward to sweet fellowship with you in the Lord.
> >
> > Love and blessings,
> > Helen
>
>
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Hi there Vinny!  <Hugs>

Hugs also to all those who have welcomed me back since last I wrote!

Vinny, how are things with you?  Are you feeling a lot better than when
we spoke last year?  I do trust this is so.

Everyone, tell me what's going on with you so that I'm up to date.  I'm
sure to miss someone if I start but, Brad, how's your church situation?
Did you move as you thought you might just before I left?  Pat, what's
that lovely little home like that you now have and how's Vernon
healthwise?  Does he need more prayer to bring him fully through to the
Lord?  Charles, what's news with you?  Peggy, I'm sorry to learn of the
lump and am lifting you up to Him, but He is stooping down low to meet
you and lift you up Himself in His arms and He will carry you through.
I am sure of that!

One thing I forgot to tell you all was that I've had a problem with my
neck for years now and it suddenly got worse about three months ago.  I
woke up and found my thumb and first finger totally numb.  After five or
six weeks I thought there was no hope.  I couldn't read Braille at all
with my reading finger and my left hand is so very slow.  Anyway, I had
three physio appointments and now am back to normal - praise God!

Now I'll stop rambling and let others have a go!  I know one who can
beat me hands down - even if he babbles rather than rambles!  <GRINS>


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Hi Helen,
So good to hear from you again.  It seems like everyone is coming back
at once this week, myself, Carol, and now you.  Wonderful. I know I can
speak for all of us in telling you how much we have always loved and
appreciated you. God bless. Vinny
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> Good morning, E Church Family,
>
> I've been away for nearly a month, waiting on the Lord to bring
> healing to my spirit, which had been deeply wounded.  The healing is
> not complete as yet, because I have hindered the Lord by my own
> foolishness.  But I'm convicted of that, and am bringing an end to it
> so that the Lord may have the freedom He desires to answer my prayers
> for healing.  I know some of you have prayed for me, and for that I am

> deeply grateful.
>
> Looking forward to sweet fellowship with you in the Lord.
>
> Love and blessings,
> Helen
>

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There is nothing wrong with the message.  I believe in personal profacy.  It is in God's word so it is true.  And little is good Jesus said come onto me as a LITTLE child.  I could use some prophecy,  I am at a place where I do not know what to do.  I have been unemployed for two years and a month now.  No money and everything is running out.  I know the Lord will continue to take care of me.  But I need some direction.


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> Phil,
>
> I do believe in Personal prophecy, and I new that was Prophecy when I read
> that message from you, to Peggy.
>
> Remember, the word "little" is often used as a way of showing affection.
> I don't believe there was anything wrong with that message at all.
> The Lord was speaking through you.
>
> I'm praying for you, Phil.
>
> Love and Blessings,
> Pat Ferguson
> At 12:14 AM 8/24/04, you wrote:
> >What you read earlier was, what some call, personal prophecy. I don't care
> >if you don't believe in such things and don't ask me to explain it because I
> >can't. I don't often do what I did but when it happens, there is a reason.
> >I rarely do it, overall, but that is beside the point. In Peggy's case, I
> >cannot explain it nor do I care to try. When I wrote to her to let her know
> >we are with her through this experience she is facing, I wrote the word
> >"sister" and suddenly stopped typing. I could not go on. Saying the word
> >"sister" was spiritually insufficient and not only that, it was spiritually
> >wrong. It was not what I felt in my spirit. What I felt in my spirit was
> >"little sister" but Peggy is not my little sister, I don't think anyhow. I
> >backed up and typed in the word "little" in front of the word "sister" and
> >felt stupid doing so. I sat for a moment and said, "Lord, that is stupid.
> >What are we talking about here. So I began to write the rest of the
> >message. No, it was not automatic writing; that is demonic. I knew every
> >word I typed and why. If it makes you feel uncomfortable, I don't feel
> >sorry for you because it wasn't written for you. What if you are wrong, I
> >can hear someone asking. So? I've been wrong before. I wrote what I felt,
> >not heard, but what I felt in my spirit. That's the best I can do and Jesus
> >has to do the rest but I obeyed what He told me to do. No, I don't know
> >Peggy personally. I've talked to her on the phone once or twice but a long
> >time ago. You know her as well as I do if you are on this list. I know one
> >thing. When I wrote that message, I felt God's love for Peggy flowing
> >through me and that's all I am concerned about.
> >
> >Phil.
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There is nothing wrong with the message.&nbsp; I believe in personal profacy.&nbsp; It is in God's word so it is true.&nbsp; And little is good Jesus said come onto me as a LITTLE child.&nbsp; I could use some prophecy,&nbsp; I am at a place where I do not know what to do.&nbsp; I have been unemployed for two years and a month now.&nbsp; No money and everything is running out.&nbsp; I know the Lord will continue to take care of me.&nbsp; But I need some direction.&nbsp;<BR><BR>
<DIV class=signature id=signature>--<BR>In any kind of circumstance PRAY <BR><BR>Karen Carter 74'</DIV><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR><BR>&gt; Phil, <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I do believe in Personal prophecy, and I new that was Prophecy when I read <BR>&gt; that message from you, to Peggy. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Remember, the word "little" is often used as a way of showing affection. <BR>&gt; <SMILE>I don't believe there was anything wrong with that message at all. <BR>&gt; The Lord was speaking through you. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I'm praying for you, Phil. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Love and Blessings, <BR>&gt; Pat Ferguson <BR>&gt; At 12:14 AM 8/24/04, you wrote: <BR>&gt; &gt;What you read earlier was, what some call, personal prophecy. I don't care <BR>&gt; &gt;if you don't believe in such things and don't ask me to explain it because I <BR>&gt; &gt;can't. I don't often do what I did but when it happens, there is a reason. <BR>&gt; &gt;I rarely do it, overall, but that is beside the point. In Peggy's case, I <BR>&gt; &gt;cannot explain it nor do I care to try. When I wrote to her to let her know <BR>&gt; &gt;we are with her through this experience she is facing, I wrote the word <BR>&gt; &gt;"sister" and suddenly stopped typing. I could not go on. Saying the word <BR>&gt; &gt;"sister" was spiritually insufficient and not only that, it was spiritually <BR>&gt; &gt;wrong. It was not what I felt in my spirit. What I felt in my spirit was <BR>&gt; &gt;"little sister" but Peggy is not my little sister, I don't think anyhow. I <BR>&gt; &gt;backed up and typed in the word "little" in front of the word "sister" and <BR>&gt; &gt;felt stupid doing so. I sat for a moment and said, "Lord, that is stupid. <BR>&gt; &gt;What are we talking about here. So I began to write the rest of the <BR>&gt; &gt;message. No, it was not automatic writing; that is demonic. I knew every <BR>&gt; &gt;word I typed and why. If it makes you feel uncomfortable, I don't feel <BR>&gt; &gt;sorry for you because it wasn't written for you. What if you are wrong, I <BR>&gt; &gt;can hear someone asking. So? I've been wrong before. I wrote what I felt, <BR>&gt; &gt;not heard, but what I felt in my spirit. That's the best I can do and Jesus <BR>&gt; &gt;has to do the rest but I obeyed what He told me to do. No, I don't know <BR>&gt; &gt;Peggy personally. I've talked to her on the phone once or twice but a long <BR>&gt; &gt;time ago. You know her as well as I do if you are on this list. I know one <BR>&gt; &gt;thing. When I wrote that message, I felt God's love for Peggy flowing <BR>&gt; &gt;through me and that's all I am concerned about. <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;Phil. </BLOCKQUOTE></body></html>

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Unfortunately most construction workers love beer.  Unless they are Christians.


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> Pray hard Helen! They're expecting this house to take at least six more
> weeks.They're way behind schedule and they're not working here today at
> all. We're still waiting on the plumber. I guess that my chocolate chip
> cookies didn't work. Hmmmm, maybe brownies loaded with chocolate chips
> would bring him round. Hey Pat, what do construction workers like?
> Kathy
>
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Unfortunately most construction workers love beer.&nbsp; Unless they are Christians.&nbsp; <BR><BR>
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Hi Helen, and incouraging word.  Jesus heals us sometimes when we are being disobedient to draw us back to him.  I have a friend that disobeys quite a bit and God is always blessing her.  I think that is the only way he can open hers eyes sometimes.


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-------------- Original message --------------

> Hi, Vinny,
>
> Your precious words have brought tears to my eyes. To know the love of God
> expressed through you and others here in this fellowship is what I have
> needed. I could think it was a mistake for me to leave for a month,
> thinking I was waiting on the Lord to heal me in spite of my disobedience
> to Him, except that I recall the little devotional I posted earlier which
> reminded me that all of this is under the Feet of Jesus, and no thing has
> happened to any of us except as He has allowed it for His own greater Glory.
>
> Welcome back to you, too, Vinny! I have always been blessed by your writings.
>
> Love,
> Helen
>
> Earlier, Vinny Samarco wrote:
> >Hi Helen,
> >So good to hear from you again. It seems like everyone is coming back at
> >once this week, myself, Carol, and now you. Wonderful.
> >I know I can speak for all of us in telling you how much we have always
> >loved and appreciated you.
> >God bless.
> >Vinny
>
>
>
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Helen"
> >To:
> >Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 4:50 AM
> >Subject: Back again
> >
> >
> > > Good morning, E Church Family,
> > >
> > > I've been away for nearly a month, waiting on the Lord to bring healing to
> > > my spirit, which had been deeply wounded. The healing is not complete as
> > > yet, because I have hindered the Lord by my own foolishness. But I'm
> > > convicted of that, and am bringing an end to it so that the Lord may have
> > > the freedom He desires to answer my prayers for healing. I know some of
> > > you have prayed for me, and for that I am deeply grateful.
> > >
> > > Looking forward to sweet fellowship with you in the Lord.
> > >
> > > Love and blessings,
> > > Helen
> > >
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Hi Helen, and incouraging word.&nbsp; Jesus heals us sometimes when we are being disobedient to draw us back to him.&nbsp; I have a friend that disobeys quite a bit and God is always blessing her.&nbsp; I think that is the only way he can open hers eyes sometimes. <BR><BR>
<DIV class=signature id=signature>--<BR>In any kind of circumstance PRAY <BR><BR>Karen Carter 74'</DIV><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR><BR>&gt; Hi, Vinny, <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Your precious words have brought tears to my eyes. To know the love of God <BR>&gt; expressed through you and others here in this fellowship is what I have <BR>&gt; needed. I could think it was a mistake for me to leave for a month, <BR>&gt; thinking I was waiting on the Lord to heal me in spite of my disobedience <BR>&gt; to Him, except that I recall the little devotional I posted earlier which <BR>&gt; reminded me that all of this is under the Feet of Jesus, and no thing has <BR>&gt; happened to any of us except as He has allowed it for His own greater Glory. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Welcome back to you, too, Vinny! I have always been blessed by your writings. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Love, <BR>&gt; Helen <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Earlier, Vinny Samarco wrote: <BR>&gt; &gt;Hi Helen, <BR>&gt; &gt;So good to hear from you again. It seems like everyone is coming back at <BR>&gt; &gt;once this week, myself, Carol, and now you. Wonderful. <BR>&gt; &gt;I know I can speak for all of us in telling you how much we have always <BR>&gt; &gt;loved and appreciated you. <BR>&gt; &gt;God bless. <BR>&gt; &gt;Vinny <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;----- Original Message ----- <BR>&gt; &gt;From: "Helen" <[log in to unmask]><BR>&gt; &gt;To: <[log in to unmask]><BR>&gt; &gt;Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 4:50 AM <BR>&gt; &gt;Subject: Back again <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Good morning, E Church Family, <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; I've been away for nearly a month, waiting on the Lord to bring healing to <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; my spirit, which had been deeply wounded. The healing is not complete as <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; yet, because I have hindered the Lord by my own foolishness. But I'm <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; convicted of that, and am bringing an end to it so that the Lord may have <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; the freedom He desires to answer my prayers for healing. I know some of <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; you have prayed for me, and for that I am deeply grateful. <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Looking forward to sweet fellowship with you in the Lord. <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Love and blessings, <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Helen <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; </BLOCKQUOTE></body></html>

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That is true.  You could wake up tomorrow and have a completed house.  I know Jesus can do that.  Miracles and wonders.


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> Kathy, six weeks will take it into early October, where there will still be
> time before we get snow. And you know what? Our God doesn't work by
> time. He doesn't live in time as we know it, for He is
> Eternal. Yesterday, today, and tomorrow are the same with Him. I guess
> what I'm saying is that with Him, that house is already completed!! So not
> to worry. It is all in His Carpenter Hands, anyway. Smile
>
> Love,
> Helen
>
> Earlier, Kathy Du Bois wrote:
> >Pray hard Helen! They're expecting this house to take at least six more
> >weeks.They're way behind schedule and they're not working here today at
> >all. We're still waiting on the plumber. I guess that my chocolate chip
> >cookies didn't work. Hmmmm, maybe brownies loaded with chocolate chips
> >would bring him round. Hey Pat, what do construction workers like?
> >Kathy
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That is true.&nbsp; You could wake up tomorrow and have a completed house.&nbsp; I know Jesus can do that.&nbsp; Miracles and wonders.<BR><BR>
<DIV class=signature id=signature>--<BR>In any kind of circumstance PRAY <BR><BR>Karen Carter 74'</DIV><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR><BR>&gt; Kathy, six weeks will take it into early October, where there will still be <BR>&gt; time before we get snow. And you know what? Our God doesn't work by <BR>&gt; time. He doesn't live in time as we know it, for He is <BR>&gt; Eternal. Yesterday, today, and tomorrow are the same with Him. I guess <BR>&gt; what I'm saying is that with Him, that house is already completed!! So not <BR>&gt; to worry. It is all in His Carpenter Hands, anyway. Smile <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Love, <BR>&gt; Helen <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Earlier, Kathy Du Bois wrote: <BR>&gt; &gt;Pray hard Helen! They're expecting this house to take at least six more <BR>&gt; &gt;weeks.They're way behind schedule and they're not working here today at <BR>&gt; &gt;all. We're still waiting on the plumber. I guess that my chocolate chip <BR>&gt; &gt;cookies didn't work. Hmmmm, maybe brownies loaded with chocolate chips <BR>&gt; &gt;would bring him round. Hey Pat, what do construction workers like? <BR>&gt; &gt;Kathy </BLOCKQUOTE></body></html>

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Now we just need to pray for Matt and Paul to come back and I'll feel
like the church is back in full force.  Kathy

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Amen you are a 100% right.


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Karen Carter 74'


-------------- Original message --------------

> Hi, Karen,
>
> I'm not sure I've seen your name before. But it's nice to meet you anyway,
> and I thank you for praying for me. I lay awake most of last night,
> wondering what I could do to change the circumstances that had caused the
> wounding, and the more I tried to figure it out, the more the Lord said,
> No. It is nothing you can do. It is entirely in My Hands, in what I will
> do.......not you, but Me, said the Lord.
> Then He sent me a message through Phil at 3:30 this morning, confirming to
> me the plans God had for me this day. God is so wonderful in the care He
> provides for those of us who know Him and love Him.
>
> In His Perfect Love,
> Helen
>
> Earlier, Karen Carter wrote:
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> >Hi Helen, I will pray for a complete and perfect healing in the name of
> >Jesus. Amen.
> >
> >
> >--
> >In any kind of circumstance PRAY
> >
> >Karen Carter 74'
> >
> >
> >-------------- Original message --------------
> >
> > > Good morning, E Church Family,
> > >
> > > I've been away for nearly a month, waiting on the Lord to bring healing to
> > > my spirit, which had been deeply wounded. The healing is not complete as
> > > yet, because I have hindered the Lord by my own foolishness. But I'm
> > > convicted of that, and am bringing an end to it so that the Lord may have
> > > the freedom He desires to answer my prayers for healing. I know some of
> > > you have prayed for me, and for that I am deeply grateful.
> > >
> > > Looking forward to sweet fellowship with you in the Lord.
> > >
> > > Love and blessings,
> > > Helen
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> >Hi Helen, I will pray for a complete and perfect healing in the name of
> >Jesus. Amen.
> >
> >--
> >In any kind of circumstance PRAY
> >
> >Karen Carter 74'
> >
> >-------------- Original message --------------
> >
> > > Good morning, E Church Family,
> > >
> > > I've been away for nearly a month, waiting on the Lord to bring healing to
> > > my spirit, which had been deeply wounded. The healing is not complete as
> > > yet, because I have hindered the Lord by my own foolishness. But I'm
> > > convicted of that, and am bringing an end to it so that the Lord may have
> > > the freedom He desires to answer my prayers for healing. I know some of
> > > you have prayed for me, and for that I am deeply grateful.
> > >
> > > Looking forward to sweet fellowship with you in the Lord.
> > >
> > > Love and blessings,
> > > Helen
> >
> >
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Amen you are a 100% right.&nbsp; <BR><BR>
<DIV class=signature id=signature>--<BR>In any kind of circumstance PRAY <BR><BR>Karen Carter 74'</DIV><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR><BR>&gt; Hi, Karen, <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I'm not sure I've seen your name before. But it's nice to meet you anyway, <BR>&gt; and I thank you for praying for me. I lay awake most of last night, <BR>&gt; wondering what I could do to change the circumstances that had caused the <BR>&gt; wounding, and the more I tried to figure it out, the more the Lord said, <BR>&gt; No. It is nothing you can do. It is entirely in My Hands, in what I will <BR>&gt; do.......not you, but Me, said the Lord. <BR>&gt; Then He sent me a message through Phil at 3:30 this morning, confirming to <BR>&gt; me the plans God had for me this day. God is so wonderful in the care He <BR>&gt; provides for those of us who know Him and love Him. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; In His Perfect Love, <BR>&gt; Helen <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Earlier, Karen Carter wrote: <BR>&gt; &gt;--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_2789_1093370638_0 <BR>&gt; &gt;Content-Type: text/plain <BR>&gt; &gt;Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;Hi Helen, I will pray for a complete and perfect healing in the name of <BR>&gt; &gt;Jesus. Amen. <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;-- <BR>&gt; &gt;In any kind of circumstance PRAY <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;Karen Carter 74' <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;-------------- Original message -------------- <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Good morning, E Church Family, <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; I've been away for nearly a month, waiting on the Lord to bring healing to <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; my spirit, which had been deeply wounded. The healing is not complete as <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; yet, because I have hindered the Lord by my own foolishness. But I'm <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; convicted of that, and am bringing an end to it so that the Lord may have <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; the freedom He desires to answer my prayers for healing. I know some of <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; you have prayed for me, and for that I am deeply grateful. <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Looking forward to sweet fellowship with you in the Lord. <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Love and blessings, <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Helen <BR>&gt; &gt;--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_2789_1093370638_0 <BR>&gt; &gt;Content-Type: text/html <BR>&gt; &gt;Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;Hi Helen, I will pray for a complete and perfect healing in the name of <BR>&gt; &gt;Jesus. Amen. <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;-- <BR>&gt; &gt;In any kind of circumstance PRAY <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;Karen Carter 74' <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;-------------- Original message -------------- <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Good morning, E Church Family, <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; I've been away for nearly a month, waiting on the Lord to bring healing to <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; my spirit, which had been deeply wounded. The healing is not complete as <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; yet, because I have hindered the Lord by my own foolishness. But I'm <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; convicted of that, and am bringing an end to it so that the Lord may have <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; the freedom He desires to answer my prayers for healing. I know some of <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; you have prayed for me, and for that I am deeply grateful. <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Looking forward to sweet fellowship with you in the Lord. <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Love and blessings, <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Helen <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_2789_1093370638_0-- </BLOCKQUOTE></body></html>

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Well, so far, when we clean up in the evening, after they've gone, we've
only found soft drink bottles and some gaderade bottles.  I did hear one
of the guys who was working on the foundation lament for a beer, but it
was very hot and tiring work and he didn't get his wish anyway.
Kathy

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Helen,
It is so good to have you back on the list.  We have missed you!  I just
wanted to say that you can count on me to be seeking the Lord for your
healing of the spirit.  God can and will do it!

God bless you and stay with us a while.

Ned
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Amen to that, Kathy.  I have prayed, and have written to Paul, but have had
no reply.
It would be so good to have his wonderful sense of humor back with us,
along with his spiritual insights.  I didn't know Matt very well, but do
recall that I enjoyed his posts.

Helen


Earlier, Kathy Du Bois wrote:
>Now we just need to pray for Matt and Paul to come back and I'll feel
>like the church is back in full force.  Kathy
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Karen, God is still your Provider, and He will fulfill His promise to
supply your every need.  I pray you will see the fruits of His promises
very soon.

Love,
Helen

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>There is nothing wrong with the message.  I believe in personal
>profacy.  It is in God's word so it is true.  And little is good Jesus
>said come onto me as a LITTLE child.  I could use some prophecy,  I am at
>a place where I do not know what to do.  I have been unemployed for two
>years and a month now.  No money and everything is running out.  I know
>the Lord will continue to take care of me.  But I need some direction.
>
>
>--
>In any kind of circumstance PRAY
>
>Karen Carter 74'
>
>
>-------------- Original message --------------
>
> > Phil,
> >
> > I do believe in Personal prophecy, and I new that was Prophecy when I read
> > that message from you, to Peggy.
> >
> > Remember, the word "little" is often used as a way of showing affection.
> > I don't believe there was anything wrong with that message at all.
> > The Lord was speaking through you.
> >
> > I'm praying for you, Phil.
> >
> > Love and Blessings,
> > Pat Ferguson
> > At 12:14 AM 8/24/04, you wrote:
> > >What you read earlier was, what some call, personal prophecy. I don't care
> > >if you don't believe in such things and don't ask me to explain it
> because I
> > >can't. I don't often do what I did but when it happens, there is a reason.
> > >I rarely do it, overall, but that is beside the point. In Peggy's case, I
> > >cannot explain it nor do I care to try. When I wrote to her to let her
> know
> > >we are with her through this experience she is facing, I wrote the word
> > >"sister" and suddenly stopped typing. I could not go on. Saying the word
> > >"sister" was spiritually insufficient and not only that, it was
> spiritually
> > >wrong. It was not what I felt in my spirit. What I felt in my spirit was
> > >"little sister" but Peggy is not my little sister, I don't think anyhow. I
> > >backed up and typed in the word "little" in front of the word "sister" and
> > >felt stupid doing so. I sat for a moment and said, "Lord, that is stupid.
> > >What are we talking about here. So I began to write the rest of the
> > >message. No, it was not automatic writing; that is demonic. I knew every
> > >word I typed and why. If it makes you feel uncomfortable, I don't feel
> > >sorry for you because it wasn't written for you. What if you are wrong, I
> > >can hear someone asking. So? I've been wrong before. I wrote what I felt,
> > >not heard, but what I felt in my spirit. That's the best I can do and
> Jesus
> > >has to do the rest but I obeyed what He told me to do. No, I don't know
> > >Peggy personally. I've talked to her on the phone once or twice but a long
> > >time ago. You know her as well as I do if you are on this list. I know one
> > >thing. When I wrote that message, I felt God's love for Peggy flowing
> > >through me and that's all I am concerned about.
> > >
> > >Phil.
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>There is nothing wrong with the message.  I believe in personal
>profacy.  It is in God's word so it is true.  And little is good Jesus
>said come onto me as a LITTLE child.  I could use some prophecy,  I am at
>a place where I do not know what to do.  I have been unemployed for two
>years and a month now.  No money and everything is running out.  I know
>the Lord will continue to take care of me.  But I need some direction.
>
>--
>In any kind of circumstance PRAY
>
>Karen Carter 74'
>
>-------------- Original message --------------
>
> > Phil,
> >
> > I do believe in Personal prophecy, and I new that was Prophecy when I read
> > that message from you, to Peggy.
> >
> > Remember, the word "little" is often used as a way of showing affection.
> > I don't believe there was anything wrong with that message at all.
> > The Lord was speaking through you.
> >
> > I'm praying for you, Phil.
> >
> > Love and Blessings,
> > Pat Ferguson
> > At 12:14 AM 8/24/04, you wrote:
> > >What you read earlier was, what some call, personal prophecy. I don't
> care
> > >if you don't believe in such things and don't ask me to explain it
> because I
> > >can't. I don't often do what I did but when it happens, there is a
> reason.
> > >I rarely do it, overall, but that is beside the point. In Peggy's case, I
> > >cannot explain it nor do I care to try. When I wrote to her to let her
> know
> > >we are with her through this experience she is facing, I wrote the word
> > >"sister" and suddenly stopped typing. I could not go on. Saying the word
> > >"sister" was spiritually insufficient and not only that, it was
> spiritually
> > >wrong. It was not what I felt in my spirit. What I felt in my spirit was
> > >"little sister" but Peggy is not my little sister, I don't think
> anyhow. I
> > >backed up and typed in the word "little" in front of the word "sister"
> and
> > >felt stupid doing so. I sat for a moment and said, "Lord, that is stupid.
> > >What are we talking about here. So I began to write the rest of the
> > >message. No, it was not automatic writing; that is demonic. I knew every
> > >word I typed and why. If it makes you feel uncomfortable, I don't feel
> > >sorry for you because it wasn't written for you. What if you are wrong, I
> > >can hear someone asking. So? I've been wrong before. I wrote what I felt,
> > >not heard, but what I felt in my spirit. That's the best I can do and
> Jesus
> > >has to do the rest but I obeyed what He told me to do. No, I don't know
> > >Peggy personally. I've talked to her on the phone once or twice but a
> long
> > >time ago. You know her as well as I do if you are on this list. I know
> one
> > >thing. When I wrote that message, I felt God's love for Peggy flowing
> > >through me and that's all I am concerned about.
> > >
> > >Phil.
>
>
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Yes, yes!  Let's pray . . . but not pressure, push or even necessarily
suggest or ask!


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Amen to that, Kathy.  I have prayed, and have written to Paul, but have
had no reply. It would be so good to have his wonderful sense of humor
back with us, along with his spiritual insights.  I didn't know Matt
very well, but do recall that I enjoyed his posts.

Helen


Earlier, Kathy Du Bois wrote:
>Now we just need to pray for Matt and Paul to come back and I'll feel
>like the church is back in full force.  Kathy

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Helen,

We can't heal ourselves can we?  Only God can do that!


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Hi, Karen,

I'm not sure I've seen your name before.  But it's nice to meet you
anyway, and I thank you for praying for me.  I lay awake most of last
night, wondering what I could do to change the circumstances that had
caused the wounding, and the more I tried to figure it out, the more the
Lord said, No.  It is nothing you can do.  It is entirely in My Hands,
in what I will do.......not you, but Me, said the Lord. Then He sent me
a message through Phil at 3:30 this morning, confirming to me the plans
God had for me this day.  God is so wonderful in the care He provides
for those of us who know Him and love Him.

In His Perfect Love,
Helen

Earlier, Karen Carter wrote:
>--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_2789_1093370638_0
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>
>Hi Helen,  I will pray for a complete and perfect healing in the name
>of Jesus.  Amen.
>
>
>--
>In any kind of circumstance PRAY
>
>Karen Carter 74'
>
>
>-------------- Original message --------------
>
> > Good morning, E Church Family,
> >
> > I've been away for nearly a month, waiting on the Lord to bring
> > healing to my spirit, which had been deeply wounded. The healing is
> > not complete as yet, because I have hindered the Lord by my own
> > foolishness. But I'm convicted of that, and am bringing an end to it

> > so that the Lord may have the freedom He desires to answer my
> > prayers for healing. I know some of you have prayed for me, and for
> > that I am deeply grateful.
> >
> > Looking forward to sweet fellowship with you in the Lord.
> >
> > Love and blessings,
> > Helen
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>Hi Helen,  I will pray for a complete and perfect healing in the name
>of Jesus.  Amen.
>
>--
>In any kind of circumstance PRAY
>
>Karen Carter 74'
>
>-------------- Original message --------------
>
> > Good morning, E Church Family,
> >
> > I've been away for nearly a month, waiting on the Lord to bring
> > healing to my spirit, which had been deeply wounded. The healing is
> > not complete as yet, because I have hindered the Lord by my own
> > foolishness. But I'm convicted of that, and am bringing an end to it

> > so that the Lord may have the freedom He desires to answer my
> > prayers for healing. I know some of you have prayed for me, and for
> > that I am deeply grateful.
> >
> > Looking forward to sweet fellowship with you in the Lord.
> >
> > Love and blessings,
> > Helen
>
>
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Ned - I couldn't think of your name though could see you in my spirit
(if you get the gist) when I wrote before:

How are you doing?  Is your son off your hands or are you still caring
for him?


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Helen,
It is so good to have you back on the list.  We have missed you!  I just
wanted to say that you can count on me to be seeking the Lord for your
healing of the spirit.  God can and will do it!

God bless you and stay with us a while.

Ned

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Hi, Karen,

Thank you for the encouraging word!  And I agree with you one hundred percent.
I'm sure this is what the Lord is doing in my life this day.

Helen


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>Hi Helen, and incouraging word.  Jesus heals us sometimes when we are
>being disobedient to draw us back to him.  I have a friend that disobeys
>quite a bit and God is always blessing her.  I think that is the only way
>he can open hers eyes sometimes.
>
>
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>
>Karen Carter 74'
>
>
>-------------- Original message --------------
>
> > Hi, Vinny,
> >
> > Your precious words have brought tears to my eyes. To know the love of God
> > expressed through you and others here in this fellowship is what I have
> > needed. I could think it was a mistake for me to leave for a month,
> > thinking I was waiting on the Lord to heal me in spite of my disobedience
> > to Him, except that I recall the little devotional I posted earlier which
> > reminded me that all of this is under the Feet of Jesus, and no thing has
> > happened to any of us except as He has allowed it for His own greater
> Glory.
> >
> > Welcome back to you, too, Vinny! I have always been blessed by your
> writings.
> >
> > Love,
> > Helen
> >
> > Earlier, Vinny Samarco wrote:
> > >Hi Helen,
> > >So good to hear from you again. It seems like everyone is coming back at
> > >once this week, myself, Carol, and now you. Wonderful.
> > >I know I can speak for all of us in telling you how much we have always
> > >loved and appreciated you.
> > >God bless.
> > >Vinny
> >
> >
> >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Helen"
> > >To:
> > >Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 4:50 AM
> > >Subject: Back again
> > >
> > >
> > > > Good morning, E Church Family,
> > > >
> > > > I've been away for nearly a month, waiting on the Lord to bring
> healing to
> > > > my spirit, which had been deeply wounded. The healing is not
> complete as
> > > > yet, because I have hindered the Lord by my own foolishness. But I'm
> > > > convicted of that, and am bringing an end to it so that the Lord
> may have
> > > > the freedom He desires to answer my prayers for healing. I know some of
> > > > you have prayed for me, and for that I am deeply grateful.
> > > >
> > > > Looking forward to sweet fellowship with you in the Lord.
> > > >
> > > > Love and blessings,
> > > > Helen
> > > >
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>Hi Helen, and incouraging word.  Jesus heals us sometimes when we are
>being disobedient to draw us back to him.  I have a friend that disobeys
>quite a bit and God is always blessing her.  I think that is the only way
>he can open hers eyes sometimes.
>
>--
>In any kind of circumstance PRAY
>
>Karen Carter 74'
>
>-------------- Original message --------------
>
> > Hi, Vinny,
> >
> > Your precious words have brought tears to my eyes. To know the love of God
> > expressed through you and others here in this fellowship is what I have
> > needed. I could think it was a mistake for me to leave for a month,
> > thinking I was waiting on the Lord to heal me in spite of my disobedience
> > to Him, except that I recall the little devotional I posted earlier which
> > reminded me that all of this is under the Feet of Jesus, and no thing has
> > happened to any of us except as He has allowed it for His own greater
> Glory.
> >
> > Welcome back to you, too, Vinny! I have always been blessed by your
> writings.
> >
> > Love,
> > Helen
> >
> > Earlier, Vinny Samarco wrote:
> > >Hi Helen,
> > >So good to hear from you again. It seems like everyone is coming back at
> > >once this week, myself, Carol, and now you. Wonderful.
> > >I know I can speak for all of us in telling you how much we have always
> > >loved and appreciated you.
> > >God bless.
> > >Vinny
> >
> >
> >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Helen"
> > >To:
> > >Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 4:50 AM
> > >Subject: Back again
> > >
> > >
> > > > Good morning, E Church Family,
> > > >
> > > > I've been away for nearly a month, waiting on the Lord to bring
> healing to
> > > > my spirit, which had been deeply wounded. The healing is not
> complete as
> > > > yet, because I have hindered the Lord by my own foolishness. But I'm
> > > > convicted of that, and am bringing an end to it so that the Lord
> may have
> > > > the freedom He desires to answer my prayers for healing. I know
> some of
> > > > you have prayed for me, and for that I am deeply grateful.
> > > >
> > > > Looking forward to sweet fellowship with you in the Lord.
> > > >
> > > > Love and blessings,
> > > > Helen
> > > >
>
>
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Vinney,

It is good to see you back again and posting.  I miss people when they
leave, like Paul for example, even if they think, out of sight; out of mind.
I don't forget people.

Phil.
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Thanks, Ned.

   I've missed being here, too.  And thank you for praying for me.  I'm
trusting in His Word which says:  Jeremiah 33:3  Call unto me, and I will
answer thee, and shew thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.
He will not fail of any that He has promised.

In Him,
Helen




Earlier, Ned Benton wrote:
>Helen,
>It is so good to have you back on the list.  We have missed you!  I just
>wanted to say that you can count on me to be seeking the Lord for your
>healing of the spirit.  God can and will do it!
>
>God bless you and stay with us a while.
>
>Ned
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Yah if they drink beer they have to waite and drink it after work.  If they get caught drinking on the job they can get in serious trouble by the unions and such


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> Well, so far, when we clean up in the evening, after they've gone, we've
> only found soft drink bottles and some gaderade bottles. I did hear one
> of the guys who was working on the foundation lament for a beer, but it
> was very hot and tiring work and he didn't get his wish anyway.
> Kathy
>
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Karen,

I didn't see your original post but have read it now under Helen's.

My heart goes out to you because God has called me to pray and uphold
the afflicted and down-trodden.  You can feel as though everyone's
treading on you when you apply for a job and don't succeed.  Mike, my
husband, has been unemployed three times since we married just over
eleven years ago.  He was told on many occasions that he got
second/third, just pipped to the post, but many just wouldn't employ
him.  It was a test for both of us but God came out clearly, especially
when we moved here and Mike then was given a job.  OK, it's not
wonderful and it's badly paid, which keeps us trusting in Him and
thankful for what we have!

I'll be praying for you in the coming days.  Write me personally (if
you'd like) and tell me what jobs you've gone for and what your training
has been etc.

Let's ask God for a miracle for Karen:

"Dear Lord Jesus!  You own the cattle on a thousand hills.  Karen just
wants a very, very tiny part.  She needs work and needs money.  Lord,
please, if you don't supply work will you supply all her need from your
riches in Glory!  May each time her need is supplied be very special to
her!

"Thank you Lord, I know you love her and care for her so much more than
the sparrows, so I'm looking for you to come through for her.

I bless Your name that this is Your chosen part, to be involved in our
lives and meeting our needs.  My sister is not excluded.  Dear Lord, let
her know your goodness and faithfulness that it may be a testimony to
all she knows, and maybe those she doesn't!

"I ask this in Your precious name:

"AMEN!"


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Karen, God is still your Provider, and He will fulfill His promise to
supply your every need.  I pray you will see the fruits of His promises
very soon.

Love,
Helen

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>There is nothing wrong with the message.  I believe in personal
>profacy.  It is in God's word so it is true.  And little is good Jesus
>said come onto me as a LITTLE child.  I could use some prophecy,  I am
>at a place where I do not know what to do.  I have been unemployed for
>two years and a month now.  No money and everything is running out.  I
>know the Lord will continue to take care of me.  But I need some
>direction.
>
>
>--
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>
>Karen Carter 74'
>
>
>-------------- Original message --------------
>
> > Phil,
> >
> > I do believe in Personal prophecy, and I new that was Prophecy when
> > I read that message from you, to Peggy.
> >
> > Remember, the word "little" is often used as a way of showing
> > affection. I don't believe there was anything wrong with that
> > message at all. The Lord was speaking through you.
> >
> > I'm praying for you, Phil.
> >
> > Love and Blessings,
> > Pat Ferguson
> > At 12:14 AM 8/24/04, you wrote:
> > >What you read earlier was, what some call, personal prophecy. I
> > >don't care if you don't believe in such things and don't ask me to
> > >explain it
> because I
> > >can't. I don't often do what I did but when it happens, there is a
> > >reason. I rarely do it, overall, but that is beside the point. In
> > >Peggy's case, I cannot explain it nor do I care to try. When I
> > >wrote to her to let her
> know
> > >we are with her through this experience she is facing, I wrote the
> > >word "sister" and suddenly stopped typing. I could not go on.
> > >Saying the word "sister" was spiritually insufficient and not only
> > >that, it was
> spiritually
> > >wrong. It was not what I felt in my spirit. What I felt in my
> > >spirit was "little sister" but Peggy is not my little sister, I
> > >don't think anyhow. I backed up and typed in the word "little" in
> > >front of the word "sister" and felt stupid doing so. I sat for a
> > >moment and said, "Lord, that is stupid. What are we talking about
> > >here. So I began to write the rest of the message. No, it was not
> > >automatic writing; that is demonic. I knew every word I typed and
> > >why. If it makes you feel uncomfortable, I don't feel sorry for you

> > >because it wasn't written for you. What if you are wrong, I can
> > >hear someone asking. So? I've been wrong before. I wrote what I
> > >felt, not heard, but what I felt in my spirit. That's the best I
can do and
> Jesus
> > >has to do the rest but I obeyed what He told me to do. No, I don't
> > >know Peggy personally. I've talked to her on the phone once or
> > >twice but a long time ago. You know her as well as I do if you are
> > >on this list. I know one thing. When I wrote that message, I felt
> > >God's love for Peggy flowing through me and that's all I am
> > >concerned about.
> > >
> > >Phil.
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>There is nothing wrong with the message.  I believe in personal
>profacy.  It is in God's word so it is true.  And little is good Jesus
>said come onto me as a LITTLE child.  I could use some prophecy,  I am
>at a place where I do not know what to do.  I have been unemployed for
>two years and a month now.  No money and everything is running out.  I
>know the Lord will continue to take care of me.  But I need some
>direction.
>
>--
>In any kind of circumstance PRAY
>
>Karen Carter 74'
>
>-------------- Original message --------------
>
> > Phil,
> >
> > I do believe in Personal prophecy, and I new that was Prophecy when
> > I read that message from you, to Peggy.
> >
> > Remember, the word "little" is often used as a way of showing
> > affection. I don't believe there was anything wrong with that
> > message at all. The Lord was speaking through you.
> >
> > I'm praying for you, Phil.
> >
> > Love and Blessings,
> > Pat Ferguson
> > At 12:14 AM 8/24/04, you wrote:
> > >What you read earlier was, what some call, personal prophecy. I
> > >don't
> care
> > >if you don't believe in such things and don't ask me to explain it
> because I
> > >can't. I don't often do what I did but when it happens, there is a
> reason.
> > >I rarely do it, overall, but that is beside the point. In Peggy's
> > >case, I cannot explain it nor do I care to try. When I wrote to her

> > >to let her
> know
> > >we are with her through this experience she is facing, I wrote the
> > >word "sister" and suddenly stopped typing. I could not go on.
> > >Saying the word "sister" was spiritually insufficient and not only
> > >that, it was
> spiritually
> > >wrong. It was not what I felt in my spirit. What I felt in my
> > >spirit was "little sister" but Peggy is not my little sister, I
> > >don't think
> anyhow. I
> > >backed up and typed in the word "little" in front of the word
> > >"sister"
> and
> > >felt stupid doing so. I sat for a moment and said, "Lord, that is
> > >stupid. What are we talking about here. So I began to write the
> > >rest of the message. No, it was not automatic writing; that is
> > >demonic. I knew every word I typed and why. If it makes you feel
> > >uncomfortable, I don't feel sorry for you because it wasn't written

> > >for you. What if you are wrong, I can hear someone asking. So? I've

> > >been wrong before. I wrote what I felt, not heard, but what I felt
> > >in my spirit. That's the best I can do and
> Jesus
> > >has to do the rest but I obeyed what He told me to do. No, I don't
> > >know Peggy personally. I've talked to her on the phone once or
> > >twice but a
> long
> > >time ago. You know her as well as I do if you are on this list. I
> > >know
> one
> > >thing. When I wrote that message, I felt God's love for Peggy
> > >flowing through me and that's all I am concerned about.
> > >
> > >Phil.
>
>
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Hi, all.  Just thought I'd give you an update on my breast lump.  My
gynecologist doesn't think it's anything to worry about, and says it feels
pretty benign;  but just to make sure, she's referring me to a surgeon at
the breast clinic, who will either remove or biopsy it or drain it if it's
a cyst.  She thinks the breast clinic will call me within the next couple
days with an appointment, because they usually like to get women in quickly
because they know they worry.  So while I'm not totally out of the woods
yet, it appears to my doctor that it's either a cyst or a fibroadenoma or
some other benign lump.  Will keep you all posted.  I've got to get this
taken care of soon, 'cause THE BEST OF BROADWAY opens on September 10 and I
have to be ready to sing my lil' heart out for three weeks.  <grin>

Peggy



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Dear Peggy,

Start singing now and you'll find your Spirit is lifted Godward.

It's great news from your doc and I look forward to that confirmation!

Love in Him:


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Hi, all.  Just thought I'd give you an update on my breast lump.  My
gynecologist doesn't think it's anything to worry about, and says it
feels pretty benign;  but just to make sure, she's referring me to a
surgeon at the breast clinic, who will either remove or biopsy it or
drain it if it's a cyst.  She thinks the breast clinic will call me
within the next couple days with an appointment, because they usually
like to get women in quickly because they know they worry.  So while I'm
not totally out of the woods yet, it appears to my doctor that it's
either a cyst or a fibroadenoma or some other benign lump.  Will keep
you all posted.  I've got to get this taken care of soon, 'cause THE
BEST OF BROADWAY opens on September 10 and I have to be ready to sing my
lil' heart out for three weeks.  <grin>

Peggy



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And the love was received, Phil.  Thanks, Father.  (And no, Phil isn't my
father any more than I'm his little sister.  <grin>)

Exercising spiritual gifts is always something that puts us in a vulnerable
position, as there's always the possibility we could be wrong.  I remember
a wonderful preacher named Doug Weed who gave a sermon on just that
topic.  He said a lot of times we say, "But what if I'm wrong?", and what
we really mean is, "How can I know, without having to exercise any faith,
that I'm doing what's right."  And his answer was you can't.  You always
have to have faith, and YOU COULD BE WRONG.  <grin>

Peggy

At 11:14 PM 8/23/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>What you read earlier was, what some call, personal prophecy.  I don't care
>if you don't believe in such things and don't ask me to explain it because I
>can't.  I don't often do what I did but when it happens, there is a reason.
>I rarely do it, overall, but that is beside the point.  In Peggy's case, I
>cannot explain it nor do I care to try.  When I wrote to her to let her know
>we are with her through this experience she is facing, I wrote the word
>"sister" and suddenly stopped typing.  I could not go on.  Saying the word
>"sister" was spiritually insufficient and not only that, it was spiritually
>wrong.  It was not what I felt in my spirit.  What I felt in my spirit was
>"little sister" but Peggy is not my little sister, I don't think anyhow.  I
>backed up and typed in the word "little" in front of the word "sister" and
>felt stupid doing so.  I sat for a moment and said, "Lord, that is stupid.
>What are we talking about here.  So I began to write the rest of the
>message.  No, it was not automatic writing; that is demonic.  I knew every
>word I typed and why.  If it makes you feel uncomfortable, I don't feel
>sorry for you because it wasn't written for you.  What if you are wrong, I
>can hear someone asking.  So?  I've been wrong before.  I wrote what I felt,
>not heard, but what I felt in my spirit.  That's the best I can do and Jesus
>has to do the rest but I obeyed what He told me to do.  No, I don't know
>Peggy personally.  I've talked to her on the phone once or twice but a long
>time ago.  You know her as well as I do if you are on this list.  I know one
>thing.  When I wrote that message, I felt God's love for Peggy flowing
>through me and that's all I am concerned about.
>
>Phil.

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Maybe we should all start barraging Paul with emails letting him know how
much he is missed!  I really miss his banter, especially with Carri!
Man, those two sent us over the 150 message limit once, remember?
Kathy

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Date:         Tue, 24 Aug 2004 13:52:13 -0700
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From:         Peggy Kern <[log in to unmask]>
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Okay, the party's at Kathy's new house!  <smile>

Peggy

At 06:23 AM 8/24/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>I think Carol's right.  Party time is in order.  Smile.
>
>Will continue with you in prayer.  God is faithful Helen.  He will do for
>you what you cannot do for yourself.
>
>Vicki
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Helen" <[log in to unmask]>
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>Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 5:50 AM
>Subject: Back again
>
>
> > Good morning, E Church Family,
> >
> > I've been away for nearly a month, waiting on the Lord to bring healing to
> > my spirit, which had been deeply wounded.  The healing is not complete as
> > yet, because I have hindered the Lord by my own foolishness.  But I'm
> > convicted of that, and am bringing an end to it so that the Lord may have
> > the freedom He desires to answer my prayers for healing.  I know some of
> > you have prayed for me, and for that I am deeply grateful.
> >
> > Looking forward to sweet fellowship with you in the Lord.
> >
> > Love and blessings,
> > Helen
> >

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Date:         Tue, 24 Aug 2004 22:19:05 +0100
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Absolutely, Peggy!  I can agree totally with you!

Here's a recent testimony for you.  (Sorry to those who know.  Just
press DEL!)

I reached the height of my last ear infection and slumped into bed in
considerable pain.  My face was swollen badly and I couldn't eat . . ..
I knew that tomorrow morning, if nothing had improved, I would have to
stay in the hospital.  I wasn't too keen on this, I admit, because of
the extra stress level this would invariably involve.  I just wanted to
stay home!

I was just too tired to pack that bag.  I knew the signs now and knew
what would be said if . . ..

I asked the Lord:  "How can I pack that bag?  I'm just too tired!"  He
said, "Don't pack it;  just go to bed!"

Did I argue?  No, I was too sick and too tired and wanted to trust Him!

I had another bad night.  In fact it was the worst with this infection .
. ..

I woke on Saturday morning, feeling just a tiny bit better and my face
was down just a little, but it wasn't normal and my ears still hurt
badly!  I knew I could still end up in hospital . . ..

Again I asked the question:  "Should I pack the bag, Lord?"

He said, "No.  You're not staying in hospital.  Just go and tell the
others."

OK!  This is where I could have been wrong, a fool, whatever, but I told
Mike and my friend Margie, who was taking me to the hospital for more
emergency treatment.  "I'm not packing the bag as I won't be staying
in."  I even told the doctor and he believed me!  <SMILES>

Well, He was faithful to me and I did hear Him, but I too can think of
other times where I've been wrong!  We do have to exercise ourselves
though in order to learn what is right and, anyway, Paul was a fool for
Christ so why shouldn't we be!

Blessings to all.  It's time for my bedtime drink!


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Carol
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-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 24 August 2004 21:50
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Personal Prophecies


And the love was received, Phil.  Thanks, Father.  (And no, Phil isn't
my father any more than I'm his little sister.  <grin>)

Exercising spiritual gifts is always something that puts us in a
vulnerable position, as there's always the possibility we could be
wrong.  I remember a wonderful preacher named Doug Weed who gave a
sermon on just that topic.  He said a lot of times we say, "But what if
I'm wrong?", and what we really mean is, "How can I know, without having
to exercise any faith, that I'm doing what's right."  And his answer was
you can't.  You always have to have faith, and YOU COULD BE WRONG.
<grin>

Peggy

At 11:14 PM 8/23/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>What you read earlier was, what some call, personal prophecy.  I don't
>care if you don't believe in such things and don't ask me to explain it

>because I can't.  I don't often do what I did but when it happens,
>there is a reason. I rarely do it, overall, but that is beside the
>point.  In Peggy's case, I cannot explain it nor do I care to try.
>When I wrote to her to let her know we are with her through this
>experience she is facing, I wrote the word "sister" and suddenly
>stopped typing.  I could not go on.  Saying the word "sister" was
>spiritually insufficient and not only that, it was spiritually wrong.
>It was not what I felt in my spirit.  What I felt in my spirit was
>"little sister" but Peggy is not my little sister, I don't think
>anyhow.  I backed up and typed in the word "little" in front of the
>word "sister" and felt stupid doing so.  I sat for a moment and said,
>"Lord, that is stupid. What are we talking about here.  So I began to
>write the rest of the message.  No, it was not automatic writing; that
>is demonic.  I knew every word I typed and why.  If it makes you feel
>uncomfortable, I don't feel sorry for you because it wasn't written for

>you.  What if you are wrong, I can hear someone asking.  So?  I've been

>wrong before.  I wrote what I felt, not heard, but what I felt in my
>spirit.  That's the best I can do and Jesus has to do the rest but I
>obeyed what He told me to do.  No, I don't know Peggy personally.  I've

>talked to her on the phone once or twice but a long time ago.  You know

>her as well as I do if you are on this list.  I know one thing.  When I

>wrote that message, I felt God's love for Peggy flowing through me and
>that's all I am concerned about.
>
>Phil.

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Date:         Tue, 24 Aug 2004 18:10:28 -0400
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Peggy,

Praise the Lord for this encouraging news!  May He continue to be your
portion through
the next tests, and beyond.

Love,
Helen

Earlier, Peggy Kern wrote:
>Hi, all.  Just thought I'd give you an update on my breast lump.  My
>gynecologist doesn't think it's anything to worry about, and says it feels
>pretty benign;  but just to make sure, she's referring me to a surgeon at
>the breast clinic, who will either remove or biopsy it or drain it if it's
>a cyst.  She thinks the breast clinic will call me within the next couple
>days with an appointment, because they usually like to get women in quickly
>because they know they worry.  So while I'm not totally out of the woods
>yet, it appears to my doctor that it's either a cyst or a fibroadenoma or
>some other benign lump.  Will keep you all posted.  I've got to get this
>taken care of soon, 'cause THE BEST OF BROADWAY opens on September 10 and I
>have to be ready to sing my lil' heart out for three weeks.  <grin>
>
>Peggy
>
>
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Date:         Tue, 24 Aug 2004 18:12:27 -0600
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Karen,

I will pray for a job for you soon.  I know that, whether or not God =
supplies a job, He has promised to supply all your needs "according to =
his riches in glory by Christ Jesus."  Phil. 4;19.

Julie

  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  There is nothing wrong with the message.  I believe in personal =
profacy.  It is in God's word so it is true.  And little is good Jesus =
said come onto me as a LITTLE child.  I could use some prophecy,  I am =
at a place where I do not know what to do.  I have been unemployed for =
two years and a month now.  No money and everything is running out.  I =
know the Lord will continue to take care of me.  But I need some =
direction.


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  -------------- Original message --------------

  > Phil,
  >
  > I do believe in Personal prophecy, and I new that was Prophecy when =
I read
  > that message from you, to Peggy.
  >
  > Remember, the word "little" is often used as a way of showing =
affection.
  > I don't believe there was anything wrong with that message at all.
  > The Lord was speaking through you.
  >
  > I'm praying for you, Phil.
  >
  > Love and Blessings,
  > Pat Ferguson
  > At 12:14 AM 8/24/04, you wrote:
  > >What you read earlier was, what some call, personal prophecy. I =
don't care
  > >if you don't believe in such things and don't ask me to explain it =
because I
  > >can't. I don't often do what I did but when it happens, there is a =
reason.
  > >I rarely do it, overall, but that is beside the point. In Peggy's =
case, I
  > >cannot explain it nor do I care to try. When I wrote to her to let =
her know
  > >we are with her through this experience she is facing, I wrote the =
word
  > >"sister" and suddenly stopped typing. I could not go on. Saying the =
word
  > >"sister" was spiritually insufficient and not only that, it was =
spiritually
  > >wrong. It was not what I felt in my spirit. What I felt in my =
spirit was
  > >"little sister" but Peggy is not my little sister, I don't think =
anyhow. I
  > >backed up and typed in the word "little" in front of the word =
"sister" and
  > >felt stupid doing so. I sat for a moment and said, "Lord, that is =
stupid.
  > >What are we talking about here. So I began to write the rest of the
  > >message. No, it was not automatic writing; that is demonic. I knew =
every
  > >word I typed and why. If it makes you feel uncomfortable, I don't =
feel
  > >sorry for you because it wasn't written for you. What if you are =
wrong, I
  > >can hear someone asking. So? I've been wrong before. I wrote what I =
felt,
  > >not heard, but what I felt in my spirit. That's the best I can do =
and Jesus
  > >has to do the rest but I obeyed what He told me to do. No, I don't =
know
  > >Peggy personally. I've talked to her on the phone once or twice but =
a long
  > >time ago. You know her as well as I do if you are on this list. I =
know one
  > >thing. When I wrote that message, I felt God's love for Peggy =
flowing
  > >through me and that's all I am concerned about.
  > >
  > >Phil.
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  There is nothing wrong with the message.&nbsp; I believe in personal =
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prophecy,&nbsp; I am at a place where I do not know what to do.&nbsp; I =
have been unemployed for two years and a month now.&nbsp; No money and =
everything is running out.&nbsp; I know the Lord will continue to take =
care of me.&nbsp; But I need some direction.&nbsp;<BR><BR>
  <DIV class=3Dsignature id=3Dsignature>--<BR>In any kind of =
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<BR>&gt; Love and Blessings, <BR>&gt; Pat Ferguson <BR>&gt; At 12:14 AM =
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in such things and don't ask me to explain it because I <BR>&gt; =
&gt;can't. I don't often do what I did but when it happens, there is a =
reason. <BR>&gt; &gt;I rarely do it, overall, but that is beside the =
point. In Peggy's case, I <BR>&gt; &gt;cannot explain it nor do I care =
to try. When I wrote to her to let her know <BR>&gt; &gt;we are with her =
through this experience she is facing, I wrote the word <BR>&gt; =
&gt;"sister" and suddenly stopped typing. I could not go on. Saying the =
word <BR>&gt; &gt;"sister" was spiritually insufficient and not only =
that, it was spiritually <BR>&gt; &gt;wrong. It was not what I felt in =
my spirit. What I felt in my spirit was <BR>&gt; &gt;"little sister" but =
Peggy is not my little sister, I don't think anyhow. I <BR>&gt; =
&gt;backed up and typed in the word "little" in front of the word =
"sister" and <BR>&gt; &gt;felt stupid doing so. I sat for a moment and =
said, "Lord, that is stupid. <BR>&gt; &gt;What are we talking about =
here. So I began to write the rest of the <BR>&gt; &gt;message. No, it =
was not automatic writing; that is demonic. I knew every <BR>&gt; =
&gt;word I typed and why. If it makes you feel uncomfortable, I don't =
feel <BR>&gt; &gt;sorry for you because it wasn't written for you. What =
if you are wrong, I <BR>&gt; &gt;can hear someone asking. So? I've been =
wrong before. I wrote what I felt, <BR>&gt; &gt;not heard, but what I =
felt in my spirit. That's the best I can do and Jesus <BR>&gt; &gt;has =
to do the rest but I obeyed what He told me to do. No, I don't know =
<BR>&gt; &gt;Peggy personally. I've talked to her on the phone once or =
twice but a long <BR>&gt; &gt;time ago. You know her as well as I do if =
you are on this list. I know one <BR>&gt; &gt;thing. When I wrote that =
message, I felt God's love for Peggy flowing <BR>&gt; &gt;through me and =
that's all I am concerned about. <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;Phil. =
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Okay, here's another update.  The surgery center at Kaiser called me a
while ago, and scheduled an appointment for September 7.  They wanted to
make sure it was after my mamogram on the 3rd.  Since they're not rushing
to get me in, I'm taking this as yet another sign that there's nothing to
worry about.

Will continue to keep you posted.

Peggy



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  From: Vicki and The Rors<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Oh, I am =
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be!  I also pray your headache will get out of ghere. =20

  Tracey starts school todan,a and she does have Monday class, as well =
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  Hi,

  Just time enough to note that this is my first day of school and I'm =
without
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headache,
  and before school, I have to get through a day of work.  My class is =
late
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  Trusting in the Lord's strength and help today.

  Blessing to each of you.
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Great news.  I am sure it is nothing to worry about.  Praise the Lord.


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> Hi, all. Just thought I'd give you an update on my breast lump. My
> gynecologist doesn't think it's anything to worry about, and says it feels
> pretty benign; but just to make sure, she's referring me to a surgeon at
> the breast clinic, who will either remove or biopsy it or drain it if it's
> a cyst. She thinks the breast clinic will call me within the next couple
> days with an appointment, because they usually like to get women in quickly
> because they know they worry. So while I'm not totally out of the woods
> yet, it appears to my doctor that it's either a cyst or a fibroadenoma or
> some other benign lump. Will keep you all posted. I've got to get this
> taken care of soon, 'cause THE BEST OF BROADWAY opens on September 10 and I
> have to be ready to sing my lil' heart out for three weeks.
>
> Peggy
>
>
>
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Great news.&nbsp; I am sure it is nothing to worry about.&nbsp; Praise the Lord. <BR><BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR><BR>&gt; Hi, all. Just thought I'd give you an update on my breast lump. My <BR>&gt; gynecologist doesn't think it's anything to worry about, and says it feels <BR>&gt; pretty benign; but just to make sure, she's referring me to a surgeon at <BR>&gt; the breast clinic, who will either remove or biopsy it or drain it if it's <BR>&gt; a cyst. She thinks the breast clinic will call me within the next couple <BR>&gt; days with an appointment, because they usually like to get women in quickly <BR>&gt; because they know they worry. So while I'm not totally out of the woods <BR>&gt; yet, it appears to my doctor that it's either a cyst or a fibroadenoma or <BR>&gt; some other benign lump. Will keep you all posted. I've got to get this <BR>&gt; taken care of soon, 'cause THE BEST OF BROADWAY opens on September 10 and I <BR>&gt; have to be ready to sing my lil' heart out for three weeks. <GRIN><BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Peggy <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; mailto:[log in to unmask] <BR>&gt; http://www.home.earthlink.net/~kernsac <BR>&gt; MSN Messenger [log in to unmask] </BLOCKQUOTE></body></html>

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Hey Guys,
Matt has a job interview Friday at a restaurant called Arnies.   He'd
really like to get this job because it's less than a mile from campus and
the people there are really great.  He put on his application that he was
willing to do anything but cook.  Well, he's willing to learn, but that's
about as far as it goes.    He's still looking in the mean time, but this
is the first bite.  I'd be glad to have this job search over.  He moves
into his dorm this weekend so the time is really running out for him to
land something before classes start.
Kathy

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Come on over!  I've got plenty of room, but I don't have a stove yet so
don't count on me cooking anything.
Kathy

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Amen!
Karen, I agree with Carol in her prayer.  Now, receive the blessings He has
for you.

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Peggy,
Praise the Lord for the hope He has given.  We will just believe that the
doctor is correct.

thanks for the update and I am still praying.

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That is right Peggy.  I use to tell people what they would be doing in the future (Prophecy) before I lived for the Lord.  but I never ask for money because I knew it was a gift from God and I don't believe in making money off it and also I use to be hesitant in doing it because of being wrong.  And a Pastor I knew said.  Who cares if your wrong. as long as you are doing what you think God is telling you he will use it for his glory and it will be a blessing to the reciever rather it happens or not.  So if God gives me a word for someone I tell them and pray about it too.


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> And the love was received, Phil. Thanks, Father. (And no, Phil isn't my
> father any more than I'm his little sister. )
>
> Exercising spiritual gifts is always something that puts us in a vulnerable
> position, as there's always the possibility we could be wrong. I remember
> a wonderful preacher named Doug Weed who gave a sermon on just that
> topic. He said a lot of times we say, "But what if I'm wrong?", and what
> we really mean is, "How can I know, without having to exercise any faith,
> that I'm doing what's right." And his answer was you can't. You always
> have to have faith, and YOU COULD BE WRONG.
>
> Peggy
>
> At 11:14 PM 8/23/2004 -0600, you wrote:
> >What you read earlier was, what some call, personal prophecy. I don't care
> >if you don't believe in such things and don't ask me to explain it because I
> >can't. I don't often do what I did but when it happens, there is a reason.
> >I rarely do it, overall, but that is beside the point. In Peggy's case, I
> >cannot explain it nor do I care to try. When I wrote to her to let her know
> >we are with her through this experience she is facing, I wrote the word
> >"sister" and suddenly stopped typing. I could not go on. Saying the word
> >"sister" was spiritually insufficient and not only that, it was spiritually
> >wrong. It was not what I felt in my spirit. What I felt in my spirit was
> >"little sister" but Peggy is not my little sister, I don't think anyhow. I
> >backed up and typed in the word "little" in front of the word "sister" and
> >felt stupid doing so. I sat for a moment and said, "Lord, that is stupid.
> >What are we talking about here. So I began to write the rest of the
> >message. No, it was not automatic writing; that is demonic. I knew every
> >word I typed and why. If it makes you feel uncomfortable, I don't feel
> >sorry for you because it wasn't written for you. What if you are wrong, I
> >can hear someone asking. So? I've been wrong before. I wrote what I felt,
> >not heard, but what I felt in my spirit. That's the best I can do and Jesus
> >has to do the rest but I obeyed what He told me to do. No, I don't know
> >Peggy personally. I've talked to her on the phone once or twice but a long
> >time ago. You know her as well as I do if you are on this list. I know one
> >thing. When I wrote that message, I felt God's love for Peggy flowing
> >through me and that's all I am concerned about.
> >
> >Phil.
>
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That is right Peggy.&nbsp; I use to tell people what they would be doing in the future (Prophecy) before I lived for the Lord.&nbsp; but I never ask for money because I knew it was a gift from God and I don't believe in making money off it and also I use to be hesitant in doing it because of being wrong.&nbsp; And a Pastor I knew said.&nbsp; Who cares if your wrong. as long as you are doing what you think God is telling you he will use it for his glory and it will be a blessing to the reciever rather it happens or not.&nbsp; So if God gives me a word for someone I tell them and pray about it too. <BR><BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR><BR>&gt; And the love was received, Phil. Thanks, Father. (And no, Phil isn't my <BR>&gt; father any more than I'm his little sister. <GRIN>) <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Exercising spiritual gifts is always something that puts us in a vulnerable <BR>&gt; position, as there's always the possibility we could be wrong. I remember <BR>&gt; a wonderful preacher named Doug Weed who gave a sermon on just that <BR>&gt; topic. He said a lot of times we say, "But what if I'm wrong?", and what <BR>&gt; we really mean is, "How can I know, without having to exercise any faith, <BR>&gt; that I'm doing what's right." And his answer was you can't. You always <BR>&gt; have to have faith, and YOU COULD BE WRONG. <GRIN><BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Peggy <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; At 11:14 PM 8/23/2004 -0600, you wrote: <BR>&gt; &gt;What you read earlier was, what some call, personal prophecy. I don't care <BR>&gt; &gt;if you don't believe in such things and don't ask me to explain it because I <BR>&gt; &gt;can't. I don't often do what I did but when it happens, there is a reason. <BR>&gt; &gt;I rarely do it, overall, but that is beside the point. In Peggy's case, I <BR>&gt; &gt;cannot explain it nor do I care to try. When I wrote to her to let her know <BR>&gt; &gt;we are with her through this experience she is facing, I wrote the word <BR>&gt; &gt;"sister" and suddenly stopped typing. I could not go on. Saying the word <BR>&gt; &gt;"sister" was spiritually insufficient and not only that, it was spiritually <BR>&gt; &gt;wrong. It was not what I felt in my spirit. What I felt in my spirit was <BR>&gt; &gt;"little sister" but Peggy is not my little sister, I don't think anyhow. I <BR>&gt; &gt;backed up and typed in the word "little" in front of the word "sister" and <BR>&gt; &gt;felt stupid doing so. I sat for a moment and said, "Lord, that is stupid. <BR>&gt; &gt;What are we talking about here. So I began to write the rest of the <BR>&gt; &gt;message. No, it was not automatic writing; that is demonic. I knew every <BR>&gt; &gt;word I typed and why. If it makes you feel uncomfortable, I don't feel <BR>&gt; &gt;sorry for you because it wasn't written for you. What if you are wrong, I <BR>&gt; &gt;can hear someone asking. So? I've been wrong before. I wrote what I felt, <BR>&gt; &gt;not heard, but what I felt in my spirit. That's the best I can do and Jesus <BR>&gt; &gt;has to do the rest but I obeyed what He told me to do. No, I don't know <BR>&gt; &gt;Peggy personally. I've talked to her on the phone once or twice but a long <BR>&gt; &gt;time ago. You know her as well as I do if you are on this list. I know one <BR>&gt; &gt;thing. When I wrote that message, I felt God's love for Peggy flowing <BR>&gt; &gt;through me and that's all I am concerned about. <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;Phil. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; mailto:[log in to unmask] <BR>&gt; http://www.home.earthlink.net/~kernsac <BR>&gt; MSN Messenger [log in to unmask] </BLOCKQUOTE></body></html>

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Alright Kathy get the house ready.  We can have one of those big house warming parties like they have on this old house. Only it will be this new house.


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> Okay, the party's at Kathy's new house!
>
> Peggy
>
> At 06:23 AM 8/24/2004 -0600, you wrote:
> >I think Carol's right. Party time is in order. Smile.
> >
> >Will continue with you in prayer. God is faithful Helen. He will do for
> >you what you cannot do for yourself.
> >
> >Vicki
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Helen"
> >To:
> >Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 5:50 AM
> >Subject: Back again
> >
> >
> > > Good morning, E Church Family,
> > >
> > > I've been away for nearly a month, waiting on the Lord to bring healing to
> > > my spirit, which had been deeply wounded. The healing is not complete as
> > > yet, because I have hindered the Lord by my own foolishness. But I'm
> > > convicted of that, and am bringing an end to it so that the Lord may have
> > > the freedom He desires to answer my prayers for healing. I know some of
> > > you have prayed for me, and for that I am deeply grateful.
> > >
> > > Looking forward to sweet fellowship with you in the Lord.
> > >
> > > Love and blessings,
> > > Helen
> > >
>
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Alright Kathy get the house ready.&nbsp; We can have one of those big house warming parties like they have on this old house. Only it will be this new house. <BR><BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR><BR>&gt; Okay, the party's at Kathy's new house! <SMILE><BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Peggy <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; At 06:23 AM 8/24/2004 -0600, you wrote: <BR>&gt; &gt;I think Carol's right. Party time is in order. Smile. <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;Will continue with you in prayer. God is faithful Helen. He will do for <BR>&gt; &gt;you what you cannot do for yourself. <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;Vicki <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;----- Original Message ----- <BR>&gt; &gt;From: "Helen" <[log in to unmask]><BR>&gt; &gt;To: <[log in to unmask]><BR>&gt; &gt;Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 5:50 AM <BR>&gt; &gt;Subject: Back again <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Good morning, E Church Family, <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; I've been away for nearly a month, waiting on the Lord to bring healing to <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; my spirit, which had been deeply wounded. The healing is not complete as <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; yet, because I have hindered the Lord by my own foolishness. But I'm <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; convicted of that, and am bringing an end to it so that the Lord may have <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; the freedom He desires to answer my prayers for healing. I know some of <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; you have prayed for me, and for that I am deeply grateful. <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Looking forward to sweet fellowship with you in the Lord. <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Love and blessings, <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Helen <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; mailto:[log in to unmask] <BR>&gt; http://www.home.earthlink.net/~kernsac <BR>&gt; MSN Messenger [log in to unmask] </BLOCKQUOTE></body></html>

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Amen I agree. In the name of Jesus.


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> Okay, here's another update. The surgery center at Kaiser called me a
> while ago, and scheduled an appointment for September 7. They wanted to
> make sure it was after my mamogram on the 3rd. Since they're not rushing
> to get me in, I'm taking this as yet another sign that there's nothing to
> worry about.
>
> Will continue to keep you posted.
>
> Peggy
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Kathy, I pray that everything goes smooth for him and that the job is already his In Jesus precious name amen.


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> Hey Guys,
> Matt has a job interview Friday at a restaurant called Arnies. He'd
> really like to get this job because it's less than a mile from campus and
> the people there are really great. He put on his application that he was
> willing to do anything but cook. Well, he's willing to learn, but that's
> about as far as it goes. He's still looking in the mean time, but this
> is the first bite. I'd be glad to have this job search over. He moves
> into his dorm this weekend so the time is really running out for him to
> land something before classes start.
> Kathy
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR><BR>&gt; Hey Guys, <BR>&gt; Matt has a job interview Friday at a restaurant called Arnies. He'd <BR>&gt; really like to get this job because it's less than a mile from campus and <BR>&gt; the people there are really great. He put on his application that he was <BR>&gt; willing to do anything but cook. Well, he's willing to learn, but that's <BR>&gt; about as far as it goes. He's still looking in the mean time, but this <BR>&gt; is the first bite. I'd be glad to have this job search over. He moves <BR>&gt; into his dorm this weekend so the time is really running out for him to <BR>&gt; land something before classes start. <BR>&gt; Kathy <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; ________________________________________________________________ <BR>&gt; The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! <BR>&gt; Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! <BR>&gt; Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! </BLOCKQUOTE></body></html>

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Dear Loving EChurch Family,

First of all, I want you all to know that I'm praying for all your prayer
requests, no matter what they are.

I'm Praising God that on Saturday night, we had the neatest surprise! our
door bell rang, I went to answer the door, and I said "Who is it?" The next
thing I heard was: "It's Brad Duns from EChurch." I was so surprised! I
opened the door and let them in, and I gave them both a big squeeze! Yes,
it was the Loving Brad and Brenda Duns! I was so surprised, and so very
happy to see them! We had a wonderful visit with them and I took some
pictures of them, and Vernon took one of the 3 of us.

Brad is just as we all know him! You know he's funny and sweet and loving!
Yes, Brenda is a real sweetheart! I love her a bunch! Next time they will
stay with us!

Vernon likes them a lot, too! I'm Praising God they came to see us!

Now for my few prayer requests.

Please pray for Vernon's Sister-in-law's, Aunt Mary. She has cancer of the
colon and it has spread to her liver and other places. They didn't get it
all during the surgery, but they did remove her intestine and they told her
she would have 2 years of quality life. Only God knows, and I pray for a
complete healing for this loving lady. She is 86 years old. So far, she's
doing great, and eating everything. Please pray that if she has chemo and
radiation, that she will do okay with that, and have no problems. Please
pray that she can stay in the same house that Vernon stayed in, so she'll
be close to the hospital for her treatments in Mitchell. Betty, Dean's wife
and the rest of Betty's family are very close to her. They have been taking
her back and forth to the doctor.

My next prayer request is about my Mom's and my relationship. Actually, it
could include most of my family.

You all know, unfortunately what rejection is like. I feel as though I've
been rejected by my Mom and she'll see to it that everyone in my family is
on her side. I'm very hurt about what I'm about to tell you.

I called her Saturday night, before Brad and Brenda came, and I said the
usual "Hi! Loving!" She said hi and then she said. "You know what Pat! I'm
really getting tired of this loving stuff. Every Other word is 'loving'." I
told her that's not true. I couldn't believe what I was hearing from her.
She wasn't drinking, either. She said it in a really crabby voice which is
so much like her when she's not drinking.

I lashed out, and I told her that Harvey and Joe don't mind it, but
Sherilyn, Birdie and her don't like it. I also told her that all my friends
love me for who I am and that they love me unconditionally. I told her my
friends love me more than my entire family loves me. Of course, she denied
it. I started crying and I was really upset.

We continued to talk about other things, but I was upset and didn't want to
talk to her any more. I ended the conversation and told her that I loved
her and hung up.

I called her on Sunday afternoon and left a message on her answering
machine and I apologized for the things I said. I've not heard from her at
all. In other words, she has not acknowledged my apology at all.

I'm not going to call her for a long time.

I did ask for God's forgiveness for what I said to her. I should have
worded it different.

I'm so tired of rejection from my family. I actually thought things were
getting better, but it's obvious that they only put up with me because they
feel they have to. I do all the calling, and they never call me very often.
I doubt they will even call me on my birthday.

Please pray that I can deal with this rejection and that she doesn't turn
the whole family against me. I think she'll probably do that.

Thanks much for your prayers and for listening. All your advice is
appreciated. I could write a book about this stuff, but I don't think you
want to hear it.

I love you all so very much. Thanks for always putting up with me and for
being my friends.

Love and Blessings,
Pat Ferguson
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Well do a bon fire in the back yard and roast hotdogs marshmellows and hot chocolate oh yah and somemores


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> Come on over! I've got plenty of room, but I don't have a stove yet so
> don't count on me cooking anything.
> Kathy
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thank you.  I recieve everything Jesus has for me and want to use it for his glory.  thank you Jesus praise Your Holy name.


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> Amen!
> Karen, I agree with Carol in her prayer. Now, receive the blessings He has
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>
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Date:         Tue, 24 Aug 2004 21:18:34 -0500
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Kathy,

lol. Well, I would have a "Finishing this house party." lol.

Make a bunch of food and you might need a few cases of beer, and of course
some soda pop, and well, just have a big meal! lol. Make sure they know
they can eat and drink after the house is finished! lol.

I really wish this theory worked! lol.

It's fun to think about though! lol.

Lovings!
Pat Ferguson


At 11:21 AM 8/24/04, you wrote:
>Pray hard Helen!  They're expecting this house to take at least six more
>weeks.They're way behind schedule and they're not working here today at
>all.  We're still waiting on the plumber.  I guess that my chocolate chip
>cookies didn't work.  Hmmmm, maybe brownies loaded with chocolate chips
>would bring him round.  Hey Pat, what do construction workers like?
>Kathy
>
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Dear Helen, and Everyone,

Oh Loving Helen, you are so sweet! Your words are from your heart, and from
Jesus. They comfort me.

You guys, do you know my Mother put me in a Baby home for 5 years because
she couldn't deal with me with my blindness. I stayed with all kinds of
people when I was little before I was five when they brought me home that
summer before I was taken to the Oregon State School for the Blind. I never
felt a part of my family and I really still don't. It hurts me.

When she said those horrible things to me on Saturday night, I wanted to
tell her that I would quit calling people Loving, if she would quit smoking
and drinking, but I did not say that to her.

My love is from The Lord, and I'll never stop telling people they are
loving. I'll never stop calling people loving, either. If I do that, I will
be disobeying Jesus. It's because Jesus that this love exists, not because
of me. I'm not capable of loving that much, but through Our Lord, Jesus
Christ, we can do all things. I love to love people as God wants me to. I
won't let anyone take that love away from me.

I learned how to love when I was at the School for the Blind. We were loved
a whole lot. Yes, we were punished when we did wrong, but just ask Cecily
and Paulette, we were also loved, and we were squeezed.

So, guys, I'm sending this with all the love in my heart and you are all
Loving! Because God made you that way.

Am I crazy? Probably yes. I'm crazy for Jesus, and I don't care what anyone
thinks.

Love and Blessings,
Pat Ferguson

At 12:20 PM 8/24/04, you wrote:
>Thank you, dear loving Pat,
>
>With so many praying for me, and upholding me to the Father, the complete
>healing of my spirit will surely come quickly.  God is so good!  And I pray
>the same for you, that your wounded spirit will heal quickly as well.  This
>scripture always ministers to me:
>
>Pr 18:14  The spirit of a man will sustain his infirmity; but a wounded
>spirit who can bear?
>
>This tells me that when our spirits are wounded, if they are not healed
>quickly, it hinders us from being healed of our physical infirmities.
>
>In Him, and with my love,
>Helen
>
>
>
>Earlier, Pat Ferguson wrote:
> >Dear loving Helen,
> >
> >I write this message to you with tears in my eyes.
> >
> >I'm praying for you Loving One. I'm praying that God will give you a
> >healing, and that you will be comforted in His love and Grace.
> >
> >I know what it is like to have your spirit woonded. I've been deeply hurt
> >lately by my Mother, and I'll share that with you all in another message.
> >
> >Helen, if you ever want to talk, I can call you any time.
> >
> >You are such a sweet blessing to all of us, and we love you more than you
> >will ever know.
> >
> >I just wish I could squeeze everyone with a broken heart and let them know
> >they are loving, despite what my Mother said to me which hurt me deeply.
> >
> >Many lovings and squeezings for you, Helen, and Praying for God's comfort
> >and peace and complete healing for your broken spirit.
> >
> >Love and Blessings,
> >Pat Ferguson
> >
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Kathy,

Amen!

Love,
Pat Ferguson



At 12:42 PM 8/24/04, you wrote:
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>like the church is back in full force.  Kathy
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Kathy and Karen and everyone,

There's nothing wrong with a beer, but only after they are done working.
<smile>

Love,
Pat Ferguson

At 01:54 PM 8/24/04, you wrote:
>Well, so far, when we clean up in the evening, after they've gone, we've
>only found soft drink bottles and some gaderade bottles.  I did hear one
>of the guys who was working on the foundation lament for a beer, but it
>was very hot and tiring work and he didn't get his wish anyway.
>Kathy
>
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  From: Pat Ferguson<mailto:[log in to unmask]> pat:

   How neat that Brad and Brenda came to visit!  What a nice surprise!

  I'm sad to hear about your mom.  I will pray that Jesus will give her =
His love and that she will except it.  I think the reason she doesn't =
like all this "loving stuff" is that she doesn't have love in her life, =
and maybe she doesn't love herself.  How can she if she doesn't realize =
how big and marvelous God's love is for her?  I know you are hurt and a =
bit angry, and I don't blame you.  My advise, though, and it's harder to =
do than to say, is to keep praying she will accept what God did for her. =
 People who try to make others miserable are miserable themselves.  I'm =
sure you know all this, but it's just a friendly reminder that we all =
need from time to time.

  I'll also pray for this friend of yours. =20

  Love,

  Julie, who never gets tired of being called Loving

  To: =
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  Dear Loving EChurch Family,

  First of all, I want you all to know that I'm praying for all your =
prayer
  requests, no matter what they are.

  I'm Praising God that on Saturday night, we had the neatest surprise! =
our
  door bell rang, I went to answer the door, and I said "Who is it?" The =
next
  thing I heard was: "It's Brad Duns from EChurch." I was so surprised! =
I
  opened the door and let them in, and I gave them both a big squeeze! =
Yes,
  it was the Loving Brad and Brenda Duns! I was so surprised, and so =
very
  happy to see them! We had a wonderful visit with them and I took some
  pictures of them, and Vernon took one of the 3 of us.

  Brad is just as we all know him! You know he's funny and sweet and =
loving!
  Yes, Brenda is a real sweetheart! I love her a bunch! Next time they =
will
  stay with us!

  Vernon likes them a lot, too! I'm Praising God they came to see us!

  Now for my few prayer requests.

  Please pray for Vernon's Sister-in-law's, Aunt Mary. She has cancer of =
the
  colon and it has spread to her liver and other places. They didn't get =
it
  all during the surgery, but they did remove her intestine and they =
told her
  she would have 2 years of quality life. Only God knows, and I pray for =
a
  complete healing for this loving lady. She is 86 years old. So far, =
she's
  doing great, and eating everything. Please pray that if she has chemo =
and
  radiation, that she will do okay with that, and have no problems. =
Please
  pray that she can stay in the same house that Vernon stayed in, so =
she'll
  be close to the hospital for her treatments in Mitchell. Betty, Dean's =
wife
  and the rest of Betty's family are very close to her. They have been =
taking
  her back and forth to the doctor.

  My next prayer request is about my Mom's and my relationship. =
Actually, it
  could include most of my family.

  You all know, unfortunately what rejection is like. I feel as though =
I've
  been rejected by my Mom and she'll see to it that everyone in my =
family is
  on her side. I'm very hurt about what I'm about to tell you.

  I called her Saturday night, before Brad and Brenda came, and I said =
the
  usual "Hi! Loving!" She said hi and then she said. "You know what Pat! =
I'm
  really getting tired of this loving stuff. Every Other word is =
'loving'." I
  told her that's not true. I couldn't believe what I was hearing from =
her.
  She wasn't drinking, either. She said it in a really crabby voice =
which is
  so much like her when she's not drinking.

  I lashed out, and I told her that Harvey and Joe don't mind it, but
  Sherilyn, Birdie and her don't like it. I also told her that all my =
friends
  love me for who I am and that they love me unconditionally. I told her =
my
  friends love me more than my entire family loves me. Of course, she =
denied
  it. I started crying and I was really upset.

  We continued to talk about other things, but I was upset and didn't =
want to
  talk to her any more. I ended the conversation and told her that I =
loved
  her and hung up.

  I called her on Sunday afternoon and left a message on her answering
  machine and I apologized for the things I said. I've not heard from =
her at
  all. In other words, she has not acknowledged my apology at all.

  I'm not going to call her for a long time.

  I did ask for God's forgiveness for what I said to her. I should have
  worded it different.

  I'm so tired of rejection from my family. I actually thought things =
were
  getting better, but it's obvious that they only put up with me because =
they
  feel they have to. I do all the calling, and they never call me very =
often.
  I doubt they will even call me on my birthday.

  Please pray that I can deal with this rejection and that she doesn't =
turn
  the whole family against me. I think she'll probably do that.

  Thanks much for your prayers and for listening. All your advice is
  appreciated. I could write a book about this stuff, but I don't think =
you
  want to hear it.

  I love you all so very much. Thanks for always putting up with me and =
for
  being my friends.

  Love and Blessings,
  Pat Ferguson

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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">&nbsp;How neat that Brad and Brenda =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">I'm sad to hear about your mom.&nbsp; =
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her?&nbsp; I=20
  know you are hurt and a bit angry, and I don't blame you.&nbsp; My =
advise,=20
  though, and it's harder to do than to say, is to keep praying she will =
accept=20
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are=20
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a=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">I'll also pray for this friend of =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 24, 2004 =
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>Dear Loving EChurch Family,<BR><BR>First of all, I want =
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what they=20
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was so=20
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a big=20
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surprised,=20
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and I=20
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came to=20
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Lord I pray that you be with Vernon's sister-in-law Aunt Mary.  Keep her in your hands and protect her.  Bring her through Lord and stronger than before.  You can make her whole again.  thank you Jesus for your perfect healing in Your precious name I pray  Amen.
 Lord you knew us from the beginning of time.   You never reject us Lord.  Help Pat to know your peace and you tell us that a friend sticketh closer than a brother.  Amen.  Are friends are more like family than family. You did the right thing Pat.  Just keep her in your prayers and keep loving her.  She may have been feeling conviction.
We don't put up with you we want you.  I do not know you well but I do not reject  you.  You are a child of God and that means you are royality.   And God never rejects you because he made you and everything he makes is beautiful.  Just love them and pray for them.  You do not have to call them and be hurt.  Let them call you if they choose.  If not keep praying the Lord touches their hearts and they can except you for who you are.  They need to see through Jesus eyes and heart not their own.



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-------------- Original message --------------

> Dear Loving EChurch Family,
>
> First of all, I want you all to know that I'm praying for all your prayer
> requests, no matter what they are.
>
> I'm Praising God that on Saturday night, we had the neatest surprise! our
> door bell rang, I went to answer the door, and I said "Who is it?" The next
> thing I heard was: "It's Brad Duns from EChurch." I was so surprised! I
> opened the door and let them in, and I gave them both a big squeeze! Yes,
> it was the Loving Brad and Brenda Duns! I was so surprised, and so very
> happy to see them! We had a wonderful visit with them and I took some
> pictures of them, and Vernon took one of the 3 of us.
>
> Brad is just as we all know him! You know he's funny and sweet and loving!
> Yes, Brenda is a real sweetheart! I love her a bunch! Next time they will
> stay with us!
>
> Vernon likes them a lot, too! I'm Praising God they came to see us!
>
> Now for my few prayer requests.
>
> Please pray for Vernon's Sister-in-law's, Aunt Mary. She has cancer of the
> colon and it has spread to her liver and other places. They didn't get it
> all during the surgery, but they did remove her intestine and they told her
> she would have 2 years of quality life. Only God knows, and I pray for a
> complete healing for this loving lady. She is 86 years old. So far, she's
> doing great, and eating everything. Please pray that if she has chemo and
> radiation, that she will do okay with that, and have no problems. Please
> pray that she can stay in the same house that Vernon stayed in, so she'll
> be close to the hospital for her treatments in Mitchell. Betty, Dean's wife
> and the rest of Betty's family are very close to her. They have been taking
> her back and forth to the doctor.
>
> My next prayer request is about my Mom's and my relationship. Actually, it
> could include most of my family.
>
> You all know, unfortunately what rejection is like. I feel as though I've
> been rejected by my Mom and she'll see to it that everyone in my family is
> on her side. I'm very hurt about what I'm about to tell you.
>
> I called her Saturday night, before Brad and Brenda came, and I said the
> usual "Hi! Loving!" She said hi and then she said. "You know what Pat! I'm
> really getting tired of this loving stuff. Every Other word is 'loving'." I
> told her that's not true. I couldn't believe what I was hearing from her.
> She wasn't drinking, either. She said it in a really crabby voice which is
> so much like her when she's not drinking.
>
> I lashed out, and I told her that Harvey and Joe don't mind it, but
> Sherilyn, Birdie and her don't like it. I also told her that all my friends
> love me for who I am and that they love me unconditionally. I told her my
> friends love me more than my entire family loves me. Of course, she denied
> it. I started crying and I was really upset.
>
> We continued to talk about other things, but I was upset and didn't want to
> talk to her any more. I ended the conversation and told her that I loved
> her and hung up.
>
> I called her on Sunday afternoon and left a message on her answering
> machine and I apologized for the things I said. I've not heard from her at
> all. In other words, she has not acknowledged my apology at all.
>
> I'm not going to call her for a long time.
>
> I did ask for God's forgiveness for what I said to her. I should have
> worded it different.
>
> I'm so tired of rejection from my family. I actually thought things were
> getting better, but it's obvious that they only put up with me because they
> feel they have to. I do all the calling, and they never call me very often.
> I doubt they will even call me on my birthday.
>
> Please pray that I can deal with this rejection and that she doesn't turn
> the whole family against me. I think she'll probably do that.
>
> Thanks much for your prayers and for listening. All your advice is
> appreciated. I could write a book about this stuff, but I don't think you
> want to hear it.
>
> I love you all so very much. Thanks for always putting up with me and for
> being my friends.
>
> Love and Blessings,
> Pat Ferguson
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<P>Lord I pray that you be with Vernon's sister-in-law Aunt Mary.&nbsp; Keep her in your hands and protect her.&nbsp; Bring her through Lord and stronger than before.&nbsp; You can make her whole again.&nbsp; thank you Jesus for your perfect healing in&nbsp;Your precious name I pray&nbsp; Amen.</P>
<P>&nbsp;Lord you knew us from the beginning of time.&nbsp;&nbsp; You never reject us Lord.&nbsp; Help Pat to know your peace and you tell us that a friend sticketh closer than a brother.&nbsp; Amen.&nbsp; Are friends are more like family than family.&nbsp;You did the right thing Pat.&nbsp; Just keep her in your prayers and keep loving her.&nbsp; She may have been feeling conviction.&nbsp; </P>
<P>We don't put up with you we want you.&nbsp; I do not know you well but I do not reject &nbsp;you.&nbsp; You are a child of God and that means you are royality.&nbsp;&nbsp; And God never rejects you because he made you and everything he makes is beautiful.&nbsp; Just love them and pray for them.&nbsp; You do not have to call them and be hurt.&nbsp; Let them call you if they choose.&nbsp; If not keep praying the Lord touches their hearts and they can except you for who you are.&nbsp; They need to see through Jesus eyes and heart not their own.&nbsp; </P>
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<DIV class=signature id=signature>--<BR>In any kind of circumstance PRAY <BR><BR>Karen Carter 74'</DIV><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR><BR>&gt; Dear Loving EChurch Family, <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; First of all, I want you all to know that I'm praying for all your prayer <BR>&gt; requests, no matter what they are. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I'm Praising God that on Saturday night, we had the neatest surprise! our <BR>&gt; door bell rang, I went to answer the door, and I said "Who is it?" The next <BR>&gt; thing I heard was: "It's Brad Duns from EChurch." I was so surprised! I <BR>&gt; opened the door and let them in, and I gave them both a big squeeze! Yes, <BR>&gt; it was the Loving Brad and Brenda Duns! I was so surprised, and so very <BR>&gt; happy to see them! We had a wonderful visit with them and I took some <BR>&gt; pictures of them, and Vernon took one of the 3 of us. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Brad is just as we all know him! You know he's funny and sweet and loving! <BR>&gt; Yes, Brenda is a real sweetheart! I love her a bunch! Next time they will <BR>&gt; stay with us! <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Vernon likes them a lot, too! I'm Praising God they came to see us! <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Now for my few prayer requests. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Please pray for Vernon's Sister-in-law's, Aunt Mary. She has cancer of the <BR>&gt; colon and it has spread to her liver and other places. They didn't get it <BR>&gt; all during the surgery, but they did remove her intestine and they told her <BR>&gt; she would have 2 years of quality life. Only God knows, and I pray for a <BR>&gt; complete healing for this loving lady. She is 86 years old. So far, she's <BR>&gt; doing great, and eating everything. Please pray that if she has chemo and <BR>&gt; radiation, that she will do okay with that, and have no problems. Please <BR>&gt; pray that she can stay in the same house that Vernon stayed in, so she'll <BR>&gt; be close to the hospital for her treatments in Mitchell. Betty, Dean's wife <BR>&gt; and the rest of Betty's family are very close to her. They have been taking <BR>&gt; her back and forth to the doctor. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; My next prayer request is about my Mom's and my relationship. Actually, it <BR>&gt; could include most of my family. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; You all know, unfortunately what rejection is like. I feel as though I've <BR>&gt; been rejected by my Mom and she'll see to it that everyone in my family is <BR>&gt; on her side. I'm very hurt about what I'm about to tell you. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I called her Saturday night, before Brad and Brenda came, and I said the <BR>&gt; usual "Hi! Loving!" She said hi and then she said. "You know what Pat! I'm <BR>&gt; really getting tired of this loving stuff. Every Other word is 'loving'." I <BR>&gt; told her that's not true. I couldn't believe what I was hearing from her. <BR>&gt; She wasn't drinking, either. She said it in a really crabby voice which is <BR>&gt; so much like her when she's not drinking. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I lashed out, and I told her that Harvey and Joe don't mind it, but <BR>&gt; Sherilyn, Birdie and her don't like it. I also told her that all my friends <BR>&gt; love me for who I am and that they love me unconditionally. I told her my <BR>&gt; friends love me more than my entire family loves me. Of course, she denied <BR>&gt; it. I started crying and I was really upset. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; We continued to talk about other things, but I was upset and didn't want to <BR>&gt; talk to her any more. I ended the conversation and told her that I loved <BR>&gt; her and hung up. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I called her on Sunday afternoon and left a message on her answering <BR>&gt; machine and I apologized for the things I said. I've not heard from her at <BR>&gt; all. In other words, she has not acknowledged my apology at all. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I'm not going to call her for a long time. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I did ask for God's forgiveness for what I said to her. I should have <BR>&gt; worded it different. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I'm so tired of rejection from my family. I actually thought things were <BR>&gt; getting better, but it's obvious that they only put up with me because they <BR>&gt; feel they have to. I do all the calling, and they never call me very often. <BR>&gt; I doubt they will even call me on my birthday. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Please pray that I can deal with this rejection and that she doesn't turn <BR>&gt; the whole family against me. I think she'll probably do that. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Thanks much for your prayers and for listening. All your advice is <BR>&gt; appreciated. I could write a book about this stuff, but I don't think you <BR>&gt; want to hear it. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I love you all so very much. Thanks for always putting up with me and for <BR>&gt; being my friends. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Love and Blessings, <BR>&gt; Pat Ferguson </BLOCKQUOTE></body></html>

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Good girl Pat,   My best friend has the same problem her mother put her in a state operated home and than she came to Michigan School for the blind.  Just to day I had to tell her to let go of her so called mother and just treat her like an aquaintance.  Keep loving and praying for her but do not subject youself to anymore of her rejection.  You may have to do the same.  Like I told her.  You can not make them love you so just lean on us that do and keep praying for her.  She may not ever come around but you are doing the right thing by God and she will have to answer to him, and that is also true of your family.  You keep loving, praying and staying strong in the Lord and he will see you through and like I told my friend.  They will have to answer to God.  And God will bless and reward you for the good you have done fore them.  You keep being crazy for Jesus because he is crazy for you.  He loves you even before the earth was formed.  So it is better to be crazy for him than to give in to mans opinion.  They did not form the universe or the earth he did.  Keep up the good work
I am kookoo for Jesus kookoo for Jesus.  God bless you.


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> Dear Helen, and Everyone,
>
> Oh Loving Helen, you are so sweet! Your words are from your heart, and from
> Jesus. They comfort me.
>
> You guys, do you know my Mother put me in a Baby home for 5 years because
> she couldn't deal with me with my blindness. I stayed with all kinds of
> people when I was little before I was five when they brought me home that
> summer before I was taken to the Oregon State School for the Blind. I never
> felt a part of my family and I really still don't. It hurts me.
>
> When she said those horrible things to me on Saturday night, I wanted to
> tell her that I would quit calling people Loving, if she would quit smoking
> and drinking, but I did not say that to her.
>
> My love is from The Lord, and I'll never stop telling people they are
> loving. I'll never stop calling people loving, either. If I do that, I will
> be disobeying Jesus. It's because Jesus that this love exists, not because
> of me. I'm not capable of loving that much, but through Our Lord, Jesus
> Christ, we can do all things. I love to love people as God wants me to. I
> won't let anyone take that love away from me.
>
> I learned how to love when I was at the School for the Blind. We were loved
> a whole lot. Yes, we were punished when we did wrong, but just ask Cecily
> and Paulette, we were also loved, and we were squeezed.
>
> So, guys, I'm sending this with all the love in my heart and you are all
> Loving! Because God made you that way.
>
> Am I crazy? Probably yes. I'm crazy for Jesus, and I don't care what anyone
> thinks.
>
> Love and Blessings,
> Pat Ferguson
>
> At 12:20 PM 8/24/04, you wrote:
> >Thank you, dear loving Pat,
> >
> >With so many praying for me, and upholding me to the Father, the complete
> >healing of my spirit will surely come quickly. God is so good! And I pray
> >the same for you, that your wounded spirit will heal quickly as well. This
> >scripture always ministers to me:
> >
> >Pr 18:14 The spirit of a man will sustain his infirmity; but a wounded
> >spirit who can bear?
> >
> >This tells me that when our spirits are wounded, if they are not healed
> >quickly, it hinders us from being healed of our physical infirmities.
> >
> >In Him, and with my love,
> >Helen
> >
> >
> >
> >Earlier, Pat Ferguson wrote:
> > >Dear loving Helen,
> > >
> > >I write this message to you with tears in my eyes.
> > >
> > >I'm praying for you Loving One. I'm praying that God will give you a
> > >healing, and that you will be comforted in His love and Grace.
> > >
> > >I know what it is like to have your spirit woonded. I've been deeply hurt
> > >lately by my Mother, and I'll share that with you all in another message.
> > >
> > >Helen, if you ever want to talk, I can call you any time.
> > >
> > >You are such a sweet blessing to all of us, and we love you more than you
> > >will ever know.
> > >
> > >I just wish I could squeeze everyone with a broken heart and let them know
> > >they are loving, despite what my Mother said to me which hurt me deeply.
> > >
> > >Many lovings and squeezings for you, Helen, and Praying for God's comfort
> > >and peace and complete healing for your broken spirit.
> > >
> > >Love and Blessings,
> > >Pat Ferguson
> > >
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<P>Good girl Pat,&nbsp;&nbsp; My best friend has the same problem her mother put her in a state operated home and than she came to Michigan School for the blind.&nbsp; Just to day I had to tell her to let go of her so called mother and just treat her like an aquaintance.&nbsp; Keep loving and praying for her but do not subject youself to anymore of her rejection.&nbsp; You may have to do the same.&nbsp; Like I told her.&nbsp; You can not make them love you so just lean on us that do and keep praying for her.&nbsp; She may not ever come around but you are doing the right thing by God and she will have to answer to him, and that is also true of your family.&nbsp; You keep loving, praying and staying strong in the Lord and he will see you through and like I told my friend.&nbsp; They will have to answer to God.&nbsp; And God will bless and reward you for the good you have done fore them.&nbsp; You keep being crazy for Jesus because he is crazy for you.&nbsp; He loves you even before the earth was formed.&nbsp; So it is better to be crazy for him than to give in to mans opinion.&nbsp; They did not form the universe or the earth he did.&nbsp; Keep up the good work </P>
<P>I am kookoo for Jesus kookoo for Jesus.&nbsp; God bless you.&nbsp; <BR><BR></P>
<DIV class=signature id=signature>--<BR>In any kind of circumstance PRAY <BR><BR>Karen Carter 74'</DIV><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR><BR>&gt; Dear Helen, and Everyone, <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Oh Loving Helen, you are so sweet! Your words are from your heart, and from <BR>&gt; Jesus. They comfort me. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; You guys, do you know my Mother put me in a Baby home for 5 years because <BR>&gt; she couldn't deal with me with my blindness. I stayed with all kinds of <BR>&gt; people when I was little before I was five when they brought me home that <BR>&gt; summer before I was taken to the Oregon State School for the Blind. I never <BR>&gt; felt a part of my family and I really still don't. It hurts me. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; When she said those horrible things to me on Saturday night, I wanted to <BR>&gt; tell her that I would quit calling people Loving, if she would quit smoking <BR>&gt; and drinking, but I did not say that to her. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; My love is from The Lord, and I'll never stop telling people they are <BR>&gt; loving. I'll never stop calling people loving, either. If I do that, I will <BR>&gt; be disobeying Jesus. It's because Jesus that this love exists, not because <BR>&gt; of me. I'm not capable of loving that much, but through Our Lord, Jesus <BR>&gt; Christ, we can do all things. I love to love people as God wants me to. I <BR>&gt; won't let anyone take that love away from me. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I learned how to love when I was at the School for the Blind. We were loved <BR>&gt; a whole lot. Yes, we were punished when we did wrong, but just ask Cecily <BR>&gt; and Paulette, we were also loved, and we were squeezed. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; So, guys, I'm sending this with all the love in my heart and you are all <BR>&gt; Loving! Because God made you that way. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Am I crazy? Probably yes. I'm crazy for Jesus, and I don't care what anyone <BR>&gt; thinks. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Love and Blessings, <BR>&gt; Pat Ferguson <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; At 12:20 PM 8/24/04, you wrote: <BR>&gt; &gt;Thank you, dear loving Pat, <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;With so many praying for me, and upholding me to the Father, the complete <BR>&gt; &gt;healing of my spirit will surely come quickly. God is so good! And I pray <BR>&gt; &gt;the same for you, that your wounded spirit will heal quickly as well. This <BR>&gt; &gt;scripture always ministers to me: <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;Pr 18:14 The spirit of a man will sustain his infirmity; but a wounded <BR>&gt; &gt;spirit who can bear? <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;This tells me that when our spirits are wounded, if they are not healed <BR>&gt; &gt;quickly, it hinders us from being healed of our physical infirmities. <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;In Him, and with my love, <BR>&gt; &gt;Helen <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;Earlier, Pat Ferguson wrote: <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;Dear loving Helen, <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;I write this message to you with tears in my eyes. <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;I'm praying for you Loving One. I'm praying that God will give you a <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;healing, and that you will be comforted in His love and Grace. <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;I know what it is like to have your spirit woonded. I've been deeply hurt <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;lately by my Mother, and I'll share that with you all in another message. <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;Helen, if you ever want to talk, I can call you any time. <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;You are such a sweet blessing to all of us, and we love you more than you <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;will ever know. <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;I just wish I could squeeze everyone with a broken heart and let them know <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;they are loving, despite what my Mother said to me which hurt me deeply. <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;Many lovings and squeezings for you, Helen, and Praying for God's comfort <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;and peace and complete healing for your broken spirit. <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;Love and Blessings, <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;Pat Ferguson <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; </BLOCKQUOTE></body></html>

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Well one beer for me would lead to anothe and anothe and another and well you get the picture.  I stick to Coca-cola.


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> Kathy and Karen and everyone,
>
> There's nothing wrong with a beer, but only after they are done working.
>
>
> Love,
> Pat Ferguson
>
> At 01:54 PM 8/24/04, you wrote:
> >Well, so far, when we clean up in the evening, after they've gone, we've
> >only found soft drink bottles and some gaderade bottles. I did hear one
> >of the guys who was working on the foundation lament for a beer, but it
> >was very hot and tiring work and he didn't get his wish anyway.
> >Kathy
> >
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Well one beer for me would lead to anothe and anothe and another and well you get the picture.&nbsp; I stick to Coca-cola. <BR><BR>
<DIV class=signature id=signature>--<BR>In any kind of circumstance PRAY <BR><BR>Karen Carter 74'</DIV><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR><BR>&gt; Kathy and Karen and everyone, <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; There's nothing wrong with a beer, but only after they are done working. <BR>&gt; <SMILE><BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Love, <BR>&gt; Pat Ferguson <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; At 01:54 PM 8/24/04, you wrote: <BR>&gt; &gt;Well, so far, when we clean up in the evening, after they've gone, we've <BR>&gt; &gt;only found soft drink bottles and some gaderade bottles. I did hear one <BR>&gt; &gt;of the guys who was working on the foundation lament for a beer, but it <BR>&gt; &gt;was very hot and tiring work and he didn't get his wish anyway. <BR>&gt; &gt;Kathy <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;________________________________________________________________ <BR>&gt; &gt;The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! <BR>&gt; &gt;Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! <BR>&gt; &gt;Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! </BLOCKQUOTE></body></html>

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Sending prayers Mattward.

Peggy

At 08:44 PM 8/24/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>Hey Guys,
>Matt has a job interview Friday at a restaurant called Arnies.   He'd
>really like to get this job because it's less than a mile from campus and
>the people there are really great.  He put on his application that he was
>willing to do anything but cook.  Well, he's willing to learn, but that's
>about as far as it goes.    He's still looking in the mean time, but this
>is the first bite.  I'd be glad to have this job search over.  He moves
>into his dorm this weekend so the time is really running out for him to
>land something before classes start.
>Kathy
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Karen, are you trying to tell us you're a wild and crazy party
girl?  <grin>  Just kidding.  If you know that one beer leads to another
and another and another, you're wise to choose coke.  <smile>

BTW, welcome to the list.  Do you have any Kathy stories to tell us from
school days?  <evil grin, and running for cover>

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>
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>-------------- Original message --------------
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> > Kathy and Karen and everyone,
> >
> > There's nothing wrong with a beer, but only after they are done working.
> >
> >
> > Love,
> > Pat Ferguson
> >
> > At 01:54 PM 8/24/04, you wrote:
> > >Well, so far, when we clean up in the evening, after they've gone, we've
> > >only found soft drink bottles and some gaderade bottles. I did hear one
> > >of the guys who was working on the foundation lament for a beer, but it
> > >was very hot and tiring work and he didn't get his wish anyway.
> > >Kathy
> > >
> > >________________________________________________________________
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>-------------- Original message --------------
>
> > Kathy and Karen and everyone,
> >
> > There's nothing wrong with a beer, but only after they are done working.
> >
> >
> > Love,
> > Pat Ferguson
> >
> > At 01:54 PM 8/24/04, you wrote:
> > >Well, so far, when we clean up in the evening, after they've gone, we've
> > >only found soft drink bottles and some gaderade bottles. I did hear one
> > >of the guys who was working on the foundation lament for a beer, but it
> > >was very hot and tiring work and he didn't get his wish anyway.
> > >Kathy
> > >
> > >________________________________________________________________
> > >The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!
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Thanks Julie.  Will be praying for Tracy as well.

Vicki

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>   From: Vicki and The Rors<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Oh, I am =
> praying that you will not remain bookless.  I know what a pain that can =
> be!  I also pray your headache will get out of ghere. =20
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>   Tracey starts school todan,a and she does have Monday class, as well =
> as on Tuesday!  Please pray for her as well, as both classes go quite =
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>   Hi,
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>   Just time enough to note that this is my first day of school and I'm =
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>   a book.  So do pray for that situation.  I woke with a tremendous =
> headache,
>   and before school, I have to get through a day of work.  My class is =
> late
>   this time.  It will be just before 9:00 by the time I get home.  =
> Tuesday and
>   Thursday will be my long days.  Guess I'm glad it's not Monday.  =
> Smile.
>   Trusting in the Lord's strength and help today.
>
>   Blessing to each of you.
>   Vicki
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Here's the long and short of how God worked in this class situation.  Keep
in mind that there are lots of econ classes with other instructors.  This
instructor has several sections of the class.  I had almost decided that
since the textbook was not available anywhere that I'd go to this first
class and then probably drop.  Sure I could scan the book, but lots of
graphs and geometry and algebra.  Considering that I am math challenged,
sounded like the best solution to me after having had a day that was a
Monday on a Tuesday; if you know what I mean.  So I showed up in class, as
did the whole room full of other would-be students.  During the class, the
instructor made reference to this woman in his class as a student this
Semester, having been in his class last Semester.  At the end of class, I
heard him ask her when her other kornea transplant was scheduled.  Naturally
my ears became antenna-like.  More information forth coming was that she was
now fully able to read print.  So that was miracle one.  Miracle two is that
disability services office who specifically told me that this book was not
in their catalog had actually recorded it for her and when she tried to
return it to them, they refused to accept it back.  Therefore, she still had
it in her possession.  So she will bring the tape recordeded text book to me
next class.  Miracle 3 is that we could have been in the same class at all.
There are lots of Macro Econ classes.  This instructor teaches 6 or 7
sections alone.  Then there are all those taught by other instructors.

Thanks for praying.  Best of all, God gets all the glory.  What a
prayer-answering God we serve.  I have no objection if you pray me through
the rest of the class.  Grin.

Vicki
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Thanks Helen.  I sure needed the prayer.  Took my coffee right off to work.
LOL!

Vicki

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> Dear Vicki,
>
> I pray your headache will disappear, and that your book will
> appear!!  Sounds like very long days you'll be having on Tuesdays and
> Thursdays, and I pray you the strength of the Lord to get you through with
> great success.
>
> Thinking of you and praying for you as you enjoy your coffee this
> morning!  Smile
>
> Hugs,
> Helen
>
> Earlier, Vicki and The Rors wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >Just time enough to note that this is my first day of school and I'm
without
> >a book.  So do pray for that situation.  I woke with a tremendous
headache,
> >and before school, I have to get through a day of work.  My class is late
> >this time.  It will be just before 9:00 by the time I get home.  Tuesday
and
> >Thursday will be my long days.  Guess I'm glad it's not Monday.  Smile.
> >Trusting in the Lord's strength and help today.
> >
> >Blessing to each of you.
> >Vicki
>
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Thanks Pat.  I'll save some of those squeezings for the rest of the semester
too.

Vicki

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> Vicki,
>
> I'm praying for you, that The Lord will provide that book for you in the
> format that is pleasing to you. I'm Praying for your headake, and
everything.
>
> Many lovings and squeezings to get you through the Semester.
>
> Love and Blessings,
> Pat Ferguson
> At 07:21 AM 8/24/04, you wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >Just time enough to note that this is my first day of school and I'm
without
> >a book.  So do pray for that situation.  I woke with a tremendous
headache,
> >and before school, I have to get through a day of work.  My class is late
> >this time.  It will be just before 9:00 by the time I get home.  Tuesday
and
> >Thursday will be my long days.  Guess I'm glad it's not Monday.  Smile.
> >Trusting in the Lord's strength and help today.
> >
> >Blessing to each of you.
> >Vicki
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Date:         Tue, 24 Aug 2004 22:39:44 -0600
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Thanks Vinny.  I knew you'd know how this is.

Vicki

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> Oh Vicki,
> I shure know what that's like to be in school without books.  May the Lord
> lead you and show you how to deal with that situation.
>
> Vinny
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> From: "Vicki and The Rors" <[log in to unmask]>
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>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Just time enough to note that this is my first day of school and I'm
> without
> > a book.  So do pray for that situation.  I woke with a tremendous
> headache,
> > and before school, I have to get through a day of work.  My class is
late
> > this time.  It will be just before 9:00 by the time I get home.  Tuesday
> and
> > Thursday will be my long days.  Guess I'm glad it's not Monday.  Smile.
> > Trusting in the Lord's strength and help today.
> >
> > Blessing to each of you.
> > Vicki
> >
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Date:         Wed, 25 Aug 2004 00:42:50 -0400
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Peggy, I've been praying hard for you as well as praying for everyone and I
hope things go all right for you and that you have nothing at all to worry
about.  Sending hugest hugs!!!

Littlekat
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Okay, here's another update.  The surgery center at Kaiser called me a
while ago, and scheduled an appointment for September 7.  They wanted to
make sure it was after my mamogram on the 3rd.  Since they're not rushing
to get me in, I'm taking this as yet another sign that there's nothing to
worry about.

Will continue to keep you posted.

Peggy



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Date:         Wed, 25 Aug 2004 00:44:39 -0400
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Sending prayers that he gets that job!  I know how stressful it is to be
looking because I am going through something similar.  I do have a job but
must get a better one!  And it is even harder when you are first starting
out.  Hugs and prayers!

Littlekat
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Hey Guys,
Matt has a job interview Friday at a restaurant called Arnies.   He'd
really like to get this job because it's less than a mile from campus and
the people there are really great.  He put on his application that he was
willing to do anything but cook.  Well, he's willing to learn, but that's
about as far as it goes.    He's still looking in the mean time, but this
is the first bite.  I'd be glad to have this job search over.  He moves
into his dorm this weekend so the time is really running out for him to
land something before classes start.
Kathy

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Date:         Wed, 25 Aug 2004 00:49:54 -0400
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Oh, Pat!  How awful about your mother and you!  I'm praying hard about that.
Also about that dear sweet oady with cancer.  I hate that we have to go
through such awful things sometimes!!!

And oh how lucky you are to have met Brad and Brenda.  I wanna meet
everyone, too!!!

Hugs all around!
Littlekat
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Dear Loving EChurch Family,

First of all, I want you all to know that I'm praying for all your prayer
requests, no matter what they are.

I'm Praising God that on Saturday night, we had the neatest surprise! our
door bell rang, I went to answer the door, and I said "Who is it?" The next
thing I heard was: "It's Brad Duns from EChurch." I was so surprised! I
opened the door and let them in, and I gave them both a big squeeze! Yes,
it was the Loving Brad and Brenda Duns! I was so surprised, and so very
happy to see them! We had a wonderful visit with them and I took some
pictures of them, and Vernon took one of the 3 of us.

Brad is just as we all know him! You know he's funny and sweet and loving!
Yes, Brenda is a real sweetheart! I love her a bunch! Next time they will
stay with us!

Vernon likes them a lot, too! I'm Praising God they came to see us!

Now for my few prayer requests.

Please pray for Vernon's Sister-in-law's, Aunt Mary. She has cancer of the
colon and it has spread to her liver and other places. They didn't get it
all during the surgery, but they did remove her intestine and they told her
she would have 2 years of quality life. Only God knows, and I pray for a
complete healing for this loving lady. She is 86 years old. So far, she's
doing great, and eating everything. Please pray that if she has chemo and
radiation, that she will do okay with that, and have no problems. Please
pray that she can stay in the same house that Vernon stayed in, so she'll
be close to the hospital for her treatments in Mitchell. Betty, Dean's wife
and the rest of Betty's family are very close to her. They have been taking
her back and forth to the doctor.

My next prayer request is about my Mom's and my relationship. Actually, it
could include most of my family.

You all know, unfortunately what rejection is like. I feel as though I've
been rejected by my Mom and she'll see to it that everyone in my family is
on her side. I'm very hurt about what I'm about to tell you.

I called her Saturday night, before Brad and Brenda came, and I said the
usual "Hi! Loving!" She said hi and then she said. "You know what Pat! I'm
really getting tired of this loving stuff. Every Other word is 'loving'." I
told her that's not true. I couldn't believe what I was hearing from her.
She wasn't drinking, either. She said it in a really crabby voice which is
so much like her when she's not drinking.

I lashed out, and I told her that Harvey and Joe don't mind it, but
Sherilyn, Birdie and her don't like it. I also told her that all my friends
love me for who I am and that they love me unconditionally. I told her my
friends love me more than my entire family loves me. Of course, she denied
it. I started crying and I was really upset.

We continued to talk about other things, but I was upset and didn't want to
talk to her any more. I ended the conversation and told her that I loved
her and hung up.

I called her on Sunday afternoon and left a message on her answering
machine and I apologized for the things I said. I've not heard from her at
all. In other words, she has not acknowledged my apology at all.

I'm not going to call her for a long time.

I did ask for God's forgiveness for what I said to her. I should have
worded it different.

I'm so tired of rejection from my family. I actually thought things were
getting better, but it's obvious that they only put up with me because they
feel they have to. I do all the calling, and they never call me very often.
I doubt they will even call me on my birthday.

Please pray that I can deal with this rejection and that she doesn't turn
the whole family against me. I think she'll probably do that.

Thanks much for your prayers and for listening. All your advice is
appreciated. I could write a book about this stuff, but I don't think you
want to hear it.

I love you all so very much. Thanks for always putting up with me and for
being my friends.

Love and Blessings,
Pat Ferguson
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Date:         Tue, 24 Aug 2004 22:42:51 -0700
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Praise God!  I just love stories like yours!  And it really does give one
goose bumps when you realize all the different classes you each could have
been in, or you could have left before the instructor talked to the lady
about her cornea transplant, etc.  God truly is amazing.  But I still can't
help wondering why Disability Services didn't take the book for other
students (like you) to use.  Oh well, God took care of the situation.

Peggy

At 10:30 PM 8/24/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>Here's the long and short of how God worked in this class situation.  Keep
>in mind that there are lots of econ classes with other instructors.  This
>instructor has several sections of the class.  I had almost decided that
>since the textbook was not available anywhere that I'd go to this first
>class and then probably drop.  Sure I could scan the book, but lots of
>graphs and geometry and algebra.  Considering that I am math challenged,
>sounded like the best solution to me after having had a day that was a
>Monday on a Tuesday; if you know what I mean.  So I showed up in class, as
>did the whole room full of other would-be students.  During the class, the
>instructor made reference to this woman in his class as a student this
>Semester, having been in his class last Semester.  At the end of class, I
>heard him ask her when her other kornea transplant was scheduled.  Naturally
>my ears became antenna-like.  More information forth coming was that she was
>now fully able to read print.  So that was miracle one.  Miracle two is that
>disability services office who specifically told me that this book was not
>in their catalog had actually recorded it for her and when she tried to
>return it to them, they refused to accept it back.  Therefore, she still had
>it in her possession.  So she will bring the tape recordeded text book to me
>next class.  Miracle 3 is that we could have been in the same class at all.
>There are lots of Macro Econ classes.  This instructor teaches 6 or 7
>sections alone.  Then there are all those taught by other instructors.
>
>Thanks for praying.  Best of all, God gets all the glory.  What a
>prayer-answering God we serve.  I have no objection if you pray me through
>the rest of the class.  Grin.
>
>Vicki

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Date:         Tue, 24 Aug 2004 23:55:51 -0600
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Wondered that too, Peggy.  But, wow!  God is truly awesome in his ways and
his deeds.

Vicki

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> Praise God!  I just love stories like yours!  And it really does give one
> goose bumps when you realize all the different classes you each could have
> been in, or you could have left before the instructor talked to the lady
> about her cornea transplant, etc.  God truly is amazing.  But I still
can't
> help wondering why Disability Services didn't take the book for other
> students (like you) to use.  Oh well, God took care of the situation.
>
> Peggy
>
> At 10:30 PM 8/24/2004 -0600, you wrote:
> >Here's the long and short of how God worked in this class situation.
Keep
> >in mind that there are lots of econ classes with other instructors.  This
> >instructor has several sections of the class.  I had almost decided that
> >since the textbook was not available anywhere that I'd go to this first
> >class and then probably drop.  Sure I could scan the book, but lots of
> >graphs and geometry and algebra.  Considering that I am math challenged,
> >sounded like the best solution to me after having had a day that was a
> >Monday on a Tuesday; if you know what I mean.  So I showed up in class,
as
> >did the whole room full of other would-be students.  During the class,
the
> >instructor made reference to this woman in his class as a student this
> >Semester, having been in his class last Semester.  At the end of class, I
> >heard him ask her when her other kornea transplant was scheduled.
Naturally
> >my ears became antenna-like.  More information forth coming was that she
was
> >now fully able to read print.  So that was miracle one.  Miracle two is
that
> >disability services office who specifically told me that this book was
not
> >in their catalog had actually recorded it for her and when she tried to
> >return it to them, they refused to accept it back.  Therefore, she still
had
> >it in her possession.  So she will bring the tape recordeded text book to
me
> >next class.  Miracle 3 is that we could have been in the same class at
all.
> >There are lots of Macro Econ classes.  This instructor teaches 6 or 7
> >sections alone.  Then there are all those taught by other instructors.
> >
> >Thanks for praying.  Best of all, God gets all the glory.  What a
> >prayer-answering God we serve.  I have no objection if you pray me
through
> >the rest of the class.  Grin.
> >
> >Vicki
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I'll pray for her when praying ffor Vicki and classes, Julie.

Please say "Hi" to her from me!  <SMILE>


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  Hi,

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Vickie,
What a God we serve!  It is wonderful!  Isn't it something how we pray and
ask God to do something in our lives and then when He does it, we are
surprised!  Truly, God worked this out and I believe it was before we even
asked.  Praise Him and we will pray you through this simester.

Ned
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Kathy,
I am praying and trusting that Matt will have this job.  I prayed especially
for him this morning in my time with the Lord.  I believe that this is the
one the Lord wants him to have because, not only does it provide him the
work and income that is so necessary, but it is meeting his need of a job
close to the college.  It is his!

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Pat,
I am praying for you too. It is awful to feel rejected by those whoare
closest to you and those you love.  May God grant you peace and confidence
that He will work to His glory in this situation.  Also praying for the
lady, Aunt Mary, with cancer.

Ned
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Hi Peggy,

Just stay in peace!


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Subject: Another update


Okay, here's another update.  The surgery center at Kaiser called me a
while ago, and scheduled an appointment for September 7.  They wanted to
make sure it was after my mamogram on the 3rd.  Since they're not
rushing to get me in, I'm taking this as yet another sign that there's
nothing to worry about.

Will continue to keep you posted.

Peggy



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Dear sister Pat,

You need to give those hurts all over to Jesus so that He can heal you.
You may need to pray with someone to help you to do this.  You just ask
Him!

Meantime, hugs, love and prayers coming your way!


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Subject: hurting things was Re: Back again


Dear Helen, and Everyone,

Oh Loving Helen, you are so sweet! Your words are from your heart, and
from Jesus. They comfort me.

You guys, do you know my Mother put me in a Baby home for 5 years
because she couldn't deal with me with my blindness. I stayed with all
kinds of people when I was little before I was five when they brought me
home that summer before I was taken to the Oregon State School for the
Blind. I never felt a part of my family and I really still don't. It
hurts me.

When she said those horrible things to me on Saturday night, I wanted to
tell her that I would quit calling people Loving, if she would quit
smoking and drinking, but I did not say that to her.

My love is from The Lord, and I'll never stop telling people they are
loving. I'll never stop calling people loving, either. If I do that, I
will be disobeying Jesus. It's because Jesus that this love exists, not
because of me. I'm not capable of loving that much, but through Our
Lord, Jesus Christ, we can do all things. I love to love people as God
wants me to. I won't let anyone take that love away from me.

I learned how to love when I was at the School for the Blind. We were
loved a whole lot. Yes, we were punished when we did wrong, but just ask
Cecily and Paulette, we were also loved, and we were squeezed.

So, guys, I'm sending this with all the love in my heart and you are all
Loving! Because God made you that way.

Am I crazy? Probably yes. I'm crazy for Jesus, and I don't care what
anyone thinks.

Love and Blessings,
Pat Ferguson

At 12:20 PM 8/24/04, you wrote:
>Thank you, dear loving Pat,
>
>With so many praying for me, and upholding me to the Father, the
>complete healing of my spirit will surely come quickly.  God is so
>good!  And I pray the same for you, that your wounded spirit will heal
>quickly as well.  This scripture always ministers to me:
>
>Pr 18:14  The spirit of a man will sustain his infirmity; but a wounded

>spirit who can bear?
>
>This tells me that when our spirits are wounded, if they are not healed

>quickly, it hinders us from being healed of our physical infirmities.
>
>In Him, and with my love,
>Helen
>
>
>
>Earlier, Pat Ferguson wrote:
> >Dear loving Helen,
> >
> >I write this message to you with tears in my eyes.
> >
> >I'm praying for you Loving One. I'm praying that God will give you a
> >healing, and that you will be comforted in His love and Grace.
> >
> >I know what it is like to have your spirit woonded. I've been deeply
> >hurt lately by my Mother, and I'll share that with you all in another

> >message.
> >
> >Helen, if you ever want to talk, I can call you any time.
> >
> >You are such a sweet blessing to all of us, and we love you more than

> >you will ever know.
> >
> >I just wish I could squeeze everyone with a broken heart and let them

> >know they are loving, despite what my Mother said to me which hurt me

> >deeply.
> >
> >Many lovings and squeezings for you, Helen, and Praying for God's
> >comfort and peace and complete healing for your broken spirit.
> >
> >Love and Blessings,
> >Pat Ferguson
> >

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Hmmm!

Sounds interesting.  I'll be praying for Matt.

What's he doing at the moment then?  Tell him I'm back and love him too!


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Hey Guys,
Matt has a job interview Friday at a restaurant called Arnies.   He'd
really like to get this job because it's less than a mile from campus
and the people there are really great.  He put on his application that
he was willing to do anything but cook.  Well, he's willing to learn,
but that's
about as far as it goes.    He's still looking in the mean time, but
this
is the first bite.  I'd be glad to have this job search over.  He moves
into his dorm this weekend so the time is really running out for him to
land something before classes start. Kathy

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Dear sister Pat,

It sounds to me as though Brad and Brenda arrived just at the right time
- hey and from a distance too!

I've written in another post about your hurts.  Pat, I truly know what
that rejection was like (ask Phil) but I know too what it's like on the
other side - jumping, leaping and praising God and all that!  Many of
these things we just have to hand over to God because He gives us grace
to do it.  Other things He just takes Himself.  Whatever He does, He
then pours in the oil and wine!  He then loves us and loves us until we
know His healing!  Well, that's how it works for me anyway.  (Oh, BTW:
There is more healing waiting for me too!)

In Him:


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Subject: Some prayer requests and we met Brad and Brenda


Dear Loving EChurch Family,

First of all, I want you all to know that I'm praying for all your
prayer requests, no matter what they are.

I'm Praising God that on Saturday night, we had the neatest surprise!
our door bell rang, I went to answer the door, and I said "Who is it?"
The next thing I heard was: "It's Brad Duns from EChurch." I was so
surprised! I opened the door and let them in, and I gave them both a big
squeeze! Yes, it was the Loving Brad and Brenda Duns! I was so
surprised, and so very happy to see them! We had a wonderful visit with
them and I took some pictures of them, and Vernon took one of the 3 of
us.

Brad is just as we all know him! You know he's funny and sweet and
loving! Yes, Brenda is a real sweetheart! I love her a bunch! Next time
they will stay with us!

Vernon likes them a lot, too! I'm Praising God they came to see us!

Now for my few prayer requests.

Please pray for Vernon's Sister-in-law's, Aunt Mary. She has cancer of
the colon and it has spread to her liver and other places. They didn't
get it all during the surgery, but they did remove her intestine and
they told her she would have 2 years of quality life. Only God knows,
and I pray for a complete healing for this loving lady. She is 86 years
old. So far, she's doing great, and eating everything. Please pray that
if she has chemo and radiation, that she will do okay with that, and
have no problems. Please pray that she can stay in the same house that
Vernon stayed in, so she'll be close to the hospital for her treatments
in Mitchell. Betty, Dean's wife and the rest of Betty's family are very
close to her. They have been taking her back and forth to the doctor.

My next prayer request is about my Mom's and my relationship. Actually,
it could include most of my family.

You all know, unfortunately what rejection is like. I feel as though
I've been rejected by my Mom and she'll see to it that everyone in my
family is on her side. I'm very hurt about what I'm about to tell you.

I called her Saturday night, before Brad and Brenda came, and I said the
usual "Hi! Loving!" She said hi and then she said. "You know what Pat!
I'm really getting tired of this loving stuff. Every Other word is
'loving'." I told her that's not true. I couldn't believe what I was
hearing from her. She wasn't drinking, either. She said it in a really
crabby voice which is so much like her when she's not drinking.

I lashed out, and I told her that Harvey and Joe don't mind it, but
Sherilyn, Birdie and her don't like it. I also told her that all my
friends love me for who I am and that they love me unconditionally. I
told her my friends love me more than my entire family loves me. Of
course, she denied it. I started crying and I was really upset.

We continued to talk about other things, but I was upset and didn't want
to talk to her any more. I ended the conversation and told her that I
loved her and hung up.

I called her on Sunday afternoon and left a message on her answering
machine and I apologized for the things I said. I've not heard from her
at all. In other words, she has not acknowledged my apology at all.

I'm not going to call her for a long time.

I did ask for God's forgiveness for what I said to her. I should have
worded it different.

I'm so tired of rejection from my family. I actually thought things were
getting better, but it's obvious that they only put up with me because
they feel they have to. I do all the calling, and they never call me
very often. I doubt they will even call me on my birthday.

Please pray that I can deal with this rejection and that she doesn't
turn the whole family against me. I think she'll probably do that.

Thanks much for your prayers and for listening. All your advice is
appreciated. I could write a book about this stuff, but I don't think
you want to hear it.

I love you all so very much. Thanks for always putting up with me and
for being my friends.

Love and Blessings,
Pat Ferguson

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I believe in miracles!

Wow, Vicki, it was worth the headache!

Of course, I didn't suffer it, but you know what I mean!


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Here's the long and short of how God worked in this class situation.
Keep in mind that there are lots of econ classes with other instructors.
This instructor has several sections of the class.  I had almost decided
that since the textbook was not available anywhere that I'd go to this
first class and then probably drop.  Sure I could scan the book, but
lots of graphs and geometry and algebra.  Considering that I am math
challenged, sounded like the best solution to me after having had a day
that was a Monday on a Tuesday; if you know what I mean.  So I showed up
in class, as did the whole room full of other would-be students.  During
the class, the instructor made reference to this woman in his class as a
student this Semester, having been in his class last Semester.  At the
end of class, I heard him ask her when her other kornea transplant was
scheduled.  Naturally my ears became antenna-like.  More information
forth coming was that she was now fully able to read print.  So that was
miracle one.  Miracle two is that disability services office who
specifically told me that this book was not in their catalog had
actually recorded it for her and when she tried to return it to them,
they refused to accept it back.  Therefore, she still had it in her
possession.  So she will bring the tape recordeded text book to me next
class.  Miracle 3 is that we could have been in the same class at all.
There are lots of Macro Econ classes.  This instructor teaches 6 or 7
sections alone.  Then there are all those taught by other instructors.

Thanks for praying.  Best of all, God gets all the glory.  What a
prayer-answering God we serve.  I have no objection if you pray me
through the rest of the class.  Grin.

Vicki

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Dear Pat,

Perhaps the Lord would have you just let go of your Mom and the family
members who reject you and your loving ways.  I learned just recently that
one cannot bring about a change in the heart attitude of a loved one, even
by loving them.  Only God can make the change in them that you think you
want to see.  I know this may seem like hard counsel, but because you
belong to Jesus, He will supply you with what you may need in order to back
off from the situations which hurt you so much.  I pray you will allow Him
to enable you, and to remove the pain you are suffering.

In His Love,
Helen

Earlier, Pat Ferguson wrote:
>Dear Helen, and Everyone,
>
>Oh Loving Helen, you are so sweet! Your words are from your heart, and from
>Jesus. They comfort me.
>
>You guys, do you know my Mother put me in a Baby home for 5 years because
>she couldn't deal with me with my blindness. I stayed with all kinds of
>people when I was little before I was five when they brought me home that
>summer before I was taken to the Oregon State School for the Blind. I never
>felt a part of my family and I really still don't. It hurts me.
>
>When she said those horrible things to me on Saturday night, I wanted to
>tell her that I would quit calling people Loving, if she would quit smoking
>and drinking, but I did not say that to her.
>
>My love is from The Lord, and I'll never stop telling people they are
>loving. I'll never stop calling people loving, either. If I do that, I will
>be disobeying Jesus. It's because Jesus that this love exists, not because
>of me. I'm not capable of loving that much, but through Our Lord, Jesus
>Christ, we can do all things. I love to love people as God wants me to. I
>won't let anyone take that love away from me.
>
>I learned how to love when I was at the School for the Blind. We were loved
>a whole lot. Yes, we were punished when we did wrong, but just ask Cecily
>and Paulette, we were also loved, and we were squeezed.
>
>So, guys, I'm sending this with all the love in my heart and you are all
>Loving! Because God made you that way.
>
>Am I crazy? Probably yes. I'm crazy for Jesus, and I don't care what anyone
>thinks.
>
>Love and Blessings,
>Pat Ferguson
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Vicki!  After all the years of knowing the Lord, I still stand in awe at
His goodness and care for us.  I rejoice with you that He has answered our
prayers for the book you need.

Loving you, because of Him,
Helen

Earlier, Vicki and The Rors wrote:
>Here's the long and short of how God worked in this class situation.  Keep
>in mind that there are lots of econ classes with other instructors.  This
>instructor has several sections of the class.  I had almost decided that
>since the textbook was not available anywhere that I'd go to this first
>class and then probably drop.  Sure I could scan the book, but lots of
>graphs and geometry and algebra.  Considering that I am math challenged,
>sounded like the best solution to me after having had a day that was a
>Monday on a Tuesday; if you know what I mean.  So I showed up in class, as
>did the whole room full of other would-be students.  During the class, the
>instructor made reference to this woman in his class as a student this
>Semester, having been in his class last Semester.  At the end of class, I
>heard him ask her when her other kornea transplant was scheduled.  Naturally
>my ears became antenna-like.  More information forth coming was that she was
>now fully able to read print.  So that was miracle one.  Miracle two is that
>disability services office who specifically told me that this book was not
>in their catalog had actually recorded it for her and when she tried to
>return it to them, they refused to accept it back.  Therefore, she still had
>it in her possession.  So she will bring the tape recordeded text book to me
>next class.  Miracle 3 is that we could have been in the same class at all.
>There are lots of Macro Econ classes.  This instructor teaches 6 or 7
>sections alone.  Then there are all those taught by other instructors.
>
>Thanks for praying.  Best of all, God gets all the glory.  What a
>prayer-answering God we serve.  I have no objection if you pray me through
>the rest of the class.  Grin.
>
>Vicki
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Peggy,
If Karen is going to start telling stories, I'm the one who should be
running for cover, not you!  GRIN!
Kathy

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Vicki, all I can say is, "wow, wow and tripple wow!"  Go God!  Kathy

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Well, If disability services had taken the book and just given it to
Vicki, Vicki may have never met this other woman.  Maybe the Lord is
planning on Vicki and this other woman developing some sort of a
friendship, or relationship that can be used for His glory.  Who knows!
Kathy

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Our God, is an awesome God, he reigns from heaven above with wisdom, power
and love, our God is an awesome God. That's what came to mind. Great
testimony of god working in your life.

Brad
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If you have a mind to, my wife Brenda could use a bit of prayer. She
slipped and pulled a hamstring muscle pretty good yesterday. She'll be out
for a week and then we'll see how she is doing.

Brad
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Brad,

I've asked the Lord to mend it well and quickly.

Blessings:


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If you have a mind to, my wife Brenda could use a bit of prayer. She
slipped and pulled a hamstring muscle pretty good yesterday. She'll be
out for a week and then we'll see how she is doing.

Brad

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Pat,

It sure was good to visit. Was like we lived across the street and popped
in for a visit. Regarding your mom and comments. I'm very familiar with how
drink can change people, even when they are not immediately under the
influence. They have a way of manipulating people around them to
accommodate their irrational behavior and thinking caused by the addiction.
That and the fact you put Christ before things in your life probably
doesn't sit well with her either by conviction through her recognition of
that lack in her own belief, or out of her true disbelief and then
irritation of your need to rely on Christ. It can be difficult to have
people say "unloving" things, and all one can do is to change how we see
such things. As Helen said, we cannot change other people. But we can
change, with Christ, our view on such  occurrences. One way is to perhaps
look at your residual need for her approval and love from your childhood
rejection you felt. Squaring this up with Christ's help will cause those
fiery darts of words and hurt to roll off with less impact. They may still
hit you but they will not puncture your heart but rather shielded . Part of
that is done through God's wisdom and insight on what is really causing the
darts to be thrown in the first place. More than likely it is a
malnutritioned self-esteem on mom's part, or her feeling poorly as to not
knowing how to care for a blind child and now feeling guilty after seeing
you turned out just fine, and perhaps your lovings, remind her that she
failed in some way?  As well, remember Christ said he didn't come to join
people up, but rather separate them. Of course not as a destructive intent
but rather to gather them up to himself, and separate them from the world,
and by default there will be those who choose to stay in the world and
therefore are separated, which is what Jesus was referring to.  Seeing the
situation for what it really is instead of taking it personally as if you
have done something wrong, as well continuing to pray for your mom seems to
be a biblical and godly response to at least start with. First stop the
arrows from penetrating your heart by putting up God's shield, and then go
after the source of the darts through prayer and witness.

Brad



Pat Ferguson wrote:
>Dear Loving EChurch Family,
>
>First of all, I want you all to know that I'm praying for all your prayer
>requests, no matter what they are.
>
>I'm Praising God that on Saturday night, we had the neatest surprise! our
>door bell rang, I went to answer the door, and I said "Who is it?" The next
>thing I heard was: "It's Brad Duns from EChurch." I was so surprised! I
>opened the door and let them in, and I gave them both a big squeeze! Yes,
>it was the Loving Brad and Brenda Duns! I was so surprised, and so very
>happy to see them! We had a wonderful visit with them and I took some
>pictures of them, and Vernon took one of the 3 of us.
>
>Brad is just as we all know him! You know he's funny and sweet and loving!
>Yes, Brenda is a real sweetheart! I love her a bunch! Next time they will
>stay with us!
>
>Vernon likes them a lot, too! I'm Praising God they came to see us!
>
>Now for my few prayer requests.
>
>Please pray for Vernon's Sister-in-law's, Aunt Mary. She has cancer of the
>colon and it has spread to her liver and other places. They didn't get it
>all during the surgery, but they did remove her intestine and they told her
>she would have 2 years of quality life. Only God knows, and I pray for a
>complete healing for this loving lady. She is 86 years old. So far, she's
>doing great, and eating everything. Please pray that if she has chemo and
>radiation, that she will do okay with that, and have no problems. Please
>pray that she can stay in the same house that Vernon stayed in, so she'll
>be close to the hospital for her treatments in Mitchell. Betty, Dean's wife
>and the rest of Betty's family are very close to her. They have been taking
>her back and forth to the doctor.
>
>My next prayer request is about my Mom's and my relationship. Actually, it
>could include most of my family.
>
>You all know, unfortunately what rejection is like. I feel as though I've
>been rejected by my Mom and she'll see to it that everyone in my family is
>on her side. I'm very hurt about what I'm about to tell you.
>
>I called her Saturday night, before Brad and Brenda came, and I said the
>usual "Hi! Loving!" She said hi and then she said. "You know what Pat! I'm
>really getting tired of this loving stuff. Every Other word is 'loving'." I
>told her that's not true. I couldn't believe what I was hearing from her.
>She wasn't drinking, either. She said it in a really crabby voice which is
>so much like her when she's not drinking.
>
>I lashed out, and I told her that Harvey and Joe don't mind it, but
>Sherilyn, Birdie and her don't like it. I also told her that all my friends
>love me for who I am and that they love me unconditionally. I told her my
>friends love me more than my entire family loves me. Of course, she denied
>it. I started crying and I was really upset.
>
>We continued to talk about other things, but I was upset and didn't want to
>talk to her any more. I ended the conversation and told her that I loved
>her and hung up.
>
>I called her on Sunday afternoon and left a message on her answering
>machine and I apologized for the things I said. I've not heard from her at
>all. In other words, she has not acknowledged my apology at all.
>
>I'm not going to call her for a long time.
>
>I did ask for God's forgiveness for what I said to her. I should have
>worded it different.
>
>I'm so tired of rejection from my family. I actually thought things were
>getting better, but it's obvious that they only put up with me because they
>feel they have to. I do all the calling, and they never call me very often.
>I doubt they will even call me on my birthday.
>
>Please pray that I can deal with this rejection and that she doesn't turn
>the whole family against me. I think she'll probably do that.
>
>Thanks much for your prayers and for listening. All your advice is
>appreciated. I could write a book about this stuff, but I don't think you
>want to hear it.
>
>I love you all so very much. Thanks for always putting up with me and for
>being my friends.
>
>Love and Blessings,
>Pat Ferguson

Brad

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As Brenda reaches out in faith, touching the Hem of Jesus' Garment, that
injury will be healed as His healing virtue flows from Jesus to Brenda.

In Him,
Helen

Earlier, Brad Dunse wrote:
>If you have a mind to, my wife Brenda could use a bit of prayer. She
>slipped and pulled a hamstring muscle pretty good yesterday. She'll be out
>for a week and then we'll see how she is doing.
>
>Brad
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Brad,

I'm praying for Brenda that she is healed very soon and in no more pain.
I'm praying for you, also.

What will she do about the Day Care?

I pray that someone can help her take care of the children until she is
able to work again.

Many prayers and lovings and squeezings for her and for you.

Love and Blessings,
Pat Ferguson

At 07:39 AM 8/25/04, you wrote:
>If you have a mind to, my wife Brenda could use a bit of prayer. She
>slipped and pulled a hamstring muscle pretty good yesterday. She'll be out
>for a week and then we'll see how she is doing.
>
>Brad
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Dear Helen and Everyone,

Yes, you are right. I guess my plans for going to Oregon next year will
change slightly. I will not be staying with my Mom for the majority of my
time in Portland, unless things take a drastic turn for the better. I have
lots of loving friends in Portland and Salem that I can stay with.

I've had to do this before, and I made it just fine, so I will with-drawl
myself from my family for now. I will continue to pray for all of them.
They are not Christians and they are not saved. Maybe God is telling me to
concentrate on Vernon's salvation.

I told Vernon this morning how loving and supportative you all have been to
me, and he thought that was great. I'm not down or depressed about it, but
I feel sad for my family, because they do not know what love they are
missing from Jesus.

I want to thank you all so very much for the love and prayers and loving
support you all have shown me. I love you all a whole bunch, and want to
squeeze you all. lol.

Many lovings and squeezings for you all.

Thanks much for always being there for me.

Love and Blessings,
Pat Ferguson
At 06:16 AM 8/25/04, you wrote:
>Dear Pat,
>
>Perhaps the Lord would have you just let go of your Mom and the family
>members who reject you and your loving ways.  I learned just recently that
>one cannot bring about a change in the heart attitude of a loved one, even
>by loving them.  Only God can make the change in them that you think you
>want to see.  I know this may seem like hard counsel, but because you
>belong to Jesus, He will supply you with what you may need in order to back
>off from the situations which hurt you so much.  I pray you will allow Him
>to enable you, and to remove the pain you are suffering.
>
>In His Love,
>Helen
>
>Earlier, Pat Ferguson wrote:
> >Dear Helen, and Everyone,
> >
> >Oh Loving Helen, you are so sweet! Your words are from your heart, and from
> >Jesus. They comfort me.
> >
> >You guys, do you know my Mother put me in a Baby home for 5 years because
> >she couldn't deal with me with my blindness. I stayed with all kinds of
> >people when I was little before I was five when they brought me home that
> >summer before I was taken to the Oregon State School for the Blind. I never
> >felt a part of my family and I really still don't. It hurts me.
> >
> >When she said those horrible things to me on Saturday night, I wanted to
> >tell her that I would quit calling people Loving, if she would quit smoking
> >and drinking, but I did not say that to her.
> >
> >My love is from The Lord, and I'll never stop telling people they are
> >loving. I'll never stop calling people loving, either. If I do that, I will
> >be disobeying Jesus. It's because Jesus that this love exists, not because
> >of me. I'm not capable of loving that much, but through Our Lord, Jesus
> >Christ, we can do all things. I love to love people as God wants me to. I
> >won't let anyone take that love away from me.
> >
> >I learned how to love when I was at the School for the Blind. We were loved
> >a whole lot. Yes, we were punished when we did wrong, but just ask Cecily
> >and Paulette, we were also loved, and we were squeezed.
> >
> >So, guys, I'm sending this with all the love in my heart and you are all
> >Loving! Because God made you that way.
> >
> >Am I crazy? Probably yes. I'm crazy for Jesus, and I don't care what anyone
> >thinks.
> >
> >Love and Blessings,
> >Pat Ferguson
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Vicki,

Praise The Lord! That's wonderful! Of course I'll pray with you through all
your schooling. I'll be sending those lovings and squeezings for you every day.

"What a Mighty God we serve."
Love and Blessings,
Pat Ferguson


At 11:30 PM 8/24/04, you wrote:
>Here's the long and short of how God worked in this class situation.  Keep
>in mind that there are lots of econ classes with other instructors.  This
>instructor has several sections of the class.  I had almost decided that
>since the textbook was not available anywhere that I'd go to this first
>class and then probably drop.  Sure I could scan the book, but lots of
>graphs and geometry and algebra.  Considering that I am math challenged,
>sounded like the best solution to me after having had a day that was a
>Monday on a Tuesday; if you know what I mean.  So I showed up in class, as
>did the whole room full of other would-be students.  During the class, the
>instructor made reference to this woman in his class as a student this
>Semester, having been in his class last Semester.  At the end of class, I
>heard him ask her when her other kornea transplant was scheduled.  Naturally
>my ears became antenna-like.  More information forth coming was that she was
>now fully able to read print.  So that was miracle one.  Miracle two is that
>disability services office who specifically told me that this book was not
>in their catalog had actually recorded it for her and when she tried to
>return it to them, they refused to accept it back.  Therefore, she still had
>it in her possession.  So she will bring the tape recordeded text book to me
>next class.  Miracle 3 is that we could have been in the same class at all.
>There are lots of Macro Econ classes.  This instructor teaches 6 or 7
>sections alone.  Then there are all those taught by other instructors.
>
>Thanks for praying.  Best of all, God gets all the glory.  What a
>prayer-answering God we serve.  I have no objection if you pray me through
>the rest of the class.  Grin.
>
>Vicki
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Well Peg, I use to have a drinking problem.  And unfortunately Kathy probably has more bad stories to tell about me.  I would have to think  real hard to think of any about Kathy.  She was one of the good students.


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> Karen, are you trying to tell us you're a wild and crazy party
> girl? Just kidding. If you know that one beer leads to another
> and another and another, you're wise to choose coke.
>
> BTW, welcome to the list. Do you have any Kathy stories to tell us from
> school days?
>
> Peggy > mischievous>
>
> At 02:58 AM 8/25/2004 +0000, you wrote:
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> >Well one beer for me would lead to anothe and anothe and another and well
> >you get the picture. I stick to Coca-cola.
> >
> >
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> >
> >Karen Carter 74'
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> >
> >-------------- Original message --------------
> >
> > > Kathy and Karen and everyone,
> > >
> > > There's nothing wrong with a beer, but only after they are done working.
> > >
> > >
> > > Love,
> > > Pat Ferguson
> > >
> > > At 01:54 PM 8/24/04, you wrote:
> > > >Well, so far, when we clean up in the evening, after they've gone, we've
> > > >only found soft drink bottles and some gaderade bottles. I did hear one
> > > >of the guys who was working on the foundation lament for a beer, but it
> > > >was very hot and tiring work and he didn't get his wish anyway.
> > > >Kathy
> > > >
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> >Well one beer for me would lead to anothe and anothe and another and well
> >you get the picture. I stick to Coca-cola.
> >
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> >
> >Karen Carter 74'
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> >-------------- Original message --------------
> >
> > > Kathy and Karen and everyone,
> > >
> > > There's nothing wrong with a beer, but only after they are done working.
> > >
> > >
> > > Love,
> > > Pat Ferguson
> > >
> > > At 01:54 PM 8/24/04, you wrote:
> > > >Well, so far, when we clean up in the evening, after they've gone, we've
> > > >only found soft drink bottles and some gaderade bottles. I did hear one
> > > >of the guys who was working on the foundation lament for a beer, but it
> > > >was very hot and tiring work and he didn't get his wish anyway.
> > > >Kathy
> > > >
> > > >________________________________________________________________
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Yes, Or God moves in mysterious ways.  In his wonderful wisdom.


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> Well, If disability services had taken the book and just given it to
> Vicki, Vicki may have never met this other woman. Maybe the Lord is
> planning on Vicki and this other woman developing some sort of a
> friendship, or relationship that can be used for His glory. Who knows!
> Kathy
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I pray that the Lord heals speedly.


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> slipped and pulled a hamstring muscle pretty good yesterday. She'll be out
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>
> Brad
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I received my equipment today and a very nice lady delivered it and
explained every detail.  So, tonight will be my first night sleeping with
the equipment.  Fortunately, this unit is brand new and is much quieter than
the hospital's machine.  Additionally, this one has a water vapor chamber,
which makes the air breathed during the night, moist instead of dry.
Fortunately, my insurance is paying for the whole thing which apparently
costs about 1500 dollars, if not more, so thus far, we have not had to pay
for either of the sleep studies nor the equipment.  Part of what I had to be
taught today was how to clean everything, too.  So that meant I had to learn
how to take everything apart and put it all back together.  The machine has
been preprogrammed for me to begin at a lower pressure level and build to a
full strength level of pressure in 45 minutes.  At which time, I will
hopefully be sound a sleep and be dreaming peaceful exotic dreams.  You
know, exotic as in Africa or the Caribbean or the south Pacific islands?  At
least I think that's what I mean.  However, if I do have any other unusual
dreams, as I did while in the hospital which I have already described, I
will be certain to file my nocturnal report here since I know everyone will
be very interested in whatever I have for a dream.  I guess, if it comes
right down to it, my wife can go no mail for a day or two, until such
reporting has subsided.

Phil.
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Praise God, Karen!  You wrote
"I used to have a drinking problem".

It makes me very sad when I see people on these 12 step programmes refer
to "Recovering Alcoholics".  I know what they mean, but Jesus changes us
and it is good that you were able to reflect this.  Of course, you're
doing your part and not going for the hard stuff so that you're not
tempted, and that's good;  but I'd hate to think you had to carry that
slogan around with you for the rest of your life.

(Just my two pence worth, as we'd say in the UK - and now I'm off!)

Love in Him:


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Well Peg, I use to have a drinking problem.  And unfortunately Kathy
probably has more bad stories to tell about me.  I would have to think
real hard to think of any about Kathy.  She was one of the good
students.


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Karen Carter 74'


-------------- Original message --------------

> Karen, are you trying to tell us you're a wild and crazy party girl?
> Just kidding. If you know that one beer leads to another and another
> and another, you're wise to choose coke.
>
> BTW, welcome to the list. Do you have any Kathy stories to tell us
> from school days?
>
> Peggy > mischievous>
>
> At 02:58 AM 8/25/2004 +0000, you wrote:
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> >Well one beer for me would lead to anothe and anothe and another and
> >well you get the picture. I stick to Coca-cola.
> >
> >
> >--
> >In any kind of circumstance PRAY
> >
> >Karen Carter 74'
> >
> >
> >-------------- Original message --------------
> >
> > > Kathy and Karen and everyone,
> > >
> > > There's nothing wrong with a beer, but only after they are done
> > > working.
> > >
> > >
> > > Love,
> > > Pat Ferguson
> > >
> > > At 01:54 PM 8/24/04, you wrote:
> > > >Well, so far, when we clean up in the evening, after they've
> > > >gone, we've only found soft drink bottles and some gaderade
> > > >bottles. I did hear one of the guys who was working on the
> > > >foundation lament for a beer, but it was very hot and tiring work

> > > >and he didn't get his wish anyway. Kathy
> > > >
> > > >________________________________________________________________
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> >Well one beer for me would lead to anothe and anothe and another and
> >well you get the picture. I stick to Coca-cola.
> >
> >--
> >In any kind of circumstance PRAY
> >
> >Karen Carter 74'
> >
> >-------------- Original message --------------
> >
> > > Kathy and Karen and everyone,
> > >
> > > There's nothing wrong with a beer, but only after they are done
> > > working.
> > >
> > >
> > > Love,
> > > Pat Ferguson
> > >
> > > At 01:54 PM 8/24/04, you wrote:
> > > >Well, so far, when we clean up in the evening, after they've
> > > >gone, we've only found soft drink bottles and some gaderade
> > > >bottles. I did hear one of the guys who was working on the
> > > >foundation lament for a beer, but it was very hot and tiring work

> > > >and he didn't get his wish anyway. Kathy
> > > >
> > > >________________________________________________________________
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Well Peg, I use to have a drinking problem.&nbsp; And unfortunately
Kathy probably has more bad stories to tell about me.&nbsp; I would have
to think&nbsp; real hard to think of any about Kathy.&nbsp; She was one
of the good students. <BR><BR> <DIV class=signature
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74'</DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
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-------------- <BR><BR>&gt; Karen, are you trying to tell us you're a
wild and crazy party <BR>&gt; girl? <GRIN>Just kidding. If you know that
one beer leads to another <BR>&gt; and another and another, you're wise
to choose coke. <SMILE><BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; BTW, welcome to the list. Do
you have any Kathy stories to tell us from <BR>&gt; school days? <EVIL
cover for running and grin,><BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Peggy <WHOSE <BR feel her
making is report doctor good so-far the over relief>&gt; mischievous&gt;
<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; At 02:58 AM 8/25/2004 +0000, you wrote: <BR>&gt;
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8bit <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;Well one beer for me would lead to
anothe and anothe and another and well <BR>&gt; &gt;you get the picture.
I stick to Coca-cola. <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;--
<BR>&gt; &gt;In any kind of circumstance PRAY <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt;
&gt;Karen Carter 74' <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt;
&gt;-------------- Original message -------------- <BR>&gt; &gt;
<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Kathy and Karen and everyone, <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;
<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; There's nothing wrong with a beer, but only after
they are done working. <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; <BR>&gt;
&gt; &gt; Love, <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Pat Ferguson <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;
<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; At 01:54 PM 8/24/04, you wrote: <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt;Well, so far, when we clean up in the evening, after they've gone,
we've <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;only found soft drink bottles and some
gaderade bottles. I did hear one <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;of the guys who
was working on the foundation lament for a beer, but it <BR>&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;was very hot and tiring work and he didn't get his wish anyway.
<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Kathy <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt;________________________________________________________________
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<BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;Well one beer for me would lead to anothe and
anothe and another and well <BR>&gt; &gt;you get the picture. I stick to
Coca-cola. <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;-- <BR>&gt; &gt;In any kind of
circumstance PRAY <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;Karen Carter 74' <BR>&gt;
&gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;-------------- Original message --------------
<BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Kathy and Karen and everyone, <BR>&gt;
&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; There's nothing wrong with a beer, but only
after they are done working. <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;
<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Love, <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Pat Ferguson <BR>&gt; &gt;
&gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; At 01:54 PM 8/24/04, you wrote: <BR>&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;Well, so far, when we clean up in the evening, after they've
gone, we've <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;only found soft drink bottles and
some gaderade bottles. I did hear one <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;of the guys
who was working on the foundation lament for a beer, but it <BR>&gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;was very hot and tiring work and he didn't get his wish
anyway. <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;Kathy <BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; <BR>&gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt;________________________________________________________________
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Phil,

I look forward to your followup posts on this and particularly to
learning that you're feeling better in the mornings!

Now, you have to remember two things:  1) Don't give the oxygen to the
dogs;  and 2) when you dream, remember your wife's name is Vivienne!
<SMILE>

Now, don't hit me, I'm fragile and out quick!


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Sent: 25 August 2004 20:37
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Subject: Update on sleep apnea


I received my equipment today and a very nice lady delivered it and
explained every detail.  So, tonight will be my first night sleeping
with the equipment.  Fortunately, this unit is brand new and is much
quieter than the hospital's machine.  Additionally, this one has a water
vapor chamber, which makes the air breathed during the night, moist
instead of dry. Fortunately, my insurance is paying for the whole thing
which apparently costs about 1500 dollars, if not more, so thus far, we
have not had to pay for either of the sleep studies nor the equipment.
Part of what I had to be taught today was how to clean everything, too.
So that meant I had to learn how to take everything apart and put it all
back together.  The machine has been preprogrammed for me to begin at a
lower pressure level and build to a full strength level of pressure in
45 minutes.  At which time, I will hopefully be sound a sleep and be
dreaming peaceful exotic dreams.  You know, exotic as in Africa or the
Caribbean or the south Pacific islands?  At least I think that's what I
mean.  However, if I do have any other unusual dreams, as I did while in
the hospital which I have already described, I will be certain to file
my nocturnal report here since I know everyone will be very interested
in whatever I have for a dream.  I guess, if it comes right down to it,
my wife can go no mail for a day or two, until such reporting has
subsided.

Phil.

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Thanks all for your prayers and all. Pat, the day care  folks have made
arrangements for this week so she is covered, without pay, but at least all
the parents are understanding and able to make other temp arrangements. She
is doing somewhat better even today, but still a long way to go before she
can put any weight on it or even move it without grimacing.


Brad


Pat Ferguson wrote:
>Brad,
>
>I'm praying for Brenda that she is healed very soon and in no more pain.
>I'm praying for you, also.
>
>What will she do about the Day Care?
>
>I pray that someone can help her take care of the children until she is
>able to work again.
>
>Many prayers and lovings and squeezings for her and for you.
>
>Love and Blessings,
>Pat Ferguson
>
>At 07:39 AM 8/25/04, you wrote:
> >If you have a mind to, my wife Brenda could use a bit of prayer. She
> >slipped and pulled a hamstring muscle pretty good yesterday. She'll be out
> >for a week and then we'll see how she is doing.
> >
> >Brad

Brad

   God wants spiritual fruit, not religious nuts
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Great news.  I hope it all works out.


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Karen Carter 74'


-------------- Original message --------------

> I received my equipment today and a very nice lady delivered it and
> explained every detail. So, tonight will be my first night sleeping with
> the equipment. Fortunately, this unit is brand new and is much quieter than
> the hospital's machine. Additionally, this one has a water vapor chamber,
> which makes the air breathed during the night, moist instead of dry.
> Fortunately, my insurance is paying for the whole thing which apparently
> costs about 1500 dollars, if not more, so thus far, we have not had to pay
> for either of the sleep studies nor the equipment. Part of what I had to be
> taught today was how to clean everything, too. So that meant I had to learn
> how to take everything apart and put it all back together. The machine has
> been preprogrammed for me to begin at a lower pressure level and build to a
> full strength level of pressure in 45 minutes. At which time, I will
> hopefully be sound a sleep and be dreaming peaceful exotic dreams. You
> know, exotic as in Africa or the Caribbean or the south Pacific islands? At
> least I think that's what I mean. However, if I do have any other unusual
> dreams, as I did while in the hospital which I have already described, I
> will be certain to file my nocturnal report here since I know everyone will
> be very interested in whatever I have for a dream. I guess, if it comes
> right down to it, my wife can go no mail for a day or two, until such
> reporting has subsided.
>
> Phil.
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Great news.&nbsp; I hope it all works out. <BR><BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR><BR>&gt; I received my equipment today and a very nice lady delivered it and <BR>&gt; explained every detail. So, tonight will be my first night sleeping with <BR>&gt; the equipment. Fortunately, this unit is brand new and is much quieter than <BR>&gt; the hospital's machine. Additionally, this one has a water vapor chamber, <BR>&gt; which makes the air breathed during the night, moist instead of dry. <BR>&gt; Fortunately, my insurance is paying for the whole thing which apparently <BR>&gt; costs about 1500 dollars, if not more, so thus far, we have not had to pay <BR>&gt; for either of the sleep studies nor the equipment. Part of what I had to be <BR>&gt; taught today was how to clean everything, too. So that meant I had to learn <BR>&gt; how to take everything apart and put it all back together. The machine has <BR>&gt; been preprogrammed for me to begin at a lower pressure level and build to a <BR>&gt; full strength level of pressure in 45 minutes. At which time, I will <BR>&gt; hopefully be sound a sleep and be dreaming peaceful exotic dreams. You <BR>&gt; know, exotic as in Africa or the Caribbean or the south Pacific islands? At <BR>&gt; least I think that's what I mean. However, if I do have any other unusual <BR>&gt; dreams, as I did while in the hospital which I have already described, I <BR>&gt; will be certain to file my nocturnal report here since I know everyone will <BR>&gt; be very interested in whatever I have for a dream. I guess, if it comes <BR>&gt; right down to it, my wife can go no mail for a day or two, until such <BR>&gt; reporting has subsided. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Phil. </BLOCKQUOTE></body></html>

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Better watch it Philip!!

Sandy
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I forgot to mention that my wife is always in my exotic dreams.  At least I
think I forgot to mention it.

Phil.


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> Better watch it Philip!!
>
> Sandy
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Spoken like a true scarrdie-cat. Phil, you have been married long enough to
know that such aftermath attempts are futile and only bring a brow raised
glare. I don't remember Sandy being mentioned in the stand up comedian
dream. If she was, I trust she wasn't wearing a men's sport jacket or
something.

Brad

Phil Scovell wrote:
>I forgot to mention that my wife is always in my exotic dreams.  At least I
>think I forgot to mention it.
>
>Phil.
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Sandy Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 2:26 PM
>Subject: Re: Update on sleep apnea
>
>
> > Better watch it Philip!!
> >
> > Sandy

Brad

   Some folks wear their halos much too tight
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Yea, Brad.
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> Spoken like a true scarrdie-cat. Phil, you have been married long enough
to
> know that such aftermath attempts are futile and only bring a brow raised
> glare. I don't remember Sandy being mentioned in the stand up comedian
> dream. If she was, I trust she wasn't wearing a men's sport jacket or
> something.
>
> Brad
>
> Phil Scovell wrote:
> >I forgot to mention that my wife is always in my exotic dreams.  At least
I
> >think I forgot to mention it.
> >
> >Phil.
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Sandy Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 2:26 PM
> >Subject: Re: Update on sleep apnea
> >
> >
> > > Better watch it Philip!!
> > >
> > > Sandy
>
> Brad
>
>    Some folks wear their halos much too tight
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Never mind Philip, he just has a little bit of senile dementia.

Sandy
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Phil,

I'll be praying that the sleeping goes well, and that you do get some
quality sleep. If you dream, I pray they are good dreams. lol.

Love and Blessings.
Pat Ferguson



At 02:37 PM 8/25/04, you wrote:
>I received my equipment today and a very nice lady delivered it and
>explained every detail.  So, tonight will be my first night sleeping with
>the equipment.  Fortunately, this unit is brand new and is much quieter than
>the hospital's machine.  Additionally, this one has a water vapor chamber,
>which makes the air breathed during the night, moist instead of dry.
>Fortunately, my insurance is paying for the whole thing which apparently
>costs about 1500 dollars, if not more, so thus far, we have not had to pay
>for either of the sleep studies nor the equipment.  Part of what I had to be
>taught today was how to clean everything, too.  So that meant I had to learn
>how to take everything apart and put it all back together.  The machine has
>been preprogrammed for me to begin at a lower pressure level and build to a
>full strength level of pressure in 45 minutes.  At which time, I will
>hopefully be sound a sleep and be dreaming peaceful exotic dreams.  You
>know, exotic as in Africa or the Caribbean or the south Pacific islands?  At
>least I think that's what I mean.  However, if I do have any other unusual
>dreams, as I did while in the hospital which I have already described, I
>will be certain to file my nocturnal report here since I know everyone will
>be very interested in whatever I have for a dream.  I guess, if it comes
>right down to it, my wife can go no mail for a day or two, until such
>reporting has subsided.
>
>Phil.
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Date:         Wed, 25 Aug 2004 16:11:02 -0500
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Sandy and Phil,

lol!

Lovings!
Pat Ferguson


At 03:26 PM 8/25/04, you wrote:
>Better watch it Philip!!
>
>Sandy
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Date:         Wed, 25 Aug 2004 16:21:38 -0600
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Hi all, well, those of you in Colorado will remember the rain last Wednesday
the big one the one that flooded things, well, it flooded my phone line and
I lost both phone and dsl then they fixed the phone but I had no dsl for a
week I'm back now and boy do I have some catching up to do Sandy how is
Taylor?  Better I hope?
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Date:         Wed, 25 Aug 2004 16:39:53 -0600
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Oh yes, Phil, we are waiting for your dreams *grin I'm glad that someone was
willing to show you how to do everything that is cool


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From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 1:37 PM
Subject: Update on sleep apnea


> I received my equipment today and a very nice lady delivered it and
> explained every detail.  So, tonight will be my first night sleeping with
> the equipment.  Fortunately, this unit is brand new and is much quieter
than
> the hospital's machine.  Additionally, this one has a water vapor chamber,
> which makes the air breathed during the night, moist instead of dry.
> Fortunately, my insurance is paying for the whole thing which apparently
> costs about 1500 dollars, if not more, so thus far, we have not had to pay
> for either of the sleep studies nor the equipment.  Part of what I had to
be
> taught today was how to clean everything, too.  So that meant I had to
learn
> how to take everything apart and put it all back together.  The machine
has
> been preprogrammed for me to begin at a lower pressure level and build to
a
> full strength level of pressure in 45 minutes.  At which time, I will
> hopefully be sound a sleep and be dreaming peaceful exotic dreams.  You
> know, exotic as in Africa or the Caribbean or the south Pacific islands?
At
> least I think that's what I mean.  However, if I do have any other unusual
> dreams, as I did while in the hospital which I have already described, I
> will be certain to file my nocturnal report here since I know everyone
will
> be very interested in whatever I have for a dream.  I guess, if it comes
> right down to it, my wife can go no mail for a day or two, until such
> reporting has subsided.
>
> Phil.
>
>
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Date:         Wed, 25 Aug 2004 17:08:30 -0600
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Helen my sister and friend, I know how it feels not to let the Holy Spirit
heal if we don't even realize we are not letting HIm heal it won't happen so
just know your not alone


hugs


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From: "Helen" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 5:50 AM
Subject: Back again


> Good morning, E Church Family,
>
> I've been away for nearly a month, waiting on the Lord to bring healing to
> my spirit, which had been deeply wounded.  The healing is not complete as
> yet, because I have hindered the Lord by my own foolishness.  But I'm
> convicted of that, and am bringing an end to it so that the Lord may have
> the freedom He desires to answer my prayers for healing.  I know some of
> you have prayed for me, and for that I am deeply grateful.
>
> Looking forward to sweet fellowship with you in the Lord.
>
> Love and blessings,
> Helen
>
>
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Date:         Wed, 25 Aug 2004 17:20:16 -0600
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Hey I am in agreement with Ned yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehaw!!!! she's back



hugs


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From: "Ned Benton" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 7:12 AM
Subject: Re: HELLLO EVERYONE - CAROL'S BACK!


> Carol,
> What a joy to see you post.  I am thankful and praising the Lord that you
> are back with us.  We have all missed your posts and have been constantly
> praying for you healing and encouragement in you walk with the Lord.  The
> Lord is so good and it is good to hear you remind us often.
> God's blessings on you and Mike and continued healing and good health.
>
> Ned
>
>
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Date:         Wed, 25 Aug 2004 13:18:42 -0700
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Hi Pat,
All I can say to you is a resounding A Men.
Vinny
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Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 7:30 PM
Subject: hurting things was Re: Back again


> Dear Helen, and Everyone,
>
> Oh Loving Helen, you are so sweet! Your words are from your heart, and
from
> Jesus. They comfort me.
>
> You guys, do you know my Mother put me in a Baby home for 5 years because
> she couldn't deal with me with my blindness. I stayed with all kinds of
> people when I was little before I was five when they brought me home that
> summer before I was taken to the Oregon State School for the Blind. I
never
> felt a part of my family and I really still don't. It hurts me.
>
> When she said those horrible things to me on Saturday night, I wanted to
> tell her that I would quit calling people Loving, if she would quit
smoking
> and drinking, but I did not say that to her.
>
> My love is from The Lord, and I'll never stop telling people they are
> loving. I'll never stop calling people loving, either. If I do that, I
will
> be disobeying Jesus. It's because Jesus that this love exists, not because
> of me. I'm not capable of loving that much, but through Our Lord, Jesus
> Christ, we can do all things. I love to love people as God wants me to. I
> won't let anyone take that love away from me.
>
> I learned how to love when I was at the School for the Blind. We were
loved
> a whole lot. Yes, we were punished when we did wrong, but just ask Cecily
> and Paulette, we were also loved, and we were squeezed.
>
> So, guys, I'm sending this with all the love in my heart and you are all
> Loving! Because God made you that way.
>
> Am I crazy? Probably yes. I'm crazy for Jesus, and I don't care what
anyone
> thinks.
>
> Love and Blessings,
> Pat Ferguson
>
> At 12:20 PM 8/24/04, you wrote:
> >Thank you, dear loving Pat,
> >
> >With so many praying for me, and upholding me to the Father, the complete
> >healing of my spirit will surely come quickly.  God is so good!  And I
pray
> >the same for you, that your wounded spirit will heal quickly as well.
This
> >scripture always ministers to me:
> >
> >Pr 18:14  The spirit of a man will sustain his infirmity; but a wounded
> >spirit who can bear?
> >
> >This tells me that when our spirits are wounded, if they are not healed
> >quickly, it hinders us from being healed of our physical infirmities.
> >
> >In Him, and with my love,
> >Helen
> >
> >
> >
> >Earlier, Pat Ferguson wrote:
> > >Dear loving Helen,
> > >
> > >I write this message to you with tears in my eyes.
> > >
> > >I'm praying for you Loving One. I'm praying that God will give you a
> > >healing, and that you will be comforted in His love and Grace.
> > >
> > >I know what it is like to have your spirit woonded. I've been deeply
hurt
> > >lately by my Mother, and I'll share that with you all in another
message.
> > >
> > >Helen, if you ever want to talk, I can call you any time.
> > >
> > >You are such a sweet blessing to all of us, and we love you more than
you
> > >will ever know.
> > >
> > >I just wish I could squeeze everyone with a broken heart and let them
know
> > >they are loving, despite what my Mother said to me which hurt me
deeply.
> > >
> > >Many lovings and squeezings for you, Helen, and Praying for God's
comfort
> > >and peace and complete healing for your broken spirit.
> > >
> > >Love and Blessings,
> > >Pat Ferguson
> > >
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Date:         Wed, 25 Aug 2004 17:43:21 -0600
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Phil and Sandy,

What if the two of you had masks just alike?  NOT!!!

Vicki
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Date:         Wed, 25 Aug 2004 17:48:46 -0600
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Good thoughts, Helen.  Thanks for sharing.

Vicki

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Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 7:17 AM
Subject: Under His Feet


> I thought this such good spiritual food for today, so will share it with
you.
> Be blessed.
>
> Helen
>
> "You crowned Him with glory and honor and put
>   all things under His feet. In putting all things
>   under Him, God left nothing that is not subject
>   to Him." Hebrews 2:7-8
>
> All your afflictions are put under the feet of Jesus! You may
> think at times how harshly you are dealt with--mourning, it
> may be, under family bereavements, sorrowing after the loss
> of your 'household treasures'--a beloved husband, wife, or
> child. But O that you could bear in mind that all your
> afflictions, be they what they may, are put under the feet
> of Jesus, so that, so to speak, not one can crawl from under
> His feet but by His permission--and, like scolded hounds, they
> crawl again beneath them at a word of command from His lips!
>
> Let us then hold fast this truth, for on it depends so
> much of our comfort.
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Date:         Wed, 25 Aug 2004 17:50:22 -0600
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Woo Hoo!  I agree, Kathy.

Vicki

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Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 7:17 AM
Subject: Re: Back again


> Well Vicki, You anhd I had already agreed to bake the cookies.  Now we
> just need something to drink and some ice cream, some chips & dip and,
> well, maybe we should have some vegies for the health minded among us
> and we're all set!  Let's party!
> Kathy
>
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Date:         Wed, 25 Aug 2004 17:52:27 -0600
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Amen Kathy!

Vicki

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: Back again


> Now we just need to pray for Matt and Paul to come back and I'll feel
> like the church is back in full force.  Kathy
>
> ________________________________________________________________
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Date:         Wed, 25 Aug 2004 17:50:54 -0600
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Brad,

Yes, perhaps I exaggerated somewhere along the line but don't tell Sandy
that.

Phil.
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Date:         Wed, 25 Aug 2004 17:55:59 -0600
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Who's gunna bring the Pepsi?

Vicki

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> Karen Carter 74'
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> > Well Vicki, You anhd I had already agreed to bake the cookies. Now we
> > just need something to drink and some ice cream, some chips & dip and,
> > well, maybe we should have some vegies for the health minded among us
> > and we're all set! Let's party!
> > Kathy
> >
> > ________________________________________________________________
> > The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!
> > Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!
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Date:         Wed, 25 Aug 2004 17:58:45 -0600
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Lelia!  Good to have you back.  This has been a chatty and encouraging list
since the rain day.  I have a rain story to share.  Only I'm still writing
it.

Vicki

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lelia Struve" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 4:21 PM
Subject: Hi all I'm back blame it on the rain


> Hi all, well, those of you in Colorado will remember the rain last
Wednesday
> the big one the one that flooded things, well, it flooded my phone line
and
> I lost both phone and dsl then they fixed the phone but I had no dsl for a
> week I'm back now and boy do I have some catching up to do Sandy how is
> Taylor?  Better I hope?
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Date:         Wed, 25 Aug 2004 18:07:08 -0600
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Do keep us posted.  And thanks for the preliminary good report.  Believing
that lump will be exactly nothing to worry about.

Vicki

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 2:24 PM
Subject: Update on me


> Hi, all.  Just thought I'd give you an update on my breast lump.  My
> gynecologist doesn't think it's anything to worry about, and says it feels
> pretty benign;  but just to make sure, she's referring me to a surgeon at
> the breast clinic, who will either remove or biopsy it or drain it if it's
> a cyst.  She thinks the breast clinic will call me within the next couple
> days with an appointment, because they usually like to get women in
quickly
> because they know they worry.  So while I'm not totally out of the woods
> yet, it appears to my doctor that it's either a cyst or a fibroadenoma or
> some other benign lump.  Will keep you all posted.  I've got to get this
> taken care of soon, 'cause THE BEST OF BROADWAY opens on September 10 and
I
> have to be ready to sing my lil' heart out for three weeks.  <grin>
>
> Peggy
>
>
>
> mailto:[log in to unmask]
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Date:         Wed, 25 Aug 2004 18:08:36 -0600
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Keep us posted.  Praying.

Vicki

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 6:44 PM
Subject: Matt's job interview


> Hey Guys,
> Matt has a job interview Friday at a restaurant called Arnies.   He'd
> really like to get this job because it's less than a mile from campus and
> the people there are really great.  He put on his application that he was
> willing to do anything but cook.  Well, he's willing to learn, but that's
> about as far as it goes.    He's still looking in the mean time, but this
> is the first bite.  I'd be glad to have this job search over.  He moves
> into his dorm this weekend so the time is really running out for him to
> land something before classes start.
> Kathy
>
> ________________________________________________________________
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Date:         Wed, 25 Aug 2004 18:31:39 -0600
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Subject:      Re: Hi all I'm back blame it on the rain

Welcome back.  Taylor is doing good with his cast that glows in the dark.

Sandy
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Date:         Wed, 25 Aug 2004 18:32:50 -0600
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There is always a payback.

Sandy
----- Original Message -----
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> Brad,
>
> Yes, perhaps I exaggerated somewhere along the line but don't tell Sandy
> that.
>
> Phil.
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Date:         Wed, 25 Aug 2004 18:33:36 -0600
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Brad,I'll be praying for that pulled muscle.  THat's gotta hurt.

Julie=20
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  If you have a mind to, my wife Brenda could use a bit of prayer. She
  slipped and pulled a hamstring muscle pretty good yesterday. She'll be =
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  for a week and then we'll see how she is doing.

  Brad

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  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Prayer req 8/25</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>If you have a mind to, my wife Brenda could use a bit =
of=20
  prayer. She<BR>slipped and pulled a hamstring muscle pretty good =
yesterday.=20
  She'll be out<BR>for a week and then we'll see how she is=20
  doing.<BR><BR>Brad<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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Vickie, That is sooooo awesome!  Isn't it just like God to work =
miracles?  As has been said, maybe God would have you and this woman be =
friends.

As one math impaired person to another, I will definitely pray you =
through this class.

Julie=20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Vicki and The Rors<mailto:[log in to unmask]>=20
  To: =
[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]
U>=20
  Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 10:30 PM
  Subject: Re: Update on Quick Prayer Request from Vicki


  Here's the long and short of how God worked in this class situation.  =
Keep
  in mind that there are lots of econ classes with other instructors.  =
This
  instructor has several sections of the class.  I had almost decided =
that
  since the textbook was not available anywhere that I'd go to this =
first
  class and then probably drop.  Sure I could scan the book, but lots of
  graphs and geometry and algebra.  Considering that I am math =
challenged,
  sounded like the best solution to me after having had a day that was a
  Monday on a Tuesday; if you know what I mean.  So I showed up in =
class, as
  did the whole room full of other would-be students.  During the class, =
the
  instructor made reference to this woman in his class as a student this
  Semester, having been in his class last Semester.  At the end of =
class, I
  heard him ask her when her other kornea transplant was scheduled.  =
Naturally
  my ears became antenna-like.  More information forth coming was that =
she was
  now fully able to read print.  So that was miracle one.  Miracle two =
is that
  disability services office who specifically told me that this book was =
not
  in their catalog had actually recorded it for her and when she tried =
to
  return it to them, they refused to accept it back.  Therefore, she =
still had
  it in her possession.  So she will bring the tape recordeded text book =
to me
  next class.  Miracle 3 is that we could have been in the same class at =
all.
  There are lots of Macro Econ classes.  This instructor teaches 6 or 7
  sections alone.  Then there are all those taught by other instructors.

  Thanks for praying.  Best of all, God gets all the glory.  What a
  prayer-answering God we serve.  I have no objection if you pray me =
through
  the rest of the class.  Grin.

  Vicki

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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
  title=3Dmailto:[log in to unmask]
  =
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  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 24, 2004 =
10:30=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Update on Quick =
Prayer=20
  Request from Vicki</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Here's the long and short of how God worked in this =
class=20
  situation.&nbsp; Keep<BR>in mind that there are lots of econ classes =
with=20
  other instructors.&nbsp; This<BR>instructor has several sections of =
the=20
  class.&nbsp; I had almost decided that<BR>since the textbook was not =
available=20
  anywhere that I'd go to this first<BR>class and then probably =
drop.&nbsp; Sure=20
  I could scan the book, but lots of<BR>graphs and geometry and =
algebra.&nbsp;=20
  Considering that I am math challenged,<BR>sounded like the best =
solution to me=20
  after having had a day that was a<BR>Monday on a Tuesday; if you know =
what I=20
  mean.&nbsp; So I showed up in class, as<BR>did the whole room full of =
other=20
  would-be students.&nbsp; During the class, the<BR>instructor made =
reference to=20
  this woman in his class as a student this<BR>Semester, having been in =
his=20
  class last Semester.&nbsp; At the end of class, I<BR>heard him ask her =
when=20
  her other kornea transplant was scheduled.&nbsp; Naturally<BR>my ears =
became=20
  antenna-like.&nbsp; More information forth coming was that she =
was<BR>now=20
  fully able to read print.&nbsp; So that was miracle one.&nbsp; Miracle =
two is=20
  that<BR>disability services office who specifically told me that this =
book was=20
  not<BR>in their catalog had actually recorded it for her and when she =
tried=20
  to<BR>return it to them, they refused to accept it back.&nbsp; =
Therefore, she=20
  still had<BR>it in her possession.&nbsp; So she will bring the tape =
recordeded=20
  text book to me<BR>next class.&nbsp; Miracle 3 is that we could have =
been in=20
  the same class at all.<BR>There are lots of Macro Econ classes.&nbsp; =
This=20
  instructor teaches 6 or 7<BR>sections alone.&nbsp; Then there are all =
those=20
  taught by other instructors.<BR><BR>Thanks for praying.&nbsp; Best of =
all, God=20
  gets all the glory.&nbsp; What a<BR>prayer-answering God we =
serve.&nbsp; I=20
  have no objection if you pray me through<BR>the rest of the =
class.&nbsp;=20
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Yes, it is.s.  You know I never thought of a friendship which might develop
too.  Several of you have pointed that out.

Let Tracy know we're praying for her too.  And I value those prayers from
another math impaired person.  Smile.

Vicki




----- Original Message -----
From: "JULIE MELTON" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 6:43 PM
Subject: Re: Update on Quick Prayer Request from Vicki


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> Vickie, That is sooooo awesome!  Isn't it just like God to work =
> miracles?  As has been said, maybe God would have you and this woman be =
> friends.
>
> As one math impaired person to another, I will definitely pray you =
> through this class.
>
> Julie=20
>   ----- Original Message -----=20
>   From: Vicki and The Rors<mailto:[log in to unmask]>=20
>   To: =
> [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]
> U>=20
>   Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 10:30 PM
>   Subject: Re: Update on Quick Prayer Request from Vicki
>
>
>   Here's the long and short of how God worked in this class situation.  =
> Keep
>   in mind that there are lots of econ classes with other instructors.  =
> This
>   instructor has several sections of the class.  I had almost decided =
> that
>   since the textbook was not available anywhere that I'd go to this =
> first
>   class and then probably drop.  Sure I could scan the book, but lots of
>   graphs and geometry and algebra.  Considering that I am math =
> challenged,
>   sounded like the best solution to me after having had a day that was a
>   Monday on a Tuesday; if you know what I mean.  So I showed up in =
> class, as
>   did the whole room full of other would-be students.  During the class, =
> the
>   instructor made reference to this woman in his class as a student this
>   Semester, having been in his class last Semester.  At the end of =
> class, I
>   heard him ask her when her other kornea transplant was scheduled.  =
> Naturally
>   my ears became antenna-like.  More information forth coming was that =
> she was
>   now fully able to read print.  So that was miracle one.  Miracle two =
> is that
>   disability services office who specifically told me that this book was =
> not
>   in their catalog had actually recorded it for her and when she tried =
> to
>   return it to them, they refused to accept it back.  Therefore, she =
> still had
>   it in her possession.  So she will bring the tape recordeded text book =
> to me
>   next class.  Miracle 3 is that we could have been in the same class at =
> all.
>   There are lots of Macro Econ classes.  This instructor teaches 6 or 7
>   sections alone.  Then there are all those taught by other instructors.
>
>   Thanks for praying.  Best of all, God gets all the glory.  What a
>   prayer-answering God we serve.  I have no objection if you pray me =
> through
>   the rest of the class.  Grin.
>
>   Vicki
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> work=20
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> woman be=20
> friends.</DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>As one math impaired person to another, I will definitely pray you =
> through=20
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> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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> href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Vicki=20
>   and The Rors</A> </DIV>
>   <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
>   title=3Dmailto:[log in to unmask]
>   =
> href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]
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>   <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Update on Quick =
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>   <DIV><BR></DIV>Here's the long and short of how God worked in this =
> class=20
>   situation.&nbsp; Keep<BR>in mind that there are lots of econ classes =
> with=20
>   other instructors.&nbsp; This<BR>instructor has several sections of =
> the=20
>   class.&nbsp; I had almost decided that<BR>since the textbook was not =
> available=20
>   anywhere that I'd go to this first<BR>class and then probably =
> drop.&nbsp; Sure=20
>   I could scan the book, but lots of<BR>graphs and geometry and =
> algebra.&nbsp;=20
>   Considering that I am math challenged,<BR>sounded like the best =
> solution to me=20
>   after having had a day that was a<BR>Monday on a Tuesday; if you know =
> what I=20
>   mean.&nbsp; So I showed up in class, as<BR>did the whole room full of =
> other=20
>   would-be students.&nbsp; During the class, the<BR>instructor made =
> reference to=20
>   this woman in his class as a student this<BR>Semester, having been in =
> his=20
>   class last Semester.&nbsp; At the end of class, I<BR>heard him ask her =
> when=20
>   her other kornea transplant was scheduled.&nbsp; Naturally<BR>my ears =
> became=20
>   antenna-like.&nbsp; More information forth coming was that she =
> was<BR>now=20
>   fully able to read print.&nbsp; So that was miracle one.&nbsp; Miracle =
> two is=20
>   that<BR>disability services office who specifically told me that this =
> book was=20
>   not<BR>in their catalog had actually recorded it for her and when she =
> tried=20
>   to<BR>return it to them, they refused to accept it back.&nbsp; =
> Therefore, she=20
>   still had<BR>it in her possession.&nbsp; So she will bring the tape =
> recordeded=20
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> been in=20
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> This=20
>   instructor teaches 6 or 7<BR>sections alone.&nbsp; Then there are all =
> those=20
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> serve.&nbsp; I=20
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Thanks bunches Pat.

Vicki

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Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 10:24 AM
Subject: Re: Update on Quick Prayer Request from Vicki


> Vicki,
>
> Praise The Lord! That's wonderful! Of course I'll pray with you through
all
> your schooling. I'll be sending those lovings and squeezings for you every
day.
>
> "What a Mighty God we serve."
> Love and Blessings,
> Pat Ferguson
>
>
> At 11:30 PM 8/24/04, you wrote:
> >Here's the long and short of how God worked in this class situation.
Keep
> >in mind that there are lots of econ classes with other instructors.  This
> >instructor has several sections of the class.  I had almost decided that
> >since the textbook was not available anywhere that I'd go to this first
> >class and then probably drop.  Sure I could scan the book, but lots of
> >graphs and geometry and algebra.  Considering that I am math challenged,
> >sounded like the best solution to me after having had a day that was a
> >Monday on a Tuesday; if you know what I mean.  So I showed up in class,
as
> >did the whole room full of other would-be students.  During the class,
the
> >instructor made reference to this woman in his class as a student this
> >Semester, having been in his class last Semester.  At the end of class, I
> >heard him ask her when her other kornea transplant was scheduled.
Naturally
> >my ears became antenna-like.  More information forth coming was that she
was
> >now fully able to read print.  So that was miracle one.  Miracle two is
that
> >disability services office who specifically told me that this book was
not
> >in their catalog had actually recorded it for her and when she tried to
> >return it to them, they refused to accept it back.  Therefore, she still
had
> >it in her possession.  So she will bring the tape recordeded text book to
me
> >next class.  Miracle 3 is that we could have been in the same class at
all.
> >There are lots of Macro Econ classes.  This instructor teaches 6 or 7
> >sections alone.  Then there are all those taught by other instructors.
> >
> >Thanks for praying.  Best of all, God gets all the glory.  What a
> >prayer-answering God we serve.  I have no objection if you pray me
through
> >the rest of the class.  Grin.
> >
> >Vicki
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Very ouch.  Praying for her quick and sure recovery Brad.  In the meantime,
much TLC will help.

Vicki

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 6:39 AM
Subject: Prayer req 8/25


> If you have a mind to, my wife Brenda could use a bit of prayer. She
> slipped and pulled a hamstring muscle pretty good yesterday. She'll be out
> for a week and then we'll see how she is doing.
>
> Brad
>
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Thanks for that song.  Thought of it all day today.

Vicki

----- Original Message -----
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> Our God, is an awesome God, he reigns from heaven above with wisdom, power
> and love, our God is an awesome God. That's what came to mind. Great
> testimony of god working in your life.
>
> Brad
>
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Didn't think of that Kathy.  That's why we all need one another as a body.

Vicki

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kathy Du Bois" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 6:12 AM
Subject: Re: Update on Quick Prayer Request from Vicki


> Well, If disability services had taken the book and just given it to
> Vicki, Vicki may have never met this other woman.  Maybe the Lord is
> planning on Vicki and this other woman developing some sort of a
> friendship, or relationship that can be used for His glory.  Who knows!
> Kathy
>
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Amen!!! Kathy.

Vicki

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 6:08 AM
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> Vicki, all I can say is, "wow, wow and tripple wow!"  Go God!  Kathy
>
> ________________________________________________________________
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Thanks so very much Helen.
Vicki

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 5:23 AM
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> Vicki!  After all the years of knowing the Lord, I still stand in awe at
> His goodness and care for us.  I rejoice with you that He has answered our
> prayers for the book you need.
>
> Loving you, because of Him,
> Helen
>
> Earlier, Vicki and The Rors wrote:
> >Here's the long and short of how God worked in this class situation.
Keep
> >in mind that there are lots of econ classes with other instructors.  This
> >instructor has several sections of the class.  I had almost decided that
> >since the textbook was not available anywhere that I'd go to this first
> >class and then probably drop.  Sure I could scan the book, but lots of
> >graphs and geometry and algebra.  Considering that I am math challenged,
> >sounded like the best solution to me after having had a day that was a
> >Monday on a Tuesday; if you know what I mean.  So I showed up in class,
as
> >did the whole room full of other would-be students.  During the class,
the
> >instructor made reference to this woman in his class as a student this
> >Semester, having been in his class last Semester.  At the end of class, I
> >heard him ask her when her other kornea transplant was scheduled.
Naturally
> >my ears became antenna-like.  More information forth coming was that she
was
> >now fully able to read print.  So that was miracle one.  Miracle two is
that
> >disability services office who specifically told me that this book was
not
> >in their catalog had actually recorded it for her and when she tried to
> >return it to them, they refused to accept it back.  Therefore, she still
had
> >it in her possession.  So she will bring the tape recordeded text book to
me
> >next class.  Miracle 3 is that we could have been in the same class at
all.
> >There are lots of Macro Econ classes.  This instructor teaches 6 or 7
> >sections alone.  Then there are all those taught by other instructors.
> >
> >Thanks for praying.  Best of all, God gets all the glory.  What a
> >prayer-answering God we serve.  I have no objection if you pray me
through
> >the rest of the class.  Grin.
> >
> >Vicki
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Lelia,

Welcome back. Glad you didn't have to start pairing up species for that flood.
Brad


Lelia Struve wrote:
>Hi all, well, those of you in Colorado will remember the rain last Wednesday
>the big one the one that flooded things, well, it flooded my phone line and
>I lost both phone and dsl then they fixed the phone but I had no dsl for a
>week I'm back now and boy do I have some catching up to do Sandy how is
>Taylor?  Better I hope?

Brad

   On the other hand, you have different fingers
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Date:         Wed, 25 Aug 2004 18:37:58 -0700
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Nomail or not, we'll report all the dreams you share to Sandy.  <evil
grin>  Seriously, they are just dreams, and don't necessarily mean what one
might think they mean by just looking at the interesting content.  <lol>

Sleep well, and don't worry about what kinds of dreams you have.  The
important thing is that you rest.  Remember the verse in the psalm about
"He gives to his beloved sleep."

Peggy

At 01:37 PM 8/25/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>I received my equipment today and a very nice lady delivered it and
>explained every detail.  So, tonight will be my first night sleeping with
>the equipment.  Fortunately, this unit is brand new and is much quieter than
>the hospital's machine.  Additionally, this one has a water vapor chamber,
>which makes the air breathed during the night, moist instead of dry.
>Fortunately, my insurance is paying for the whole thing which apparently
>costs about 1500 dollars, if not more, so thus far, we have not had to pay
>for either of the sleep studies nor the equipment.  Part of what I had to be
>taught today was how to clean everything, too.  So that meant I had to learn
>how to take everything apart and put it all back together.  The machine has
>been preprogrammed for me to begin at a lower pressure level and build to a
>full strength level of pressure in 45 minutes.  At which time, I will
>hopefully be sound a sleep and be dreaming peaceful exotic dreams.  You
>know, exotic as in Africa or the Caribbean or the south Pacific islands?  At
>least I think that's what I mean.  However, if I do have any other unusual
>dreams, as I did while in the hospital which I have already described, I
>will be certain to file my nocturnal report here since I know everyone will
>be very interested in whatever I have for a dream.  I guess, if it comes
>right down to it, my wife can go no mail for a day or two, until such
>reporting has subsided.
>
>Phil.

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Date:         Wed, 25 Aug 2004 20:51:00 -0500
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Thanks Julie and Vicki and all.

She is somewhat better, at least she can get out of a chair one legged
without biting through her lip now.

Brad




JULIE MELTON wrote:
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>Brad,I'll be praying for that pulled muscle.  THat's gotta hurt.
>
>Julie=20
>   ----- Original Message -----=20
>   From: Brad Dunse<mailto:[log in to unmask]>=20
>   To: =
>[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]
>U>=20
>   Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 6:39 AM
>   Subject: Prayer req 8/25
>
>
>   If you have a mind to, my wife Brenda could use a bit of prayer. She
>   slipped and pulled a hamstring muscle pretty good yesterday. She'll be =
>out
>   for a week and then we'll see how she is doing.
>
>   Brad
>
>------=_NextPart_000_0064_01C48AD2.08958B40
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>         charset="iso-8859-1"
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><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>Brad,I'll be praying for that pulled muscle.  THat's gotta = hurt.
>
>Julie
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <3d.htm>Brad Dunse
>To: [log in to unmask] TJOHNS.EDU=20
>Sent: Wednesday, August 25, = 2004 6:39=20 AM
>Subject: Prayer req 8/25
>
>If you have a mind to, my wife Brenda could use a bit = of=20 prayer. She
>slipped and pulled a hamstring muscle pretty good = yesterday.=20 She'll
>be out
>for a week and then we'll see how she is=20 doing.
>
>Brad
>
>
>------=_NextPart_000_0064_01C48AD2.08958B40--

Brad

   Don't make temporary situations into permanent problems
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Vicki, Kathy, and Everyone,

Now, you can't have a party without pepsi and coke. lol. I'll bring them
both. I'll also bring some salads and meats and cheese.

I'll make a potato salad, pastaccio salad, pasta salad, and a lettuce
salad. Oh, also a cucumber salad.

I'll bring some ham, turkey and chicken. lol.

I'll bring beer for those who want it. lol.

Yes, we got to have veggies and dips and also chips and dips. lol.

Lovings!

Pat Ferguson



At 06:55 PM 8/25/04, you wrote:
>Who's gunna bring the Pepsi?
>
>Vicki
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Karen Carter" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 12:15 PM
>Subject: Re: Back again
>
>
> > --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_20148_1093371329_0
> > Content-Type: text/plain
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
> >
> > Don't forget the pizza.
> >
> >
> > --
> > In any kind of circumstance PRAY
> >
> > Karen Carter 74'
> >
> >
> > -------------- Original message --------------
> >
> > > Well Vicki, You anhd I had already agreed to bake the cookies. Now we
> > > just need something to drink and some ice cream, some chips & dip and,
> > > well, maybe we should have some vegies for the health minded among us
> > > and we're all set! Let's party!
> > > Kathy
> > >
> > > ________________________________________________________________
> > > The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!
> > > Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!
> > > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!
> > --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_20148_1093371329_0
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> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
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> > <html><body>
> > Don't forget the pizza. <BR><BR>
> > <DIV class=signature id=signature>--<BR>In any kind of circumstance PRAY
><BR><BR>Karen Carter 74'</DIV><BR>
> > <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT:
>#1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message --------------
><BR><BR>&gt; Well Vicki, You anhd I had already agreed to bake the cookies.
>Now we <BR>&gt; just need something to drink and some ice cream, some chips
>&amp; dip and, <BR>&gt; well, maybe we should have some vegies for the
>health minded among us <BR>&gt; and we're all set! Let's party! <BR>&gt;
>Kathy <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;
>________________________________________________________________ <BR>&gt;
>The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! <BR>&gt; Surf
>the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! <BR>&gt; Only $14.95/ month - visit
>www.juno.com to sign up today! </BLOCKQUOTE></body></html>
> >
> > --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_20148_1093371329_0--
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Well, keep us posted Brad.  I'm glad there is some improvement already.
That sure can be painful.  Praying relief from the pain and good recovery.

Vicki


Vicki

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brad Dunse" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: Prayer req 8/25


> Thanks Julie and Vicki and all.
>
> She is somewhat better, at least she can get out of a chair one legged
> without biting through her lip now.
>
> Brad
>
>
>
>
> JULIE MELTON wrote:
> >This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> >
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> >         charset="iso-8859-1"
> >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> >
> >Brad,I'll be praying for that pulled muscle.  THat's gotta hurt.
> >
> >Julie=20
> >   ----- Original Message -----=20
> >   From: Brad Dunse<mailto:[log in to unmask]>=20
> >   To: =
>
>[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]
> >U>=20
> >   Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 6:39 AM
> >   Subject: Prayer req 8/25
> >
> >
> >   If you have a mind to, my wife Brenda could use a bit of prayer. She
> >   slipped and pulled a hamstring muscle pretty good yesterday. She'll be
=
> >out
> >   for a week and then we'll see how she is doing.
> >
> >   Brad
> >
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> >Brad,I'll be praying for that pulled muscle.  THat's gotta = hurt.
> >
> >Julie
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: <3d.htm>Brad Dunse
> >To: [log in to unmask] TJOHNS.EDU=20
> >Sent: Wednesday, August 25, = 2004 6:39=20 AM
> >Subject: Prayer req 8/25
> >
> >If you have a mind to, my wife Brenda could use a bit = of=20 prayer. She
> >slipped and pulled a hamstring muscle pretty good = yesterday.=20 She'll
> >be out
> >for a week and then we'll see how she is=20 doing.
> >
> >Brad
> >
> >
> >------=_NextPart_000_0064_01C48AD2.08958B40--
>
> Brad
>
>    Don't make temporary situations into permanent problems
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Wow Pat.  You're going to be very busy preping all that food.  Sounds like a
vunderful party to me.

Vicki

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pat Ferguson" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: Back again


> Vicki, Kathy, and Everyone,
>
> Now, you can't have a party without pepsi and coke. lol. I'll bring them
> both. I'll also bring some salads and meats and cheese.
>
> I'll make a potato salad, pastaccio salad, pasta salad, and a lettuce
> salad. Oh, also a cucumber salad.
>
> I'll bring some ham, turkey and chicken. lol.
>
> I'll bring beer for those who want it. lol.
>
> Yes, we got to have veggies and dips and also chips and dips. lol.
>
> Lovings!
>
> Pat Ferguson
>
>
>
> At 06:55 PM 8/25/04, you wrote:
> >Who's gunna bring the Pepsi?
> >
> >Vicki
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Karen Carter" <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 12:15 PM
> >Subject: Re: Back again
> >
> >
> > > --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_20148_1093371329_0
> > > Content-Type: text/plain
> > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
> > >
> > > Don't forget the pizza.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > In any kind of circumstance PRAY
> > >
> > > Karen Carter 74'
> > >
> > >
> > > -------------- Original message --------------
> > >
> > > > Well Vicki, You anhd I had already agreed to bake the cookies. Now
we
> > > > just need something to drink and some ice cream, some chips & dip
and,
> > > > well, maybe we should have some vegies for the health minded among
us
> > > > and we're all set! Let's party!
> > > > Kathy
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________________________________________
> > > > The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!
> > > > Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!
> > > > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!
> > > --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_20148_1093371329_0
> > > Content-Type: text/html
> > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
> > >
> > > <html><body>
> > > Don't forget the pizza. <BR><BR>
> > > <DIV class=signature id=signature>--<BR>In any kind of circumstance
PRAY
> ><BR><BR>Karen Carter 74'</DIV><BR>
> > > <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT:
> >#1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message --------------
> ><BR><BR>&gt; Well Vicki, You anhd I had already agreed to bake the
cookies.
> >Now we <BR>&gt; just need something to drink and some ice cream, some
chips
> >&amp; dip and, <BR>&gt; well, maybe we should have some vegies for the
> >health minded among us <BR>&gt; and we're all set! Let's party! <BR>&gt;
> >Kathy <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;
> >________________________________________________________________ <BR>&gt;
> >The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! <BR>&gt;
Surf
> >the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! <BR>&gt; Only $14.95/ month - visit
> >www.juno.com to sign up today! </BLOCKQUOTE></body></html>
> > >
> > > --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_20148_1093371329_0--
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Date:         Wed, 25 Aug 2004 21:04:37 -0600
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You're exactly right Ned.  Even before.  And we often hesitate to ask the
Lord who truly loves us so very much.

Vicki

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ned Benton" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 4:11 AM
Subject: Re: Update on Quick Prayer Request from Vicki


> Vickie,
> What a God we serve!  It is wonderful!  Isn't it something how we pray and
> ask God to do something in our lives and then when He does it, we are
> surprised!  Truly, God worked this out and I believe it was before we even
> asked.  Praise Him and we will pray you through this simester.
>
> Ned
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Date:         Wed, 25 Aug 2004 23:36:22 -0400
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Hi, Phil, good luck with your new machiny friend.  It sounds like we both
have the same machine.  I didn't get a water chamber, though, and have never
used one.  Hugs and blessings and prayers for a restful, if exotic, sleep!

Littlekat
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 3:37 PM
Subject: Update on sleep apnea


I received my equipment today and a very nice lady delivered it and
explained every detail.  So, tonight will be my first night sleeping with
the equipment.  Fortunately, this unit is brand new and is much quieter than
the hospital's machine.  Additionally, this one has a water vapor chamber,
which makes the air breathed during the night, moist instead of dry.
Fortunately, my insurance is paying for the whole thing which apparently
costs about 1500 dollars, if not more, so thus far, we have not had to pay
for either of the sleep studies nor the equipment.  Part of what I had to be
taught today was how to clean everything, too.  So that meant I had to learn
how to take everything apart and put it all back together.  The machine has
been preprogrammed for me to begin at a lower pressure level and build to a
full strength level of pressure in 45 minutes.  At which time, I will
hopefully be sound a sleep and be dreaming peaceful exotic dreams.  You
know, exotic as in Africa or the Caribbean or the south Pacific islands?  At
least I think that's what I mean.  However, if I do have any other unusual
dreams, as I did while in the hospital which I have already described, I
will be certain to file my nocturnal report here since I know everyone will
be very interested in whatever I have for a dream.  I guess, if it comes
right down to it, my wife can go no mail for a day or two, until such
reporting has subsided.

Phil.
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Date:         Thu, 26 Aug 2004 04:57:22 +0100
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Lelia,

I was wondering where you were.  Sorry you've had a few problems with
your phone but it's good to hug again!


--
Carol
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-----Original Message-----
From: Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
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Sent: 26 August 2004 00:20
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: HELLLO EVERYONE - CAROL'S BACK!


Hey I am in agreement with Ned yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehaw!!!! she's back



hugs


Lelia Struve email [log in to unmask] msn [log in to unmask]
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ned Benton" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 7:12 AM
Subject: Re: HELLLO EVERYONE - CAROL'S BACK!


> Carol,
> What a joy to see you post.  I am thankful and praising the Lord that
> you are back with us.  We have all missed your posts and have been
> constantly praying for you healing and encouragement in you walk with
> the Lord.  The Lord is so good and it is good to hear you remind us
> often. God's blessings on you and Mike and continued healing and good
> health.
>
> Ned
>
>

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Thank you Lisa.

Phil.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Littlekat10" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: Update on sleep apnea


> Hi, Phil, good luck with your new machiny friend.  It sounds like we both
> have the same machine.  I didn't get a water chamber, though, and have
never
> used one.  Hugs and blessings and prayers for a restful, if exotic, sleep!
>
> Littlekat
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 3:37 PM
> Subject: Update on sleep apnea
>
>
> I received my equipment today and a very nice lady delivered it and
> explained every detail.  So, tonight will be my first night sleeping with
> the equipment.  Fortunately, this unit is brand new and is much quieter
than
> the hospital's machine.  Additionally, this one has a water vapor chamber,
> which makes the air breathed during the night, moist instead of dry.
> Fortunately, my insurance is paying for the whole thing which apparently
> costs about 1500 dollars, if not more, so thus far, we have not had to pay
> for either of the sleep studies nor the equipment.  Part of what I had to
be
> taught today was how to clean everything, too.  So that meant I had to
learn
> how to take everything apart and put it all back together.  The machine
has
> been preprogrammed for me to begin at a lower pressure level and build to
a
> full strength level of pressure in 45 minutes.  At which time, I will
> hopefully be sound a sleep and be dreaming peaceful exotic dreams.  You
> know, exotic as in Africa or the Caribbean or the south Pacific islands?
At
> least I think that's what I mean.  However, if I do have any other unusual
> dreams, as I did while in the hospital which I have already described, I
> will be certain to file my nocturnal report here since I know everyone
will
> be very interested in whatever I have for a dream.  I guess, if it comes
> right down to it, my wife can go no mail for a day or two, until such
> reporting has subsided.
>
> Phil.
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Date:         Thu, 26 Aug 2004 05:00:57 +0100
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Lelia,

I notice you're now married.  Please write privately (address at the
bottom of my messsage) and tell me about the wedding and how things are
going.

Hugs!


--
Carol
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-----Original Message-----
From: Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
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Sent: 25 August 2004 23:40
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Update on sleep apnea


Oh yes, Phil, we are waiting for your dreams *grin I'm glad that someone
was willing to show you how to do everything that is cool


Lelia Struve email [log in to unmask] msn [log in to unmask]
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 1:37 PM
Subject: Update on sleep apnea


> I received my equipment today and a very nice lady delivered it and
> explained every detail.  So, tonight will be my first night sleeping
> with the equipment.  Fortunately, this unit is brand new and is much
> quieter
than
> the hospital's machine.  Additionally, this one has a water vapor
> chamber, which makes the air breathed during the night, moist instead
> of dry. Fortunately, my insurance is paying for the whole thing which
> apparently costs about 1500 dollars, if not more, so thus far, we have

> not had to pay for either of the sleep studies nor the equipment.
> Part of what I had to
be
> taught today was how to clean everything, too.  So that meant I had to
learn
> how to take everything apart and put it all back together.  The
> machine
has
> been preprogrammed for me to begin at a lower pressure level and build

> to
a
> full strength level of pressure in 45 minutes.  At which time, I will
> hopefully be sound a sleep and be dreaming peaceful exotic dreams.
> You know, exotic as in Africa or the Caribbean or the south Pacific
> islands?
At
> least I think that's what I mean.  However, if I do have any other
> unusual dreams, as I did while in the hospital which I have already
> described, I will be certain to file my nocturnal report here since I
> know everyone
will
> be very interested in whatever I have for a dream.  I guess, if it
> comes right down to it, my wife can go no mail for a day or two, until

> such reporting has subsided.
>
> Phil.
>
>

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Date:         Wed, 25 Aug 2004 15:12:12 -0700
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Hi Phil,
This gets very serious when you and Sandi have to write email to each other.
Having personal communications problems.  Maybe we'll all have to come and
counsel you guys.
Lol.
Vinny
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: Update on sleep apnea


> I forgot to mention that my wife is always in my exotic dreams.  At least
I
> think I forgot to mention it.
>
> Phil.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sandy Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 2:26 PM
> Subject: Re: Update on sleep apnea
>
>
> > Better watch it Philip!!
> >
> > Sandy
>
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Date:         Wed, 25 Aug 2004 21:46:21 -0700
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Hi Pat,
I'll bring the coffee, and since I'm such a popcorn adict, I'll make it and
bring it too.
Vinny
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pat Ferguson" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: Back again


> Vicki, Kathy, and Everyone,
>
> Now, you can't have a party without pepsi and coke. lol. I'll bring them
> both. I'll also bring some salads and meats and cheese.
>
> I'll make a potato salad, pastaccio salad, pasta salad, and a lettuce
> salad. Oh, also a cucumber salad.
>
> I'll bring some ham, turkey and chicken. lol.
>
> I'll bring beer for those who want it. lol.
>
> Yes, we got to have veggies and dips and also chips and dips. lol.
>
> Lovings!
>
> Pat Ferguson
>
>
>
> At 06:55 PM 8/25/04, you wrote:
> >Who's gunna bring the Pepsi?
> >
> >Vicki
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Karen Carter" <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 12:15 PM
> >Subject: Re: Back again
> >
> >
> > > --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_20148_1093371329_0
> > > Content-Type: text/plain
> > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
> > >
> > > Don't forget the pizza.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > In any kind of circumstance PRAY
> > >
> > > Karen Carter 74'
> > >
> > >
> > > -------------- Original message --------------
> > >
> > > > Well Vicki, You anhd I had already agreed to bake the cookies. Now
we
> > > > just need something to drink and some ice cream, some chips & dip
and,
> > > > well, maybe we should have some vegies for the health minded among
us
> > > > and we're all set! Let's party!
> > > > Kathy
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________________________________________
> > > > The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!
> > > > Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!
> > > > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!
> > > --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_20148_1093371329_0
> > > Content-Type: text/html
> > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
> > >
> > > <html><body>
> > > Don't forget the pizza. <BR><BR>
> > > <DIV class=signature id=signature>--<BR>In any kind of circumstance
PRAY
> ><BR><BR>Karen Carter 74'</DIV><BR>
> > > <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT:
> >#1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message --------------
> ><BR><BR>&gt; Well Vicki, You anhd I had already agreed to bake the
cookies.
> >Now we <BR>&gt; just need something to drink and some ice cream, some
chips
> >&amp; dip and, <BR>&gt; well, maybe we should have some vegies for the
> >health minded among us <BR>&gt; and we're all set! Let's party! <BR>&gt;
> >Kathy <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;
> >________________________________________________________________ <BR>&gt;
> >The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! <BR>&gt;
Surf
> >the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! <BR>&gt; Only $14.95/ month - visit
> >www.juno.com to sign up today! </BLOCKQUOTE></body></html>
> > >
> > > --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_20148_1093371329_0--
>
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Date:         Wed, 25 Aug 2004 23:09:39 -0600
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Ain't it the truth Vinny.

Phil.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Vinny Samarco" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 4:12 PM
Subject: Re: Update on sleep apnea


> Hi Phil,
> This gets very serious when you and Sandi have to write email to each
other.
> Having personal communications problems.  Maybe we'll all have to come and
> counsel you guys.
> Lol.
> Vinny
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 1:24 PM
> Subject: Re: Update on sleep apnea
>
>
> > I forgot to mention that my wife is always in my exotic dreams.  At
least
> I
> > think I forgot to mention it.
> >
> > Phil.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Sandy Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 2:26 PM
> > Subject: Re: Update on sleep apnea
> >
> >
> > > Better watch it Philip!!
> > >
> > > Sandy
> >
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Date:         Wed, 25 Aug 2004 23:20:00 -0600
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Vinny,


Can't have a party without the pop corn.  Grin.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Vinny Samarco" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 10:46 PM
Subject: Re: Back again


> Hi Pat,
> I'll bring the coffee, and since I'm such a popcorn adict, I'll make it
and
> bring it too.
> Vinny
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pat Ferguson" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 7:16 PM
> Subject: Re: Back again
>
>
> > Vicki, Kathy, and Everyone,
> >
> > Now, you can't have a party without pepsi and coke. lol. I'll bring them
> > both. I'll also bring some salads and meats and cheese.
> >
> > I'll make a potato salad, pastaccio salad, pasta salad, and a lettuce
> > salad. Oh, also a cucumber salad.
> >
> > I'll bring some ham, turkey and chicken. lol.
> >
> > I'll bring beer for those who want it. lol.
> >
> > Yes, we got to have veggies and dips and also chips and dips. lol.
> >
> > Lovings!
> >
> > Pat Ferguson
> >
> >
> >
> > At 06:55 PM 8/25/04, you wrote:
> > >Who's gunna bring the Pepsi?
> > >
> > >Vicki
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Karen Carter" <[log in to unmask]>
> > >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > >Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 12:15 PM
> > >Subject: Re: Back again
> > >
> > >
> > > > --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_20148_1093371329_0
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain
> > > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
> > > >
> > > > Don't forget the pizza.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > In any kind of circumstance PRAY
> > > >
> > > > Karen Carter 74'
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -------------- Original message --------------
> > > >
> > > > > Well Vicki, You anhd I had already agreed to bake the cookies. Now
> we
> > > > > just need something to drink and some ice cream, some chips & dip
> and,
> > > > > well, maybe we should have some vegies for the health minded among
> us
> > > > > and we're all set! Let's party!
> > > > > Kathy
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________________________________________
> > > > > The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!
> > > > > Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!
> > > > > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!
> > > > --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_20148_1093371329_0
> > > > Content-Type: text/html
> > > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
> > > >
> > > > <html><body>
> > > > Don't forget the pizza. <BR><BR>
> > > > <DIV class=signature id=signature>--<BR>In any kind of circumstance
> PRAY
> > ><BR><BR>Karen Carter 74'</DIV><BR>
> > > > <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT:
> > >#1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message --------------
> > ><BR><BR>&gt; Well Vicki, You anhd I had already agreed to bake the
> cookies.
> > >Now we <BR>&gt; just need something to drink and some ice cream, some
> chips
> > >&amp; dip and, <BR>&gt; well, maybe we should have some vegies for the
> > >health minded among us <BR>&gt; and we're all set! Let's party!
<BR>&gt;
> > >Kathy <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;
> > >________________________________________________________________
<BR>&gt;
> > >The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! <BR>&gt;
> Surf
> > >the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! <BR>&gt; Only $14.95/ month - visit
> > >www.juno.com to sign up today! </BLOCKQUOTE></body></html>
> > > >
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> >
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Date:         Thu, 26 Aug 2004 06:54:30 -0400
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Sweet Lelia,

Thank you for the encouraging words.  You're right in that sometimes we
don't even realize we are hindering the Holy Spirit from healing us.  And
usually it is because we walk in the flesh and not in the spirit.  Or so it
has been with me.

Hugs,
Helen

Earlier, Lelia Struve wrote:
>Helen my sister and friend, I know how it feels not to let the Holy Spirit
>heal if we don't even realize we are not letting HIm heal it won't happen so
>just know your not alone
>
>
>hugs
>
>
>Lelia Struve email [log in to unmask] msn [log in to unmask]
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Helen" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 5:50 AM
>Subject: Back again
>
>
> > Good morning, E Church Family,
> >
> > I've been away for nearly a month, waiting on the Lord to bring healing to
> > my spirit, which had been deeply wounded.  The healing is not complete as
> > yet, because I have hindered the Lord by my own foolishness.  But I'm
> > convicted of that, and am bringing an end to it so that the Lord may have
> > the freedom He desires to answer my prayers for healing.  I know some of
> > you have prayed for me, and for that I am deeply grateful.
> >
> > Looking forward to sweet fellowship with you in the Lord.
> >
> > Love and blessings,
> > Helen
> >
> >
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Date:         Wed, 25 Aug 2004 20:38:29 -0400
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Vicki, Pepsi, oh no, it's coke all the way, or, if you insist on partying
at my house, being in Maine, you'll all have to try a sip of moxy!
Yes, there really is a soft drink here in Maine called Moxy!
Kathy

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Date:         Wed, 25 Aug 2004 20:40:38 -0400
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Phil,
I'm just hoping that you remember the jokes from your last dream.
Kathy

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Date:         Thu, 26 Aug 2004 07:17:56 -0400
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Oh Brad,
I do hope that you are waiting on her hand and foot!  This is a situation
ripe with browny points for you if you play it right!  GRIN!  I hope that
she is feeling better real soon.  Perhaps you could use this injury as an
excuse to get a hot tub!  Hey, could insurance help with that right now?
Hmmmm!
Kathy

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Date:         Thu, 26 Aug 2004 07:19:50 -0400
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That does it!  I vote that we move the party to Pat's house!  I want to
save her the expense of the truck rental that she would need to endure to
get all those salads to Maine.  Yum!
Kathy

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Date:         Thu, 26 Aug 2004 06:57:41 -0600
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Helen how true that is and that is an ouch for me too.

hugs


Lelia Struve email [log in to unmask] msn [log in to unmask]
----- Original Message -----
From: "Helen" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 4:54 AM
Subject: Re: Back again


> Sweet Lelia,
>
> Thank you for the encouraging words.  You're right in that sometimes we
> don't even realize we are hindering the Holy Spirit from healing us.  And
> usually it is because we walk in the flesh and not in the spirit.  Or so
it
> has been with me.
>
> Hugs,
> Helen
>
> Earlier, Lelia Struve wrote:
> >Helen my sister and friend, I know how it feels not to let the Holy
Spirit
> >heal if we don't even realize we are not letting HIm heal it won't happen
so
> >just know your not alone
> >
> >
> >hugs
> >
> >
> >Lelia Struve email [log in to unmask] msn [log in to unmask]
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Helen" <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 5:50 AM
> >Subject: Back again
> >
> >
> > > Good morning, E Church Family,
> > >
> > > I've been away for nearly a month, waiting on the Lord to bring
healing to
> > > my spirit, which had been deeply wounded.  The healing is not complete
as
> > > yet, because I have hindered the Lord by my own foolishness.  But I'm
> > > convicted of that, and am bringing an end to it so that the Lord may
have
> > > the freedom He desires to answer my prayers for healing.  I know some
of
> > > you have prayed for me, and for that I am deeply grateful.
> > >
> > > Looking forward to sweet fellowship with you in the Lord.
> > >
> > > Love and blessings,
> > > Helen
> > >
> > >
>
>
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Date:         Thu, 26 Aug 2004 07:06:40 -0600
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From:         Lelia Struve <[log in to unmask]>
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I thought we might have to I was talking of feeling Noah trust me *grin

I remember that night saying to Todd hey wouldn't it be funny if we woke up
and our house was like Noah's ark floating?

WE laughed


Lelia Struve email [log in to unmask] msn [log in to unmask]
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brad Dunse" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: Hi all I'm back blame it on the rain


> Lelia,
>
> Welcome back. Glad you didn't have to start pairing up species for that
flood.
> Brad
>
>
> Lelia Struve wrote:
> >Hi all, well, those of you in Colorado will remember the rain last
Wednesday
> >the big one the one that flooded things, well, it flooded my phone line
and
> >I lost both phone and dsl then they fixed the phone but I had no dsl for
a
> >week I'm back now and boy do I have some catching up to do Sandy how is
> >Taylor?  Better I hope?
>
> Brad
>
>    On the other hand, you have different fingers
>
>
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Date:         Thu, 26 Aug 2004 07:08:52 -0600
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Oh wow cool it glows in the dark I bet he loves it.


Lelia Struve email [log in to unmask] msn [log in to unmask]
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sandy Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: Hi all I'm back blame it on the rain


> Welcome back.  Taylor is doing good with his cast that glows in the dark.
>
> Sandy
>
>
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Date:         Thu, 26 Aug 2004 07:11:11 -0600
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How did you fair in the rain Vicki and Phil and Sandy?


Lelia Struve email [log in to unmask] msn [log in to unmask]
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vicki and The Rors" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: Hi all I'm back blame it on the rain


> Lelia!  Good to have you back.  This has been a chatty and encouraging
list
> since the rain day.  I have a rain story to share.  Only I'm still writing
> it.
>
> Vicki
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lelia Struve" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 4:21 PM
> Subject: Hi all I'm back blame it on the rain
>
>
> > Hi all, well, those of you in Colorado will remember the rain last
> Wednesday
> > the big one the one that flooded things, well, it flooded my phone line
> and
> > I lost both phone and dsl then they fixed the phone but I had no dsl for
a
> > week I'm back now and boy do I have some catching up to do Sandy how is
> > Taylor?  Better I hope?
>
>
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Date:         Thu, 26 Aug 2004 10:33:47 -0500
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Vinny,

Yes, you are right, we can't have a party without popcorn and coffee. lol.

Lovings!
Pat Ferguson
At 11:46 PM 8/25/04, you wrote:
>Hi Pat,
>I'll bring the coffee, and since I'm such a popcorn adict, I'll make it and
>bring it too.
>Vinny
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Pat Ferguson" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 7:16 PM
>Subject: Re: Back again
>
>
> > Vicki, Kathy, and Everyone,
> >
> > Now, you can't have a party without pepsi and coke. lol. I'll bring them
> > both. I'll also bring some salads and meats and cheese.
> >
> > I'll make a potato salad, pastaccio salad, pasta salad, and a lettuce
> > salad. Oh, also a cucumber salad.
> >
> > I'll bring some ham, turkey and chicken. lol.
> >
> > I'll bring beer for those who want it. lol.
> >
> > Yes, we got to have veggies and dips and also chips and dips. lol.
> >
> > Lovings!
> >
> > Pat Ferguson
> >
> >
> >
> > At 06:55 PM 8/25/04, you wrote:
> > >Who's gunna bring the Pepsi?
> > >
> > >Vicki
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Karen Carter" <[log in to unmask]>
> > >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > >Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 12:15 PM
> > >Subject: Re: Back again
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> > > > Karen Carter 74'
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -------------- Original message --------------
> > > >
> > > > > Well Vicki, You anhd I had already agreed to bake the cookies. Now
>we
> > > > > just need something to drink and some ice cream, some chips & dip
>and,
> > > > > well, maybe we should have some vegies for the health minded among
>us
> > > > > and we're all set! Let's party!
> > > > > Kathy
> > > > >
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> > ><BR><BR>&gt; Well Vicki, You anhd I had already agreed to bake the
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> > >Now we <BR>&gt; just need something to drink and some ice cream, some
>chips
> > >&amp; dip and, <BR>&gt; well, maybe we should have some vegies for the
> > >health minded among us <BR>&gt; and we're all set! Let's party! <BR>&gt;
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Date:         Thu, 26 Aug 2004 10:38:48 -0500
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Kathy,

lol. It would take a few ice chests to get all those salads to Main. lol.

We can party here, and then we can go to your house and party also. lol.

We can finish the siding while we're all here. lol. We just got the west
end to finish but not any high stuff. lol.

Then we can go to your house and finish it, too! Actually, we should finish
your house first! lol

Lovings!
Pat Ferguson

At 06:19 AM 8/26/04, you wrote:
>That does it!  I vote that we move the party to Pat's house!  I want to
>save her the expense of the truck rental that she would need to endure to
>get all those salads to Maine.  Yum!
>Kathy
>
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Oooooh Pat, I'm liking this.  First, we'll finish my house, then end up
at your house to do the siding and then reward ourselves with a party!
Okay, I'm in!
Kathy

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Date:         Thu, 26 Aug 2004 10:14:27 -0600
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I would like to thank everyone for praying for Taylor.  He had a doctor
appointment and the fracture is healing very well.  He still has a long cast
on. They considered placing a short cast but the break was rather severe so
thought against it.

Sandy
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I think this is a new round of what kids say.  Cute
Kathy

Subject: Fw: They sort of listen

A Sunday school teacher asked her class, "What was Jesus' mother's name?"
>One child answered, "Mary."
>The teacher then asked, "Who knows what Jesus' father's name was?"
>A little kid said, "Verge."
>Confused, the teacher asked, "Where did you get that?"
>The kid said, "Well, you know they are always talking about Verge n'
Mary.''
>
>***********
>KIDS IN CHURCH
>3-year-old, Reese:
>"Our Father, Who does art in
>heaven, Harold is His name.
>Amen."
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>A little boy was overheard praying:
>"Lord, if you can't make me a better boy, don't worry about it.
>I'm having a real good time like I am."
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>A Sunday school class was studying the Ten Commandments.
>They were ready to discuss the last one.
>The teacher asked if anyone could tell her what it was.
>Susie raised her hand, stood tall, and quoted,
>"Thou shall not take the covers off the neighbor's wife."
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>After the christening of his baby brother in church,
>Jason sobbed all the way home in the back seat of the car.
>His father asked him three times what was wrong.
>Finally, the boy replied,
>"That preacher said he wanted us brought up in a
>Christian home, and I wanted to stay with you guys."
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>I had been teaching my three-year old daughter, Caitlin, the Lord's
Prayer
>for several evenings at bedtime,
>she would repeat after me the lines from the prayer.
>Finally, she decided to go solo.
>I listened with pride as she carefully enunciated
>each word right up to the end of the prayer:
>"Lead us not into temptation," she prayed,
>"but deliver us some E-mail.
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>One particular four-year-old prayed,
>"And forgive us our trash baskets
>as we forgive those who put trash in our baskets."
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>A Sunday school teacher asked her children, as they were on the way to
>church service,
>"And why is it necessary to be quiet in church?"
>One bright little girl replied,
>"Because people are sleeping."
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>Six-year-old Angie and her four-year-old brother Joel were sitting
together
>in church.
>Joel giggled, sang, and talked out loud.
>Finally, his big sister had had enough.
>"You're not supposed to talk out loud in church."
>"Why? Who's going to stop me?" Joel asked.
>Angie pointed to the back of the church and said,
>"See those two men standing by the door?
>They're hushers."
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>A mother was preparing pancakes for her sons, Kevin, 5 and Ryan 3.
>The boys began to argue over who would get the first pancake.
>Their mother saw the opportunity for a moral lesson.
>"If Jesus were sitting here, He would say,
>'Let my brother have the first pancake, I can wait.'"
>Kevin turned to his younger brother and said, "Ryan, you be Jesus!"
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>A father was at the beach with his children
>when the four-year-old son ran up to him,
>grabbed his hand, and led him to the shore
>where a seagull lay dead in the sand.
>"Daddy, what happened to him?" the son asked.
>"He died and went to Heaven," the Dad replied.
>The boy thought a moment and then said,
>"Did God throw him back down?"
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>A wife invited some people to dinner.  At the table, she turned to their

>six-year-old daughter and said, "Would you like to say the blessing?"
>"I wouldn't know what to say," the girl replied.
>"Just say what you hear Mommy say," the wife answered.
>The daughter bowed her head and said, "Lord, why on earth did I invite
all
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Date:         Thu, 26 Aug 2004 12:42:08 -0400
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Okay you guys, I think that the bath tub is here to stay this time.  At
least it's off the truck and in the house.  Perhaps I should have waited
until it was secured, but you know me, I have to let you guys in on the
nitty gritty details!  If it leafes again, I'll let you know.
Kathy

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Date:         Thu, 26 Aug 2004 13:15:54 -0400
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Okay guys, the bathtub is secured in place.  If they want it back now,
they'll have to fight me for it!  Wow, the surround and the tub are all
one piece so it took about twenty minutes to skrew in place.  We're
actually getting two bathtubs.  The one that was installed is for the
hall bathroom, the one that the kids will use.  Technicly, my bathtub
hasn't arrived yet.
Kathy

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Great, Kathy!

Now just see if you can control yourself to stay out of the tub!  That may
not keep them from removing it again.  They'll just take you with it!  LOL!

Helen


Earlier, Kathy Du Bois wrote:
>Okay you guys, I think that the bath tub is here to stay this time.  At
>least it's off the truck and in the house.  Perhaps I should have waited
>until it was secured, but you know me, I have to let you guys in on the
>nitty gritty details!  If it leafes again, I'll let you know.
>Kathy
>
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It's good to hear news, Sandy, and I trust the break will mend well.  He
has age on his side and obviously that will help!


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Subject: Update on Taylor.


I would like to thank everyone for praying for Taylor.  He had a doctor
appointment and the fracture is healing very well.  He still has a long
cast on. They considered placing a short cast but the break was rather
severe so thought against it.

Sandy

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Your right Kathy.  Coke is the real thing.


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> Vicki, Pepsi, oh no, it's coke all the way, or, if you insist on partying
> at my house, being in Maine, you'll all have to try a sip of moxy!
> Yes, there really is a soft drink here in Maine called Moxy!
> Kathy
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All right Kathy I like it.


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> Oh Brad,
> I do hope that you are waiting on her hand and foot! This is a situation
> ripe with browny points for you if you play it right! GRIN! I hope that
> she is feeling better real soon. Perhaps you could use this injury as an
> excuse to get a hot tub! Hey, could insurance help with that right now?
> Hmmmm!
> Kathy
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All right Kathy I like it. <BR><BR>
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She could wait and buy and make them when she gets there.

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> That does it! I vote that we move the party to Pat's house! I want to
> save her the expense of the truck rental that she would need to endure to
> get all those salads to Maine. Yum!
> Kathy
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Date:         Thu, 26 Aug 2004 14:40:03 -0400
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Good news! poor little guy, hope it isn't too hot there!  maybe some
icecream would make him feel better!
Rhonda
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Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 12:14 PM
Subject: Update on Taylor.


> I would like to thank everyone for praying for Taylor.  He had a doctor
> appointment and the fracture is healing very well.  He still has a long
cast
> on. They considered placing a short cast but the break was rather severe
so
> thought against it.
>
> Sandy
>
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Date:         Thu, 26 Aug 2004 13:09:19 -0600
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Kathy,

I hope your personal bathtub shows up sooner rather than later.

Phil.
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I slept for five and a half hours straight last night for the first time in
a very long time.  I had to get up then because I drank a can of pop before
going to bed so you know what that means.  Otherwise, I wouldn't have been
surprised if I had gone 7 hours straight.  In fact, I was so wide awake at
5:30, it took me a good 30 minutes, or more, to go back to sleep.  I was
tempted to stay up because I felt so good.  Unfortunately, I can't remember
dreaming.  I could make one up, however, for those interested in my dreams.
It also took a little adjusting during the night but it was much better than
in the hospital and the dream machine is also very quiet.  So, now that I am
not afraid of it, I am sure I will get better use out of it.  With the
larger mask over my mouth and nose, and the hose running from it out the
front and over to my night stand, I rather feel like I am flying a jet
fighter so that's what I pretend I am doing while going to sleep.  I've
always wanted to be a fighter pilot anyhow.  I have a sleep tape I made once
that sounds like a jet flying fast and high.  Maybe I should get that out
and listen to it at night.  I have also figured out that I can use the hose,
since it is six feet long, to rope round Sandy to keep her closer to me at
night.  It works well for that, too.

Phil.
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Date:         Thu, 26 Aug 2004 13:33:17 -0600
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I forget who mentioned that recently, that is, about Sandy and I
communicating over the net.  If you think our public echurch messages are
something, you should see some of our private emails.  Perhaps I will
forward one or two of them to echurch.

Phil.
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Date:         Thu, 26 Aug 2004 15:35:04 -0400
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You guys,
You won't believe this, but somebody just stopped by to look at our
mobile home!  OUT OF THE BLUE!!  I have know idea where this is headed.
I'm just shocked that it happened.  I gave them the tour, knife slashes
in the kitchen floor and patched holes in the wall from chris and all.
Thank the Lord that I vacuumed yesterday at least.  Wow!  I wasn't
expecting that one.
Kathy

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Date:         Thu, 26 Aug 2004 15:32:11 -0400
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Phillip, Are you implying that I need a bath?  You could be in trouble if
your reply isn't the right one!  You've been warned! GRIN!
Kathy

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Date:         Thu, 26 Aug 2004 15:41:13 -0400
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LOL, Phil!  Poor Sandy!  Getting roped in like that!  You wouldn't have to
use that on her if you would just be sweet, kind, affectionate, loving,
attentive all of the time, not just at bedtime.  <Smile>
Seriously, I am glad the machine is working well for you so far, and pray
that will continue and get even better.  Good sleep is so important for
physical health, as well as for emotional health.  Keeps us from having the
grumpies so much.

Love,
Helen

Earlier, Phil Scovell wrote:
>I slept for five and a half hours straight last night for the first time in
>a very long time.  I had to get up then because I drank a can of pop before
>going to bed so you know what that means.  Otherwise, I wouldn't have been
>surprised if I had gone 7 hours straight.  In fact, I was so wide awake at
>5:30, it took me a good 30 minutes, or more, to go back to sleep.  I was
>tempted to stay up because I felt so good.  Unfortunately, I can't remember
>dreaming.  I could make one up, however, for those interested in my dreams.
>It also took a little adjusting during the night but it was much better than
>in the hospital and the dream machine is also very quiet.  So, now that I am
>not afraid of it, I am sure I will get better use out of it.  With the
>larger mask over my mouth and nose, and the hose running from it out the
>front and over to my night stand, I rather feel like I am flying a jet
>fighter so that's what I pretend I am doing while going to sleep.  I've
>always wanted to be a fighter pilot anyhow.  I have a sleep tape I made once
>that sounds like a jet flying fast and high.  Maybe I should get that out
>and listen to it at night.  I have also figured out that I can use the hose,
>since it is six feet long, to rope round Sandy to keep her closer to me at
>night.  It works well for that, too.
>
>Phil.
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Date:         Thu, 26 Aug 2004 15:42:19 -0400
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No fair forwarding without her permission.  A word to the wise..........

Helen

Earlier, Phil Scovell wrote:
>I forget who mentioned that recently, that is, about Sandy and I
>communicating over the net.  If you think our public echurch messages are
>something, you should see some of our private emails.  Perhaps I will
>forward one or two of them to echurch.
>
>Phil.
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Date:         Thu, 26 Aug 2004 15:44:05 -0400
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Kathy, just stand by and watch what great things God is doing on your
behalf!  Isn't it exciting?  Isn't He exciting!?

Helen

Earlier, Kathy Du Bois wrote:
>You guys,
>You won't believe this, but somebody just stopped by to look at our
>mobile home!  OUT OF THE BLUE!!  I have know idea where this is headed.
>I'm just shocked that it happened.  I gave them the tour, knife slashes
>in the kitchen floor and patched holes in the wall from chris and all.
>Thank the Lord that I vacuumed yesterday at least.  Wow!  I wasn't
>expecting that one.
>Kathy
>
>________________________________________________________________
>The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!
>Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!
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Date:         Thu, 26 Aug 2004 14:11:03 -0600
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Maybe God Wears A Cowboy Hat


By Phil Scovell




     I rode horses a great deal as a kid growing up in Iowa.
Most summer weekends I spent Saturdays at a friend's home just
outside of Des Moines and we spent most of the day either fishing
in the creek or on the back of a horse.  Additionally, my father
was a country preacher.  He often drove 50 and 60 miles into
farming communities on Sundays and ministered in churches too
small to afford a full time pastor.  His family, of course,
generally went along and since these were mostly farming
communities, there were lots of horses to ride.  I didn't care if
there was a saddle or I rode bareback; I just loved being on a
horse.  In light of all of this horseback riding, I never
considered myself a cowboy.  I especially hated wearing hats and
never did wear them.

     When I moved to Colorado, my first job was standing on my
feet all day.  By evening, I could hardly walk.  My employer kept
telling me, "Buy cowboy boots."  I had no interest in cowboy boots
whatsoever and I told him so.  He said, "So, then, let your feet
hurt."

     One day, in total agony, I said to my boss, "Would you please
go with me after work and help me pick out boots?  I know nothing
about them."  He did so.  I wore my new boots for a couple of days
and then went back to shoes.  I couldn't even walk down a flight
of stairs with my boots on without tripping and falling half way
down the steps.  I was never going to get used to wearing boots
and I knew it.

     Two weeks later, I was complaining to my boss one day about
how terrible my feet hurt.  He told me it was my own fault for
not wearing the cowboy boots.  I explained I couldn't even walk in
them and didn't think I could get used to them.  He said, "Look.
Put the boots on and wear them until you get over the
psychological hang up you have about wearing them.  Don't give
up."  I took his advice simply due to the pain my feet were
suffering.  Two weeks went by and I was 100 percent sold on
wearing cowboy boots.  It is all I have worn for well over thirty
years now.

     Recently, I was in need of some new clothes.  I had been
putting off buying new cowboy boots for over three years because
boots aren't cheap even if they do last many years beyond any
type of shoes.  So, I was going to buy some new clothes and new
boots and my mind was made up.

     The day before my purchase, I was thinking about going out
and buying the clothes.  I hate shopping and especially for
clothes but it had to be done.  As I considered what I needed and
what I was going to buy and how much I would spend on boots, I
heard a small voice say, "Buy a hat."

     I immediately said, "What?  I hate all hats," and waited for
the Holy Spirit to continue.  He said nothing.  I still waited.
He still didn't continue.

     Unfortunately, I knew He was referring to a cowboy hat.
Finally I said, "Lord, why do you want me to buy a hat?"  I was
almost in tears at the thought of wearing a stupid cowboy hat.  As
a blind person, hats always bothered my ability to hear well
omnidirectionally and I just didn't like hats.  I didn't even like
them, nor did I wear them, when I could see.

     Finally, as I waited, the Lord said, "Because you are
different now."

     "Hold the phone there, Lord!  What in the world does that
have to do with buying, and wearing I might add, a dumb cowboy
hat?  I'm not even a cowboy.  I don't own a horse.  The last time
I rode a horse, my bottom hurt for a week.  I'm not a cowboy!  I
couldn't toss a rope if my life depended upon it."

     All these things could have easily come to mind and I was
tempted to let them come tumbling out in rebuttal but due to prior
experience with such arguments with God, I refrained.  Why?
Because I am learning to listen to the voice of the Holy Spirit.
I knew exactly what He meant when He said, "Because you are
different now."  The hat isn't important; my obedience to His Word
is.  In other words, it was a test to see if I would obey.

     You should have seen my youngest son and my wife when I said,
after picking out the black cowboy boots I wanted, "Now I want to
go look at the hats."  They nearly left me standing alone in the
store.  My wife even said more than once, "Why are you buying a
cowboy hat?"  I kept saying the same thing; "I don't know."  That
wasn't true, of course, because I knew exactly why I was buying a
hundred dollar cowboy hat; because Jesus told me to.  Admitting
that publicly, however, was a little difficult.

     So now, every time I leave my house, I am wearing a nice
black cowboy hat.  People laugh and say, "I can't believe what I
am seeing."  I just smile and climb in their car just like I have
always worn a cowboy hat and boots.  No, I tell very few people
why I wear a cowboy hat because, like you, they wouldn't believe
me if I told them.  So I just wear my hat and every time I do, it
puts a smile on my face, joy in my heart, and praise to my God for
caring about me so much, He even tells me what to wear.  It is
like a rancher friend of mind has always said, "God makes a pretty
good cowboy."  I'm beginning to believe, God might also wear a
cowboy hat.  Go ahead and laugh all you want but wait until it
happens to you some day.  Then it will be my turn to chuckle.


I Flew Kites With Jesus
www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
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Sold.

Phil.
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and I'm sure Sandy's dreams are of a swimer grasping for a rope?


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From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 1:31 PM
Subject: The Dream Machine


> I slept for five and a half hours straight last night for the first time
in
> a very long time.  I had to get up then because I drank a can of pop
before
> going to bed so you know what that means.  Otherwise, I wouldn't have been
> surprised if I had gone 7 hours straight.  In fact, I was so wide awake at
> 5:30, it took me a good 30 minutes, or more, to go back to sleep.  I was
> tempted to stay up because I felt so good.  Unfortunately, I can't
remember
> dreaming.  I could make one up, however, for those interested in my
dreams.
> It also took a little adjusting during the night but it was much better
than
> in the hospital and the dream machine is also very quiet.  So, now that I
am
> not afraid of it, I am sure I will get better use out of it.  With the
> larger mask over my mouth and nose, and the hose running from it out the
> front and over to my night stand, I rather feel like I am flying a jet
> fighter so that's what I pretend I am doing while going to sleep.  I've
> always wanted to be a fighter pilot anyhow.  I have a sleep tape I made
once
> that sounds like a jet flying fast and high.  Maybe I should get that out
> and listen to it at night.  I have also figured out that I can use the
hose,
> since it is six feet long, to rope round Sandy to keep her closer to me at
> night.  It works well for that, too.
>
> Phil.
>
>
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Date:         Thu, 26 Aug 2004 14:18:48 -0600
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Kathy,

For crying in the new bathtub.  Who do you think you and Greg are working
for anyhow?  Selling a mobile home is nothing for Him.  Stop being so
surprised.  I noticed the floor needed slweeping but didn't want to mention
it.  Thank the Lord you vaccumed.  Of course, that's the first thing I look
at when buying a home.

Phil.
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Date:         Thu, 26 Aug 2004 15:25:52 -0500
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Kathy,

I like those 1 piece bath tubs with the surround for the shower. We had to
put a 2 piece in up here in our bathroom up stairs, because once the walls
are built and finished, one can't get a one piece outfit in most bathrooms.
lol Not only that, but it would have been interesting carying a one piece
up stairs. lol

Did they put the plaster or morter on the floor first?

They do that so it doesn't move when you get in it to take a bath or
shower. lol

They either pour plaster or use morter, and put plastic on top and then set
the tub in it so it forms to the tub, then they remove the tub and the
plastic so it hardens. After it has hardened, they set the tub back on it.

Neither VErnon or Dean did it right, and the plaster did not harden. Next
time, we'll use morter instead of plaster.

I would really love to have that party! lol

Couldn't you see us finishing your house! lol

Well, Vernon and Brad would be with us, so you know it would be done right
if the contracters weren't there. lol

Do you know they put a toilet up in our attic? I'mnot talking about a
bathroom, but an old toilet, because they were too lazy to get rid of it.
Just like they did everything else they threw in the bacement. We're still
halling out junk.

Today Vernon is playing electrition. lol He's wiring plug-ins and putting
in the wiring for the attic fan upstairs.

I pray they finish your house soon! I want to see it! lol

Love and Blessings,
Pat Ferguson
At 12:15 PM 8/26/04, you wrote:
>Okay guys, the bathtub is secured in place.  If they want it back now,
>they'll have to fight me for it!  Wow, the surround and the tub are all
>one piece so it took about twenty minutes to skrew in place.  We're
>actually getting two bathtubs.  The one that was installed is for the
>hall bathroom, the one that the kids will use.  Technicly, my bathtub
>hasn't arrived yet.
>Kathy
>
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Karen,

That's an excellent idea. I can make the salads at Kathy's house! Besides
that, we can iniciate her house! lol. Kathy, you better have a dish washer. lol

Lovings!
Pat



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>She could wait and buy and make them when she gets there.
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>--
>In any kind of circumstance PRAY
>
>Karen Carter 74'
>
>
>-------------- Original message --------------
>
> > That does it! I vote that we move the party to Pat's house! I want to
> > save her the expense of the truck rental that she would need to endure to
> > get all those salads to Maine. Yum!
> > Kathy
> >
> > ________________________________________________________________
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> > Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!
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>She could wait and buy and make them when she gets there.
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>
>Karen Carter 74'
>
>-------------- Original message --------------
>
> > That does it! I vote that we move the party to Pat's house! I want to
> > save her the expense of the truck rental that she would need to endure to
> > get all those salads to Maine. Yum!
> > Kathy
> >
> > ________________________________________________________________
> > The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!
> > Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!
> > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!
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Karen,<br><br>
That's an excellent idea. I can make the salads at Kathy's house! Besides
that, we can iniciate her house! lol. Kathy, you better have a dish
washer. lol<br><br>
Lovings!<br>
Pat<br><br>
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She could wait and buy and make them when she gets there.<br><br>
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&gt; That does it! I vote that we move the party to Pat's house! I want
to<br>
&gt; save her the expense of the truck rental that she would need to
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&gt; get all those salads to Maine. Yum!<br>
&gt; Kathy<br>
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She could wait and buy and make them when she gets there. <br>
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I'm not laughing smiling but not laughing because those who laugh usually
end up getting laughed at later


Lelia Struve email [log in to unmask] msn [log in to unmask]
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Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 2:11 PM
Subject: My New Cowboy Hat


> Maybe God Wears A Cowboy Hat
>
>
> By Phil Scovell
>
>
>
>
>      I rode horses a great deal as a kid growing up in Iowa.
> Most summer weekends I spent Saturdays at a friend's home just
> outside of Des Moines and we spent most of the day either fishing
> in the creek or on the back of a horse.  Additionally, my father
> was a country preacher.  He often drove 50 and 60 miles into
> farming communities on Sundays and ministered in churches too
> small to afford a full time pastor.  His family, of course,
> generally went along and since these were mostly farming
> communities, there were lots of horses to ride.  I didn't care if
> there was a saddle or I rode bareback; I just loved being on a
> horse.  In light of all of this horseback riding, I never
> considered myself a cowboy.  I especially hated wearing hats and
> never did wear them.
>
>      When I moved to Colorado, my first job was standing on my
> feet all day.  By evening, I could hardly walk.  My employer kept
> telling me, "Buy cowboy boots."  I had no interest in cowboy boots
> whatsoever and I told him so.  He said, "So, then, let your feet
> hurt."
>
>      One day, in total agony, I said to my boss, "Would you please
> go with me after work and help me pick out boots?  I know nothing
> about them."  He did so.  I wore my new boots for a couple of days
> and then went back to shoes.  I couldn't even walk down a flight
> of stairs with my boots on without tripping and falling half way
> down the steps.  I was never going to get used to wearing boots
> and I knew it.
>
>      Two weeks later, I was complaining to my boss one day about
> how terrible my feet hurt.  He told me it was my own fault for
> not wearing the cowboy boots.  I explained I couldn't even walk in
> them and didn't think I could get used to them.  He said, "Look.
> Put the boots on and wear them until you get over the
> psychological hang up you have about wearing them.  Don't give
> up."  I took his advice simply due to the pain my feet were
> suffering.  Two weeks went by and I was 100 percent sold on
> wearing cowboy boots.  It is all I have worn for well over thirty
> years now.
>
>      Recently, I was in need of some new clothes.  I had been
> putting off buying new cowboy boots for over three years because
> boots aren't cheap even if they do last many years beyond any
> type of shoes.  So, I was going to buy some new clothes and new
> boots and my mind was made up.
>
>      The day before my purchase, I was thinking about going out
> and buying the clothes.  I hate shopping and especially for
> clothes but it had to be done.  As I considered what I needed and
> what I was going to buy and how much I would spend on boots, I
> heard a small voice say, "Buy a hat."
>
>      I immediately said, "What?  I hate all hats," and waited for
> the Holy Spirit to continue.  He said nothing.  I still waited.
> He still didn't continue.
>
>      Unfortunately, I knew He was referring to a cowboy hat.
> Finally I said, "Lord, why do you want me to buy a hat?"  I was
> almost in tears at the thought of wearing a stupid cowboy hat.  As
> a blind person, hats always bothered my ability to hear well
> omnidirectionally and I just didn't like hats.  I didn't even like
> them, nor did I wear them, when I could see.
>
>      Finally, as I waited, the Lord said, "Because you are
> different now."
>
>      "Hold the phone there, Lord!  What in the world does that
> have to do with buying, and wearing I might add, a dumb cowboy
> hat?  I'm not even a cowboy.  I don't own a horse.  The last time
> I rode a horse, my bottom hurt for a week.  I'm not a cowboy!  I
> couldn't toss a rope if my life depended upon it."
>
>      All these things could have easily come to mind and I was
> tempted to let them come tumbling out in rebuttal but due to prior
> experience with such arguments with God, I refrained.  Why?
> Because I am learning to listen to the voice of the Holy Spirit.
> I knew exactly what He meant when He said, "Because you are
> different now."  The hat isn't important; my obedience to His Word
> is.  In other words, it was a test to see if I would obey.
>
>      You should have seen my youngest son and my wife when I said,
> after picking out the black cowboy boots I wanted, "Now I want to
> go look at the hats."  They nearly left me standing alone in the
> store.  My wife even said more than once, "Why are you buying a
> cowboy hat?"  I kept saying the same thing; "I don't know."  That
> wasn't true, of course, because I knew exactly why I was buying a
> hundred dollar cowboy hat; because Jesus told me to.  Admitting
> that publicly, however, was a little difficult.
>
>      So now, every time I leave my house, I am wearing a nice
> black cowboy hat.  People laugh and say, "I can't believe what I
> am seeing."  I just smile and climb in their car just like I have
> always worn a cowboy hat and boots.  No, I tell very few people
> why I wear a cowboy hat because, like you, they wouldn't believe
> me if I told them.  So I just wear my hat and every time I do, it
> puts a smile on my face, joy in my heart, and praise to my God for
> caring about me so much, He even tells me what to wear.  It is
> like a rancher friend of mind has always said, "God makes a pretty
> good cowboy."  I'm beginning to believe, God might also wear a
> cowboy hat.  Go ahead and laugh all you want but wait until it
> happens to you some day.  Then it will be my turn to chuckle.
>
>
> I Flew Kites With Jesus
> www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
>
>
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Phil,

I can identify with some of that and enjoyed this one!


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Date:         Thu, 26 Aug 2004 17:24:01 -0400
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Phil,
I'm not sure that my  computer could take the heat!
Kathy

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Date:         Thu, 26 Aug 2004 16:27:22 -0500
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Kathy,

Hey! Hmm. I never thought of reaping brownie points off of this lil mishap.
Perhaps now would be a good time to get that Taylor acoustic guitar I've
always wanted. Hmmm. Yes. I can see it now. And, to even put a lil
insurance policy on it, I could promise to serenade her while she lounges
on the sofa. Yes yes yes. Thanks for the devious inspiration. Friends sure
know how to cheer a person up lol.

Brad


Kathy Du Bois wrote:
>Oh Brad,
>I do hope that you are waiting on her hand and foot!  This is a situation
>ripe with browny points for you if you play it right!  GRIN!  I hope that
>she is feeling better real soon.  Perhaps you could use this injury as an
>excuse to get a hot tub!  Hey, could insurance help with that right now?
>Hmmmm!
>Kathy
>
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   It's all right to sit on your pity pot every now and again.
  Just be sure to flush when you are done.
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Date:         Thu, 26 Aug 2004 17:34:01 -0400
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Yes Pat, I'm going to have my very first  dish washer! Kathy

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Date:         Thu, 26 Aug 2004 17:33:14 -0400
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Well Pat,
When Greg got home we went out to look at the bathtub and now I know why
the plumber stopped working.  The drain goes down to a joist.  I don't
know if he'll cut a hole through the joist or make one of the carpenders
come and do it, but the plans missed by about three inches.  At this
point, I'm starting to think that Brad and Vernon would do it better and
faster.
Kathy

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Date:         Thu, 26 Aug 2004 17:37:40 -0400
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Phiil said,
Sold.

Phil.

Only if it's his will!

Kathy

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Date:         Thu, 26 Aug 2004 15:46:35 -0600
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Philip, no one will be interested in any made up dreams.

Sandy
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From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 1:31 PM
Subject: The Dream Machine


> I slept for five and a half hours straight last night for the first time
in
> a very long time.  I had to get up then because I drank a can of pop
before
> going to bed so you know what that means.  Otherwise, I wouldn't have been
> surprised if I had gone 7 hours straight.  In fact, I was so wide awake at
> 5:30, it took me a good 30 minutes, or more, to go back to sleep.  I was
> tempted to stay up because I felt so good.  Unfortunately, I can't
remember
> dreaming.  I could make one up, however, for those interested in my
dreams.
> It also took a little adjusting during the night but it was much better
than
> in the hospital and the dream machine is also very quiet.  So, now that I
am
> not afraid of it, I am sure I will get better use out of it.  With the
> larger mask over my mouth and nose, and the hose running from it out the
> front and over to my night stand, I rather feel like I am flying a jet
> fighter so that's what I pretend I am doing while going to sleep.  I've
> always wanted to be a fighter pilot anyhow.  I have a sleep tape I made
once
> that sounds like a jet flying fast and high.  Maybe I should get that out
> and listen to it at night.  I have also figured out that I can use the
hose,
> since it is six feet long, to rope round Sandy to keep her closer to me at
> night.  It works well for that, too.
>
> Phil.
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Date:         Thu, 26 Aug 2004 15:47:59 -0600
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Philip people wouldn't be interested in those messages either.

Sandy
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Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 1:33 PM
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> I forget who mentioned that recently, that is, about Sandy and I
> communicating over the net.  If you think our public echurch messages are
> something, you should see some of our private emails.  Perhaps I will
> forward one or two of them to echurch.
>
> Phil.
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Brad,
If you want a new guitar out of this, you'd better offer some foot
massages, meals on wheels, complete surrender  of the remote control and
it wouldn't hurt to offer to comb her hair a few times too, along with
the music!  Don't forget the candles and a nice little get well gift
wouldn't hurt either.  I'm just trying to help you get that guitar, Brad.
Kathy

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Date:         Thu, 26 Aug 2004 16:14:33 -0500
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Phil,

That's great you are wearing a cowboy hat now.

Don't worry about what others think. The Lord told you to do it, that's cool!

Love and Blessings,
Pat Ferguson
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>From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 2:11 PM
>Subject: My New Cowboy Hat
>
>
> > Maybe God Wears A Cowboy Hat
> >
> >
> > By Phil Scovell
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >      I rode horses a great deal as a kid growing up in Iowa.
> > Most summer weekends I spent Saturdays at a friend's home just
> > outside of Des Moines and we spent most of the day either fishing
> > in the creek or on the back of a horse.  Additionally, my father
> > was a country preacher.  He often drove 50 and 60 miles into
> > farming communities on Sundays and ministered in churches too
> > small to afford a full time pastor.  His family, of course,
> > generally went along and since these were mostly farming
> > communities, there were lots of horses to ride.  I didn't care if
> > there was a saddle or I rode bareback; I just loved being on a
> > horse.  In light of all of this horseback riding, I never
> > considered myself a cowboy.  I especially hated wearing hats and
> > never did wear them.
> >
> >      When I moved to Colorado, my first job was standing on my
> > feet all day.  By evening, I could hardly walk.  My employer kept
> > telling me, "Buy cowboy boots."  I had no interest in cowboy boots
> > whatsoever and I told him so.  He said, "So, then, let your feet
> > hurt."
> >
> >      One day, in total agony, I said to my boss, "Would you please
> > go with me after work and help me pick out boots?  I know nothing
> > about them."  He did so.  I wore my new boots for a couple of days
> > and then went back to shoes.  I couldn't even walk down a flight
> > of stairs with my boots on without tripping and falling half way
> > down the steps.  I was never going to get used to wearing boots
> > and I knew it.
> >
> >      Two weeks later, I was complaining to my boss one day about
> > how terrible my feet hurt.  He told me it was my own fault for
> > not wearing the cowboy boots.  I explained I couldn't even walk in
> > them and didn't think I could get used to them.  He said, "Look.
> > Put the boots on and wear them until you get over the
> > psychological hang up you have about wearing them.  Don't give
> > up."  I took his advice simply due to the pain my feet were
> > suffering.  Two weeks went by and I was 100 percent sold on
> > wearing cowboy boots.  It is all I have worn for well over thirty
> > years now.
> >
> >      Recently, I was in need of some new clothes.  I had been
> > putting off buying new cowboy boots for over three years because
> > boots aren't cheap even if they do last many years beyond any
> > type of shoes.  So, I was going to buy some new clothes and new
> > boots and my mind was made up.
> >
> >      The day before my purchase, I was thinking about going out
> > and buying the clothes.  I hate shopping and especially for
> > clothes but it had to be done.  As I considered what I needed and
> > what I was going to buy and how much I would spend on boots, I
> > heard a small voice say, "Buy a hat."
> >
> >      I immediately said, "What?  I hate all hats," and waited for
> > the Holy Spirit to continue.  He said nothing.  I still waited.
> > He still didn't continue.
> >
> >      Unfortunately, I knew He was referring to a cowboy hat.
> > Finally I said, "Lord, why do you want me to buy a hat?"  I was
> > almost in tears at the thought of wearing a stupid cowboy hat.  As
> > a blind person, hats always bothered my ability to hear well
> > omnidirectionally and I just didn't like hats.  I didn't even like
> > them, nor did I wear them, when I could see.
> >
> >      Finally, as I waited, the Lord said, "Because you are
> > different now."
> >
> >      "Hold the phone there, Lord!  What in the world does that
> > have to do with buying, and wearing I might add, a dumb cowboy
> > hat?  I'm not even a cowboy.  I don't own a horse.  The last time
> > I rode a horse, my bottom hurt for a week.  I'm not a cowboy!  I
> > couldn't toss a rope if my life depended upon it."
> >
> >      All these things could have easily come to mind and I was
> > tempted to let them come tumbling out in rebuttal but due to prior
> > experience with such arguments with God, I refrained.  Why?
> > Because I am learning to listen to the voice of the Holy Spirit.
> > I knew exactly what He meant when He said, "Because you are
> > different now."  The hat isn't important; my obedience to His Word
> > is.  In other words, it was a test to see if I would obey.
> >
> >      You should have seen my youngest son and my wife when I said,
> > after picking out the black cowboy boots I wanted, "Now I want to
> > go look at the hats."  They nearly left me standing alone in the
> > store.  My wife even said more than once, "Why are you buying a
> > cowboy hat?"  I kept saying the same thing; "I don't know."  That
> > wasn't true, of course, because I knew exactly why I was buying a
> > hundred dollar cowboy hat; because Jesus told me to.  Admitting
> > that publicly, however, was a little difficult.
> >
> >      So now, every time I leave my house, I am wearing a nice
> > black cowboy hat.  People laugh and say, "I can't believe what I
> > am seeing."  I just smile and climb in their car just like I have
> > always worn a cowboy hat and boots.  No, I tell very few people
> > why I wear a cowboy hat because, like you, they wouldn't believe
> > me if I told them.  So I just wear my hat and every time I do, it
> > puts a smile on my face, joy in my heart, and praise to my God for
> > caring about me so much, He even tells me what to wear.  It is
> > like a rancher friend of mind has always said, "God makes a pretty
> > good cowboy."  I'm beginning to believe, God might also wear a
> > cowboy hat.  Go ahead and laugh all you want but wait until it
> > happens to you some day.  Then it will be my turn to chuckle.
> >
> >
> > I Flew Kites With Jesus
> > www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
> >
> >
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Why in the heck did my message come out that way? lol

Lovings!
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>Karen,
>
>That's an excellent idea. I can make the salads at Kathy's house! Besides
>that, we can iniciate her house! lol. Kathy, you better have a dish
>washer. lol
>
>Lovings!
>Pat
>
>
>
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> >She could wait and buy and make them when she gets there.
> >
> >--
> >In any kind of circumstance PRAY
> >
> >Karen Carter 74'
> >
> >
> >-------------- Original message --------------
> >
> > > That does it! I vote that we move the party to Pat's house! I want to
> > > save her the expense of the truck rental that she would need to endure to
> > > get all those salads to Maine. Yum!
> > > Kathy
> > >
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> >
> > > That does it! I vote that we move the party to Pat's house! I want to
> > > save her the expense of the truck rental that she would need to endure to
> > > get all those salads to Maine. Yum!
> > > Kathy
> > >
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>Karen,
>
>That's an excellent idea. I can make the salads at Kathy's house! Besides
>that, we can iniciate her house! lol. Kathy, you better have a dish washer. lol
>
>Lovings!
>Pat
>
>
>
>At 01:07 PM 8/26/04, you wrote:
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>>She could wait and buy and make them when she gets there.
>>
>>--
>>In any kind of circumstance PRAY
>>
>>Karen Carter 74'
>>
>>
>>-------------- Original message --------------
>>
>> > That does it! I vote that we move the party to Pat's house! I want to
>> > save her the expense of the truck rental that she would need to endure to
>> > get all those salads to Maine. Yum!
>> > Kathy
>> >
>> > ________________________________________________________________
>> > The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!
>> > Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!
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>>She could wait and buy and make them when she gets there.
>>--
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>>
>>Karen Carter 74'
>>
>>-------------- Original message --------------
>>
>> > That does it! I vote that we move the party to Pat's house! I want to
>> > save her the expense of the truck rental that she would need to endure to
>> > get all those salads to Maine. Yum!
>> > Kathy
>> >
>> > ________________________________________________________________
>> > The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!
>> > Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!
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Why in the heck did my message come out that way? lol<br><br>
Lovings!<br>
Pat<br>
At 03:30 PM 8/26/04, you wrote:<br>
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Karen,<br><br>
That's an excellent idea. I can make the salads at Kathy's house!
Besides<br>
that, we can iniciate her house! lol. Kathy, you better have a dish
washer. lol<br><br>
Lovings!<br>
Pat<br><br>
<br><br>
At 01:07 PM 8/26/04, you wrote:<br>
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&gt;She could wait and buy and make them when she gets there.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;--<br>
&gt;In any kind of circumstance PRAY<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;Karen Carter 74'<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;-------------- Original message --------------<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; That does it! I vote that we move the party to Pat's house! I
want to<br>
&gt; &gt; save her the expense of the truck rental that she would need to
endure to<br>
&gt; &gt; get all those salads to Maine. Yum!<br>
&gt; &gt; Kathy<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;
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&gt;She could wait and buy and make them when she gets there.<br>
&gt;--<br>
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&gt;<br>
&gt;Karen Carter 74'<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;-------------- Original message --------------<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; That does it! I vote that we move the party to Pat's house! I
want to<br>
&gt; &gt; save her the expense of the truck rental that she would need to
endure to<br>
&gt; &gt; get all those salads to Maine. Yum!<br>
&gt; &gt; Kathy<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;
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Karen,<br><br>
That's an excellent idea. I can make the salads at Kathy's house! Besides
that, we can iniciate her house! lol. Kathy, you better have a dish
washer. lol<br><br>
Lovings!<br>
Pat<br><br>
<br><br>
At 01:07 PM 8/26/04, you wrote:<br>
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She could wait and buy and make them when she gets there.<br><br>
--<br>
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Karen Carter 74'<br><br>
<br>
-------------- Original message --------------<br><br>
&gt; That does it! I vote that we move the party to Pat's house! I want
to<br>
&gt; save her the expense of the truck rental that she would need to
endure to<br>
&gt; get all those salads to Maine. Yum!<br>
&gt; Kathy<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;
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&gt; Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!<br>
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She could wait and buy and make them when she gets there. <br>
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<dd>&gt; That does it! I vote that we move the party to Pat's house! I
want to
<dd>&gt; save her the expense of the truck rental that she would need to
endure to
<dd>&gt; get all those salads to Maine. Yum!
<dd>&gt; Kathy
<dd>&gt;
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Hmm. It isn't worth that. I think I'll let her scuffle about and get her
own dinner lol.

Brad


Kathy Du Bois wrote:
>Brad,
>If you want a new guitar out of this, you'd better offer some foot
>massages, meals on wheels, complete surrender  of the remote control and
>it wouldn't hurt to offer to comb her hair a few times too, along with
>the music!  Don't forget the candles and a nice little get well gift
>wouldn't hurt either.  I'm just trying to help you get that guitar, Brad.
>Kathy
>
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Hay great Kathy.  The Lord moves he knows when you will need to sale it.  Good luck.


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> You guys,
> You won't believe this, but somebody just stopped by to look at our
> mobile home! OUT OF THE BLUE!! I have know idea where this is headed.
> I'm just shocked that it happened. I gave them the tour, knife slashes
> in the kitchen floor and patched holes in the wall from chris and all.
> Thank the Lord that I vacuumed yesterday at least. Wow! I wasn't
> expecting that one.
> Kathy
>
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Hay great Kathy.&nbsp; The Lord moves he knows when you will need to sale it.&nbsp; Good luck. <BR><BR>
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Ah, Helen, welcome back.  You are a help to this list.

earlier, Helen, wrote:
>Good morning, E Church Family,
>
>I've been away for nearly a month, waiting on the Lord to bring healing to
>my spirit, which had been deeply wounded.  The healing is not complete as
>yet, because I have hindered the Lord by my own foolishness.  But I'm
>convicted of that, and am bringing an end to it so that the Lord may have
>the freedom He desires to answer my prayers for healing.  I know some of
>you have prayed for me, and for that I am deeply grateful.
>
>Looking forward to sweet fellowship with you in the Lord.
>
>Love and blessings,
>Helen

John

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Would I dare???

You should have heard Mike singing those cowboy songs to you, Phil!  We
then imagined you coming over to our church dressed that way . . ..
Well, that would be an eye opener for some, believe me!

I'll have to see you again soon to take a look at those shoes!  I never
did when I was there because I didn't know about them.  (A few things
you kept quiet, Hey!)


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I'm not laughing smiling but not laughing because those who laugh
usually end up getting laughed at later


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From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 2:11 PM
Subject: My New Cowboy Hat


> Maybe God Wears A Cowboy Hat
>
>
> By Phil Scovell
>
>
>
>
>      I rode horses a great deal as a kid growing up in Iowa. Most
> summer weekends I spent Saturdays at a friend's home just outside of
> Des Moines and we spent most of the day either fishing in the creek or

> on the back of a horse.  Additionally, my father was a country
> preacher.  He often drove 50 and 60 miles into farming communities on
> Sundays and ministered in churches too small to afford a full time
> pastor.  His family, of course, generally went along and since these
> were mostly farming communities, there were lots of horses to ride.  I

> didn't care if there was a saddle or I rode bareback; I just loved
> being on a horse.  In light of all of this horseback riding, I never
> considered myself a cowboy.  I especially hated wearing hats and
> never did wear them.
>
>      When I moved to Colorado, my first job was standing on my feet
> all day.  By evening, I could hardly walk.  My employer kept telling
> me, "Buy cowboy boots."  I had no interest in cowboy boots whatsoever
> and I told him so.  He said, "So, then, let your feet hurt."
>
>      One day, in total agony, I said to my boss, "Would you please go
> with me after work and help me pick out boots?  I know nothing about
> them."  He did so.  I wore my new boots for a couple of days and then
> went back to shoes.  I couldn't even walk down a flight of stairs with

> my boots on without tripping and falling half way down the steps.  I
> was never going to get used to wearing boots and I knew it.
>
>      Two weeks later, I was complaining to my boss one day about how
> terrible my feet hurt.  He told me it was my own fault for not wearing

> the cowboy boots.  I explained I couldn't even walk in them and didn't

> think I could get used to them.  He said, "Look. Put the boots on and
> wear them until you get over the psychological hang up you have about
> wearing them.  Don't give up."  I took his advice simply due to the
> pain my feet were suffering.  Two weeks went by and I was 100 percent
> sold on wearing cowboy boots.  It is all I have worn for well over
> thirty years now.
>
>      Recently, I was in need of some new clothes.  I had been putting
> off buying new cowboy boots for over three years because boots aren't
> cheap even if they do last many years beyond any type of shoes.  So, I

> was going to buy some new clothes and new boots and my mind was made
> up.
>
>      The day before my purchase, I was thinking about going out and
> buying the clothes.  I hate shopping and especially for clothes but it

> had to be done.  As I considered what I needed and what I was going to

> buy and how much I would spend on boots, I heard a small voice say,
> "Buy a hat."
>
>      I immediately said, "What?  I hate all hats," and waited for the
> Holy Spirit to continue.  He said nothing.  I still waited. He still
> didn't continue.
>
>      Unfortunately, I knew He was referring to a cowboy hat. Finally I

> said, "Lord, why do you want me to buy a hat?"  I was almost in tears
> at the thought of wearing a stupid cowboy hat.  As a blind person,
> hats always bothered my ability to hear well omnidirectionally and I
> just didn't like hats.  I didn't even like them, nor did I wear them,
> when I could see.
>
>      Finally, as I waited, the Lord said, "Because you are different
> now."
>
>      "Hold the phone there, Lord!  What in the world does that have to

> do with buying, and wearing I might add, a dumb cowboy hat?  I'm not
> even a cowboy.  I don't own a horse.  The last time I rode a horse, my

> bottom hurt for a week.  I'm not a cowboy!  I couldn't toss a rope if
> my life depended upon it."
>
>      All these things could have easily come to mind and I was tempted

> to let them come tumbling out in rebuttal but due to prior experience
> with such arguments with God, I refrained.  Why? Because I am learning

> to listen to the voice of the Holy Spirit. I knew exactly what He
> meant when He said, "Because you are different now."  The hat isn't
> important; my obedience to His Word is.  In other words, it was a test

> to see if I would obey.
>
>      You should have seen my youngest son and my wife when I said,
> after picking out the black cowboy boots I wanted, "Now I want to go
> look at the hats."  They nearly left me standing alone in the store.
> My wife even said more than once, "Why are you buying a cowboy hat?"
> I kept saying the same thing; "I don't know."  That wasn't true, of
> course, because I knew exactly why I was buying a hundred dollar
> cowboy hat; because Jesus told me to.  Admitting that publicly,
> however, was a little difficult.
>
>      So now, every time I leave my house, I am wearing a nice black
> cowboy hat.  People laugh and say, "I can't believe what I am seeing."

> I just smile and climb in their car just like I have always worn a
> cowboy hat and boots.  No, I tell very few people why I wear a cowboy
> hat because, like you, they wouldn't believe me if I told them.  So I
> just wear my hat and every time I do, it puts a smile on my face, joy
> in my heart, and praise to my God for caring about me so much, He even

> tells me what to wear.  It is like a rancher friend of mind has always

> said, "God makes a pretty good cowboy."  I'm beginning to believe, God

> might also wear a cowboy hat.  Go ahead and laugh all you want but
> wait until it happens to you some day.  Then it will be my turn to
> chuckle.
>
>
> I Flew Kites With Jesus
> www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
>
>

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No they won't, so make sure you tell them good so that we don't know if
they're made up or what!

Well, actually, we do!  We all know you too well!  <SMILE>


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Subject: Re: The Dream Machine


Philip, no one will be interested in any made up dreams.

Sandy
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Subject: The Dream Machine


> I slept for five and a half hours straight last night for the first
> time
in
> a very long time.  I had to get up then because I drank a can of pop
before
> going to bed so you know what that means.  Otherwise, I wouldn't have
> been surprised if I had gone 7 hours straight.  In fact, I was so wide

> awake at 5:30, it took me a good 30 minutes, or more, to go back to
> sleep.  I was tempted to stay up because I felt so good.
> Unfortunately, I can't
remember
> dreaming.  I could make one up, however, for those interested in my
dreams.
> It also took a little adjusting during the night but it was much
> better
than
> in the hospital and the dream machine is also very quiet.  So, now
> that I
am
> not afraid of it, I am sure I will get better use out of it.  With the

> larger mask over my mouth and nose, and the hose running from it out
> the front and over to my night stand, I rather feel like I am flying a

> jet fighter so that's what I pretend I am doing while going to sleep.

> I've always wanted to be a fighter pilot anyhow.  I have a sleep tape
> I made
once
> that sounds like a jet flying fast and high.  Maybe I should get that
> out and listen to it at night.  I have also figured out that I can use

> the
hose,
> since it is six feet long, to rope round Sandy to keep her closer to
> me at night.  It works well for that, too.
>
> Phil.

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Brad!  You're heartless!  GRIN!  Kathy

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Hey Helen,
I went out and climbed into the tub last night and it's pretty nice.  The
end opposit the faucet is inclined so that it is much more comfortable to
lay back and relax.  Our dog Honey climbed in for  a bit, but she doesn't
really like baths so, even a nonthreatening bathtub didn't appeal to her.
 Oh, I hope that the plumber comes back today to continue his work!
Kathy

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Date:         Fri, 27 Aug 2004 06:51:44 -0400
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Hey guys,
Just asking you to pray for Matt today.  His   job interview is in the
afternoon.  Also, he is going to the financial aid office today to learn
how much aid he will be receiving.  Please pray that the aid is generous
since we can't help him at all and it would be nice if he could
concentrate on his academics rather then needing to find as many jobs as
possible to pay the bills.
A concerned Mom, Kathy

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Date:         Fri, 27 Aug 2004 07:08:47 -0400
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Good morning, Kathy,

You are an early bird too!  LOL!  In the bathtub before the house is
finished!  Glad to know you didn't get hauled away in it!  Smile  Your dog
must me so attached to you that she would risk the water being turned on
her, something she hates to experience.  What a picture it conjurs up in my
mind.........Kathy and Honey in the tub together.  LOL!

I do pray that Matt will have a wonderfully successful interview for the
job this afternoon......that he will be calm and self-assured and trusting
in the Lord for the outcome.

Have another lovely day enjoying the building of your house.

Love,
Helen



Earlier, Kathy Du Bois wrote:
>Hey Helen,
>I went out and climbed into the tub last night and it's pretty nice.  The
>end opposit the faucet is inclined so that it is much more comfortable to
>lay back and relax.  Our dog Honey climbed in for  a bit, but she doesn't
>really like baths so, even a nonthreatening bathtub didn't appeal to her.
>  Oh, I hope that the plumber comes back today to continue his work!
>Kathy
>
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Date:         Fri, 27 Aug 2004 07:19:17 -0400
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Thanks for the welcome back, John.

Helen

Earlier, John Schwery wrote:
>Ah, Helen, welcome back.  You are a help to this list.
>
>earlier, Helen, wrote:
> >Good morning, E Church Family,
> >
> >I've been away for nearly a month, waiting on the Lord to bring healing to
> >my spirit, which had been deeply wounded.  The healing is not complete as
> >yet, because I have hindered the Lord by my own foolishness.  But I'm
> >convicted of that, and am bringing an end to it so that the Lord may have
> >the freedom He desires to answer my prayers for healing.  I know some of
> >you have prayed for me, and for that I am deeply grateful.
> >
> >Looking forward to sweet fellowship with you in the Lord.
> >
> >Love and blessings,
> >Helen
>
>John
>
>    I like publik educazion !
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Date:         Fri, 27 Aug 2004 07:24:16 -0400
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Concerned mom,
I was just praying this morning for Matt and the job.  Now, I am praying too
for him that he will receive the aid he needs to help him with his studies.

What is the plumber going to think or say when he finds dog har in the tub?

Ned
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Date:         Fri, 27 Aug 2004 08:12:19 -0400
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Hey Ned,
Interesting question!  Maybe he'll think that he should have gotten
around to finishing this earlier because the dog obviously needs a bath!
GRIN!  Oh, don't I wish!
Kathy

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Date:         Fri, 27 Aug 2004 08:13:55 -0400
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Hey Helen,
Well, it is the early bird that catches the worm.  I just need to figure
out what the worm is!  Thanks for your prayers!
Kathy

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Date:         Fri, 27 Aug 2004 07:10:38 -0600
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Amen will pray


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From: "Kathy Du Bois" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 4:51 AM
Subject: Matt's big day!


> Hey guys,
> Just asking you to pray for Matt today.  His   job interview is in the
> afternoon.  Also, he is going to the financial aid office today to learn
> how much aid he will be receiving.  Please pray that the aid is generous
> since we can't help him at all and it would be nice if he could
> concentrate on his academics rather then needing to find as many jobs as
> possible to pay the bills.
> A concerned Mom, Kathy
>
> ________________________________________________________________
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Date:         Fri, 27 Aug 2004 09:38:33 -0500
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Kathy,

I'm praying for Matt, that The Lord will provide the proper amount of
financial aid for him for his schooling. I pray that the job interview goes
well, and that he enjoys the job. I'm praying for his schooling, as well.

Praying for you and Greg.

Lovings!
Pat Ferguson



At 05:51 AM 8/27/04, you wrote:
>Hey guys,
>Just asking you to pray for Matt today.  His   job interview is in the
>afternoon.  Also, he is going to the financial aid office today to learn
>how much aid he will be receiving.  Please pray that the aid is generous
>since we can't help him at all and it would be nice if he could
>concentrate on his academics rather then needing to find as many jobs as
>possible to pay the bills.
>A concerned Mom, Kathy
>
>________________________________________________________________
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Date:         Fri, 27 Aug 2004 09:53:45 -0500
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Kathy,

No. Heartless would be scolding her and demanding to scuffle back to add
more cream to my coffee and telling her get it right the first time, but I
just drank it figuring she'd get it right next cup lol. Believe me, she is
being treated, well as best I can with trying to work and maintain house
chores along with my son. Ice cream n the sofa while watching DVD's, ice
packs on demand, drawing baths, wheelies to the restroom, supper, not much,
but supper nonetheless, etc. But vacation is over... lol, time to start
working out that leg a bit.

Brad

Kathy Du Bois wrote:
>Brad!  You're heartless!  GRIN!  Kathy
>
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   Hey, this isn't my tagline ! Who put it here ?
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Date:         Fri, 27 Aug 2004 12:21:57 -0400
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Wow Brad,  I'm sure that she is blossoming well under your loving care.
Maybe you'll get that guitar after all!
Kathy

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Date:         Fri, 27 Aug 2004 20:06:06 +0000
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I pray the Lord will provide all that Matt needs. In his precious name.  Amen.  I know he will.


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> Hey guys,
> Just asking you to pray for Matt today. His job interview is in the
> afternoon. Also, he is going to the financial aid office today to learn
> how much aid he will be receiving. Please pray that the aid is generous
> since we can't help him at all and it would be nice if he could
> concentrate on his academics rather then needing to find as many jobs as
> possible to pay the bills.
> A concerned Mom, Kathy
>
> ________________________________________________________________
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Date:         Fri, 27 Aug 2004 14:37:17 -0600
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Did the bathtub you tried out in your new house have a steering wheel
installed with it?

Phil.
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Date:         Fri, 27 Aug 2004 17:06:14 -0400
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No Phil, Actually, it uses a joy stick!
Kathy

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Date:         Fri, 27 Aug 2004 15:51:01 -0600
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I should have known you would have gotten a computerized bathtub.  Be
careful where you plug those electrical things in since that is the case.
Taking a bath could be a rather shocking experience if anything goes wrong.

Phil.
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Date:         Fri, 27 Aug 2004 17:37:04 -0500
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Dear Loving EChurch Family,

As you all know I love Dan Fogelberg's music and lyrics.

He has recently been diagnosed with advanced prostate cancer.

You can check this out at:

http://www.danfogelberg.com/news.html

You can send prayers to him, which he will reach at:

http://www.thelivinglegacy.net

There are over 1300 messages of prayers and love up there already, and it
only started this week!

Please keep him in your prayers.

If you want me to post any of the replies here up there, I can do so. They
will be posted as new messages and not replies.

Thanks, and God Bless.

Love and Blessings,
Pat Ferguson
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Date:         Fri, 27 Aug 2004 17:52:33 -0500
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You can go up to the web sites I listed in my previous message and see how
the messages are done. Your email address will not show up there at all,
because the web masters, Deborah and Laurie cut and paste these messages to
their web site which is:

http://www.thelivinglegacy.net/wishes.html

People are signing their messages however they like, and then under their
signature, they put their town and state they are from so Dan and Jean will
know where the messages of love and prayers are coming from.

Go up there and check them out! It's incredible the love and prayers going
out for them.

He will appreciate it, and from what I've heard, they can't believe all the
love and support and prayers going out to them and their families

Please have your Church pray for the Fogelberg family, also.

Thanks.

Love and Blessings,
Pat Ferguson

At 05:37 PM 8/27/04, you wrote:
>Dear Loving EChurch Family,
>
>As you all know I love Dan Fogelberg's music and lyrics.
>
>He has recently been diagnosed with advanced prostate cancer.
>
>You can check this out at:
>
>http://www.danfogelberg.com/news.html
>
>You can send prayers to him, which he will reach at:
>
>http://www.thelivinglegacy.net
>
>There are over 1300 messages of prayers and love up there already, and it
>only started this week!
>
>Please keep him in your prayers.
>
>If you want me to post any of the replies here up there, I can do so. They
>will be posted as new messages and not replies.
>
>Thanks, and God Bless.
>
>Love and Blessings,
>Pat Ferguson
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Date:         Fri, 27 Aug 2004 18:34:17 -0600
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Oh my Kathy!  What does it taste like?

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Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 6:38 PM
Subject: Re: Back again


> Vicki, Pepsi, oh no, it's coke all the way, or, if you insist on partying
> at my house, being in Maine, you'll all have to try a sip of moxy!
> Yes, there really is a soft drink here in Maine called Moxy!
> Kathy
>
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Date:         Fri, 27 Aug 2004 18:35:46 -0600
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I got a Noah's Ark music box from my sister as a gift.  Your comment, Lelia,
reminded me of this cute box.  Good thing we're all still a-float.

Vicki
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Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 7:06 AM
Subject: Re: Hi all I'm back blame it on the rain


> I thought we might have to I was talking of feeling Noah trust me *grin
>
> I remember that night saying to Todd hey wouldn't it be funny if we woke
up
> and our house was like Noah's ark floating?
>
> WE laughed
>
>
> Lelia Struve email [log in to unmask] msn [log in to unmask]
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brad Dunse" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 7:14 PM
> Subject: Re: Hi all I'm back blame it on the rain
>
>
> > Lelia,
> >
> > Welcome back. Glad you didn't have to start pairing up species for that
> flood.
> > Brad
> >
> >
> > Lelia Struve wrote:
> > >Hi all, well, those of you in Colorado will remember the rain last
> Wednesday
> > >the big one the one that flooded things, well, it flooded my phone line
> and
> > >I lost both phone and dsl then they fixed the phone but I had no dsl
for
> a
> > >week I'm back now and boy do I have some catching up to do Sandy how is
> > >Taylor?  Better I hope?
> >
> > Brad
> >
> >    On the other hand, you have different fingers
> >
> >
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Date:         Fri, 27 Aug 2004 19:22:27 -0600
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Brad, Kathy and all,

Think you better thrown in a few, um, home cooked meals.  You know they have
this cookbook that talks about how you can cook food using just cans of
things.  I've an idea it's made for bachelor's.  LOL!

Vicki

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Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: Prayer req 8/25


> Brad,
> If you want a new guitar out of this, you'd better offer some foot
> massages, meals on wheels, complete surrender  of the remote control and
> it wouldn't hurt to offer to comb her hair a few times too, along with
> the music!  Don't forget the candles and a nice little get well gift
> wouldn't hurt either.  I'm just trying to help you get that guitar, Brad.
> Kathy
>
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Date:         Fri, 27 Aug 2004 19:34:18 -0600
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I might chuckle, but I promise not to laugh.

Vicki
who is smiling.

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 2:11 PM
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> Maybe God Wears A Cowboy Hat
>
>
> By Phil Scovell
>
>
>
>
>      I rode horses a great deal as a kid growing up in Iowa.
> Most summer weekends I spent Saturdays at a friend's home just
> outside of Des Moines and we spent most of the day either fishing
> in the creek or on the back of a horse.  Additionally, my father
> was a country preacher.  He often drove 50 and 60 miles into
> farming communities on Sundays and ministered in churches too
> small to afford a full time pastor.  His family, of course,
> generally went along and since these were mostly farming
> communities, there were lots of horses to ride.  I didn't care if
> there was a saddle or I rode bareback; I just loved being on a
> horse.  In light of all of this horseback riding, I never
> considered myself a cowboy.  I especially hated wearing hats and
> never did wear them.
>
>      When I moved to Colorado, my first job was standing on my
> feet all day.  By evening, I could hardly walk.  My employer kept
> telling me, "Buy cowboy boots."  I had no interest in cowboy boots
> whatsoever and I told him so.  He said, "So, then, let your feet
> hurt."
>
>      One day, in total agony, I said to my boss, "Would you please
> go with me after work and help me pick out boots?  I know nothing
> about them."  He did so.  I wore my new boots for a couple of days
> and then went back to shoes.  I couldn't even walk down a flight
> of stairs with my boots on without tripping and falling half way
> down the steps.  I was never going to get used to wearing boots
> and I knew it.
>
>      Two weeks later, I was complaining to my boss one day about
> how terrible my feet hurt.  He told me it was my own fault for
> not wearing the cowboy boots.  I explained I couldn't even walk in
> them and didn't think I could get used to them.  He said, "Look.
> Put the boots on and wear them until you get over the
> psychological hang up you have about wearing them.  Don't give
> up."  I took his advice simply due to the pain my feet were
> suffering.  Two weeks went by and I was 100 percent sold on
> wearing cowboy boots.  It is all I have worn for well over thirty
> years now.
>
>      Recently, I was in need of some new clothes.  I had been
> putting off buying new cowboy boots for over three years because
> boots aren't cheap even if they do last many years beyond any
> type of shoes.  So, I was going to buy some new clothes and new
> boots and my mind was made up.
>
>      The day before my purchase, I was thinking about going out
> and buying the clothes.  I hate shopping and especially for
> clothes but it had to be done.  As I considered what I needed and
> what I was going to buy and how much I would spend on boots, I
> heard a small voice say, "Buy a hat."
>
>      I immediately said, "What?  I hate all hats," and waited for
> the Holy Spirit to continue.  He said nothing.  I still waited.
> He still didn't continue.
>
>      Unfortunately, I knew He was referring to a cowboy hat.
> Finally I said, "Lord, why do you want me to buy a hat?"  I was
> almost in tears at the thought of wearing a stupid cowboy hat.  As
> a blind person, hats always bothered my ability to hear well
> omnidirectionally and I just didn't like hats.  I didn't even like
> them, nor did I wear them, when I could see.
>
>      Finally, as I waited, the Lord said, "Because you are
> different now."
>
>      "Hold the phone there, Lord!  What in the world does that
> have to do with buying, and wearing I might add, a dumb cowboy
> hat?  I'm not even a cowboy.  I don't own a horse.  The last time
> I rode a horse, my bottom hurt for a week.  I'm not a cowboy!  I
> couldn't toss a rope if my life depended upon it."
>
>      All these things could have easily come to mind and I was
> tempted to let them come tumbling out in rebuttal but due to prior
> experience with such arguments with God, I refrained.  Why?
> Because I am learning to listen to the voice of the Holy Spirit.
> I knew exactly what He meant when He said, "Because you are
> different now."  The hat isn't important; my obedience to His Word
> is.  In other words, it was a test to see if I would obey.
>
>      You should have seen my youngest son and my wife when I said,
> after picking out the black cowboy boots I wanted, "Now I want to
> go look at the hats."  They nearly left me standing alone in the
> store.  My wife even said more than once, "Why are you buying a
> cowboy hat?"  I kept saying the same thing; "I don't know."  That
> wasn't true, of course, because I knew exactly why I was buying a
> hundred dollar cowboy hat; because Jesus told me to.  Admitting
> that publicly, however, was a little difficult.
>
>      So now, every time I leave my house, I am wearing a nice
> black cowboy hat.  People laugh and say, "I can't believe what I
> am seeing."  I just smile and climb in their car just like I have
> always worn a cowboy hat and boots.  No, I tell very few people
> why I wear a cowboy hat because, like you, they wouldn't believe
> me if I told them.  So I just wear my hat and every time I do, it
> puts a smile on my face, joy in my heart, and praise to my God for
> caring about me so much, He even tells me what to wear.  It is
> like a rancher friend of mind has always said, "God makes a pretty
> good cowboy."  I'm beginning to believe, God might also wear a
> cowboy hat.  Go ahead and laugh all you want but wait until it
> happens to you some day.  Then it will be my turn to chuckle.
>
>
> I Flew Kites With Jesus
> www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
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Date:         Fri, 27 Aug 2004 19:42:02 -0600
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Kathy,

Was going to ask you if you put any water in?  LOL!  Then I saw that the
plumber needed to come, so I got my answer.

Vicki

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> Hey Helen,
> I went out and climbed into the tub last night and it's pretty nice.  The
> end opposit the faucet is inclined so that it is much more comfortable to
> lay back and relax.  Our dog Honey climbed in for  a bit, but she doesn't
> really like baths so, even a nonthreatening bathtub didn't appeal to her.
>  Oh, I hope that the plumber comes back today to continue his work!
> Kathy
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Date:         Fri, 27 Aug 2004 19:42:50 -0600
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Maybe there is another message down the way.  I trust things went very well.

Vicki

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> Hey guys,
> Just asking you to pray for Matt today.  His   job interview is in the
> afternoon.  Also, he is going to the financial aid office today to learn
> how much aid he will be receiving.  Please pray that the aid is generous
> since we can't help him at all and it would be nice if he could
> concentrate on his academics rather then needing to find as many jobs as
> possible to pay the bills.
> A concerned Mom, Kathy
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Yeah, but the second mouse gets the cheese.  <smile>

earlier, Kathy Du Bois, wrote:
>Hey Helen,
>Well, it is the early bird that catches the worm.  I just need to figure
>out what the worm is!  Thanks for your prayers!
>Kathy
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O amen and what song does it play?


Lelia Struve email [log in to unmask] msn [log in to unmask]
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> I got a Noah's Ark music box from my sister as a gift.  Your comment,
Lelia,
> reminded me of this cute box.  Good thing we're all still a-float.
>
> Vicki
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lelia Struve" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 7:06 AM
> Subject: Re: Hi all I'm back blame it on the rain
>
>
> > I thought we might have to I was talking of feeling Noah trust me *grin
> >
> > I remember that night saying to Todd hey wouldn't it be funny if we woke
> up
> > and our house was like Noah's ark floating?
> >
> > WE laughed
> >
> >
> > Lelia Struve email [log in to unmask] msn [log in to unmask]
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Brad Dunse" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 7:14 PM
> > Subject: Re: Hi all I'm back blame it on the rain
> >
> >
> > > Lelia,
> > >
> > > Welcome back. Glad you didn't have to start pairing up species for
that
> > flood.
> > > Brad
> > >
> > >
> > > Lelia Struve wrote:
> > > >Hi all, well, those of you in Colorado will remember the rain last
> > Wednesday
> > > >the big one the one that flooded things, well, it flooded my phone
line
> > and
> > > >I lost both phone and dsl then they fixed the phone but I had no dsl
> for
> > a
> > > >week I'm back now and boy do I have some catching up to do Sandy how
is
> > > >Taylor?  Better I hope?
> > >
> > > Brad
> > >
> > >    On the other hand, you have different fingers
> > >
> > >
>
>
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Believe it's the old John Denver song, Sunshine on my shoulders.

Vicki

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> O amen and what song does it play?
>
>
> Lelia Struve email [log in to unmask] msn [log in to unmask]
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Vicki and The Rors" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 6:35 PM
> Subject: Re: Hi all I'm back blame it on the rain
>
>
> > I got a Noah's Ark music box from my sister as a gift.  Your comment,
> Lelia,
> > reminded me of this cute box.  Good thing we're all still a-float.
> >
> > Vicki
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Lelia Struve" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 7:06 AM
> > Subject: Re: Hi all I'm back blame it on the rain
> >
> >
> > > I thought we might have to I was talking of feeling Noah trust me
*grin
> > >
> > > I remember that night saying to Todd hey wouldn't it be funny if we
woke
> > up
> > > and our house was like Noah's ark floating?
> > >
> > > WE laughed
> > >
> > >
> > > Lelia Struve email [log in to unmask] msn [log in to unmask]
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Brad Dunse" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 7:14 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Hi all I'm back blame it on the rain
> > >
> > >
> > > > Lelia,
> > > >
> > > > Welcome back. Glad you didn't have to start pairing up species for
> that
> > > flood.
> > > > Brad
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Lelia Struve wrote:
> > > > >Hi all, well, those of you in Colorado will remember the rain last
> > > Wednesday
> > > > >the big one the one that flooded things, well, it flooded my phone
> line
> > > and
> > > > >I lost both phone and dsl then they fixed the phone but I had no
dsl
> > for
> > > a
> > > > >week I'm back now and boy do I have some catching up to do Sandy
how
> is
> > > > >Taylor?  Better I hope?
> > > >
> > > > Brad
> > > >
> > > >    On the other hand, you have different fingers
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
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I think I ought to divulge a small conversation with Phil last night!
Mike called him "Buffalo Phil", and he replied "No, it's just Buf
Scovell".  So, Buf it is!

Now, I'm glad I'm four and a half thousand miles away and a big ocean
between us!  <Shreaks of laughter!"


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I might chuckle, but I promise not to laugh.

Vicki
who is smiling.

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Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 2:11 PM
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> Maybe God Wears A Cowboy Hat
>
>
> By Phil Scovell
>
>
>
>
>      I rode horses a great deal as a kid growing up in Iowa. Most
> summer weekends I spent Saturdays at a friend's home just outside of
> Des Moines and we spent most of the day either fishing in the creek or

> on the back of a horse.  Additionally, my father was a country
> preacher.  He often drove 50 and 60 miles into farming communities on
> Sundays and ministered in churches too small to afford a full time
> pastor.  His family, of course, generally went along and since these
> were mostly farming communities, there were lots of horses to ride.  I

> didn't care if there was a saddle or I rode bareback; I just loved
> being on a horse.  In light of all of this horseback riding, I never
> considered myself a cowboy.  I especially hated wearing hats and
> never did wear them.
>
>      When I moved to Colorado, my first job was standing on my feet
> all day.  By evening, I could hardly walk.  My employer kept telling
> me, "Buy cowboy boots."  I had no interest in cowboy boots whatsoever
> and I told him so.  He said, "So, then, let your feet hurt."
>
>      One day, in total agony, I said to my boss, "Would you please go
> with me after work and help me pick out boots?  I know nothing about
> them."  He did so.  I wore my new boots for a couple of days and then
> went back to shoes.  I couldn't even walk down a flight of stairs with

> my boots on without tripping and falling half way down the steps.  I
> was never going to get used to wearing boots and I knew it.
>
>      Two weeks later, I was complaining to my boss one day about how
> terrible my feet hurt.  He told me it was my own fault for not wearing

> the cowboy boots.  I explained I couldn't even walk in them and didn't

> think I could get used to them.  He said, "Look. Put the boots on and
> wear them until you get over the psychological hang up you have about
> wearing them.  Don't give up."  I took his advice simply due to the
> pain my feet were suffering.  Two weeks went by and I was 100 percent
> sold on wearing cowboy boots.  It is all I have worn for well over
> thirty years now.
>
>      Recently, I was in need of some new clothes.  I had been putting
> off buying new cowboy boots for over three years because boots aren't
> cheap even if they do last many years beyond any type of shoes.  So, I

> was going to buy some new clothes and new boots and my mind was made
> up.
>
>      The day before my purchase, I was thinking about going out and
> buying the clothes.  I hate shopping and especially for clothes but it

> had to be done.  As I considered what I needed and what I was going to

> buy and how much I would spend on boots, I heard a small voice say,
> "Buy a hat."
>
>      I immediately said, "What?  I hate all hats," and waited for the
> Holy Spirit to continue.  He said nothing.  I still waited. He still
> didn't continue.
>
>      Unfortunately, I knew He was referring to a cowboy hat. Finally I

> said, "Lord, why do you want me to buy a hat?"  I was almost in tears
> at the thought of wearing a stupid cowboy hat.  As a blind person,
> hats always bothered my ability to hear well omnidirectionally and I
> just didn't like hats.  I didn't even like them, nor did I wear them,
> when I could see.
>
>      Finally, as I waited, the Lord said, "Because you are different
> now."
>
>      "Hold the phone there, Lord!  What in the world does that have to

> do with buying, and wearing I might add, a dumb cowboy hat?  I'm not
> even a cowboy.  I don't own a horse.  The last time I rode a horse, my

> bottom hurt for a week.  I'm not a cowboy!  I couldn't toss a rope if
> my life depended upon it."
>
>      All these things could have easily come to mind and I was tempted

> to let them come tumbling out in rebuttal but due to prior experience
> with such arguments with God, I refrained.  Why? Because I am learning

> to listen to the voice of the Holy Spirit. I knew exactly what He
> meant when He said, "Because you are different now."  The hat isn't
> important; my obedience to His Word is.  In other words, it was a test

> to see if I would obey.
>
>      You should have seen my youngest son and my wife when I said,
> after picking out the black cowboy boots I wanted, "Now I want to go
> look at the hats."  They nearly left me standing alone in the store.
> My wife even said more than once, "Why are you buying a cowboy hat?"
> I kept saying the same thing; "I don't know."  That wasn't true, of
> course, because I knew exactly why I was buying a hundred dollar
> cowboy hat; because Jesus told me to.  Admitting that publicly,
> however, was a little difficult.
>
>      So now, every time I leave my house, I am wearing a nice black
> cowboy hat.  People laugh and say, "I can't believe what I am seeing."

> I just smile and climb in their car just like I have always worn a
> cowboy hat and boots.  No, I tell very few people why I wear a cowboy
> hat because, like you, they wouldn't believe me if I told them.  So I
> just wear my hat and every time I do, it puts a smile on my face, joy
> in my heart, and praise to my God for caring about me so much, He even

> tells me what to wear.  It is like a rancher friend of mind has always

> said, "God makes a pretty good cowboy."  I'm beginning to believe, God

> might also wear a cowboy hat.  Go ahead and laugh all you want but
> wait until it happens to you some day.  Then it will be my turn to
> chuckle.
>
>
> I Flew Kites With Jesus
> www.SafePlaceFellowship.com

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Well, Vicki,
Well, it tastes kind of like coke to me only, maybe a little more bitter.
 Some people say that it leaves a nasty taste in your mouth afterwards,
but I haven't really noticed that.  It's a real big deal around here.
They have a Moxie festival and everything.  I guess that more than 30,000
people attended this summer.  Moxie is like so many of the culturally
unique things here in Maine.  Either you love it or you hate it, I guess.
 The same can be said for their red hotdogs and whoopy pies.
Kathy

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Hey Vicki,
Greg and I were shopping for cook books for Matt a while back because we
knew that he was going to have to live on his own for a few weeks in
Grand Rapids before school started.  Anyway, we came across this board
book, you know the kind that they make for little kids with the heavy
cardboard pages so the kid can't  ruin them as easily?  Anyway, this book
was a cookbook for men and it was called, "A Man, A Can, and a
Microwave."  Isn't that just a stitch?
Kathy

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Phil,
I just have to figure out what to do if the thing crashes.  I mean, does
that mean re-fill the tub?
Kathy

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Vicki,
The plumber still needs to come!  Man, he must be the kind of guy that
holds grudges or something.
Kathy

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Vicki,
Matt felt that the interview went well.  The manager told him that he
likes to see a person actually on the job before he makes a final
decision so he asked Matt to come back Monday and get a feel for the
place.  Matt is very encouraged by this.

On the financial end of things, the financial aid office hasn't completed
all the tabulations yet, but Matt will be receiving some aid.  They've
assured him of that.  If he doesn't get any answers by Tuesday then we
will get involved to add weight to the situation.  We're trying to keep
our hands off as much as possible though.He's looking forwrd to moving
into the dorm tomorrow.
Kathy

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Carol,
As long as he's not "in the buff,"  we should be okay.  Now I'm ducking
for cover too.  Hey Phil, wanna try out my new bathtub? GRIN!
Kathy

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Right there!  <SMILE>


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Carol,
As long as he's not "in the buff,"  we should be okay.  Now I'm ducking
for cover too.  Hey Phil, wanna try out my new bathtub? GRIN! Kathy

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I'm not a great pop drinker, so probably wouldn't appeal to me.  Thanks for
cluing us in though.  Every area seems to have their culture and traditions.

Vicki

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> Well, Vicki,
> Well, it tastes kind of like coke to me only, maybe a little more bitter.
>  Some people say that it leaves a nasty taste in your mouth afterwards,
> but I haven't really noticed that.  It's a real big deal around here.
> They have a Moxie festival and everything.  I guess that more than 30,000
> people attended this summer.  Moxie is like so many of the culturally
> unique things here in Maine.  Either you love it or you hate it, I guess.
>  The same can be said for their red hotdogs and whoopy pies.
> Kathy
>
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That is really a riot.  So, did you get it?

Vicki

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Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 6:08 AM
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> Hey Vicki,
> Greg and I were shopping for cook books for Matt a while back because we
> knew that he was going to have to live on his own for a few weeks in
> Grand Rapids before school started.  Anyway, we came across this board
> book, you know the kind that they make for little kids with the heavy
> cardboard pages so the kid can't  ruin them as easily?  Anyway, this book
> was a cookbook for men and it was called, "A Man, A Can, and a
> Microwave."  Isn't that just a stitch?
> Kathy
>
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Date:         Sat, 28 Aug 2004 07:31:46 -0600
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Kathy,

Does that mean he gets piping mad?  So then he can get piping glad all at
the same time?  Do hope he gets there soon!!!

Vicki

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Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 6:09 AM
Subject: Re: Housing update


> Vicki,
> The plumber still needs to come!  Man, he must be the kind of guy that
> holds grudges or something.
> Kathy
>
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Great news about the job!  Those financial aid folks don't get in any great
hurry either.  Will still keep Matt in prayer; as well as his mom.  Smile.

Vicki

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> Vicki,
> Matt felt that the interview went well.  The manager told him that he
> likes to see a person actually on the job before he makes a final
> decision so he asked Matt to come back Monday and get a feel for the
> place.  Matt is very encouraged by this.
>
> On the financial end of things, the financial aid office hasn't completed
> all the tabulations yet, but Matt will be receiving some aid.  They've
> assured him of that.  If he doesn't get any answers by Tuesday then we
> will get involved to add weight to the situation.  We're trying to keep
> our hands off as much as possible though.He's looking forwrd to moving
> into the dorm tomorrow.
> Kathy
>
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Date:         Sat, 28 Aug 2004 09:53:30 -0400
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Oooooh Vicki, very bad!  Groan, groan!!  Kathy

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Thanks for the prayers!  Kathy

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Vicki,  We decided against it because we weren't sure that he would have
a microwave.  We weren't even sure where he would be staying at the time.
 As it turns out, he ended up in an apartment on campus and there was a
microwave, but, we forgot to give him a can opener so he would have still
been left in the lurch.
Kathy

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Kathy,

My excuse... I had no coffee at that point in time.

Vicki

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> Oooooh Vicki, very bad!  Groan, groan!!  Kathy
>
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Then, that wasn't the book for him.  Maybe lots of microwave pop corn this
semester.

Vicki

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> Vicki,  We decided against it because we weren't sure that he would have
> a microwave.  We weren't even sure where he would be staying at the time.
>  As it turns out, he ended up in an apartment on campus and there was a
> microwave, but, we forgot to give him a can opener so he would have still
> been left in the lurch.
> Kathy
>
> ________________________________________________________________
> The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!
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Date:         Sat, 28 Aug 2004 09:39:38 -0600
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I'll try out your new tub, Kathy, only if I can wear my hat.

Buff.
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Dear Buff,

If you wear your hat, you absolutely must wear your boots too!

Helen



Earlier, Phil Scovell wrote:
>I'll try out your new tub, Kathy, only if I can wear my hat.
>
>Buff.
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I notice that since last night Buf (spelt B U F) has now become Buff
(spelt B U F F) and this is a sure sign he's huffing and buffing!???


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Dear Buff,

If you wear your hat, you absolutely must wear your boots too!

Helen



Earlier, Phil Scovell wrote:
>I'll try out your new tub, Kathy, only if I can wear my hat.
>
>Buff.

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The Future Is Now
How we are becoming a micro-chipped population
by Mika Belle,
Boise Weekly (Idaho)
Aug 11, 2004
Imagine no more grocery lines. Imagine no more lost children. Imagine your
television,
cell phone or laptop warning you the milk in your fridge is old. Now imagine
most
of these things are happening right now.
Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) technology collects information by
using tiny
microchip "tags" which are embedded "tagged" into products, animals and
people. The
chips are then tracked by "readers" at a distance, possibly through
clothing, purses
or wallets.
Some large retailers plan to replace barcodes with RFID for supply and
payment purposes,
but it can also identify who bought an individual item, when and where, and
how it
was paid for. Most importantly, RFID can track products after they have left
the
store, meaning it can track you. Privacy advocates are concerned.
Welcome to the future. It began yesterday.
In June 2003, Wal-Mart announced its Electronic Product Code (EPC)
initiative, ordering
its top 100 suppliers to start using RFID tags on cases and pallets headed
for the
Dallas, Texas, area. The suppliers were given a deadline of January 2005.
"It will become a requirement," said Linda Dillman, Wal-Mart's CIO.
One year later, Dillman echoed the same deadline, but to Wal-Mart's top 300
suppliers.
"Over the next 16 months, we also plan to significantly increase the number
of Wal-Mart
stores and Sam's Club locations where customers can benefit from this
revolutionary
technology," she said.
Although Dillman has repeatedly declined to say how much the new technology
is costing
the company, she has admitted it is a "top line" item.
RFID is such a priority for Wal-Mart, that testing has begun at their
Dallas-metro
warehouses. Cases and pallets of dozens of products use microchips when
delivered
to a distribution center, where readers installed at dock doors
automatically notify
staff and suppliers that a specific shipment has arrived.
Although the testing began at the case and pallet level, some products use
their
casing for its package, and are therefore already "tagged." Wal-Mart states
three
products -- two Hewlett-Packard Photosmart photo printers and an HP ScanJet
scanner
-- may feature tags on the outer packaging.
"The industry plan is to put an RFID tag on every product on Earth to
identify and
locate them at any time, anywhere," said Katherine Albrecht, founder and
director
of CASPIAN (Consumers Against Supermarket Privacy Invasion and Numbering).
"Wal-Mart
is taking the first steps to creating a society where everything could be
surveilled
at all times."
Wal-Mart and HP aren't alone. Several companies, including Target,
Cola-Cola, Proctor
& Gamble (P&G) and Gillette, have publicly stated they want RFID to
revolutionize
retail sales by helping them better supply their products to customers.
Headquartered in Boise, Albertsons, Inc. announced in March it expects its
top 100
suppliers to use RFID at the case and pallet level by April 2005. Albertsons
operates
about 2,300 stores under half a dozen names in 31 states.
"RFID is a cutting-edge tool that will give us a win-win advantage with both
customers
and suppliers," said Gabe Gabriel, an executive vice president.
According to "RFID and Consumers: Understanding Their Mindset," a Cap Gemini
Ernst
& Young study, "RFID allows companies to gain a competitive advantage. ...
Reaching
this future state, however, will require gaining the trust of consumers
before they
find RFID tags in their shopping carts."
But consumers have already started trusting retailers with their privacy.
Dozens
of retailers already use Smart Cards/Preferred Cards to assess what
individuals are
buying. According to a recent AC Nielson Frequent Shopping Survey, more than
70 percent
of shoppers participate in two or more preferred-card programs.
But microchipped products could allow these companies to know what their
customers
are doing after they leave their store, in real time, in almost every aspect
of life.
The surveillance scenario is possible when the tags are not "killed" or
deactivated
after products are purchased.
The retail tags are passive, but can be scanned an average of 15 to 20 feet
by readers
that various companies want to embed in doorways and floors at banks, shops,
airports,
libraries and homes. Active tags can transmit signals as far as you'd like.
Last November The Chicago-Sun Times revealed that Wal-Mart conducted a
secret RFID
trial in Oklahoma. The article reported customers bought P&G's Lipfinity
brand lipstick
with RFID tracking devices embedded in the packaging. Although Wal-Mart
previously
denied any consumer-level RFID testing in the United States, representatives
declined
to comment on the incident.
Business Week Online wrote about a protest at the German Metro
 "Future-store" last
winter, after RFID tags were discovered in loyalty cards, shopping carts,
packages
of Kraft's Philadelphia cream cheese, P&G's Pantene shampoo and Gillette
razors.
The protestors complained they were never told about the chips in the
loyalty cards.
Metro spokesman Albrecht von Truchsess said the chips were only put in the
cards
to prevent youths from renting adult films.
"We're not the CIA," he said.
CASPIAN's Web site (
www.spychips.com
 ) reported an incident where Gillette used "spy shelves" at a store in
England.
Whenever a shopper picked up a packet of razor blades from a shelf, a hidden
camera
secretly took a photo of the shopper's face.
The Web site links to Gillette Vice President Richard Cantrell discussing
the technology,
called Auto-Id, created by EPCglobal, whose major clients include Bechtel
(widely
criticized for its contract-bidding procedures in Afghanistan and Iraq).
Several retailers, led by P&G, oppose RFID legislation that would require
them to
deactivate tags after checkout. Some concerned citizens believe only using
cash will
protect their privacy, but paper currency may not be the last bastion for
long.
There is a myth on the Internet that microwaving a $20 bill will make it
burn due
to an implanted RFID chip. The Boise Weekly conducted its own experiment and
there
was no such burning.
However, the U.S. Treasury Department has hinted that our currency will
eventually
have RFID chips implanted in it. Across the pond, the European Union appears
to be
planning to implant chips in Euros by 2005.
This means your "former" cash, and anything you bought with it, could be
traced to
you. Police investigators could use any crime-scene object to interrogate
the last
person involved with the object's last transaction.
Because of RFID's potential accuracy for identification, some organizations
believe
it can promote good security, by any means necessary.
Last month, Mexican Attorney General Rafael Macedo de la Concha announced he
and
160 members of his staff were implanted with RFID chips, which allow them
access
to secure areas of his headquarters.
"It's only for access, for security," he said.
More Mexican government officials may soon get tagged, including key members
of the
military, police and staff members of President Vicente Fox.
"Promoting implanted RFID devices as a security measure is downright 'loco,
'" responded
Albrecht. "Advertising you've got a chip in your arm that opens important
doors is
an invitation to kidnapping and mutilation."
She described a Mexican kidnapping gang nicknamed "el chip," for reportedly
demanding
its victims point out the locations of their implanted chips.
But Americans may not have to travel to Mexico to get mutilated for their
microchips.
In fact, they may only need to step out of their house.
Introducing the ChipMobile, a tranquil blue and white recreational vehicle
tirelessly
traveling to a city near you to microchip your entire family. The RV is
owned by
VeriChip, which is owned by Applied Digital, who also owns Digital Angel.
The three
companies combine services to ensure all personal and corporate needs for
microchips
are covered.
The Digital Angel consists of a device similar to a wristwatch and a
belt-worn module.
It is marketed for concerned citizens to locate Alzheimer's patients, the
mentally
challenged or anybody else wearing the device. It can locate them anywhere
from any
P.C. This service costs $9.95 per month.
VeriChip's Web site states, "We are promoting VeriChip as a universal means
of identification.
We expect it to be used in a variety of applications including financial and
transportation,
security, residential and commercial."
VeriChip was just rewarded a $600,000 contract to start implanting 200,000
dogs in
Portugal, under a government initiative to control rabies. Chief Executive
Kevin
McGrath estimated RFID helped return 72,000 animals in the United States
last year.
Never mind lost dogs, RFID locates lost children. The Great America
amusement park
in Santa Clara, California, has the Star Watch program, where kids can wear
wristbands
that broadcast signals to antennas scattered throughout the park. A central
computer
tracks the children and sends their location to seven interactive kiosks
placed around
the park.
In Osaka, Japan, school authorities have decided to test RFID in one primary
school.
The tags will be put onto kids' schoolbags, nametags or clothing, in
conjunction
with readers at the school gates and other "key locations." Denmark started
a similar
scheme in June.
There are endless creative uses for RFID. British-based Innovasion developed
a reader
that supports Near Field Communication (NFC), a new standard that will allow
electronic
devices to download music or theater tickets from "smart" posters. The
reader, called
Io, is smaller than a dime, making it the smallest yet created.
"NFC has all the right building blocks for many applications," said
Innovasion's
Marc Borrett.
He said the first products could be deployed in 12 to 18 months, when users
could
use NFC phones to swap music and more. A recent demonstration showed a
businessperson
using such a phone to check in at an airport, collect a digital key at their
hotel
and pay their bill electronically upon check out.
"This isn't a pie-in-the-sky scenario," Borrett said.
When home appliances and related products become chipped and connected to
computers,
anything is possible. Your fridge could alert your television the milk has
passed
its expiration date (would you like to order more?). Insurance companies
could require
"smart" medicine cabinets to help ensure you are properly taking the right
drugs.
Steve David, chief information officer for P&G, has said prescription drug
counterfeiting
costs the pharmaceutical industry $500 billion worldwide, and backshop
thefts costs
companies another $50 billion per year.
The pharmaceutical industry estimates that between 2 and 7 percent of all
drugs sold
globally are counterfeit. The Food and Drug Administration has asked
manufacturers
to consider RFID technology to help combat counterfeit drugs.
The list of current RFID research and development grows: the San Francisco
library
wants to ease document inventory and checkout; hospitals use it to match
babies,
medications and allergies; airlines are matching luggage; police departments
debate
tagging officers so that only they may fire modified firearms.
But to be sure, RFID's greatest controversy surrounds its proliferation
among retailers.
Barry Steinhardt, an American Civil Liberties Union lawyer, warned a RFID
conference
last April that companies could profile their customers and share that
information
with the government, which would violate their privacy policies.
Last February, the Utah House of Representatives passed a bill mandating
clear labeling
of RFID-chipped products. At the same time, the California Senate considered
stronger
legislation, arguing retailers should need consumers' permission to use
RFID.
In response, the Grocery Manufacturers of America (representing Coca-Cola,
P&G, Gillette
and others) is trying to draft its own legislation before more stringent
laws are
passed.
Albrecht intends to keep an eye on all the retailers, she is prepared to
organize
boycotts.
"When the world's largest retailer (Wal-Mart) adopts a technology with
chilling societal
implications, and does so irresponsibly, we should all be concerned," she
said.
For more information, contact:
CASPIAN:
www.spychips.com
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Date:         Sat, 28 Aug 2004 10:40:04 -0600
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Helen,

I always wear my boots when taking a bath so that's no problem.

Phil.
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Date:         Sat, 28 Aug 2004 12:48:18 -0400
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Phil,

Boots on your feet, a hat on your head, in the tub and in the
buff!  LOL!  What a picture!

Helen


Earlier, Phil Scovell wrote:
>Helen,
>
>I always wear my boots when taking a bath so that's no problem.
>
>Phil.
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Hi, Carol!

I guess I've said enough silly things about Phil's hat and boots, now for
something serious.  Included in your replys, where the original post is
left in place (which by the way I really appreciate), the E Church address
is shown as a link, with the words mail to: before it.  At the end of it,
the sender is identified.  I don't see that in anyone else's replies.  Do
you do that yourself, or is it something automatic?  For example, at the
end of the E church link in a reply that I sent, it says "on behalf of
Helen".  In one from Kathy, it says "on behalf of Kathy".

It's kind of neat, but sure does have my curiosity up and running!  <Smile

Love,
Helen

Earlier, Carol Pearson wrote:
I notice that since last night Buf (spelt B U F) has now become Buff
(spelt B U F F) and this is a sure sign he's huffing and buffing!???


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-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 28 August 2004 16:49
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Subject: Re: New Tub


Dear Buff,

If you wear your hat, you absolutely must wear your boots too!

Helen



Earlier, Phil Scovell wrote:
I'll try out your new tub, Kathy, only if I can wear my hat.

Buff.

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Hey Buff, you're welcome to my tub any time!
Kathy

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Date:         Sat, 28 Aug 2004 13:03:49 -0400
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And don't forget Helen, he's in boots and hat in the buff in my tub in an
unfinished bathroom with no water!
Kathy

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Date:         Sat, 28 Aug 2004 11:46:31 -0600
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come together very often until the man gets married.  LOL.

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  Hey Vicki,
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  Kathy

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Date:         Sat, 28 Aug 2004 11:57:57 -0600
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I have often been accused of being weird.

Buff.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Kathy Du Bois" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: New Tub


> And don't forget Helen, he's in boots and hat in the buff in my tub in an
> unfinished bathroom with no water!
> Kathy
>
> ________________________________________________________________
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Date:         Sat, 28 Aug 2004 19:21:53 +0100
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Actually, he doesn't take a bath . . . . . but have to admit he likes
the shower!


--
Carol




-----Original Message-----
From: Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Helen
Sent: 28 August 2004 17:48
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: New Tub


Phil,

Boots on your feet, a hat on your head, in the tub and in the buff!
LOL!  What a picture!

Helen


Earlier, Phil Scovell wrote:
>Helen,
>
>I always wear my boots when taking a bath so that's no problem.
>
>Phil.

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Date:         Sat, 28 Aug 2004 19:23:45 +0100
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It's part of Outlook.  (I used to use Outlook Express).  I don't have to
do anything myself, apart from write the message of course.  <SMILE>


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-----Original Message-----
From: Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Helen
Sent: 28 August 2004 17:57
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: On behalf of - was New Tub


Hi, Carol!

I guess I've said enough silly things about Phil's hat and boots, now
for something serious.  Included in your replys, where the original post
is left in place (which by the way I really appreciate), the E Church
address is shown as a link, with the words mail to: before it.  At the
end of it, the sender is identified.  I don't see that in anyone else's
replies.  Do you do that yourself, or is it something automatic?  For
example, at the end of the E church link in a reply that I sent, it says
"on behalf of Helen".  In one from Kathy, it says "on behalf of Kathy".

It's kind of neat, but sure does have my curiosity up and running!
<Smile

Love,
Helen

Earlier, Carol Pearson wrote:
I notice that since last night Buf (spelt B U F) has now become Buff
(spelt B U F F) and this is a sure sign he's huffing and buffing!???


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-----Original Message-----
From: Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Helen
Sent: 28 August 2004 16:49
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: New Tub


Dear Buff,

If you wear your hat, you absolutely must wear your boots too!

Helen



Earlier, Phil Scovell wrote:
I'll try out your new tub, Kathy, only if I can wear my hat.

Buff.

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Kathy,  I seen the moxie festival on the food channel they were talking about everyone's favorite soda pop.  Dr. Pepper was one of the big ones and I cannot stand it.  It taste like drinking black liccorish and I do not like it.


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-------------- Original message --------------

> Well, Vicki,
> Well, it tastes kind of like coke to me only, maybe a little more bitter.
> Some people say that it leaves a nasty taste in your mouth afterwards,
> but I haven't really noticed that. It's a real big deal around here.
> They have a Moxie festival and everything. I guess that more than 30,000
> people attended this summer. Moxie is like so many of the culturally
> unique things here in Maine. Either you love it or you hate it, I guess.
> The same can be said for their red hotdogs and whoopy pies.
> Kathy
>
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Kathy,&nbsp; I seen the moxie festival on the food channel they were talking about everyone's favorite soda pop.&nbsp; Dr. Pepper was one of the big ones and I cannot stand it.&nbsp; It taste like drinking black liccorish and I do not like it. &nbsp;<BR><BR>
<DIV class=signature id=signature>--<BR>In any kind of circumstance PRAY <BR><BR>Karen Carter 74'</DIV><BR>
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Date:         Sat, 28 Aug 2004 16:04:55 -0400
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Yikes!  Phil in that condition right out in public for all your neighbors
to enjoy!

Helen

Earlier, Kathy Du Bois wrote:
>And don't forget Helen, he's in boots and hat in the buff in my tub in an
>unfinished bathroom with no water!
>Kathy
>
>________________________________________________________________
>The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!
>Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!
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Date:         Sat, 28 Aug 2004 17:11:45 -0400
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Thank you, Pat.  June and I just sent in a letter of our own.  This is a sad
message indeed but I hope and pray, fervently pray, that he will soon be
well again.
Littlekat
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pat Ferguson" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 6:37 PM
Subject: Please pray for Dan Fogelberg


Dear Loving EChurch Family,

As you all know I love Dan Fogelberg's music and lyrics.

He has recently been diagnosed with advanced prostate cancer.

You can check this out at:

http://www.danfogelberg.com/news.html

You can send prayers to him, which he will reach at:

http://www.thelivinglegacy.net

There are over 1300 messages of prayers and love up there already, and it
only started this week!

Please keep him in your prayers.

If you want me to post any of the replies here up there, I can do so. They
will be posted as new messages and not replies.

Thanks, and God Bless.

Love and Blessings,
Pat Ferguson
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Date:         Sat, 28 Aug 2004 15:18:47 -0600
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It is true I hate taking a bath but I do occasionally take a shower with
Chester.  That's our parrot, of course.

Buff.


From: "Carol Pearson"
To:  [log in to unmask]>


> Actually, he doesn't take a bath . . . . . but have to admit he likes
> the shower!
>
>
> --
> Carol
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Helen
> Sent: 28 August 2004 17:48
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: New Tub
>
>
> Phil,
>
> Boots on your feet, a hat on your head, in the tub and in the buff!
> LOL!  What a picture!
>
> Helen
>
>
> Earlier, Phil Scovell wrote:
> >Helen,
> >
> >I always wear my boots when taking a bath so that's no problem.
> >
> >Phil.
>
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Date:         Sat, 28 Aug 2004 18:02:11 -0400
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I just wanted to come in and say hi and tell you a little bit ore about me.
I have a black lab named Legend.  I love to read, collect recipes, play on
the internet and I love stuffed animals.
I've been struggling with a few things that I want to get people's thoughts
on.  I've been praying more and getting closer to the Lord.  I started this
when I began to have panic attachs and anxiety.  What I'm wondering is if
people can shed any light on this.  Also my biggest fear is death.  I want
to try and get over being so afraid of it.  Please everyone pray that I can
conquer this.  Thanks for listening.

If you let people continue to hurt you, you are only hurting yourself.

Joycey
visit my web site at:
http://mysite.verizon.net/tamby3
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Date:         Sat, 28 Aug 2004 17:31:45 -0500
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Hi Tammy,

First welcome to the list.  At least I think you are new to it. I believe
you can find folks on here who have dealt successfully with anxiety and
fear of death and etc. Fear as you may know is a tool of the enemy. God's
word  which is the absolute truth in life and 100% grade A truth and to be
counted upon and used for teaching, instruction and guidance, tells us that
God has not given us a spirit of fear, but that of peace, sound mind, and
love. So recognizing that fear in itself is a tool and  it's contents,
although may have some merit for concern or things which may need dealing
with, fear is  proven to be of no use to any situation and only causes
those situations to become worse. Striving to be closer to God is a great
sign and you ought take comfort in that itself, and know that you are on
the right track, and hope is right there for you to grasp at anytime, no
matter what you are going through in life. I know that by the time I'm done
writing this note, you will already have had prayer by someone on this
list, on your behalf for the things you've mentioned. Welcome and know that
if death is the worst thing we fear, as Christians it only means we'll be
with God. And, as Christians with hearts pointed towards God and having had
accepted Christ's sacrifice, we have nothing to fear of God at all.

Blessings,

Brad



tamby-wolf wrote:
>I just wanted to come in and say hi and tell you a little bit ore about me.
>I have a black lab named Legend.  I love to read, collect recipes, play on
>the internet and I love stuffed animals.
>I've been struggling with a few things that I want to get people's thoughts
>on.  I've been praying more and getting closer to the Lord.  I started this
>when I began to have panic attachs and anxiety.  What I'm wondering is if
>people can shed any light on this.  Also my biggest fear is death.  I want
>to try and get over being so afraid of it.  Please everyone pray that I can
>conquer this.  Thanks for listening.
>
>If you let people continue to hurt you, you are only hurting yourself.
>
>Joycey
>visit my web site at:
>http://mysite.verizon.net/tamby3

Brad

   If we aren't supposed to eat animals, why are they made with meat ?
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Subject:      Re: The Future is Now.  How we are becoming a microchip
              population.
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Vinnie,

I knew Walmart and a different grocer than listed here were doing RFID
testing in Texas when I was there. It sure seems like an excerpt from the
"Left Behind" series doesn't it when reading it? Without sounding like a
gloom doomer, because I not only do not subscribe to that type of thing,
but despise it as it offers no solution most of the time, I will say  when
reading the bit about the Mexican authorities being implanted and etc. that
scripture concerning the mark is so close at hand. Although this seems to
be a new thing to many, we have to realize that chip experimentation has
been going on for a long time now and these little insurgences into society
are a gradual desensitization to a point where one day it will be used
regularly and then mandated to be used by all. Which I personally believe
is the mark talked about in scripture when referring to not being able to
buy or sell without the mark of the beast, or whatever. It also causes me
to think what will Christians do at such a time, or in preparation to such
a time, and if we knew that time was coming, what would we do to not
partake. Sure makes one think doesn't it.

Brad
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That is what you call wxposed to the elements


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> Yikes! Phil in that condition right out in public for all your neighbors
> to enjoy!
>
> Helen
>
> Earlier, Kathy Du Bois wrote:
> >And don't forget Helen, he's in boots and hat in the buff in my tub in an
> >unfinished bathroom with no water!
> >Kathy
> >
> >________________________________________________________________
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR><BR>&gt; Yikes! Phil in that condition right out in public for all your neighbors <BR>&gt; to enjoy! <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Helen <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Earlier, Kathy Du Bois wrote: <BR>&gt; &gt;And don't forget Helen, he's in boots and hat in the buff in my tub in an <BR>&gt; &gt;unfinished bathroom with no water! <BR>&gt; &gt;Kathy <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;________________________________________________________________ <BR>&gt; &gt;The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! <BR>&gt; &gt;Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! <BR>&gt; &gt;Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! </BLOCKQUOTE></body></html>

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Thrus in the Lord.  In his word he says. " Absent from the body present with the Lord"


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Karen Carter 74'


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> I just wanted to come in and say hi and tell you a little bit ore about me.
> I have a black lab named Legend. I love to read, collect recipes, play on
> the internet and I love stuffed animals.
> I've been struggling with a few things that I want to get people's thoughts
> on. I've been praying more and getting closer to the Lord. I started this
> when I began to have panic attachs and anxiety. What I'm wondering is if
> people can shed any light on this. Also my biggest fear is death. I want
> to try and get over being so afraid of it. Please everyone pray that I can
> conquer this. Thanks for listening.
>
> If you let people continue to hurt you, you are only hurting yourself.
>
> Joycey
> visit my web site at:
> http://mysite.verizon.net/tamby3
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Thrus in the Lord.&nbsp; In his word he says.&nbsp;" Absent from the body present with the Lord"<BR><BR>
<DIV class=signature id=signature>--<BR>In any kind of circumstance PRAY <BR><BR>Karen Carter 74'</DIV><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR><BR>&gt; I just wanted to come in and say hi and tell you a little bit ore about me. <BR>&gt; I have a black lab named Legend. I love to read, collect recipes, play on <BR>&gt; the internet and I love stuffed animals. <BR>&gt; I've been struggling with a few things that I want to get people's thoughts <BR>&gt; on. I've been praying more and getting closer to the Lord. I started this <BR>&gt; when I began to have panic attachs and anxiety. What I'm wondering is if <BR>&gt; people can shed any light on this. Also my biggest fear is death. I want <BR>&gt; to try and get over being so afraid of it. Please everyone pray that I can <BR>&gt; conquer this. Thanks for listening. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; If you let people continue to hurt you, you are only hurting yourself. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Joycey <BR>&gt; visit my web site at: <BR>&gt; http://mysite.verizon.net/tamby3 </BLOCKQUOTE></body></html>

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Date:         Sat, 28 Aug 2004 19:22:02 -0400
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Earlier, [log in to unmask] wrote:
I am forwarding this from a friend for those of  you who have sleep aphnea.
By the way, a Uvulaplasty is a way to treat those with sleep aphnea, which is
what I have. Instead of using a positive air pressure machine with its mask,
you have part of your pallet removed. This should reduce the obstructive
breathing incidents and associated snoring during sleep.

In any kind of circumstance PRAY

Karen Carter 74'







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Date:         Sat, 28 Aug 2004 19:25:59 -0400
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Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 16:03:25 -0400


Thanks, Carol!  Guess my high-flyin' curiosity can come down to roost
now.  <SMILE

Helen

Earlier, Carol Pearson wrote:
It's part of Outlook.  (I used to use Outlook Express).  I don't have to
do anything myself, apart from write the message of course.  <SMILE


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-----Original Message-----
From: Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Helen
Sent: 28 August 2004 17:57
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: On behalf of - was New Tub


Hi, Carol!

I guess I've said enough silly things about Phil's hat and boots, now
for something serious.  Included in your replys, where the original post
is left in place (which by the way I really appreciate), the E Church
address is shown as a link, with the words mail to: before it.  At the
end of it, the sender is identified.  I don't see that in anyone else's
replies.  Do you do that yourself, or is it something automatic?  For
example, at the end of the E church link in a reply that I sent, it says
"on behalf of Helen".  In one from Kathy, it says "on behalf of Kathy".

It's kind of neat, but sure does have my curiosity up and running!
<Smile

Love,
Helen

Earlier, Carol Pearson wrote:
I notice that since last night Buf (spelt B U F) has now become Buff
(spelt B U F F) and this is a sure sign he's huffing and buffing!???


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Carol
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-----Original Message-----
From: Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Helen
Sent: 28 August 2004 16:49
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: New Tub


Dear Buff,

If you wear your hat, you absolutely must wear your boots too!

Helen



Earlier, Phil Scovell wrote:
I'll try out your new tub, Kathy, only if I can wear my hat.

Buff.

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If you do not hear from me until Monday or Tuesday do not worry.  I got a new computer desk so I have to rearrange things.  I will let you know when I am all up and running again


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Date:         Sat, 28 Aug 2004 18:36:00 -0600
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Hello and welcome Tammy.  Yes, lots of pfolks on echurch have faced those
same things.  I am praying with a man right now concerning his fear of death
as well as many other things going on in his life such as anxiety.  Just
make your needs known and everyone will do what they can.  People love to
pray for others on here.

Phil.

I Flew Kites With Jesus
www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
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Date:         Sat, 28 Aug 2004 18:44:11 -0600
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Karen,

Enjoy your new computer set up.

Vicki

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To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 6:31 PM


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Date:         Sat, 28 Aug 2004 20:49:05 -0400
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Has anyone drawn picutres on is cast?  Oh I always sende hugs and prayers
for him every dingle day.

Littlekat
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sandy Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 12:14 PM
Subject: Update on Taylor.


I would like to thank everyone for praying for Taylor.  He had a doctor
appointment and the fracture is healing very well.  He still has a long cast
on. They considered placing a short cast but the break was rather severe so
thought against it.

Sandy
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Date:         Sat, 28 Aug 2004 19:05:32 -0600
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Hi,

Glad to have you here.  And thanks for the intro.

I collect music boxes and have a number of stuffed animals.  Love to read
too.

Good for you for drawing closer to the Lord.  He promises to draw close to
us as we draw close to him.  Sometimes we take that fact by faith as it
doesn't always feel like he's close.  But he really is there for us.  Many
of us have struggled with various issues here too, including panic attacks,
so you're not alone.

Vicki

----- Original Message -----
From: "tamby-wolf" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 4:02 PM
Subject: Hello yeveryone


> I just wanted to come in and say hi and tell you a little bit ore about
me.
> I have a black lab named Legend.  I love to read, collect recipes, play on
> the internet and I love stuffed animals.
> I've been struggling with a few things that I want to get people's
thoughts
> on.  I've been praying more and getting closer to the Lord.  I started
this
> when I began to have panic attachs and anxiety.  What I'm wondering is if
> people can shed any light on this.  Also my biggest fear is death.  I want
> to try and get over being so afraid of it.  Please everyone pray that I
can
> conquer this.  Thanks for listening.
>
> If you let people continue to hurt you, you are only hurting yourself.
>
> Joycey
> visit my web site at:
> http://mysite.verizon.net/tamby3
>
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Date:         Sat, 28 Aug 2004 19:06:53 -0600
Reply-To:     Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
              <[log in to unmask]>
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              <[log in to unmask]>
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I fragot to say that I have a Yellow Labrador named Rory.

Vicki

----- Original Message -----
From: "tamby-wolf" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 4:02 PM
Subject: Hello yeveryone


> I just wanted to come in and say hi and tell you a little bit ore about
me.
> I have a black lab named Legend.  I love to read, collect recipes, play on
> the internet and I love stuffed animals.
> I've been struggling with a few things that I want to get people's
thoughts
> on.  I've been praying more and getting closer to the Lord.  I started
this
> when I began to have panic attachs and anxiety.  What I'm wondering is if
> people can shed any light on this.  Also my biggest fear is death.  I want
> to try and get over being so afraid of it.  Please everyone pray that I
can
> conquer this.  Thanks for listening.
>
> If you let people continue to hurt you, you are only hurting yourself.
>
> Joycey
> visit my web site at:
> http://mysite.verizon.net/tamby3
>
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Date:         Sat, 28 Aug 2004 21:21:39 -0400
Reply-To:     Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
              <[log in to unmask]>
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              <[log in to unmask]>
From:         Littlekat10 <[log in to unmask]>
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Snicker, Phil!  Now what does Sandy think about that hose?  But seriously, I
am glad you and Mr. CPAP made friends.  I love mine and I feel better and
have fewer nightmares now.  Before I got my machine I used to dream that I
was being suffocated by balloons.  That was so terrifying!  Now I can't
remember my dreams unless I've had a bad night and that doesn't happen all
that often.

Littlekat
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 3:31 PM
Subject: The Dream Machine


I slept for five and a half hours straight last night for the first time in
a very long time.  I had to get up then because I drank a can of pop before
going to bed so you know what that means.  Otherwise, I wouldn't have been
surprised if I had gone 7 hours straight.  In fact, I was so wide awake at
5:30, it took me a good 30 minutes, or more, to go back to sleep.  I was
tempted to stay up because I felt so good.  Unfortunately, I can't remember
dreaming.  I could make one up, however, for those interested in my dreams.
It also took a little adjusting during the night but it was much better than
in the hospital and the dream machine is also very quiet.  So, now that I am
not afraid of it, I am sure I will get better use out of it.  With the
larger mask over my mouth and nose, and the hose running from it out the
front and over to my night stand, I rather feel like I am flying a jet
fighter so that's what I pretend I am doing while going to sleep.  I've
always wanted to be a fighter pilot anyhow.  I have a sleep tape I made once
that sounds like a jet flying fast and high.  Maybe I should get that out
and listen to it at night.  I have also figured out that I can use the hose,
since it is six feet long, to rope round Sandy to keep her closer to me at
night.  It works well for that, too.

Phil.
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Date:         Sat, 28 Aug 2004 20:27:32 -0600
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Karen, Karen!  I thought I was getting to like you, and then you go and =
say you hate Dr. Pepper, my favorite soda?  I don't know about you now,  =
LOL.

Julie=20
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  Kathy,  I seen the moxie festival on the food channel they were =
talking about everyone's favorite soda pop.  Dr. Pepper was one of the =
big ones and I cannot stand it.  It taste like drinking black liccorish =
and I do not like it.


  --
  In any kind of circumstance PRAY

  Karen Carter 74'


  -------------- Original message --------------

  > Well, Vicki,
  > Well, it tastes kind of like coke to me only, maybe a little more =
bitter.
  > Some people say that it leaves a nasty taste in your mouth =
afterwards,
  > but I haven't really noticed that. It's a real big deal around here.
  > They have a Moxie festival and everything. I guess that more than =
30,000
  > people attended this summer. Moxie is like so many of the culturally
  > unique things here in Maine. Either you love it or you hate it, I =
guess.
  > The same can be said for their red hotdogs and whoopy pies.
  > Kathy
  >
  > ________________________________________________________________
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  Kathy,&nbsp; I seen the moxie festival on the food channel they were =
talking about everyone's favorite soda pop.&nbsp; Dr. Pepper was one of =
the big ones and I cannot stand it.&nbsp; It taste like drinking black =
liccorish and I do not like it. &nbsp;<BR><BR>
  <DIV class=3Dsignature id=3Dsignature>--<BR>In any kind of =
circumstance PRAY <BR><BR>Karen Carter 74'</DIV><BR>
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<BR><BR>&gt; Well, Vicki, <BR>&gt; Well, it tastes kind of like coke to =
me only, maybe a little more bitter. <BR>&gt; Some people say that it =
leaves a nasty taste in your mouth afterwards, <BR>&gt; but I haven't =
really noticed that. It's a real big deal around here. <BR>&gt; They =
have a Moxie festival and everything. I guess that more than 30,000 =
<BR>&gt; people attended this summer. Moxie is like so many of the =
culturally <BR>&gt; unique things here in Maine. Either you love it or =
you hate it, I guess. <BR>&gt; The same can be said for their red =
hotdogs and whoopy pies. <BR>&gt; Kathy <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; =
________________________________________________________________ =
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Well, Tammy my friend I too struggle with death but I try to remember that
when we die we are with Jesus.


Lelia Struve email [log in to unmask] msn [log in to unmask]
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From: "Vicki and The Rors" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: Hello yeveryone


> I fragot to say that I have a Yellow Labrador named Rory.
>
> Vicki
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "tamby-wolf" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 4:02 PM
> Subject: Hello yeveryone
>
>
> > I just wanted to come in and say hi and tell you a little bit ore about
> me.
> > I have a black lab named Legend.  I love to read, collect recipes, play
on
> > the internet and I love stuffed animals.
> > I've been struggling with a few things that I want to get people's
> thoughts
> > on.  I've been praying more and getting closer to the Lord.  I started
> this
> > when I began to have panic attachs and anxiety.  What I'm wondering is
if
> > people can shed any light on this.  Also my biggest fear is death.  I
want
> > to try and get over being so afraid of it.  Please everyone pray that I
> can
> > conquer this.  Thanks for listening.
> >
> > If you let people continue to hurt you, you are only hurting yourself.
> >
> > Joycey
> > visit my web site at:
> > http://mysite.verizon.net/tamby3
> >
>
>
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Date:         Sat, 28 Aug 2004 22:30:35 -0400
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I just want to say thank you to the people who responded to what I said
earlier.  It certainly is comforting and I appreciate it very much.


If you let people continue to hurt you, you are only hurting yourself.

Joycey
visit my web site at:
http://mysite.verizon.net/tamby3
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 Although you don't like Dr. Pepper, it's good to se you are back =
already.  Hope your new set-up works well for you.

Julie
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Date:         Sun, 29 Aug 2004 03:55:02 +0100
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Hi Tammy,

You have a big welcome from me also!  <SMILES>

I've sort of gate crashed this list because I'm from the UK.  I love it
with these folks.  We chat and talk and then get serious and pray and
share and then lighten up again . . ..

Tammy, you're not facing anything right now that hasn't been faced by
men and women down the centuries.  Your fears are very real and
certainly need to be addressed (prayed through), but you have a great
God Who doesn't let us down.  I know, because in the darkest place,
amidst my fears, I found Him there.  It's important that we find Him
where we are because it's right there, where we are, that He wants us to
find Him and reach out (somehow, anyhow we can) to let Him meet our
deepest of needs.

Talking of the fear of death, that's the very thing Satan would have us
to fear, the moment when we pass from this life to life eternal.  It's
hardly surprising that he should try to remove the joy of that thought
from our minds.  However, I think it's true that it's not usually
"death" itself that we fear but the actual "dying", or (perhaps in some
cases) our standing before the Lord.  In either case, He will be true
and there for us.

Hang in there, lean hard on Him and He will bring you through!  I know!
He brought me through!


--
Carol
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-----Original Message-----
From: Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
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Sent: 29 August 2004 03:31
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Hi everyone


I just want to say thank you to the people who responded to what I said
earlier.  It certainly is comforting and I appreciate it very much.


If you let people continue to hurt you, you are only hurting yourself.

Joycey
visit my web site at:
http://mysite.verizon.net/tamby3

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Date:         Sat, 28 Aug 2004 20:57:16 -0600
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Oh I like John Denver.


Lelia Struve email [log in to unmask] msn [log in to unmask]
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vicki and The Rors" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: Hi all I'm back blame it on the rain


> Believe it's the old John Denver song, Sunshine on my shoulders.
>
> Vicki
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lelia Struve" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 9:28 PM
> Subject: Re: Hi all I'm back blame it on the rain
>
>
> > O amen and what song does it play?
> >
> >
> > Lelia Struve email [log in to unmask] msn [log in to unmask]
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Vicki and The Rors" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 6:35 PM
> > Subject: Re: Hi all I'm back blame it on the rain
> >
> >
> > > I got a Noah's Ark music box from my sister as a gift.  Your comment,
> > Lelia,
> > > reminded me of this cute box.  Good thing we're all still a-float.
> > >
> > > Vicki
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Lelia Struve" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 7:06 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Hi all I'm back blame it on the rain
> > >
> > >
> > > > I thought we might have to I was talking of feeling Noah trust me
> *grin
> > > >
> > > > I remember that night saying to Todd hey wouldn't it be funny if we
> woke
> > > up
> > > > and our house was like Noah's ark floating?
> > > >
> > > > WE laughed
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Lelia Struve email [log in to unmask] msn [log in to unmask]
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Brad Dunse" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 7:14 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Hi all I'm back blame it on the rain
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Lelia,
> > > > >
> > > > > Welcome back. Glad you didn't have to start pairing up species for
> > that
> > > > flood.
> > > > > Brad
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Lelia Struve wrote:
> > > > > >Hi all, well, those of you in Colorado will remember the rain
last
> > > > Wednesday
> > > > > >the big one the one that flooded things, well, it flooded my
phone
> > line
> > > > and
> > > > > >I lost both phone and dsl then they fixed the phone but I had no
> dsl
> > > for
> > > > a
> > > > > >week I'm back now and boy do I have some catching up to do Sandy
> how
> > is
> > > > > >Taylor?  Better I hope?
> > > > >
> > > > > Brad
> > > > >
> > > > >    On the other hand, you have different fingers
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
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Brad,

Thanks for sharing your views on this and, yeah, well, it could well be
"the mark of the beast".  What makes you think that this (microchipping)
really is the mark?  I certainly think there are a number of changes
going on right now which point to the end.

We're going to have to trust the Lord in those days as never before
because, without the mark, there will be no buying and selling for us
Christians;  God through many and various means will have to provide for
us!  This means we must not think that we can be providing for
ourselves.  (Well, that's how I see it presently anyway.)


--
Carol
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-----Original Message-----
From: Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
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Sent: 28 August 2004 23:41
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: The Future is Now. How we are becoming a microchip
population.


Vinnie,

I knew Walmart and a different grocer than listed here were doing RFID
testing in Texas when I was there. It sure seems like an excerpt from
the "Left Behind" series doesn't it when reading it? Without sounding
like a gloom doomer, because I not only do not subscribe to that type of
thing, but despise it as it offers no solution most of the time, I will
say  when reading the bit about the Mexican authorities being implanted
and etc. that scripture concerning the mark is so close at hand.
Although this seems to be a new thing to many, we have to realize that
chip experimentation has been going on for a long time now and these
little insurgences into society are a gradual desensitization to a point
where one day it will be used regularly and then mandated to be used by
all. Which I personally believe is the mark talked about in scripture
when referring to not being able to buy or sell without the mark of the
beast, or whatever. It also causes me to think what will Christians do
at such a time, or in preparation to such a time, and if we knew that
time was coming, what would we do to not partake. Sure makes one think
doesn't it.

Brad

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Date:         Sat, 28 Aug 2004 22:00:48 -0600
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Me Too.

Vicki

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lelia Struve" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 8:57 PM
Subject: Re: Hi all I'm back blame it on the rain


> Oh I like John Denver.
>
>
> Lelia Struve email [log in to unmask] msn [log in to unmask]
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Vicki and The Rors" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 9:42 PM
> Subject: Re: Hi all I'm back blame it on the rain
>
>
> > Believe it's the old John Denver song, Sunshine on my shoulders.
> >
> > Vicki
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Lelia Struve" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 9:28 PM
> > Subject: Re: Hi all I'm back blame it on the rain
> >
> >
> > > O amen and what song does it play?
> > >
> > >
> > > Lelia Struve email [log in to unmask] msn [log in to unmask]
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Vicki and The Rors" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 6:35 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Hi all I'm back blame it on the rain
> > >
> > >
> > > > I got a Noah's Ark music box from my sister as a gift.  Your
comment,
> > > Lelia,
> > > > reminded me of this cute box.  Good thing we're all still a-float.
> > > >
> > > > Vicki
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Lelia Struve" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 7:06 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: Hi all I'm back blame it on the rain
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I thought we might have to I was talking of feeling Noah trust me
> > *grin
> > > > >
> > > > > I remember that night saying to Todd hey wouldn't it be funny if
we
> > woke
> > > > up
> > > > > and our house was like Noah's ark floating?
> > > > >
> > > > > WE laughed
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Lelia Struve email [log in to unmask] msn
[log in to unmask]
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Brad Dunse" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 7:14 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: Hi all I'm back blame it on the rain
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Lelia,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Welcome back. Glad you didn't have to start pairing up species
for
> > > that
> > > > > flood.
> > > > > > Brad
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lelia Struve wrote:
> > > > > > >Hi all, well, those of you in Colorado will remember the rain
> last
> > > > > Wednesday
> > > > > > >the big one the one that flooded things, well, it flooded my
> phone
> > > line
> > > > > and
> > > > > > >I lost both phone and dsl then they fixed the phone but I had
no
> > dsl
> > > > for
> > > > > a
> > > > > > >week I'm back now and boy do I have some catching up to do
Sandy
> > how
> > > is
> > > > > > >Taylor?  Better I hope?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Brad
> > > > > >
> > > > > >    On the other hand, you have different fingers
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
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Carol,

You asked why I thought the chip was the mark. Ever since I heard of the
Digital Angel a half a dozen or better years ago or so, and all it could do
I've not just thought, but have what I believe to be a prompting of the
Holy Spirit that this will be it. I have no super formula for thinking
this, just basic scripture regarding the last days as you've mentioned as
well, and a very real prompting I feel from God. For sometime my wife and I
have been watching old reruns via DVD of a TV show here in the states
called Little House on the Prairie. The actual place in which the real
people on which the TV show was based upon took place here in Wisconsin
only about 45 mins from here as well as a couple towns west of here , one
of which loving Pat lives. My wife and I  are both drawn to this show as it
is a bit of a relief from the day to day hub-bub of today. In looking back
at how people lived only a 100 years or so and looking at the enroads and
changes that have taken place, especially after the implementation of
computers it is staggering. We have technology that will read these notes
on your computer right through the walls of your house from the street via
magnetic frequency sensors, of course the RFID in which the article was
written, and so much more we likely do not even know. With the reliance of
credit cards and other electronic money in this day and the power of
companies like Walmart and etc. I believe it could happen within my
lifetime yet in which it be mandatory to have  a chip implant to buy or
sell. You can see this by Walmart's demanding that their suppliers have
RFID or they will not buy the products from them. I see similar electronic
money in the vending industry I'm in where in Japan they use Electronic
Wallets, cell phones with electronic money in them where you wave the phone
at a vending machine and make your selection. This chip technology could
well be imposed upon the general public. I'm fourty years old now, I plan
to live at least another of or 50 years, and when you look back at what
things were like 40 or 50 years ago and see the advancements, impositions
and etc. it is plain to me this mark can be upon us within the next handful
of decades. Look at how quickly the security measures have changed since
911. Much can be accomplished if they wish it to, and all it takes is a
good reason to mandate it in the name of safer kids, less crime, more
efficient disbursement of food in a growing world or perhaps with the
continuation and likely never ending war on terrorism, a better way to
monitor that situation. Of course you and I know terrorist will find a way
around it and leave the imposition of a mark upon those who are innocent. I
agree things will become much more reliant upon god's intervention to allow
his people to survive. I think of David when Saul was planning to pin him
to the wall for the attention he got for killing more enemies. David found
himself in a survival mode yet relied on God. I believe that is what will
occur when the mark is imposed on people. Of course it will  not brought
into place by mandating it right off. It will be brought in as we have seen
over the past years, little blips of it here and there to get people warmed
up to the idea it is coming. Then a slight use of it such as we seen in
this article, or as here in the USA, you cannot buy a dog from a breeder or
from a pound without that pup having a chip in it's ear. After people have
been warmed up to it, they will create an incentive for people to get it,
after an incentive, it will be made much harder and more of an
inconvenience for anyone to get along without it, and finally then they
will mandate it. I am not speaking prophetically as if sent from God, I
just know human nature from living long enough in this world, and believe
God has given me some ability to read the writing on the wall as it were. I
was pondering on this whole idea earlier and I  heard or felt a prompting
to say that this mark, will not be like it was with Y2K with many people,
it will not be a big emergency scare, nor a big after thought of what to do
with all the extra stuff bought in preparation. It is not something
temporary in which we can rely on computers to fix the problem as in Y2K
although it was the computers that were meant to be the problem, but rather
this will be a way  of life and will continually be harder to get along as
time goes on.  Just as anyone, I have no idea when any of the end times
things will take place, and we need be careful to not falsely proclaim the
wars we hear of are the rumors of war talked about in scripture as wars
have taken place since time began. There are so many things that can be
made to fit Scripture's description of latter days, and we are no doubt in
the latter days as was Jesus when he was here, but we need be watchers as
he has said, because he will come seemingly very fast to those who have not
been paying attention. I am not an alarmist, I am not one given to
paranoia, or to get excited about things at their first appearance as most
things in the world are temporary or will adjust or people make adjustments
to and so  anxiety is of no use. But this chip I feel in my heart, is the
mark which Scripture's talks. The size of these chips have gone down over
the years I believe and will be able to be injected. Just think, even going
to the doctor for a shot of meds could risk getting the mark without even
knowing it. None of our governments are past doing so without it's citizens
being aware. Things definitely will get interesting when that day comes
upon people. What then will we , as Christians do and ought we prepare for
such a day if we see it coming? And what preparatins might we do to protect
our families and  fellow  Christians.

Brad


Brad

   Strive to be insulated, not insulated
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That's the last I heard, Vinny.  I was hoping I'd know when she was over
but, of course, not being on the list myself, I may have missed news.


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Well, Brad, I asked for that response, didn't I!  There's nothing like
our "babbler"!

Thanks.  Scarey feeling to think that it will gradually creep up on us,
and I think you're right there.

We just have to watch and pray and leave all of the rest to Him!  Oh,
and while we're at it, we just go on preparing for His coming and get
those candles filled up with oil time upon time and brightly shining!

Thanks for your input.  You've helped to give me some food for thought
there!

Now I'll be getting long-winded if I continue so I'll stop!


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Carol,

You asked why I thought the chip was the mark. Ever since I heard of the
Digital Angel a half a dozen or better years ago or so, and all it could
do I've not just thought, but have what I believe to be a prompting of
the Holy Spirit that this will be it. I have no super formula for
thinking this, just basic scripture regarding the last days as you've
mentioned as well, and a very real prompting I feel from God. For
sometime my wife and I have been watching old reruns via DVD of a TV
show here in the states called Little House on the Prairie. The actual
place in which the real people on which the TV show was based upon took
place here in Wisconsin only about 45 mins from here as well as a couple
towns west of here , one of which loving Pat lives. My wife and I  are
both drawn to this show as it is a bit of a relief from the day to day
hub-bub of today. In looking back at how people lived only a 100 years
or so and looking at the enroads and changes that have taken place,
especially after the implementation of computers it is staggering. We
have technology that will read these notes on your computer right
through the walls of your house from the street via magnetic frequency
sensors, of course the RFID in which the article was written, and so
much more we likely do not even know. With the reliance of credit cards
and other electronic money in this day and the power of companies like
Walmart and etc. I believe it could happen within my lifetime yet in
which it be mandatory to have  a chip implant to buy or sell. You can
see this by Walmart's demanding that their suppliers have RFID or they
will not buy the products from them. I see similar electronic money in
the vending industry I'm in where in Japan they use Electronic Wallets,
cell phones with electronic money in them where you wave the phone at a
vending machine and make your selection. This chip technology could well
be imposed upon the general public. I'm fourty years old now, I plan to
live at least another of or 50 years, and when you look back at what
things were like 40 or 50 years ago and see the advancements,
impositions and etc. it is plain to me this mark can be upon us within
the next handful of decades. Look at how quickly the security measures
have changed since 911. Much can be accomplished if they wish it to, and
all it takes is a good reason to mandate it in the name of safer kids,
less crime, more efficient disbursement of food in a growing world or
perhaps with the continuation and likely never ending war on terrorism,
a better way to monitor that situation. Of course you and I know
terrorist will find a way around it and leave the imposition of a mark
upon those who are innocent. I agree things will become much more
reliant upon god's intervention to allow his people to survive. I think
of David when Saul was planning to pin him to the wall for the attention
he got for killing more enemies. David found himself in a survival mode
yet relied on God. I believe that is what will occur when the mark is
imposed on people. Of course it will  not brought into place by
mandating it right off. It will be brought in as we have seen over the
past years, little blips of it here and there to get people warmed up to
the idea it is coming. Then a slight use of it such as we seen in this
article, or as here in the USA, you cannot buy a dog from a breeder or
from a pound without that pup having a chip in it's ear. After people
have been warmed up to it, they will create an incentive for people to
get it, after an incentive, it will be made much harder and more of an
inconvenience for anyone to get along without it, and finally then they
will mandate it. I am not speaking prophetically as if sent from God, I
just know human nature from living long enough in this world, and
believe God has given me some ability to read the writing on the wall as
it were. I was pondering on this whole idea earlier and I  heard or felt
a prompting to say that this mark, will not be like it was with Y2K with
many people, it will not be a big emergency scare, nor a big after
thought of what to do with all the extra stuff bought in preparation. It
is not something temporary in which we can rely on computers to fix the
problem as in Y2K although it was the computers that were meant to be
the problem, but rather this will be a way  of life and will continually
be harder to get along as time goes on.  Just as anyone, I have no idea
when any of the end times things will take place, and we need be careful
to not falsely proclaim the wars we hear of are the rumors of war talked
about in scripture as wars have taken place since time began. There are
so many things that can be made to fit Scripture's description of latter
days, and we are no doubt in the latter days as was Jesus when he was
here, but we need be watchers as he has said, because he will come
seemingly very fast to those who have not been paying attention. I am
not an alarmist, I am not one given to paranoia, or to get excited about
things at their first appearance as most things in the world are
temporary or will adjust or people make adjustments to and so  anxiety
is of no use. But this chip I feel in my heart, is the mark which
Scripture's talks. The size of these chips have gone down over the years
I believe and will be able to be injected. Just think, even going to the
doctor for a shot of meds could risk getting the mark without even
knowing it. None of our governments are past doing so without it's
citizens being aware. Things definitely will get interesting when that
day comes upon people. What then will we , as Christians do and ought we
prepare for such a day if we see it coming? And what preparatins might
we do to protect our families and  fellow  Christians.

Brad


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I love those shows! I know those people had to work h ard, but they had
something we don't, community, they helped each other.
I have read all the books, I used to read a chapter a night to my girls when
they were small!
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Carol,

I suppose you did invite the bab abab abab bab
babababababababababling  Brad to ebaborate the answer lol.

Babbling Brad

At 09:51 AM 8/29/2004 +0100, Carol Pearson wrote:
>Well, Brad, I asked for that response, didn't I!  There's nothing like
>our "babbler"!
>
>Thanks.  Scarey feeling to think that it will gradually creep up on us,
>and I think you're right there.
>
>We just have to watch and pray and leave all of the rest to Him!  Oh,
>and while we're at it, we just go on preparing for His coming and get
>those candles filled up with oil time upon time and brightly shining!
>
>Thanks for your input.  You've helped to give me some food for thought
>there!
>
>Now I'll be getting long-winded if I continue so I'll stop!
>
>
>--
>Carol
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>
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>Sent: 29 August 2004 05:31
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: The Future is Now. How we are becoming a microchip
>population.
>
>
>Carol,
>
>You asked why I thought the chip was the mark. Ever since I heard of the
>Digital Angel a half a dozen or better years ago or so, and all it could
>do I've not just thought, but have what I believe to be a prompting of
>the Holy Spirit that this will be it. I have no super formula for
>thinking this, just basic scripture regarding the last days as you've
>mentioned as well, and a very real prompting I feel from God. For
>sometime my wife and I have been watching old reruns via DVD of a TV
>show here in the states called Little House on the Prairie. The actual
>place in which the real people on which the TV show was based upon took
>place here in Wisconsin only about 45 mins from here as well as a couple
>towns west of here , one of which loving Pat lives. My wife and I  are
>both drawn to this show as it is a bit of a relief from the day to day
>hub-bub of today. In looking back at how people lived only a 100 years
>or so and looking at the enroads and changes that have taken place,
>especially after the implementation of computers it is staggering. We
>have technology that will read these notes on your computer right
>through the walls of your house from the street via magnetic frequency
>sensors, of course the RFID in which the article was written, and so
>much more we likely do not even know. With the reliance of credit cards
>and other electronic money in this day and the power of companies like
>Walmart and etc. I believe it could happen within my lifetime yet in
>which it be mandatory to have  a chip implant to buy or sell. You can
>see this by Walmart's demanding that their suppliers have RFID or they
>will not buy the products from them. I see similar electronic money in
>the vending industry I'm in where in Japan they use Electronic Wallets,
>cell phones with electronic money in them where you wave the phone at a
>vending machine and make your selection. This chip technology could well
>be imposed upon the general public. I'm fourty years old now, I plan to
>live at least another of or 50 years, and when you look back at what
>things were like 40 or 50 years ago and see the advancements,
>impositions and etc. it is plain to me this mark can be upon us within
>the next handful of decades. Look at how quickly the security measures
>have changed since 911. Much can be accomplished if they wish it to, and
>all it takes is a good reason to mandate it in the name of safer kids,
>less crime, more efficient disbursement of food in a growing world or
>perhaps with the continuation and likely never ending war on terrorism,
>a better way to monitor that situation. Of course you and I know
>terrorist will find a way around it and leave the imposition of a mark
>upon those who are innocent. I agree things will become much more
>reliant upon god's intervention to allow his people to survive. I think
>of David when Saul was planning to pin him to the wall for the attention
>he got for killing more enemies. David found himself in a survival mode
>yet relied on God. I believe that is what will occur when the mark is
>imposed on people. Of course it will  not brought into place by
>mandating it right off. It will be brought in as we have seen over the
>past years, little blips of it here and there to get people warmed up to
>the idea it is coming. Then a slight use of it such as we seen in this
>article, or as here in the USA, you cannot buy a dog from a breeder or
>from a pound without that pup having a chip in it's ear. After people
>have been warmed up to it, they will create an incentive for people to
>get it, after an incentive, it will be made much harder and more of an
>inconvenience for anyone to get along without it, and finally then they
>will mandate it. I am not speaking prophetically as if sent from God, I
>just know human nature from living long enough in this world, and
>believe God has given me some ability to read the writing on the wall as
>it were. I was pondering on this whole idea earlier and I  heard or felt
>a prompting to say that this mark, will not be like it was with Y2K with
>many people, it will not be a big emergency scare, nor a big after
>thought of what to do with all the extra stuff bought in preparation. It
>is not something temporary in which we can rely on computers to fix the
>problem as in Y2K although it was the computers that were meant to be
>the problem, but rather this will be a way  of life and will continually
>be harder to get along as time goes on.  Just as anyone, I have no idea
>when any of the end times things will take place, and we need be careful
>to not falsely proclaim the wars we hear of are the rumors of war talked
>about in scripture as wars have taken place since time began. There are
>so many things that can be made to fit Scripture's description of latter
>days, and we are no doubt in the latter days as was Jesus when he was
>here, but we need be watchers as he has said, because he will come
>seemingly very fast to those who have not been paying attention. I am
>not an alarmist, I am not one given to paranoia, or to get excited about
>things at their first appearance as most things in the world are
>temporary or will adjust or people make adjustments to and so  anxiety
>is of no use. But this chip I feel in my heart, is the mark which
>Scripture's talks. The size of these chips have gone down over the years
>I believe and will be able to be injected. Just think, even going to the
>doctor for a shot of meds could risk getting the mark without even
>knowing it. None of our governments are past doing so without it's
>citizens being aware. Things definitely will get interesting when that
>day comes upon people. What then will we , as Christians do and ought we
>prepare for such a day if we see it coming? And what preparatins might
>we do to protect our families and  fellow  Christians.
>
>Brad
>
>
>Brad
>
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>
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That is so true Rhonda.

Vicki

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> I love those shows! I know those people had to work h ard, but they had
> something we don't, community, they helped each other.
> I have read all the books, I used to read a chapter a night to my girls
when
> they were small!
> Rhonda
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Unfortunately, community is a thing of the past.  Just call your local
church and ask for something simple, like a ride to the doctor, and see if
what I said is true or not.

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I don't have to do that I know it.  and not only that if a whole bunch of
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blind people does that make sense?


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> Unfortunately, community is a thing of the past.  Just call your local
> church and ask for something simple, like a ride to the doctor, and see if
> what I said is true or not.
>
> Buff.
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And a good answer it was, Brad.  Gave me food for thought.

Chocolate Chip Cookies anybody?  LOL!

Vicki

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> Carol,
>
> I suppose you did invite the bab abab abab bab
> babababababababababling  Brad to ebaborate the answer lol.
>
> Babbling Brad
>
> At 09:51 AM 8/29/2004 +0100, Carol Pearson wrote:
> >Well, Brad, I asked for that response, didn't I!  There's nothing like
> >our "babbler"!
> >
> >Thanks.  Scarey feeling to think that it will gradually creep up on us,
> >and I think you're right there.
> >
> >We just have to watch and pray and leave all of the rest to Him!  Oh,
> >and while we're at it, we just go on preparing for His coming and get
> >those candles filled up with oil time upon time and brightly shining!
> >
> >Thanks for your input.  You've helped to give me some food for thought
> >there!
> >
> >Now I'll be getting long-winded if I continue so I'll stop!
> >
> >
> >--
> >Carol
> >[log in to unmask]
> >
> >
> >--
> >Carol
> >[log in to unmask]
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
> >[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of BD
> >Sent: 29 August 2004 05:31
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: The Future is Now. How we are becoming a microchip
> >population.
> >
> >
> >Carol,
> >
> >You asked why I thought the chip was the mark. Ever since I heard of the
> >Digital Angel a half a dozen or better years ago or so, and all it could
> >do I've not just thought, but have what I believe to be a prompting of
> >the Holy Spirit that this will be it. I have no super formula for
> >thinking this, just basic scripture regarding the last days as you've
> >mentioned as well, and a very real prompting I feel from God. For
> >sometime my wife and I have been watching old reruns via DVD of a TV
> >show here in the states called Little House on the Prairie. The actual
> >place in which the real people on which the TV show was based upon took
> >place here in Wisconsin only about 45 mins from here as well as a couple
> >towns west of here , one of which loving Pat lives. My wife and I  are
> >both drawn to this show as it is a bit of a relief from the day to day
> >hub-bub of today. In looking back at how people lived only a 100 years
> >or so and looking at the enroads and changes that have taken place,
> >especially after the implementation of computers it is staggering. We
> >have technology that will read these notes on your computer right
> >through the walls of your house from the street via magnetic frequency
> >sensors, of course the RFID in which the article was written, and so
> >much more we likely do not even know. With the reliance of credit cards
> >and other electronic money in this day and the power of companies like
> >Walmart and etc. I believe it could happen within my lifetime yet in
> >which it be mandatory to have  a chip implant to buy or sell. You can
> >see this by Walmart's demanding that their suppliers have RFID or they
> >will not buy the products from them. I see similar electronic money in
> >the vending industry I'm in where in Japan they use Electronic Wallets,
> >cell phones with electronic money in them where you wave the phone at a
> >vending machine and make your selection. This chip technology could well
> >be imposed upon the general public. I'm fourty years old now, I plan to
> >live at least another of or 50 years, and when you look back at what
> >things were like 40 or 50 years ago and see the advancements,
> >impositions and etc. it is plain to me this mark can be upon us within
> >the next handful of decades. Look at how quickly the security measures
> >have changed since 911. Much can be accomplished if they wish it to, and
> >all it takes is a good reason to mandate it in the name of safer kids,
> >less crime, more efficient disbursement of food in a growing world or
> >perhaps with the continuation and likely never ending war on terrorism,
> >a better way to monitor that situation. Of course you and I know
> >terrorist will find a way around it and leave the imposition of a mark
> >upon those who are innocent. I agree things will become much more
> >reliant upon god's intervention to allow his people to survive. I think
> >of David when Saul was planning to pin him to the wall for the attention
> >he got for killing more enemies. David found himself in a survival mode
> >yet relied on God. I believe that is what will occur when the mark is
> >imposed on people. Of course it will  not brought into place by
> >mandating it right off. It will be brought in as we have seen over the
> >past years, little blips of it here and there to get people warmed up to
> >the idea it is coming. Then a slight use of it such as we seen in this
> >article, or as here in the USA, you cannot buy a dog from a breeder or
> >from a pound without that pup having a chip in it's ear. After people
> >have been warmed up to it, they will create an incentive for people to
> >get it, after an incentive, it will be made much harder and more of an
> >inconvenience for anyone to get along without it, and finally then they
> >will mandate it. I am not speaking prophetically as if sent from God, I
> >just know human nature from living long enough in this world, and
> >believe God has given me some ability to read the writing on the wall as
> >it were. I was pondering on this whole idea earlier and I  heard or felt
> >a prompting to say that this mark, will not be like it was with Y2K with
> >many people, it will not be a big emergency scare, nor a big after
> >thought of what to do with all the extra stuff bought in preparation. It
> >is not something temporary in which we can rely on computers to fix the
> >problem as in Y2K although it was the computers that were meant to be
> >the problem, but rather this will be a way  of life and will continually
> >be harder to get along as time goes on.  Just as anyone, I have no idea
> >when any of the end times things will take place, and we need be careful
> >to not falsely proclaim the wars we hear of are the rumors of war talked
> >about in scripture as wars have taken place since time began. There are
> >so many things that can be made to fit Scripture's description of latter
> >days, and we are no doubt in the latter days as was Jesus when he was
> >here, but we need be watchers as he has said, because he will come
> >seemingly very fast to those who have not been paying attention. I am
> >not an alarmist, I am not one given to paranoia, or to get excited about
> >things at their first appearance as most things in the world are
> >temporary or will adjust or people make adjustments to and so  anxiety
> >is of no use. But this chip I feel in my heart, is the mark which
> >Scripture's talks. The size of these chips have gone down over the years
> >I believe and will be able to be injected. Just think, even going to the
> >doctor for a shot of meds could risk getting the mark without even
> >knowing it. None of our governments are past doing so without it's
> >citizens being aware. Things definitely will get interesting when that
> >day comes upon people. What then will we , as Christians do and ought we
> >prepare for such a day if we see it coming? And what preparatins might
> >we do to protect our families and  fellow  Christians.
> >
> >Brad
> >
> >
> >Brad
> >
> >    Strive to be insulated, not insulated
> >
> >---
> >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free.
> >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> >Version: 6.0.745 / Virus Database: 497 - Release Date: 27/08/2004
> >
> >
> >---
> >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
> >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> >Version: 6.0.745 / Virus Database: 497 - Release Date: 27/08/2004
>
> Brad
>
>    You are richer today if you have laughed, given, or forgiven
>
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Lelia,

Yep.  That's the way it works.  I was asked in a very large church once if I
would teach a special Sunday school class for the five or six blind adults
we had in the church.  I said no and explained why.  They didn't like it but
God did.

Phil.
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WEll, I thank you for understanding we are having that problem now and might
just stop going to this church soon.  We are being asked to provide so that
the person doesn't have to go south to pick up people and we live fairly
close to the church and I for one don't like it.


Lelia Struve email [log in to unmask] msn [log in to unmask]
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> Lelia,
>
> Yep.  That's the way it works.  I was asked in a very large church once if
I
> would teach a special Sunday school class for the five or six blind adults
> we had in the church.  I said no and explained why.  They didn't like it
but
> God did.
>
> Phil.
>
>
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Date:         Sun, 29 Aug 2004 21:55:45 -0500
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              population.
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For a snack I was thinking potato chips. Regarding the micro-chips, my mind
wandered to cow chips. lol.

Brad



Vicki and The Rors wrote:
>And a good answer it was, Brad.  Gave me food for thought.
>
>Chocolate Chip Cookies anybody?  LOL!
>
>Vicki
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "BD" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 3:37 PM
>Subject: Re: The Future is Now. How we are becoming a microchip population.
>
>
> > Carol,
> >
> > I suppose you did invite the bab abab abab bab
> > babababababababababling  Brad to ebaborate the answer lol.
> >
> > Babbling Brad
> >
> > At 09:51 AM 8/29/2004 +0100, Carol Pearson wrote:
> > >Well, Brad, I asked for that response, didn't I!  There's nothing like
> > >our "babbler"!
> > >
> > >Thanks.  Scarey feeling to think that it will gradually creep up on us,
> > >and I think you're right there.
> > >
> > >We just have to watch and pray and leave all of the rest to Him!  Oh,
> > >and while we're at it, we just go on preparing for His coming and get
> > >those candles filled up with oil time upon time and brightly shining!
> > >
> > >Thanks for your input.  You've helped to give me some food for thought
> > >there!
> > >
> > >Now I'll be getting long-winded if I continue so I'll stop!
> > >
> > >
> > >--
> > >Carol
> > >[log in to unmask]
> > >
> > >
> > >--
> > >Carol
> > >[log in to unmask]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
> > >[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of BD
> > >Sent: 29 August 2004 05:31
> > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > >Subject: Re: The Future is Now. How we are becoming a microchip
> > >population.
> > >
> > >
> > >Carol,
> > >
> > >You asked why I thought the chip was the mark. Ever since I heard of the
> > >Digital Angel a half a dozen or better years ago or so, and all it could
> > >do I've not just thought, but have what I believe to be a prompting of
> > >the Holy Spirit that this will be it. I have no super formula for
> > >thinking this, just basic scripture regarding the last days as you've
> > >mentioned as well, and a very real prompting I feel from God. For
> > >sometime my wife and I have been watching old reruns via DVD of a TV
> > >show here in the states called Little House on the Prairie. The actual
> > >place in which the real people on which the TV show was based upon took
> > >place here in Wisconsin only about 45 mins from here as well as a couple
> > >towns west of here , one of which loving Pat lives. My wife and I  are
> > >both drawn to this show as it is a bit of a relief from the day to day
> > >hub-bub of today. In looking back at how people lived only a 100 years
> > >or so and looking at the enroads and changes that have taken place,
> > >especially after the implementation of computers it is staggering. We
> > >have technology that will read these notes on your computer right
> > >through the walls of your house from the street via magnetic frequency
> > >sensors, of course the RFID in which the article was written, and so
> > >much more we likely do not even know. With the reliance of credit cards
> > >and other electronic money in this day and the power of companies like
> > >Walmart and etc. I believe it could happen within my lifetime yet in
> > >which it be mandatory to have  a chip implant to buy or sell. You can
> > >see this by Walmart's demanding that their suppliers have RFID or they
> > >will not buy the products from them. I see similar electronic money in
> > >the vending industry I'm in where in Japan they use Electronic Wallets,
> > >cell phones with electronic money in them where you wave the phone at a
> > >vending machine and make your selection. This chip technology could well
> > >be imposed upon the general public. I'm fourty years old now, I plan to
> > >live at least another of or 50 years, and when you look back at what
> > >things were like 40 or 50 years ago and see the advancements,
> > >impositions and etc. it is plain to me this mark can be upon us within
> > >the next handful of decades. Look at how quickly the security measures
> > >have changed since 911. Much can be accomplished if they wish it to, and
> > >all it takes is a good reason to mandate it in the name of safer kids,
> > >less crime, more efficient disbursement of food in a growing world or
> > >perhaps with the continuation and likely never ending war on terrorism,
> > >a better way to monitor that situation. Of course you and I know
> > >terrorist will find a way around it and leave the imposition of a mark
> > >upon those who are innocent. I agree things will become much more
> > >reliant upon god's intervention to allow his people to survive. I think
> > >of David when Saul was planning to pin him to the wall for the attention
> > >he got for killing more enemies. David found himself in a survival mode
> > >yet relied on God. I believe that is what will occur when the mark is
> > >imposed on people. Of course it will  not brought into place by
> > >mandating it right off. It will be brought in as we have seen over the
> > >past years, little blips of it here and there to get people warmed up to
> > >the idea it is coming. Then a slight use of it such as we seen in this
> > >article, or as here in the USA, you cannot buy a dog from a breeder or
> > >from a pound without that pup having a chip in it's ear. After people
> > >have been warmed up to it, they will create an incentive for people to
> > >get it, after an incentive, it will be made much harder and more of an
> > >inconvenience for anyone to get along without it, and finally then they
> > >will mandate it. I am not speaking prophetically as if sent from God, I
> > >just know human nature from living long enough in this world, and
> > >believe God has given me some ability to read the writing on the wall as
> > >it were. I was pondering on this whole idea earlier and I  heard or felt
> > >a prompting to say that this mark, will not be like it was with Y2K with
> > >many people, it will not be a big emergency scare, nor a big after
> > >thought of what to do with all the extra stuff bought in preparation. It
> > >is not something temporary in which we can rely on computers to fix the
> > >problem as in Y2K although it was the computers that were meant to be
> > >the problem, but rather this will be a way  of life and will continually
> > >be harder to get along as time goes on.  Just as anyone, I have no idea
> > >when any of the end times things will take place, and we need be careful
> > >to not falsely proclaim the wars we hear of are the rumors of war talked
> > >about in scripture as wars have taken place since time began. There are
> > >so many things that can be made to fit Scripture's description of latter
> > >days, and we are no doubt in the latter days as was Jesus when he was
> > >here, but we need be watchers as he has said, because he will come
> > >seemingly very fast to those who have not been paying attention. I am
> > >not an alarmist, I am not one given to paranoia, or to get excited about
> > >things at their first appearance as most things in the world are
> > >temporary or will adjust or people make adjustments to and so  anxiety
> > >is of no use. But this chip I feel in my heart, is the mark which
> > >Scripture's talks. The size of these chips have gone down over the years
> > >I believe and will be able to be injected. Just think, even going to the
> > >doctor for a shot of meds could risk getting the mark without even
> > >knowing it. None of our governments are past doing so without it's
> > >citizens being aware. Things definitely will get interesting when that
> > >day comes upon people. What then will we , as Christians do and ought we
> > >prepare for such a day if we see it coming? And what preparatins might
> > >we do to protect our families and  fellow  Christians.
> > >
> > >Brad
> > >
> > >
> > >Brad
> > >
> > >    Strive to be insulated, not insulated
> > >
> > >---
> > >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free.
> > >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> > >Version: 6.0.745 / Virus Database: 497 - Release Date: 27/08/2004
> > >
> > >
> > >---
> > >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
> > >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> > >Version: 6.0.745 / Virus Database: 497 - Release Date: 27/08/2004
> >
> > Brad
> >
> >    You are richer today if you have laughed, given, or forgiven
> >

Brad

   Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot
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Oh my goodness!  Leave it to you Brad.  Snicker!

Vicki

----- Original Message -----
From: "BD" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: The Future is Now. How we are becoming a microchip population.


> For a snack I was thinking potato chips. Regarding the micro-chips, my
mind
> wandered to cow chips. lol.
>
> Brad
>
>
>
> Vicki and The Rors wrote:
> >And a good answer it was, Brad.  Gave me food for thought.
> >
> >Chocolate Chip Cookies anybody?  LOL!
> >
> >Vicki
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "BD" <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 3:37 PM
> >Subject: Re: The Future is Now. How we are becoming a microchip
population.
> >
> >
> > > Carol,
> > >
> > > I suppose you did invite the bab abab abab bab
> > > babababababababababling  Brad to ebaborate the answer lol.
> > >
> > > Babbling Brad
> > >
> > > At 09:51 AM 8/29/2004 +0100, Carol Pearson wrote:
> > > >Well, Brad, I asked for that response, didn't I!  There's nothing
like
> > > >our "babbler"!
> > > >
> > > >Thanks.  Scarey feeling to think that it will gradually creep up on
us,
> > > >and I think you're right there.
> > > >
> > > >We just have to watch and pray and leave all of the rest to Him!  Oh,
> > > >and while we're at it, we just go on preparing for His coming and get
> > > >those candles filled up with oil time upon time and brightly shining!
> > > >
> > > >Thanks for your input.  You've helped to give me some food for
thought
> > > >there!
> > > >
> > > >Now I'll be getting long-winded if I continue so I'll stop!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >--
> > > >Carol
> > > >[log in to unmask]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >--
> > > >Carol
> > > >[log in to unmask]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: Echurch-USA The Electronic Church
> > > >[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of BD
> > > >Sent: 29 August 2004 05:31
> > > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > > >Subject: Re: The Future is Now. How we are becoming a microchip
> > > >population.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Carol,
> > > >
> > > >You asked why I thought the chip was the mark. Ever since I heard of
the
> > > >Digital Angel a half a dozen or better years ago or so, and all it
could
> > > >do I've not just thought, but have what I believe to be a prompting
of
> > > >the Holy Spirit that this will be it. I have no super formula for
> > > >thinking this, just basic scripture regarding the last days as you've
> > > >mentioned as well, and a very real prompting I feel from God. For
> > > >sometime my wife and I have been watching old reruns via DVD of a TV
> > > >show here in the states called Little House on the Prairie. The
actual
> > > >place in which the real people on which the TV show was based upon
took
> > > >place here in Wisconsin only about 45 mins from here as well as a
couple
> > > >towns west of here , one of which loving Pat lives. My wife and I
are
> > > >both drawn to this show as it is a bit of a relief from the day to
day
> > > >hub-bub of today. In looking back at how people lived only a 100
years
> > > >or so and looking at the enroads and changes that have taken place,
> > > >especially after the implementation of computers it is staggering. We
> > > >have technology that will read these notes on your computer right
> > > >through the walls of your house from the street via magnetic
frequency
> > > >sensors, of course the RFID in which the article was written, and so
> > > >much more we likely do not even know. With the reliance of credit
cards
> > > >and other electronic money in this day and the power of companies
like
> > > >Walmart and etc. I believe it could happen within my lifetime yet in
> > > >which it be mandatory to have  a chip implant to buy or sell. You can
> > > >see this by Walmart's demanding that their suppliers have RFID or
they
> > > >will not buy the products from them. I see similar electronic money
in
> > > >the vending industry I'm in where in Japan they use Electronic
Wallets,
> > > >cell phones with electronic money in them where you wave the phone at
a
> > > >vending machine and make your selection. This chip technology could
well
> > > >be imposed upon the general public. I'm fourty years old now, I plan
to
> > > >live at least another of or 50 years, and when you look back at what
> > > >things were like 40 or 50 years ago and see the advancements,
> > > >impositions and etc. it is plain to me this mark can be upon us
within
> > > >the next handful of decades. Look at how quickly the security
measures
> > > >have changed since 911. Much can be accomplished if they wish it to,
and
> > > >all it takes is a good reason to mandate it in the name of safer
kids,
> > > >less crime, more efficient disbursement of food in a growing world or
> > > >perhaps with the continuation and likely never ending war on
terrorism,
> > > >a better way to monitor that situation. Of course you and I know
> > > >terrorist will find a way around it and leave the imposition of a
mark
> > > >upon those who are innocent. I agree things will become much more
> > > >reliant upon god's intervention to allow his people to survive. I
think
> > > >of David when Saul was planning to pin him to the wall for the
attention
> > > >he got for killing more enemies. David found himself in a survival
mode
> > > >yet relied on God. I believe that is what will occur when the mark is
> > > >imposed on people. Of course it will  not brought into place by
> > > >mandating it right off. It will be brought in as we have seen over
the
> > > >past years, little blips of it here and there to get people warmed up
to
> > > >the idea it is coming. Then a slight use of it such as we seen in
this
> > > >article, or as here in the USA, you cannot buy a dog from a breeder
or
> > > >from a pound without that pup having a chip in it's ear. After people
> > > >have been warmed up to it, they will create an incentive for people
to
> > > >get it, after an incentive, it will be made much harder and more of
an
> > > >inconvenience for anyone to get along without it, and finally then
they
> > > >will mandate it. I am not speaking prophetically as if sent from God,
I
> > > >just know human nature from living long enough in this world, and
> > > >believe God has given me some ability to read the writing on the wall
as
> > > >it were. I was pondering on this whole idea earlier and I  heard or
felt
> > > >a prompting to say that this mark, will not be like it was with Y2K
with
> > > >many people, it will not be a big emergency scare, nor a big after
> > > >thought of what to do with all the extra stuff bought in preparation.
It
> > > >is not something temporary in which we can rely on computers to fix
the
> > > >problem as in Y2K although it was the computers that were meant to be
> > > >the problem, but rather this will be a way  of life and will
continually
> > > >be harder to get along as time goes on.  Just as anyone, I have no
idea
> > > >when any of the end times things will take place, and we need be
careful
> > > >to not falsely proclaim the wars we hear of are the rumors of war
talked
> > > >about in scripture as wars have taken place since time began. There
are
> > > >so many things that can be made to fit Scripture's description of
latter
> > > >days, and we are no doubt in the latter days as was Jesus when he was
> > > >here, but we need be watchers as he has said, because he will come
> > > >seemingly very fast to those who have not been paying attention. I am
> > > >not an alarmist, I am not one given to paranoia, or to get excited
about
> > > >things at their first appearance as most things in the world are
> > > >temporary or will adjust or people make adjustments to and so
anxiety
> > > >is of no use. But this chip I feel in my heart, is the mark which
> > > >Scripture's talks. The size of these chips have gone down over the
years
> > > >I believe and will be able to be injected. Just think, even going to
the
> > > >doctor for a shot of meds could risk getting the mark without even
> > > >knowing it. None of our governments are past doing so without it's
> > > >citizens being aware. Things definitely will get interesting when
that
> > > >day comes upon people. What then will we , as Christians do and ought
we
> > > >prepare for such a day if we see it coming? And what preparatins
might
> > > >we do to protect our families and  fellow  Christians.
> > > >
> > > >Brad
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Personally, I liked the Waltons better.  Kathy  "Good night Jim Bob!"

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Date:         Mon, 30 Aug 2004 10:22:13 -0500
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Dear Lisa,

Thanks so much for your reply to my message.

I will go up on the web site and read your messages.

If I see anything new as far as reports about his condition, I will email
it to you privately.

Thanks much.

Love and Blessings,
Pat Ferguson



At 04:11 PM 8/28/04, you wrote:
>Thank you, Pat.  June and I just sent in a letter of our own.  This is a sad
>message indeed but I hope and pray, fervently pray, that he will soon be
>well again.
>Littlekat
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Pat Ferguson" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 6:37 PM
>Subject: Please pray for Dan Fogelberg
>
>
>Dear Loving EChurch Family,
>
>As you all know I love Dan Fogelberg's music and lyrics.
>
>He has recently been diagnosed with advanced prostate cancer.
>
>You can check this out at:
>
>http://www.danfogelberg.com/news.html
>
>You can send prayers to him, which he will reach at:
>
>http://www.thelivinglegacy.net
>
>There are over 1300 messages of prayers and love up there already, and it
>only started this week!
>
>Please keep him in your prayers.
>
>If you want me to post any of the replies here up there, I can do so. They
>will be posted as new messages and not replies.
>
>Thanks, and God Bless.
>
>Love and Blessings,
>Pat Ferguson
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Dear Joycey,

I'm Pat Ferguson, and I have talked to you a few times on the phone with Lisa.

I know what anxiety and panic atacks are like, and I am also afraide of dying.

I am glad you are on this list. I will be praying for you.

Remember, Jesus loves you a whole bunch. You will find this group to be
very loving! One thing, is that you are very loving also, and please don't
forget it.

Many lovings and squeezings for you.

Love and Blessings,
Pat Ferguson

At 05:02 PM 8/28/04, you wrote:
>I just wanted to come in and say hi and tell you a little bit ore about me.
>I have a black lab named Legend.  I love to read, collect recipes, play on
>the internet and I love stuffed animals.
>I've been struggling with a few things that I want to get people's thoughts
>on.  I've been praying more and getting closer to the Lord.  I started this
>when I began to have panic attachs and anxiety.  What I'm wondering is if
>people can shed any light on this.  Also my biggest fear is death.  I want
>to try and get over being so afraid of it.  Please everyone pray that I can
>conquer this.  Thanks for listening.
>
>If you let people continue to hurt you, you are only hurting yourself.
>
>Joycey
>visit my web site at:
>http://mysite.verizon.net/tamby3
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Oh of course!  I wouldn't miss the opportunity to pray for him.  That poor
guy!  I hope that the cancer goes into permanent remissioin.

Littlekat
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Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: Please pray for Dan Fogelberg


Dear Lisa,

Thanks so much for your reply to my message.

I will go up on the web site and read your messages.

If I see anything new as far as reports about his condition, I will email
it to you privately.

Thanks much.

Love and Blessings,
Pat Ferguson



At 04:11 PM 8/28/04, you wrote:
>Thank you, Pat.  June and I just sent in a letter of our own.  This is a
sad
>message indeed but I hope and pray, fervently pray, that he will soon be
>well again.
>Littlekat
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Pat Ferguson" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 6:37 PM
>Subject: Please pray for Dan Fogelberg
>
>
>Dear Loving EChurch Family,
>
>As you all know I love Dan Fogelberg's music and lyrics.
>
>He has recently been diagnosed with advanced prostate cancer.
>
>You can check this out at:
>
>http://www.danfogelberg.com/news.html
>
>You can send prayers to him, which he will reach at:
>
>http://www.thelivinglegacy.net
>
>There are over 1300 messages of prayers and love up there already, and it
>only started this week!
>
>Please keep him in your prayers.
>
>If you want me to post any of the replies here up there, I can do so. They
>will be posted as new messages and not replies.
>
>Thanks, and God Bless.
>
>Love and Blessings,
>Pat Ferguson
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You got that right Buff.  Unfortunately it seems churches are to busy trying to get big instead of helping out others.


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> Unfortunately, community is a thing of the past. Just call your local
> church and ask for something simple, like a ride to the doctor, and see if
> what I said is true or not.
>
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You got that right Buff.&nbsp; Unfortunately it seems churches are to busy trying to get big instead of helping out others. <BR><BR>
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I liked both of them bui I to like the Waltons better.


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> Personally, I liked the Waltons better. Kathy "Good night Jim Bob!"
>
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Date:         Mon, 30 Aug 2004 14:52:30 -0500
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Dear Lisa,

I think so far, you are the only one that has replied to that prayer
request. If anyone else has replied to that prayer request, I've not seen it.

Of course, it's always better when people can do what you and June did, to
go up on the web site and send the email, and it's also easier.

I know Dan and his wife, Jean will appreciate your love and prayers.

The power of love and prayer is strong, and God can heal anyone.

Love and Blessings,
Pat Ferguson


At 11:29 AM 8/30/04, you wrote:
>Oh of course!  I wouldn't miss the opportunity to pray for him.  That poor
>guy!  I hope that the cancer goes into permanent remissioin.
>
>Littlekat
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Pat Ferguson" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 11:22 AM
>Subject: Re: Please pray for Dan Fogelberg
>
>
>Dear Lisa,
>
>Thanks so much for your reply to my message.
>
>I will go up on the web site and read your messages.
>
>If I see anything new as far as reports about his condition, I will email
>it to you privately.
>
>Thanks much.
>
>Love and Blessings,
>Pat Ferguson
>
>
>
>At 04:11 PM 8/28/04, you wrote:
> >Thank you, Pat.  June and I just sent in a letter of our own.  This is a
>sad
> >message indeed but I hope and pray, fervently pray, that he will soon be
> >well again.
> >Littlekat
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Pat Ferguson" <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 6:37 PM
> >Subject: Please pray for Dan Fogelberg
> >
> >
> >Dear Loving EChurch Family,
> >
> >As you all know I love Dan Fogelberg's music and lyrics.
> >
> >He has recently been diagnosed with advanced prostate cancer.
> >
> >You can check this out at:
> >
> >http://www.danfogelberg.com/news.html
> >
> >You can send prayers to him, which he will reach at:
> >
> >http://www.thelivinglegacy.net
> >
> >There are over 1300 messages of prayers and love up there already, and it
> >only started this week!
> >
> >Please keep him in your prayers.
> >
> >If you want me to post any of the replies here up there, I can do so. They
> >will be posted as new messages and not replies.
> >
> >Thanks, and God Bless.
> >
> >Love and Blessings,
> >Pat Ferguson
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Pray for George in Oklahoma.  His daughter is very ill again and may have to
be taken back to the hospital.  She just got out two weeks ago.  Death is
very real at the moment for her, Jennifer, and for her parents, George and
Vivian.  Please do not take this request lightly.

Phil.
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Sending prayers Georgeward, Phil.

Peggy

At 07:05 PM 8/30/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>Pray for George in Oklahoma.  His daughter is very ill again and may have to
>be taken back to the hospital.  She just got out two weeks ago.  Death is
>very real at the moment for her, Jennifer, and for her parents, George and
>Vivian.  Please do not take this request lightly.
>
>Phil.

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Phil,

I just saw this message and I am praying for George and his daughter and
family right now, and I prayed before I replied to this message.

I agree with you, we should never take any prayer request lightly. I always
take them seriously no matter what they are.

Please tell them I'm praying for them.

Love and Blessings,
Pat Ferguson



At 08:05 PM 8/30/04, you wrote:
>Pray for George in Oklahoma.  His daughter is very ill again and may have to
>be taken back to the hospital.  She just got out two weeks ago.  Death is
>very real at the moment for her, Jennifer, and for her parents, George and
>Vivian.  Please do not take this request lightly.
>
>Phil.
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I had other prayer sessions tonight but I never got a voice mail from George
telling me they were on their way to the hospital and he always let's me
know.  His daughter, of course, is becoming very fearful and so are her
parents.  The only advice I could give George tonight is what God the Father
gave Israel in Deuteronomy 28 where He said, I place before you this day,
life or death.  Choose life that you may live.  I told George, keep choosing
life.  Please stop for a moment and try and imagine how heavy this burden
has become for the parents after 23 years.  Frankly, I simply cannot imagine
it myself.  The church they were in?  No one ever knew when Jennifer was, or
wasn't, in the hospital.  Advice they did get, free advice I might add, was
the old stand by, Well, keep your faith up, brother.  My question is, where
is their faith in their behalf for these hurting parents?

Buff.
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Praying, Phil.  Please tell George and give him my love in the Lord!


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Pray for George in Oklahoma.  His daughter is very ill again and may
have to be taken back to the hospital.  She just got out two weeks ago.
Death is very real at the moment for her, Jennifer, and for her parents,
George and Vivian.  Please do not take this request lightly.

Phil.

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Phil,
As Pat, I prayed immediately when I saw the message and will continue to
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Ned
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Hi all, well, as you all might or might not know I have a family who is
struggling.  Well, to make a long story really short, Gretchen Phils
daughter and my sister reminded me of each other in a lot of what Phil told
us.  Well, I am truly praising God yesterday I talked to my sister and alls
he could talk of was how she needed to help those in her work home start
being in the Word more.  It was so like wow shocking.  Sorry I know I sound
like a valley girl, but like wow is all i can say.  I was like God is this
my sis?  Is this really my sis who I have cried and prayed for all theese
what seems like  years/  I am truly hyappy.

I had to share that


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Date:         Tue, 31 Aug 2004 07:53:40 -0600
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That is great news, Lelia.

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Praising the Lord with you, Lelia!

Love,
Helen

Earlier, Lelia Struve wrote:
>Hi all, well, as you all might or might not know I have a family who is
>struggling.  Well, to make a long story really short, Gretchen Phils
>daughter and my sister reminded me of each other in a lot of what Phil told
>us.  Well, I am truly praising God yesterday I talked to my sister and alls
>he could talk of was how she needed to help those in her work home start
>being in the Word more.  It was so like wow shocking.  Sorry I know I sound
>like a valley girl, but like wow is all i can say.  I was like God is this
>my sis?  Is this really my sis who I have cried and prayed for all theese
>what seems like  years/  I am truly hyappy.
>
>I had to share that
>
>
>Lelia Struve email [log in to unmask] msn [log in to unmask]
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Dear Lelia,

I'm Praising God with you! That's wonderful news.

I'm working on my family, but none of them know the Lord like I do.

That brings me to a family prayer request I'll do very shortly.

Please do keep us posted on her progress. Praying for you and Todd also.

Love and Blessings,
Pat Ferguson



At 08:26 AM 8/31/04, you wrote:
>Hi all, well, as you all might or might not know I have a family who is
>struggling.  Well, to make a long story really short, Gretchen Phils
>daughter and my sister reminded me of each other in a lot of what Phil told
>us.  Well, I am truly praising God yesterday I talked to my sister and alls
>he could talk of was how she needed to help those in her work home start
>being in the Word more.  It was so like wow shocking.  Sorry I know I sound
>like a valley girl, but like wow is all i can say.  I was like God is this
>my sis?  Is this really my sis who I have cried and prayed for all theese
>what seems like  years/  I am truly hyappy.
>
>I had to share that
>
>
>Lelia Struve email [log in to unmask] msn [log in to unmask]
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Lelia, we all rejoice with you about this!  Keep praying for her and
gently lead her on.


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Hi all, well, as you all might or might not know I have a family who is
struggling.  Well, to make a long story really short, Gretchen Phils
daughter and my sister reminded me of each other in a lot of what Phil
told us.  Well, I am truly praising God yesterday I talked to my sister
and alls he could talk of was how she needed to help those in her work
home start being in the Word more.  It was so like wow shocking.  Sorry
I know I sound like a valley girl, but like wow is all i can say.  I was
like God is this my sis?  Is this really my sis who I have cried and
prayed for all theese what seems like  years/  I am truly hyappy.

I had to share that


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Pat I know how you feel and will be praying for you to have the strength to
lead your family to our Lord.

Thanks

hugs


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> Dear Lelia,
>
> I'm Praising God with you! That's wonderful news.
>
> I'm working on my family, but none of them know the Lord like I do.
>
> That brings me to a family prayer request I'll do very shortly.
>
> Please do keep us posted on her progress. Praying for you and Todd also.
>
> Love and Blessings,
> Pat Ferguson
>
>
>
> At 08:26 AM 8/31/04, you wrote:
> >Hi all, well, as you all might or might not know I have a family who is
> >struggling.  Well, to make a long story really short, Gretchen Phils
> >daughter and my sister reminded me of each other in a lot of what Phil
told
> >us.  Well, I am truly praising God yesterday I talked to my sister and
alls
> >he could talk of was how she needed to help those in her work home start
> >being in the Word more.  It was so like wow shocking.  Sorry I know I
sound
> >like a valley girl, but like wow is all i can say.  I was like God is
this
> >my sis?  Is this really my sis who I have cried and prayed for all theese
> >what seems like  years/  I am truly hyappy.
> >
> >I had to share that
> >
> >
> >Lelia Struve email [log in to unmask] msn [log in to unmask]
>
>
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I pray that the Lord gives George and Vivian the peace and love they need to handle this situation.  And that he touches Jennifer and heals her.  But if he decides to bring her home that it will be a peaceful and precious time for all of them and he ministers to them.  And that they have the reassurance that they will be with her again in Heaven.


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> Pray for George in Oklahoma. His daughter is very ill again and may have to
> be taken back to the hospital. She just got out two weeks ago. Death is
> very real at the moment for her, Jennifer, and for her parents, George and
> Vivian. Please do not take this request lightly.
>
> Phil.
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I pray that the Lord gives George and Vivian the peace and love they need to handle this situation.&nbsp; And that he touches Jennifer and heals her.&nbsp; But if he decides to bring her home that it will be a peaceful and precious time for all of them and he ministers to them.&nbsp; And that they have the reassurance that they will be with her again in Heaven.<BR><BR>
<DIV class=signature id=signature>--<BR>In any kind of circumstance PRAY <BR><BR>Karen Carter 74'</DIV><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR><BR>&gt; Pray for George in Oklahoma. His daughter is very ill again and may have to <BR>&gt; be taken back to the hospital. She just got out two weeks ago. Death is <BR>&gt; very real at the moment for her, Jennifer, and for her parents, George and <BR>&gt; Vivian. Please do not take this request lightly. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Phil. </BLOCKQUOTE></body></html>

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I agree Pat.


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> Phil,
>
> I just saw this message and I am praying for George and his daughter and
> family right now, and I prayed before I replied to this message.
>
> I agree with you, we should never take any prayer request lightly. I always
> take them seriously no matter what they are.
>
> Please tell them I'm praying for them.
>
> Love and Blessings,
> Pat Ferguson
>
>
>
> At 08:05 PM 8/30/04, you wrote:
> >Pray for George in Oklahoma. His daughter is very ill again and may have to
> >be taken back to the hospital. She just got out two weeks ago. Death is
> >very real at the moment for her, Jennifer, and for her parents, George and
> >Vivian. Please do not take this request lightly.
> >
> >Phil.
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I agree Pat. <BR><BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR><BR>&gt; Phil, <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I just saw this message and I am praying for George and his daughter and <BR>&gt; family right now, and I prayed before I replied to this message. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I agree with you, we should never take any prayer request lightly. I always <BR>&gt; take them seriously no matter what they are. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Please tell them I'm praying for them. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Love and Blessings, <BR>&gt; Pat Ferguson <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; At 08:05 PM 8/30/04, you wrote: <BR>&gt; &gt;Pray for George in Oklahoma. His daughter is very ill again and may have to <BR>&gt; &gt;be taken back to the hospital. She just got out two weeks ago. Death is <BR>&gt; &gt;very real at the moment for her, Jennifer, and for her parents, George and <BR>&gt; &gt;Vivian. Please do not take this request lightly. <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;Phil. </BLOCKQUOTE></body></html>

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I know one thing God haves to be truly greiving over the church not days.  My prayer has been that the church opens it eyes and starts getting back to what God intended for nto wanting to just play the numbers game.  God wants the church to love and take care of one another.  Something the church does not seem like it is doing.


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> I had other prayer sessions tonight but I never got a voice mail from George
> telling me they were on their way to the hospital and he always let's me
> know. His daughter, of course, is becoming very fearful and so are her
> parents. The only advice I could give George tonight is what God the Father
> gave Israel in Deuteronomy 28 where He said, I place before you this day,
> life or death. Choose life that you may live. I told George, keep choosing
> life. Please stop for a moment and try and imagine how heavy this burden
> has become for the parents after 23 years. Frankly, I simply cannot imagine
> it myself. The church they were in? No one ever knew when Jennifer was, or
> wasn't, in the hospital. Advice they did get, free advice I might add, was
> the old stand by, Well, keep your faith up, brother. My question is, where
> is their faith in their behalf for these hurting parents?
>
> Buff.
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I know one thing God haves to be truly greiving over the church not days.&nbsp; My prayer has been that the church opens it eyes and starts getting back to what God intended for nto wanting to just play the numbers game.&nbsp; God wants the church to love and take care of one another.&nbsp; Something the church does not seem like it is doing.<BR><BR>
<DIV class=signature id=signature>--<BR>In any kind of circumstance PRAY <BR><BR>Karen Carter 74'</DIV><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR><BR>&gt; I had other prayer sessions tonight but I never got a voice mail from George <BR>&gt; telling me they were on their way to the hospital and he always let's me <BR>&gt; know. His daughter, of course, is becoming very fearful and so are her <BR>&gt; parents. The only advice I could give George tonight is what God the Father <BR>&gt; gave Israel in Deuteronomy 28 where He said, I place before you this day, <BR>&gt; life or death. Choose life that you may live. I told George, keep choosing <BR>&gt; life. Please stop for a moment and try and imagine how heavy this burden <BR>&gt; has become for the parents after 23 years. Frankly, I simply cannot imagine <BR>&gt; it myself. The church they were in? No one ever knew when Jennifer was, or <BR>&gt; wasn't, in the hospital. Advice they did get, free advice I might add, was <BR>&gt; the old stand by, Well, keep your faith up, brother. My question is, where <BR>&gt; is their faith in their behalf for these hurting parents? <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Buff. </BLOCKQUOTE></body></html>

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Hey Guys,
I won't bother you with the gorey details, but Chris has had another bad
spell.  We had to call the police again this morning, but they basicly
did nothing except talk to him.  They don't think that his behavior was
bad enough tohave the D A consider it.  We've called Eric and, he had an
opening for tomorrow morning.  Greg and I will go for sure, but  Chris is
an unknoown at this point.  Just pray for us guys.  I'm sick of this.
Kathy

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Prais the Lord.  I will pray that he will keep her strong and focust on him.  Amen


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> Hi all, well, as you all might or might not know I have a family who is
> struggling. Well, to make a long story really short, Gretchen Phils
> daughter and my sister reminded me of each other in a lot of what Phil told
> us. Well, I am truly praising God yesterday I talked to my sister and alls
> he could talk of was how she needed to help those in her work home start
> being in the Word more. It was so like wow shocking. Sorry I know I sound
> like a valley girl, but like wow is all i can say. I was like God is this
> my sis? Is this really my sis who I have cried and prayed for all theese
> what seems like years/ I am truly hyappy.
>
> I had to share that
>
>
> Lelia Struve email [log in to unmask] msn [log in to unmask]
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Prais the Lord.&nbsp; I will pray that he will keep her strong and focust on him.&nbsp; Amen<BR><BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR><BR>&gt; Hi all, well, as you all might or might not know I have a family who is <BR>&gt; struggling. Well, to make a long story really short, Gretchen Phils <BR>&gt; daughter and my sister reminded me of each other in a lot of what Phil told <BR>&gt; us. Well, I am truly praising God yesterday I talked to my sister and alls <BR>&gt; he could talk of was how she needed to help those in her work home start <BR>&gt; being in the Word more. It was so like wow shocking. Sorry I know I sound <BR>&gt; like a valley girl, but like wow is all i can say. I was like God is this <BR>&gt; my sis? Is this really my sis who I have cried and prayed for all theese <BR>&gt; what seems like years/ I am truly hyappy. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I had to share that <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Lelia Struve email [log in to unmask] msn [log in to unmask] </BLOCKQUOTE></body></html>

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I got saved in 1967.  And have been praying that my brothers would come to the Lord.  I know they can but I am praying that when God  calls they answer.  I keep rpayinga and telling them the good things God has done and can do for them.

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> Dear Lelia,
>
> I'm Praising God with you! That's wonderful news.
>
> I'm working on my family, but none of them know the Lord like I do.
>
> That brings me to a family prayer request I'll do very shortly.
>
> Please do keep us posted on her progress. Praying for you and Todd also.
>
> Love and Blessings,
> Pat Ferguson
>
>
>
> At 08:26 AM 8/31/04, you wrote:
> >Hi all, well, as you all might or might not know I have a family who is
> >struggling. Well, to make a long story really short, Gretchen Phils
> >daughter and my sister reminded me of each other in a lot of what Phil told
> >us. Well, I am truly praising God yesterday I talked to my sister and alls
> >he could talk of was how she needed to help those in her work home start
> >being in the Word more. It was so like wow shocking. Sorry I know I sound
> >like a valley girl, but like wow is all i can say. I was like God is this
> >my sis? Is this really my sis who I have cried and prayed for all theese
> >what seems like years/ I am truly hyappy.
> >
> >I had to share that
> >
> >
> >Lelia Struve email [log in to unmask] msn [log in to unmask]
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<BR>I got saved in 1967.&nbsp; And have been praying that my brothers would come to the Lord.&nbsp; I know they can but I am praying that when God&nbsp; calls they answer.&nbsp; I keep rpayinga and telling them the good things God has done and can do for them.<BR>
<DIV class=signature id=signature>--<BR>In any kind of circumstance PRAY <BR><BR>Karen Carter 74'</DIV><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR><BR>&gt; Dear Lelia, <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I'm Praising God with you! That's wonderful news. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I'm working on my family, but none of them know the Lord like I do. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; That brings me to a family prayer request I'll do very shortly. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Please do keep us posted on her progress. Praying for you and Todd also. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Love and Blessings, <BR>&gt; Pat Ferguson <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; At 08:26 AM 8/31/04, you wrote: <BR>&gt; &gt;Hi all, well, as you all might or might not know I have a family who is <BR>&gt; &gt;struggling. Well, to make a long story really short, Gretchen Phils <BR>&gt; &gt;daughter and my sister reminded me of each other in a lot of what Phil told <BR>&gt; &gt;us. Well, I am truly praising God yesterday I talked to my sister and alls <BR>&gt; &gt;he could talk of was how she needed to help those in her work home start <BR>&gt; &gt;being in the Word more. It was so like wow shocking. Sorry I know I sound <BR>&gt; &gt;like a valley girl, but like wow is all i can say. I was like God is this <BR>&gt; &gt;my sis? Is this really my sis who I have cried and prayed for all theese <BR>&gt; &gt;what seems like years/ I am truly hyappy. <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;I had to share that <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;Lelia Struve email [log in to unmask] msn [log in to unmask] </BLOCKQUOTE></body></html>

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Lord put your arms around Kathy and Greg.  Iknow they know your love and peace.  Keep them strong.  And Lord please touch Chris and heal him give him your peace let him know you are truly there.  I am sure he knows but if he has any unbelief give him the belief.  I ask this in your Holy name Amen


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> Hey Guys,
> I won't bother you with the gorey details, but Chris has had another bad
> spell. We had to call the police again this morning, but they basicly
> did nothing except talk to him. They don't think that his behavior was
> bad enough tohave the D A consider it. We've called Eric and, he had an
> opening for tomorrow morning. Greg and I will go for sure, but Chris is
> an unknoown at this point. Just pray for us guys. I'm sick of this.
> Kathy
>
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Lord put your arms around Kathy and Greg.&nbsp; Iknow they know your love and peace.&nbsp; Keep them strong.&nbsp; And Lord please touch Chris and heal him give him your peace let him know you are truly there.&nbsp; I am sure he knows but if he has any unbelief give him the belief.&nbsp; I ask this in your Holy name Amen<BR><BR>
<DIV class=signature id=signature>--<BR>In any kind of circumstance PRAY <BR><BR>Karen Carter 74'</DIV><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR><BR>&gt; Hey Guys, <BR>&gt; I won't bother you with the gorey details, but Chris has had another bad <BR>&gt; spell. We had to call the police again this morning, but they basicly <BR>&gt; did nothing except talk to him. They don't think that his behavior was <BR>&gt; bad enough tohave the D A consider it. We've called Eric and, he had an <BR>&gt; opening for tomorrow morning. Greg and I will go for sure, but Chris is <BR>&gt; an unknoown at this point. Just pray for us guys. I'm sick of this. <BR>&gt; Kathy <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; ________________________________________________________________ <BR>&gt; The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! <BR>&gt; Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! <BR>&gt; Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! </BLOCKQUOTE></body></html>

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Praying with you guys, Kathy.

Phil.
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Karen,  I say a loud AMEN to your prayer for Greg, Kathy, and Chris.

In His Love,
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>Lord put your arms around Kathy and Greg.  Iknow they know your love and
>peace.  Keep them strong.  And Lord please touch Chris and heal him give
>him your peace let him know you are truly there.  I am sure he knows but
>if he has any unbelief give him the belief.  I ask this in your Holy name Amen
>
>
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>
>
>-------------- Original message --------------
>
> > Hey Guys,
> > I won't bother you with the gorey details, but Chris has had another bad
> > spell. We had to call the police again this morning, but they basicly
> > did nothing except talk to him. They don't think that his behavior was
> > bad enough tohave the D A consider it. We've called Eric and, he had an
> > opening for tomorrow morning. Greg and I will go for sure, but Chris is
> > an unknoown at this point. Just pray for us guys. I'm sick of this.
> > Kathy
> >
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>Lord put your arms around Kathy and Greg.  Iknow they know your love and
>peace.  Keep them strong.  And Lord please touch Chris and heal him give
>him your peace let him know you are truly there.  I am sure he knows but
>if he has any unbelief give him the belief.  I ask this in your Holy name Amen
>
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>
>Karen Carter 74'
>
>-------------- Original message --------------
>
> > Hey Guys,
> > I won't bother you with the gorey details, but Chris has had another bad
> > spell. We had to call the police again this morning, but they basicly
> > did nothing except talk to him. They don't think that his behavior was
> > bad enough tohave the D A consider it. We've called Eric and, he had an
> > opening for tomorrow morning. Greg and I will go for sure, but Chris is
> > an unknoown at this point. Just pray for us guys. I'm sick of this.
> > Kathy
> >
> > ________________________________________________________________
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On a brighter note, the contractor has stepped up his attention to our
house.  The dry waller is coming tomorrow and he is hoping to have the
place done in under two weeks.  Unfortunately, it really is true that the
squeaky wheel getes the grease.  I'd probably be writing a more exciting
and detailed message, but I am so emotionally drained right now that it's
hard to be excited.  I'm sorry guys.  I really am.  Maybae, when I
finally feel safe enough to cry and releave some of this tention,
evereything will be set right again within me.  It's like a cloud burst
waiting to happen.

Please pray that Chris  will go with us to Eric's tomorrow.
Kathy

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Date:         Tue, 31 Aug 2004 15:51:24 -0400
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Lelia,
That is wonderful!  I am happy with you.

Ned
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Kathy,
My heart is heavy with concern for you and Greg as you deal with Chris and
for Chris as he deals with life.  I am encouraged though that God can heal
them and set him on the right path.  I am praying to that end.  Do what you
have to do and do it because you love your son and your Lord.  God knows
your frustration and your agner at the devil for his work in Chris' life.
God knows, too, how to change it all to His glory.  Praise Him!
Hang in there, Kathy, a better day is coming!

Ned
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Kathy, I pray that you will experience Jesus stretching out His Hand over
the waves of turmoil of your troubled spirit and soul, hearing Him say,
"Peace, be still".  I hurt with you, and do understand what you mean by
it's like a cloud burst waiting to happen.
God bless you, my precious sister.
Love,
Helen

Earlier, Kathy Du Bois wrote:
>On a brighter note, the contractor has stepped up his attention to our
>house.  The dry waller is coming tomorrow and he is hoping to have the
>place done in under two weeks.  Unfortunately, it really is true that the
>squeaky wheel getes the grease.  I'd probably be writing a more exciting
>and detailed message, but I am so emotionally drained right now that it's
>hard to be excited.  I'm sorry guys.  I really am.  Maybae, when I
>finally feel safe enough to cry and releave some of this tention,
>evereything will be set right again within me.  It's like a cloud burst
>waiting to happen.
>
>Please pray that Chris  will go with us to Eric's tomorrow.
>Kathy
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Thanks Ned,
What is so frustrating is that the police don't feel that there is much
that they can do either.  Greg and I left the house for about four hours,
just to relieve the tention and when we got back Chris was filled with
glea and said something like, "just as i figured, the police can't do
anything either as long as you can't prove that I touched you."  What has
this overly tolerant society done to our children?
Kathy

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Thank you Helen and Karen.  Kathy

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Date:         Tue, 31 Aug 2004 16:21:16 -0400
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Kathy,
It is quite frustrating.  It is terrible what we have done to this once
Christian nation.  We have so restricted the freedoms of the lawful to
protect the rights of the lawless.  Something wrong with this picture!  Is
it any wonder that our country is so off track when the leaders have stopped
leading and the teachers have stopping properly teaching.  Parents who wish
to follow the teachings of the Lord are hindered by the laws of the land.
What a shame.  "Even so, come Lord Jesus"

Ned
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Kathy,

It most certainly is frustrating when our own children begin using our own
government against us.  As with my daughter, however, she finally went so
far, she nearly ended up in prison.  Last weekend, a former friend stopped
by my son's house.  They went to Christian school together.  He was 280
pounds when he was just 15 years old.  He has been in a ton of trouble since
high school and while in high school, he and a friend broke into a family's
home and beat their son nearly to death with baseball bats.  My daughter saw
him standing out in the yard alone so she went to witness to him.  She began
by telling him how she no longer smoked cigarettes since he was smoking at
that moment.  Within less than two minutes, he was offering her a line of
cocaine.  She turned and walked away from him.  She passed her first test
and all by herself.  Chris will cross over the fine line eventually and he
won't find dealing with the police as enjoyable and as exciting as he does
now.  Until then, we just keep praying.

Phil.
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Kathy, know that I am praying for you.  It hurts my heart when someone I care about is hurting.  But know that God is there and he see aech tear that falls and hears you when you call.  I am and will pray that Chris meets with you tomorrow.  you are in Jesus hands so nothing can hurt you.


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> On a brighter note, the contractor has stepped up his attention to our
> house. The dry waller is coming tomorrow and he is hoping to have the
> place done in under two weeks. Unfortunately, it really is true that the
> squeaky wheel getes the grease. I'd probably be writing a more exciting
> and detailed message, but I am so emotionally drained right now that it's
> hard to be excited. I'm sorry guys. I really am. Maybae, when I
> finally feel safe enough to cry and releave some of this tention,
> evereything will be set right again within me. It's like a cloud burst
> waiting to happen.
>
> Please pray that Chris will go with us to Eric's tomorrow.
> Kathy
>
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Kathy, know that I am praying for you.&nbsp; It hurts my heart when someone I care about is hurting.&nbsp; But know that God is there and he see aech tear that falls and hears you when you call.&nbsp; I am and will pray that Chris meets with you tomorrow.&nbsp; you are in Jesus hands so nothing can hurt you.&nbsp; <BR><BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR><BR>&gt; On a brighter note, the contractor has stepped up his attention to our <BR>&gt; house. The dry waller is coming tomorrow and he is hoping to have the <BR>&gt; place done in under two weeks. Unfortunately, it really is true that the <BR>&gt; squeaky wheel getes the grease. I'd probably be writing a more exciting <BR>&gt; and detailed message, but I am so emotionally drained right now that it's <BR>&gt; hard to be excited. I'm sorry guys. I really am. Maybae, when I <BR>&gt; finally feel safe enough to cry and releave some of this tention, <BR>&gt; evereything will be set right again within me. It's like a cloud burst <BR>&gt; waiting to happen. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Please pray that Chris will go with us to Eric's tomorrow. <BR>&gt; Kathy <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; ________________________________________________________________ <BR>&gt; The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! <BR>&gt; Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! <BR>&gt; Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! </BLOCKQUOTE></body></html>

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Oh Phil,
I pray that you are wrong, but if that day does  come, I am not looking
forward to it.  He had been doing so well too.
Kathy

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Date:         Tue, 31 Aug 2004 14:53:47 -0600
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Well, Kathy,

I am praying he goes tomorrow but I am praying for more than that.

Phil.
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Keep praying I know its hard and it seems hopeless but pray


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> I got saved in 1967.  And have been praying that my brothers would come to
the Lord.  I know they can but I am praying that when God  calls they
answer.  I keep rpayinga and telling them the good things God has done and
can do for them.
>
> --
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>
> Karen Carter 74'
>
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
>
> > Dear Lelia,
> >
> > I'm Praising God with you! That's wonderful news.
> >
> > I'm working on my family, but none of them know the Lord like I do.
> >
> > That brings me to a family prayer request I'll do very shortly.
> >
> > Please do keep us posted on her progress. Praying for you and Todd also.
> >
> > Love and Blessings,
> > Pat Ferguson
> >
> >
> >
> > At 08:26 AM 8/31/04, you wrote:
> > >Hi all, well, as you all might or might not know I have a family who is
> > >struggling. Well, to make a long story really short, Gretchen Phils
> > >daughter and my sister reminded me of each other in a lot of what Phil
told
> > >us. Well, I am truly praising God yesterday I talked to my sister and
alls
> > >he could talk of was how she needed to help those in her work home
start
> > >being in the Word more. It was so like wow shocking. Sorry I know I
sound
> > >like a valley girl, but like wow is all i can say. I was like God is
this
> > >my sis? Is this really my sis who I have cried and prayed for all
theese
> > >what seems like years/ I am truly hyappy.
> > >
> > >I had to share that
> > >
> > >
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> <BR>I got saved in 1967.&nbsp; And have been praying that my brothers
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God&nbsp; calls they answer.&nbsp; I keep rpayinga and telling them the good
things God has done and can do for them.<BR>
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<BR><BR>&gt; Dear Lelia, <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I'm Praising God with you! That's
wonderful news. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I'm working on my family, but none of them
know the Lord like I do. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; That brings me to a family prayer
request I'll do very shortly. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Please do keep us posted on
her progress. Praying for you and Todd also. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Love and
Blessings, <BR>&gt; Pat Ferguson <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; At
08:26 AM 8/31/04, you wrote: <BR>&gt; &gt;Hi all, well, as you all might or
might not know I have a family who is <BR>&gt; &gt;struggling. Well, to make
a long story really short, Gretchen Phils <BR>&gt; &gt;daughter and my
sister reminded me of each other in a lot of what Phil told <BR>&gt; &gt;us.
Well, I am truly praising God yesterday I talked to my sister and alls
<BR>&gt; &gt;he could talk of was how she needed to help those in her work
home start <BR>&gt; &gt;being in the Word more. It was so like wow shocking.
Sorry I know I sound <BR>&gt; &gt;like a valley girl, but like wow is all i
can say. I was like God is this <BR>&gt; &gt;my sis? Is this really my sis
who I have cried and prayed for all theese <BR>&gt; &gt;what seems like
years/ I am truly hyappy. <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;I had to share that
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I am praying and I will tell my husband and we will pray for you during our
nightly prayers together

hugs


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> Hey Guys,
> I won't bother you with the gorey details, but Chris has had another bad
> spell.  We had to call the police again this morning, but they basicly
> did nothing except talk to him.  They don't think that his behavior was
> bad enough tohave the D A consider it.  We've called Eric and, he had an
> opening for tomorrow morning.  Greg and I will go for sure, but  Chris is
> an unknoown at this point.  Just pray for us guys.  I'm sick of this.
> Kathy
>
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Amen Ned amen


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> Kathy,
> It is quite frustrating.  It is terrible what we have done to this once
> Christian nation.  We have so restricted the freedoms of the lawful to
> protect the rights of the lawless.  Something wrong with this picture!  Is
> it any wonder that our country is so off track when the leaders have
stopped
> leading and the teachers have stopping properly teaching.  Parents who
wish
> to follow the teachings of the Lord are hindered by the laws of the land.
> What a shame.  "Even so, come Lord Jesus"
>
> Ned
>
>
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Phil, that is truly a praise report concerning your daughter I am so happy
for you and your family.

hugs to you all and Kathy it is hard I know but remember that we are a
family and what one goes through we all do in our hearts for and with you.


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> Kathy,
>
> It most certainly is frustrating when our own children begin using our own
> government against us.  As with my daughter, however, she finally went so
> far, she nearly ended up in prison.  Last weekend, a former friend stopped
> by my son's house.  They went to Christian school together.  He was 280
> pounds when he was just 15 years old.  He has been in a ton of trouble
since
> high school and while in high school, he and a friend broke into a
family's
> home and beat their son nearly to death with baseball bats.  My daughter
saw
> him standing out in the yard alone so she went to witness to him.  She
began
> by telling him how she no longer smoked cigarettes since he was smoking at
> that moment.  Within less than two minutes, he was offering her a line of
> cocaine.  She turned and walked away from him.  She passed her first test
> and all by herself.  Chris will cross over the fine line eventually and he
> won't find dealing with the police as enjoyable and as exciting as he does
> now.  Until then, we just keep praying.
>
> Phil.
>
>
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Lelia, that's neat.

Sandy
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Kathy, believe me, I know what you are feeling and going through.  It is
very difficult.  Will continue to pray for you.  I can say, though, that no
matter what, the Lord is faithful.

Sandy
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Kathy,

I'm praying for you and Greg. I'm also praying for Chris that the Lord will
reveal himself to him.

Love and Blessings,
Pat Ferguson


At 01:04 PM 8/31/04, you wrote:
>Hey Guys,
>I won't bother you with the gorey details, but Chris has had another bad
>spell.  We had to call the police again this morning, but they basicly
>did nothing except talk to him.  They don't think that his behavior was
>bad enough tohave the D A consider it.  We've called Eric and, he had an
>opening for tomorrow morning.  Greg and I will go for sure, but  Chris is
>an unknoown at this point.  Just pray for us guys.  I'm sick of this.
>Kathy
>
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Loving Kathy,

I know what you are feeling. I just wish I could give you a big squeeze
right now.

If you want you can call me tonight. I would love to chat with you. I can
even call you back so it will not cost you anything.

I'm praying for this meeting tomorrow about Chris. I pray everything goes
well, and that your spirit is uplifted, and that your stress is completely
gone. I pray for comfort and peace. It's good to cry. <squeeze>

Many lovings and squeezings for you.

Love and Blessings,
Pat Ferguson



At 02:45 PM 8/31/04, you wrote:
>On a brighter note, the contractor has stepped up his attention to our
>house.  The dry waller is coming tomorrow and he is hoping to have the
>place done in under two weeks.  Unfortunately, it really is true that the
>squeaky wheel getes the grease.  I'd probably be writing a more exciting
>and detailed message, but I am so emotionally drained right now that it's
>hard to be excited.  I'm sorry guys.  I really am.  Maybae, when I
>finally feel safe enough to cry and releave some of this tention,
>evereything will be set right again within me.  It's like a cloud burst
>waiting to happen.
>
>Please pray that Chris  will go with us to Eric's tomorrow.
>Kathy
>
>________________________________________________________________
>The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!
>Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!
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Bless your heart, Kathy.

Praying.  On way to class.

Vicki

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From: "Kathy Du Bois" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 12:04 PM
Subject: My son Chris, again!


> Hey Guys,
> I won't bother you with the gorey details, but Chris has had another bad
> spell.  We had to call the police again this morning, but they basicly
> did nothing except talk to him.  They don't think that his behavior was
> bad enough tohave the D A consider it.  We've called Eric and, he had an
> opening for tomorrow morning.  Greg and I will go for sure, but  Chris is
> an unknoown at this point.  Just pray for us guys.  I'm sick of this.
> Kathy
>
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Date:         Tue, 31 Aug 2004 17:54:54 -0600
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Happy birthday, Sandy.  And may God grant you many more.  You're a blessing
to us on this list.

Vicki.
Wonder if I should duck for cover.  Smile!!! Tee Hee! .
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Date:         Tue, 31 Aug 2004 19:50:30 -0400
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Thank you Sandy and Lelia, and everybody really!  I am so glad that I
have all of you to turn to when this stuff happens.

This evening, I just couldn't stand it any more.  Chris was in the
kitchen and I went out to him and I asked if I could have a hug.  At
first he resisted, but then, he yielded and gave me a big hug and kiss
and appologized.  He admitted  that he's stressed out with school
starting and drivers Ed. and his job.  I just listened and didn't lecture
or anything.  I pray that he will go back to Eric because his way of
handling stress is really inappropriate and he needs to learn some
techniques for handling it better.  Plus, there is this whole legal
thing!!  The police were a joke today.  How frustrating!

By the way, remember the court date that we had for last March?  Well, we
found out more about what happened to that today.  We started  int
calling around on our own, after the police walked out on us.  We called
our local probation officer and found out that she still had our name
from last March, but that the charges had been dropped.  Really?  Not by
us!!  We had been told to wait for the paper work to catch up with the
case so we trusted in the system.  Oh, foolish us!  We didn't drop the
case, the officer did, evidently.  Now, Greg has called that officer back
to find out why, but, of course, he hasn't returned the call yet.  I
think that the policeman today was almost laughing at us.  Chris had put
a fist on my chin and then said that he would rather beat up Greg, rather
than a blind woman, so he called Greg on the phone and tried to have him
walk into an ambush.  I mannaged to get out and met Greg in the driveway
and told him not to go in.  He had started banging things around while I
was still in the house and it had sounded as if he had smashed the
digital camera so I was glad to get out.    We called the police on the
cell phone in the driveway and the police said that that wasn't enough to
charge Chris with criminal intent.  The policeman said that he would have
to be able to prove that Chris was trying to kill us or himself before he
could do anything.  We have nowhere to send him and no one will take him.
 Oh, I'm so sick of Maine!!  If that doesn't prove that Chris has all the
rights under the law, I don't know what does.  Oh sure, we can take stuff
away, and if he doesn't like it and trashes the house, we truthfully face
at least a fifty fifty chance that the courts will side with him that
we're just too controling.  You really have to be a creative parent today
to survive.  Oh well, enough venting for one note.
God bless, everybody and thanks for the prayers.  I just pray that  Chris
will go see Eric tomorrow, but, it's not looking too good for our team at
this point.
Kathy

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Date:         Tue, 31 Aug 2004 17:56:29 -0600
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What an awesome praise, Lelia.

Vicki

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Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 7:26 AM
Subject: my sister praise report


> Hi all, well, as you all might or might not know I have a family who is
> struggling.  Well, to make a long story really short, Gretchen Phils
> daughter and my sister reminded me of each other in a lot of what Phil
told
> us.  Well, I am truly praising God yesterday I talked to my sister and
alls
> he could talk of was how she needed to help those in her work home start
> being in the Word more.  It was so like wow shocking.  Sorry I know I
sound
> like a valley girl, but like wow is all i can say.  I was like God is this
> my sis?  Is this really my sis who I have cried and prayed for all theese
> what seems like  years/  I am truly hyappy.
>
> I had to share that
>
>
> Lelia Struve email [log in to unmask] msn [log in to unmask]
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Date:         Tue, 31 Aug 2004 19:53:38 -0400
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Pat, Pat, not so tight!  I can't breathe!  I love you too Pat!  Kathy

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Date:         Tue, 31 Aug 2004 19:55:19 -0400
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You're sure right Vicki, she helps us keep Phil in line!  Happy birthday
Sandy!  Kathy

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Date:         Tue, 31 Aug 2004 19:08:18 -0500
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Dear Loving EChurch Family,

I will never stop loving people. I will never stop telling people they are
loving. I will never stop calling people that I love, Loving. No matter
what anyone says. If God tells me to stop, then I will. He has told me to
continue to always love and to give the love He so freely gives us.

Now for my prayer request.

Sunday night, I had just gotten into bed, and I realized I needed to call
my brother Harvey to wish him a Happy Birthday. This was on the 29th of
August. I told Vernon this, and I got up and went down stairs to my BNS and
called the number.

At first, I got the answering machine, and It was interrupted by his
"signifficant Other" Debbie.

I talked to her, and asked her if I could talk to Harvey. She told me he
wasn't there. Then she told me that he was in "finishing school." I didn't
quite understand that, so I inquired as to what she ment. She then told me
he was in jail. She made me promise her that I would not tell Mom that she
told me. I guess Mom doesn't want anyone in the family except Joe to know
where Harvey is. I don't understand why she always protecks Harvey. She use
to do this with Ron, also.

I promissed Debbie that I would not say anything to Mom about what she told
me. We talked for over 2 hours.

It all boils down to the fact that Harvey has had another  D.W.I. again. I
don't know how many of them he has had.

I also found out from Debbie that Mom has had some health issues lately.
She's having problems breathing. I told Debbie that I've heard Mom wheese
before and I had mentioned it to my older sister, Sherilyn.

Debbie informed me that Mom was scared one night, when she couldn't hardly
breathe. She was ready to call an ambulance but she didn't. I guess she
went to the doctor, and she has since quit smoking. They exrayed her lungs
and nothing shows up and they are clear.

Debbie told me that Mom probably has C.O.P.D. Debbie is a nurse.

This was also something Mom doesn't want anyone in the family to know
about. I assured Debbie that I would not say anything about it to her.

Please pray that when I call Mom that she is doing much better, and please
pray we don't have any problems. I will not call her loving, and I will not
tell her she is Loving, unless God tells me to.

I do love her a bunch, and I am really worried about her. I'm also
concerned about what she has told the family about our little spat.

Please pray that everything is okay. Please pray for Harvey. He was suppose
to get out, but they are afraide he will not show up at the trial.

Please pray that my family gets closer and that they come to know The Lord.

Thanks for your love and prayers.

Love and Blessings,
Pat Ferguson
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Date:         Tue, 31 Aug 2004 19:12:04 -0500
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Sandy!

Happy Birthday to you! Many lovings and squeezings for you! You are
precious and sweet, and made out of love, full of love, and so very loving!
<squeeze> lol.

I pray this is a sweet day for you.

Love and Blessings,
Pat Ferguson



At 06:54 PM 8/31/04, you wrote:
>Happy birthday, Sandy.  And may God grant you many more.  You're a blessing
>to us on this list.
>
>Vicki.
>Wonder if I should duck for cover.  Smile!!! Tee Hee! .
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Date:         Tue, 31 Aug 2004 19:16:25 -0500
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Oh Kathy! You poor loving one! I'm so sorry to hear all this! I got tears
in my eyes reading your message.

You don't want to know what I think of our police force today.

I'm praying for you! More lovings and squeezings for you!

Love and Blessings,
Pat Ferguson


At 06:50 PM 8/31/04, you wrote:
>Thank you Sandy and Lelia, and everybody really!  I am so glad that I
>have all of you to turn to when this stuff happens.
>
>This evening, I just couldn't stand it any more.  Chris was in the
>kitchen and I went out to him and I asked if I could have a hug.  At
>first he resisted, but then, he yielded and gave me a big hug and kiss
>and appologized.  He admitted  that he's stressed out with school
>starting and drivers Ed. and his job.  I just listened and didn't lecture
>or anything.  I pray that he will go back to Eric because his way of
>handling stress is really inappropriate and he needs to learn some
>techniques for handling it better.  Plus, there is this whole legal
>thing!!  The police were a joke today.  How frustrating!
>
>By the way, remember the court date that we had for last March?  Well, we
>found out more about what happened to that today.  We started  int
>calling around on our own, after the police walked out on us.  We called
>our local probation officer and found out that she still had our name
>from last March, but that the charges had been dropped.  Really?  Not by
>us!!  We had been told to wait for the paper work to catch up with the
>case so we trusted in the system.  Oh, foolish us!  We didn't drop the
>case, the officer did, evidently.  Now, Greg has called that officer back
>to find out why, but, of course, he hasn't returned the call yet.  I
>think that the policeman today was almost laughing at us.  Chris had put
>a fist on my chin and then said that he would rather beat up Greg, rather
>than a blind woman, so he called Greg on the phone and tried to have him
>walk into an ambush.  I mannaged to get out and met Greg in the driveway
>and told him not to go in.  He had started banging things around while I
>was still in the house and it had sounded as if he had smashed the
>digital camera so I was glad to get out.    We called the police on the
>cell phone in the driveway and the police said that that wasn't enough to
>charge Chris with criminal intent.  The policeman said that he would have
>to be able to prove that Chris was trying to kill us or himself before he
>could do anything.  We have nowhere to send him and no one will take him.
>  Oh, I'm so sick of Maine!!  If that doesn't prove that Chris has all the
>rights under the law, I don't know what does.  Oh sure, we can take stuff
>away, and if he doesn't like it and trashes the house, we truthfully face
>at least a fifty fifty chance that the courts will side with him that
>we're just too controling.  You really have to be a creative parent today
>to survive.  Oh well, enough venting for one note.
>God bless, everybody and thanks for the prayers.  I just pray that  Chris
>will go see Eric tomorrow, but, it's not looking too good for our team at
>this point.
>Kathy
>
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Date:         Tue, 31 Aug 2004 18:26:43 -0600
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Dear Loving Pat,

Praying for all your concerns.  My heart really goes out to you.

Squeezes and Prayers.

Vicki

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 6:08 PM
Subject: Please pray for me and my family


> Dear Loving EChurch Family,
>
> I will never stop loving people. I will never stop telling people they are
> loving. I will never stop calling people that I love, Loving. No matter
> what anyone says. If God tells me to stop, then I will. He has told me to
> continue to always love and to give the love He so freely gives us.
>
> Now for my prayer request.
>
> Sunday night, I had just gotten into bed, and I realized I needed to call
> my brother Harvey to wish him a Happy Birthday. This was on the 29th of
> August. I told Vernon this, and I got up and went down stairs to my BNS
and
> called the number.
>
> At first, I got the answering machine, and It was interrupted by his
> "signifficant Other" Debbie.
>
> I talked to her, and asked her if I could talk to Harvey. She told me he
> wasn't there. Then she told me that he was in "finishing school." I didn't
> quite understand that, so I inquired as to what she ment. She then told me
> he was in jail. She made me promise her that I would not tell Mom that she
> told me. I guess Mom doesn't want anyone in the family except Joe to know
> where Harvey is. I don't understand why she always protecks Harvey. She
use
> to do this with Ron, also.
>
> I promissed Debbie that I would not say anything to Mom about what she
told
> me. We talked for over 2 hours.
>
> It all boils down to the fact that Harvey has had another  D.W.I. again. I
> don't know how many of them he has had.
>
> I also found out from Debbie that Mom has had some health issues lately.
> She's having problems breathing. I told Debbie that I've heard Mom wheese
> before and I had mentioned it to my older sister, Sherilyn.
>
> Debbie informed me that Mom was scared one night, when she couldn't hardly
> breathe. She was ready to call an ambulance but she didn't. I guess she
> went to the doctor, and she has since quit smoking. They exrayed her lungs
> and nothing shows up and they are clear.
>
> Debbie told me that Mom probably has C.O.P.D. Debbie is a nurse.
>
> This was also something Mom doesn't want anyone in the family to know
> about. I assured Debbie that I would not say anything about it to her.
>
> Please pray that when I call Mom that she is doing much better, and please
> pray we don't have any problems. I will not call her loving, and I will
not
> tell her she is Loving, unless God tells me to.
>
> I do love her a bunch, and I am really worried about her. I'm also
> concerned about what she has told the family about our little spat.
>
> Please pray that everything is okay. Please pray for Harvey. He was
suppose
> to get out, but they are afraide he will not show up at the trial.
>
> Please pray that my family gets closer and that they come to know The
Lord.
>
> Thanks for your love and prayers.
>
> Love and Blessings,
> Pat Ferguson
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Date:         Tue, 31 Aug 2004 18:52:32 -0600
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How old are you today, Sandy?

Phil.
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Date:         Tue, 31 Aug 2004 18:56:06 -0600
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Kathy,

It helps us to know those details even though it was difficult, to say the
least, for you to share them.  We are on your side and your son's, too, of
course.

Phil.
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Date:         Tue, 31 Aug 2004 19:34:21 -0600
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From your counseling sessions with Erick, I am sure you know that Chris is
using intimidation, and to some degree, manipulation, to achieve a desired
effect.  He is frightened of something but the driver's ed and the schooling
and the job are only triggers of what he is really frightened about.  He
likely doesn't even know himself, at this point, the source of his fear.
Acting out by frightening others, however, is an excellent way of testing
the waters, sort of speak, to see just how far you can go.  Plus, it takes
the place of a drug.  That is, it stimulates the one acting out their fear
by scaring the crap out of everybody else.

I am far from a good example.  Out of three children, two being boys, I was
never what you call brave but I was never afraid.  Even though my youngest
son is larger than I am and taller and was taking Karate, I made it
perfectly clear that in a face to face fight, I would most likely lose and
furthermore, when it was over, I'd probably die of a heart attack due to my
poor condition.  But, I said, you will know you were in a fight even when it
is over and I lose and die.

At this point, Chris likely wants help but his pride blocks his inner most
desire to do right.  He was playing the game of intimidation to see what his
blind mother and his father would do.  It will escalate because he got a
good taste of it now and it worked.  I was fortunate to know some big guys
and were good friends.  If one of my kids would have tried trashing the
house, for example, I wouldn't have called the police because what happened
to you in Maine would have happened here in Denver, too.  It's the same all
over.  Instead, I would have called a couple of three buddies to come on the
run to assist me.  Shoot a blind mother with one good baseball bat can do a
lot of damage if she starts swinging.  I'm sort of kidding there of course.
Well, not really.  I also would have been proud, as a father, to go to jail.
My daughter threatened to put me in jail more than once.  I bodily forced
her out of the house in front of her own children one night.  Then I had to
sit down with two little boys and explain what happened and why.  You don't
think that tore my heart out to hear those little boys crying because I had
to make their mother leave.  She was too dangerous to everyone around her.
Praise God, that's over and done with now.

I am not telling you nor Greg what to do.  I will tell you what I did when
Gretchen was 15 years old.  I kicked her out of the house.  She was crawling
out her bedroom windows at night and running around and getting arrested
anyway so I kicked her out.  Then I did exactly what I told her I would do.
I went down to the police station and turned her in as a run away so she
would be on the computers.  It worked.  She ran for three months scared
spitless because she thought she would get jailed.

One thing you have which you can play is in fact your own blindness.
Kicking Chris out and then filling a complaint related to your own fears
might work.  Especially if you got a lawyer's opinion about it.  Still a
super difficult decision to make.

In a manner of speaking Kathy, there is no right or wrong in these
situations.  There is sin and holiness, of course, and that's what we are
really talking about.  That we can do something about and we are so keep us
informed and stop trying to carry the load by yourself when you have friends
who can help.

Phil.
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Date:         Tue, 31 Aug 2004 19:42:28 -0600
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The good thing is, Kathy, you're not having to worry about the house since
the contractor is giving extra attention to it.

Let us know how tomorrow goes.

Hugs,
Vicki

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kathy Du Bois" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 1:45 PM
Subject: Housing progress


> On a brighter note, the contractor has stepped up his attention to our
> house.  The dry waller is coming tomorrow and he is hoping to have the
> place done in under two weeks.  Unfortunately, it really is true that the
> squeaky wheel getes the grease.  I'd probably be writing a more exciting
> and detailed message, but I am so emotionally drained right now that it's
> hard to be excited.  I'm sorry guys.  I really am.  Maybae, when I
> finally feel safe enough to cry and releave some of this tention,
> evereything will be set right again within me.  It's like a cloud burst
> waiting to happen.
>
> Please pray that Chris  will go with us to Eric's tomorrow.
> Kathy
>
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Date:         Wed, 1 Sep 2004 02:48:10 +0100
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Dear E-church USA friends,

I was just introducing myself to the echurch-uk crew when I realised
that I have not really introduced myself here... so I thought I would
repost it for you... it is all part of "getting to know you". He says
holding back from breaking into songs from the sound of music.

Thanks for the welcome everyone, it is great to meet you all. I am
looking forward to getting to know you. I have had a bit of a rough
ride with my old Christian friends over the past few months so I
think it will do me good to meet some fresh faces.

I am kind of busy at the moment. Why? I hear you ask. Two weeks ago
the Lord told me to decorate my house! A huge undertaking, and at the
time I only had 3 pounds to spare if that. Next miracle, my lodger
came up with 8 pounds worth of 1p and 2p coins for the decorating
kitty. As it turned out my landlord let me off a months rent to do
this work (I am a wee bit behind ahem) and he also gave me 25 pounds
for paint..... you see the Lord does know what he is doing.

Anyhow Woolworths (A shop in the uk) had some cheap paint going at 2
pounds a pot... so I have done one room. I ruined the carpet, it was
horrible anyway, so I need to pray in a newish one. The bathroom will
be finished tonight at about 3am if I work hard. I am doing this on
my own so it is difficult especially to get the motivation. I have
run my house as an open house for a number of years so there are a
few local teenagers that drop in every now and then but some of them
have the attention span of the proverbial goldfish.

Now for an introduction.... well I am 34, single, I live near
Birmingham and my house and the flat next door is kind of a Christian
community where the Lord brings people to live to receive his healing.

I also get to know many local alcoholic youths. Several of which live
next door in a unique kind of youthful squalor. I counted 20 empty
jack daniel's bottles when I fixed their boiler yesterday. They had
been for weeks without hot water, too afraid to call the landlord due
to the state of their house.

I do the same kind of prayer healing ministry as Phil does. I used to
try and help lots of my friends all around the UK, but now the Lord
has told me to focus on helping one person at a time. Those I help
need very intense ministry and a fresh start... it is very
challenging, but I get to see the Lord do amazing things.

A teenager turned up on my doorstep today... we did a book exchange
and they lent me a book called "The Kid" by Kevin Lewis, his own
story of severe abuse and neglect. I do not think it is a Christian
book, but I was surprised to discover that he lived about 7 miles
from where I was brought up. It is folks like "The Kid", Kevin that I
am called to help. The Lord is with me, it was his idea! I have a
couple of supportive friends and a couple of prophetic types who are
keeping me in order, but that is about it. Sometimes it feels pretty
lonely out here.

So here I am at your service, I am basically a full time Christian
missionary to my community and those the Lord sends my way. Living by
faith is hand to mouth at the moment just like you read about in all
those exciting Christian books. So on Friday a local restaurant sent
us their old food that they were going to throw away because of the
bank holiday weekend, is that cool or what!

I know in England it is considered rude to ask if you are in need,
but I have to say if you are offering, I could really use your help
too. The Lord has so much for us to do!

It is kind of a character building phase for me in my Christian walk.
Much of this involves getting stressed at God and various people then
repenting and eventually laying it before God to sort out my heart.
The refiners fire process also seems to require relentless painting
till the early hours of the morning, to which writing this email is a
welcome distraction.

I think this is the most unusual introduction I have ever given, but
I think it kind of lets you know where I am at and some of what
excites me as a disciple of Jesus. When you reply to me do let me
know what excites you.

your friend in Christ

Keith Hodges

p.s. it does not look like the bathroom is going to be finished after
all, it is 2.30am already.
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I too send happy birthday greetings to you, Sandy.  We're glad you're on
the list with us and that you're making sure Phil behaves himself.  <grin>

Peggy
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Keith,

Thanks for laying it all out on the table so it can be seen.  We all need
more of that transparency and honesty.

Phil.
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George left me a voice mail from the hospital this afternoon so I called him
right back.  Jennifer has pneumonia and her fever was 103 when she first
went in last night.  Something spiritually powerful has changed in George
which I have also been learning the hard way and that is concerning the
Lordship of Christ.  I knew I had a little pride.  After all, a little pride
is a good thing, right?  Sure it is because that's called self esteem by
some Christians.  God still calls it pride but what does that matter.  I
honestly never thought pride played any role in my life as a Christian until
a year and a half ago when the Lord proved to me I had a great deal of pride
which kept Him from being the Lord of my life.  George, fortunately, is
learning this now, too.  So where do we go from here?  We choose life and
not death as I have said before on here.  We speak things that are not as
though they were just like God did as the Creator of all things.  But wait
just a minute, I hear someone saying.  If we speak it, it isn't God speaking
it.  That's where you missed it, and me, too.  If we are speaking God's
Eternal Words, it is the same as if God were saying it Himself.  When the
demons suddenly realize you truly believe what was just said, they will
flea.  That is resisting the devil.  What if it doesn't work the first time?
You only plan on doing it once?  But to answer your question, what if it
doesn't work?  Call a friend and use Matthew 18:19 and through agreement in
prayer, it shall be done of our Father which is in Heaven.  Well, at least
that's what Jesus says.  What do you say?

Phil.


Phil.
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Date:         Tue, 31 Aug 2004 23:39:59 -0500
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Thanks for the introduction Keith.  Welcome and good to get to know you

I live in same city as Phil and Sandy and some others.

Am supposed to be studying tonight but having a difficult time keeping my
mind on the books.  Class was cancelled tonight so it feels like a holiday;
or should I say holi-night.

Vicki
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Wow what an intro Keith well, lad to meet you sir and will pray for your
ministry


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From: "Keith P Hodges" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 7:48 PM
Subject: Keith Introduction


> Dear E-church USA friends,
>
> I was just introducing myself to the echurch-uk crew when I realised
> that I have not really introduced myself here... so I thought I would
> repost it for you... it is all part of "getting to know you". He says
> holding back from breaking into songs from the sound of music.
>
> Thanks for the welcome everyone, it is great to meet you all. I am
> looking forward to getting to know you. I have had a bit of a rough
> ride with my old Christian friends over the past few months so I
> think it will do me good to meet some fresh faces.
>
> I am kind of busy at the moment. Why? I hear you ask. Two weeks ago
> the Lord told me to decorate my house! A huge undertaking, and at the
> time I only had 3 pounds to spare if that. Next miracle, my lodger
> came up with 8 pounds worth of 1p and 2p coins for the decorating
> kitty. As it turned out my landlord let me off a months rent to do
> this work (I am a wee bit behind ahem) and he also gave me 25 pounds
> for paint..... you see the Lord does know what he is doing.
>
> Anyhow Woolworths (A shop in the uk) had some cheap paint going at 2
> pounds a pot... so I have done one room. I ruined the carpet, it was
> horrible anyway, so I need to pray in a newish one. The bathroom will
> be finished tonight at about 3am if I work hard. I am doing this on
> my own so it is difficult especially to get the motivation. I have
> run my house as an open house for a number of years so there are a
> few local teenagers that drop in every now and then but some of them
> have the attention span of the proverbial goldfish.
>
> Now for an introduction.... well I am 34, single, I live near
> Birmingham and my house and the flat next door is kind of a Christian
> community where the Lord brings people to live to receive his healing.
>
> I also get to know many local alcoholic youths. Several of which live
> next door in a unique kind of youthful squalor. I counted 20 empty
> jack daniel's bottles when I fixed their boiler yesterday. They had
> been for weeks without hot water, too afraid to call the landlord due
> to the state of their house.
>
> I do the same kind of prayer healing ministry as Phil does. I used to
> try and help lots of my friends all around the UK, but now the Lord
> has told me to focus on helping one person at a time. Those I help
> need very intense ministry and a fresh start... it is very
> challenging, but I get to see the Lord do amazing things.
>
> A teenager turned up on my doorstep today... we did a book exchange
> and they lent me a book called "The Kid" by Kevin Lewis, his own
> story of severe abuse and neglect. I do not think it is a Christian
> book, but I was surprised to discover that he lived about 7 miles
> from where I was brought up. It is folks like "The Kid", Kevin that I
> am called to help. The Lord is with me, it was his idea! I have a
> couple of supportive friends and a couple of prophetic types who are
> keeping me in order, but that is about it. Sometimes it feels pretty
> lonely out here.
>
> So here I am at your service, I am basically a full time Christian
> missionary to my community and those the Lord sends my way. Living by
> faith is hand to mouth at the moment just like you read about in all
> those exciting Christian books. So on Friday a local restaurant sent
> us their old food that they were going to throw away because of the
> bank holiday weekend, is that cool or what!
>
> I know in England it is considered rude to ask if you are in need,
> but I have to say if you are offering, I could really use your help
> too. The Lord has so much for us to do!
>
> It is kind of a character building phase for me in my Christian walk.
> Much of this involves getting stressed at God and various people then
> repenting and eventually laying it before God to sort out my heart.
> The refiners fire process also seems to require relentless painting
> till the early hours of the morning, to which writing this email is a
> welcome distraction.
>
> I think this is the most unusual introduction I have ever given, but
> I think it kind of lets you know where I am at and some of what
> excites me as a disciple of Jesus. When you reply to me do let me
> know what excites you.
>
> your friend in Christ
>
> Keith Hodges
>
> p.s. it does not look like the bathroom is going to be finished after
> all, it is 2.30am already.
>
>
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Kathy I am praying for you and Phil is right it is good for us to know the
details I know its not easy and I know your frustrated and I'm sorry its sad
that the system and kids are on the same side when it should be the parents
and the government hugs


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Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 6:16 PM
Subject: Re: My son Chris, again!


> Oh Kathy! You poor loving one! I'm so sorry to hear all this! I got tears
> in my eyes reading your message.
>
> You don't want to know what I think of our police force today.
>
> I'm praying for you! More lovings and squeezings for you!
>
> Love and Blessings,
> Pat Ferguson
>
>
> At 06:50 PM 8/31/04, you wrote:
> >Thank you Sandy and Lelia, and everybody really!  I am so glad that I
> >have all of you to turn to when this stuff happens.
> >
> >This evening, I just couldn't stand it any more.  Chris was in the
> >kitchen and I went out to him and I asked if I could have a hug.  At
> >first he resisted, but then, he yielded and gave me a big hug and kiss
> >and appologized.  He admitted  that he's stressed out with school
> >starting and drivers Ed. and his job.  I just listened and didn't lecture
> >or anything.  I pray that he will go back to Eric because his way of
> >handling stress is really inappropriate and he needs to learn some
> >techniques for handling it better.  Plus, there is this whole legal
> >thing!!  The police were a joke today.  How frustrating!
> >
> >By the way, remember the court date that we had for last March?  Well, we
> >found out more about what happened to that today.  We started  int
> >calling around on our own, after the police walked out on us.  We called
> >our local probation officer and found out that she still had our name
> >from last March, but that the charges had been dropped.  Really?  Not by
> >us!!  We had been told to wait for the paper work to catch up with the
> >case so we trusted in the system.  Oh, foolish us!  We didn't drop the
> >case, the officer did, evidently.  Now, Greg has called that officer back
> >to find out why, but, of course, he hasn't returned the call yet.  I
> >think that the policeman today was almost laughing at us.  Chris had put
> >a fist on my chin and then said that he would rather beat up Greg, rather
> >than a blind woman, so he called Greg on the phone and tried to have him
> >walk into an ambush.  I mannaged to get out and met Greg in the driveway
> >and told him not to go in.  He had started banging things around while I
> >was still in the house and it had sounded as if he had smashed the
> >digital camera so I was glad to get out.    We called the police on the
> >cell phone in the driveway and the police said that that wasn't enough to
> >charge Chris with criminal intent.  The policeman said that he would have
> >to be able to prove that Chris was trying to kill us or himself before he
> >could do anything.  We have nowhere to send him and no one will take him.
> >  Oh, I'm so sick of Maine!!  If that doesn't prove that Chris has all
the
> >rights under the law, I don't know what does.  Oh sure, we can take stuff
> >away, and if he doesn't like it and trashes the house, we truthfully face
> >at least a fifty fifty chance that the courts will side with him that
> >we're just too controling.  You really have to be a creative parent today
> >to survive.  Oh well, enough venting for one note.
> >God bless, everybody and thanks for the prayers.  I just pray that  Chris
> >will go see Eric tomorrow, but, it's not looking too good for our team at
> >this point.
> >Kathy
> >
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Happy happy birthday my friend Sandy I'm so glad your with us here even when
you don't write much you are still here.  I hope you have a verry blesed
birthday and just remember that even though you may not realize it your a
blessing to those who love you.

hugs


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> Happy birthday, Sandy.  And may God grant you many more.  You're a
blessing
> to us on this list.
>
> Vicki.
> Wonder if I should duck for cover.  Smile!!! Tee Hee! .
>
>
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Pat I am praying I truly think that all of us on this list know about family
and can relate in one way or another so neither of you Kathy nor Pat are
alone and this you need to as my sister says trust and believe.


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Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 6:08 PM
Subject: Please pray for me and my family


> Dear Loving EChurch Family,
>
> I will never stop loving people. I will never stop telling people they are
> loving. I will never stop calling people that I love, Loving. No matter
> what anyone says. If God tells me to stop, then I will. He has told me to
> continue to always love and to give the love He so freely gives us.
>
> Now for my prayer request.
>
> Sunday night, I had just gotten into bed, and I realized I needed to call
> my brother Harvey to wish him a Happy Birthday. This was on the 29th of
> August. I told Vernon this, and I got up and went down stairs to my BNS
and
> called the number.
>
> At first, I got the answering machine, and It was interrupted by his
> "signifficant Other" Debbie.
>
> I talked to her, and asked her if I could talk to Harvey. She told me he
> wasn't there. Then she told me that he was in "finishing school." I didn't
> quite understand that, so I inquired as to what she ment. She then told me
> he was in jail. She made me promise her that I would not tell Mom that she
> told me. I guess Mom doesn't want anyone in the family except Joe to know
> where Harvey is. I don't understand why she always protecks Harvey. She
use
> to do this with Ron, also.
>
> I promissed Debbie that I would not say anything to Mom about what she
told
> me. We talked for over 2 hours.
>
> It all boils down to the fact that Harvey has had another  D.W.I. again. I
> don't know how many of them he has had.
>
> I also found out from Debbie that Mom has had some health issues lately.
> She's having problems breathing. I told Debbie that I've heard Mom wheese
> before and I had mentioned it to my older sister, Sherilyn.
>
> Debbie informed me that Mom was scared one night, when she couldn't hardly
> breathe. She was ready to call an ambulance but she didn't. I guess she
> went to the doctor, and she has since quit smoking. They exrayed her lungs
> and nothing shows up and they are clear.
>
> Debbie told me that Mom probably has C.O.P.D. Debbie is a nurse.
>
> This was also something Mom doesn't want anyone in the family to know
> about. I assured Debbie that I would not say anything about it to her.
>
> Please pray that when I call Mom that she is doing much better, and please
> pray we don't have any problems. I will not call her loving, and I will
not
> tell her she is Loving, unless God tells me to.
>
> I do love her a bunch, and I am really worried about her. I'm also
> concerned about what she has told the family about our little spat.
>
> Please pray that everything is okay. Please pray for Harvey. He was
suppose
> to get out, but they are afraide he will not show up at the trial.
>
> Please pray that my family gets closer and that they come to know The
Lord.
>
> Thanks for your love and prayers.
>
> Love and Blessings,
> Pat Ferguson
>
>