In a message dated 7/7/2004 8:23:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: I use black iron pipe for closet rods. It is strong and durable and won't break under the load of clothes that I have but never wear. Would it be reasonable to assume that there are other clothes that you always wear? Or are we talking nudist farms like my (current) sister-in-law Janet (from another planet) used to live on? BTW, it appears that I will be up your way Aug 21 to pick up Young Michael (who suddenly comes up to my eyes) at camp in Fairlee, wherever that is (PLEASE tell me it's not too far from you and Screwdriver Heaven). Ralph