Leland, I'm still running into routines that I find confusing and therefore difficult. Cutting holes in concrete floor slabs and combining floor slabs are currently driving me nuts. But, Dan is right, once I have all of the drawings, animating it should be somewhat easier than drawing. It will indeed become much easier once I'm dealing with a slide show or movie program, it will get easier. Unfortunately, I do not have a DVD burner, yet. (There are so many cool tools & toys; it will take a lifetime to collect them all.) (I awoke this morning with the realization that the computer does nothing confusing with my concrete slabs; I simply wasn't paying attention to what it was telling me. Learning can be like that.) I'll send you an animation when I get that far. -jc On Mar 7, 2004, at 3:48 PM, Leland Torrence wrote: > John, > I enjoyed reading this post. I have seen a lot of 3D animations from > the likes of Zaha Hadid, mainly because the buildings probably can't be > understood without them, but I would love to see a "time lapse" of an > historic building over time. Mel did his film, now its your turn. > Best, > Leland > > -----Original Message----- > From: This isn`t an orifice, it`s help with fluorescent lighting. > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of John > Callan > Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 9:32 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [BP] Surprised again > > > It's a gift. (When it doesn't make people think you are crazy.) All > of my paintings, drawings and photographs, back when I had not studied > architecture were dealing with "depth of field", "atmospheric > perspective" and other illusions of depth in a two dimensional medium. > I just always knew there were four axes (time is always there, as well > as the 3D's of geometry). Drawing with a CADD program forces you to > identify all three geometric axis. Cool. But, then you realize that > you can deal with time as well. So today I will complete a computer > model of the building as it was constructed in 1934 and then quickly > create models of the building at times when changes to the building > happened. Then if I get ambitions, I could even animate it and > represent the 3D changes over the course of the last 60 years. I > suppose a brighter person could figure out how to show the shifting > population and uses of the building and the changing of the seasons and > technology. > > So, what is going on, is that I'm seeing things. I'm surprised by what > I am seeing. I'm enjoying the drawing more than I ever have before. > > AND SURPRISE! It is not foreign to preservation. In fact, I've > discovered little mistakes copied from one drawing to another over 60 > years, and little assumptions being asserted repeatedly and incorrectly > over 60 years. Then I see the discrency. I assume I did something > wrong, I check the photos...nope, my drawing is correct. I then see > the change happening in increments on the hand drawn work. Its the way > we work. We always go back to the last document and work from there. > > Of course, I loose things. But they are different things that get > lost. And their are real benefits in return. > > But the best thing is that I'm enjoying drawing again. I've always > been surrounded by people who's ability to produce beautiful drawings > made me self-conscious. I learned to avoid drawing in public. (In the > field with the contractor or the inspector, or in the maintenance shop > with the guys is not like being in public. At least, I'm not > self-concious there because people understand my scribbles and smears.) > > But CADD drawings don't smear, no matter how many times you erase and > redraw something, the paper doesn't tear. Tape doesn't come loose. > Your parallel rule doesn't jump its track. Coffee rings don't appear > on your drawings. Your bad habits like doodling on the sides, or > rendering while you draft don't cause any trouble at all. And when you > want to look at a model, it gets built in moments. This is sooo cool! > > I don't know whether CADD is good for designing new buildings or not, > but it surely is good for studying old ones. > > Thanks for listening. > > -jc > > > > On Mar 7, 2004, at 8:57 AM, Ruth Barton wrote: > >> John, So, what's going on? I can't see things in 3D even if they're >> right >> in front of me. Ruth >> >> >> >> >> At 10:19 PM -0600 3/6/04, John Callan wrote: >>> I have been drawing two historic buildings in my CADD program. The >>> nature of the program is such that 3D is just how it works, or at >>> least how I have learned it. As I was drawing the building today, in > >>> order to study it and know it better, in its original construction, I >>> realized that I was not only seeing things that have not been seen in > >>> a >>> long time, but things that may have never been seen before. >>> >>> CADD drawing does amazing things, like defy gravity and the laws of >>> physics. Two things CAN occupy the same space at the same time. I >>> was drawing in a storage system that had been placed up against a >>> counter. I never questioned it before, but when that sucker popped up > >>> in 3D, it was a surprise to me. Must have been a surprise to the >>> inspector on the job too! >>> >>> The 3D views help to confirm that what I think is going on really is >>> going on. That's great for an insecure guy like me. Builds >>> confidence. I do think in 3D pretty much all the time and pretty >>> effectively, but it is such a relief to have my minds eye view of the > >>> world confirmed. >>> >>> Cool. >>> >>> -jc >> -- >> Ruth Barton >> [log in to unmask] >> Dummerston, VT >> >> -- >> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the >> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: >> <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> >> > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> > > -- > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: > <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html> > -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: <http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html>