>People who seem to do so actually alternate phases of fat loss and muscle >gain >in short periods, 2-3 days each or so. Well, to borrow a line from Bill Clinton, that depends on what your definition of simultaneous is. If you go one month losing fat for a couple days, then gaining muscle for a few days and wind up with less fat and more muscle at the end of say, a month, that's certainly simultaneous in the long run. >I would ask you: Is your >friend having her body fat tested professionally to track her progress. >That is >the only way you can really measure muscle gain/fat loss. Yes, she is. She was at least 100 pounds overweight, maybe more. She has been gaining muscle mass and losing weight at the same time for over a year now. At the very same moment? Maybe not, but certainly within the week. Good enough for me! Dori Zook Denver, CO _________________________________________________________________ Watch high-quality video with fast playback at MSN Video. Free! http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200365ave/direct/01/