"TV programmes will not crack us. Africa is awake and marching forward"

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well said brother OKO

habib

>From: Oko Drammeh <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list              <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: *** Re: More  Gambia On Swedish TV - January 14/ Tourism              /Nyar Propaganda.
>Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 14:45:36 +0100
>
>Bro
>thank you so much for your endless and undying efforts to bring in
>the
>non-Gambian dimension in the forum. I always enjoy your posting.
>Good
>stuff, Info from All over Africa,much respect.
>Like the elders would say "We are first African before Gambians."
>Thanks to the independance and sovereignty recovered by most of the
>African people, the struggle for the historical progress of our
>people
>will be subject to the cultural progress and cultural power that
>they
>will exercise effectively and fully in all spheres of their
>exsistence.
>TV programmes will not crack us. Africa is awake and marching
>forward .
>The struggle contuinues !!!
>Oko
>
>Brother Oko
>uga479 wrote:
>
>>Brother Oko,
>>
>>Your analysis is very correct - it is not only Gambia!
>>
>>These people are very good at manipulating our socio-economic
>>situations.
>>While these old women sexually manipulate our young boys, they
>>think they
>>are smatter, the young boys are not stupid - take it from me. Later
>>on when
>>their catch fails, they again make another film to show how poor
>>Africans
>>are using them to get permit to say in their country and/or for
>>money!
>>
>>For those of you who saw this sex slave film - there was something
>>else they
>>(may) have wanted to potray - I wonder if Gambia is a moslem
>>country?
>>
>>The film that went first in STV 2 was more political, and boy!!- I
>>leave it
>>to others to say something about it.
>>
>>Best regards,
>>
>>Nyar'Onyango
>>
>>*************
>>They over do it and most white women who experienced these episodes
>>are
>>not sexy for the fashionable European scene
>>They are so low and too happy to go on TV. They set off to Africa
>>to make
>>these films and count
>>on selling it for sums of money over and over again to TV stations
>>
>>The destruction of the African civilation is still on going.
>>
>>
>>>Just coming back from the Gambia!!! .
>>>Oko Drammeh
>>>
>>>
>>
>>******
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Oko Drammeh" <[log in to unmask]>
>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 10:43 PM
>>Subject: Re: More Gambia On Swedish TV - January 14/ Tourism
>>Propaganda.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>I do not see this programme but I have seen many and they all
>>>almost
>>>look alike with the same fomula and construction.
>>>Many Gambians are not involved in the sex tourism. It is still in
>>>the
>>>hands of thoes who have nothing to lose and not too educated and
>>>poverty
>>>sicken and uninformed young urban dwellers. The tradition of
>>>Gambians is
>>>do not follow tubabs. I was raised like this and many Gambians
>>>more. I
>>>am saying it now that most Gambian passport holders in the tourist
>>>industry area are non-Gambian. The sex trade is minor compared to
>>>
>>>
>>Amsterdam
>>
>>
>>>They over do it and most white women who experienced these
>>>episodes are
>>>not sexy for the fashionable European scene.They are so low and
>>>too
>>>happy to go on TV. They set off to Africa to make these films and
>>>count
>>>on selling it for sums of money over and over again to TV
>>>stations.
>>>
>>>The job has been done by the colonialism that white is god. So the
>>>less
>>>informed Africans still adores Europeans. But most tourists are
>>>poor.
>>>Most of them are government sponsored tourists like many Dutch
>>>tourists.They are entitled to 28 days holiday and a free 800 Euros
>>>if
>>>you don't have a job. They even could'nt pay for the christmas and
>>>new
>>>year;s dinner. Yet still they have the most geogous African girls
>>>on
>>>their arms sometimes two. I am not saying that there is no wild
>>>sex
>>>hunting in the Gambia but the Gambia is not a sex capital.
>>>
>>>The tourists industry is luring tourists into these tropics
>>>,especially
>>>to new destinations like the Gambia. They used to say the same for
>>>Brazil.. They will come with aids and all kinds of medical
>>>recommendations and few dollar notes and foreign currencies. They
>>>will
>>>spend this in a week. This is more that what a Gambian makes a
>>>month.
>>>But on long term the Gambian is better off,because the have their
>>>culture, the sun, the home, the family, The Europeans don't have
>>>it like
>>>this.
>>>
>>>The tourist go back to the social service and low income factory
>>>in a
>>>single house a garden and a car which only you and me in the west
>>>know
>>>the the poor village girl is hoping for a trip to hell, only
>>>hoping that
>>>at the end of the world the Europeans will survive it and will
>>>help us.
>>>
>>>There is a lot odf media disadvantages Gambia is facing because of
>>>the
>>>size of the media community and access to tglobal television
>>>network
>>>but  we will not fall victim to this tourism PROPAGANDA to attract
>>>tourists to the Gambia.
>>>
>>>The Gambia is still clean of these cheap peti hand camera tv
>>>programmes
>>>cannot cast a dirty future on our dear nation.
>>>Please watch the programme with critical EYES and respond to the
>>>network
>>>positively so that they will be careful in future.
>>>The destruction of the African civilation is still on going.
>>>Just coming back from the Gambia!!! .
>>>Oko Drammeh
>>>
>>>
>>>Momodou S Sidibeh wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Brothers Kabir, Joe, Tomaa and all,
>>>>
>>>>First of all there are two films on Gambia to be shown today. One
>>>>is the
>>>>documentary about Gambian television about which Kabir gave an
>>>>excellent
>>>>synopsis. The other one, a much more critical presentation of the
>>>>
>>>>
>>negative
>>
>>
>>>>impact of tourism will be broadcast on TV3 at 22.00 Hrs. labelled
>>>>
>>>>
>>'Sextrade
>>
>>
>>>>or Love in Gambia'.  A european woman interviewed in this
>>>>documentary
>>>>
>>>>
>>claims
>>
>>
>>>>that " a black man is always the white woman's slave. Any day he
>>>>no
>>>>
>>>>
>>longer
>>
>>
>>>>proves suitable, he will simply be traded for another one'. You
>>>>can
>>>>
>>>>
>>pretty
>>
>>
>>>>well guess the general run of such a programme. It's about the
>>>>views of
>>>>white (often British and Swedish) women about their relations
>>>>with young
>>>>Gambian men with whom they often initiate casual sexual
>>>>relationships - a
>>>>
>>>>
>>la
>>
>>
>>>>Thailand - or sometimes longer serious relations. The films focus
>>>>and
>>>>
>>>>
>>that
>>
>>
>>>>of the producers potrays Gambia as a haven for sex tourism. They
>>>>opine
>>>>
>>>>
>>that
>>
>>
>>>>Gambia is perhaps sex paradise for white western women just as
>>>>Thailand
>>>>
>>>>
>>is
>>
>>
>>>>for white western men.
>>>>
>>>>http://www.reportage.tv3.se/
>>>>
>>>>You will have to forgive the rest of us in Sweden for the late
>>>>info on
>>>>
>>>>
>>this
>>
>>
>>>>last one from our end.
>>>>
>>>>Every winter or early autumn, our homeland attracts some degree
>>>>of
>>>>
>>>>
>>reportage
>>
>>
>>>>from the Swedish media as a result of the dawning tourist season.
>>>>Much of
>>>
>>>
>>it
>>
>>
>>>>is commercially twisted version of travel guides yet often it is
>>>>good
>>>>advertisement for the country. I remember when some six years
>>>>ago,
>>>>Expressen, one of Sweden's largest tabloids, claimed that Gambia
>>>>is
>>>>
>>>>
>>second
>>
>>
>>>>to only South Africa in maintaining an effective
>>>>telecommunications
>>>>
>>>>
>>network.
>>
>>
>>>>It is time again for another round on Gambia....
>>>>more to follow as commentary later hopefully from others...
>>>>
>>>>Sidibeh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Joe Sambou" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 4:54 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: Gambia On Swedish TV - January 14.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Bro Kabir, thanks very much for your translation of the article.
>>>>>  I hope
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>skid to be aired will project the Gambia that Gambians live
>>>>>under and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>not
>>
>>
>>>>>another propagander for the APRC.  Keep up the good work.
>>>>>
>>>>>Chi Jaama
>>>>>
>>>>>Joe Sambou
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>From: Amadu Kabir Njie <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>>>>>><[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>Subject: Re: Gambia On Swedish TV - January 14.
>>>>>>Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 01:23:25 +0100
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Brother Joe,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Here's a synopsis:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Standby at the President's
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://svt.se/svt/jsp/Crosslink.jsp?d=10652&a=157657
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Gambia TV, GRTS is just a few years old, short on equipment and
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>personnel
>>
>>
>>>>>>but manages to air programs on schedule.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Bunja Touray, an ambitious news reporter whose assignments
>>>>>>consist
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>mainly
>>
>>
>>>>>>of
>>>>>>covering visits to the State House and other official
>>>>>>functions, is
>>>>>>assigned
>>>>>>one day to cover an opposition campaign tour during the
>>>>>>presidential
>>>>>>election.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Amid high tension, sometimes clashes erupted between the
>>>>>>supporters of
>>>>>>different candidates as the opposition coalition that had been
>>>>>>built
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>was
>>
>>
>>>>>>being deemed strong enough to unseat the president, and how
>>>>>>suddenly
>>>>>>Bunja's
>>>>>>journalistic work gathers momentum.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>* How GRTS came into being through Jammeh's initiative despite
>>>>>>protest
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>from
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>the IMF and economic advisers from the West.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>*Quoting Jammeh on reasons for insisting on establishing GRTS:
>>>>>>'One can
>>>>>>deny
>>>>>>what one hears, but one cannot deny what one sees'. (Makes me
>>>>>>wonder!)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>* He envisioned GRTS to cover his agenda and report on every
>>>>>>initiative
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>he
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>took, and at the little station, the journalists are striving
>>>>>>under the
>>>>>>existing premises.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The rest is about the 'bloodless' coup by the former
>>>>>>president's
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>erstwhile
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>bodyguard who was determined to stamp out corruption and how he
>>>>>>was
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>elected
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>president after his interim govt.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It ends with the rhetorical question of whether the TV can
>>>>>>influence
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>the
>>
>>
>>>>>>outcome of a re-election bid under dire economic straits and
>>>>>>when
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>progress
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>is lacklustre.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>(Joe, judging from the above, I don't think the program will
>>>>>>pose those
>>>>>>critical questions that many concerned Gambians are asking
>>>>>>daily,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>though
>>
>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>I
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>may be jumping the gun here. May be brother Sidibeh can help
>>>>>>put his
>>>>>>incisive mind behind a short review after the program?)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>NB!: The female, in the background, Jankeh Phatty, is a news
>>>>>>reader at
>>>>>>GRTS.
>>>>>>The following link gives short biographies of Jankeh, Bunja and
>>>>>>of
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>course,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>President Yahya A. J. J Jammeh and his 'pet projects':
>>>>>>http://svt.se/svt/jsp/Crosslink.jsp?d=10652&a=157666
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Kabir.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Joe Sambou" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Kabir, is there an english translation to your forward?  I am
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>interested
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>know the message being porttrayed with that picture of Yaya
>>>>>>>and a male
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>female in the background.  Thanks for your help.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Chi Jaama
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Joe Sambou
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>From: Amadu Kabir Njie <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>>>>>>>><[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: Gambia On Swedish TV - January 14.
>>>>>>>>Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 00:03:30 +0100
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hi Sidibeh!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I got some calls from people who'd seen your mail below and
>>>>>>>>wondered
>>>>>>>>exactly
>>>>>>>>at what time it's due to be aired and whether on STV1 or
>>>>>>>>STV2. I dug
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>up
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>some
>>>>>>>>background info and thought to share:
>>>>>>>>http://svt.se/svt/jsp/Crosslink.jsp?d=10652&a=157657
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks for the tip!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Kabir
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>From: "Momodou S Sidibeh" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 9:41 AM
>>>>>>>>Subject: Gambia On Swedish TV - January 14.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>G-Lers,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Unless Swedish TV drastically alters its programming, it has
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>scheduled
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>show a film on Gambia (actually about Gambian Television) by
>>>>>>>>Birgitta
>>>>>>>>Svensson on January 14th. It is a really interesting piece
>>>>>>>>with great
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>cuts
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>from the 2001 campaign trail. Hear Y.J.J and Yanks bribing
>>>>>>>>Gunjurians
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>that
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>if they wish to own the world's biggest cold storage facility
>>>>>>>>they
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>would
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>have to outdo Kartong in voting APRC!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>New Year Greetings from Stockholm,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Momodou S Sidibeh
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