I use the DLink DI-614+ and port forwarding didn't work for me. I had to put my PC in Demilitarized Zone. Steve K8sp ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Chao" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 7:07 PM Subject: Re: echo link Hi, Matt! Have the same problem connecting with a router in the loop. Anyone have some ideas? I'm using a D-link DI-624.--Matthew Chao