forgot to save the other portion of the message to reply to ve3peb directly, but nice job with the Kenwood tmv7a manual. I'll give it some study over the next couple weeks and hopefully have a leg up by the time I can order the radio. Ordered a piece of equipment for the studio first <grin>. 73 de nf5b Richard Webb Electric Spider Productions If you put garbage in a computer nothing comes out but garbage. But this garbage, having passed through a very expensive machine, is somehow enobled and none dare criticize it.