TOm wrote, >As folks on the list have already said, the TMV7A uses the VS3. Message-Id: <20030613213813.RJFK1511.imf41bis.bellsouth.net@[68.212.97.134]> Thanks, I think I saw reference ot that after I posted my query to you. Hmmm, that one's still currently on the market anyway. Heading for work right now, but think I have a tmv7a manual here, will hunt it up or ask if I don't find it on my local hd. Bought my xyl a Tm-261a two meter mobile for the van, but still have this ancient thing in the house, I think it might be a 7400, but not sure. 73 de nf5b Richard Webb Electric Spider Productions If you put garbage in a computer nothing comes out but garbage. But this garbage, having passed through a very expensive machine, is somehow enobled and none dare criticize it.