In a message dated 3/18/2003 10:52:16 AM Eastern Standard Time,
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> The mandatory pre-bid meeting is part of the attempt to get decent
> honest contractors.  In theory, this works.  See also Ken's response. It at
> least cuts out the ones that would bid the work without seeing it at all.
> See Ken's response. Of course, if the owner's contract manager has no
> construction contract experience...there's little benefit. Back when Ken
> and I were young and on BBH, the Owner and the CM and the Archt all had
> experience, but it was no match for 5 shithead, shitheel prime contractors
> who had everything to gain from engaging in non-consensual carnal relations
> with each other and the Owner, CM and Archt.  The system is NFG, as well as
> many of the players. It is all truly wondrous, and disgusting, to behold.

Ralph

>
> I'm going to be sounding a lot like my friends the contractors soon.  I
> fear a real dumbing down of owner's contract managers.
>
> -jc
>