i hope you are one of the few that don't have these problems. i think that lots of my pain is becouse i have the dydtonia in the neck and shoulders and that has really worked on my spine. -----Original Message----- From: Michael H Collis To: [log in to unmask] Sent: 3/4/2003 6:49 PM Subject: Re: CP Kyle, I've noticed that most of the orthopedic and joint problems come about when the person is ambulatory C.P. and gains weight. I have used a wheelchair for all my mobility requirements, and I have few, if any, pains... Every now and then something will twinge, but I have none of the issues raised by you, Kat, Ken and Bobby. I'm 48 now, but when I was 20, I was 120, and 5'10". My inseam is still the same, but my waist has gotten bigger... :) Michael -----Original Message----- From: St. John's University Cerebral Palsy List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Cleveland, Kyle E. Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 4:07 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: CP Michael, I'm 45 yrs. and 170 lbs too! I've been 170 for at least 15 years, but when I was 20 I was 6 feet tall and 126 pounds! I wore pants with a 28" waist and 36" inseam. Now it seems like the two numbers have switched. LOL. Ideally, I think many of us would probably do better on the extremely thin side--as most of us were in early adulthood. As a result of the spasticity and scoliosis, I now have degenerative disc disease and degenerative joint disease. The progression of both those would most likely have been much slower if I were not fifty pounds heavier than my college-age weight.