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>Jackasses are male and female. Mules are gender-free. They are the
>product of horses mating with jackasses. Doesn't seem to work that way
>with humans. Seems jackasses mate just fine with everyone.
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Wisconsin's got one I saw at the state fair a while back that had sort
of porthole window you could look through to whatch stuff being
digested. Who thinks up this stuff?! It may have some benefit in some
context, but at the state fair, it only seems to give credibility to
the PETA folks.
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> When I lived in Champaign Illinois, the University of Illinois
> Agriculture Department had the strangest cow that they would bring out
> during campus open house. For some reaseon they had placed a port hole
> through the side of this cow so that you could reach your arm into its
> stomach and pull out partially digested food. The cow did not seem to
> mind that she had this extra port but the crowd had a mixed reaction,
> particullary when the cow would belch through the port hole (not a
> very pleasant experience. When they were done letting all the visitors
> group the inside of this cows stomach, they would scwer the cap back
> on the port hole and the cow would go back to its day to day life.
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Wisconsin's got one I saw at the state fair a while back that had sort
of porthole window you could look through to whatch stuff being
digested. Who thinks up this stuff?! It may have some benefit in
some context, but at the state fair, it only seems to give credibility
to the PETA folks.
-jc
On Thursday, January 16, 2003, at 07:36 AM, Score, Robert wrote:
<excerpt><smaller>When I lived in Champaign Illinois, the University
of Illinois Agriculture Department had the strangest cow that they
would bring out during campus open house. For some reaseon they had
placed a port hole through the side of this cow so that you could
reach your arm into its stomach and pull out partially digested food.
The cow did not seem to mind that she had this extra port but the
crowd had a mixed reaction, particullary when the cow would belch
through the port hole (not a very pleasant experience. When they were
done letting all the visitors group the inside of this cows stomach,
they would scwer the cap back on the port hole and the cow would go
back to its day to day life.</smaller>
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Ken's last post reminded me of when I found out why farm kids are so
strong. According to irrefutable sources when a calf is born the
farmer's son picks up the calf and holds it. He does this every day
until the calf is a year old. Now I know this may sound a little far
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<DIV>Years ago I had my horses boarded on pasture near Lyons, Colorado. There were maybe 15-20 horses total, including my three. It was a particularly cold winter and I was out feeding grain every evening. There was one huge black horse of some indeterminate draft breed that had been there so long that no one, including the land owners, seemed to have any idea who he belonged to. He was pretty gregarious and always hung around when I went out to feed. On one particular evening, I had just set a full bottle of beer down on the tailgate of my truck and walked away with a feed bucket, when the big black horse ran up and snagged the beer bottle. He trotted off with it in his mouth, and I heard ominous sounds of crunching glass. I got pretty nervous when I couldn't find any broken glass on the ground, so I ran and got the owner. We summoned the vet who administered a dose of mineral oil by tube to the stomach, to ease the passage of whatever he had managed to ingest. The old horse didn't seem any the worse for wear, so we turned him loose. He must have been a little ticked off over the whole procedure, because he walked over to the vet's brand new truck, took a bite out of his tail light and ran off. I alway left my beer in the cab of the truck after that.</DIV>
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> are male and female. Mules are gender-free. They are the product of horses mating with jackasses. Doesn't seem to work that way with humans. Seems jackasses mate just fine with
> everyone.
So does one get a mule from the mating of a horse and an ass, as long a one is male and the other female, or does the gender and species matter?
As for your last sentence, this may explain why my college roommates were generally more successful than I in that regard.
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> For some reaseon they had placed a port hole through the side of this cow so that you could reach your arm into its
> stomach and pull out partially digested food.
Bob,
Can I get one of those ports?
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> during which your faithful correspondent was invited to
> attend a cross-burning.
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> Ralph: I missed this... what was that about? ][<en
We went to an ice cream parlor in Hawkinsville (the county seat as I remember, and nearest town big enough to have an ice cream parlor). While sitting there with my mother and siblings and cousins minding our own business and eating our ice cream, I noticed a man (wearing sunglasses) come into the store. Out of the corner of my eye I saw that he seemed to be handing out some sort of leaflet, and as he passed behind me, I reached my hand out to get one, and found that we had been invited to a cross burning. It didn't occur to me until recently that despite the invitation, some in our party might not have been so welcome after all.
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I would guess that that may cause you additional headaches when you try to
pass through airport security. Can I ask why you would want one, plans for
the state fair ralph?
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> For some reaseon they had placed a port hole through the side of this cow
so that you could reach your arm into its
> stomach and pull out partially digested food.
Bob,
Can I get one of those ports?
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> They are the product of horses mating with jackasses.
What do you get when you cross a mule with an onion?
A piece of ass that brings tears to your eye....
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the PETA folks.
Who else saw the PETA guy on TV saying that agri-industrial chickens want
more time with their families?
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</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Who else saw the PETA guy on TV saying that agri-industrial chickens want more time with their families?<BR>
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Long Island has been much bad-mouthed over the years.
Nick,
Other than the lack of rocks, and it being a bit too flat, I like LI. It is
the home of the boroughs of Brooklyn & Queens -- which leads to the
observation that Manhattanites tend to believe that America stops at the East
River. I like the fact that there are native americans actually living on LI,
for one. The Dutch presence remains to be found out, in particular with the
East end farm families. It is when you get off the parkways and expressways
and away from the suburban tracts and the congested south fork that it gets
interesting.
A while back we had guests to the house and we went out for a ride to look at
the local countryside and whatever. First stop was Ketchum Inn, a long
lasting histo presto project with some timber framing, supposedly a place
that George Washington may have tipped a few mugs. They were having a used
book sale, which we could not resist. In Riverhead we showed our friends our
favorite hardware/seed store, we did not succumb to going to Agway though it
is always a temptation, as well as the restoration of the LIRR steam
locomotive #57 in Riverhead. We got held up a bit with the Riverhead HS
Homecoming parade. It was a definite plus. The farm wagon floats and the old
cars and the marching bands and everyone obviously just having a good time on
a Saturday afternoon. We then went to see the Flanders Duck with it's Model-T
eyes. From there we went to Dune Road and looked at all the odd houses along
the beach and imagined what we would do if we lived in them.
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Long Island has been much bad-mouthed over the years.</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
<BR>
Nick,<BR>
<BR>
Other than the lack of rocks, and it being a bit too flat, I like LI. It is the home of the boroughs of Brooklyn & Queens -- which leads to the observation that Manhattanites tend to believe that America stops at the East River. I like the fact that there are native americans actually living on LI, for one. The Dutch presence remains to be found out, in particular with the East end farm families. It is when you get off the parkways and expressways and away from the suburban tracts and the congested south fork that it gets interesting.<BR>
<BR>
A while back we had guests to the house and we went out for a ride to look at the local countryside and whatever. First stop was Ketchum Inn, a long lasting histo presto project with some timber framing, supposedly a place that George Washington may have tipped a few mugs. They were having a used book sale, which we could not resist. In Riverhead we showed our friends our favorite hardware/seed store, we did not succumb to going to Agway though it is always a temptation, as well as the restoration of the LIRR steam locomotive #57 in Riverhead. We got held up a bit with the Riverhead HS Homecoming parade. It was a definite plus. The farm wagon floats and the old cars and the marching bands and everyone obviously just having a good time on a Saturday afternoon. We then went to see the Flanders Duck with it's Model-T eyes. From there we went to Dune Road and looked at all the odd houses along the beach and imagined what we would do if we lived in them.<BR>
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Subject: Re: My horse story...
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In a message dated 1/15/2003 7:43:46 PM Pacific Standard Time,
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> >> My horse story.
>> i don't believe a word of it. C
No less truth than Rouseau's Confessions ;-)
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">My horse story. <BR>
</BLOCKQUOTE> i don't believe a word of it. C</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="arial" LANG="0"> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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On Tue, 14 Jan 2003, Mark W. James wrote:
> DILLIGAF
A Vietnam veteran once told me that there was, circa 1970, a U.S. military
installation near the DMZ in South Vietnam, marked on all the official
maps, called "Fire Base Dilligaf".
I wonder if wartime U.S. military maps of Vietnam have been preserved that
would confirm or disconfirm this story.
Larry
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In a message dated 1/16/2003 1:10:48 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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> I would guess that that may cause you additional headaches when you try to
> pass through airport security. Can I ask why you would want one, plans for
> the state fair ralph?
>
>
Bob,
I was thinking this device might allow me to continue to enjoy eating but
short circuit the digestion and fat retention process. And no, I wasn't
planning to attend the state fair, as a visitor or an exhiibit. But thanks
for asking.
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I would guess that that may cause you additional headaches when you try to pass through airport security. Can I ask why you would want one, plans for the state fair ralph?</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
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</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Bob,<BR>
<BR>
I was thinking this device might allow me to continue to enjoy eating but short circuit the digestion and fat retention process. And no, I wasn't planning to attend the state fair, as a visitor or an exhiibit. But thanks for asking.<BR>
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In a message dated 1/16/2003 4:36:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask]
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> Who else saw the PETA guy on TV saying that agri-industrial chickens want
> more time with their families?
>
Ken,
We don't. Why should they?
Ralph
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Who else saw the PETA guy on TV saying that agri-industrial chickens want more time with their families?<BR>
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In a message dated 1/16/2003 5:04:56 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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> > DILLIGAF
>
> A Vietnam veteran once told me that there was, circa 1970, a U.S. military
> installation near the DMZ in South Vietnam, marked on all the official
> maps, called "Fire Base Dilligaf".
>
I can't stand the suspense any more. What means this "dilligaf?"
Ralph
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">> DILLIGAF<BR>
<BR>
A Vietnam veteran once told me that there was, circa 1970, a U.S. military<BR>
installation near the DMZ in South Vietnam, marked on all the official<BR>
maps, called "Fire Base Dilligaf".<BR>
</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
<BR>
I can't stand the suspense any more. What means this "dilligaf?"<BR>
<BR>
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Alright. Now I can stand it again, having used Google: Do I Look Like I Give
a Fuck.
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Alright. Now I can stand it again, having used Google: Do I Look Like I Give a Fuck.<BR>
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Do I look like I give a f**k?
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Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 5:52 PM
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Subject: Re: Cow Story
In a message dated 1/16/2003 5:04:56 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
> DILLIGAF
A Vietnam veteran once told me that there was, circa 1970, a U.S. military
installation near the DMZ in South Vietnam, marked on all the official
maps, called "Fire Base Dilligaf".
I can't stand the suspense any more. What means this "dilligaf?"
Ralph
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Ralph Walter
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 16, 2003 5:52
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Re: Cow Story<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT face=Arial
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was, circa 1970, a U.S. military<BR>installation near the DMZ in South
Vietnam, marked on all the official<BR>maps, called "Fire Base
Dilligaf".<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>I can't stand the suspense any
more. What means this "dilligaf?"<BR><BR>Ralph</FONT>
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From: "S. Stokowski" <[log in to unmask]>
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In a message dated 1/16/03 5:52:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask]
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> What means this "dilligaf?"
>
>
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dilligaf
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SCRIPT" FACE="Comic Sans MS" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/16/03 5:52:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">What means this "dilligaf?"<BR>
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>Then, the concrete is placed on unprepared slabs and without a bonding
agent. "Nobody is going to see it anyway and there is cement >already in
the mix, isn't there?"
This was my biggest mistake, not insisting on them using a bonding agent.
My new rule to live by is that any topping concrete under 4" is to bonding
agent before concrete is laid. Oh well, you live and learn, If I had all of
the answers I'd be making a hell of a lot more money then I do now. The
repour areas where I insisted that they bonded the existing slab are
wonderful.
It was kind of a hoot to watch the 'crete boys try to set their 2x4's for
edges. The concrete floor is fairly old, in the neighborhood of about 60
years. They tried to pin their wood down with #3 loads in their ramsets,
the concrete was so hard the pins were bouncing all over the place. They
went back to their truck and grabbed the #5 loads and were only able to
shoot the pins about 1/2 way in.
Nate Gillette
Grand Rapids, MI
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Once again the Internet proves itself to an invaluable tool for learning.
Imagine how much time will be saved in school now. Kids don't have to learn
things anymore, just how to use their search engines!
Imagine how smart WE'd be now if we'd had this when we were growing up...
Reminds me of a math teacher telling me how calculators were dumbing down
kids in a sense because they no longer had to know how to think in their
heads, just how to punch the buttons. Of course they had no idea if they
have the right answer (due to punching a wrong button) because they can't
approximate anymore, can't figure out if they have the right number within
an order of magnitude--they've never had to.
How many times have you been given the wrong change by someone at a store
and they had no idea they'd made a mistake? Of course in this sort of case
you're much more "tuned in" to what the correct change will be if you're one
who has to watch their pennies.
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Alright. Now I can stand it again, having used Google: Do I Look Like I
Give a Fuck.
Ralph
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<DIV><SPAN class=710315922-16012003><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>Once
again the Internet proves itself to an invaluable tool for learning.
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=710315922-16012003><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial
size=2>Imagine how much time will be saved in school now. Kids don't have
to learn things anymore, just how to use their search
engines!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=710315922-16012003><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=710315922-16012003><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial
size=2>Imagine how smart WE'd be now if we'd had this when we were growing
up...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=710315922-16012003><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=710315922-16012003><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial
size=2>Reminds me of a math teacher telling me how calculators were dumbing down
kids in a sense because they no longer had to know how to think in their heads,
just how to punch the buttons. Of course they had no idea if they have the
right answer (due to punching a wrong button) because they can't approximate
anymore, can't figure out if they have the right number within an order of
magnitude--they've never had to. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=710315922-16012003><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=710315922-16012003><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>How
many times have you been given the wrong change by someone at a store and they
had no idea they'd made a mistake? Of course in this sort of case you're
much more "tuned in" to what the correct change will be if you're one
who has to watch their pennies.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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In a message dated 1/16/03 6:01:22 PM, [log in to unmask] writes:
> Do I Look Like I Give a Fuck.
It is not necessary to use profanity. Your signature line is adequate.
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Florida had a cool front push through the other morning ;the Mississippi
northerlies were blowing white caps on the bay; and my shovel just exhumed
another corspe at about the five foot level; poor Thomas my mud man refused
to jump into the pit until I could explain exactly what we were looking at
.....
Silver secret
January morning cold and bright
spades turn or' the earth left and right
uncovering the past that no one knew
pry open the secrets;
for just a few
Tomb collasped and masonry shifted
final rest ,all up lifted
There she lay all brittle and cold
coffee colored skeleton;
a few centries old
Slack jawed with little to say
BUT
she must have been something in her day
Silk and taffstta lay in scraps
cage for a hoop dress
still intact
But whats this way down yonder
hinged to the pelvis
to make it sounder
silver belt ,with little heart lock
just a reminder..
to
forget me not.
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In the 1970's, oversized bricks came in (reducing labor costs, it was said)
and then pre-fab brick panels, like Giurgola's science center at Columbia.
I don't see pre-panelled brick anymore - was it just hype, or is my vision
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Hype it is not - new building between Church Street and Avenue of =
Americas (Walker St.?) and new brick skyscraper somewhere on the Upper =
East with steep green roof and brick to the very top - I have the =
pictures of the top panel installation with brick in already. Oversize =
brick was introduced in Poland probably in the seventies. It was the =
imported from Soviet Union. As an army cadet I was in charge of =
building brick structures on the Baltic coast for energy distribution =
centers. Simple structures, no brain breakers except the delivery of the =
materials. I had the workers, tools and equipment and it was always =
lottery what will came next. It could be roof panels on the time of =
pouring foundations instead of cement or sand instead of the brick. =
Actually I have never problem with the sand - for the cost of one bottle =
with no Coca Cola trademark on it I have got the whole load of sand =
scheduled for some other poor guy down the line and then the brick story =
began. Delivery was always short. To keep my crew of conscripts busy I =
was trying to work on the most difficult and time consuming tasks first. =
When I noticed that we do not have enough brick to be busy before the =
next delivery I directed the masons to go forward and build the corners =
from the remaining brick to have it ready when material arrive. It =
arrived - new soviet patent 3 cm higher than the regular brick we used =
to build the keyed corners. I will not explain the technicality of the =
solution (it was covered with the stucco right away) but 200 years from =
now some architectural researcher working on the building will have nice =
intellectual challenge to understand what happened.
Witold
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In the 1970's, oversized bricks came in (reducing labor costs, it was =
said) and then pre-fab brick panels, like Giurgola's science center at =
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I wasn't planning to attend the state fair, as a visitor or an exhiibit.
Here I was looking for an Asbury Park revival...
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If I had all of the answers I'd be making a hell of a lot more money then I
do now.
Nate: Sorry... don't bet on it. ][<en
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How many times have you been given the wrong change by someone at a store and
they had no idea they'd made a mistake?
Bruce: What bothers me is when they know how much change they have given and
you don't even remember how much you gave them to start with. ][<en
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I don't see pre-panelled brick anymore - was it just hype, or is my vision
going?
Sharpshooter: Either your vision is failing, or you need to get out of the
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Witold:
"but 200 years from now some architectural researcher working on the
building will have nice intellectual challenge to understand what
happened."
200 years from now, some architectural historian/architect will draw up the
specification of the "Karwowski Corner" and mandate that it is the standard
for all 1970 Soviet Era energy distribution structures along the Polish
Baltic coast.
Long Live the "Karwowski Corner".
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Witold Karwowski wrote:
> Hype it is not - new building between Church Street and Avenue of
> Americas (Walker St.?) and new brick skyscraper somewhere on the Upper
> East with steep green roof and brick to the very top - I have the
> pictures of the top panel installation with brick in already. Oversize
> brick was introduced in Poland probably in the seventies. It was the
> imported from Soviet Union. As an army cadet I was in charge of building
> brick structures on the Baltic coast for energy distribution centers.
> Simple structures, no brain breakers except the delivery of the
> materials. I had the workers, tools and equipment and it was always
> lottery what will came next. It could be roof panels on the time of
> pouring foundations instead of cement or sand instead of the brick.
> Actually I have never problem with the sand - for the cost of one bottle
> with no Coca Cola trademark on it I have got the whole load of sand
> scheduled for some other poor guy down the line and then the brick story
> began. Delivery was always short. To keep my crew of conscripts busy I
> was trying to work on the most difficult and time consuming tasks first.
> When I noticed that we do not have enough brick to be busy before the
> next delivery I directed the masons to go forward and build the corners
> from the remaining brick to have it ready when material arrive. It
> arrived - new soviet patent 3 cm higher than the regular brick we used to
> build the keyed corners. I will not explain the technicality of the
> solution (it was covered with the stucco right away) but 200 years from
> now some architectural researcher working on the building will have nice
> intellectual challenge to understand what happened. Witold -----
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> From: Met History
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> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 7:27 AM
> Subject: brick panels
> In the 1970's, oversized bricks came in (reducing labor costs,
> it was said) and then pre-fab brick panels, like Giurgola's
> science center at Columbia. I don't see pre-panelled brick
> anymore - was it just hype, or is my vision going?
> ---Christopher
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<font color="#3333FF">Witold:</font>
<p><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>"but 200 years from now some architectural
researcher working on the building will have nice intellectual challenge
to understand what happened."</font></font><font face="Arial"><font size=-1></font></font>
<p><font face="Arial"><font color="#3333FF"><font size=-1>200 years from
now, some architectural historian/architect will draw up the specification
of the "Karwowski Corner" and mandate that it is the standard for all 1970
Soviet Era energy distribution structures along the Polish Baltic coast.</font></font></font><font face="Arial"><font color="#3333FF"><font size=-1></font></font></font>
<p><font face="Arial"><font color="#3333FF"><font size=-1>Long Live the
"Karwowski Corner".</font></font></font><font face="Arial"><font color="#3333FF"><font size=-1></font></font></font>
<p><font face="Arial"><font color="#3333FF"><font size=-1>Bryan</font></font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font color="#3333FF"><font size=-1>=====</font></font></font>
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<p>Witold Karwowski wrote:
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<font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Hype
it is not - new building between Church Street and Avenue of Americas (Walker
St.?) and new brick skyscraper somewhere on the Upper East with steep green
roof and brick to the very top - I have the pictures of the top panel installation
with brick in already. Oversize brick was introduced in Poland probably
in the seventies. It was the imported from Soviet Union. As an army
cadet I was in charge of building brick structures on the Baltic coast
for energy distribution centers. Simple structures, no brain breakers except
the delivery of the materials. I had the workers, tools and equipment and
it was always lottery what will came next. It could be roof panels on the
time of pouring foundations instead of cement or sand instead of the brick.
Actually I have never problem with the sand - for the cost of one bottle
with no Coca Cola trademark on it I have got the whole load of sand scheduled
for some other poor guy down the line and then the brick story began. Delivery
was always short. To keep my crew of conscripts busy I was trying to work
on the most difficult and time consuming tasks first. When I noticed that
we do not have enough brick to be busy before the next delivery I directed
the masons to go forward and build the corners from the remaining brick
to have it ready when material arrive. It arrived - new soviet patent 3
cm higher than the regular brick we used to build the keyed corners. I
will not explain the technicality of the solution (it was covered with
the stucco right away) but 200 years from now some architectural researcher
working on the building will have nice intellectual challenge to understand
what happened.</font></font> <font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Witold</font></font> -----
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<a href="mailto:[log in to unmask]" title="[log in to unmask]">Met History</a></div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:[log in to unmask]" title="[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</a></div>
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AM</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> brick panels</div>
<font face="Times New Roman"><font size=-1>In the 1970's, oversized
bricks came in (reducing labor costs, it was said) and then pre-fab brick
panels, like Giurgola's science center at Columbia. I don't
see pre-panelled brick anymore - was it just hype, or is my vision going?
---Christopher</font></font></blockquote>
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In a message dated 1/17/2003 7:53:18 AM Eastern Standard Time,
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> What! A cross burning in LA?
No, mah Southren friend, this was in the vicinity of Hawkinsville (or maybe
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Ralph Walter wrote:
> > during which your faithful correspondent was invited to
> > attend a cross-burning.
> >
> >
Had you been in Raleigh in the early 1960s my father-in-law could have invited you to a cross burning in his yard. At the time he was a district court judge and a strong supporter of civil rights. One evening he looked out his window only to see a cross burning in his front yard. Rather than becoming indignent and outraged, he called up a few friends and the local newspaper. The next morning the people of Raleigh awoke to a photograph in the newspaper of JudgeWinborne and friends roasting marshmellows in his front yard, having a good old time, and thumbing their collective nose at the crossburners.
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> The next morning the people of Raleigh awoke to a photograph in the
> newspaper of JudgeWinborne and friends roasting marshmellows in his front
> yard, having a good old time, and thumbing their collective nose at the
> crossburners.
>
Mitch,
Mah compliments to your father-in-law, Suh! He is clearly a very fine, and
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"> The next morning the people of Raleigh awoke to a photograph in the newspaper of JudgeWinborne and friends roasting marshmellows in his front yard, having a good old time, and thumbing their collective nose at the crossburners.<BR>
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Mah compliments to your father-in-law, Suh! He is clearly a very fine, and very wise, gentleman.<BR>
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Ralph Walter wrote:
> Mah compliments to your father-in-law, Suh! He is clearly a very
> fine, and very wise, gentleman.
>
Ralph,
He also apparently ran a most entertaining courtroom. One Monday morning
as the weekend's drunk-and-disorderly regulars were coming through his
court, he became fed up with the oft repeated phrase of "I only had two
beers your honor." He stopped the proceedings and asked if anyone had
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Judge Winborne asked the man his name, immediately called up his case,
and said "At least you're honest, case dismissed."
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Damn Pyrate you're having too much fun. I really do love grave yards.
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The other evening I was invited to a grand affair at the retired admirals
house;
between munching on crab cake and swilling over rated bubbly I was
introduced as a Mater Mason;
to which I gave the secret handshake; and proceeded to speak in tongues
Non plus by this then my patron; a dowager matron of the Pan Handle
aristocrats
shifted gears an introduced me as the "Artist" who is restoring their
monuments; to which I began ranting and raving about about the bad (but
expensive) nudes he had in the billiard room ....I simmered down when the bar
cut me off
and passed myself off as a grave digger.....here then is a little bit about
Art..
Pyrate
"My mother said to me, 'If you become a soldier, you'll be
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Instead, I became a painter and wound up as Picasso. "
Pablo Picasso
"The artist is nothing without the gift, but the gift is
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...built for Vincent Astor at 130 East 80th Street "features Roche limestone
imported from France" on the facace, says the contractor. Is it credible
that the limestone for this 36' wide house, 6 stories high would have been
brought overseas? What is "Roche limestone" anyway? ---Christopher
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I know the townhouse; there are very few buildings with that color of stone.
In fact it may be the only one in NYC; Roche may be a particular region in
France as the country is blessed with great limestone ..called chalkier'
(sp)
It also has the best lime mortars; and not the ones currently available in
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In a message dated 1/19/2003 12:04:24 AM Eastern Standard Time,
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> "features Roche limestone imported from France" on the facace, says the
> contractor. Is it credible that the limestone for this 36' wide house,
> 6 stories high would have been brought overseas?
Mr. Sharpshooter,
Seems credible to me. The limestone at Altman's, which is considerably
bigger than 6 stories x 36' wide, is reported to have been French. Whether
or not it was made by the Roches is unknown to me. Would be interesting to
compare masonry conditions at Chez Schmidt to the Altman's block.
Then again, the Caen stone at Grand Central is made of (presumably) Native
American plaster. I think that's what it's made of.
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</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">"features Roche limestone imported from France" on the facace, says the contractor. Is it credible that the limestone for this 36' wide house, 6 stories high would have been brought overseas? </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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Seems credible to <U>me</U>. The limestone at Altman's, which is considerably bigger than 6 stories x 36' wide, is reported to have been French. Whether or not it was made by the Roches is unknown to me. Would be interesting to compare masonry conditions at Chez Schmidt to the Altman's block.<BR>
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Then again, the Caen stone at Grand Central is made of (presumably) Native American plaster. I <U>think</U> that's what it's made of.<BR>
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> France as the country is blessed with great limestone ..called chalkier'
>
Monsier Pyrate,
Well, the Altman's limestone is definitely "chalkier" than one (with the
exception of a stonecutter like yourself, or maybe a Frog stonedealer with a
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Monsier Pyrate,<BR>
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Well, the Altman's limestone is definitely "chalkier" than one (with the exception of a stonecutter like yourself, or maybe a Frog stonedealer with a big load to drop) would prefer.<BR>
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Subject: Yo, hey, stonemasons...
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In a message dated 1/19/03 11:22:59 AM , [log in to unmask] writes:
> Seems credible to me. The limestone at Altman's, which is considerably
> bigger than 6 stories x 36' wide, is reported to have been French.
At "house museums", after the volunteer docents' assertion that the estate
was built "with workmen imported from Italy", the next most unlikely
statement I hear is that "the stone/brick/EFS/slate/clapboard/hot water
piping/laundry chute" "was imported from Europe."
I suspect that the incidence of reported "importing from Europe", whether
human or sedimentary, is highly overstated - whether at Altman's or
otherwise. (I hear that stone, particularly, is heavy and has trouble
getting through those scanner points at airports.)
Hey stonemasons, how many documented cases have you seen/lifted/chipped
at/burnished/Dutchman'ed of certifiably imported stone?
Best, Christopher Gray
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/19/03 11:22:59 AM , [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Seems credible to <U>me</U>. The limestone at Altman's, which is considerably bigger than 6 stories x 36' wide, is reported to have been French. </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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At "house museums", after the volunteer docents' assertion that the estate was built "with workmen imported from Italy", the next most unlikely statement I hear is that "the stone/brick/EFS/slate/clapboard/hot water piping/laundry chute" "was imported from Europe."<BR>
<BR>
I suspect that the incidence of reported "importing from Europe", whether human or sedimentary, is highly overstated - whether at Altman's or otherwise. (I hear that stone, particularly, is heavy and has trouble getting through those scanner points at airports.)<BR>
<BR>
Hey stonemasons, how many documented cases have you seen/lifted/chipped at/burnished/Dutchman'ed of certifiably imported stone?<BR>
<BR>
Best, Christopher Gray </FONT></HTML>
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Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 12:15:20 EST
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Subject: Hey Yo To Hey, Wagnerite Wordmason...
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In a message dated 1/19/2003 11:47:55 AM Eastern Standard Time,
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> At "house museums", after the volunteer docents' assertion that the estate
> was built "with workmen imported from Italy", the next most unlikely
> statement I hear is that "the stone/brick/EFS/slate/clapboard/hot water
> piping/laundry chute" "was imported from Europe."
>
> I suspect that the incidence of reported "importing from Europe", whether
> human or sedimentary, is highly overstated - whether at Altman's or
> otherwise. (I hear that stone, particularly, is heavy and has trouble
> getting through those scanner points at airports.)
>
>
I am shocked, shocked that you would even give shelter to the thought that an
untrue word might emanate from the lips of the good docents of these United
States. You are a cad and a bounder, Sir!
Next you'll be telling us that one can't believe everything one sees in the
newspaper. Like f'rinstance the long-ago article about my favorite old house
in Phoenix (one of my previous projects with which all good Pinheads are long
since bored, and bad Pinheads fake only the slightest interest), which
reported that the tin ceilings were hand-carved plaster imported from Italy.
Besides which, as I remember from personal knowledge, use of scanners in
airports only began considerably more recently than 1928. I should think
[note: this means I'm now wandering the minuscule distance from personal
knowledge into pure speculation) that even a wealthy architect like Old Mott
might have had, shall we say, concerns about paying the premium (even a 1928
premium) for air-expressing limestone from Roche to East 80th Street. Plus,
availability transport aircraft capable of carrying a building's worth of
stone might have been a problem, given that all Lindbergh could manage the
year before was a sandwich and and a lot of gas.
Yr disrespectful reader,
Ralph
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/19/2003 11:47:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">At "house museums", after the volunteer docents' assertion that the estate was built "with workmen imported from Italy", the next most unlikely statement I hear is that "the stone/brick/EFS/slate/clapboard/hot water piping/laundry chute" "was imported from Europe."<BR>
<BR>
I suspect that the incidence of reported "importing from Europe", whether human or sedimentary, is highly overstated - whether at Altman's or otherwise. (I hear that stone, particularly, is heavy and has trouble getting through those scanner points at airports.)<BR>
<BR>
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I am shocked, shocked that you would even give shelter to the thought that an untrue word might emanate from the lips of the good docents of these United States. You are a cad and a bounder, Sir! <BR>
<BR>
Next you'll be telling us that one can't believe everything one sees in the newspaper. Like f'rinstance the long-ago article about my favorite old house in Phoenix (one of my previous projects with which all good Pinheads are long since bored, and bad Pinheads fake only the slightest interest), which reported that the tin ceilings were hand-carved plaster imported from Italy.<BR>
<BR>
Besides which, as I remember from personal knowledge, use of scanners in airports only began considerably more recently than 1928. I should think [note: this means I'm now wandering the minuscule distance from personal knowledge into pure speculation) that even a wealthy architect like Old Mott might have had, shall we say, concerns about paying the premium (even a 1928 premium) for air-expressing limestone from Roche to East 80th Street. Plus, availability transport aircraft capable of carrying a building's worth of stone <U>might</U> have been a problem, given that all Lindbergh could manage the year before was a sandwich and and a lot of gas.<BR>
<BR>
Yr disrespectful reader,<BR>
<BR>
Ralph</FONT></HTML>
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Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 16:20:14 EST
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Subject: No HP Content: weekly budget for long distance hiking....
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Master Peter will, after his New Zealand rendezvous, hike the Appalachian
Trail, starting in Georgia, for two months.
He has calculated a budget of $20/day, including 1 motel stop per week.
Anyone here had experience with long distance hiking, and whether this seems
reasonable?
Christopher
Approximate Appalachian Trail Budget Peter Gray
March 1- June 15-- approximately 75 days
$20/ day or $140/ week= $1500 + bus fare
-$40/week: food and supplies
-$100/week: lodging (campground fees, lean-tos, motels)
Cross-reference: Account of solo hiker in SOR (Southeastern Outdoor
Recreation) Magazine Online: his budget for the whole 2118 mile trail: $2600
-my estimation of the ground we'll cover in this leg: 900 miles
-thus, going on his budget, it would come to approx. $1300 which is pretty
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0">Master Peter will, after his New Zealand rendezvous, hike the Appalachian Trail, starting in Georgia, for two months. <BR>
<BR>
He has calculated a budget of $20/day, including 1 motel stop per week. Anyone here had experience with long distance hiking, and whether this seems reasonable?<BR>
<BR>
Christopher<BR>
<BR>
Approximate Appalachian Trail Budget Peter Gray<BR>
<BR>
March 1- June 15-- approximately 75 days<BR>
$20/ day or $140/ week= $1500 + bus fare<BR>
-$40/week: food and supplies<BR>
-$100/week: lodging (campground fees, lean-tos, motels)<BR>
<BR>
Cross-reference: Account of solo hiker in SOR (Southeastern Outdoor Recreation) Magazine Online: his budget for the whole 2118 mile trail: $2600<BR>
-my estimation of the ground we'll cover in this leg: 900 miles<BR>
-thus, going on his budget, it would come to approx. $1300 which is pretty close to my estimate.<BR>
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Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 09:42:50 -0500
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I am aware of at least two projects here in the Northeast where the
claim that French limestone was used is credible. One of these is
recent construction by someone who had little concern over cost.
It is usually a bad sign when a stone repair mortar manufacturer has
to become involved in a project less than 10 years old. In addition to
being chalkier than Indiana limestone which is more common in these
parts, the French stone we have seen is deeper yellow in color,
smaller in grain size, more porous and poorly cemented. Basically, it
weathers like shit (meant here in the sense of the term from Ralph's
technical lexicon) in a freeze-thaw environment.
It is not too far different from the Texas limestone we have seen,
which is similar in all respects including its poor weather
resistance. My guess is that this stuff survives in a mild
Mediterranean environment, as most things will, but should have been
left in France.
Mike E.
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> In a message dated 1/19/03 11:22:59 AM , [log in to unmask] writes:
>
> > Seems credible to me. The limestone at Altman's, which is
considerably
> > bigger than 6 stories x 36' wide, is reported to have been French.
>
> At "house museums", after the volunteer docents' assertion that the
estate
> was built "with workmen imported from Italy", the next most unlikely
> statement I hear is that "the stone/brick/EFS/slate/clapboard/hot
water
> piping/laundry chute" "was imported from Europe."
>
> I suspect that the incidence of reported "importing from Europe",
whether
> human or sedimentary, is highly overstated - whether at Altman's or
> otherwise. (I hear that stone, particularly, is heavy and has
trouble
> getting through those scanner points at airports.)
>
> Hey stonemasons, how many documented cases have you
seen/lifted/chipped
> at/burnished/Dutchman'ed of certifiably imported stone?
>
> Best, Christopher Gray
>
>
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President
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Phone: (860)747-2220
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Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 10:51:37 -0500
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Subject: Re: American Lime Conference Information
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Jeffrey Price wrote:
> Please Find attached information about the American Lime Conference.
> This is proving to be a busy but informative and fun couple of days.
>
> If you could please distribute this information to your mailing lists I
> would greatly appreciate it.
>
> Kindest Regards,
>
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Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 12:09:53 EST
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Subject: Re: Yo, hey, stonemasons...
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In a message dated 1/20/03 9:43:29 AM, [log in to unmask] writes:
> In addition to being chalkier than Indiana limestone which is more common in
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That describes very nicely the exquisite yellow stone on the 1928 Vincent
Astor townhouse at 130 East 80th (which is claimed to have Roche limestone
imported from France). A brilliant writer for The New York Times said a few
years ago that it "glows like candlelight". I don't remember his name, he
was probably very old, and no doubt is dead by now. Yrs, Amanuensis
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/20/03 9:43:29 AM, [log in to unmask] writes:
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<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">In addition to being chalkier than Indiana limestone which is more common in these parts, the French stone we have seen is deeper yellow in color,</BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BR>That describes very nicely the exquisite yellow stone on the 1928 Vincent Astor townhouse at 130 East 80th (which is claimed to have Roche limestone imported from France). A brilliant writer for The New York Times said a few years ago that it "glows like candlelight". I don't remember his name, he was probably very old, and no doubt is dead by now. Yrs, Amanuensis</FONT></HTML>
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At about Peter's age I learned that hiking and canoe tripping with my=20
old man was the cheapest way to go. He had one of them fancy American=20=
Express cards. I suppose he still does.
Estimates seem reasonable. Might want to increase the food if he wants=20=
to stick to dehydrated meals, which he probably should for the most=20
remote parts of the trip. He can reduce lodging in those same=20
stretches.
If I were you, I'd find a way to join him for some part of the trip. =20
But of course if I could follow my own advice I'd be off to hike in the=20=
Rockies with Patrick the last two summers! But I am hoping to sneak=20
off to Voyageurs for a week of Kayaking with him in the spring...after=20=
the ice, before the mosquitos...maybe not a week...maybe 24 hours.
-jc
On Sunday, January 19, 2003, at 03:20 PM, Met History wrote:
> Master Peter will, after his New Zealand rendezvous, hike the=20
> Appalachian Trail, starting in Georgia, for two months.=A0=A0
>
> He has calculated a budget of $20/day, including 1 motel stop per=20
> week.=A0 Anyone here had experience with long distance hiking, and=20
> whether this seems reasonable?
>
> Christopher
>
> Approximate Appalachian Trail Budget=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Peter Gray
>
> March 1- June 15-- approximately 75 days
> $20/ day or $140/ week=3D $1500 + bus fare
> -$40/week: food and supplies
> -$100/week: lodging (campground fees, lean-tos, motels)
>
> Cross-reference: Account of solo hiker in SOR (Southeastern Outdoor=20
> Recreation) Magazine Online:=A0 his budget for the whole 2118 mile=20
> trail: $2600
> -my estimation of the ground we'll cover in this leg: 900 miles
> -thus, going on his budget, it would come to approx. $1300 which is=20
> pretty=A0 close to my estimate.
>
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At about Peter's age I learned that hiking and canoe tripping with my
old man was the cheapest way to go. He had one of them fancy American
Express cards. I suppose he still does.
Estimates seem reasonable. Might want to increase the food if he
wants to stick to dehydrated meals, which he probably should for the
most remote parts of the trip. He can reduce lodging in those same
stretches.
If I were you, I'd find a way to join him for some part of the trip.=20
But of course if I could follow my own advice I'd be off to hike in
the Rockies with Patrick the last two summers! But I am hoping to
sneak off to Voyageurs for a week of Kayaking with him in the
spring...after the ice, before the mosquitos...maybe not a
week...maybe 24 hours.
-jc
On Sunday, January 19, 2003, at 03:20 PM, Met History wrote:
<excerpt><fontfamily><param>Times New Roman</param><smaller>Master
Peter will, after his New Zealand rendezvous, hike the Appalachian
Trail, starting in Georgia, for two months.=A0=A0
He has calculated a budget of $20/day, including 1 motel stop per
week.=A0 Anyone here had experience with long distance hiking, and
whether this seems reasonable?
Christopher
Approximate Appalachian Trail Budget=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Peter Gray
March 1- June 15-- approximately 75 days
$20/ day or $140/ week=3D $1500 + bus fare
-$40/week: food and supplies
-$100/week: lodging (campground fees, lean-tos, motels)
Cross-reference: Account of solo hiker in SOR (Southeastern Outdoor
Recreation) Magazine Online:=A0 his budget for the whole 2118 mile
trail: $2600
-my estimation of the ground we'll cover in this leg: 900 miles
-thus, going on his budget, it would come to approx. $1300 which is
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<< includes tape measures...the metal ones. >>
I've had more than a nodding acquaintance with cows this fall, since my work
has mainly involved recording historic Pennsylvania German buildings for the
Vernacular Architecture Forum conference. A significant number of those
buildings include barns, and many of them have been working barns, complete
with the whole range of farm animals.
I must have been a good girl this year-- I didn't have to measure in the cow
muck. I pulled spider-man detail measuring hay lofts. My poor friend
Rochelle, though, didn't get quite so lucky. She had to measure ankle deep in
cow sludge-- really tiresome when you drop 50' of measuring tape in it.
Now.... measuring a chicken house while the chickens are in residence is one
thing-- at least the chickens tend to keep to themselves. But the cows are a
different story. Apparently Bessie thought the measuring tape looked really
tasty, and bit straight through a 25' metal tape while Rochelle's team was
measuring. With no ill effects.
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>In a message dated 1/19/2003 12:04:24 AM Eastern Standard Time,
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>
> > "features Roche limestone imported from France" on the facace, says the
> > contractor. Is it credible that the limestone for this 36' wide
>house,
> > 6 stories high would have been brought overseas?
>
>Mr. Sharpshooter,
>
>Seems credible to me. The limestone at Altman's, which is considerably
>bigger than 6 stories x 36' wide, is reported to have been French. Whether
>or not it was made by the Roches is unknown to me. Would be interesting to
>compare masonry conditions at Chez Schmidt to the Altman's block.
>
>Then again, the Caen stone at Grand Central is made of (presumably) Native
>American plaster. I think that's what it's made of.
>
>Ralph
Dear Sharpralph:
It seems credible to me too, a building so narrow. Seems a little incredible
though for the size of the Altman's Building. Seems like that stone matches
to closely in color to American Limestones. Why go abroad?
I restored the two marble fountains, originally in the building, now in the
lobby of Oxford Univ. Press, which is in the Altmans Building. I know that
Pasvalco Co. in Closter, NJ supplied the dutchman stock for the exterior
work. Maybe they could identify the stone.
There are many French Limestones. I have never encountered any on a project.
The ones I know tend towards a golden color and are extremey soft , like
gypsum. You can cut it with a wood saw blade.
Caen stone came from Normandy and was used often in Paris. The interior of
Grand Central Station is immitation Caen made from plaster from God knows
where.
Recently, I was involved with trying to find replacement Caen stone, for a
project at the Cloisters ( 13th century set of windows from France, set in
the exterior wall of the building). Apparently, Caen is no-longer quarried,
Someone built a Macdonald's over the old quarry. "Richmont" is one stone
offered as a substitute, with similar color and compressive strength. I can
dig up the # of the importer if any one needs it.
There is another Frenchy called "Savonier"(also found in the Swiss Jura) and
another from Provence called "Lacrosse"(sp?). The Savonier can have alot of
shell in it. It is comparable to "Texas Cream". Both are golden and soft.
A relative of mine, Tim Andreadis of Cheshire CT., is off to Dartmouth in
September too. He is a Cross Country Champ and a great kid.
Nick
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> She had to measure ankle deep in
> cow sludge-- really tiresome when you drop 50' of measuring tape in it.
>
> Now.... measuring a chicken house while the chickens are in residence is
> one
> thing-- at least the chickens tend to keep to themselves. But the cows are
> a
> different story. Apparently Bessie thought the measuring tape looked really
> tasty, and bit straight through a 25' metal tape while Rochelle's team was
> measuring. With no ill effects.
>
Heidi,
Do you think it's a coincidence that the cow ate the clean tape rather than
the, uh, soiled one? Next time, tell Rochelle to throw all her tools in
shit.
Just a suggestion.
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">She had to measure ankle deep in<BR>
cow sludge-- really tiresome when you drop 50' of measuring tape in it.<BR>
<BR>
Now.... measuring a chicken house while the chickens are in residence is one<BR>
thing-- at least the chickens tend to keep to themselves. But the cows are a<BR>
different story. Apparently Bessie thought the measuring tape looked really<BR>
tasty, and bit straight through a 25' metal tape while Rochelle's team was<BR>
measuring. With no ill effects.<BR>
</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
<BR>
Heidi,<BR>
<BR>
Do you think it's a coincidence that the cow ate the clean tape rather than the, uh, soiled one? Next time, tell Rochelle to throw all her tools in shit.<BR>
<BR>
Just a suggestion.<BR>
<BR>
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> It seems credible to me too, a building so narrow. Seems a little incredible
> though for the size of the Altman's Building. Seems like that stone matches
> to closely in color to American Limestones. Why go abroad? We found an
> Indiana limestone (Victor Buff, I think) that looks like a good match for
> color and texture. So far.
>
> I restored the two marble fountains, Nice work, Nick! I've seen them
> through the doors but never up close. Maybe I should go inside sometime?
originally in the building, now in the > lobby of Oxford Univ. Press, which
> is in the Altmans Building. I know that Pasvalco Co. in Closter, NJ
> supplied the dutchman stock for the exterior work. Maybe they could
> identify the stone. NOW you tell me! Did you do anything on the exterior,
> or know anything about its condition? I appears to me that the building is
> going to need a complete swingstage inspection every 10 years or so to keep
> after the chunks that would delaminate or otherwise fail and fall. One can
> also clearly see where the original decorative work (primarily balconies,
> window heads, enframents, etc.) was lopped off in the 30's according to our
> distinguished screen-waxing (as opposed to screen-waning, or
> screen-writing) Sharpshooter.
>
> There are many French Limestones. I have never encountered any on a
> project.
> The ones I know tend towards a golden color and are extremey soft , like
> gypsum. As I said, the Altman's stone seems very chalky and crumbly in some
> places; we had a pilaster about 20' high that looked like it had been cut
> from a single block of stone, as it had continuous cracks for a good part
> of its height, and had to cut off about 4" on the front and each side and
> reface the damn thing. The surface crust seems pretty solid, but the meat
> of the stone could be very chalky and readily breakable. You can cut it
> with a wood saw blade. Is this when there's still sap in it, or are you
> talking about cutting seasoned stone with a hand saw?
>
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">It seems credible to me too, a building so narrow. Seems a little incredible<BR>
though for the size of the Altman's Building. Seems like that stone matches<BR>
to closely in color to American Limestones. Why go abroad? <B>We found an Indiana limestone (Victor Buff, I think) that looks like a good match for color and texture. So far.</B><BR>
<BR>
I restored the two marble fountains, <B>Nice work, Nick! I've seen them through the doors but never up close. Maybe I should go inside sometime?</BLOCKQUOTE></B><BR>
originally in the building, now in the <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">lobby of Oxford Univ. Press, which is in the Altmans Building. I know that Pasvalco Co. in Closter, NJ supplied the dutchman stock for the exterior work. Maybe they could identify the stone. <B>NOW you tell me! Did you do anything on the exterior, or know anything about its condition? I appears to me that the building is going to need a complete swingstage inspection every 10 years or so to keep after the chunks that would delaminate or otherwise fail and fall. One can also clearly see where the original decorative work (primarily balconies, window heads, enframents, etc.) was lopped off in the 30's according to our distinguished screen-waxing (as opposed to screen-waning, or screen-writing) Sharpshooter. </B><BR>
<BR>
There are many French Limestones. I have never encountered any on a project.<BR>
The ones I know tend towards a golden color and are extremey soft , like<BR>
gypsum. <B>As I said, the Altman's stone seems very chalky and crumbly in some places; we had a pilaster about 20' high that looked like it had been cut from a single block of stone, as it had continuous cracks for a good part of its height, and had to cut off about 4" on the front and each side and reface the damn thing. The surface crust seems pretty solid, but the meat of the stone could be very chalky and readily breakable. </B>You can cut it with a wood saw blade. <B>Is this when there's still sap in it, or are you talking about cutting seasoned stone with a hand saw?</B><BR>
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Cast stone in the 1920's was rich and modulated, lots of inconsistencies of
finish, "grain" and color - cf. 1100 Park Avenue, by DePace & Juster, 1930
(ignore the gradual extermination of the exquisite casement windows).
Cast stone in the 21st century seems ... pretty boring. Like white sugar,
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My dear city folk and others, Those of us who have grown up with cows know
that they are really quite stupid and curious. They will ingest most
anything--that's what keeps vets fat and happy here in the boonies. There
is an actual condition that cows can get, and most do to one degree or
another, called "hardware disease." The cure is to put a magnet down the
cow's gullet into the first rumin, stomach to the uninitiated. The magnet
sits there and gathers all the ferous objects that the cow takes in to keep
it from trying to move further along the digestive tract and cause real
damage. More than you really wanted to know, I'm sure, Ruth
At 2:09 PM -0500 1/20/03, Heidi Harendza wrote:
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><< includes tape measures...the metal ones. >>
>
>I've had more than a nodding acquaintance with cows this fall, since my work
>has mainly involved recording historic Pennsylvania German buildings for the
>Vernacular Architecture Forum conference. A significant number of those
>buildings include barns, and many of them have been working barns, complete
>with the whole range of farm animals.
>
>I must have been a good girl this year-- I didn't have to measure in the cow
>muck. I pulled spider-man detail measuring hay lofts. My poor friend
>Rochelle, though, didn't get quite so lucky. She had to measure ankle deep in
>cow sludge-- really tiresome when you drop 50' of measuring tape in it.
>
>Now.... measuring a chicken house while the chickens are in residence is one
>thing-- at least the chickens tend to keep to themselves. But the cows are a
>different story. Apparently Bessie thought the measuring tape looked really
>tasty, and bit straight through a 25' metal tape while Rochelle's team was
>measuring. With no ill effects.
>
>-Heidi
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> The cure is to put a magnet down the cow's gullet into the first rumin,
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> ferous objects that the cow takes in to keep it from trying to move further
> along the digestive tract and cause real damage.
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Ralph:
The Altmans Fountains restoration was one of the few occasions that any one
let me work on something inside of a building! Thanks for the complement.
Do I understand you correctly, are you presently working on the exterior?
I was not involved with the exterior. That came after my work. I remember
Pasvalco being involved as it came up in conversation. I was often in touch
with Frank Melka regarding other projects.
I walked by that building many times, as my wife later worked at Oxford
Press in the graphic design department. I think of it as a beige stone.
Nothing ever fell on my head.
Going at least as far back back to Michelangelo, the history of stone
sculpture and building is full of stories of stone suppliers trying to sell
flawed stone to sculptors and architects. Being a stone quarrier is possibly
thge world's oldest profession. This was the case with the main statues by
D.C.French at the Customs House in NY.
No two stones are totally alike. Even when one goes back to an original
quarry, it is difficult to obtain like stone. There are so many natural
factors. It may no longer be realistic to find exactly what was available
75-100 years ago. New quarried stone, can look different than cleaned
weathered stone. I think weathering compatibility is more of an important
consideration.
Over here in Switzerland, they like their repairs to stand out a little and
they leave some of the rough edges on a building. Hard to believe in this
neat little country.
The French Limestones I have cut have been golden in color and yes, so soft
that you could cut it with a hack saw or wood saw and finish with wood
files. Not much harder than plaster. These stones are wonderful to use when
teaching beginners to carve. The stones I used were not remnants or salvage
stones. I assume the softness is a characteristic, not a result of
weathering. I don't know how recently they had been quarried. The
carvability of a fresh quarried stone with "sap" in it is a bit different
than the powdery softness of these French Limestones.
Among stonecarvers,this softness is a known quality. Granite carvers don't
even consider it a stone. Those guys are pretty macho though!
I have encountered Indiana Limestone way up on buildings (Cleveland Tower at
Princeton U., 180' ), where the stone was subject to severe weathering and
winds, where the stones surface had a more crystal-like surface, and the
interior was like new stone. Thin units such as delicately carved pinacles
were crystalized and quite brittle. One of the qualities of Indiana,even
though the surface may erode and pit, a unit holds its form and will most
often not break down, like white marble or sandstone. The inclusion of
ferrous anchors and pins during construction, which subsequently oxidized,
keep giving guys like me work.
Now, there are many French Limestones, and some go more towards beige in
color. The Caen stone is somewhere between golden and beige. In the Gothic
period, Gypsum was also quarried and used on buildings.
There are also other American Limestones, beige like Indiana, but have a
different consistency than Indiana. There was one from Texas, one from
Tennessee. These may no longer be quarried. The competition from Indiana may
have been to great. Even in Indiana, many small quarries were swallowed up
and consolidated by the Indiana Limestone Co.
The Cathedral of St. John Divine had some economic involvement with a
Limestone quarry in Alabama. This stone was all around the stone yard, a bit
whiter than the Indiana, and a bit softer.
Knowing the size of the stones at Altman's, especially after the description
you gave of the column, I find it hard to imagine that it would all be
brought over from Europe. The stone industry in America was in full swing by
that time period.
Well, Ralphy thats all for now, hope it helps,
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Hey stonemasons, how many documented cases have you seen/lifted/chipped
at/burnished/Dutchman'ed of certifiably imported stone?
Sharpshooter,
If you want skinny on international stone then call Dorothy Kender at the
Building Stone Institute. BSI is the organization that represents the stone
industry re: quarry, fabrication, IMPORT, supply & setting. Building stone
always comes from a specific hole in the ground and it can be a hole in North
America, Europe, Asia or wherever. As long as boats/ships are moving stone
moves around the globe.
Besides that, Dorothy is one hell of a person to know. She knows everybody
but anybody in the stone industry. Though I warn you NOT to play Scrabble
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0">Hey stonemasons, how many documented cases have you seen/lifted/chipped at/burnished/Dutchman'ed of certifiably imported stone?</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
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Sharpshooter,<BR>
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If you want skinny on international stone then call Dorothy Kender at the Building Stone Institute. BSI is the organization that represents the stone industry re: quarry, fabrication, IMPORT, supply & setting. Building stone always comes from a specific hole in the ground and it can be a hole in North America, Europe, Asia or wherever. As long as boats/ships are moving stone moves around the globe.<BR>
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Besides that, Dorothy is one hell of a person to know. She knows everybody but anybody in the stone industry. Though I warn you NOT to play Scrabble with her.<BR>
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Is it credible that the limestone for this 36' wide house, 6 stories high
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He has calculated a budget of $20/day, including 1 motel stop per week.
Anyone here had experience with long distance hiking, and whether this seems
reasonable?
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I have seen the term "fireproofed wood" in several context in building
records in the 1900-1930 period, and have never quite gotten the meaning.
In apartment houses, wood had to be "fireproof" when buildings rose above
150' (as in, say, 903 Park Avenue).
In a request for a variance in 1926 regarding the Aeolian [piano] Building
(nec 54th & Fifth), the architects Warren & Wetmore requested permission to
avoid the use of fireproof wood on three floors (the tuning rooms and the
demonstration rooms): "the appellant contends that hardwood floors are a
practical necessity where heavy pianos are constatnly being wheeled about".
That last phrasing suggests that fireproofed wood was not as durable.
What was fireproofed wood? Was (Is?) the cost increment so great that
someone would go to the trouble of a variance application for just a few
floors? Or were there other problems with such material - that it was not
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<BR>
<BR>In apartment houses, wood had to be "fireproof" when buildings rose above 150' (as in, say, 903 Park Avenue).
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<BR>In a request for a variance in 1926 regarding the Aeolian [piano] Building (nec 54th & Fifth), the architects Warren & Wetmore requested permission to avoid the use of fireproof wood on three floors (the tuning rooms and the demonstration rooms): "the appellant contends that hardwood floors are a practical necessity where heavy pianos are constatnly being wheeled about". That last phrasing suggests that fireproofed wood was not as durable.
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<BR>What was fireproofed wood? Was (Is?) the cost increment so great that someone would go to the trouble of a variance application for just a few floors? Or were there other problems with such material - that it was not durable enough, for instance.
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What happened?
EIFS happens.
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> Works for me! Christopher
Chrif,
Yes, but does it work ON you?
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Interesting question. Didn't know fire-retardant treatment of wood was available as far back as the 1920's; I had assumed it was a more recent PITA requirement of the NYC Bldg Code. Will have to see whether any of my ancient tomes have anything on it, and hope in the meantime that somebody else has this at the tips of their fingers.
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Chris,et al.
1927 Sweet's has three listings for fire resistent treatment of lumber, two of which specifically mention the NYC Building Department requirements and testing at Columbia. (When did Norman start at Columbia?)
The Protexol Corporation in Kenilworth NJ, telephone Roselle 1900. These folks fireproofed wood using the Bachert Electric Process. "The Bachert Electric Process of fireproofing was adopted by the United States Navy for battleships, crusiers, torpedo boats, etc., on July 25th, 1895. Time tested, and known to be permenant." "The New
York City Building Department highly approves of the Bachert Electric Process. All treatments are warrented to pass the requirements of New York City as tested by Columbia University."
Geo. H. Storm & Co., 2500 Park Avenue, is listed as the manufacturer of "Firesafe" Lumber, telephone Motthaven 7110. They used the Somoza "Firesafe" process, a pressure treatment process using several different chemicals. "....named after the inventor, Fernando Somoza, who is also our chief chemist and technical advisor." Their
products exceeded the NYC requirements in testing conducted by Columbia. The Somoza process increased the cost of a house by about 5% and added about $20 to $70 to the cost of a thousand board feet of wood.
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OK, so it's a really weird email address: [log in to unmask], but I'm back in action.
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> 1927 Sweet's
What type of book is this?
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></B>1927 Sweet's </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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> OK, so it's a really weird email address: <A HREF="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A>, but I'm
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Pam,
You're right. It IS weird. But we're glad you're back.
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> >> 1927 Sweet's
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> What type of book is this?
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> Steve
Shirley you jest!
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<BR>
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Shirley who?
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In a message dated 1/21/2003 3:43:12 AM Eastern Standard Time,
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> The Altmans Fountains restoration was one of the few occasions that any one
> let me work on something inside of a building! Thanks for the complement.
> You are most welcome. Assuming, that is, that the fountains look as good
> up close as they do from outside the building...
>
> Do I understand you correctly, are you presently working on the exterior?
> Affirmative. It started out with a chunk that fell from the west entrance
> portico, and inspection found more loose and cracked stone the more we
> looked.
>
> I was not involved with the exterior. Lucky for you. That came after my
> work. I remember Pasvalco being involved as it came up in conversation. I
> was often in touch with Frank Melka regarding other projects. Don't know
> them; wish I'd known several months back that they supplied the stone last
> time around.
>
> I walked by that building many times, as my wife later worked at Oxford
> Press in the graphic design department. I think of it as a beige stone.
> Nothing ever fell on my head. You didn't happen to be walking on the other
> side of the street, didja? We keep finding pennies on our sidewalk
> bridge--presumably from the Empire.
>
> Going at least as far back back to Michelangelo who according to the NY
> Times today was evidently no less of a cheapskate than everybody else in
> the world! , the history of stone sculpture and building is full of stories
> of stone suppliers trying to sell flawed stone to sculptors and architects.
> Being a stone quarrier is possibly the world's oldest profession. This was
> the case with the main statues by D.C.French at the Customs House in NY.
> Most interesting!
>
> No two stones are totally alike. That's the standard architect's excuse for
> why nothing ever matches the way the client thinks it should. Even when one
> goes back to an original quarry, it is difficult to obtain like stone.
> There are so many natural factors. It may no longer be realistic to find
> exactly what was available 75-100 years ago. New quarried stone, can look
> different than cleaned
> weathered stone. I think weathering compatibility is more of an important
> consideration.
>
> Over here in Switzerland, they like their repairs to stand out a little
> and
> they leave some of the rough edges on a building. Hard to believe in this
> neat little country.
>
> The French Limestones I have cut have been golden in color and yes, so soft
> that you could cut it with a hack saw or wood saw and finish with wood
> files. Not much harder than plaster. These stones are wonderful to use when
> teaching beginners to carve. The stones I used were not remnants or salvage
> stones. I assume the softness is a characteristic, not a result of
> weathering. I wondered whethwer the stone is softer when freshly quarried,
> and hardens with exposure to weather, but given that it's all billions of
> years old anyway, why would a few years in the weather make a big
> difference? I don't know how recently they had been quarried. The
> carvability of a fresh quarried stone with "sap" in it is a bit different
> than the powdery softness of these French Limestones. What do you mean, "a
> bit?" Is the fresh stuff powdery and soft, or is it more consolidated when
> sappy?
>
> Among stonecarvers,this softness is a known quality. Granite carvers don't
> even consider it a stone. Those guys are pretty macho though! I should
> think so. Recently spoke to one of our contrs, who reported he had had his
> granite kitchen countertops sealed. I didn't think that was necessary
> w/granite, which I thought was the most impervious stuff in the
> world--anybody else got anything to report on this?
>
> I have encountered Indiana Limestone way up on buildings (Cleveland Tower
> at
> Princeton U., 180' ), where the stone was subject to severe weathering and
> winds, where the stones surface had a more crystal-like surface, and the
> interior was like new stone. Thin units such as delicately carved pinacles
> were crystalized and quite brittle. One of the qualities of Indiana,even
> though the surface may erode and pit, a unit holds its form and will most
> often not break down, like white marble or sandstone. The inclusion of
> ferrous Boo! Hiss! anchors and pins during construction, which
> subsequently oxidized, keep giving guys like me work. There's a bright side
> to everything.
>
> Now, there are many French Limestones, and some go more towards beige in
> color. The Caen stone is somewhere between golden and beige. In the Gothic
> period, Gypsum was also quarried and used on buildings.
>
> There are also other American Limestones, beige like Indiana, but have a
> different consistency than Indiana. There was one from Texas, one from
> Tennessee. These may no longer be quarried. The competition from Indiana
> may
> have been to great. Even in Indiana, many small quarries were swallowed up
> and consolidated by the Indiana Limestone Co.
>
> The Cathedral of St. John Divine had some economic involvement with a
> Limestone quarry in Alabama. This stone was all around the stone yard, a
> bit
> whiter than the Indiana, and a bit softer.
>
> Knowing the size of the stones at Altman's, especially after the
> description
> you gave of the column, I find it hard to imagine that it would all be
> brought over from Europe. Not having seen whatever original newspaper
> articles there were, or any other or better documentation, all I can do is
> pass on the rumors I've heard. The stone industry in America was in full
> swing by that time period. God knows.
>
> Well, Ralphy Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. thats all for now, hope it helps,
Thanks. Except for the last, Nickita Moonyi.
Ralph
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<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">The Altmans Fountains restoration was one of the few occasions that any one<BR>
let me work on something inside of a building! Thanks for the complement. <B>You are most welcome. Assuming, that is, that the fountains look as good up close as they do from outside the building...</B><BR>
<BR>
Do I understand you correctly, are you presently working on the exterior? <B>Affirmative. It started out with a chunk that fell from the west entrance portico, and inspection found more loose and cracked stone the more we looked.</B><BR>
<BR>
I was not involved with the exterior. <B>Lucky for you. </B>That came after my work. I remember Pasvalco being involved as it came up in conversation. I was often in touch with Frank Melka regarding other projects. <B>Don't know them; wish I'd known several months back that they supplied the stone last time around.</B><BR>
<BR>
I walked by that building many times, as my wife later worked at Oxford<BR>
Press in the graphic design department. I think of it as a beige stone.<BR>
Nothing ever fell on my head. <B>You didn't happen to be walking on the other side of the street, didja? We keep finding pennies on our sidewalk bridge--presumably from the Empire.</B><BR>
<BR>
Going at least as far back back to Michelangelo <B>who according to the NY Times today was evidently no less of a cheapskate than everybody else in the world! </B>, the history of stone sculpture and building is full of stories of stone suppliers trying to sell flawed stone to sculptors and architects. Being a stone quarrier is possibly the world's oldest profession. This was the case with the main statues by D.C.French at the Customs House in NY. <B>Most interesting!</B><BR>
<BR>
No two stones are totally alike. <B>That's the standard architect's excuse for why nothing ever matches the way the client thinks it should. </B>Even when one goes back to an original quarry, it is difficult to obtain like stone. There are so many natural factors. It may no longer be realistic to find exactly what was available 75-100 years ago. New quarried stone, can look different than cleaned<BR>
weathered stone. I think weathering compatibility is more of an important<BR>
consideration.<BR>
<BR>
Over here in Switzerland, they like their repairs to stand out a little and<BR>
they leave some of the rough edges on a building. Hard to believe in this<BR>
neat little country.<BR>
<BR>
The French Limestones I have cut have been golden in color and yes, so soft<BR>
that you could cut it with a hack saw or wood saw and finish with wood<BR>
files. Not much harder than plaster. These stones are wonderful to use when<BR>
teaching beginners to carve. The stones I used were not remnants or salvage<BR>
stones. I assume the softness is a characteristic, not a result of<BR>
weathering. <B>I wondered whethwer the stone is softer when freshly quarried, and hardens with exposure to weather, but given that it's all billions of years old anyway, why would a few years in the weather make a big difference? </B>I don't know how recently they had been quarried. The carvability of a fresh quarried stone with "sap" in it is a bit different than the powdery softness of these French Limestones. <B>What do you mean, "a bit?" Is the fresh stuff powdery and soft, or is it more consolidated when sappy?</B><BR>
<BR>
Among stonecarvers,this softness is a known quality. Granite carvers don't<BR>
even consider it a stone. Those guys are pretty macho though! <B>I should think so. Recently spoke to one of our contrs, who reported he had had his granite kitchen countertops sealed. I didn't think that was necessary w/granite, which I thought was the most impervious stuff in the world--anybody else got anything to report on this?</B><BR>
<BR>
I have encountered Indiana Limestone way up on buildings (Cleveland Tower at<BR>
Princeton U., 180' ), where the stone was subject to severe weathering and<BR>
winds, where the stones surface had a more crystal-like surface, and the<BR>
interior was like new stone. Thin units such as delicately carved pinacles<BR>
were crystalized and quite brittle. One of the qualities of Indiana,even<BR>
though the surface may erode and pit, a unit holds its form and will most<BR>
often not break down, like white marble or sandstone. The inclusion of<BR>
ferrous <B>Boo! Hiss! </B>anchors and pins during construction, which subsequently oxidized, keep giving guys like me work. <B>There's a bright side to everything.</B><BR>
<BR>
Now, there are many French Limestones, and some go more towards beige in<BR>
color. The Caen stone is somewhere between golden and beige. In the Gothic<BR>
period, Gypsum was also quarried and used on buildings.<BR>
<BR>
There are also other American Limestones, beige like Indiana, but have a<BR>
different consistency than Indiana. There was one from Texas, one from<BR>
Tennessee. These may no longer be quarried. The competition from Indiana may<BR>
have been to great. Even in Indiana, many small quarries were swallowed up<BR>
and consolidated by the Indiana Limestone Co.<BR>
<BR>
The Cathedral of St. John Divine had some economic involvement with a<BR>
Limestone quarry in Alabama. This stone was all around the stone yard, a bit<BR>
whiter than the Indiana, and a bit softer.<BR>
<BR>
Knowing the size of the stones at Altman's, especially after the description<BR>
you gave of the column, I find it hard to imagine that it would all be<BR>
brought over from Europe. <B>Not having seen whatever original newspaper articles there were, or any other or better documentation, all I can do is pass on the rumors I've heard. </B>The stone industry in America was in full swing by that time period. <B>God knows.</B><BR>
<BR>
Well, Ralphy<B> Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.</B> thats all for now, hope it helps,</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><B>Thanks. Except for the last, Nickita Moonyi.<BR>
<BR>
Ralph</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></B><BR>
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> What happened?
>
>
>
> EIFS happens.
Only to those who are too cheap to buy protection.
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">What happened?<BR>
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EIFS happens.</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Only to those who are too cheap to buy protection.<BR>
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In a message dated 1/21/2003 8:30:48 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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> Shirley who?
Stop calling me Shirley, Shirley.
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Subject: Re: Mott Schmidt's 1928 Regency-style townhouse...
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In a message dated 1/21/2003 8:50:36 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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> I walked by that building many times, as my wife later worked at Oxford
> Press in the graphic design department. I think of it as a beige stone.
> Nothing ever fell on my head.
If it did, how would you know? Yrs helpfully, Medulla Cortex
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I walked by that building many times, as my wife later worked at Oxford<BR>
Press in the graphic design department. I think of it as a beige stone.<BR>
Nothing ever fell on my head.</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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In a message dated 1/21/2003 9:10:28 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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> In a message dated 1/21/2003 8:50:36 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
>
>
> >> I walked by that building many times, as my wife later worked at Oxford
>> Press in the graphic design department. I think of it as a beige stone.
>> Nothing ever fell on my head.
>
> If it did, how would you know? Yrs helpfully, Medulla Cortex
Chris,
Nick said the above; to which of us were you referring?
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I walked by that building many times, as my wife later worked at Oxford<BR>
Press in the graphic design department. I think of it as a beige stone.<BR>
Nothing ever fell on my head.</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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If it did, how would you know? Yrs helpfully, Medulla Cortex</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Nick said the above; to which of us were you referring?<BR>
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Thanks, Ralph. I was feeling so left out of the world last week!
- Pam
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Thanks, Ralph. I was feeling so left out of the world
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TYPE="CITE">OK, so it's a really weird email address: <A
href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A>, but I'm
back in action.</FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"
face=Arial color=#000000 size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR><BR></FONT><FONT
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FAMILY="SANSSERIF">- Pam</FONT><FONT lang=0
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>
...did you get hit on the head too?
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>In a message dated 1/21/2003 9:10:28 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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> > In a message dated 1/21/2003 8:50:36 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> > [log in to unmask] writes:
> >
> >
> > >> I walked by that building many times, as my wife later worked at
>Oxford
> >> Press in the graphic design department. I think of it as a beige stone.
> >> Nothing ever fell on my head.
> >
> > If it did, how would you know? Yrs helpfully, Medulla Cortex
>
>
>Chris,
>
>Nick said the above; to which of us were you referring?
>
>Ralph
Ralph:
Does it matter?
Nick
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>Assuming, that is, that the fountains look as good
> > up close as they do from outside the building...
Oh shit......
You didn't happen to be walking on the other
> > side of the street, didja? We keep finding pennies on our sidewalk
> > bridge--presumably from the Empire.
Those were probablly the ones my kids tossed off....
> >
That's the standard architect's excuse for
> > why nothing ever matches the way the client thinks it should.
Are you sayin I have the right qualifications to be an Architect?
I wondered whethwer the stone is softer when freshly quarried,
> > and hardens with exposure to weather, but given that it's all billions
>of
> > years old anyway, why would a few years in the weather make a big
> > difference?
I agree. If a stone is not open with deep fissures, or constantly soaked
thru with rain water, from a carving standpoint, stones in a building change
on the outside but not much below the weathering surface.
What do you mean, "a bit?" Is the fresh stuff powdery and soft, or is it
more consolidated when
> > sappy?
This is a hard thing to describe in words. There is a subtlety to the way
different stones carve. New quarried stone with "sap" is moister thru and
thru and carves differently and some say more easily than cured stone. I
personally don't feel there is so much of a difference to get excited about.
> >
Recently spoke to one of our contrs, who reported he had had his
> > granite kitchen countertops sealed. I didn't think that was necessary
> > w/granite, which I thought was the most impervious stuff in the
> > world--anybody else got anything to report on this?
I agree, not neccessary. For other stones yes.Sandstone is plentiful here
and used for countertops. It does not polish up like granite, it maintains a
nice satin finish. This is sealed with a 3M product.
> >
> > I have encountered Indiana Limestone way up on buildings (Cleveland
>Tower
> > at
> > Princeton U., 180' ), where the stone was subject to severe weathering
>and
> > winds, where the stones surface had a more crystal-like surface, and the
> > interior was like new stone. Thin units such as delicately carved
>pinacles
> > were crystalized and quite brittle. One of the qualities of Indiana,even
> > though the surface may erode and pit, a unit holds its form and will
>most
> > often not break down, like white marble or sandstone.
I included this observation to express my feeling, that due to weathering,
there are changes that take place on the surface of stones on buildings
(exfoliating, sugaring, pitting, powdering). One finds that areas deep in a
stone remain unchanged, from a workability standpoint.
The inclusion offerrous Boo! Hiss! anchors and pins during construction,
which
> > subsequently oxidized, keep giving guys like me work. There's a bright
>side
> > to everything.
I did not mean to be irreverent! Much of the work I get involved with
consists of correcting this problem.
> > Well, Ralphy Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. thats all for now, hope it helps,
>
>Thanks. Except for the last, Nickita Moonyi.
Just a sign of affection! Where I come from, everyone gets the diminuative
on the end of their name.
Call Me, Nicky
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Nothing ever fell on my head.
If it did, how would you know?
I see here the origin of a new phrase, "Nothing ever fell on either half of
my head." ][<en
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This is sealed with a 3M product.
Do they seal limestone countertops in France w/ wine?
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Don't know them; wish I'd known several months back that they supplied the
stone last time around.
PASVALCO is good people. Most of their business is residential landscape &
crushed colored stone, but they will come through on some tricky problems
that others would sneer at. They have a very interesting pile of marble
chunks in their yard.
A bit strange w/ their Christianized newsletter, though. Reminds me of the LI
tool supplier who one day decided that Jesus told him to run for president,
and he has been earnestly trying to run for president ever since. Our
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rather do it with a glass in hand.
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PASVALCO is good people. Most of their business is residential landscape & crushed colored stone, but they will come through on some tricky problems that others would sneer at. They have a very interesting pile of marble chunks in their yard.<BR>
<BR>
A bit strange w/ their Christianized newsletter, though. Reminds me of the LI tool supplier who one day decided that Jesus told him to run for president, and he has been earnestly trying to run for president ever since. Our dealings went from good deals on Metabo grinders to raving letters pleading for us help him fight the devil. I don't mind fighting the devil, but I'd rather do it with a glass in hand.<BR>
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> In a message dated 1/21/2003 4:03:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
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>
>> 1927 Sweet's
>
> What type of book is this?
>
> Steve
Steve, Since you're a Georgia boy, here's an un-Ralph answer. Sweet's
is a compendium of catalog cuts of architectural related products. In
1927 the 22nd edition took 3 vols. The 2001 edition is 15 vol and takes
up three feet of shelf space. The online version is at
http://sweets.construction.com/
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In a message dated 1/22/03 5:43:16 PM Southern Standard Time,
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The 2001 edition is 15 vol and takes up three feet of shelf space. The
online version
>
And the 1906 version - rich with cuts and photos of ironwork, vault lights,
patented floor systems, urinals, etc., was reprinted about 15 years ago and
is available on the web.
Sincerely, I'm Sorry I Thought Mitch Was That Guy From the Yukon, and,
I'm Sorry I Thought That Guy From British Columbia Was That Guy From the
Yukon, Especially Since We Don't Have a Guy From the Yukon, So Ken Can't You
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<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">The 2001 edition is 15 vol and takes up three feet of shelf space. The online version </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">
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<BR>And the 1906 version - rich with cuts and photos of ironwork, vault lights, patented floor systems, urinals, etc., was reprinted about 15 years ago and is available on the web.
<BR>
<BR>Sincerely, I'm Sorry I Thought Mitch Was That Guy From the Yukon, and, I'm Sorry I Thought That Guy From British Columbia Was That Guy From the Yukon, Especially Since We Don't Have a Guy From the Yukon, So Ken Can't You Get On That?
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> ...did you get hit on the head too?
Not by anything from (or at) Altman's.
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In a message dated 1/22/2003 11:13:11 AM Eastern Standard Time,
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> > > >> I walked by that building many times, as my wife later worked at
> >Oxford
> > >> Press in the graphic design department. I think of it as a beige
> stone.
> > >> Nothing ever fell on my head.
> > >
> > > If it did, how would you know? Yrs helpfully, Medulla Cortex
> >
> >
> >Chris,
> >
> >Nick said the above; to which of us were you referring?
> >
> >Ralph
>
> Ralph:
>
> Does it matter?
>
> Nick
>
Nick,
To you and me, yes. I doubt the rest of them care.
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<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">> > >> I walked by that building many times, as my wife later worked at<BR>
>Oxford<BR>
> >> Press in the graphic design department. I think of it as a beige stone.<BR>
> >> Nothing ever fell on my head.<BR>
> ><BR>
> > If it did, how would you know? Yrs helpfully, Medulla Cortex<BR>
><BR>
><BR>
>Chris,<BR>
><BR>
>Nick said the above; to which of us were you referring?<BR>
><BR>
>Ralph<BR>
<BR>
Ralph:<BR>
<BR>
Does it matter?<BR>
<BR>
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Nick,<BR>
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To you and me, yes. I doubt the rest of them care.<BR>
<BR>
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> Just a sign of affection! Where I come from, everyone gets the diminuative
> on the end of their name.
>
> Call Me, Nicky
>
'Atsa nice. Where I come from, we get an honorific before ours.
Sign me,
Mr. Ralph
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> Nothing ever fell on my head.
>
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> If it did, how would you know?
Would it make a hollow sound in an empty forest?
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Nothing ever fell on my head.<BR>
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</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">If it did, how would you know? </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Would it make a hollow sound in an empty forest?<BR>
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> Do they seal limestone countertops in France w/ wine?
>
Only the best French wines are good enough for French countertops.
Sign me,
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Do they seal limestone countertops in France w/ wine?<BR>
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Only the best French wines are good enough for French countertops.<BR>
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Subject: Re: What was "fireproofed wood" in the early 20th century?
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In a message dated 1/22/2003 5:48:20 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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> I'm Sorry I Thought Mitch Was That Guy From the Yukon, and, I'm Sorry I
> Thought That Guy From British Columbia Was That Guy From the Yukon,
> Especially Since We Don't Have a Guy From the Yukon, So Ken Can't You Get
> On That?
>
My friend Clark from Arizona is securing airports up in Alaska, and his wife
calls him "Yukon Boy." Would he do?
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<BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"> I'm Sorry I Thought Mitch Was That Guy From the Yukon, and, I'm Sorry I Thought That Guy From British Columbia Was That Guy From the Yukon, Especially Since We Don't Have a Guy From the Yukon, So Ken Can't You Get On That? <BR>
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My friend Clark from Arizona is securing airports up in Alaska, and his wife calls him "Yukon Boy." Would he do?<BR>
<BR>
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Subject: Re: What was "fireproofed wood" in the early 20th century?
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So Ken Can't You Get On That?
I thought that we did have a guy from the Yukon?
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</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">I thought that we did have a guy from the Yukon?<BR>
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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 11:10:05 -0500
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Don't ask what Mrs. Ralph calls me.
"Mr.Tiger" ......Perhaps?
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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 12:37:14 EST
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Subject: Re: Mott Schmidt's 1928 Regency-style townhouse...
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> Don't ask what Mrs. Ralph calls me.
>
>
> "Mr.Tiger" ......Perhaps?
>
> Signed, Mr.Nicky
>
Nick,
I'd settle for "dear," as in "No, dear."
Speaking of bringing up lunch, has ][<en told which of our least favorite
mutual acquaintances appeared to me in a dream last night? Uggggghhhhh.
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Don't ask what Mrs. Ralph calls me.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
"Mr.Tiger" ......Perhaps?<BR>
<BR>
Signed, Mr.Nicky<BR>
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Nick,<BR>
<BR>
I'd settle for "dear," as in "No, dear." <BR>
<BR>
Speaking of bringing up lunch, has ][<en told which of our least favorite mutual acquaintances appeared to me in a dream last night? Uggggghhhhh.<BR>
<BR>
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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 14:10:01 -0500
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>PASVALCO is good people. Most of their business is residential landscape &
>crushed colored stone, but they will come through on some tricky problems
>that others would sneer at. They have a very interesting pile of marble
>chunks in their yard.
Believe it or not , some of those chunks are French Limestone (and purified
from any evil spirits)
Nick
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Ralph:
I am curious, who was the architect for Altman's? Date?
Nick
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>Nick,
>
>To you and me, yes. I doubt the rest of them care.
>
>Ralph
Ralph,
Well, they should care because he might say it about them one day too.
Nick
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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 20:16:03 EST
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In a message dated 1/23/2003 2:41:46 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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> I am curious, who was the architect for Altman's? Date?
>
Nick,
I don't know [ding ding ding--it just occurs to me that it may have been
Livingston and Trowbridge, according to my memory of drawings provided by our
very own Sharpshooter] who the architect was, but as I remember, the early (8
story section) was 1906 or 07, and the high (Mad Av end) was about 1913.
Now that I've said that, lemme look in King's Views: There appears to have
been a holdout (as of the 1908-09 King's) on the NE corner of 34/Fifth, which
is the SW corner of the present building; the same picture shows most of the
current bldg in place.
Sharpie will know for sure. Or at least, may know.
Ralph (Mr. Ralph, to you)
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I am curious, who was the architect for Altman's? Date?<BR>
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<BR>
Nick,<BR>
<BR>
I don't know [ding ding ding--it just occurs to me that it <U>may</U> have been Livingston and Trowbridge, according to my memory of drawings provided by our very own Sharpshooter] who the architect was, but as I remember, the early (8 story section) was 1906 or 07, and the high (Mad Av end) was about 1913.<BR>
<BR>
Now that I've said that, lemme look in King's Views: There appears to have been a holdout (as of the 1908-09 King's) on the NE corner of 34/Fifth, which is the SW corner of the present building; the same picture shows most of the current bldg in place.<BR>
<BR>
Sharpie will know for sure. Or at least, may know.<BR>
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In a message dated 1/23/2003 2:43:24 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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> >Nick,
> >
> >To you and me, yes. I doubt the rest of them care.
> >
> >Ralph
>
>
> Ralph,
>
> Well, they should care because he might say it about them one day too.
>
> Nick
>
Nick,
Who might say what about the rest of the Pinheads one day?
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">>Nick,<BR>
><BR>
>To you and me, yes. I doubt the rest of them care.<BR>
><BR>
>Ralph<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Ralph,<BR>
<BR>
Well, they should care because he might say it about them one day too.<BR>
<BR>
Nick<BR>
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Nick,<BR>
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I'm Sorry I Thought That Guy From British Columbia Was That Guy From =
the Yukon,=20
Actually, the Guy From BC is from Ithaca, and once a townie always a =
townie.
Actually, I will be back in Ithaca this mid-July for a 45th Year High =
School Reunion - Go, Go Little Reds! ! ! ! ! ( it was a shock when I =
grew up a little and learned that the IHS I saw as a symbol on church =
garments did not stand for Ithaca High School). =20
Anyone care to fly kites or hoist a round together in Stewart Park in =
July? I'll bring the kites and some good Canadian brew.
cp in bc
(when they had the annual kite flying contest in Stewart Park, the =
judges could not figure out how to handle my childly result. I had a =
spectacular eighth mile of string out but the kite was only 30' to 40' =
from the ground, so it wasn't the highest or biggest of anything except =
the amazingly farthest and they hadn't planned to have a prize for that.)
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color=3D#000000 size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF">I'm Sorry I Thought That Guy =
From British=20
Columbia Was That Guy From the Yukon, </FONT></FONT><FONT=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Actually, the <STRONG><FONT=20
face=3D"Bookman Old Style">Guy From BC</FONT></STRONG> is from =
Ithaca, and=20
once a townie always a townie.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Actually, I will be back in Ithaca this =
mid-July=20
for a 45th Year High School Reunion - Go, Go Little Reds! ! =
! !=20
! ( it was a shock when I grew up a little and learned =
that the=20
IHS I saw as a symbol on church garments did not stand for Ithaca =
High=20
School). </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Anyone care to fly kites or hoist a=20
round together in Stewart Park in July? I'll bring the =
kites=20
and some good Canadian brew.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>cp in bc</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>(when they had the annual kite flying =
contest in=20
Stewart Park, the judges could not figure out how to handle my =
childly=20
result. I had a spectacular eighth mile of string out but the =
kite=20
was only 30' to 40' from the ground, so it wasn't the highest or =
biggest of=20
anything except the amazingly farthest and they hadn't planned =
to have=20
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>Nick,
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>Who might say what about the rest of the Pinheads one day?
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>Ralph
Mr. Ralph:
You know, that "Sharpie" guy, what he said about, you know, the thing fallin
on our, you know, (heads).
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Subject: Dr. Livingston, I presume?
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In a message dated 1/23/03 10:48:27 PM, [log in to unmask] writes:
> I don't know [ding ding ding--it just occurs to me that it may have been
> Livingston and Trowbridge, according to my memory of drawings provided by
> our very own Sharpshooter] who the architect was, but as I remember, the
> early (8 story section) was 1906 or 07, and the high (Mad Av end) was about
>
God, do I have to do everything on this list? ---Christopher
B. Altman & Company (department store) 361 Fifth Ave., bet. E 34th andE.35th
Sts. E side. 1905-1906. Extended 1914. Trowbridge & Livingston.Converted to
The Graduate School and University Center, CUNY (City Universityof New York),
Fifth Ave. end and New York Public Library Science, Industry andBusiness
Library, Madison Ave. end. 1996. Gwathmey Siegel & Associates. Facade
repaired with lifetime warranty, 2001-?, by Ralph Kramden, using one of those
cool belts in a nifty yellow jumpsuit which will help in post-mortem
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 1/23/03 10:48:27 PM, [log in to unmask] writes:
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<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I don't know [ding ding ding--it just occurs to me that it <U>may</U> have been Livingston and Trowbridge, according to my memory of drawings provided by our very own Sharpshooter] who the architect was, but as I remember, the early (8 story section) was 1906 or 07, and the high (Mad Av end) was about 1913.</BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BR>God, do I have to do everything on this list? ---Christopher
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Mr Red Shoes?
At 12:37 PM -0500 1/23/03, Ralph Walter wrote:
In a message dated 1/23/2003 11:23:47 AM Eastern Standard Time,
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Don't ask what Mrs. Ralph calls me.
"Mr.Tiger" ......Perhaps?
Signed, Mr.Nicky
Nick,
I'd settle for "dear," as in "No, dear."
Speaking of bringing up lunch, has ][<en told which of our least favorite
mutual acquaintances appeared to me in a dream last night? Uggggghhhhh.
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Subject: Re: Mott Schmidt's 1928 Regency-style townhouse...
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You know, that "Sharpie" guy, what he said about, you know, the thing fallin
on our, you know, (heads).
Big heads or little heads?
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It's Cold again and
It looks like Xmas afternoon here in NYC, w/ everyone wearing that
sweater they found under the tree and that goofy hat & mitten combo they
got as a stocking stuffer-
Except, of course, for Ralph
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So the US Army spent like $7M to design an online shoot 'em up game and it is
distributed for free. Takes players through boot camp, where they qualify for
various tasks, like sharpshooter, and then sends them out on online real-time
patrols with other players. There is online with broadband a slew of "clans"
that come together on various sponsored servers and play war games, such as
Aliens vs. Predators.
Son, David, who is supposed to be writing his final poli-sci paper on the
socio-political context of religions, using the Mormons & the Jehova's
Witnesses as his case studies (having dropped the Owen Commune and the
Shakers somewhere along the way), seems to be stuck on page 45 out of 60...
then spends an inordinate amount of time with his online clan not only
perfecting his skills in AVP (Aliens vs Predators) and the US Army
simulation, but seems to have fallen in as a strategist with what he
describes as the top players in the country... like some guy that won $10,000
as the top DOOM player. I find out they get super-hot gaming computers &
sponsors for this stuff just like if they were in NASCAR. The top clan in the
America's Army gets invited to visit the Pentagon... and what else?
Seems that America's Army reinforces not running out and shooting like crazy,
a technique that gets one killed off very quickly, and leans towards team
coordination and planning and a lot of hiding and waiting. All good qualities
for urban infantry. I suspect the Pentagon is looking for a military force
that is not fed on heroics as much as a desire to use common sense and not
get dead real fast. As to AVP, I have been briefed on some quite intricate
maneuvers in this cyber-space that put one out ahead of others, and the means
by which the advantage is gained, distributed, and sustained -- an
interesting study in itself. Did you know that you can throw your Level 1
disk against a wall and that when the guy comes around to shoot you that you
can then recall the disk and it will rip through their backside? It was news
to me. It is also news to me that money and prestege can be derived out of
this almost nothing of being online late at night.
Most interesting, though, of late, is that in America's Army the Croations
are slaughtering everyone. They have only enough English to say things like,
shit faced goat fucking Americans suck this game, but then, it does not seem
to stop them from being aggressive. The Americans, or at least son David, are
stumped because he/they do[es] not know enough Croation to either respond, or
to understand what the Croation team members are saying to each other.
According to son David the Croatians like him, respect his accomplishment
level, and then kill him off.
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">So the US Army spent like $7M to design an online shoot 'em up game and it is distributed for free. Takes players through boot camp, where they qualify for various tasks, like sharpshooter, and then sends them out on online real-time patrols with other players. There is online with broadband a slew of "clans" that come together on various sponsored servers and play war games, such as Aliens vs. Predators.<BR>
<BR>
Son, David, who is supposed to be writing his final poli-sci paper on the socio-political context of religions, using the Mormons & the Jehova's Witnesses as his case studies (having dropped the Owen Commune and the Shakers somewhere along the way), seems to be stuck on page 45 out of 60... then spends an inordinate amount of time with his online clan not only perfecting his skills in AVP (Aliens vs Predators) and the US Army simulation, but seems to have fallen in as a strategist with what he describes as the top players in the country... like some guy that won $10,000 as the top DOOM player. I find out they get super-hot gaming computers & sponsors for this stuff just like if they were in NASCAR. The top clan in the America's Army gets invited to visit the Pentagon... and what else?<BR>
<BR>
Seems that America's Army reinforces not running out and shooting like crazy, a technique that gets one killed off very quickly, and leans towards team coordination and planning and a lot of hiding and waiting. All good qualities for urban infantry. I suspect the Pentagon is looking for a military force that is not fed on heroics as much as a desire to use common sense and not get dead real fast. As to AVP, I have been briefed on some quite intricate maneuvers in this cyber-space that put one out ahead of others, and the means by which the advantage is gained, distributed, and sustained -- an interesting study in itself. Did you know that you can throw your Level 1 disk against a wall and that when the guy comes around to shoot you that you can then recall the disk and it will rip through their backside? It was news to me. It is also news to me that money and prestege can be derived out of this almost nothing of being online late at night.<BR>
<BR>
Most interesting, though, of late, is that in America's Army the Croations are slaughtering everyone. They have only enough English to say things like, shit faced goat fucking Americans suck this game, but then, it does not seem to stop them from being aggressive. The Americans, or at least son David, are stumped because he/they do[es] not know enough Croation to either respond, or to understand what the Croation team members are saying to each other. According to son David the Croatians like him, respect his accomplishment level, and then kill him off.<BR>
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 11:27:29 EST
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Except, of course, for Ralph
The too cold Eddie Bauer man?
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In a message dated 1/24/03 10:52:22 AM, Drew Diaz writes:
> It's Cold again and It looks like Xmas afternoon here in NYC, w/ everyone=20
> wearing that sweater they found under the tree and that goofy hat & mitten=
=20
>=20
Wore my raccoon coat today - the one my daughter thinks brands me as a coon=20
murderer (which indeed it does, even though the coons were killed c. 1925).=20=
=20
The Central Park Reservoir is completely iced over like the school pond,=20
where almost everyone played hockey at boarding school in New Hampshire (eve=
n=20
though I was a squash nerd). Every year the granite-faced, hard-bitten New=20
Hampshire buildings & grounds staff would assemble the ancient, battered=20
wooden-plank barricades that made up the rink walls and bolt them together.=20=
=20
I remember tractors on the ice for various purposes, but I don't remember a=20
Zamboni clearing the surface after practice - I think it was done just with=20
push-scrapers. =20
"Black ice" was when we got a particularly good freeze, and the ice had no=20
color, just transparent down to the water below. When the temperature fell=20
you could hear the ice crack like gunshots, echoing away across the frozen=20
surface - the New Hampshire cold made my school the "cradle of American=20
hockey", and every year we played the freshman teams of Harvard, Yale or=20
Princeton, almost always beating them, even though they usually had 4 or 5=20
recent graduates from our school (our guys had been playing together for fou=
r=20
or even six years, and the kids from New Jersey dragged the college teams=20
down). =20
Then they let in girls (or at least, girls who didn't play hockey), and=20
sissies who complained that the winter was too cold, and more squash nerds,=20
and started having ballet and music and independent study and crap like that=
,=20
and hockey fell into desuetude. Last time I was there the plank barriers ar=
e=20
mouldering away in the woods, and there's no "thunk, thunk" of the pucks=20
hitting the boards in the afternoons, even if the scrawny music students=20
would come out of the fancy practice studio to hear it, which they wouldn't=20
because it might hurt their fingers or something. Indeed some years there=20
isn't even enough of a freeze - what with that damned Bill-Clinton-prosperit=
y=20
SUV global warming - and anyway the kids think that all skating is done unde=
r=20
a hardtop, even the ones from Minnesota, and things have just generally gone=
=20
to hell, but what else is new, except Jesus it's cold in New York, that is=20
new, please God, before I die please just one more really good blizzard that=
=20
makes Madison Avenue look like a glacier crevasse with everything so silent=20
you can hear the echoes of your voice against all the buildings which is=20
normally invisible to your ears because of all the damned cars, and I wish I=
=20
had taken hockey at school but I did play against my son's team once and won=
=20
but it didn't really count because they were all just in third grade and=20
anyway they said the parents cheated which maybe we did but it was good for=20
them.
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Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 1/24/03 10:52:22 AM, Drew Dia=
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<BR>Wore my raccoon coat today - the one my daughter thinks brands me as a c=
oon murderer (which indeed it does, even though the coons were killed c. 192=
5). The Central Park Reservoir is completely iced over like the school=
pond, where almost everyone played hockey at boarding school in New Hampshi=
re (even though I was a squash nerd). Every year the granite-faced, ha=
rd-bitten New Hampshire buildings & grounds staff would assemble the anc=
ient, battered wooden-plank barricades that made up the rink walls and bolt=20=
them together. I remember tractors on the ice for various purpos=
es, but I don't remember a Zamboni clearing the surface after practice - I t=
hink it was done just with push-scrapers.
<BR>
<BR>"Black ice" was when we got a particularly good freeze, and the ice had=20=
no color, just transparent down to the water below. When the temperatu=
re fell you could hear the ice crack like gunshots, echoing away across the=20=
frozen surface - the New Hampshire cold made my school the "cradle of Americ=
an hockey", and every year we played the freshman teams of Harvard, Yale or=20=
Princeton, almost always beating them, even though they usually had 4 or 5 r=
ecent graduates from our school (our guys had been playing together for four=
or even six years, and the kids from New Jersey dragged the college teams d=
own).
<BR>
<BR>Then they let in girls (or at least, girls who didn't play hockey), and=20=
sissies who complained that the winter was too cold, and more squash nerds,=20=
and started having ballet and music and independent study and crap like that=
, and hockey fell into desuetude. Last time I was there the plank barr=
iers are mouldering away in the woods, and there's no "thunk, thunk" of the=20=
pucks hitting the boards in the afternoons, even if the scrawny music studen=
ts would come out of the fancy practice studio to hear it, which they wouldn=
't because it might hurt their fingers or something. Indeed some years=
there isn't even enough of a freeze - what with that damned Bill-Clinton-pr=
osperity SUV global warming - and anyway the kids think that all skating is=20=
done under a hardtop, even the ones from Minnesota, and things have just gen=
erally gone to hell, but what else is new, except Jesus it's cold in New Yor=
k, that is new, please God, before I die please just one more really good bl=
izzard that makes Madison Avenue look like a glacier crevasse with everythin=
g so silent you can hear the echoes of your voice against all the buildings=20=
which is normally invisible to your ears because of all the damned cars, and=
I wish I had taken hockey at school but I did play against my son's team on=
ce and won but it didn't really count because they were all just in third gr=
ade and anyway they said the parents cheated which maybe we did but it was g=
ood for them.
<BR>
<BR>Sign me, Hobey Cat, Class of '68 </FONT></HTML>
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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 11:34:18 -0500
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there is a distinct possibility that the croations are utilizing
patches/bugs that enable them to see through the virtual walls etc that
others are hiding behind.. evidently this type of cheating is becoming
more and more common in on line gaming,,,
now put on your coat & let's go toss a frisbee...
DD
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> Wore my raccoon coat today -
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there is a distinct possibility that the croations are utilizing patches/bugs
that enable them to see through the virtual walls etc
Yeah, that is another factor I've been hearing about. Turns out those clans
that cheat get a rep for it and before long none of the other clans will play
against them. My first question was to ask where the line is between cheating
and not cheating. There appears to be an ethics to the political system
between the clans.
What happens when you figure out and/or use hacks to the Pentagon's game? Big
brother is watching.
Seems the real economy here is in "server" space.
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Yeah, that is another factor I've been hearing about. Turns out those clans that cheat get a rep for it and before long none of the other clans will play against them. My first question was to ask where the line is between cheating and not cheating. There appears to be an ethics to the political system between the clans. <BR>
<BR>
What happens when you figure out and/or use hacks to the Pentagon's game? Big brother is watching.<BR>
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Seems the real economy here is in "server" space.<BR>
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"thunk, thunk" of the pucks hitting the boards in the afternoons
Sharpshooter:
I've a friend in NH w/ MS who for a brief time was a professional hockey
player in Canda but is now a numismatist and short story writer (friend of G.
Orgrease)... do you mind If I forward your note to him? He will enjoy it if
he can see it.
Call me when the glacier canyon effect occurs, and I don't mean on the phone.
I'd like to hear your voice in the echo. A very nice image.
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0">"thunk, thunk" of the pucks hitting the boards in the afternoons</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
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Sharpshooter: <BR>
<BR>
I've a friend in NH w/ MS who for a brief time was a professional hockey player in Canda but is now a numismatist and short story writer (friend of G. Orgrease)... do you mind If I forward your note to him? He will enjoy it if he can see it.<BR>
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Call me when the glacier canyon effect occurs, and I don't mean on the phone. I'd like to hear your voice in the echo. A very nice image.<BR>
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If it did stand for our alma mater it would be damn good product placement.
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IHS I saw as a symbol on church garments did not stand for Ithaca High
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In a message dated 1/24/2003 7:08:25 AM Eastern Standard Time,
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> Facade repaired with lifetime warranty, 2001-?, by Ralph Kramden, using one
> of those cool belts
Mr. Kramden may use cool belts, but not me. And my apologies to the
long-late Messrs. Trowbridge & Livingston for getting their names out of
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"> Facade repaired with lifetime warranty, 2001-?, by Ralph Kramden, using one of those cool belts </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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Mr. Kramden may use cool belts, but not me. And my apologies to the long-late Messrs. Trowbridge & Livingston for getting their names out of sequence.<BR>
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Subject: Re: Mott Schmidt's 1928 Regency-style townhouse...
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> Mr Red Shoes?
>
Ruth,
Oh, no.
Compared to my dream man, Dr. Red Shoes is a prince among men. Actually, I
like Dr. Red Shoes (but not in that way), which I can't say for his
professional colleague and I believe erstwhile partner, Professor Fish Socks,
who is (in my personal and professional opinion) a smaller pile of shit than
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Ruth,<BR>
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Oh, no. <BR>
<BR>
Compared to my dream man, Dr. Red Shoes is a prince among men. Actually, I like Dr. Red Shoes (but not in that way), which I can't say for his professional colleague and I believe erstwhile partner, Professor Fish Socks, who is (in my personal and professional opinion) a smaller pile of shit than the individual who disturbed my slumber.<BR>
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Ralph:
Yep, there comes a time when only suspenders will do. Mine are red.
Better red (than sliding down off your backside)
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Mr. Kramden may use cool belts, but not me.
Ralph
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<DIV><SPAN class=280023618-24012003><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>Yep,
there comes a time when only suspenders will do. Mine are
red.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=280023618-24012003><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>Better
red (than sliding down off your backside)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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> I'd like to hear your voice in the echo. A very nice image.
>
Would somebody please explain the theory of mixed metaphors to me?
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"> I'd like to hear your voice in the echo. A very nice image.<BR>
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I think the top clan gets picked up in Hummer and spirited away to a secret
war game think tank in a nice old brownstone (or a brick rowhouse in Old
Alexandria?) like the one in "X (take your pick--book or movie version) Days
Of The Condor" (I saw the movie, didn't read the book).
I played laser tag over the weekend out near Boston. Wearing a body armour
suit that allows them to keep track of where you got "tagged" (great
techology). I swore my equipment was defective as it continually told me I
was "stunned" (out of action for about 15 seconds). Running around in a
flat black maze, maybe 60 by 80 feet, highlighted with dayglo colors and lit
with black light. I scored relatively high in my accuracy. Small
consolation since I placed 19th out of 20 combatants, about half were little
kids about 10-11 years old. I got 251 points (I tagged 24, got tagged 77
times), the top dogs got about 10500 and 11500. The only one who scored
less than me had -1401 so they probably hit their own base (costing them
2000 points). I figured all the hits on me would be from behind (I rarely
saw who hit me) but it was my shoulders that took most of the hits (snipers
from above). Much less painfull than paintball, costs much less, takes less
time (of course $7 for 15 minutes versus $50 to $100 for a half day--take
your pick), and no cleanup afterwards (same result).
Sitting Duck
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The top clan in the America's Army gets invited to visit the Pentagon... and
what else?
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<DIV><SPAN class=150423918-24012003><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>I
think the top clan gets picked up in Hummer and spirited away to a secret war
game think tank in a nice old brownstone (or a brick rowhouse in Old
Alexandria?) like the one in "X (take your pick--book or movie version)
Days Of The Condor" (I saw the movie, didn't read the
book).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=150423918-24012003><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>I
played laser tag over the weekend out near Boston. Wearing a body armour
suit that allows them to keep track of where you got "tagged" (great
techology). I swore my equipment was defective as it continually told me I
was "stunned" (out of action for about 15 seconds). Running
around in a flat black maze, maybe 60 by 80 feet, highlighted with dayglo colors
and lit with black light. I scored relatively high in my accuracy.
Small consolation since I placed 19th out of 20 combatants, about half were
little kids about 10-11 years old. I got 251 points (I tagged 24, got
tagged 77 times), the top dogs got about 10500 and 11500. The only one who
scored less than me had -1401 so they probably hit their own base (costing them
2000 points). I figured all the hits on me would be from behind (I rarely
saw who hit me) but it was my shoulders that took most of the hits (snipers from
above). Much less painfull than paintball, costs much less, takes less
time (of course $7 for 15 minutes versus $50 to $100 for a half day--take your
pick), and no cleanup afterwards (same result). </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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Ralph -
They're shaken, not stirred.
- Pam
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In a message dated 1/24/2003 11:50:47 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
I'd like to hear your voice in the echo. A very nice image.
Would somebody please explain the theory of mixed metaphors to me?
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> Ralph -
>
> They're shaken, not stirred.
>
> - Pam
>
Pam,
Somehow, I had a feeling I was going to get an answer like that. Too bad I'm
not a martini man. More like a martinet.
Speaking of which, how's the new job?
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Pam,<BR>
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Somehow, I had a feeling I was going to get an answer like that. Too bad I'm not a martini man. More like a martinet.<BR>
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How far is Ithaca from VT border? Only thing I know about Ithaca is that
we had a calendar clock that was supposedly made there. It had wooden
gears in it, I think. Ruth
At 8:51 PM -0800 1/23/03, Cuyler Page wrote:
I'm Sorry I Thought That Guy >From British Columbia Was That Guy From the
Yukon,
Actually, the Guy From BC is from Ithaca, and once a townie always a townie.
Actually, I will be back in Ithaca this mid-July for a 45th Year High
School Reunion - Go, Go Little Reds! ! ! ! ! ( it was a shock when
I grew up a little and learned that the IHS I saw as a symbol on church
garments did not stand for Ithaca High School).
Anyone care to fly kites or hoist a round together in Stewart Park in July?
I'll bring the kites and some good Canadian brew.
cp in bc
(when they had the annual kite flying contest in Stewart Park, the
judges could not figure out how to handle my childly result. I had a
spectacular eighth mile of string out but the kite was only 30' to 40' from
the ground, so it wasn't the highest or biggest of anything except the
amazingly farthest and they hadn't planned to have a prize for that.)
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> Mr. Ralph:
>
> You know, that "Sharpie" guy, what he said about, you know, the thing
> fallin
> on our, you know, (heads).
>
> Nick
>
Sure, Nick, sure. You bet. Uh huh. Well, uh, my bathtub is overflowing.
Gotta go.
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<BR>
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> Only thing I know about Ithaca is that we had a calendar clock that was
> supposedly made there. It had wooden gears in it, I think.
Ruth,
If you still have the clock, that's all you need to know about Ithaca. If
you don't have the clock, I wouldn't worry about Ithaca.
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<BR>
Ruth,<BR>
<BR>
If you still have the clock, that's all you need to know about Ithaca. If you don't have the clock, I wouldn't worry about Ithaca. <BR>
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In addition, I was called by my initials all through my youth (because =
my parents didn't want to hear both my dad and me called the same name =
even though they named me that way) and those initial were J.C. so the =
whole church thing became very complex. I grew up thinking that North =
Easterners were not very good at symbolic language. In the =
architecture drafting room at Cornell, my social circle was mostly =
Jewish friends from the Big Apple and we were known collectively as =
"J.C. and the boys".
cp in bc
If it did stand for our alma mater it would be damn good product =
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IHS I saw as a symbol on church garments did not stand for Ithaca High =
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Cuyler: All these years I thought it was just me. ][<en
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In addition, I was called by my =
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Dear Ruth,
It would be fun to put faces to the e-voices.
Ithaca, the centre of the world, is one hour south of Syracuse and only a
little more that a couple of hours from the edge of Vermont. As Ralph
almost says, if you have an Ithaca Calendar Clock, nothing else really
matters, because you have a fortune on your hands. (I was lucky to inherit
one.) The only thing better, in some minds, is an Ithaca Shotgun. It
was a fun place to grow up - cows with glass walls on their stomachs,
raunchy Icelandic literature and atomic research all mixed up together.
There were interesting people all around. My best friend in grade school
came to class crying one day saying that his favourite family friends, the
Rosenbergs, some nice people who always stayed at his house when they came
to town to talk
with his father, were put to death that day because of some silly thing. He
was very sad.
On the way to Ithaca, you could pass through Cuyler, NY and pay homage to
some ancestors.
cp in bc
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> How far is Ithaca from VT border? Only thing I know about Ithaca is that
> we had a calendar clock that was supposedly made there. It had wooden
> gears in it, I think. Ruth
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> My best friend in grade school came to class crying one day saying that his
> favourite family friends, the Rosenbergs, some nice people who always
> stayed at his house when they came to town to talk with his father, were
> put to death that day because of some silly thing
Cuyler,
Talk about a small world.
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"> My best friend in grade school came to class crying one day saying that his favourite family friends, the Rosenbergs, some nice people who always stayed at his house when they came to town to talk with his father, were put to death that day because of some silly thing</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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Subject: Re: What was "fireproofed wood" in the early 20th century?
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In a message dated 1/25/2003 2:58:42 AM Eastern Standard Time,
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> In the architecture drafting room at Cornell, my social circle was mostly
> Jewish friends from the Big Apple and we were known collectively as "J.C.
> and the boys".
In structures class, the fuckoffs I sat with were known as The Boys in the
Back Row.
Sign me,
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Ralph -
I've only had a couple martinis in my life, and neither one of them was =
the kind that James Bond would drink. They were more the girlie =
versions, one was blue with a cute umbrella in it, and I don't recall =
what the other one was, but it didn't have an olive or an onion in it. =
I'd like to try one with an olive sometime just because I like olives.
as for how the new job is going, do you want the masticated or the =
non-masticated version?
Masticated: The job's doing pretty well, and I think I'm going to like =
it here.
Non-masticated: A synopsis of my first week (all in one breath, now =
boys and girls) is that my boss was out moving into her new house the =
first three days so it was a bit slow the first couple of days which I =
figured it would be because it's academia and they're supposed to work =
slower so then on Tuesday I was driving down the thruway westbound and =
my car - a VW Golf TDI (turbo diesel injection) decided that it was just =
too frigging cold so it wanted to stop at mile marker 347.1 which is =
exactly on the Canandaigua exit and then I called AAA and they =
dispatched me to the NYS Thruway Authority to send out a tow truck and =
my husband was a few minutes behind me so he stopped to rescue me then =
the tow truck took the car to the garage and the mechanic decided all I =
needed was a new fuel filter because I have just over 30000 miles on the =
car and that's how often they recommend to change fuel filters so I =
picked up the car that night which turned into a night of no sleep =
because both of my kids were busy throwing up (and other sundry actions) =
from a virus that's running rampant throughout the Rochester area so I =
got to clean up puke in the middle of the night then my husband came =
down with the bug but was fortunate enough to make it to the bathroom in =
time so I was able to get another couple hours of sleep then while I was =
at work on Wednesday I came down with it but since it was in the =
afternoon I figured I'd tough it out because this is my first week and =
it's really quiet (in fact, it's almost library like even now) at work =
damnitall and I need to make at least a decent impression so then on =
Friday I'm driving into work and my car decides that it liked stopping =
so much on Tuesday that it would do it again westbound at mile marker =
347.0 just before the Canadaigua exit and the same tow truck guy came =
out and asked if my car just really liked that spot and then said "Your =
husband's on his way, right?" so then the garage decided maybe I was =
right before to suggest that since the car is a diesel that perhaps all =
the frigging cold temperatures did have something to do with it =
especially since there are now 5 diesel VWs in the place with the same =
problem so they are being kind enough to keep my car and do some =
experiementing on someone else's car first and they hope to have it back =
to me today but I'm not holding my breath (except to tell you this =
story).
All in all, I'm liking the job OK. I have a clunker of a PC (something =
that amazes me, seeing as this is an institute of TECHNOLOGY, but it =
runs for the most part, just doesn't like to shut down. The cool thing =
is that I'm already learning new things and also getting to teach other =
people some stuff that is new to them. I'm not sure who's the host and =
who's the symbiant ;-).
Aren't you glad you asked?
- Pam
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Ralph -
They're shaken, not stirred.
- Pam
Pam,
Somehow, I had a feeling I was going to get an answer like that. Too =
bad I'm not a martini man. More like a martinet.
Speaking of which, how's the new job?
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Ralph -</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>I've only had a couple martinis in my life, and neither one of
them was the kind that James Bond would drink. They were more the girlie
versions, one was blue with a cute umbrella in it, and I don't recall what the
other one was, but it didn't have an olive or an onion in it. I'd like to
try one with an olive sometime just because I like olives.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>as for how the new job is going, do you want the masticated or
the non-masticated version?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Masticated: The job's doing pretty well, and I think I'm
going to like it here.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Non-masticated: A synopsis of my first week (all in one
breath, now boys and girls) is that my boss was out moving into her new house
the first three days so it was a bit slow the first couple of days which I
figured it would be because it's academia and they're supposed to work slower so
then on Tuesday I was driving down the thruway westbound and my car - a VW Golf
TDI (turbo diesel injection) decided that it was just too frigging cold so it
wanted to stop at mile marker 347.1 which is exactly on the Canandaigua exit and
then I called AAA and they dispatched me to the NYS Thruway Authority to send
out a tow truck and my husband was a few minutes behind me so he stopped to
rescue me then the tow truck took the car to the garage and the mechanic decided
all I needed was a new fuel filter because I have just over 30000 miles on the
car and that's how often they recommend to change fuel filters so I picked up
the car that night which turned into a night of no sleep because both of my kids
were busy throwing up (and other sundry actions) from a virus that's running
rampant throughout the Rochester area so I got to clean up puke in the middle of
the night then my husband came down with the bug but was fortunate enough
to make it to the bathroom in time so I was able to get another couple hours of
sleep then while I was at work on Wednesday I came down with it but since it was
in the afternoon I figured I'd tough it out because this is my first week and
it's really quiet (in fact, it's almost library like even now) at work damnitall
and I need to make at least a decent impression so then on Friday I'm
driving into work and my car decides that it liked stopping so much on Tuesday
that it would do it again westbound at mile marker 347.0 just before the
Canadaigua exit and the same tow truck guy came out and asked if my car just
really liked that spot and then said "Your husband's on his way, right?" so then
the garage decided maybe I was right before to suggest that since the car is a
diesel that perhaps all the frigging cold temperatures did have something to do
with it especially since there are now 5 diesel VWs in the place with the same
problem so they are being kind enough to keep my car and do some experiementing
on someone else's car first and they hope to have it back to me today but I'm
not holding my breath (except to tell you this story).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>All in all, I'm liking the job OK. I have a clunker of a
PC (something that amazes me, seeing as this is an institute of TECHNOLOGY, but
it runs for the most part, just doesn't like to shut down. The cool thing
is that I'm already learning new things and also getting to teach other people
some stuff that is new to them. I'm not sure who's the host and who's the
symbiant ;-).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Aren't you glad you asked?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>- Pam</FONT></DIV>
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FAMILY="SANSSERIF">In a message dated 1/24/2003 4:27:59 PM Eastern Standard
Time, <A
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writes:<BR><BR><BR>
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TYPE="CITE">Ralph -</FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"
face=Arial color=#000000 size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR><BR></FONT><FONT
lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2
FAMILY="SANSSERIF">They're shaken, not stirred.</FONT><FONT lang=0
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=3
FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2
FAMILY="SANSSERIF">- Pam</FONT><FONT lang=0
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FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR>Pam,<BR><BR>Somehow, I had a feeling I was going to get
an answer like that. Too bad I'm not a martini man. More like a
martinet.<BR><BR>Speaking of which, how's the new job?<BR><BR>Ralph</FONT>
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Would somebody please explain the theory of mixed metaphors to me?
Pointing towards mixed metaphors with modern electrical kitchen appliances,
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Pam,
Thanks for telling me ALL about your wonderful first week of The New Job.
Sounds like everyhting everywhere was the best of all possible worlds, or as
I am more inclined to say, Just Fucking Swell.
Re: martinis, blue or otherwise, I don't understand how anybody can drink gin
(I actually had a taste of gin once), or grapefruit juice either, for that
matter. I am reasonably confident I don't like olives (I think I mistakenly
ate a piece of one on a pizza once), so that part of it has no appeal,
either. Buttermilk and goat's milk are also on the list of things I've
mistakenly drunk once in my life, and will never willingly go near again.
Also, I gave away my lifetime supply of cold showers; I had a roommate in
College who liked them, so I told him he could have all mine. On the other
hand, I have learned to like beer, so it's not as if I am 1000% resistant to
change, as most people who know me believe.
Your car shit sounds extremely distressing. I thought you dopes who live up
in the North Woods know all about all this cold weather shit, and would have
thought your mechanics know about car shit in cold weather. What are they, a
bunch of California beach bunnies like me?
Slow weeks at work (cat's away time) are always a pleasure in my book. On the
other hand, when in my yout' I was the assistant office boy for Cesar Pelli,
I spent a week sitting on a filing cabinet once (nobody needed any errands
run), and that was no fun at all.
Hope the Little Pams are done puking, and that you and the woggish Mr. Pam
are OK, digestively speaking. Mrs. Ralph and the Little Ralphs and I are all
OK, bowel-wise; somehow, we all escaped the recent unpleasantness. However,
since I am supposed to have my thyroid and an adjacent tumor demolished and
removed from the site this Fri, I expect to spend next week in the Jersey
Office, which will be OK by me.
Look at the bright side-- the digestive by-products don't smell as bad in the
winter as they do do in the summer. :-)
Hoping this finds you healthy, wealthy and wise, I remain,
very truly etc.
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<BR>
Thanks for telling me ALL about your wonderful first week of The New Job. Sounds like everyhting everywhere was the best of all possible worlds, or as I am more inclined to say, Just Fucking Swell. <BR>
<BR>
Re: martinis, blue or otherwise, I don't understand how anybody can drink gin (I actually had a taste of gin once), or grapefruit juice either, for that matter. I am reasonably confident I don't like olives (I think I mistakenly ate a piece of one on a pizza once), so that part of it has no appeal, either. Buttermilk and goat's milk are also on the list of things I've mistakenly drunk once in my life, and will never willingly go near again. Also, I gave away my lifetime supply of cold showers; I had a roommate in College who liked them, so I told him he could have all mine. On the other hand, I have learned to like beer, so it's not as if I am 1000% resistant to change, as most people who know me believe.<BR>
<BR>
Your car shit sounds extremely distressing. I thought you dopes who live up in the North Woods know all about all this cold weather shit, and would have thought your mechanics know about car shit in cold weather. What are they, a bunch of California beach bunnies like me?<BR>
<BR>
Slow weeks at work (cat's away time) are always a pleasure in my book. On the other hand, when in my yout' I was the assistant office boy for Cesar Pelli, I spent a week sitting on a filing cabinet once (nobody needed any errands run), and that was no fun at all.<BR>
<BR>
Hope the Little Pams are done puking, and that you and the woggish Mr. Pam are OK, digestively speaking. Mrs. Ralph and the Little Ralphs and I are all OK, bowel-wise; somehow, we all escaped the recent unpleasantness. However, since I am supposed to have my thyroid and an adjacent tumor demolished and removed from the site this Fri, I expect to spend next week in the Jersey Office, which will be OK by me. <BR>
<BR>
Look at the bright side-- the digestive by-products don't smell as bad in the winter as they do do in the summer. :-)<BR>
<BR>
Hoping this finds you healthy, wealthy and wise, I remain,<BR>
<BR>
very truly etc.<BR>
<BR>
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So what did you think INRI stood for?
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Drew -
Ken and Cuyle weren't alone (musta been the skunky school mascot), and INRI didn't mean much of anything. It was Greek to me.
- Pam
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Subject: Re: What was "fireproofed wood" in the early 20th century?
Cuyler Page wrote:
IHS I saw as a symbol on church garments did not stand for Ithaca High School
Cuyler: All these years I thought it was just me. ][<en
So what did you think INRI stood for?
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Drew -</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Ken and Cuyle weren't alone (musta been the skunky school
mascot), and INRI didn't mean much of anything. It was Greek to
me.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>- Pam</FONT></DIV>
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<P>Cuyler Page wrote:
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stand for Ithaca High School</FONT></FONT>
<P><BR><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#000000><FONT size=-1>Cuyler: All
these years I thought it was just me.
][<en</FONT></FONT></FONT></P></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>So what did you
think INRI stood for?
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 12:24:00 -0800
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So what did you think INRI stood for?=20
DD=20
Never did know, but I liked the sound if I said it like a word, and that =
was enough to make me happy, therefore spiritually uplifted.
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 16:00:11 EST
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> Thanks for telling me ALL about your wonderful first week of The New Job.
> Sounds like everyhting everywhere was the best of all possible worlds, or
> as I am more inclined to say, Just F***ing Swell. [*** inserted by list
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Ralph, if you can't keep your cursor clean, that lady from the National Parks
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<BR>Ralph, if you can't keep your cursor clean, that lady from the National Parks Service is going to sign off. Plus Ruth. There is no need to indulge in technial language. Yrs, Prima Donna</FONT></HTML>
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 16:00:48 EST
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<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">the Little Ralphs and I are all OK, bowel-wise</BLOCKQUOTE>
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> know about car s**t in cold weather
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And, references, even self-references, to medical conditions are in poor
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 16:29:18 EST
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> Ralph, if you can't keep your cursor clean, that lady from the National
> Parks Service is going to sign off. Plus Ruth. There is no need to
> indulge in technial language. Yrs, Prima Donna
I know personally that one of the reasons I liked this list was the fact that
one could tell it the way it was rather than sugar-coat everything. I feel
that rude langauge is sort of expected from Ralph by now. I know that when
he was offline due to medical problems, a lot of people missed his off white
color jokes, the same as we miss the off color lifestyle of ex President
Clinton. Like it or not, Clinton was fun. Ralph is fun, and can be helpful
at times. I was kicked off another list because I used a graphic word that
related to animal droppings. Perhaps I'm wrong, but most of what is
discussed here, is also applied in the field, and any work site brings out
colorful language. In all due respect to Ruth and the lady from the National
Parks Dept., I would simply say that if we are to be monitored for colorful
language, I would just soon remove myself from the list (not that anyone
would probably care.) So shall we cast a vote?
MJ
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/27/2003 1:01:20 PM Pacific Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0">Ralph, if you can't keep your cursor clean, that lady from the National Parks Service is going to sign off. Plus Ruth. There is no need to indulge in technial language. Yrs, Prima Donna</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="arial" LANG="0"> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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I know personally that one of the reasons I liked this list was the fact that one could tell it the way it was rather than sugar-coat everything. I feel that rude langauge is sort of expected from Ralph by now. I know that when he was offline due to medical problems, a lot of people missed his off white color jokes, the same as we miss the off color lifestyle of ex President Clinton. Like it or not, Clinton was fun. Ralph is fun, and can be helpful at times. I was kicked off another list because I used a graphic word that related to animal droppings. Perhaps I'm wrong, but most of what is discussed here, is also applied in the field, and any work site brings out colorful language. In all due respect to Ruth and the lady from the National Parks Dept., I would simply say that if we are to be monitored for colorful language, I would just soon remove myself from the list (not that anyone would probably care.) So shall we cast a vote? <BR>
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 16:37:53 -0500
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Mark -
You're right about that this is an open list. It's right there in the welcome letter. As for animal droppings, I've taken to using my favourite Norman Schwartkoffism: bovine scatology! If nothing else, I baffle 'em with it.
- Pam
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In a message dated 1/27/2003 1:01:20 PM Pacific Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
Ralph, if you can't keep your cursor clean, that lady from the National Parks Service is going to sign off. Plus Ruth. There is no need to indulge in technial language. Yrs, Prima Donna
I know personally that one of the reasons I liked this list was the fact that one could tell it the way it was rather than sugar-coat everything. I feel that rude langauge is sort of expected from Ralph by now. I know that when he was offline due to medical problems, a lot of people missed his off white color jokes, the same as we miss the off color lifestyle of ex President Clinton. Like it or not, Clinton was fun. Ralph is fun, and can be helpful at times. I was kicked off another list because I used a graphic word that related to animal droppings. Perhaps I'm wrong, but most of what is discussed here, is also applied in the field, and any work site brings out colorful language. In all due respect to Ruth and the lady from the National Parks Dept., I would simply say that if we are to be monitored for colorful language, I would just soon remove myself from the list (not that anyone would probably care.) So shall we cast a vote?
MJ
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Mark -</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>You're right about that this is an open list. It's right
there in the welcome letter. As for animal droppings, I've taken to using
my favourite Norman Schwartkoffism: bovine scatology! If nothing else, I
baffle 'em with it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>- Pam</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: "It's cold again...but hot
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FAMILY="SANSSERIF">In a message dated 1/27/2003 1:01:20 PM Pacific Standard
Time, <A href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A>
writes:<BR><BR>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"
TYPE="CITE"></FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"
face="Times New Roman" color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SERIF">Ralph, if you
can't keep your cursor clean, that lady from the National Parks Service is
going to sign off. Plus Ruth. There is no need to indulge in
technial language. Yrs, Prima Donna</FONT><FONT lang=0
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=arial color=#000000 size=3
FAMILY="SANSSERIF"> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2
FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR>I know personally that one of the reasons I liked this
list was the fact that one could tell it the way it was rather than sugar-coat
everything. I feel that rude langauge is sort of expected from Ralph by
now. I know that when he was offline due to medical problems, a lot of
people missed his off white color jokes, the same as we miss the off color
lifestyle of ex President Clinton. Like it or not, Clinton was
fun. Ralph is fun, and can be helpful at times. I was kicked off
another list because I used a graphic word that related to animal
droppings. Perhaps I'm wrong, but most of what is discussed here, is
also applied in the field, and any work site brings out colorful
language. In all due respect to Ruth and the lady from the National
Parks Dept., I would simply say that if we are to be monitored for colorful
language, I would just soon remove myself from the list (not that anyone would
probably care.) So shall we cast a vote? <BR><BR>MJ</FONT>
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 16:41:58 EST
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Subject: Re: "It's cold again...but hot online."
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In a message dated 1/27/03 4:30:21 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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> I was kicked off another list because I used a graphic word that related to
>
I forgot: you aren't even allowed to use a regular word that suggests a
vulgar word.
Sign me, The Lead Sentence On My Column About Staple Street Was Originally
"Staple Street? Where the Heck Is Staple Street?" But My Editor Said That
"Heck" Would Make Our Readers Think Of The Word "Hell", Which We Do Not Use
Except In Biblical References, And "Heck" Was Deleted.
PS The Same Paper Last Weekend Ran An Article About a Gay Steambath And
Noted The Presence Of "Holes Drilled Into Bathroom Partitions To Facilitate
Anonymous Gay Sex" And I'm Still Wondering About What That Is Supposed To
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/27/03 4:30:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
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<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I was kicked off another list because I used a graphic word that related to animal droppings. </BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BR>I forgot: you aren't even allowed to use a regular word that suggests a vulgar word.
<BR>
<BR>Sign me, The Lead Sentence On My Column About Staple Street Was Originally "Staple Street? Where the Heck Is Staple Street?" But My Editor Said That "Heck" Would Make Our Readers Think Of The Word "Hell", Which We Do Not Use Except In Biblical References, And "Heck" Was Deleted.
<BR>
<BR>PS The Same Paper Last Weekend Ran An Article About a Gay Steambath And Noted The Presence Of "Holes Drilled Into Bathroom Partitions To Facilitate Anonymous Gay Sex" And I'm Still Wondering About What That Is Supposed To Make Me Think About.</FONT></HTML>
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Do tell, how did this name come about? Ruth
At 1:45 PM -0500 1/24/03, Ralph Walter wrote:
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Mr Red Shoes?
Ruth,
Oh, no.
Compared to my dream man, Dr. Red Shoes is a prince among men. Actually, I
like Dr. Red Shoes (but not in that way), which I can't say for his
professional colleague and I believe erstwhile partner, Professor Fish
Socks, who is (in my personal and professional opinion) a smaller pile of
shit than the individual who disturbed my slumber.
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> You're right about that this is an open list. It's right there in the
> welcome letter. As for animal droppings, I've taken to using my favourite
> Norman Schwartkoffism: bovine scatology! If nothing else, I baffle 'em
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> - Pam
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Well, please, someone correct me if I am wrong, but I once heard that the "F"
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">You're right about that this is an open list. It's right there in the welcome letter. As for animal droppings, I've taken to using my favourite Norman Schwartkoffism: bovine scatology! If nothing else, I baffle 'em with it.</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
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This is a post from another list. Anyone in New Jersey familiar with this?
Sounds like something that needs to be saved instead of some goddamn greedy
developer who wants to put up another strip mall.
Steve
I received this plea via my daughter who lives in NJ. Not being familiar with
protections available in the Garden State, I am hoping someone on this list
can offer advice.
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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 17:51:21 EST
Subject: Re: Tearing Down History
Here is the info you requested. I am hoping someone from the preservation
community will get involved. At the last planning board meeting I was
thankful that a representative of the West Milford Historical Society
attended. But I find this lack of response from county, state and regional
groups appalling. The Borough of Riverdale phone # is 973-835-0783. The
Borough offices and the site of planning board meetings is 91 Newark Pompton
Turnpike in Riverdale. This is 1/2 mile west or Rt. 23 near the intersection
of Rt. 23 and Rt. 287.
Sorry, but I don't have any photos available to send via the Internet. There
were two photos accompanying the excellent write-up on the property by Eman
Voroqua of The Record. The text of this article follows.
Thanks,
Ross Kushner
Pequannock River Coalition
The Record - Thursday, January 23, 2003
By Eman Varoqua
Staff Writer
RIVERDALE - A 278-year-old estate may be in the wrecking ball's path to make
way for a strip mall. The Planning Board will hear a proposal tonight to
build a seven-store mall to replace what is locally known as Greco Farm at
Hamburg Turnpike and Ryerson Avenue. The plan has touched off a dispute that
has drawn in neighbors and preservationists, who argue that the home should
be saved as a monument to local history. But many officials in the 1.9
square-mile borough say their hands are tied. "We're a tiny town trying to
maintain a stable tax base for our seniors on fixed incomes and young
families," Mayor Michael Dedio said. "We don't have the luxury like larger
towns do to develop other areas." Plans for the six acres include
construction of a 48,000 square-foot concrete building. One store will be
larger than the rest, perhaps a chain pharmacy with a drive-through. The site
would accommodate 232 parking spaces.
The home was built by the Schuyler family in 1724 and possibly earlier, and
was part of a 51-acre tract with the main house, a mill, barn, and servants
quarters. The property was divided later, and the mill separated. The mill,
which later became the Powder Horn Mill restaurant, burned down about a
decade ago. The Schuyler's were a wealthy Dutch family who moved from New
York to North Jersey in the 1600s. They owned several metal mines, as well as
mills. When the Schuyler's sold it to the Ryerson's, the home went from one
affluent family to another. In the early 1800s, Zabriski Ryerson and his
wife, Georgianna, lived in the home. The Susquehanna and Western Railroad
asked to run a line through the property, and Ryerson agreed on condition the
train would stop for him daily on its way to New York City, where he worked.
Maud Patterson took over the property in the late 1800s and ran a tea room
that attracted Broadway stars and other celebrities - even Babe Ruth,
according to rumor. The Montrastelle family lived there before John and Mary
Greco purchased the Dutch mansion in the 1970s. The Greco family is selling
the property. "I don't blame Mary, who probably doesn't want to live in that
huge home alone," said Riverdale historian Dorothea Walker."It's makes me
absolutely sick to think that treasure will be bulldozed." Walker's son,
Skip, adds: "We feel like General Custer taking the last stand. We could move
to Florida like everyone else and not care what happens to our historical
heritage." The Walkers, a long-standing Riverdale family, envision the home
and surrounding structures could be turned into a theme restaurant - "I'd be
the first patron," Dorothea Walker said. Though neighbors support Mary Greco,
they've launched a campaign to oppose the mall, citing concern that the value
of their homes would drop. The main entrance to the mall would be on Hamburg
Turnpike; two other entrances are slated for Ryerson Avenue - a quiet side
street with only five homes. "For all we know, a McDonald's could move into
there and use the drive-through. Who wants to smell it, look at it, or live
next to it?" Lynn Krowska of Ryerson Avenue said. "We know we can't fight a
business moving in. We just don't want the entrances right in front of our
homes." The Grecos declined comment. They have been trying to sell the
property for nearly a decade. The last plan to go before the Planning Board,
for a tree nursery, was shot down a few years ago. Officials said Hamburg
Turnpike would not be able to handle trucks and tractor-trailers. At that
time, developers offered $1 million for the parcel. The current price tag is
unknown. The site is zoned for commercial business, and a strip mall would
require no variances."It doesn't deviate from the town's zoning. It's
entirely consistent with the vision that Riverdale has for development and
the use of properties," said Jerry Vogel, the attorney representing the
developers, Taurus Management. Taurus Management is buying the property,
contingent on board approval of the mall project. The Wayne firm declined to
discuss the purchase price. Members of the Planning Board have not taken a
clear stand. The preliminary application was presented to the board for the
first time last month. Board member Ted Guis said several details have to be
considered before any decision.
Environmentalists are among those watching the application closely. The
parking-lot runoff would be gathered in a catch basin and then flushed into
the Pequannock River. The river already has problems with elevated
temperature levels, and increased runoff from pavement may raise
temperatures. Also, the lot is in an area known for flooding. But it is the
historical aspects that have drawn the most concern. "Why are we destroying
our culture and heritage to replace it with a box-like structure?" said John
Capozucca, an environmental official and anti-development activist in
neighboring Bloomingdale.
Terry Meier, nee Montrastelle, fondly remembers her years growing up in the
10-room house. Meier said the house has the original woodwork, but in
disrepair. She remembered her father hired a craftsman from Italy to
duplicate the moldings and other details. "When my mother was closing the
deal, Mrs. Greco had not seen the property yet. Her husband was going to tear
it down and do something else," Meier said. "But she saw it and said, 'No
way.' She fell in love with it as we all did."
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3 FAMILY="SCRIPT" FACE="Comic Sans MS" LANG="0">This is a post from another list. Anyone in New Jersey familiar with this? Sounds like something that needs to be saved instead of some goddamn greedy developer who wants to put up another strip mall.<BR>
<BR>
Steve</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 17:51:21 EST<BR>
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Subject: Re: Tearing Down History<BR>
<BR>
Here is the info you requested. I am hoping someone from the preservation community will get involved. At the last planning board meeting I was thankful that a representative of the West Milford Historical Society attended. But I find this lack of response from county, state and regional groups appalling. The Borough of Riverdale phone # is 973-835-0783. The Borough offices and the site of planning board meetings is 91 Newark Pompton Turnpike in Riverdale. This is 1/2 mile west or Rt. 23 near the intersection of Rt. 23 and Rt. 287. <BR>
<BR>
Sorry, but I don't have any photos available to send via the Internet. There were two photos accompanying the excellent write-up on the property by Eman Voroqua of The Record. The text of this article follows.<BR>
<BR>
Thanks,<BR>
<BR>
Ross Kushner<BR>
<BR>
Pequannock River Coalition<BR>
<BR>
The Record - Thursday, January 23, 2003<BR>
<BR>
By Eman Varoqua<BR>
<BR>
Staff Writer<BR>
<BR>
RIVERDALE - A 278-year-old estate may be in the wrecking ball's path to make way for a strip mall. The Planning Board will hear a proposal tonight to build a seven-store mall to replace what is locally known as Greco Farm at Hamburg Turnpike and Ryerson Avenue. The plan has touched off a dispute that has drawn in neighbors and preservationists, who argue that the home should be saved as a monument to local history. But many officials in the 1.9 square-mile borough say their hands are tied. "We're a tiny town trying to maintain a stable tax base for our seniors on fixed incomes and young families," Mayor Michael Dedio said. "We don't have the luxury like larger towns do to develop other areas." Plans for the six acres include construction of a 48,000 square-foot concrete building. One store will be larger than the rest, perhaps a chain pharmacy with a drive-through. The site would accommodate 232 parking spaces.<BR>
<BR>
The home was built by the Schuyler family in 1724 and possibly earlier, and was part of a 51-acre tract with the main house, a mill, barn, and servants quarters. The property was divided later, and the mill separated. The mill, which later became the Powder Horn Mill restaurant, burned down about a decade ago. The Schuyler's were a wealthy Dutch family who moved from New York to North Jersey in the 1600s. They owned several metal mines, as well as mills. When the Schuyler's sold it to the Ryerson's, the home went from one affluent family to another. In the early 1800s, Zabriski Ryerson and his wife, Georgianna, lived in the home. The Susquehanna and Western Railroad asked to run a line through the property, and Ryerson agreed on condition the train would stop for him daily on its way to New York City, where he worked. Maud Patterson took over the property in the late 1800s and ran a tea room that attracted Broadway stars and other celebrities - even Babe Ruth, according to rumor. The Montrastelle family lived there before John and Mary Greco purchased the Dutch mansion in the 1970s. The Greco family is selling the property. "I don't blame Mary, who probably doesn't want to live in that huge home alone," said Riverdale historian Dorothea Walker."It's makes me absolutely sick to think that treasure will be bulldozed." Walker's son, Skip, adds: "We feel like General Custer taking the last stand. We could move to Florida like everyone else and not care what happens to our historical heritage." The Walkers, a long-standing Riverdale family, envision the home and surrounding structures could be turned into a theme restaurant - "I'd be the first patron," Dorothea Walker said. Though neighbors support Mary Greco, they've launched a campaign to oppose the mall, citing concern that the value of their homes would drop. The main entrance to the mall would be on Hamburg Turnpike; two other entrances are slated for Ryerson Avenue - a quiet side street with only five homes. "For all we know, a McDonald's could move into there and use the drive-through. Who wants to smell it, look at it, or live next to it?" Lynn Krowska of Ryerson Avenue said. "We know we can't fight a business moving in. We just don't want the entrances right in front of our homes." The Grecos declined comment. They have been trying to sell the property for nearly a decade. The last plan to go before the Planning Board, for a tree nursery, was shot down a few years ago. Officials said Hamburg Turnpike would not be able to handle trucks and tractor-trailers. At that time, developers offered $1 million for the parcel. The current price tag is unknown. The site is zoned for commercial business, and a strip mall would require no variances."It doesn't deviate from the town's zoning. It's entirely consistent with the vision that Riverdale has for development and the use of properties," said Jerry Vogel, the attorney representing the developers, Taurus Management. Taurus Management is buying the property, contingent on board approval of the mall project. The Wayne firm declined to discuss the purchase price. Members of the Planning Board have not taken a clear stand. The preliminary application was presented to the board for the first time last month. Board member Ted Guis said several details have to be considered before any decision.<BR>
<BR>
Environmentalists are among those watching the application closely. The parking-lot runoff would be gathered in a catch basin and then flushed into the Pequannock River. The river already has problems with elevated temperature levels, and increased runoff from pavement may raise temperatures. Also, the lot is in an area known for flooding. But it is the historical aspects that have drawn the most concern. "Why are we destroying our culture and heritage to replace it with a box-like structure?" said John Capozucca, an environmental official and anti-development activist in neighboring Bloomingdale. <BR>
<BR>
Terry Meier, nee Montrastelle, fondly remembers her years growing up in the 10-room house. Meier said the house has the original woodwork, but in disrepair. She remembered her father hired a craftsman from Italy to duplicate the moldings and other details. "When my mother was closing the deal, Mrs. Greco had not seen the property yet. Her husband was going to tear it down and do something else," Meier said. "But she saw it and said, 'No way.' She fell in love with it as we all did."<BR>
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Subject: Re: "It's cold again...."
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> Ralph, if you can't keep your cursor clean
Clean as a hound's tooth, that's what the inspector said.
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0">Ralph, if you can't keep your cursor clean</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
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Subject: Re: "It's cold again...."
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> And, references, even self-references, to medical conditions are in poor
> taste, and may violate patient confidentiality, if you were out of your
> mind when you wrote it. Dr. Kildare
Hmmm. I thought I was sending that one to the lovely (and theoretically
concerned) Pam. Didn't realize the rest of youse were going to get it, too.
No doubt Cuyler's got his balls in an uproar even as we speak; God knows what
the NPS lady's condition is. Well, in that case, please delete the file and
send a copy to yourselves to confirm the deletion.
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0">And, references, even self-references, to medical conditions are in poor taste, and may violate patient confidentiality, if you were out of your mind when you wrote it. Dr. Kildare</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="arial" LANG="0"> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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Hmmm. I thought I was sending that one to the lovely (and theoretically concerned) Pam. Didn't realize the rest of youse were going to get it, too. No doubt Cuyler's got his balls in an uproar even as we speak; God knows what the NPS lady's condition is. Well, in that case, please delete the file and send a copy to yourselves to confirm the deletion.<BR>
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Subject: Re: "It's cold again...but hot online."
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> PS The Same Paper Last Weekend Ran An Article About a Gay Steambath And
> Noted The Presence Of "Holes Drilled Into Bathroom Partitions To Facilitate
> Anonymous Gay Sex" And I'm Still Wondering About What That Is Supposed To
> Make Me Think About.
Speaking of bringing up lunch....
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/27/2003 4:42:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0">PS The Same Paper Last Weekend Ran An Article About a Gay Steambath And Noted The Presence Of "Holes Drilled Into Bathroom Partitions To Facilitate Anonymous Gay Sex" And I'm Still Wondering About What That Is Supposed To Make Me Think About.</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="arial" LANG="0"> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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Speaking of bringing up lunch....<BR>
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 21:06:21 -0600
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Getting kicked out of groups often makes the best stories. Sometimes=20
even ones we retell with pride. Sometimes with amazement at the=20
stupidity...sometimes the group's sometimes our own.
-jc
On Monday, January 27, 2003, at 03:41 PM, Met History wrote:
> In a message dated 1/27/03 4:30:21 PM Eastern Standard Time,=20
> [log in to unmask] writes:
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> I was kicked off another list because I used a graphic word that=20
> related to animal droppings.
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> I forgot: you aren't even allowed to use a regular word that suggests=20=
> a vulgar word.
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> Sign me, =A0The Lead Sentence On My Column About Staple Street Was=20
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Getting kicked out of groups often makes the best stories. Sometimes
even ones we retell with pride. Sometimes with amazement at the
stupidity...sometimes the group's sometimes our own. =20
-jc
On Monday, January 27, 2003, at 03:41 PM, Met History wrote:
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vulgar word.
Sign me, =A0The Lead Sentence On My Column About Staple Street Was
Originally "Staple Street? =A0Where the Heck Is Staple Street?" =A0But =
My
Editor Said That "Heck" Would Make Our Readers Think Of The Word
"Hell", Which We Do Not Use Except In Biblical References, And "Heck"
Was Deleted.
PS =A0The Same Paper Last Weekend Ran An Article About a Gay Steambath
And Noted The Presence Of "Holes Drilled Into Bathroom Partitions To
Facilitate Anonymous Gay Sex" And I'm Still Wondering About What That
Is Supposed To Make Me Think About.
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:11:57 EST
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In a message dated 1/27/2003 5:21:44 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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> Do tell, how did this name come about? Ruth
>
Ruth,
Do you, at this late date, think I make this shit up? The alleged gentleman
wore socks with images of tropical fish woven into them in a court of law in
the State of New York. I observed this with my own eyes, and it was
subsequently confirmed by more than one member of the bar. I believe, but am
not certain that, he wore these socks on the witness stand.
Ralph
PS-- Can it be that people don't wear fish socks in Vermont?
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/27/2003 5:21:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
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Ruth,<BR>
<BR>
Do you, at this late date, think I make this shit up? The alleged gentleman wore socks with images of tropical fish woven into them in a court of law in the State of New York. I observed this with my own eyes, and it was subsequently confirmed by more than one member of the bar. I believe, but am not certain that, he wore these socks on the witness stand.<BR>
<BR>
Ralph<BR>
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PS-- Can it be that people don't wear fish socks in Vermont?<BR>
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Subject: Re: "It's cold again...but hot online."
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In a message dated 1/27/2003 7:27:20 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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> "Fornication Under Consent of the King."
Would that be Elvis?
Ralph
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">"Fornication Under Consent of the King." </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
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Would that be Elvis?<BR>
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:16:15 EST
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Subject: Re: Tear down in Northern Jersey
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In a message dated 1/27/2003 9:12:56 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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> This is a post from another list. Anyone in New Jersey familiar with this?
> Sounds like something that needs to be saved instead of some goddamn greedy
> developer who wants to put up another strip mall.
>
> Steve
>
>
Steve,
No doubt you're right. You buy it, and hire Missy Julep and me and Drew and
][<en, and we'll fix it all up for you.
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/27/2003 9:12:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SCRIPT" FACE="Comic Sans MS" LANG="0">This is a post from another list. Anyone in New Jersey familiar with this? Sounds like something that needs to be saved instead of some goddamn greedy developer who wants to put up another strip mall.<BR>
<BR>
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Steve,<BR>
<BR>
No doubt you're right. You buy it, and hire Missy Julep and me and Drew and ][<en, and we'll fix it all up for you. <BR>
<BR>
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 19:32:09 -0800
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I dunno about you, but it'd sure make me think about NOT going to that
place. Sign me Most Definately Heterosexual
At 4:41 PM -0500 1/27/03, Met History wrote:
In a message dated 1/27/03 4:30:21 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
I was kicked off another list because I used a graphic word that related to
animal droppings.
I forgot: you aren't even allowed to use a regular word that suggests a
vulgar word.
Sign me, The Lead Sentence On My Column About Staple Street Was Originally
"Staple Street? Where the Heck Is Staple Street?" But My Editor Said That
"Heck" Would Make Our Readers Think Of The Word "Hell", Which We Do Not Use
Except In Biblical References, And "Heck" Was Deleted.
PS The Same Paper Last Weekend Ran An Article About a Gay Steambath And
Noted The Presence Of "Holes Drilled Into Bathroom Partitions To Facilitate
Anonymous Gay Sex" And I'm Still Wondering About What That Is Supposed To
Make Me Think About.
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 19:24:29 -0800
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Mark, Never fear on my account. Where I'm at the animal droppings, better
known by the highly technical term shit, are applied in the field at the
proper season.
At my advanced age I decided this term that I should take a college course
in children's lit. I chose the afternoon class rather than the evening one
as it fits better with caring for my Dad, etc. This means that I am in a
class with traditional college age kids. The first day the prof, who's a
really hot shit--he and I wil get along really well, asked if there were
any words we wouldn't expect to find in children's literature. One timid
little thing finally offered "bitch" in a quavering little voice. Nobody
else said anything. Not really knowing how far to go I said, "The
traditional forbidden four letter words." Prof says, "So, what are they?"
So I let 'er rip with a few while the teeny boppers sat there with their
eyes popping out. Guess they thought their generation invented those words
and us old timers never knew them. Just like my generation invented sex.
Ruth
At 4:29 PM -0500 1/27/03, Mark W. James wrote:
In a message dated 1/27/2003 1:01:20 PM Pacific Standard Time,
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Ralph, if you can't keep your cursor clean, that lady from the National
Parks Service is going to sign off. Plus Ruth. There is no need to
indulge in technial language. Yrs, Prima Donna
I know personally that one of the reasons I liked this list was the fact
that one could tell it the way it was rather than sugar-coat everything. I
feel that rude langauge is sort of expected from Ralph by now. I know that
when he was offline due to medical problems, a lot of people missed his off
white color jokes, the same as we miss the off color lifestyle of ex
President Clinton. Like it or not, Clinton was fun. Ralph is fun, and can
be helpful at times. I was kicked off another list because I used a
graphic word that related to animal droppings. Perhaps I'm wrong, but most
of what is discussed here, is also applied in the field, and any work site
brings out colorful language. In all due respect to Ruth and the lady from
the National Parks Dept., I would simply say that if we are to be monitored
for colorful language, I would just soon remove myself from the list (not
that anyone would probably care.) So shall we cast a vote?
MJ
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Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 19:39:40 -0800
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Subject: Apparently this is the week for uproar
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No doubt Cuyler's got his balls in an uproar even as we speak;
Actually, Ralph, as usual you hit a nail right on the topical head with =
mention of martinis since they are all the big news now here in BC. =
Most of the media items of the recent week centre around the Premier of =
the Province who, while in Maui for a holiday, got busted, handcuffed =
and mug-shot for drunken driving and a breath test at 1.64 on the =
roadside instrument. The papers and TV have been full of martini =
stories (he said he mixed his own at a party that night) and how many =
you have to drink to get to 1.64 and questions about whether a jerk who =
drives in the wrong lane at 90 in a 45 zone head on into oncoming =
traffic and then swerves into the bike lane for a while to avoid a car =
is trustworthy to be the great Pooh-Bah of the government. There are =
the expected questions about his ability to make good judgements, but =
mostly the populace is sitting back laughing and then forgetting all =
about it. At a press conference, he was asked if he had ever done it =
before, and amazingly his answer "I do not recall ever having done this =
before." was not jumped on with the notice that he said he didn't =
realize what he was doing during the incident in Maui either. God, even =
the press is dull witted here! However, the incident does help =
explain the insane decisions the Provincial Government has been =
decreeing this year, Historic sites, for example are being =
"Devolutionized" with bureaucrats saying with big smiles at public =
meetings that the whole point of investing millions of tax dollars into =
restoration and preservation of the places for decades has always been =
with the idea of giving them up and letting them rot one day. You bet, =
my balls are in an uproar. Maybe I should take up the taste for =
martinis to help understand this and maybe fit back into the government =
fold of nice quiet respected contractors.
Lovingly,
Cuyler
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meetings that=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Lovingly,</FONT></DIV>
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Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 06:51:35 EST
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Subject: Let SheeHee Who Is Without Sin....
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Cast stone. It was very big in the 1920's, perhaps from technological
advances of which I am unaware, with expansive ads by competing companies in
the architectural journals. The variety of cast stone was, to judge by the
examples left to us on the streets of New York, amazing. The three-story
orange and brown cast stone base course of DePace & Juster's Italian
Romanesque 1100 Park Avenue (at the northwest corner of 89th and Park) is
deep and rich with surface irregularities and color variations - a near-rival
of the delicious "real" Ohio stone of 820 Park Avenue, at 75th Street, or on
the Federal Reserve bank on Liberty Street.
Am I not looking hard, or has the "art" of cast stone fallen into desuetude?
All I see is a thin gruel of fake limestone on "contextural" projects, a
miss-by-a-mile imitation of the real thing, without any depth or variation
and, even worse, with poor aging qualities, looking like cheap lineoleum in a
grimy hospital after just a few years.
Has something happened to the cast stone industry, or is it just in New
York?
Christopher Gray
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0">Cast stone. It was very big in the 1920's, perhaps from technological advances of which I am unaware, with expansive ads by competing companies in the architectural journals. The variety of cast stone was, to judge by the examples left to us on the streets of New York, amazing. The three-story orange and brown cast stone base course of DePace & Juster's Italian Romanesque 1100 Park Avenue (at the northwest corner of 89th and Park) is deep and rich with surface irregularities and color variations - a near-rival of the delicious "real" Ohio stone of 820 Park Avenue, at 75th Street, or on the Federal Reserve bank on Liberty Street. <BR>
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Am I not looking hard, or has the "art" of cast stone fallen into desuetude? All I see is a thin gruel of fake limestone on "contextural" projects, a miss-by-a-mile imitation of the real thing, without any depth or variation and, even worse, with poor aging qualities, looking like cheap lineoleum in a grimy hospital after just a few years.<BR>
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Has something happened to the cast stone industry, or is it just in New York?<BR>
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Well, I'm not sure about the word, but I did hear one time that the universal symbol had to do with the English bowmen fighting the French. The middle finger was their "plucking" finger, and so any POW bowmen would have their middle finger removed. In an ect of defiance, the Englishmen would raise their middle finger and say, "Pluck this!"
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In a message dated 1/27/2003 1:38:52 PM Pacific Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
You're right about that this is an open list. It's right there in the welcome letter. As for animal droppings, I've taken to using my favourite Norman Schwartkoffism: bovine scatology! If nothing else, I baffle 'em with it.
- Pam
Well, please, someone correct me if I am wrong, but I once heard that the "F" word came from England in which one of the Kings allowed prostitution for a while, so it was called: "Fornication Under Consent of the King." Was it the Mormons who made it popular with polygamy? Did I say that, oh no.
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Well, I'm not sure about the word, but I did hear one time
that the universal symbol had to do with the English bowmen fighting the
French. The middle finger was their "plucking" finger, and so any POW
bowmen would have their middle finger removed. In an ect of defiance, the
Englishmen would raise their middle finger and say, "Pluck this!"</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2
FAMILY="SANSSERIF">In a message dated 1/27/2003 1:38:52 PM Pacific Standard
Time, <A
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there in the welcome letter. As for animal droppings, I've taken to
using my favourite Norman Schwartkoffism: bovine scatology! If nothing
else, I baffle 'em with it.</FONT><FONT lang=0
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FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR> <BR></FONT><FONT lang=0
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FAMILY="SANSSERIF">- Pam</FONT><FONT lang=0
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FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR>Well, please, someone correct me if I am wrong, but I
once heard that the "F" word came from England in which one of the Kings
allowed prostitution for a while, so it was called: "Fornication Under Consent
of the King." Was it the Mormons who made it popular with
polygamy? Did I say that, oh no. <BR><BR>Mark</FONT>
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I've never been one for buttermilk, except in pancakes. Tried goat's milk once, straight from the goat. Couldn't understand the desire. However, a good goat's milk cheese and a bagette from the Union Sq. Farmer's Market (does that still exist?) make for a great lunch walking up Park Ave. South - where I used to work. As for cold showers, in my book they're only useful on August nights when the temperature is 85 and it's midnight and there's no croos breeze.
The car supposedly has a bad fuel switch, which might explain why my car konked out in the exact same spot on the thruway. The mechanic suggested I find another route to work. To them it's coincidental that it was cold and there were a lot of gelled diesels. I don't think anything in cars is coincidental. Must be my inherent cynicism. So, maybe the mechanic is from California. He sounds blond, at the very least.
Little and big Pams alike are feeling much better, thank you. Best to you with the doctors.
Sign me,
The always theoretically concerned Pam
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Buttermilk and goat's milk are also on the list of things I've mistakenly drunk once in my life, and will never willingly go near again. Also, I gave away my lifetime supply of cold showers; I had a roommate in College who liked them, so I told him he could have all mine. On the other hand, I have learned to like beer, so it's not as if I am 1000% resistant to change, as most people who know me believe.
Your car shit sounds extremely distressing. I thought you dopes who live up in the North Woods know all about all this cold weather shit, and would have thought your mechanics know about car shit in cold weather. What are they, a bunch of California beach bunnies like me?
Hope the Little Pams are done puking, and that you and the woggish Mr. Pam are OK, digestively speaking.
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<DIV><FONT size=2>I've never been one for buttermilk, except in pancakes.
Tried goat's milk once, straight from the goat. Couldn't understand the
desire. However, a good goat's milk cheese and a bagette from the Union
Sq. Farmer's Market (does that still exist?) make for a great lunch walking up
Park Ave. South - where I used to work. As for cold showers, in my book
they're only useful on August nights when the temperature is 85 and it's
midnight and there's no croos breeze.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>The car supposedly has a bad fuel switch, which might explain
why my car konked out in the exact same spot on the thruway. The mechanic
suggested I find another route to work. To them it's coincidental that it
was cold and there were a lot of gelled diesels. I don't think anything in
cars is coincidental. Must be my inherent cynicism. So, maybe the
mechanic is from California. He sounds blond, at the very
least.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Little and big Pams alike are feeling much better, thank
you. Best to you with the doctors.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Sign me, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>The always theoretically concerned</FONT><FONT size=2>
Pam</FONT></DIV>
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FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Buttermilk and goat's milk are also on the list of things
I've mistakenly drunk once in my life, and will never willingly go near
again. Also, I gave away my lifetime supply of cold showers; I had a
roommate in College who liked them, so I told him he could have all
mine. On the other hand, I have learned to like beer, so it's not as if
I am 1000% resistant to change, as most people who know me
believe.<BR><BR>Your car shit sounds extremely distressing. I thought
you dopes who live up in the North Woods know all about all this cold weather
shit, and would have thought your mechanics know about car shit in cold
weather. What are they, a bunch of California beach bunnies like
me?<BR></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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I heard that they just wear the fish on there feet without any socks in
Vermont, Is this true Ruth?
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In a message dated 1/27/2003 5:21:44 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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Do tell, how did this name come about? Ruth
Ruth,
Do you, at this late date, think I make this shit up? The alleged gentleman
wore socks with images of tropical fish woven into them in a court of law in
the State of New York. I observed this with my own eyes, and it was
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<DIV><SPAN class=117543013-28012003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I
heard that they just wear the fish on there feet without any socks in Vermont,
Is this true Ruth?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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Ruth<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>Ruth,<BR><BR>Do you, at this late date, think I
make this shit up? The alleged gentleman wore socks with images of
tropical fish woven into them in a court of law in the State of New
York. I observed this with my own eyes, and it was subsequently
confirmed by more than one member of the bar. I believe, but am not
certain that, he wore these socks on the witness
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Nothing better than following a surrey wagon down the road! I'm not sure though, which smells worse, that or the cabbage in August.
- Pam
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Mark, Never fear on my account. Where I'm at the animal droppings, better
known by the highly technical term shit, are applied in the field at the
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Nothing better than following a surrey wagon down the
road! I'm not sure though, which smells worse, that or the cabbage in
August.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>- Pam</FONT></DIV>
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> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 6:52 AM
>=20
>=20
> Has something happened to the cast stone industry, or is it=20
> just in New York?
From my point of view, it is everywhere, and certainly not restricted to
cast stone. See any number of ]<en's tracts bemoaning the loss of
craftsmanship. Any of these treatments are pretty much nearly lost to
the ages. Concrete work especially has lost any semblance of art. It
seems that no one cares anymore. Boo hoo hoo.
The drive to standardization and economization strike me as the death
knell. These trends are what drove down the demand for craftsmen. See
any number of Ruskin's tracts railing against the loss of craftsmanship.
Now the client doesn't even know they can have it different if they wish
to pay for it. Of course, none wish to pay for it, so it's pain they
don't feel. Our society has anesthetized itself.
We have an addition going up on the 1920s school in one of our historic
districts; it is composed of rough-textured wire cut dark earth tone
craftsman-style brick with cast concrete window sills, inset cast
concrete lozenges, and concrete parapet. The sample cast concrete sills
and lozenges in the mock-up panel are a good color match, but the
texture is simply not there. The original has a sand surface texture,
the sample is smooth as a baby's bottom [can I say that here?]. Same
with the mortar, which is very gritty and textural in the original, and
smooth bag cement in the sample. I jokingly told the jobsite supervisor
that if we could just beat the sills with a chain, we could antique them
better to match the originals.=20
I think he's under a lot of stress on this job. After I left, he
immediately called the design architect and told him that I wanted the
sills beat up.
I want something beat up over this, but not the sills. There's a lost
art to getting them the right patina...administering beatings with
chains is not it.
_____________________________________________________
Dan Becker, Exec. Dir. "Conformists die, but
Raleigh Historic heretics live on forever"
Districts Commission -- Elbert Hubbard
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Subject: American Lime Conference in Monroe, VA
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American Lime Conference in Monroe, VA
March 1 and 2, 2003=20
Overview of speakers:
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John Robbins
National Park Service
=E2=80=9CThe Role of the National Park Service in Historic Preservation=E2=
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Paul Livesey=20
Castle Cement/Heidelberg Cement=20
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Professor John Ashurst=20
Ingram Consultancy=20
=E2=80=9CHistoric Masonry Preservation: Planning=E2=80=9D=20
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Jeff Baker=20
Mesick Cohen Wilson Baker Architects
=E2=80=9CHistoric Masonry Preservation: Research=E2=80=9D
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John Mesick
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William A. Revie=20
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=E2=80=9CWhy the Engineer needs the Material Scientist=E2=80=9D=20
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Ken Duce
National Park Service-Denver Service Center
=E2=80=9CThe Preservation of Historic Defenses=E2=80=9D=20
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Mary Catherine Martin
Lord Aeck Sargent Architects, Atlanta, GA
=E2=80=9CThe Preservation of Historic Defenses=E2=80=9D
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=E2=80=9CBiological Growth on Historic Structures=E2=80=9D=20
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March 1 and 2, 2003 <BR>
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Overview of speakers:<BR>
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John Robbins<BR>
National Park Service<BR>
=E2=80=9CThe Role of the National Park Service in Historic Preservation=E2=
=80=9D<BR>
<BR>
Paul Livesey <BR>
Castle Cement/Heidelberg Cement <BR>
=E2=80=9CEarly Cements: the Binder of 1890-1910=E2=80=9D <BR>
<BR>
Professor John Ashurst <BR>
Ingram Consultancy <BR>
=E2=80=9CHistoric Masonry Preservation: Planning=E2=80=9D <BR>
<BR>
Jeff Baker <BR>
Mesick Cohen Wilson Baker Architects<BR>
=E2=80=9CHistoric Masonry Preservation: Research=E2=80=9D<BR>
<BR>
John Mesick<BR>
Mesick Cohen Wilson Baker Architects<BR>
=E2=80=9CHistoric Masonry Preservation: Research=E2=80=9D<BR>
<BR>
Patricia Gibbons <BR>
Scottish Lime Centre Trust <BR>
=E2=80=9CHistoric Masonry Preservation: Execution=E2=80=9D <BR>
<BR>
John D. Addison, Chartered Civil Engineer and Conservation Engineer <B=
R>
Peter Stephens & Partners <BR>
=E2=80=9CTake the Strain...Gently, Please!=E2=80=9D <BR>
<BR>
William A. Revie <BR>
Construction Materials Consultants Ltd. <BR>
=E2=80=9CWhy the Engineer needs the Material Scientist=E2=80=9D <BR>
<BR>
Ken Duce<BR>
National Park Service-Denver Service Center<BR>
=E2=80=9CThe Preservation of Historic Defenses=E2=80=9D <BR>
<BR>
Mary Catherine Martin<BR>
Lord Aeck Sargent Architects, Atlanta, GA<BR>
=E2=80=9CThe Preservation of Historic Defenses=E2=80=9D<BR>
<BR>
Judith Bischoff <BR>
National Park Service-Harpers Ferry Center <BR>
=E2=80=9CBiological Growth on Historic Structures=E2=80=9D <BR>
<BR>
Shelley Sass<BR>
Sass Conservation/New York University<BR>
=E2=80=9CBiological Growth on Historic Structures=E2=80=9D <BR>
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> "Holes Drilled Into Bathroom Partitions To Facilitate Anonymous Gay Sex"
>
> At the risk of bringing up lunch yet again, I seem to remember seeing an,
> uh, educational film in my yout' (while at Columbia) which depicted
> semi-anonymous heterosexual congress conducted through a hole in a toilet
> partition. While interesting, there were limitations to its appeal.
>
> Ralph
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">"Holes Drilled Into Bathroom Partitions To Facilitate Anonymous Gay Sex" <BR>
<BR>
At the risk of bringing up lunch yet again, I seem to remember seeing an, uh, educational film in my yout' (while at Columbia) which depicted semi-anonymous heterosexual congress conducted through a hole in a toilet partition. While interesting, there were limitations to its appeal.<BR>
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> Premier of the Province who, while in Maui for a holiday, got busted,
> handcuffed and mug-shot for drunken driving and a breath test at 1.64 on
> the roadside instrument.
Cuyler,
How nice to know that government officials up there, which we tend to think
of as merely boring, are in fact every bit as stupid as our generally more
loudmouthed officials down here. On the other hand, my longstanding view of
communism is that if capitalism is as fucked up as we know it to be, how
much unspeakably worse must communism be?
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/28/2003 2:03:17 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Premier of the Province who, while in Maui for a holiday, got busted, handcuffed and mug-shot for drunken driving and a breath test at 1.64 on the roadside instrument.</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
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Cuyler,<BR>
<BR>
How nice to know that government officials up there, which we tend to think of as merely boring, are in fact every bit as stupid as our generally more loudmouthed officials down here. On the other hand, my longstanding view of communism is that if capitalism is as fucked up as we know it to be, how much unspeakably worse must communism be?<BR>
<BR>
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In a message dated 1/28/2003 9:07:09 AM Eastern Standard Time,
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> Same with the mortar, which is very gritty and textural in the original, and
> smooth bag cement in the sample.
Dan,
Bet it's got that lovely green tint that new cementitious products always
seem to have, too.
Gotta go puke now.
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Dan,<BR>
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Please keep us advised inre anti-spam filter....
I for one am ready to purchase anything that anyone endorses to cut down
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I'm sure that having the same email address for 7 yrs doesn't help...
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In a message dated 1/28/2003 6:07:09 AM Pacific Standard Time,
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> The drive to standardization and economization strike me as the death
> knell. These trends are what drove down the demand for craftsmen. See
> any number of Ruskin's tracts railing against the loss of craftsmanship.
>
There was a time in America when the craftsman was in great demand, and
valued. Then again, the craftsman was true, and not pretending to be
something he wasn't as we have all seen the effects. Unfortunately, many of
the old tricks and skills were buried with the men who held them as trade
secrets. That is why it is important to participate in some of the groups
that are doing something about it like PTN, and Virginia Lime Works. (No I
wasn't paid to say that.) They promote sharing of skills. Back in the old
days it was just as expensive for the creation as it is today, but the values
of people were different. So much of what goes on display is fake, much like
the people who possess the display. It isn't what they personally value
anymore, but rather what they think their neigbors value, which gives them a
false sense of acceptance. Is the key not in education? Educating the
craftsman and educating the client.
I was told while doing trade shows that the products I was offering were
being scoped out by others only to be mass produced at a later date. In
Matthew we read "Where your treasure is, that's where your heart will be
also." It seems the treasure is money in most cases. Sad but true.
Anything that becomes popular is soon mass produced and on sale at Walmart.
So everyone can display a fake, for their fake egos to impress their fake
friends.
You were probably right in that beating with a chain restored the sill,
however, as is true with most application, one should do it at night, unseen
by fake eyes, that begat critical mouths. Then again, maybe i have missed
the point all together.
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">The drive to standardization and economization strike me as the death<BR>
knell. These trends are what drove down the demand for craftsmen. See<BR>
any number of Ruskin's tracts railing against the loss of craftsmanship.<BR>
</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
<BR>
There was a time in America when the craftsman was in great demand, and valued. Then again, the craftsman was true, and not pretending to be something he wasn't as we have all seen the effects. Unfortunately, many of the old tricks and skills were buried with the men who held them as trade secrets. That is why it is important to participate in some of the groups that are doing something about it like PTN, and Virginia Lime Works. (No I wasn't paid to say that.) They promote sharing of skills. Back in the old days it was just as expensive for the creation as it is today, but the values of people were different. So much of what goes on display is fake, much like the people who possess the display. It isn't what they personally value anymore, but rather what they think their neigbors value, which gives them a false sense of acceptance. Is the key not in education? Educating the craftsman and educating the client.<BR>
<BR>
I was told while doing trade shows that the products I was offering were being scoped out by others only to be mass produced at a later date. In Matthew we read "Where your treasure is, that's where your heart will be also." It seems the treasure is money in most cases. Sad but true. Anything that becomes popular is soon mass produced and on sale at Walmart. So everyone can display a fake, for their fake egos to impress their fake friends.<BR>
<BR>
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There's a lost art to getting them the right patina...administering beatings
with chains is not it.
Dan,
If you can induce Twybil he may tell you his story about the chain beated
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ralph Walter
> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 12:38 PM
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> Bet it's got that lovely green tint that new cementitious=20
> products always seem to have, too.
No, actually the color they tried is nowhere near the original color of
cold grey white; theirs was a light tan/beige the color of new baby
soiled diapers.
> Gotta go puke now.
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Has something happened to the cast stone industry, or is it just in New
York?
A lot has happened to the cast stone industry... mostly it is driven by who
pays for it (the market) and what those who pay want done in respect of how
much they want to pay. There is an industry association and they do technical
research and issue publications and hold conferences.
The big money in cast stone (concrete castings) though I think is in concrete
pipe. Concrete pipe leads to capital that can in turn be invested in
aesthetic work, and so often you have firms that actually know a lot about
concrete pipe who decide to venture into aesthetic work as a market niche.
They may know about concrete pipe, but they know less about aesthetics, and
when they venture into histo presto they may know even less. If you look at
the surface area of a concrete pipe you may notice that it is not exactly
exciting stuff.
If there is no capital driven market for cast stone then it will not be
explored as a creative medium, setting aside the brilliant recent
developments in lawn elves, frogs, and prancing deer.
It is a challenge to imitate an existing manufactured product and make it
look authentic to the original. There are less than a handfull of small
manufacturers who have over the last 15 years, at least in the NYC market,
developed their skills specific to the histo presto market, such as Alan Barr
with Town House Restorations. The "brownstone" steps on the New 42dn Street
Theater are a good example.
I enjoy the challenge of repairing damaged cast stone, either historic or
new, and making it look whole. An early attempt for us at this was on the 2nd
Ave. Theater where we had to make Salmon colored patches and work chips of
white marble into them. In some respects on the theater it worked, in some
areas it continues to look like ____. That project was a classic in nightmare
management... connected with the site foreman who was caught naked by the
esteemed resident out on a Penthouse terrace at his previous project. When
concrete pipe manufaturers make limestone headers for windows on new work it
is amazing how the installers chip, scrape and otherwise muck up the pieces,
including leaving upsidedown black boot prints. So you get a 25 story school
at Battery Park with a brick & precast/limestone skin with mucked up headers
on the first floor, that obviously cannot be removed, and an architect with a
hard __ and the power of "punch list" holding up $500,000. Sometimes you can
make a lot of money with a bucket of colored mud.
Another answer to your question is GFRC. Lighter, easier, faster in
production and installation. New construction in general wants less expense,
and if there is going to be an expense for new construction, then it is more
likely that premium products, such as natural stone would be used.
Cast stone rarely seems to exist for the aesthetic possiblities of the
material in and of itself, but as a faux representation of other masonry
materials such as stone or terra cotta.
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0">Has something happened to the cast stone industry, or is it just in New York?</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
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A lot has happened to the cast stone industry... mostly it is driven by who pays for it (the market) and what those who pay want done in respect of how much they want to pay. There is an industry association and they do technical research and issue publications and hold conferences.<BR>
<BR>
The big money in cast stone (concrete castings) though I think is in concrete pipe. Concrete pipe leads to capital that can in turn be invested in aesthetic work, and so often you have firms that actually know a lot about concrete pipe who decide to venture into aesthetic work as a market niche. They may know about concrete pipe, but they know less about aesthetics, and when they venture into histo presto they may know even less. If you look at the surface area of a concrete pipe you may notice that it is not exactly exciting stuff.<BR>
<BR>
If there is no capital driven market for cast stone then it will not be explored as a creative medium, setting aside the brilliant recent developments in lawn elves, frogs, and prancing deer.<BR>
<BR>
It is a challenge to imitate an existing manufactured product and make it look authentic to the original. There are less than a handfull of small manufacturers who have over the last 15 years, at least in the NYC market, developed their skills specific to the histo presto market, such as Alan Barr with Town House Restorations. The "brownstone" steps on the New 42dn Street Theater are a good example.<BR>
<BR>
I enjoy the challenge of repairing damaged cast stone, either historic or new, and making it look whole. An early attempt for us at this was on the 2nd Ave. Theater where we had to make Salmon colored patches and work chips of white marble into them. In some respects on the theater it worked, in some areas it continues to look like ____. That project was a classic in nightmare management... connected with the site foreman who was caught naked by the esteemed resident out on a Penthouse terrace at his previous project. When concrete pipe manufaturers make limestone headers for windows on new work it is amazing how the installers chip, scrape and otherwise muck up the pieces, including leaving upsidedown black boot prints. So you get a 25 story school at Battery Park with a brick & precast/limestone skin with mucked up headers on the first floor, that obviously cannot be removed, and an architect with a hard __ and the power of "punch list" holding up $500,000. Sometimes you can make a lot of money with a bucket of colored mud.<BR>
<BR>
Another answer to your question is GFRC. Lighter, easier, faster in production and installation. New construction in general wants less expense, and if there is going to be an expense for new construction, then it is more likely that premium products, such as natural stone would be used. <BR>
<BR>
Cast stone rarely seems to exist for the aesthetic possiblities of the material in and of itself, but as a faux representation of other masonry materials such as stone or terra cotta.<BR>
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Historic sites, for example are being "Devolutionized" with bureaucrats
saying with big smiles at public meetings that the whole point of investing
millions of tax dollars into restoration and preservation of the places for
decades has always been with the idea of giving them up and letting them rot
one day.
Cuyler,
This reminds me of a black bear restoration program in Vermont I saw on TV
and how this guy raised three cubs, they were so cute, and then when they
were not so cute he let them go into the wild, with radio beacon collars and
all worried they would not get on too well in NATURE, and then they showed
another guy, what looked like a poor sap in hunting gear that could have been
Sharphooter's plumber, that shot the male bear -- the great hunter was almost
crying, least I imagined he was, while describing how he made the decision to
shoot, a very clinical, "If the bear moves towards me into that clearing
where I can get a clean shot then I shot him." So then I imagine all the
wildlife restoration folk told the guy the "long story", about the time he
got the radio beacon touting bear hauled out of his PU and into the
taxidermist's shop -- if the story and his infamous anti-PETA appearance on
PBS did not drive him to drink I don't know what would.
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Historic sites, for example are being "Devolutionized" with bureaucrats saying with big smiles at public meetings that the whole point of investing millions of tax dollars into restoration and preservation of the places for decades has always been with the idea of giving them up and letting them rot one day. </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
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Cuyler,<BR>
<BR>
This reminds me of a black bear restoration program in Vermont I saw on TV and how this guy raised three cubs, they were so cute, and then when they were not so cute he let them go into the wild, with radio beacon collars and all worried they would not get on too well in NATURE, and then they showed another guy, what looked like a poor sap in hunting gear that could have been Sharphooter's plumber, that shot the male bear -- the great hunter was almost crying, least I imagined he was, while describing how he made the decision to shoot, a very clinical, "If the bear moves towards me into that clearing where I can get a clean shot then I shot him." So then I imagine all the wildlife restoration folk told the guy the "long story", about the time he got the radio beacon touting bear hauled out of his PU and into the taxidermist's shop -- if the story and his infamous anti-PETA appearance on PBS did not drive him to drink I don't know what would.<BR>
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So I let 'er rip with a few while the teeny boppers sat there with their eyes
popping out.
Ruth,
We LOVE you!
Can't wait for your series of BP children's stories...
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"So shall we cast a vote?"
BP has RULES... and has always had rules... concerning the use of obscene
language... Rule #5 Blatant obscenity is discouraged, the expectation is that
you will make an effort to be creative.
Please take note of the requirement for "creative" use of vulgar words. It is
through the creative spirit that foul and disgusting words transend
themselves into art. Let us not speak foul in folly, but speak in earnest and
with a measured cadence to elicit smiles and trembles, before earning
ourselves disgust and the weighted acrimony of lurkers.
Thanks,
Shaman
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">"So shall we cast a vote?"</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
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BP has RULES... and has always had rules... concerning the use of obscene language... Rule #5 Blatant obscenity is discouraged, the expectation is that you will make an effort to be creative.<BR>
<BR>
Please take note of the requirement for "creative" use of vulgar words. It is through the creative spirit that foul and disgusting words transend themselves into art. Let us not speak foul in folly, but speak in earnest and with a measured cadence to elicit smiles and trembles, before earning ourselves disgust and the weighted acrimony of lurkers.<BR>
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Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 15:03:22 -0500
Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit"
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From: "J. Bryan Blundell" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: A response to ]<en
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]<en:
As I was reading your latest email related to keeping it clean, another
email arrived. The timing was perfect and it was too good to not pass on to
the BP family.
I will not provide the complete message, just the punch line ... which is
....... [Image]
How is that for basic humor.
JBB
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<font color="#000099">]<en:</font><font color="#000099"></font>
<p><font color="#000099">As I was reading your latest email related to
keeping it clean, another email arrived. The timing was perfect and it
was too good to not pass on to the BP family.</font><font color="#000099"></font>
<p><font color="#000099">I will not provide the complete message, just
the punch line ... which is ....... </font><img SRC="cid:part1.3E36E20A.435FFF43@PRGinc.com" height=22 width=25><font color="#000099"></font>
<p><font color="#000099">How is that for basic humor.</font><font color="#000099"></font>
<p><font color="#000099">JBB</font></html>
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Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit"
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Subject: A response to ]<en
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]<en:
As I was reading your latest email related to keeping it clean, another
email arrived. The timing was perfect and it was too good to not pass on to
the BP family.
I will not provide the complete message, just the punch line ... which is
....... [Image]
How is that for basic humor.
JBB
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<font color="#000099">]<en:</font>
<p><font color="#000099">As I was reading your latest email related to
keeping it clean, another email arrived. The timing was perfect and it
was too good to not pass on to the BP family.</font>
<p><font color="#000099">I will not provide the complete message, just
the punch line ... which is ....... </font><img SRC="cid:part1.3E36E21B.A3DC97AE@PRGinc.com" height=22 width=25>
<p><font color="#000099">How is that for basic humor.</font>
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Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 15:06:21 -0500
Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit"
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From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS Digest - 26 Jan 2003 to 28 Jan
2003(#2003-27)
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DD -
Is inre andthing like inri? (rhetorical question ;-))
- Pam
Please keep us advised inre anti-spam filter....
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Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 15:17:17 EST
Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit"
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In a message dated 1/28/03 3:14:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask]
writes:
> ....... How is that for basic humor.
>
Dear JBB: I have forwarded on your message to:
FROM THE DESK OF GODWIN EMEKA.
ZENITH INTERNATIONAL BANK LTD.,
LAGOS-NIGERIA.
DEAR SIR,
STRICTLY A PRIVATE BUSINESS PROPOSAL .I AM GODWIN EMEKA, THE MANAGER, BILL
AND EXCHANGE AT THE FOREIGN REMITTANCE DEPARTMENT OF THE ZENITH INTERNATIONAL
BANK LTD. .....
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/28/03 3:14:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000099" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">....... <IMG SRC="cid:X.MA1.1043785037@aol.com" ID="MA1.1043785037" WIDTH="25" HEIGHT="22" BORDER="0"></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000099" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">How is that for basic humor.</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">
<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0">Dear JBB: I have forwarded on your message to:
<BR>
<BR>FROM THE DESK OF GODWIN EMEKA.
<BR>ZENITH INTERNATIONAL BANK LTD.,
<BR>LAGOS-NIGERIA.
<BR>
<BR>DEAR SIR,
<BR>
<BR>STRICTLY A PRIVATE BUSINESS PROPOSAL .I AM GODWIN EMEKA, THE MANAGER, BILL AND EXCHANGE AT THE FOREIGN REMITTANCE DEPARTMENT OF THE ZENITH INTERNATIONAL BANK LTD. .....
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Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 15:42:07 -0500
Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit"
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Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit"
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Subject: Re: A response to ]<en
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I knew this was going to cause me trouble.
So .. back to my 'Lurkers Corner', HEY .... who took my seat.
====================
Met History wrote:
> In a message dated 1/28/03 3:14:05 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
>
>
>> ....... [Image] How is that for basic humor.
>
>
> Dear JBB: I have forwarded on your message to:
>
> FROM THE DESK OF GODWIN EMEKA.
> ZENITH INTERNATIONAL BANK LTD.,
> LAGOS-NIGERIA.
>
> DEAR SIR,
>
> STRICTLY A PRIVATE BUSINESS PROPOSAL .I AM GODWIN EMEKA, THE MANAGER,
> BILL AND EXCHANGE AT THE FOREIGN REMITTANCE DEPARTMENT OF THE ZENITH
> INTERNATIONAL BANK LTD. .....
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<font color="#000099">I knew this was going to cause me trouble.</font><font color="#000099"></font>
<p><font color="#000099">So .. back to my 'Lurkers Corner', HEY ....
who took my seat.</font><font color="#000099"></font>
<p><font color="#000099">====================</font>
<p>Met History wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=-1>In a message
dated 1/28/03 3:14:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:</font></font>
<br>
<blockquote TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><font face="Arial"><font color="#000099"><font size=-1>....... <img SRC="cid:part1.3E36EB1F.3043E474@PRGinc.com" BORDER=0 ID="MA1.1043785037" height=22 width=25></font></font><font size=+0><font color="#000000">
</font><font color="#000099">How is that for basic humor.</font></font></font></blockquote>
<p><br><font face="Times New Roman"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>Dear
JBB: I have forwarded on your message to:</font></font></font>
<p><font face="Times New Roman"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>FROM
THE DESK OF GODWIN EMEKA.</font></font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>ZENITH
INTERNATIONAL BANK LTD.,</font></font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>LAGOS-NIGERIA.</font></font></font>
<p><font face="Times New Roman"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>DEAR
SIR,</font></font></font>
<p><font face="Times New Roman"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>STRICTLY
A PRIVATE BUSINESS PROPOSAL .I AM GODWIN EMEKA, THE MANAGER, BILL AND EXCHANGE
AT THE FOREIGN REMITTANCE DEPARTMENT OF THE ZENITH INTERNATIONAL BANK LTD.
.....</font></font></font></blockquote>
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Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 16:57:17 EST
Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit"
<[log in to unmask]>
Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit"
<[log in to unmask]>
From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: A response to ]<en
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How is that for basic humor.
Bryan: Excellent! Reminds me of someone inspecting the sidewalk for BBgum. ][<
en
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Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 17:06:59 -0500
Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit"
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Sender: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit"
<[log in to unmask]>
From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: A response to ]<en
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Is that for restoring antique BBGum? Must be a once in a leaftime occurrence.
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To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: A response to ]<en
How is that for basic humor.
Bryan: Excellent! Reminds me of someone inspecting the sidewalk for BBgum. ][<en
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Is that for restoring antique BBGum? Must be a once in a
leaftime occurrence.</FONT></DIV>
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In a message dated 1/28/2003 1:29:02 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
> >Gotta go puke now.
>
> HTH.
>
Is HTH like Dillyfag or whatever that acronym was last week? I feel so
sheltered.
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/28/2003 1:29:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">>Gotta go puke now.<BR>
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Is HTH like Dillyfag or whatever that acronym was last week? I feel so sheltered.<BR>
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Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 18:00:52 -0500
Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit"
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ralph Walter
> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 5:29 PM
>=20
>=20
> Is HTH like Dillyfag or whatever that acronym was last week?
> I feel so sheltered.
Dear Mr. Al Thiemer:
Do you need to turn up your hearing aid more? I know that you don't like
to appear vain, so you tend to just nod your head as though you
understood, even when that is not the case. This from the BP Archives,
not more than 90 days ago, during our discussion of your 20th
Anniversary Mac:
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:38:52 EST
Reply-To: maybe this could fall apart after the checks clear
<BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS>
Sender: maybe this could fall apart after the checks clear
<BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS>
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In a message dated 10/30/2002 9:50:26 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
> HTH,
What means this HTH? No doubt some secret MAC club equivalent to the
Pinhead Salute.
Ralph
---------------
To which I replied:
> What means this HTH? No doubt some secret MAC club
> equivalent to the Pinhead Salute.
Hope this helps you figure it out.
Again.
__________________________________________________
Dan Becker, Exec. Dir. "Oh joy! Rapture! Now
Raleigh Historic I have a brain!"
Districts Commission - Scarecrow
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Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 21:14:33 -0500
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From: Lisa Sasser <[log in to unmask]>
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<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>Dear Mr. James,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>On behalf of any ladies from the <STRONG>National Park Service</STRONG>,<STRONG> </STRONG>whose delicate sensibilities you may have felt compelled by your gentlemanly instincts to protect from "colorful language", we have indeed been exposed the epostulatory capabilites of carpenters from Keedsyville and sundry other points, and emerged unbesmirched by the experience. With our virtue intact, we have indeed assimilated said "colorful language" in myriad mother tongues.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>Don't worry about it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>Lisa</FONT><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2></DIV></FONT>
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Our BC Provincial Parks system today announced a solution to the =
language situation. Along with putting the Provincial Parks (like State =
Parks) up for bid by private enterprise (just like the Heritage Branch =
is now doing with historic sites), they also eliminated all Parks =
Interpretation Programs. There will now be no official language at all =
in the Parks.
cp in silent bc
ladies from the National Park Service, whose delicate sensibilities =
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for bid=20
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with=20
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Programs. There will now be no official language at =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>cp in silent bc</FONT></DIV>
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Bruce, you lurker. You're right, my brain was out to lunch. I guess I was thinking of Oklahoma!
- Pam
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Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 7:13 PM
Subject: RE: "It's cold again...but hot online."
I think that is a slurry wagon if you're referring to the smell, mess, etc. making following it a problem. If you have scat, or "sugar tit" as Deb's mom would say, (at least when she wanted to say a "safe" expletive) on your surrey (with or without fringe on top) you might have a horse with a very bad problem.
-----Original Message-----
From: Pam Stevenson [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 8:34 AM
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Nothing better than following a surrey wagon down the road! I'm not sure though, which smells worse, that or the cabbage in August.
- Pam
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From: Ruth Barton
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Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:24 PM
Subject: Re: "It's cold again...but hot online."
Mark, Never fear on my account. Where I'm at the animal droppings, better
known by the highly technical term shit, are applied in the field at the
proper season.
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Bruce, you lurker. You're right, my brain was out to
lunch. I guess I was thinking of Oklahoma!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>- Pam</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
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<A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Bruce Marcham</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A [log in to unmask]
href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A [log in to unmask]
href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 28, 2003 7:13
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: "It's cold again...but hot
online."</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=570405723-28012003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I
think that is a slurry wagon if you're referring to the smell, mess, etc.
making following it a problem. If you have scat, or "sugar tit" as Deb's
mom would say, (at least when she wanted to say a "safe" expletive) on your
surrey (with or without fringe on top) you might have a horse with a very bad
problem.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Pam Stevenson [<A
href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">mailto:[log in to unmask]</A>]<BR><B>Sent:</B>
Tuesday, January 28, 2003 8:34 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
[log in to unmask]<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: "It's cold
again...but hot online."<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Nothing better than following a surrey wagon down the
road! I'm not sure though, which smells worse, that or the cabbage in
August.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>- Pam</FONT></DIV>
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<A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Ruth Barton</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: "It's cold again...but hot
online."</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT><BR></DIV>Mark, Never fear on my
account. Where I'm at the animal droppings, better<BR>known by the
highly technical term shit, are applied in the field at the<BR>proper
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Actually, I think it's halfsheimers, in Ralph's case.
- Pam
----- Original Message -----
From: Becker, Dan
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: Let SheeHee Who Is Without Sin....
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ralph Walter
> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 5:29 PM
>
>
> Is HTH like Dillyfag or whatever that acronym was last week?
> I feel so sheltered.
Dear Mr. Al Thiemer:
Do you need to turn up your hearing aid more? I know that you don't like
to appear vain, so you tend to just nod your head as though you
understood, even when that is not the case. This from the BP Archives,
not more than 90 days ago, during our discussion of your 20th
Anniversary Mac:
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:38:52 EST
Reply-To: maybe this could fall apart after the checks clear
<BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS>
Sender: maybe this could fall apart after the checks clear
<BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS>
From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Interim rule #4
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In a message dated 10/30/2002 9:50:26 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
> HTH,
What means this HTH? No doubt some secret MAC club equivalent to the
Pinhead Salute.
Ralph
---------------
To which I replied:
> What means this HTH? No doubt some secret MAC club
> equivalent to the Pinhead Salute.
Hope this helps you figure it out.
Again.
__________________________________________________
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Raleigh Historic I have a brain!"
Districts Commission - Scarecrow
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Actually, I think it's halfsheimers, in Ralph's
case.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>- Pam</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A [log in to unmask]
href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Becker, Dan</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
[log in to unmask]
href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 28, 2003 6:00
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Let SheeHee Who Is Without
Sin....</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>> -----Original Message-----<BR>> From: Ralph
Walter<BR>> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 5:29 PM<BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> Is HTH like Dillyfag or whatever that acronym was last week?<BR>>
I feel so sheltered.<BR><BR>Dear Mr. Al Thiemer:<BR><BR>Do you need to turn up
your hearing aid more? I know that you don't like<BR>to appear vain, so you
tend to just nod your head as though you<BR>understood, even when that is not
the case. This from the BP Archives,<BR>not more than 90 days ago, during our
discussion of your 20th<BR>Anniversary
Mac:<BR><BR>Date: Wed, 30 Oct
2002 10:38:52 EST<BR>Reply-To: maybe this could fall
apart after the checks
clear<BR>
<BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS><BR>Sender:
maybe this could fall apart after the checks
clear<BR>
<BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS><BR>From:
Ralph Walter <<A
href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A>><BR>Subject:
Re: Interim rule #4<BR><BR><BR><BR>Content-Type:
multipart/alternative;<BR><BR><BR>In a message dated 10/30/2002 9:50:26 AM
Eastern Standard Time,<BR><A
href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A>
writes:<BR><BR>> HTH,<BR><BR>What means this HTH? No doubt some
secret MAC club equivalent to the<BR>Pinhead
Salute.<BR><BR>Ralph<BR><BR>---------------<BR><BR>To which I
replied:<BR><BR>> What means this HTH? No doubt some secret MAC
club<BR>> equivalent to the Pinhead Salute.<BR><BR>Hope this helps you
figure it
out.<BR><BR>Again.<BR><BR>__________________________________________________<BR>Dan
Becker, Exec. Dir. "Oh joy! Rapture!
Now<BR>Raleigh
Historic I
have a brain!"<BR>Districts
Commission
- Scarecrow<BR><A href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A>
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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 08:37:58 -0500
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> Why would my email server no longer accept BP email? I get the notice, but
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Hmmm. Might be a good idea. Sign me, There Are No Bad Words, Only Evil
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deletedIlene -
We've had something recently on one of our home PCs, which is schizophrenic and has multiple email ids on it, whereby we retrieve the mail, but the contents are missing. If we shut down the email and restart it (Outlook Express), it seems then to show the contents just fine.
- Pam
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QUINN EVANS | ARCHITECTS
Ilene R. Tyler, FAIA
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<DIV><FONT size=2>We've had something recently on one of our home PCs, which is
schizophrenic and has multiple email ids on it, whereby we retrieve the mail,
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<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Why would my email server no longer accept BP
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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 09:01:47 -0600
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I have read of, and been told tales of, the contributions made by
various Ladies to the beginnings of preservation. So much of the
credit in the creation myths of preservation are heaped upon the
several male individuals enthroned at certain institutions of learning,
collecting and amusement. But I rise to acknowledge the contribution
made by the Ladies past and present. I would not refuse them the
credit, nor the mud, the blood, the beer, nor the colorful technical
language. (Not that I'm capable of watching my language that
carefully.)
What a thought for the morning?! To slam together visions of the DAR
and the current Ladies of the NPS!
It feels alright. I don't think my head will explode.
Back to work. Let's make history!
(I know Bryan...but I love to say it!)
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In a message dated 1/29/2003 5:40:33 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
> Why would my email server no longer accept BP email? Is there something
> changed on your end? We have a new spam filter, but I've asked about
> whether this blocks BP specifically, or just the digest mode. I get the
> notice, but the contents are deleted.
Ilene,
Nothing has changed on the BP end.
PC Magazine's latest issue describes how software anti-spam programs filter
and it may be that the message headers for BP appear to the software too
similar to headers for spam. There seems to be a problem finding a good
balance between automatic sifting of spam and blocking of friendly mail. The
articles in PC Mag, regardless of our proud Mac users, gives some good tips
on how to diminish spam, either by online habits or through software. I also
enjoyed the article on how ADSL vs. Cable modems connect to the Internet
backbone.
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<BR>
Ilene,<BR>
<BR>
Nothing has changed on the BP end.<BR>
<BR>
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<<> What a thought for the morning?! To slam together visions of the DAR and
> the current Ladies of the NPS!>>
DARNPS? And see interesting tale of Jane Teller Robinson, below in
mid-story...
The New York Times January 25, 1998, Sunday, Late Edition - Final
HEADLINE: Streetscapes/421 East 61st Street; From House Museum to Historic
19th-Century Hotel
By CHRISTOPHER GRAY (copyright assigned to Half-Pint)
IT wasn't built as a house, so why call it a house museum? That's what the
Colonial Dames of America decided 10 years ago when they began to reposition
the
1799 Abigail Adams Smith Museum, at 421 East 61st Street, as a historic hotel.
Now they are near the end of a $1.5 million capital campaign, and the results
offer an interesting twist on the usual formula.
What began as a barn, became a hotel and only later a country house is so
old
it's off-angle from the city street plan. It was planned in 1795 as the barn
for
Mount Vernon, the country estate of Col. William S. Smith and his wife,
Abigail.
Smith was an aide to George Washington; his wife was the daughter of John
Adams,
the second President of the United States. They planned a main house near what
is now 61st Street and First Avenue but lost the entire property before
completion in 1796; they probably never spent a night there.
In 1798 William T. Robinson, a merchant, purchased the unfinished
buildings,
and it must have been he who had the date 1799 laid in bricks among the ragged
stone of the rear facade of the museum.
Robinson advertised the estate for sale in The New York Evening Post on
Feb.
28, 1806, as a 23-acre "country seat . . . near the 5 mile stone." Robinson's
ad
described the barn as "a very ornamental building, and well arranged for
convenience and use," with stables for six horses, a coach room, shelter for
cattle, pigeon houses and a loft for 30 tons of hay.
This "beautiful situation" included an orchard with apple, pear, plum,
cherry, apricot and nectarine trees, and two wharves at the foot of 61st
Street.
But perhaps the private estate idea was too ambitious, because by 1808 the
main
house was operating as the "Mount Vernon Hotel" with a one-mile race track.
But
the main house burned in 1826 and Joseph Hart purchased the surviving barn and
renovated it as an inn, the new Mount Vernon Hotel.
In 1829 James Stuart, Earl [ERROR: Duke] of Lenox, visited the hotel, a
trip he described
in "Three Years in North America," published in 1833. He praised "the view of
the river and of the gay sailing craft constantly passing, and tossed about by
the eddies in every direction." He reported that a stage went down to the
settled part of the city two or three times a day and "during the summer
months
the great mass of the people of New York leave the town in carriages, gigs or
on
horseback, for an hour or two before sunset . . . toward the beautiful parts
of
the island including the East River shore."
"Near as we are to New York," he wrote in surprise, "and within 300 yards
of
the high road, there is neither a shutter nor a bar to a window in the house.
Clothes are laid out to bleach all night without the slightest fear of their
being carried off."
In 1833 Jeremiah Towle bought the hotel and made it into a country house.
It
must have been Towle who put in the high-style trim on the interior -- the
fluted columns and rosettes, and some astoundingly rich Greek Revival mantles,
which are no longer in the building. Towle's two daughters, Isabella and Mary,
continued to live in the house past 1900, by which time the area had been
taken
over by industry and tenements.
IN 1903 a newspaper reporter visited the house and noted that "the
beautiful
garden . . . has gone forever and the house itself will probably soon meet the
same fate."
The Towles sold two years later and the Standard Gas Light Company took
possession. Census records indicate they housed their own workers in the
building. By 1912 Standard Gas had dwarfed the building with three giant
gasholders to the east and north, creating just the kind of picturesque
contrast
that the genteel settlers of Sutton Place appreciated when that colony was
begun
in 1919.
In that year Jane Teller Robinson took over the house, apparently on a
lease
from the company. She renovated the place as "Jane Teller's Mansion" and
began a
program of spinning and weaving to enable poor people to manufacture their own
clothing.
In 1921 Robinson, who organized the "Society for the Revival of Household
Industries and Domestic Arts," relayed something of her missionary zeal to The
New York Times. She wanted to recapture an earlier time of self sufficiency,
noting that "up to 1830 nearly every house had its own flax wheel and wool
wheel
and 90 percent of all goods was made at home." Brochures from her organization
said that they were selling regularly to Abercrombie & Fitch, and that they
custom-made clothes from the sheep's wool of their clients.
Just before she took over the house the Greek Revival mantles were removed
by
Lewis B. Gautrey [ERROR: Gawtry], a banker, to his house at 58 East 66th
Street, where they
remain. At some point during her occupancy The New York Tribune reported that
plumbers had found a complete skeleton under the floorboards on the second
floor, but no further explanation was published.
Apparently Standard Gas left the house intact because it was on a high
shelf
of rock. In 1924 the company sold the house to the Colonial Dames of America,
a
patriotic and genealogical organization, for use as its headquarters. By that
time the building was being described as the house of the Smiths, apparently
confusing the barn they didn't finish with the residence they didn't finish.
Later the organization opened 421 East 61st Street as a house museum filled
with antique furniture, focusing on its tenuous connection to the Smiths and
the
early Republic.
According to Barbara Hayward, director of the museum, it was accredited in
1983 by the American Association of Museums, but with the advice that the
basic
tenet needed restudy. In 1988 the Colonial Dames of America decided to recast
the building as an early 19th-century hotel. "There are many house museums but
we're the only site that depicts hotel life," Mrs. Hayward said.
Downstairs the main hall is portrayed as the dining room, with an intact
kitchen off to one side, and a bar room and men's card room off to the other
side. On the second floor, the central area is set up as a ballroom, with a
ladies' parlor off to one side, and a hotel bedroom on the other. Much of the
furniture is in the Second Empire style, to the period of the 1820's of the
Mount Vernon Hotel.
I N the last few years the building has got new exterior woodwork,
roofing, shutters and windows, and Mrs. Hayward expects the final stages of
the
renovation -- pointing and stonework on the facade -- to begin this spring.
The
8,500 visitors every year come to see the interiors, the early kitchen
equipment, and for events like the "Washington's Birthday Ball" at 2 P.M. on
Feb. 22, with the Steuben House Dancers demonstrating (and teaching) period
dances like Fishers' Hornpipe, Haste to the Wedding, Black Joke and Hole in
Wall. Tickets for the event, at $5 for adults and $3 for children under 12 and
members, must be reserved, at (212) 838-6878. The museum is open Tuesdays
through Sundays, 11 A.M. to 4 P.M. Admission is $3 for adults, $2 for students
and the elderly, free for members and children under 12.
It is a curious building -- barn, hotel, residence, museum -- emblematic
of a
search by such historic sites everywhere to venture beyond the gentry worship
of
their origins earlier in this century.
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<BR>DARNPS? And see interesting tale of Jane Teller Robinson, below in mid-story...
<BR>
<BR>The New York Times January 25, 1998, Sunday, Late Edition - Final
<BR>
<BR>HEADLINE: Streetscapes/421 East 61st Street; From House Museum to Historic 19th-Century Hotel
<BR>
<BR>By CHRISTOPHER GRAY (copyright assigned to Half-Pint)
<BR>
<BR> IT wasn't built as a house, so why call it a house museum? That's what the
<BR>Colonial Dames of America decided 10 years ago when they began to reposition the
<BR>1799 Abigail Adams Smith Museum, at 421 East 61st Street, as a historic hotel.
<BR>Now they are near the end of a $1.5 million capital campaign, and the results
<BR>offer an interesting twist on the usual formula.
<BR>
<BR> What began as a barn, became a hotel and only later a country house is so old
<BR>it's off-angle from the city street plan. It was planned in 1795 as the barn for
<BR>Mount Vernon, the country estate of Col. William S. Smith and his wife, Abigail.
<BR>Smith was an aide to George Washington; his wife was the daughter of John Adams,
<BR>the second President of the United States. They planned a main house near what
<BR>is now 61st Street and First Avenue but lost the entire property before
<BR>completion in 1796; they probably never spent a night there.
<BR>
<BR> In 1798 William T. Robinson, a merchant, purchased the unfinished buildings,
<BR>and it must have been he who had the date 1799 laid in bricks among the ragged
<BR>stone of the rear facade of the museum.
<BR>
<BR> Robinson advertised the estate for sale in The New York Evening Post on Feb.
<BR>28, 1806, as a 23-acre "country seat . . . near the 5 mile stone." Robinson's ad
<BR>described the barn as "a very ornamental building, and well arranged for
<BR>convenience and use," with stables for six horses, a coach room, shelter for
<BR>cattle, pigeon houses and a loft for 30 tons of hay.
<BR>
<BR> This "beautiful situation" included an orchard with apple, pear, plum,
<BR>cherry, apricot and nectarine trees, and two wharves at the foot of 61st Street.
<BR>But perhaps the private estate idea was too ambitious, because by 1808 the main
<BR>house was operating as the "Mount Vernon Hotel" with a one-mile race track. But
<BR>the main house burned in 1826 and Joseph Hart purchased the surviving barn and
<BR>renovated it as an inn, the new Mount Vernon Hotel.
<BR>
<BR> In 1829 James Stuart, Earl [ERROR: Duke] of Lenox, visited the hotel, a trip he described
<BR>in "Three Years in North America," published in 1833. He praised "the view of
<BR>the river and of the gay sailing craft constantly passing, and tossed about by
<BR>the eddies in every direction." He reported that a stage went down to the
<BR>settled part of the city two or three times a day and "during the summer months
<BR>the great mass of the people of New York leave the town in carriages, gigs or on
<BR>horseback, for an hour or two before sunset . . . toward the beautiful parts of
<BR>the island including the East River shore."
<BR>
<BR> "Near as we are to New York," he wrote in surprise, "and within 300 yards of
<BR>the high road, there is neither a shutter nor a bar to a window in the house.
<BR>Clothes are laid out to bleach all night without the slightest fear of their
<BR>being carried off."
<BR>
<BR> In 1833 Jeremiah Towle bought the hotel and made it into a country house. It
<BR>must have been Towle who put in the high-style trim on the interior -- the
<BR>fluted columns and rosettes, and some astoundingly rich Greek Revival mantles,
<BR>which are no longer in the building. Towle's two daughters, Isabella and Mary,
<BR>continued to live in the house past 1900, by which time the area had been taken
<BR>over by industry and tenements.
<BR>
<BR> IN 1903 a newspaper reporter visited the house and noted that "the beautiful
<BR>garden . . . has gone forever and the house itself will probably soon meet the
<BR>same fate."
<BR>
<BR> The Towles sold two years later and the Standard Gas Light Company took
<BR>possession. Census records indicate they housed their own workers in the
<BR>building. By 1912 Standard Gas had dwarfed the building with three giant
<BR>gasholders to the east and north, creating just the kind of picturesque contrast
<BR>that the genteel settlers of Sutton Place appreciated when that colony was begun
<BR>in 1919.
<BR>
<BR> In that year Jane Teller Robinson took over the house, apparently on a lease
<BR>from the company. She renovated the place as "Jane Teller's Mansion" and began a
<BR>program of spinning and weaving to enable poor people to manufacture their own
<BR>clothing.
<BR>
<BR> In 1921 Robinson, who organized the "Society for the Revival of Household
<BR>Industries and Domestic Arts," relayed something of her missionary zeal to The
<BR>New York Times. She wanted to recapture an earlier time of self sufficiency,
<BR>noting that "up to 1830 nearly every house had its own flax wheel and wool wheel
<BR>and 90 percent of all goods was made at home." Brochures from her organization
<BR>said that they were selling regularly to Abercrombie & Fitch, and that they
<BR>custom-made clothes from the sheep's wool of their clients.
<BR>
<BR> Just before she took over the house the Greek Revival mantles were removed by
<BR>Lewis B. Gautrey [ERROR: Gawtry], a banker, to his house at 58 East 66th Street, where they
<BR>remain. At some point during her occupancy The New York Tribune reported that
<BR>plumbers had found a complete skeleton under the floorboards on the second
<BR>floor, but no further explanation was published.
<BR>
<BR> Apparently Standard Gas left the house intact because it was on a high shelf
<BR>of rock. In 1924 the company sold the house to the Colonial Dames of America, a
<BR>patriotic and genealogical organization, for use as its headquarters. By that
<BR>time the building was being described as the house of the Smiths, apparently
<BR>confusing the barn they didn't finish with the residence they didn't finish.
<BR>
<BR> Later the organization opened 421 East 61st Street as a house museum filled
<BR>with antique furniture, focusing on its tenuous connection to the Smiths and the
<BR>early Republic.
<BR>
<BR> According to Barbara Hayward, director of the museum, it was accredited in
<BR>1983 by the American Association of Museums, but with the advice that the basic
<BR>tenet needed restudy. In 1988 the Colonial Dames of America decided to recast
<BR>the building as an early 19th-century hotel. "There are many house museums but
<BR>we're the only site that depicts hotel life," Mrs. Hayward said.
<BR>
<BR> Downstairs the main hall is portrayed as the dining room, with an intact
<BR>kitchen off to one side, and a bar room and men's card room off to the other
<BR>side. On the second floor, the central area is set up as a ballroom, with a
<BR>ladies' parlor off to one side, and a hotel bedroom on the other. Much of the
<BR>furniture is in the Second Empire style, to the period of the 1820's of the
<BR>Mount Vernon Hotel.
<BR>
<BR> I N the last few years the building has got new exterior woodwork,
<BR>roofing, shutters and windows, and Mrs. Hayward expects the final stages of the
<BR>renovation -- pointing and stonework on the facade -- to begin this spring. The
<BR>8,500 visitors every year come to see the interiors, the early kitchen
<BR>equipment, and for events like the "Washington's Birthday Ball" at 2 P.M. on
<BR>Feb. 22, with the Steuben House Dancers demonstrating (and teaching) period
<BR>dances like Fishers' Hornpipe, Haste to the Wedding, Black Joke and Hole in
<BR>Wall. Tickets for the event, at $5 for adults and $3 for children under 12 and
<BR>members, must be reserved, at (212) 838-6878. The museum is open Tuesdays
<BR>through Sundays, 11 A.M. to 4 P.M. Admission is $3 for adults, $2 for students
<BR>and the elderly, free for members and children under 12.
<BR>
<BR> It is a curious building -- barn, hotel, residence, museum -- emblematic of a
<BR>search by such historic sites everywhere to venture beyond the gentry worship of
<BR>their origins earlier in this century.
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And see interesting tale of Jane Teller Robinson, below in mid-story...
Sharpshooter: I remember reading this in hard copy in '98. Boy, those were
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Yeah, somewhat the lurker. Backchannel too.
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Bruce, you lurker. You're right, my brain was out to lunch. I guess I was
thinking of Oklahoma!
- Pam
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I think that is a slurry wagon if you're referring to the smell, mess, etc.
making following it a problem. If you have scat, or "sugar tit" as Deb's
mom would say, (at least when she wanted to say a "safe" expletive) on your
surrey (with or without fringe on top) you might have a horse with a very
bad problem.
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Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 8:34 AM
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Nothing better than following a surrey wagon down the road! I'm not sure
though, which smells worse, that or the cabbage in August.
- Pam
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Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:24 PM
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Mark, Never fear on my account. Where I'm at the animal droppings, better
known by the highly technical term shit, are applied in the field at the
proper season.
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<DIV><SPAN class=870124616-29012003><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>Yeah,
somewhat the lurker. Backchannel too.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Pam Stevenson
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 29, 2003
8:18 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
[log in to unmask]<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: "It's cold
again...but hot online."<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Bruce, you lurker. You're right, my brain was out to
lunch. I guess I was thinking of Oklahoma!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>- Pam</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=570405723-28012003><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>I
think that is a slurry wagon if you're referring to the smell, mess, etc.
making following it a problem. If you have scat, or "sugar
tit" as Deb's mom would say, (at least when she wanted to say a
"safe" expletive) on your surrey (with or without fringe on top)
you might have a horse with a very bad problem.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Pam Stevenson [<A
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Tuesday, January 28, 2003 8:34 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
[log in to unmask]<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: "It's
cold again...but hot online."<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Nothing better than following a surrey wagon down the
road! I'm not sure though, which smells worse, that or the cabbage in
August.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>- Pam</FONT></DIV>
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10:24 PM</DIV>
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again...but hot online."</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT><BR></DIV>Mark, Never fear on my
account. Where I'm at the animal droppings, better<BR>known by the
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In a message dated 1/28/2003 6:02:20 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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> Dear Mr. Al Thiemer:
>
> Do you need to turn up your hearing aid more? I know that you don't like
> to appear vain, so you tend to just nod your head as though you
> understood, even when that is not the case. This from the BP Archives,
> not more than 90 days ago, during our discussion of your 20th
> Anniversary Mac:
>
Dan,
Thank God somebody remembers all the shit I forget. Evidently the advanced
age is getting to me. Whether it's a brain fart or a ministroke or a
maladjustment of the medication, I definitely seem to be a victim of CRS.
Ralph
Meanwhile, what is HTH?
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Dear Mr. Al Thiemer:<BR>
<BR>
Do you need to turn up your hearing aid more? I know that you don't like<BR>
to appear vain, so you tend to just nod your head as though you<BR>
understood, even when that is not the case. This from the BP Archives,<BR>
not more than 90 days ago, during our discussion of your 20th<BR>
Anniversary Mac:<BR>
</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
<BR>
Dan,<BR>
<BR>
Thank God somebody remembers all the shit I forget. Evidently the advanced age is getting to me. Whether it's a brain fart or a ministroke or a maladjustment of the medication, I definitely seem to be a victim of CRS.<BR>
<BR>
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In a message dated 1/29/2003 2:54:24 AM Eastern Standard Time,
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> There will now be no official language at all in the Parks.
Cuyler,
So if the Iraqis come and buy your parks and Heritage Houses, they can say
whatever they want in whatever language they choose, whether Lisa and Ruth
(or their Canadian Counterparts) like it or not? Are they free not to talk
to the RCMP's or the FBI?
Maybe you should consider coming back to upstate Noo Yawk and see that Imre
Inre guy at IHS you've been talking about
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<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"> There will now be no official language at all in the Parks.</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
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Cuyler,<BR>
<BR>
So if the Iraqis come and buy your parks and Heritage Houses, they can say whatever they want in whatever language they choose, whether Lisa and Ruth (or their Canadian Counterparts) like it or not? Are they free <U>not</U> to talk to the RCMP's or the FBI?<BR>
<BR>
Maybe you should consider coming back to upstate Noo Yawk and see that Imre Inre guy at IHS you've been talking about<BR>
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In a message dated 1/29/2003 8:18:30 AM Eastern Standard Time,
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> I think that is a slurry wagon if you're referring to the smell, mess, etc.
> making following it a problem. If you have scat, or "sugar tit" as Deb's
> mom would say, (at least when she wanted to say a "safe" expletive) on your
> surrey (with or without fringe on top) you might have a horse with a very
> bad problem.
>
>
Seems to me that we also had a discussion of honey wagons and related
conveyances some months ago, which appear to indicate that not onlt does
everything turn to shit, but it returns to shit.
Hope This Helps.
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<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR="#0000ff" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">I think that is a slurry wagon if you're referring to the smell, mess, etc. making following it a problem. If you have scat, or "sugar tit" as Deb's mom would say, (at least when she wanted to say a "safe" expletive) on your surrey (with or without fringe on top) you might have a horse with a very bad problem.</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
<BR>
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Seems to me that we also had a discussion of honey wagons and related conveyances some months ago, which appear to indicate that not onlt does everything turn to shit, but it returns to shit.<BR>
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Hope This Helps.<BR>
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Subject: Re: Let SheeHee Who Is Without Sin....
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In a message dated 1/29/2003 8:20:35 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
> Actually, I think it's halfsheimers, in Ralph's case.
>
> - Pam
>
Nice, Pam, real nice. Making fun of the mnemonically challenged. Next
thing, you'll change you email address again. Just wait and see which of
these OTHER assholes gives you such worthless advice on what's wrong with
your house.
Sniff.
Ralph
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/29/2003 8:20:35 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Actually, I think it's halfsheimers, in Ralph's case.</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
<BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">- Pam</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
Nice, Pam, real nice. Making fun of the mnemonically challenged. Next thing, you'll change you email address again. Just wait and see which of these OTHER assholes gives you such worthless advice on what's wrong with your house.<BR>
<BR>
Sniff.<BR>
<BR>
Ralph<BR>
<BR>
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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:36:04 EST
Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit"
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From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]>
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In a message dated 1/29/2003 8:40:33 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
> Why would my email server no longer accept BP email? Is there something
> changed on your end?
Ilene,
It's your lucky day.
Ralph
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/29/2003 8:40:33 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Why would my email server no longer accept BP email? Is there something changed on your end?</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
<BR>
Ilene,<BR>
<BR>
It's your lucky day.<BR>
<BR>
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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:37:49 EST
Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit"
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From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Progress of the Ladies
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In a message dated 1/29/2003 10:01:58 AM Eastern Standard Time,
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> Back to work. Let's make history!
>
It's our job to FIX history.
Ralph
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<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Back to work. Let's make history!<BR>
</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
<BR>
It's our job to FIX history. <BR>
<BR>
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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:40:43 -0500
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From: Pam Stevenson <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Let SheeHee Who Is Without Sin....
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Ah, Ralph, you know I love you, halfheimers and everything, including the incredibly useful house advice!
I'm not trying to change my email address again (keeping my head low, and maybe now I'm in an environment that's less condusive to layoffitis). I think the local email servers have an email address of the day contest. I've seen so many different versions of my new email address that I don't know what to make of it. "They" say there's a plan afoot to standardize this stuff, but I'll see it when I believe it.
- Pam
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From: Ralph Walter
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 12:35 PM
Subject: Re: Let SheeHee Who Is Without Sin....
In a message dated 1/29/2003 8:20:35 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
Actually, I think it's halfsheimers, in Ralph's case.
- Pam
Nice, Pam, real nice. Making fun of the mnemonically challenged. Next thing, you'll change you email address again. Just wait and see which of these OTHER assholes gives you such worthless advice on what's wrong with your house.
Sniff.
Ralph
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Ah, Ralph, you know I love you, halfheimers and everything,
including the incredibly useful house advice!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>I'm not trying to change my email address again (keeping my
head low, and maybe now I'm in an environment that's less condusive to
layoffitis). I think the local email servers have an email address of the
day contest. I've seen so many different versions of my new email address
that I don't know what to make of it. "They" say there's a plan afoot to
standardize this stuff, but I'll see it when I believe it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>- Pam</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Ralph Walter</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
[log in to unmask]
href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 29, 2003 12:35
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Let SheeHee Who Is Without
Sin....</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0
face=Arial size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">In a message dated 1/29/2003 8:20:35 AM
Eastern Standard Time, <A
href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A>
writes:<BR><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"
TYPE="CITE">Actually, I think it's halfsheimers, in Ralph's
case.</FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial
color=#000000 size=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR> <BR></FONT><FONT lang=0
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2
FAMILY="SANSSERIF">- Pam</FONT><FONT lang=0
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=3
FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2
FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR>Nice, Pam, real nice. Making fun of the
mnemonically challenged. Next thing, you'll change you email address
again. Just wait and see which of these OTHER assholes gives you such
worthless advice on what's wrong with your
house.<BR><BR>Sniff.<BR><BR>Ralph<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></FONT></BODY></HTML>
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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 11:41:51 -0600
Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit"
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From: John Callan <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Progress of the Ladies
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Its broken again?! Damn! And out of warrantee too!
-jc
On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, at 11:37 AM, Ralph Walter wrote:
> In a message dated 1/29/2003 10:01:58 AM Eastern Standard Time,=20
> [log in to unmask] writes:
>
> Back to work.=A0 Let's make history!
>
>
>
> It's our job to FIX history.
>
> Ralph
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Its broken again?! Damn! And out of warrantee too! =20
-jc
On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, at 11:37 AM, Ralph Walter wrote:
<excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>In a message dated
1/29/2003 10:01:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask]
writes:
</smaller></fontfamily>Back to work.=A0 Let's make history!
It's our job to FIX history.
Ralph
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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:45:07 EST
Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit"
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From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Progress of the Ladies
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In a message dated 1/29/2003 10:44:32 AM Eastern Standard Time,
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> Much of the furniture is in the Second Empire style, to the period of the
> 1820's
Sir:
Since when did the Second Empire begin (or otherwise exist) in the 1820's?
Sign me,
Student of Marcus Whiffen
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/29/2003 10:44:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0">Much of the furniture is in the Second Empire style, to the period of the 1820's </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0"><BR>
<BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0">Sir:<BR>
<BR>
Since when did the Second Empire begin (or otherwise exist) in the 1820's?<BR>
<BR>
Sign me,<BR>
<BR>
Student of Marcus Whiffen<BR>
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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:47:34 EST
Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit"
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From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Let SheeHee Who Is Without Sin....
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In a message dated 1/29/2003 12:41:26 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
> Ah, Ralph, you know I love you, halfheimers and everything, including the
> incredibly useful house advice!
>
Pam,.
Yeah, that's what they all say. Especially the mothers of the girls I used
to date.
Ralph
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/29/2003 12:41:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Ah, Ralph, you know I love you, halfheimers and everything, including the incredibly useful house advice!</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Pam,.<BR>
<BR>
Yeah, that's what they all say. Especially the mothers of the girls I used to date.<BR>
<BR>
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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 14:22:36 -0500
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Subject: Re: Let SheeHee Who Is Without Sin....
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And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson....
----- Original Message -----
From: Ralph Walter
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: Let SheeHee Who Is Without Sin....
In a message dated 1/29/2003 12:41:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
Ah, Ralph, you know I love you, halfheimers and everything, including the incredibly useful house advice!
Pam,.
Yeah, that's what they all say. Especially the mothers of the girls I used to date.
Ralph
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<DIV><FONT size=2>And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson....</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Ralph Walter</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
[log in to unmask]
href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 29, 2003 12:47
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Let SheeHee Who Is Without
Sin....</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2
FAMILY="SANSSERIF">In a message dated 1/29/2003 12:41:26 PM Eastern Standard
Time, <A
href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A>
writes:<BR><BR>
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including the incredibly useful house advice!</FONT><FONT lang=0
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=3
FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2
FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Pam,.<BR><BR>Yeah, that's what they all say.
Especially the mothers of the girls I used to date.<BR><BR>Ralph</FONT>
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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 14:53:24 EST
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From: Met History <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: or, 1.5 cents a word....
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Cross-posted from H-Urban...
From: Steven A Riess <[log in to unmask]>
I have been invited by a major publisher to edit a 600,000 word Encyclopedia=
=20
of Major League Baseball Teams.=A0 This two-volume reference work is intende=
d=20
to fill a significant gap in the reference field.=A0 While there are=20
encyclopedias of individual baseball teams, this work will consist of essays=
=20
detailing the history of all the current thirty major league teams.=A0 The=20
intent is for the articles to be scholarly, analytical narratives that go=20
beyond the recounting of team glories year by year.=A0 My aim is to have ess=
ays=20
written that not only recount each team's annual campaigns, their players,=20
and managers, but also provide a social and economic history of each club. I=
=20
do not expect these to works of original research.=A0 I'm pretty sure nearly=
=20
everything one would need to fulfill the assignment is available in secondar=
y=20
sources. I am looking for essays that contextualize team histories in the=20
broader picture of sport and the development of their histories. I am lookin=
g=20
for essays that not only examine the teams' performance on the field, but of=
f=20
the field as well. The essays will deal in depth with the teams as urban=20
business enterprises that deal with labor issues, local governments and=20
politicians, and such major economic matters as the construction of=20
ballparks.=A0 Hence an essay on the White Sox will examine Comiskey's=20
development of his early ballparks, and will also consider how current owner=
s=20
of the team secured public financing of the ballpark. In fact, a major issue=
=20
for the essays since the 1950s would be the evolving relationship between=20
teams and cities as owners moved or threatened to move franchises to secure=20
financial support from local governments.=A0 I also hope contributors will=20
consider the particularistic relationship of a team to their hometowns.
This letter is being sent to baseball experts in NASSH, who comprise a core,=
=20
but certainly not all baseball scholars.=A0 While this project is=20
intellectually a feasible and significant project, there are practical=20
considerations.=A0 I am looking to you for some input as to viability.=A0 We=
know=20
there are a sufficient number of experts to undertake the project, but there=
=20
are practical considerations, namely time and money.=A0=A0 I am indicating b=
elow=20
the approximate length of contributions as I envision them, along with=20
compensation.=A0 The compensation will include a stipend and a copy of the t=
wo=20
volume work (the encyclopedia will sell for $150 a volume).=A0 The stipends=20
vary depending on the length of the contribution.=A0 Stipends for the longer=
=20
entries are real money, however, the cash compensation is certainly far belo=
w=20
what each author's input should merit if I had an unlimited budget.=A0 The=20
publisher has budgeted $10,000 for the thirty entries and $10,000 for visual=
=20
materials. The author's sole responsibility is to complete a first-rate=20
essay.=A0 All editorial work, including indexing will be done by the=20
publisher.=A0 It would certainly be possible for authors to split assignment=
s,=20
especially for teams like the Braves that have moved a lot.
I am not asking anyone to commit themselves to the project, but frankly am=20
looking for interest or lack of interest.=A0=A0 Please contact me if you are=
=20
potentially interested. Please contact me if you are not interested and let=20
me know why.
Steve Riess=A0=20
Northeastern Illinois University
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edia of Major League Baseball Teams.=A0 This two-volume reference work is in=
tended to fill a significant gap in the reference field.=A0 While there are=20=
encyclopedias of individual baseball teams, this work will consist of essays=
detailing the history of all the current thirty major league teams.=A0 The=20=
intent is for the articles to be scholarly, analytical narratives that go be=
yond the recounting of team glories year by year.=A0 My aim is to have essay=
s written that not only recount each team's annual campaigns, their players,=
and managers, but also provide a social and economic history of each club.=20=
I do not expect these to works of original research.=A0 I'm pretty sure near=
ly everything one would need to fulfill the assignment is available in secon=
dary sources. I am looking for essays that contextualize team histories in t=
he broader picture of sport and the development of their histories. I am loo=
king for essays that not only examine the teams' performance on the field, b=
ut off the field as well. The essays will deal in depth with the teams as ur=
ban business enterprises that deal with labor issues, local governments and=20=
politicians, and such major economic matters as the construction of ballpark=
s.=A0 Hence an essay on the White Sox will examine Comiskey's development of=
his early ballparks, and will also consider how current owners of the team=20=
secured public financing of the ballpark. In fact, a major issue for the ess=
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port from local governments.=A0 I also hope contributors will consider the p=
articularistic relationship of a team to their hometowns.
<BR>
<BR>This letter is being sent to baseball experts in NASSH, who comprise a c=
ore, but certainly not all baseball scholars.=A0 While this project is intel=
lectually a feasible and significant project, there are practical considerat=
ions.=A0 I am looking to you for some input as to viability.=A0 We know ther=
e are a sufficient number of experts to undertake the project, but there are=
practical considerations, namely time and money.=A0=A0 I am indicating belo=
w the approximate length of contributions as I envision them, along with com=
pensation.=A0 The compensation will include a stipend and a copy of the two=20=
volume work (the encyclopedia will sell for $150 a volume).=A0 The stipends=20=
vary depending on the length of the contribution.=A0 Stipends for the longer=
entries are real money, however, the cash compensation is certainly far bel=
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al materials. The author's sole responsibility is to complete a first-rate e=
ssay.=A0 All editorial work, including indexing will be done by the publishe=
r.=A0 It would certainly be possible for authors to split assignments, espec=
ially for teams like the Braves that have moved a lot.
<BR>
<BR>I am not asking anyone to commit themselves to the project, but frankly=20=
am looking for interest or lack of interest.=A0=A0 Please contact me if you=20=
are potentially interested. Please contact me if you are not interested and=20=
let me know why.
<BR>
<BR>Steve Riess=A0=20
<BR>Northeastern Illinois University</FONT></HTML>
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Sharpshooter,
Tell me, seriously, is this how encyclopedic books come into existence?
What I gather is the assignment is to read all the secondary sources a hack
can find on baseball, steal what the sources say, artfully paraphrase if you
will, and pump out a small portion of 600,000 words.
Since I know or care next to nothing about baseball possibly this would make
a good weekend hobby? Gab & Eti dust 1st base!
][<en
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Sharpshooter,<BR>
<BR>
Tell me, seriously, is this how encyclopedic books come into existence?<BR>
<BR>
What I gather is the assignment is to read all the secondary sources a hack can find on baseball, steal what the sources say, artfully paraphrase if you will, and pump out a small portion of 600,000 words.<BR>
<BR>
Since I know or care next to nothing about baseball possibly this would make a good weekend hobby? Gab & Eti dust 1st base!<BR>
<BR>
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Gee, when does he ask for our bank account number to make the deposit?
Mogambi Twybil
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We have a wonderful group, known locally as the "Preservation Ladies"
for perceived historical reasons. We meet once a month for lunch and
discussion. Most are graduates of the EMU HP program, plus a few like
me who did not. We have become a force to be reckoned with once riled,
and it's great networking with a bunch of people with preservation being
the common thread. A couple men are on the invite list, but they rarely
come; it really is just us Ladies.
QUINN EVANS | ARCHITECTS
Ilene R. Tyler, FAIA
219 1/2 N. Main Street
Ann Arbor, MI 48104
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Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 10:02 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Progress of the Ladies
I have read of, and been told tales of, the contributions made by
various Ladies to the beginnings of preservation. So much of the credit
in the creation myths of preservation are heaped upon the several male
individuals enthroned at certain institutions of learning, collecting
and amusement. But I rise to acknowledge the contribution made by the
Ladies past and present. I would not refuse them the credit, nor the
mud, the blood, the beer, nor the colorful technical language. (Not
that I'm capable of watching my language that
carefully.)
What a thought for the morning?! To slam together visions of the DAR
and the current Ladies of the NPS!
It feels alright. I don't think my head will explode.
Back to work. Let's make history!
(I know Bryan...but I love to say it!)
-jc
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> Tell me, seriously, is this how encyclopedic books come into existence?
>
You better believe it, Bartleby. The pay rate on the MacMillan Enclopedia of
Architects was, as I recall, 0.3 cents a word. A lot of architectural
historians got filthy rich!!! Of course, that was during the dot.com
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Subject: Thanks everybody, Peter took off four minutes ago...
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...for New Zealand, the country so beautiful they say ... you never come back.
PS he left with $1480 in his pocket, or at least his debit card.
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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 08:45:17 -0800
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I thought the big money was in the asthetically pleasing, ever present,
"Jersey barrier" which seems to have migrated north and now graces our
roadsides in Vermont in ever increasing numbers. I just wish some of your
"graffiti artists" would migrate with them to make them more colorful. I
love the "graffiti" that they paint and get angry whenever I see a program
on TV about how they are persecuted by folks in the city. These people are
real artists and do what they can to make things like dull train cars and
plywood temporary walls more attractive. There, that's my rant for the
day, week, month, whatever. Ruth
At 1:47 PM -0500 1/28/03, Ken Follett wrote:
Has something happened to the cast stone industry, or is it just in New York?
A lot has happened to the cast stone industry... mostly it is driven by who
pays for it (the market) and what those who pay want done in respect of how
much they want to pay. There is an industry association and they do
technical research and issue publications and hold conferences.
The big money in cast stone (concrete castings) though I think is in
concrete pipe. Concrete pipe leads to capital that can in turn be invested
in aesthetic work, and so often you have firms that actually know a lot
about concrete pipe who decide to venture into aesthetic work as a market
niche. They may know about concrete pipe, but they know less about
aesthetics, and when they venture into histo presto they may know even
less. If you look at the surface area of a concrete pipe you may notice
that it is not exactly exciting stuff.
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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 08:58:14 -0800
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I don't think socks with fish woven into them are all THAT weird, whether
in court or not. As to fish without socks, we don't do that here in
southern VTbut they may do it up in the Northeast Kingdom where I've heard
there are some VERY strange folk.
We did have one old gent when I was a kid who never wore anything on his
feet. I've seen him at Town Meeting barefoot and folks used to come for
miles around to see him out gathering sap in the snow barefoot. But he was
unusual. Ruth
At 7:31 AM -0600 1/28/03, Score, Robert wrote:
I heard that they just wear the fish on there feet without any socks in
Vermont, Is this true Ruth?
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In a message dated 1/27/2003 5:21:44 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
Do tell, how did this name come about? Ruth
Ruth,
Do you, at this late date, think I make this shit up? The alleged
gentleman wore socks with images of tropical fish woven into them in a
court of law in the State of New York. I observed this with my own eyes,
and it was subsequently confirmed by more than one member of the bar. I
believe, but am not certain that, he wore these socks on the witness stand.
Ralph
PS-- Can it be that people don't wear fish socks in Vermont?
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Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: Let SheeHee Who Is Without Sin....
>your 20th
>Anniversary Mac:
umm, what's MAC ?
and how come we can have stuff like sheehee (you ARE all aware of what that
is, right?) in the subject lines, but no !^&^%ing cussing is allowed? I
thought this was the new "family list" for histo-presto people......
deb
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> like sheehee (you ARE all aware of what that
> is, right?)
Well, I am moving to Idaho soon so I'll ask.
Mark
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In a message dated 1/29/03 9:12:18 PM, [log in to unmask] writes:
> sheehee (you ARE all aware of what that is, right?) in the subject lines,
> but no !^&^%ing cussing is allowed?
SheeHee is the new, socio-politically correct gender-neutral pronoun.
Endorsed by Art Linkletter and the League of Nations.
Yr friend, If Ken Has To Collect The Pure Water Runoff From His
Cleaning Jobs Before It Runs Into The Gutter, What About That Guy In The
Times This Week Who Blasts Off Historic Chewing Gum Spots With A
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">sheehee (you ARE all aware of what that is, right?) in the subject lines, but no !^&^%ing cussing is allowed? </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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SheeHee is the new, socio-politically correct gender-neutral pronoun. Endorsed by Art Linkletter and the League of Nations. <BR>
<BR>
Yr friend, If Ken Has To Collect The Pure Water Runoff From His Cleaning Jobs Before It Runs Into The Gutter, What About That Guy In The Times This Week Who Blasts Off Historic Chewing Gum Spots With A Secret-Formula Detergent? <BR>
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Any practioner out there >>personally<< familiar with a WPA photo project,
ca. 1940, which photographed every building in a town? New York City,
Springfield Mass and a few other American cities have surviving caches of
these photos. In NYC they are known as the "tax photos".
Christopher
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0">Any practioner out there >>personally<< familiar with a WPA photo project, ca. 1940, which photographed every building in a town? New York City, Springfield Mass and a few other American cities have surviving caches of these photos. In NYC they are known as the "tax photos".<BR>
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Christopher</FONT></HTML>
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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 22:41:51 EST
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In a message dated 1/29/03 10:01:58 AM Eastern Standard Time,
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> What a thought for the morning?! To slam together visions of the DAR
> and the current Ladies of the NPS!
Yikes. the "Ladies" of fame of which you speak are likely the Mount Vernon
Ladies Association and Pamela Cunningham c.1850s; Without whom the "Laddies"
might not have discovered a lucrative niche in the "history trade" - taken
over the field - and relegated those "Ladies" to the docent chair.
Signed,
Not D.A.R.
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">What a thought for the morning?! To slam together visions of the DAR<BR>
and the current Ladies of the NPS!</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
<BR>
Yikes. the "Ladies" of fame of which you speak are likely the Mount Vernon Ladies Association and Pamela Cunningham c.1850s; Without whom the "Laddies" might not have discovered a lucrative niche in the "history trade" - taken over the field - and relegated those "Ladies" to the docent chair.<BR>
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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 22:45:34 EST
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In a message dated 1/29/2003 7:42:25 PM Pacific Standard Time,
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> Yikes. the "Ladies" of fame of which you speak are likely the Mount Vernon
> Ladies Association and Pamela Cunningham c.1850s; Without whom the
> "Laddies" might not have discovered a lucrative niche in the "history
> trade" - taken over the field - and relegated those "Ladies" to the docent
> chair.
>
> Signed,
> Not D.A.R.
>
No wasn't it Tolstoy who said: "Regard the society of women as a necessary
unpleasantness, and avoid it whenever possible."
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<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Yikes. the "Ladies" of fame of which you speak are likely the Mount Vernon Ladies Association and Pamela Cunningham c.1850s; Without whom the "Laddies" might not have discovered a lucrative niche in the "history trade" - taken over the field - and relegated those "Ladies" to the docent chair.<BR>
<BR>
Signed, <BR>
Not D.A.R.<BR>
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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 22:21:33 -0600
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Them be the first group of Preservation Babes of which I was thinkin'=20
alright!
-jc
On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, at 09:41 PM, Candice Brashears wrote:
> In a message dated 1/29/03 10:01:58 AM Eastern Standard Time,=20
> [log in to unmask] writes:
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>
> What a thought for the morning?!=A0 To slam together visions of the =
DAR
> and the current Ladies of the NPS!
>
>
>
> Yikes. the "Ladies" of fame of which you speak are likely the Mount=20
> Vernon Ladies Association and Pamela Cunningham c.1850s;=A0 Without =
whom=20
> the "Laddies" might not have discovered a lucrative niche in the=20
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Them be the first group of Preservation Babes of which I was thinkin'
alright! =20
-jc
On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, at 09:41 PM, Candice Brashears wrote:
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1/29/03 10:01:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask]
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</smaller></fontfamily>What a thought for the morning?!=A0 To slam
together visions of the DAR
and the current Ladies of the NPS!
Yikes. the "Ladies" of fame of which you speak are likely the Mount
Vernon Ladies Association and Pamela Cunningham c.1850s;=A0 Without whom
the "Laddies" might not have discovered a lucrative niche in the
"history trade" - taken over the field - and relegated those "Ladies"
to the docent chair.
Signed,
Not D.A.R.
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Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 07:46:31 -0500
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Deb Bledsoe
> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 7:44 PM
>=20
>=20
> >your 20th
> >Anniversary Mac:
>=20
>=20
> umm, what's MAC ?
Do you seriously think that a true Mac zealot is going to bite on such
an obvious troll?
> and how come we can have stuff like sheehee (you ARE all=20
> aware of what that is, right?) in the subject lines, but no=20
> !^&^%ing cussing is allowed? I thought this was the new=20
> "family list" for histo-presto people......
It's obvious to me that this is a real PC list....
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Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 08:15:08 -0500
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From: Rudy Christian <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Graffiti Improves the View (was the SheeHee thread)
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Ruth writes:
>I thought the big money was in the asthetically pleasing, ever present,
"Jersey barrier" which seems to have migrated north and now graces our
roadsides in Vermont in ever increasing numbers. I just wish some of
your
"graffiti artists" would migrate with them to make them more colorful.
I
love the "graffiti" that they paint and get angry whenever I see a
program
on TV about how they are persecuted by folks in the city. These people
are
real artists and do what they can to make things like dull train cars
and
plywood temporary walls more attractive. There, that's my rant for the
day, week, month, whatever. Ruth<
Well maybe in some cases, maybe in a lot of cases, it shows off how ugly
the city can be when people don't consider the view from the tram or
whatever as of any importance. Having just returned from a trip to
Germany, studying historic roof framing technique, I can tell you it's
one thing to see a fabulous piece of spray paint art on an industrial
grade visual barrier and completely another to see it on 500+ year old
stone work. What's beautiful is without doubt in the eye of the
beholder, and there is obviously a difference between what a Woodstock
vintage histo prestoid sees, and what a 21st century skinhead with a can
of spray paint does.
Rudy's rant of the morning.
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Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 09:29:04 EST
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From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Let SheeHee Who Is Without Sin....
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In a message dated 1/29/2003 2:23:21 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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> And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson....
>
Pam,
Not exactly what I meant. The mothers liked me more than their daughters,
but they didn't like me that much, either.
Ralph
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/29/2003 2:23:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson....</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Pam,<BR>
<BR>
Not exactly what I meant. The mothers liked me more than their daughters, but they didn't like me <U>that</U> much, either.<BR>
<BR>
Ralph</FONT></HTML>
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Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 09:31:31 EST
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Subject: Re: or, 1.5 cents a word....
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In a message dated 1/29/2003 2:54:18 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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> Please contact me if you are not interested and let me know why.
>
Dilligaf. HTH.
Ralph
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/29/2003 2:54:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
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<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>Candice,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>Ms. Cunningham sounded like a force to be reckoned with:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">"If the men of America have seen fit to allow the home of its most respected hero to go to ruin, why can't the women of America band together to save it?"</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">"Ladies, the home of Washington is in your charge - see to it that you keep it the home of Washington. Let no irreverent hand change it; no vandal hands desecrate it with the fingers of progress. Those who go to the home in which he lived and died wish to see in what he lived and died."</SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><EM></EM></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">I'd be willing to bet that no one could have relegated her to the docent chair. When I was living in Annapolis, one of my neighbors mother was a current Mount Vernon Regent. She was, by all accounts truly "formidable", and extremely adept at keeping both ladies and "laddies" whipped into shape.</SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">BTW, I was cleaning out a filing cabinet a couple of weeks ago and found my DAR certificate. (My mother made me join when I was in high school). I was thoroughly mortified at the time, and told her that I took it to apply the the next revolution. Anybody remember the Jefferson Airplane's "Volunteers of America"?</SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Candice Brashears</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> 1/29/2003 5:41:51 PM </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Progress of the Ladies</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT size=2><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">In a message dated 1/29/03 10:01:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR><BR><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" TYPE="CITE">What a thought for the morning?! To slam together visions of the DAR<BR>and the current Ladies of the NPS!</BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>Yikes. the "Ladies" of fame of which you speak are likely the Mount Vernon Ladies Association and Pamela Cunningham c.1850s; Without whom the "Laddies" might not have discovered a lucrative niche in the "history trade" - taken over the field - and relegated those "Ladies" to the docent chair.<BR><BR>Signed, <BR>Not D.A.R.<BR></FONT></FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: or, 1.5 cents a word....
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In a message dated 1/29/2003 3:48:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask]
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> Mogambi Twybil
I'd been wondering where you were lately, Bwana. Our regards to Jane and
Cheetah.
Ralph
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<BR>
I'd been wondering where you were lately, Bwana. Our regards to Jane and Cheetah.<BR>
<BR>
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From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Progress of the Ladies
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In a message dated 1/29/2003 3:57:47 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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> A couple men are on the invite list, but they rarely
> come; it really is just us Ladies.
>
What a surprise.
Ralph
These words at 1.5 cents per really add up, don't they?
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/29/2003 3:57:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">A couple men are on the invite list, but they rarely<BR>
come; it really is just us Ladies.<BR>
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<BR>
What a surprise.<BR>
<BR>
Ralph<BR>
<BR>
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Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 09:42:59 EST
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From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Thanks everybody, Peter took off four minutes ago...
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In a message dated 1/29/2003 5:56:35 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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> PS he left with $1480 in his pocket, or at least his debit card
Better his debit card than yours.
Ralph
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/29/2003 5:56:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0">PS he left with $1480 in his pocket, or at least his debit card</BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
Better his debit card than yours.<BR>
<BR>
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Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 09:46:46 EST
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From: Candice Brashears <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: WPA photos "every building in your town" ca. 1940...
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In a message dated 1/29/03 10:33:50 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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> Any practioner out there >>personally<< familiar with a WPA photo project,
> ca. 1940, which photographed every building in a town? New York City,
> Springfield Mass and a few other American cities have surviving caches of
> these photos. In NYC they are known as the "tax photos".
>
> Christopher
Not so sure "every" building was photographed, but quite a number of historic
buildings were photo'd in CT; actually a program surprizingly similar to what
the Colonial Dames did in the 1920s-30s. The WPA program is also similar to
HABS. HABS/HAER is digitally accessible at www.loc.gov (Library of Congress)
in the American Memory archives, at least in part. CTs WPA project files are
located at the CT State Library in Hartford.
Candy B
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/29/03 10:33:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Any practioner out there >>personally<< familiar with a WPA photo project, ca. 1940, which photographed every building in a town? New York City, Springfield Mass and a few other American cities have surviving caches of these photos. In NYC they are known as the "tax photos".<BR>
<BR>
Christopher</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0"> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
Not so sure "every" building was photographed, but quite a number of historic buildings were photo'd in CT; actually a program surprizingly similar to what the Colonial Dames did in the 1920s-30s. The WPA program is also similar to HABS. HABS/HAER is digitally accessible at www.loc.gov (Library of Congress) in the American Memory archives, at least in part. CTs WPA project files are located at the CT State Library in Hartford.<BR>
<BR>
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Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 09:51:37 EST
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From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Let SheeHee Who Is Without Sin....
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In a message dated 1/29/2003 7:18:32 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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> These people are real artists and do what they can to make things like dull
> train cars and plywood temporary walls more attractive.
Ralph,
Yeah, and you probably think all those leaves are pretty in the fall too.
Having been here in lovely NY when the subway cars were all graffitied, and
seeing graffiti spread to freeway bridges in LA, it ain't so attractive.
Kinda like dogs peeing on everything, only you can see it forever.
Ralph
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/29/2003 7:18:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">These people are real artists and do what they can to make things like dull train cars and plywood temporary walls more attractive.</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
<BR>
Ralph,<BR>
<BR>
Yeah, and you probably think all those leaves are pretty in the fall too.<BR>
<BR>
Having been here in lovely NY when the subway cars were all graffitied, and seeing graffiti spread to freeway bridges in LA, it ain't so attractive. Kinda like dogs peeing on everything, only you can see it forever.<BR>
<BR>
Ralph</FONT></HTML>
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Subject: Re: Let SheeHee Who Is Without Sin....
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In a message dated 1/29/2003 9:12:18 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
> umm, what's MAC ?
>
> and how come we can have stuff like sheehee (you ARE all aware of what that
> is, right?)
Jeez, Louise (started out as Jezz Lousie).
In that context, Mac referred to the computers made by Apple of Cupertino,
CA. Talk about PC-centrics. And no, I am not aware of sheehee; would the
distinguished gentlelady from OH10 and soon to be of the Garden State kindly
enlighten those of us who are unaware?
Ralph
PS--I was wondering what happened to you, on-line wise, too. Glad to see you
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<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">umm, what's MAC ?<BR>
<BR>
and how come we can have stuff like sheehee (you ARE all aware of what that<BR>
is, right?)</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
<BR>
Jeez, Louise (started out as Jezz Lousie).<BR>
<BR>
In that context, Mac referred to the computers made by Apple of Cupertino, CA. Talk about PC-centrics. And no, I am not aware of sheehee; would the distinguished gentlelady from OH10 and soon to be of the Garden State kindly enlighten those of us who are unaware?<BR>
<BR>
Ralph<BR>
<BR>
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Subject: Re: Thanks everybody, Peter took off four minutes ago...
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w/ $ 1,480 he can't afford to come back...
Met History wrote:
> ...for New Zealand, the country so beautiful they say ... you never
> come back.
>
> PS he left with $1480 in his pocket, or at least his debit card.
> Christopher
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w/ $ 1,480 he can't afford to come back...
<p>Met History wrote:
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New Zealand, the country so beautiful they say ... you never come back.</font></font>
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Formidable - is what I have heard. Of course, there have been many since all
over the US; being from New England myself, I am mostly familiar with how
professionalism evolved in these here parts (more private than governmental;
more localized than regional - although SPNEA did make the attempt
c.1910-1950s)
Jefferson Airplane: can't remember at the moment, but if you hum a few bars
I'll bet it will strike a bell.
cb
In a message dated 1/30/03 9:32:39 AM Eastern Standard Time,
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> She was, by all accounts truly "formidable", and extremely adept at keeping
> both ladies and "laddies" whipped into shape.
>
> BTW, I was cleaning out a filing cabinet a couple of weeks ago and found my
> DAR certificate. (My mother made me join when I was in high school). I
> was thoroughly mortified at the time, and told her that I took it to apply
> the the next revolution. Anybody remember the Jefferson Airplane's
> "Volunteers of America"?
>
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Formidable - is what I have heard. Of course, there have been many since all over the US; being from New England myself, I am mostly familiar with how professionalism evolved in these here parts (more private than governmental; more localized than regional - although SPNEA did make the attempt c.1910-1950s)<BR>
<BR>
Jefferson Airplane: can't remember at the moment, but if you hum a few bars I'll bet it will strike a bell. <BR>
<BR>
cb<BR>
<BR>
In a message dated 1/30/03 9:32:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">She was, by all accounts truly "formidable", and extremely adept at keeping both ladies and "laddies" whipped into shape.<BR>
<BR>
BTW, I was cleaning out a filing cabinet a couple of weeks ago and found my DAR certificate. (My mother made me join when I was in high school). I was thoroughly mortified at the time, and told her that I took it to apply the the next revolution. Anybody remember the Jefferson Airplane's "Volunteers of America"?<BR>
</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
<BR>
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Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:01:42 -0500
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Maybe Ilene can provide more details on this -- the house was across the
street from her.
Ann Arbor News article:
http://www.mlive.com/news/aanews/index.ssf?/xml/story.ssf/html_standard.xsl?/base/news-3/1043768448210440.xml
Larry
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Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 10:16:24 -0600
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Not merely Cupertio, Ralph, but
1 Infinite Loop
What an address!
(And me wondering if my mail would reach me if it were sent to the=20
Stately sounding hamlet of St. Paul.)
-jc
On Thursday, January 30, 2003, at 09:00 AM, Ralph Walter wrote:
> In a message dated 1/29/2003 9:12:18 PM Eastern Standard Time,=20
> [log in to unmask] writes:
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> umm, what's=A0 MAC ?
>
> and how come we can have stuff like sheehee (you ARE all aware of what=20=
> that
> is, right?)
>
>
>
> Jeez, Louise (started out as Jezz Lousie).
>
> In that context, Mac referred to the computers made by Apple of=20
> Cupertino, CA.=A0 Talk about PC-centrics.=A0 And no, I am not aware of=20=
> sheehee; would the distinguished gentlelady from OH10 and soon to be=20=
> of the Garden State kindly enlighten those of us who are unaware?
>
> Ralph
>
> PS--I was wondering what happened to you, on-line wise, too.=A0 Glad =
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Not merely Cupertio, Ralph, but=20
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What an address!
(And me wondering if my mail would reach me if it were sent to the
Stately sounding hamlet of St. Paul.)
-jc
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On Thursday, January 30, 2003, at 09:00 AM, Ralph Walter wrote:
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</smaller></fontfamily>umm, what's=A0 MAC ?
and how come we can have stuff like sheehee (you ARE all aware of what
that
is, right?)
Jeez, Louise (started out as Jezz Lousie).
In that context, Mac referred to the computers made by Apple of
Cupertino, CA.=A0 Talk about PC-centrics.=A0 And no, I am not aware of
sheehee; would the distinguished gentlelady from OH10 and soon to be
of the Garden State kindly enlighten those of us who are unaware?
Ralph
PS--I was wondering what happened to you, on-line wise, too.=A0 Glad to
see you back.
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Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 12:14:26 EST
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In a message dated 1/29/2003 10:16:33 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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> What About That Guy In The Times This Week Who Blasts Off Historic Chewing
> Gum Spots With A Secret-Formula Detergent?
>
All that stuff is environmentally friendly, good for the ecostructure, and
all that other shit. Dubya and Cheney drink it every morning for breakfast.
Rev. Jim (Jones, not Rhodes)
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/29/2003 10:16:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0">What About That Guy In The Times This Week Who Blasts Off Historic Chewing Gum Spots With A Secret-Formula Detergent? <BR>
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All that stuff is environmentally friendly, good for the ecostructure, and all that other shit. Dubya and Cheney drink it every morning for breakfast.<BR>
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Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 12:17:16 EST
Reply-To: "\"Let us not speak foul in folly!\" - ]<en Phollit"
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Subject: Re: WPA photos "every building in your town" ca. 1940...
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They have them in Jersey City, also, where they are also called tax photos.
It is my impression/vague recollection that they were made in 1937 or 38.
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">They have them in Jersey City, also, where they are also called tax photos. It is my impression/vague recollection that they were made in 1937 or 38.<BR>
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Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 12:20:04 EST
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Subject: Re: Progress of the Ladies
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In a message dated 1/29/2003 10:42:25 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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> Yikes. the "Ladies" of fame of which you speak are likely the Mount Vernon
> Ladies Association and Pamela Cunningham c.1850s; Without whom the
> "Laddies" might not have discovered a lucrative niche in the "history
> trade" - taken over the field - and relegated those "Ladies" to the docent
> chair.
>
Bitch, bitch bitch. Meet up with Pyrate and the Kermits sometime, and you'll
wish you were in the docent chair.
Mr. Sensitive
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/29/2003 10:42:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Yikes. the "Ladies" of fame of which you speak are likely the Mount Vernon Ladies Association and Pamela Cunningham c.1850s; Without whom the "Laddies" might not have discovered a lucrative niche in the "history trade" - taken over the field - and relegated those "Ladies" to the docent chair.<BR>
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Bitch, bitch bitch. Meet up with Pyrate and the Kermits sometime, and you'll wish you were in the docent chair.<BR>
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Subject: Re: Progress of the Ladies
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In a message dated 1/29/2003 10:45:59 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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> No wasn't it Tolstoy who said: "Regard the society of women as a necessary
> unpleasantness, and avoid it whenever possible."
Oh, yeth.
Corn Holer
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">No wasn't it Tolstoy who said: "Regard the society of women as a necessary unpleasantness, and avoid it whenever possible." </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
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Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 12:22:30 -0500
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Ahh, Volunteers...
I like the version from the original Woodstock Album. As I recall it starts
out with an intro (from Grace Slick?) to the effect of "You've heard the
groovy music now it's time for Morning Maniac Music...yeah, it's a new
dawn..."
I gather they were the first band on that day and opened their set with
"Volunteers."
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Anybody remember the Jefferson Airplane's "Volunteers of America"?
signed,
NPS and DAR
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2003 9:27=20
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Anybody remember the Jefferson Airplane's "Volunteers of=20
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Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 12:36:40 -0500
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I like the version from the original Woodstock Album. As I recall it starts
out with an intro (from Grace Slick?) something like "You've heard the
groovy music now it's time for morning maniac music...yeah, it's a new
dawn..."
I gather they were the first band on that day and opened their set with
"Volunteers."
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Anybody remember the Jefferson Airplane's "Volunteers of America"?
signed,
NPS and DAR
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Larry,
Unpleasant.
"Firefighters fought bitter cold and outdated construction techniques for
several hours before the late-morning fire was called under control..."
Outdated construction techniques... what an odd phrase. I assume the outdated
construction technique was the stupid welder removing the fire escape that
set the building on fire.
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Unpleasant. <BR>
<BR>
"Firefighters fought bitter cold and outdated construction techniques for several hours before the late-morning fire was called under control..." Outdated construction techniques... what an odd phrase. I assume the outdated construction technique was the stupid welder removing the fire escape that set the building on fire.<BR>
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the country so beautiful they say ... you never come back.
Sharpshooter,
Request pictures w/ the e-mail, please.
Same reason I avoid going back to Ithaca. Beautiful must always be some other
place that we do not want to return from.
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Sharpshooter,<BR>
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Request pictures w/ the e-mail, please. <BR>
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Same reason I avoid going back to Ithaca. Beautiful must always be some other place that we do not want to return from.<BR>
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What About That Guy In The Times This Week Who Blasts Off Historic Chewing
Gum Spots With A Secret-Formula Detergent?
If he keeps getting enough press exposure then he will get spotted and tagged
by the spirit of DEP and he will also need to suck up his dirty water before
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If he keeps getting enough press exposure then he will get spotted and tagged by the spirit of DEP and he will also need to suck up his dirty water before it runs off.<BR>
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SheeHee is the new, socio-politically correct gender-neutral pronoun.
Endorsed by Art Linkletter and the League of Nations.
Sharpshooter: Art Linkletter... hmmm... I thought it had to do with all the
special favor's ads in the Village Voice. No room for PeeWee Herman, though.
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relegated those "Ladies" to the docent chair.
Crass capitalist commercialism -- I hope the D.A.R. ladies come through so we
can actually make the needed repairs on one of our "museum" projects. All
hail the D.A.R.! I hope they have some idea what they are looking at, on
their upcomming progress tour, when they see all the holes that we have left
in the wall and that they do not jump to the conclusion that we are
attempting to turn the mansion into a bath house.
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</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Crass capitalist commercialism -- I hope the D.A.R. ladies come through so we can actually make the needed repairs on one of our "museum" projects. All hail the D.A.R.! I hope they have some idea what they are looking at, on their upcomming progress tour, when they see all the holes that we have left in the wall and that they do not jump to the conclusion that we are attempting to turn the mansion into a bath house.<BR>
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Understand that this is my new neighborhood, that my 1835 house is
across a very narrow street, and that I watched the entire process from
the sidewalk and then from inside my house. Today they are still
removing salvageable stuff at the same time they are installing new
trusses on the fire-damaged rear wing. Tenants will be back in their
apartments within a month!!! I'm not sure what they'll do with the
historic wallpaper and warped floors... Scary!
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My mother made me join when I was in high school...
Lisa,
LOL! Cripes, all I had to avoid was being inducted into the John Birch
Society, as per the inclination of my stepfather, and the draft as per the
inclination of my Uncle Sam.
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I watched the entire process from the sidewalk and then from inside my house.
Ilene,
Not very pleasant at all. Fire is not nice. Neither is nice it to have a mess
quite so close. Please keep us posted.
I was reading this morning on the subway about Aldous Huxley's reaction to
when his house burnt down with his accumulated life's work inside. The fire
fighters had to restrain him from running in to save his manuscripts... and
then later he made a front by telling the press that it relieved him to have
a blank slate with which to start over.
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT COLOR="#0000ff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">I watched the entire process from the sidewalk and then from inside my house. </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
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Not very pleasant at all. Fire is not nice. Neither is nice it to have a mess quite so close. Please keep us posted.<BR>
<BR>
I was reading this morning on the subway about Aldous Huxley's reaction to when his house burnt down with his accumulated life's work inside. The fire fighters had to restrain him from running in to save his manuscripts... and then later he made a front by telling the press that it relieved him to have a blank slate with which to start over.<BR>
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love the "graffiti" that they paint and get angry whenever
I'm not ranting... I was attending a little histo presto social educational
session at one of our more illustrious historic houses in NYC. We were all
huddled in a cozy brick basement kitchen with chairs and slides, warm on a
cold night. One of the guest speakers, who turned out to be a friend of my
famous artist friend, gave a presentation on his documentary study of
graffitti art in the 70's - 80's, when it was REALLY blooming, particularly
as it was practiced in the South Bronx. He was approaching the aesthetic from
the grassroot social-art perspective (an urban voice fighting for survival),
as well as the historical context -- a social art movement no longer active.
The cultivated Greenwich Village dames present, who are forever dealing with
their histo presto stoops getting tagged, wanted to lynch him then and there.
A few things have changed in NYC -- Greenwich Village is where wealthy
non-bohemians live, and the graffiti is not nearly as spontaneously
interesting as it used to be.
Transit installed car scrubbers to automate the graffiti removal, for one
thing, and the business of anti-graffiti coatings has boomed. Now where there
is graffiti it tends to be where there is so much poverty that nobody would
ever think to remove it (particularly the memorials to kids that died from
drugs or gang violence), or it occurs in places where it is encouraged.
Across from our lot in Brooklyn the bus company has the entire wall, say 20'
x 100' painted with an incredibly active mural... a few years ago they had it
painted out and the original artists return and re-paint the wall.
Now, this is hot & trendy Williamsburg, where all the young wannabe
"artistes" of the city are congregating (what used to be Greenwich Village)
and nearby to the prospersous Brooklyn Brewery. Art rules. It also subdues
and forces out the natives, bohemian & otherwise, that can no longer afford
the escalating rents. MFA land is what we get, probably not such a bad thing,
excepting for the facade of "deep meaning" it imparts to a complex community
of cultures overlaid on cultures, and all because of the technlogical
proximity of a subway stop. Not too many years back people were still getting
shot around here and now we have tourists looking for Thai food.
The best graffiti to see for NYC may be in the movies, unless one is inclined
to explore the outer boroughs... so in Vermont the viewing for graffiti may
be a whole lot better than it is here.
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I'm not ranting... I was attending a little histo presto social educational session at one of our more illustrious historic houses in NYC. We were all huddled in a cozy brick basement kitchen with chairs and slides, warm on a cold night. One of the guest speakers, who turned out to be a friend of my famous artist friend, gave a presentation on his documentary study of graffitti art in the 70's - 80's, when it was REALLY blooming, particularly as it was practiced in the South Bronx. He was approaching the aesthetic from the grassroot social-art perspective (an urban voice fighting for survival), as well as the historical context -- a social art movement no longer active. The cultivated Greenwich Village dames present, who are forever dealing with their histo presto stoops getting tagged, wanted to lynch him then and there. A few things have changed in NYC -- Greenwich Village is where wealthy non-bohemians live, and the graffiti is not nearly as spontaneously interesting as it used to be. <BR>
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Transit installed car scrubbers to automate the graffiti removal, for one thing, and the business of anti-graffiti coatings has boomed. Now where there is graffiti it tends to be where there is so much poverty that nobody would ever think to remove it (particularly the memorials to kids that died from drugs or gang violence), or it occurs in places where it is encouraged. Across from our lot in Brooklyn the bus company has the entire wall, say 20' x 100' painted with an incredibly active mural... a few years ago they had it painted out and the original artists return and re-paint the wall. <BR>
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Now, this is hot & trendy Williamsburg, where all the young wannabe "artistes" of the city are congregating (what used to be Greenwich Village) and nearby to the prospersous Brooklyn Brewery. Art rules. It also subdues and forces out the natives, bohemian & otherwise, that can no longer afford the escalating rents. MFA land is what we get, probably not such a bad thing, excepting for the facade of "deep meaning" it imparts to a complex community of cultures overlaid on cultures, and all because of the technlogical proximity of a subway stop. Not too many years back people were still getting shot around here and now we have tourists looking for Thai food.<BR>
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The best graffiti to see for NYC may be in the movies, unless one is inclined to explore the outer boroughs... so in Vermont the viewing for graffiti may be a whole lot better than it is here.<BR>
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> The best graffiti to see for NYC may be in the movies, unless one is
> inclined to explore the outer boroughs...
I know that growing up in the West I was led to believe (through the media)
that all subways had graffiti on the train cars. When in the DC area, I was
shocked that there wasn't any. This leads me to believe that the cars must
be stored somewhere at night where the artists cannot find them.
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">The best graffiti to see for NYC may be in the movies, unless one is inclined to explore the outer boroughs... </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
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I know that growing up in the West I was led to believe (through the media) that all subways had graffiti on the train cars. When in the DC area, I was shocked that there wasn't any. This leads me to believe that the cars must be stored somewhere at night where the artists cannot find them.<BR>
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A musician/composer tenant told me he lost all his manuscripts to water
damage. He was in shock that first day, but is probably just plain
angry by now, mostly because of the shoddy handling of the situation and
general poor maintenance, always using the cheapest labor to accomplish
the work. Hmmm.
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I watched the entire process from the sidewalk and then from
inside my house.=20
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Ilene,
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Not very pleasant at all. Fire is not nice. Neither is nice it
to have a mess quite so close. Please keep us posted.
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I was reading this morning on the subway about Aldous Huxley's
reaction to when his house burnt down with his accumulated life's work
inside. The fire fighters had to restrain him from running in to save
his manuscripts... and then later he made a front by telling the press
that it relieved him to have a blank slate with which to start over.
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In a message dated 1/29/2003 12:47:05 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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> Since when did the Second Empire begin (or otherwise exist) in the 1820's?
>
Are we talking just Empire style-- lots of Napoleonic bees and curves? 1820
should be about right on that.
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/29/2003 12:47:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0">Since when did the Second Empire begin (or otherwise exist) in the 1820's?<BR>
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Are we talking just Empire style-- lots of Napoleonic bees and curves? 1820 should be about right on that.<BR>
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Subject: Re: Progress of the Ladies
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In a message dated 1/30/2003 6:07:27 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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> >> Since when did the Second Empire begin (or otherwise exist) in the 1820's?
>>
>
>
> Are we talking just Empire style-- lots of Napoleonic bees and curves? 1820
> should be about right on that.
>
> -Heidi
Heidi,
Whoever it was (I'm now too old to remember so far back) specifically talked
about the 2nd Empire style, which is why I'm being such a snot about it.
1820's seems to me a little late for the first Empire, even, but I suppose
news traveled rather more slowly in the pre-internet days.
Just wait til the future Little Heidis ask you what kind of computer you had
when you were a little girl. I forgot-- you're so young, you probably DID
have one.
Ralph
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 1/30/2003 6:07:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Times New Roman" LANG="0">Since when did the Second Empire begin (or otherwise exist) in the 1820's?<BR>
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Are we talking just Empire style-- lots of Napoleonic bees and curves? 1820 should be about right on that.<BR>
<BR>
-Heidi</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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Heidi,<BR>
<BR>
Whoever it was (I'm now too old to remember so far back) specifically talked about the <U>2nd</U> Empire style, which is why I'm being such a snot about it. 1820's seems to me a little late for the first Empire, even, but I suppose news traveled rather more slowly in the pre-internet days.<BR>
<BR>
Just wait til the future Little Heidis ask you what kind of computer you had when you were a little girl. I forgot-- you're so young, you probably DID have one.<BR>
<BR>
Ralph<BR>
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In a message dated 1/30/2003 6:13:57 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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> Just wait til the future Little Heidis ask you what kind of computer you had
> when you were a little girl. I forgot-- you're so young, you probably DID
> have one.
>
It was the golden age of computers. Radio Shack TRS 80, Atari with Space
Invaders, programing in BASIC. I had my first computer at the end of high
school, thank you very much-- my mom said it was money well spent, since she
didn't feel it was necessary to help me type my papers anymore. (And just for
Dan...) it was a cute little Mac. Much more sensible machine than this PC
monster I have now.
And heck, I didn't even need to own a computer. I dated all the geeks in
college-- one gave me the password to the whole Penn State computer system
once. I remember kissing him by the romantic light of the amber screens in
the computer lab. And even with that, my GPA was still in the toilet. *sigh*
Those were the days.
-Heidi
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Just wait til the future Little Heidis ask you what kind of computer you had when you were a little girl. I forgot-- you're so young, you probably DID have one.<BR>
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It was the golden age of computers. Radio Shack TRS 80, Atari with Space Invaders, programing in BASIC. I had my first computer at the end of high school, thank you very much-- my mom said it was money well spent, since she didn't feel it was necessary to help me type my papers anymore. (And just for Dan...) it was a cute little Mac. Much more sensible machine than this PC monster I have now.<BR>
<BR>
And heck, I didn't even need to own a computer. I dated all the geeks in college-- one gave me the password to the whole Penn State computer system once. I remember kissing him by the romantic light of the amber screens in the computer lab. And even with that, my GPA was still in the toilet. *sigh*<BR>
<BR>
Those were the days.<BR>
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In a message dated 1/30/2003 6:28:27 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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> I remember kissing him by the romantic light of the amber screens in the
> computer lab. And even with that, my GPA was still in the toilet. *sigh*
>
Perhaps further study would have been wise.
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I remember kissing him by the romantic light of the amber screens in the computer lab. And even with that, my GPA was still in the toilet. *sigh*<BR>
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From: Candice Brashears <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: PCs & typewriters
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In a message dated 1/30/03 6:28:27 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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> It was the golden age of computers. Radio Shack TRS 80, Atari with Space
> Invaders, programing in BASIC. I had my first computer at the end of high
> school
When I was in my senior year of high school, my parents gave me a 1926 black
Underwood typewriter. Even though it was an old one (not I might say, given
because it was an antique) it worked pretty darn good. Electric typewriters
were few and far between - none at all in the school classroom - we all
learned on manuals ("Throw that carriage!") . The used Underwood was all
they could afford and I was not only appreciative, but delighted! to have my
very own typewriter. It served me well at the time, and I still have it.
It now serves me as a bookend and sits right near my PC, fax, scanner etc.
Candy
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">It was the golden age of computers. Radio Shack TRS 80, Atari with Space Invaders, programing in BASIC. I had my first computer at the end of high school</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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When I was in my senior year of high school, my parents gave me a 1926 black Underwood typewriter. Even though it was an old one (not I might say, given because it was an antique) it worked pretty darn good. Electric typewriters were few and far between - none at all in the school classroom - we all learned on manuals ("Throw that carriage!") . The used Underwood was all they could afford and I was not only appreciative, but delighted! to have my very own typewriter. It served me well at the time, and I still have it. It now serves me as a bookend and sits right near my PC, fax, scanner etc. <BR>
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In a message dated 1/30/2003 8:53:40 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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> When I was in my senior year of high school, my parents gave me a 1926 black
> Underwood typewriter. Even though it was an old one (not I might say,
> given because it was an antique) it worked pretty darn good. Electric
> typewriters were few and far between - none at all in the school classroom
> - we all learned on manuals ("Throw that carriage!") . The used Underwood
> was all they could afford and I was not only appreciative, but delighted!
> to have my very own typewriter. It served me well at the time, and I
> still have it. It now serves me as a bookend and sits right near my PC,
> fax, scanner etc.
>
As far as I'm concerned, the best thing about computers is that they function
as an editing typewriter.
Ralph
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">When I was in my senior year of high school, my parents gave me a 1926 black Underwood typewriter. Even though it was an old one (not I might say, given because it was an antique) it worked pretty darn good. Electric typewriters were few and far between - none at all in the school classroom - we all learned on manuals ("Throw that carriage!") . The used Underwood was all they could afford and I was not only appreciative, but delighted! to have my very own typewriter. It served me well at the time, and I still have it. It now serves me as a bookend and sits right near my PC, fax, scanner etc. <BR>
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Subject: Re: Historic Ann Arbor mansion burns
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> A musician/composer tenant told me he lost all his manuscripts to water
> damage.
Dan thinks it serves herhim right, heeshee should have had a Mac.
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</FONT><FONT COLOR="#0000ff" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">A musician/composer tenant told me he lost all his manuscripts to water damage.</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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Subject: Re: Historic Ann Arbor mansion burns
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In a message dated 1/30/2003 10:24:16 PM Eastern Standard Time,
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> >> A musician/composer tenant told me he lost all his manuscripts to water
>> damage.
>
> Dan thinks it serves herhim right, heeshee should have had a Mac.
Hell, yes. Everybody knows Macs are watertight, impact resistant, and
everything good that PC's aren't.
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">A musician/composer tenant told me he lost all his manuscripts to water damage.</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Hell, yes. Everybody knows Macs are watertight, impact resistant, and everything good that PC's aren't. <BR>
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Subject: Re: Let SheeHee Who Is Without Sin.... be a Ladie and Progress
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----- Original Message -----=20
From: Ralph Walter=20
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: Let SheeHee Who Is Without Sin....
In that context, Mac referred to the computers made by Apple of =
Cupertino, CA. Talk about PC-centrics. And no, I am not aware of =
sheehee; would the distinguished gentlelady from OH10 and soon to be of =
the Garden State kindly enlighten=20
well, I thought there was a message that contained "MAC" as some sort of =
acronym...
I guess I dreamed it? =20
::deb searches archive::
Ok here it was....
>> "What means this HTH? No doubt some secret MAC club equivalent"<<
now, that is not exactly clear, as to being in reference to _Macs_ , so =
please don't think I have any animosity or bias against Macs or Mac =
users -- quite the contrary; I just didn't get it....
*****
ralph, obviously you have not done your research online before allowing =
your children to venture out into the wild wild west of the information =
highway.... or you'd know sheehees are men endowed with womanly =
attributes, or maybe women endowed with manly attributes, I'm not =
entirely sure; it just gets pretty crazy from there....
cruising around on porn sites and newsgroups was quite the eyepopper for =
me, but I figured if I were going to be able to talk to the young'uns =
about the subject at my advanced age, I'd better know from whence I =
spoke....
lisa, I thought my grandmother and great aunt would disown me when I =
declined to join DAR and Eastern Star... the ladies of the family go =
back, wayyyy back, on both sides of both sides, but that and $ .79 got =
me a cup of coffee in my advanced tomboy state as a Young Ladie trying =
to progress.... NAWIC brought me much further along in my formative =
years --
the geneology info was/is interesting though....
and I have been lurking in the corner, reading the copious mortar and =
lime messages from the archives when I have time, VALiantly struggling =
to master all the terms and projects out east here, so I won't sound =
like a complete ( !! ) rube when I speak with customers... out of my =
midwestern element, I've been feeling kinda shy and not much to say... =
specially about things like may december trans-hemisphere relationships, =
and red shoes, and la-la-la...
for once I've had to be serious and studious about the business, the =
Really Cool projects I'm having the opportunity to work on, and about =
the political efforts I am involved with ...
(places I hold dear, are under attack from all quarters these days, both =
in the political and private sectors)
ralph, here's hoping your medical situation goes well; keep us posted?
cp in bc, keep your chin up, don't let the bastards get you down...
pyrate, WHAT the heck are you doing wit dem bones? you're provoking =
savannah steve... but it sure sounds cool anyway... how many folks can =
say they see hoops and silver on their jobs??
everybody, keep dodging that falling limestone, or cows, or whatever =
your days bring you ;)
deborah, as I'm now known in NY, late of OH10, recently of brooklyn, and =
as ralph mentioned, soon to be living in the wilds of NJ
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<DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV><B>From:</B> <A [log in to unmask] =
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Walter</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:00 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: Let SheeHee Who Is Without Sin....</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 face=3DArial size=3D2 =
FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">In that context, Mac referred to the computers =
made by=20
Apple of Cupertino, CA. Talk about PC-centrics. And no, I =
am not=20
aware of sheehee; would the distinguished gentlelady from OH10 and =
soon to be=20
of the Garden State kindly enlighten=20
</FONT></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>well, I thought there was a message =
that contained=20
"MAC" as some sort of acronym...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I guess I dreamed it? =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>::deb searches archive::</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ok here it was....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>>> "What means this HTH? No doubt some secret MAC club=20
equivalent"<<</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>now, that is not exactly clear, as to being in =
reference to=20
_Macs_ , so please don't think I have any animosity or bias against Macs =
or Mac=20
users -- quite the contrary; I just didn't get it....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>*****</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>ralph, obviously you have not done your research =
online before=20
allowing your children to venture out into the wild wild west of the =
information=20
highway.... or you'd know sheehees are men endowed with =
womanly=20
attributes, or maybe women endowed with manly attributes, I'm not =
entirely sure;=20
it just gets pretty crazy from there....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>cruising around on porn sites and newsgroups was =
quite the=20
eyepopper for me, but I figured if I were going to be able to talk to =
the=20
young'uns about the subject at my advanced age, I'd better know from =
whence I=20
spoke....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>lisa, I thought my grandmother and great aunt would =
disown me=20
when I declined to join DAR and Eastern Star... the ladies of the =
family=20
go back, wayyyy back, on both sides of both sides, but that and $ .79 =
got me a=20
cup of coffee in my advanced tomboy state as a Young Ladie trying to=20
progress.... NAWIC brought me much further along in my formative years=20
--</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>the geneology info was/is interesting =
though....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>and I have been lurking in the corner, reading the =
copious=20
mortar and lime messages from the archives when I have time, VALiantly=20
struggling to master all the terms and projects out east here, so I =
won't sound=20
like a complete ( !! ) rube when I speak with customers... =
out of my=20
midwestern element, I've been feeling kinda shy and not much to say... =
specially=20
about things like may december trans-hemisphere relationships, and red =
shoes,=20
and la-la-la...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>for once I've had to be serious and studious about =
the=20
business, the Really Cool projects I'm having the opportunity to work =
on, and=20
about the political efforts I am involved with ...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>(places I hold dear, are under attack from all =
quarters these=20
days, both in the political and private sectors)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>ralph, here's hoping your medical situation goes =
well; keep us=20
posted?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>cp in bc, keep your chin up, don't let the bastards =
get you=20
down...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>pyrate, WHAT the heck are you doing wit dem bones? =
you're=20
provoking savannah steve... but it sure sounds cool anyway... how many =
folks can=20
say they see hoops and silver on their jobs??</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>everybody, keep dodging that falling limestone, or =
cows, or=20
whatever your days bring you ;)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>deborah, as I'm now known in NY, late of OH10, =
recently of=20
brooklyn, and as ralph mentioned, soon to be living in the wilds of =
NJ</FONT></DIV>
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Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 19:47:08 -0800
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Kinda makes me wish I was out there so I could join ya, even though I know
it's no warmer there than it is here. Ruth
At 3:54 PM -0500 1/29/03, Ilene R. Tyler wrote:
>We have a wonderful group, known locally as the "Preservation Ladies"
>for perceived historical reasons. We meet once a month for lunch and
>discussion. Most are graduates of the EMU HP program, plus a few like
>me who did not. We have become a force to be reckoned with once riled,
>and it's great networking with a bunch of people with preservation being
>the common thread. A couple men are on the invite list, but they rarely
>come; it really is just us Ladies.
>
>
>QUINN EVANS | ARCHITECTS
>
>Ilene R. Tyler, FAIA
>
>219 1/2 N. Main Street
>Ann Arbor, MI 48104
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Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 20:22:54 -0800
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Ralph, You apparently don't really like that sort of art. I find it
attractive and have found lots of uglier stuff hung on walls in fancy homes
and offices. Ruth
At 9:51 AM -0500 1/30/03, Ralph Walter wrote:
In a message dated 1/29/2003 7:18:32 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
These people are real artists and do what they can to make things like dull
train cars and plywood temporary walls more attractive.
Ralph,
Yeah, and you probably think all those leaves are pretty in the fall too.
Having been here in lovely NY when the subway cars were all graffitied, and
seeing graffiti spread to freeway bridges in LA, it ain't so attractive.
Kinda like dogs peeing on everything, only you can see it forever.
Ralph
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Sorry, I don't think I'd be much help, I'm still mourning the loss of the
Boston Braves.
Ruth, who thought for years she was named after Babe
At 2:53 PM -0500 1/29/03, Met History wrote:
Cross-posted from H-Urban...
From: Steven A Riess <[log in to unmask]>
I have been invited by a major publisher to edit a 600,000 word
Encyclopedia of Major League Baseball Teams. This two-volume reference
work is intended to fill a significant gap in the reference field. While
there are encyclopedias of individual baseball teams, this work will
consist of essays detailing the history of all the current thirty major
league teams. The intent is for the articles to be scholarly, analytical
narratives that go beyond the recounting of team glories year by year. My
aim is to have essays written that not only recount each team's annual
campaigns, their players, and managers, but also provide a social and
economic history of each club. I do not expect these to works of original
research. I'm pretty sure nearly everything one would need to fulfill the
assignment is available in secondary sources. I am looking for essays that
contextualize team histories in the broader picture of sport and the
development of their histories. I am looking for essays that not only
examine the teams' performance on the field, but off the field as well. The
essays will deal in depth with the teams as urban business enterprises that
deal with labor issues, local governments and politicians, and such major
economic matters as the construction of ballparks. Hence an essay on the
White Sox will examine Comiskey's development of his early ballparks, and
will also consider how current owners of the team secured public financing
of the ballpark. In fact, a major issue for the essays since the 1950s
would be the evolving relationship between teams and cities as owners moved
or threatened to move franchises to secure financial support from local
governments. I also hope contributors will consider the particularistic
relationship of a team to their hometowns.
This letter is being sent to baseball experts in NASSH, who comprise a
core, but certainly not all baseball scholars. While this project is
intellectually a feasible and significant project, there are practical
considerations. I am looking to you for some input as to viability. We
know there are a sufficient number of experts to undertake the project, but
there are practical considerations, namely time and money. I am
indicating below the approximate length of contributions as I envision
them, along with compensation. The compensation will include a stipend and
a copy of the two volume work (the encyclopedia will sell for $150 a
volume). The stipends vary depending on the length of the contribution.
Stipends for the longer entries are real money, however, the cash
compensation is certainly far below what each author's input should merit
if I had an unlimited budget. The publisher has budgeted $10,000 for the
thirty entries and $10,000 for visual materials. The author's sole
responsibility is to complete a first-rate essay. All editorial work,
including indexing will be done by the publisher. It would certainly be
possible for authors to split assignments, especially for teams like the
Braves that have moved a lot.
I am not asking anyone to commit themselves to the project, but frankly am
looking for interest or lack of interest. Please contact me if you are
potentially interested. Please contact me if you are not interested and let
me know why.
Steve Riess
Northeastern Illinois University
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Hard copy paper is what he lost. I don't know about his computer
preferences. I saw his old record album collection, still in its
cabinet. I told him to get those out and separated to make sure there
is no mold or sticking between the paper covers. Even though the place
is dry now, there is probaby so much moisture saturating anthing that
was in there during the firefighting, a more conservation/conservative
approach was my advice.
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A musician/composer tenant told me he lost all
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Properly configured, they would have put the fire out. What do you think
the Firewire port they invented is for?
_____________________________________________________
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Raleigh Historic heretics live on forever"
Districts Commission -- Elbert Hubbard
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Heidi Harendza wrote:
> And heck, I didn't even need to own a computer. I dated all the geeks
> in college-- one gave me the password to the whole Penn State computer
> system once. I remember kissing him by the romantic light of the amber
> screens in the computer lab. And even with that, my GPA was still in
> the toilet. *sigh*
>
> Those were the days.
>
> -Heidi
remember dealing with a prereq course in programming by visiting, late
one friday night, the comp lab w/ a case of coors, a bag of tacos and a
nickel bag of unnamed substance-
found a couple guys more than willing to write my program in cobalt????
who were a- appalled at the thought of someone like me sullying their
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more than happy to compete w/ each other to complete the assingment as
the guy who finsihed first got the baggie...
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<p>Heidi Harendza wrote:
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heck, I didn't even need to own a computer. I dated all the geeks in college--
one gave me the password to the whole Penn State computer system once.
I remember kissing him by the romantic light of the amber screens in the
computer lab. And even with that, my GPA was still in the toilet. *sigh*</font></font></font>
<p><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>Those were the
days.</font></font></font>
<p><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>-Heidi</font></font></font></blockquote>
remember dealing with a prereq course in programming by visiting, late
one friday night, the comp lab w/ a case of coors, a bag of tacos
and a nickel bag of unnamed substance-
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Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 10:37:00 -0600
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I think the fire fighting features were removed as part of the deal for
the loan from Evil Bill a few years back. That's where the rainbow
color went too. But I still say, "cut me, do I not bleed rainbow?"
My powerbook 3400 will soon join the Quadra, the Color Classic, the
Newton, the Classic II and the Original Mac 128 (upgraded to a 512KE),
in the basement. Its sad. Kind of like a family tomb.
I saw a Lisa in a pile of junk in a building in need of the special
ministering of those dudes in the white space suits. Now THAT's sad!
(That ought to separate the nubile youngsters from the old folks who
remember the band before Wings.)
-jc
On Friday, January 31, 2003, at 10:05 AM, Becker, Dan wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Let us not speak foul in folly!" - ]<en Phollit
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
>> Of Ralph Walter
>> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:28 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Historic Ann Arbor mansion burns
>>
>>
>>> In a message dated 1/30/2003 10:24:16 PM Eastern Standard
>>> Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
>>
>>
>>>> A musician/composer tenant told me he lost all his
>>>> manuscripts to water damage.
>>
>>
>>> Dan thinks it serves herhim right, heeshee should have had a Mac.
>>
>>
>> Hell, yes. Everybody knows Macs are watertight, impact
>> resistant, and everything good that PC's aren't.
>
> Properly configured, they would have put the fire out. What do you
> think
> the Firewire port they invented is for?
>
> _____________________________________________________
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> Raleigh Historic heretics live on forever"
> Districts Commission -- Elbert Hubbard
> [log in to unmask]
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I wondered if "The Cry" was specified so I looked up the full lyric (from
http://www.purelyrics.com/index.php ):
Jefferson Airplane
Volunteers (1969)
Volunteers
Look what's happening out in the streets
Got a revolution Got to revolution
Hey I'm dancing down the streets
Got a revolution Got to revolution
Ain't it amazing all the people I meet
Got a revolution Got to revolution
One generation got old
One generation got soul
This generation got no destination to hold
Pick up the cry
Hey now it's time for you and me
Got a revolution Got to revolution
Come on now we're marching to the sea
Got a revolution Got to revolution
Who will take it from you
We will and who are we
We are volunteers of America
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ONE GENERATION GOT OLD
ONE GENERATION GOT SOUL
THIS GENERATION GOT NO DESTINATION TO HOLD
PICK UP THE CRY
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One of them songs I knew...and did not know. Guess I was in the
basement at the time.
-jc
On Friday, January 31, 2003, at 03:43 PM, Bruce Marcham wrote:
> I wondered if "The Cry" was specified so I looked up the full lyric
> (from
> http://www.purelyrics.com/index.php ):
>
>
> Jefferson Airplane
> Volunteers (1969)
> Volunteers
>
> Look what's happening out in the streets
> Got a revolution Got to revolution
> Hey I'm dancing down the streets
> Got a revolution Got to revolution
> Ain't it amazing all the people I meet
> Got a revolution Got to revolution
> One generation got old
> One generation got soul
> This generation got no destination to hold
> Pick up the cry
> Hey now it's time for you and me
> Got a revolution Got to revolution
> Come on now we're marching to the sea
> Got a revolution Got to revolution
> Who will take it from you
> We will and who are we
> We are volunteers of America
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: J.A. Drew Diaz [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 9:32 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Progress of the Ladies
>
>
> ONE GENERATION GOT OLD
> ONE GENERATION GOT SOUL
> THIS GENERATION GOT NO DESTINATION TO HOLD
> PICK UP THE CRY
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Well folks, guess it's a song of the city, don't make no sense to me
aaatall. Ruth
At 5:05 PM -0600 1/31/03, John Callan wrote:
>One of them songs I knew...and did not know. Guess I was in the
>basement at the time.
>
>-jc
>
>On Friday, January 31, 2003, at 03:43 PM, Bruce Marcham wrote:
>
>> I wondered if "The Cry" was specified so I looked up the full lyric
>> (from
>> http://www.purelyrics.com/index.php ):
>>
>>
>> Jefferson Airplane
>> Volunteers (1969)
>> Volunteers
>>
>> Look what's happening out in the streets
>> Got a revolution Got to revolution
>> Hey I'm dancing down the streets
>> Got a revolution Got to revolution
>> Ain't it amazing all the people I meet
>> Got a revolution Got to revolution
>> One generation got old
>> One generation got soul
>> This generation got no destination to hold
>> Pick up the cry
>> Hey now it's time for you and me
>> Got a revolution Got to revolution
>> Come on now we're marching to the sea
>> Got a revolution Got to revolution
>> Who will take it from you
>> We will and who are we
>> We are volunteers of America
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: J.A. Drew Diaz [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 9:32 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Progress of the Ladies
>>
>>
>> ONE GENERATION GOT OLD
>> ONE GENERATION GOT SOUL
>> THIS GENERATION GOT NO DESTINATION TO HOLD
>> PICK UP THE CRY
>>
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