Hey Butch, if you have the time, I would be interested in hearing a side by side comparison of the two rigs. I have never had a chance to play with either one yet, so I have been basing my opinion on specs alone. Am I correct in my belief that the Icom will not copy SSB and CW, E G, no v f o? Thanks in advanced: John, who hopes to be able to aford one of those, some day! ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com