486 computer running Windows 95. There are 2 of them. Neither will display. I checked the monitor on another computer. It is fine. I tried another known monitor and the it didn't work. The pins are fine on both monitors. It seems unlikely that both video chips/cards would go at the same time. When I turn on the computer the monitor light goes amber briefly, then goes out. The computers were not hit by lightening or anything of that sort. Any ideas. -- Regards, Paul Ecclestone Success comes in cans, failure in can'ts Do you want to signoff PCBUILD or just change to Digest mode - visit our web site: http://freepctech.com/pcbuild.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 09:20:23 +0200 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Hass Shayto <[log in to unmask]> Subject: A Warping Screen MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Two months ago I *was* having this problem of a black screen at boot: Turning on the PC there is no display, just a black screen. The light on the monitor turns green for few seconds then orange. The computer though indicates it is booting normally. Upon a tech's advise, I changed the Rams & the video card and from there on no more black screen but .. I'm having a new problem now: While in windows, the screen warps suddendly (accompanied with a slight flicker) then goes back to normal after few seconds. Recently, it has been taking 1 to 2 minutes!! System: win98se, Pentium III 550 mmx, video [32 mb NVIDIA RIVA TNT2 Model 64] Board [intel Seattle II SE440BX-2], Board chipset [intel Natoma] BIOS [intel Phoenix 4S4EB2X0.86A.0022.P15 09/27/1999] Rams [2modules x 64mb SDRAM], Monitor [viewsonic E651] Settings [600x800, 16 bit color, refresh rate 'Optimal'] Frustrated and desperate for ideas? Hass Shayto Do you want to signoff PCBUILD or just change to Digest mode - visit our web site: http://freepctech.com/pcbuild.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 19:07:23 -0800 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Minson Ngo <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Problem w/ new SDRAM PC133 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Also the error might be the fact that the memory you are installing is PC133 memory. You motherboard supports a maximum of 4 sides of PC100 memory. Which means that it can only support two memory modules that are both double sided or one doublesided and two singles sided or any other combination. The motherboard probably supports even less sides if you install PC133 memory. Get a refund and get either a single sided or double sided memory. My advice is to go with the single sided one. This leaves room for more memory upgrades and single sided memory is better that double sided! Do you want to signoff PCBUILD or just change to Digest mode - visit our web site: http://freepctech.com/pcbuild.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 07:53:35 -0800 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Peter Shkabara <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Intel BIOS problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have several computers that were donated to the school. They have Intel RC440BX motherboards and are rack mounted - they were Internet servers. The problem is that they were set up for remote boot. I found how to disable the remote boot BIOS feature, but I can't get the boards to show me the regular BIOS setup utility. After POST I get a message that it is going into setup, but it just proceeds to boot instead. I looked for some jumpers or switches that force the board to bypass the setup option, but could not find one for this particular board. Anyone have some help for me? I already tried the "setup jumper" that is used for password recovery, but that still does not display the setup. Oh, I did update the BIOS to the latest available from the Intel site but that did not change anything. Thanks for any information. Peter ------------------ The NoSpin Group [log in to unmask] Do you want to signoff PCBUILD or just change to Digest mode - visit our web site: http://freepctech.com/pcbuild.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 12:30:09 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: "Richard F. Bolha" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: No video X-To: [log in to unmask] In-Reply-To: <3DFF3337.30865.1527B42@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi Paul If PCI video cards, I would try different PCI slots. Check your BIOS for setting regarding PCI or AGP cards. Will the hard drives boot elsewhere? Check your CMOS batteries. Power supply OK ? Good Luck! Richard F. Bolha On 17 Dec 2002, at 14:22, Paul Ecclestone wrote: > 486 computer running Windows 95. There are 2 of them. Neither will display. I > checked the monitor on another computer. It is fine. I tried another known monitor > and the it didn't work. The pins are fine on both monitors. It seems unlikely that both > video chips/cards would go at the same time. When I turn on the computer the > monitor light goes amber briefly, then goes out. The computers were not hit by > lightening or anything of that sort. Any ideas. > -- > Regards, > > Paul Ecclestone Do you want to signoff PCBUILD or just change to Digest mode - visit our web site: http://freepctech.com/pcbuild.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 12:42:25 -0800 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: James Maki <[log in to unmask]> Subject: USB Motherboard Connector In-Reply-To: <000201c2a4cf$5add8e10$6401a8c0@tbird1300> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am trying to connect the second USB connector on my motherboard with the USB ports on the front of a new case. I am not sure of the correct pin connections because the mb manual and case connectors are labeled differently. motherboard connector (2 rows of 4/5 pins) missing Ground SBD3- SBD3+ SVCC1 SVCC1 SBD2- SBD2+ SGND1 SGND1 case USB cables (two 4 pin connectors with separate 5th pin for ground): VCC VCC (Red) USB2- USB1- (White) USB2+ USB1+ (Green) GND GND (Black) gnd gnd (Black) Comparing the two, it seems that the motherboard has both negative connections on one side and both positive connections on the other. The case cables seem to have a positive and negative on each connection. This is how I think they should be connected: missing Ground black -- extra 5th pin ground from case cable (either connector) SBD3- SBD3+ white (1st connector) green (2nd connector) SVCC1 SVCC1 red (1st connector) red (2nd connector) SBD2- SBD2+ white (2nd connector) green (1st connector) SGND1 SGND1 black (1st connector) black (2nd connector) I would like another pair of eyes to look at my interpretation of the connections. It seems strange to cross the pins between the two connectors, but that was the only way I could make sense of the two sets of information. Thanks for you input, Jim [log in to unmask] Do you want to signoff PCBUILD or just change to Digest mode - visit our web site: http://freepctech.com/pcbuild.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 13:07:06 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Robert Lendrim <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Intel BIOS problem In-Reply-To: <000001c2a776$cfbb8df0$0100a8c0@zorro> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-4E0D592F; boundary="=======484C2E6B=======" --=======484C2E6B======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-4E0D592F; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Try this from the manual: F2 after POST & before OS At 12/19/02, you wrote: >I have several computers that were donated to the school. They have >Intel RC440BX motherboards and are rack mounted - they were Internet --=======484C2E6B=======-- Do you want to signoff PCBUILD or just change to Digest mode - visit our web site: http://freepctech.com/pcbuild.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 20:24:52 -0700 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Larry Fisk <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Intel BIOS problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Peter; You can download/ view the RC440BX manual here: ftp://download.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/rc440bx/71383201.pdf cut and paste the entire url if it is cutoff. Look on pages 48-49 of the .pdf file for the cmos jumper block location and settings. "normal" - jumper on pins 1-2 "configure" - jumper on pins 2-3 ...the board will automagically boot into setup "recovery" - jumper removed , and is used to recover a lost bios from a floppy. I have used recovery a few times, to bring "dead" intel boards back to life. <>< Larry Fisk Fisk Computers Fruitvale, Idaho ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Shkabara" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 8:53 AM Subject: [PCBUILD] Intel BIOS problem > I have several computers that were donated to the school. They have > Intel RC440BX motherboards and are rack mounted - they were Internet > servers. The problem is that they were set up for remote boot. I found > how to disable the remote boot BIOS feature, but I can't get the boards > to show me the regular BIOS setup utility. After POST I get a message > that it is going into setup, but it just proceeds to boot instead. Do you want to signoff PCBUILD or just change to Digest mode - visit our web site: http://freepctech.com/pcbuild.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 12:55:05 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Robert Lendrim <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Intel BIOS problem In-Reply-To: <000001c2a776$cfbb8df0$0100a8c0@zorro> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-4E0D592F; boundary="=======5BCCCF6=======" --=======5BCCCF6======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-4E0D592F; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Peter, Don't know if you already have this, but hope it might help. Merry Christmas, Bob ftp://download.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/rc440bx/71383201.pdf At 12/19/02, you wrote: >I have several computers that were donated to the school. They have >Intel RC440BX motherboards and are rack mounted - they were Internet >servers. The problem is that they were set up for remote boot. I found >how to disable the remote boot BIOS feature, but I can't get the boards >to show me the regular BIOS setup utility. After POST I get a message >that it is going into setup, but it just proceeds to boot instead. I >looked for some jumpers or switches that force the board to bypass the >setup option, but could not find one for this particular board. Anyone >have some help for me? I already tried the "setup jumper" that is used >for password recovery, but that still does not display the setup. Oh, I >did update the BIOS to the latest available from the Intel site but that >did not change anything. Thanks for any information. Peter >------------------ --=======5BCCCF6=======-- Do you want to signoff PCBUILD or just change to Digest mode - visit our web site: http://freepctech.com/pcbuild.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 15:59:08 +1300 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Ian <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: USB Motherboard Connector MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Jim. I can tell you how that setup goes: Sorry, I read your description and went crosseyed - I'll just tell you how I set mine up. There are a couple of different layouts for USB pins - I think you have the type that I'm familiar with, which goes as follows: Looking at the mobo with the USB pins on the end nearest you and the CPU furthest away, you're looking at two rows of pins. The row nearest you has 4 pins, the upper row has 5, with the extra pin to the right. The 'hot' pins are the two on your left, ie the leftmost of each of the two rows. The VCC end of each plug is the 'hot' lead. The fourth pin FROM the left, in each row, takes the separated ground plugs, I don't think it matters which one goes in which row. Damned if I know what the extra 5th pin in the upper row does - it's marked in the manual as 'USB' 'Over' 'Current'. Someone here might know. This setup is common on Gigabyte 7VKML and 7VKMLS mobos. But some versions have a different layout - the top row has one pin at the left, then a gap, then three pins. The lower row, nearest you, has the three pins to the left, then a gap, then a single pin - in other words, the reverse of the upper row. In each group of three pins, the 'hot' pin is the outermost, the separate one the ground. If you can't understand my description, mail me and I'll send you a coupla photos ffom the manual. Ian Porter Computer Guys Inc. Arrowtown New Zealand [log in to unmask] ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Maki" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 9:42 AM Subject: [PCBUILD] USB Motherboard Connector > I am trying to connect the second USB connector on my motherboard with the > USB ports on the front of a new case. I am not sure of the correct pin > connections because the mb manual and case connectors are labeled > differently. > > motherboard connector (2 rows of 4/5 pins) > missing Ground > SBD3- SBD3+ > SVCC1 SVCC1 > SBD2- SBD2+ > SGND1 SGND1 > > case USB cables (two 4 pin connectors with separate 5th pin for ground): > VCC VCC (Red) > USB2- USB1- (White) > USB2+ USB1+ (Green) > GND GND (Black) > > gnd gnd (Black) > > Comparing the two, it seems that the motherboard has both negative > connections on one side and both positive connections on the other. The case > cables seem to have a positive and negative on each connection. > > This is how I think they should be connected: > > missing Ground black -- > extra 5th pin ground > from case cable (either connector) > SBD3- SBD3+ white (1st connector) green (2nd connector) > SVCC1 SVCC1 red (1st connector) red (2nd connector) > SBD2- SBD2+ white (2nd connector) green (1st connector) > SGND1 SGND1 black (1st connector) black (2nd connector) > > I would like another pair of eyes to look at my interpretation of the > connections. It seems strange to cross the pins between the two connectors, > but that was the only way I could make sense of the two sets of information. > > Thanks for you input, > > Jim > [log in to unmask] > > Do you want to signoff PCBUILD or just change to > Digest mode - visit our web site: > http://freepctech.com/pcbuild.shtml Do you want to signoff PCBUILD or just change to Digest mode - visit our web site: http://freepctech.com/pcbuild.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 09:39:47 +0200 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Ahmad Hidmi <[log in to unmask]> Subject: AMD 1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1256" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello; Iwant to ask about the AMD duron 1200+ Pro if it is an 1200Mhz cpu or = not and if any body can help me finding the specifications of Elite = motherboard k7sem with AMD Duron 1200+ cpu onboard thanks The NOSPIN Group is now offering Free PC Tech support at our newest website: http://freepctech.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 11:43:15 EST Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Jay Merritt <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Network printer problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a small home network with 3 PC's (Win 98) and 1 Epson C80 printer. They are all connected with a 3Com Dual Analog Router (acts as a hub and also as dial-up Internet router). All PCs can see each other and share files via TCP/IP protocol. The printer has a generic print server installed on it. 2 of the PCs can print to it, while the 3rd cannot. When you try to print with the 3rd PC, the lights flash on the router and the print server, as if the signal is being sent by the PC and received by the print server, but it will always time out and eventually lock up the entire network. I have tried switching and reversing the PCs and print server cables where they plug into the router, all with the same results as listed above. I have tried setting the print server to a static IP and also a DHCP. Again no improvement. Also tried adding NetBEUI protocol. Any ideas? Thanks, Jay Merritt The NOSPIN Group is now offering Free PC Tech support at our newest website: http://freepctech.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 14:19:47 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Joe Lore <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: No video In-Reply-To: <3DFF3337.30865.1527B42@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi, based on the age of the computers, did you try changing the CMOS batteries? Also may try removing all cards, rubbing the contacts with a pencil eraseor and re inserting At 02:22 PM 12/17/2002 -0500, you wrote: >486 computer running Windows 95. There are 2 of them. Neither will display. I >checked the monitor on another computer. It is fine. I tried another known monitor >and the it didn't work. The pins are fine on both monitors. It seems unlikely that both >video chips/cards would go at the same time. When I turn on the computer the >monitor light goes amber briefly, then goes out. The computers were not hit by >lightening or anything of that sort. Any ideas. >-- >Regards, > >Paul Ecclestone > >Success comes in cans, failure in can'ts > > Do you want to signoff PCBUILD or just change to > Digest mode - visit our web site: > http://freepctech.com/pcbuild.shtml > God Bless America! Joe Lore MicroComputerCenter, Inc. 781-933-5530 / [log in to unmask] The NOSPIN Group is now offering Free PC Tech support at our newest website: http://freepctech.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 13:05:36 -0700 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: David May <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Problem w/ new SDRAM PC133 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DID NOT ADD PC133, ADDED PC100(SAME AS WHAT CAME OUT). BOTH THE OLD AND NEW ARE SINGLE -SIDED, TRIED RUNNING JUST THE NEW MODULE AND IT RAN FINE BUT WAS RECOGNIZED AS ONLY EXTENDED MEMORY. WHETHER I HAVE 64, 128, OR A COMBO THE PUTER SAYS I HAVE 640K CONVENTIONAL AND XMS AS 195,520K (WHEN BOTH ARE INSTALLED). ALSO RAN IN THE "O" AND "1" SLOTS AS SUGGESTED. ANY OTHER IDEAS? -----Original Message----- From: Minson Ngo <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> Date: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 11:57 PM Subject: Re: [PCBUILD] Problem w/ new SDRAM PC133 >Also the error might be the fact that the memory you are installing is PC133 >memory. You motherboard supports a maximum of 4 sides of PC100 memory. Which >means that it can only support two memory modules that are both double sided >or one doublesided and two singles sided or any other combination. The >motherboard probably supports even less sides if you install PC133 memory. >Get a refund and get either a single sided or double sided memory. My advice >is to go with the single sided one. This leaves room for more memory >upgrades and single sided memory is better that double sided! > > Do you want to signoff PCBUILD or just change to > Digest mode - visit our web site: > http://freepctech.com/pcbuild.shtml > > The NOSPIN Group is now offering Free PC Tech support at our newest website: http://freepctech.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 22:01:03 -0800 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: James Maki <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: USB Motherboard Connector In-Reply-To: <001301c2a7d3$c4df45e0$0201a8c0@Xtra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ian, Thanks for the reply, but I am not sure I am making headway. See my comments below to your suggestions. > -----Original Message----- > From: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Ian > Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 6:59 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [PCBUILD] USB Motherboard Connector > > > Hi Jim. I can tell you how that setup goes: > > Sorry, I read your description and went crosseyed - I'll just > tell you how I > set mine up. You're beginning to understand how I was feeling trying to match the cables with the motherboard info (BTW, it is an FIC AZ-11E) > There are a couple of different layouts for USB pins - I think > you have the > type that I'm familiar with, which goes as follows: I've checked several sites on the internet, but they never seem to have thes same type of arrangement the mb manual seems to indicate for my situation. I am trying to compare the mb manual with the marked case pin arrangement. > Looking at the mobo with the USB pins on the end nearest you and the CPU > furthest away, you're looking at two rows of pins. The row > nearest you has > 4 pins, the upper row has 5, with the extra pin to the right With the CPU away from me and the USB port closest to me, the two rows are laid out with 4 pins in the front and 5 in the back. The extra pin is in the second row left. Marked in the motherboard manual as: <-------------Back of case------------- ------------------CPU------------------ (USB connection - the "5th pin is marked as GND in the manual) "5th pin" SBD3+ SVCC1 SBD2+ SGND1 "No Pin SBD3- SVCC1 SBD2- SGND1 -------------"Bottom" of motherboard---- -------------Front of case-------------> > The 'hot' pins are the two on your left, ie the leftmost of each > of the two > rows. Would these be marked SBD3+ and SBD3- in the diagram above? That does seem to me, (but then I'm confused) to correspond to two "hot" pins. Wouldn't the hot pins be marked with + on the motherboard and cable? > The VCC end of each plug is the 'hot' lead. The pins marked SVCC1 are located on separate rows, 3rd pin from the right. > > The fourth pin FROM the left, in each row, takes the separated > ground plugs, > I don't think it matters which one goes in which row. > Damned if I know what the extra 5th pin in the upper row does - > it's marked > in the manual as 'USB' 'Over' 'Current'. Someone here might know. The extra pins just connect to the same ground and then to the "outside" edge of the USB receptacles. > This setup is common on Gigabyte 7VKML and 7VKMLS mobos. But > some versions > have a different layout - the top row has one pin at the left, then a gap, > then three pins. > > The lower row, nearest you, has the three pins to the left, then > a gap, then > a single pin - in other words, the reverse of the upper row. > > In each group of three pins, the 'hot' pin is the outermost, the separate > one the ground. > > If you can't understand my description, mail me and I'll send you a coupla > photos ffom the manual. > Ian Porter I guess what might help is a description of a USB plug. The case plug seems to have a VCC at the end of each of two 4-pin plugs. The other end is marked GND (ground). The inner two pins are marked USB1+ and - on one plug and USB2+ and - on the other. The motherboard has (what I think are the same as USB 1 and 2 on the plug) SBD2- and SBD3- on one row of pins and SB3+ and SB2+ on the other row. With the reversal of the + and - designation between the plug and motherboard pins gives me pause. I don't want to connect the power to the wrong pins. Thanks, Jim [log in to unmask] The NOSPIN Group is now offering Free PC Tech support at our newest website: http://freepctech.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 06:55:22 +0300 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Bassim Assamarrai <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Subject: how to find new drivers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1256" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 1) There are many places to find and download different drivers, but if you don't know *which is which* then you better ask for an expert help. Not every new driver is the best or good for your particular computer platform. You can search Microsoft to read about drivers know-how and how to download/install them. Or go to a third party and forums. Hereby 2 places to start: http://www.driverguide.com/ http://www.driversplanet.com/ 2) There are many parts in your computer need driver/s, like *not least* the Vedio card or chip, modem, sound, scanner, printer.............etc. 3) To find your EXISTING drivers by type, date and other details in Win98SE, go to Accessories-->System Tools--> System Information, but even though you may need some assistance to pinpoint your current drivers properly. There are some good free utilities help into extracting and collecting driver info from your platform, unfortunately I'm not recalling any this moment. Maybe some colleagues help in this issue. Bassim Assamarrai The NOSPIN Group is now offering Free PC Tech support at our newest website: http://freepctech.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 03:06:16 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: "Randy J. Anderson" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Hard drive You formatted the hard disk drive with FAT16 (traditional FAT) (16-bit FAT, which don't support partitions bigger than 2 GB (1.99 GB under Windows). You MUST use FAT32 (32-bit FAT) to have a partition over 2 GB. Warning: FAT32 *REQUIRES* at least Windows 95 OSR2 (operating system revision 2/ OEM service release 2)(Windows 95 that is OEM and comes with PCs made in 1997, 1998 or 1999), Windows 98 or later. ---Randy J. Anderson--- The NOSPIN Group is now offering Free PC Tech support at our newest website: http://freepctech.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 21:00:31 +1100 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Ultra <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: USB Motherboard Connector MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The simplest way: just remeber this on case VCC -> VCC on mobo on case USB- -> Data- on mobo (on your mobo marked SBD-) on case USB+ -> Data+ on mobo (SBD+ on yours) So just match the wire, and don't mix the group (VCC1 DATA1- DATA1+ GND1 on one side). There are different marks, but they mean same things, VCC always match VCC, - match -, and + match +. The most imporant one is VCC, since it carries power, don't get it wrong. Jun Qian ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Maki" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 7:42 AM Subject: [PCBUILD] USB Motherboard Connector > I am trying to connect the second USB connector on my motherboard with the > USB ports on the front of a new case. I am not sure of the correct pin > connections because the mb manual and case connectors are labeled > differently. > > motherboard connector (2 rows of 4/5 pins) > missing Ground > SBD3- SBD3+ > SVCC1 SVCC1 > SBD2- SBD2+ > SGND1 SGND1 > > case USB cables (two 4 pin connectors with separate 5th pin for ground): > VCC VCC (Red) > USB2- USB1- (White) > USB2+ USB1+ (Green) > GND GND (Black) > > gnd gnd (Black) > The NOSPIN Group is now offering Free PC Tech support at our newest website: http://freepctech.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 02:42:44 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: "Randy J. Anderson" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: formatting C: after F disk Problems The message "Trying to recover allocation unit x" followed by format terminating with the message "Format Terminated" is a BAD sign. I had that happen with a Western Digital Caviar 1 GB hard disk drive. In that case, the hard disk drive was failing. It started happening on that hard disk drive at about cluster 7,765 thus *ONLY* 238 MB of the hard disk drive was good! BAD!!! With the above mentioned hard disk drive, I heard and saw all the major telltale signs of hard disk drive failure: When powering up hard disk drive, the hard disk drive will emit "KA-TICK, KA-TICK, KA-TICK" also will emit "KA-TICK, KA-TICK, KA-TICK" when attempting to send a write data command. Any attempt wit h the DOS format program at about cluster 7,765 would result in "Attempting to recover allocation unit x" then "Format Terminated" some seconds after. Even SpinRite for that hard disk drive was NO HELP. The hard disk would be emitting "KA-TICK, KA-TICK, KA-TICK" when using SpinRite. SpinRite was not getting past that point of the beginning of problem area. It was locking up. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Format failing with "Trying to recover allocation unit x" then "Format Terminated" telltales hard disk drive failure. But before saying the hard disk drive is junk, check the BIOS settings. You may be getting the above format error symptom, because the hard disk drive BIOS parameters are not correct. ---Randy J. Anderson--- The NOSPIN Group is now offering Free PC Tech support at our newest website: http://freepctech.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 09:16:56 -0800 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Peter Shkabara <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Intel BIOS problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thank you to all that replied. I finally figured out what to do. After disable the remote boot and updating the BIOS, I concluded that it must be a setting in the CMOS that was keeping me from getting to the setup mode. Fortunately, FreePCTech has the KILLCMOS utility. I ran it, and there was the setup menu! Problem solved. Peter ------------------ The NoSpin Group [log in to unmask] The NOSPIN Group is now offering Free PC Tech support at our newest website: http://freepctech.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 05:43:36 -0600 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Ron Jobe <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Problem w/ new SDRAM PC133 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Any other ideas? Sure -- User Training! ;-) What you are reporting is DOS memory construction. Your description sounds like everything is working as designed. Find an old DOS manual (vsns 5.0 - 6.2) and read about conventional, extended and expanded memory. Memory management was one of the biggest features of Windows 95. Adding additional physical memory won't change what happens in the first megabyte of memory allocation. When DOS was popular, computer users would spend a great deal of time and money on memory management utilities to play with these numbers so that they could run more and/or bigger programs. 640K of conventional memory is a DOS limitation and won't increase regardless of what you do with the physical memory. Hope this helps! Ron Jobe ----- Original Message ----- From: "David May" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [PCBUILD] Problem w/ new SDRAM PC133 > DID NOT ADD PC133, ADDED PC100(SAME AS WHAT CAME OUT). BOTH THE OLD AND NEW > ARE SINGLE -SIDED, TRIED RUNNING JUST THE NEW MODULE AND IT RAN FINE BUT WAS > RECOGNIZED AS ONLY EXTENDED MEMORY. WHETHER I HAVE 64, 128, OR A COMBO THE > PUTER SAYS I HAVE 640K CONVENTIONAL AND XMS AS 195,520K (WHEN BOTH ARE > INSTALLED). ALSO RAN IN THE "O" AND "1" SLOTS AS SUGGESTED. ANY OTHER IDEAS? The NOSPIN Group is now offering Free PC Tech support at our newest website: http://freepctech.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 14:13:59 -0600 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Arthur Allen <[log in to unmask]> Subject: floppy quit reading Hello nospin group, I have a gateway pentium 90 with intel 586 pci motherboard. The panasonic floppy quit reading suddenly. In device manager says it is working properly. Also have a Dell Dimension 4400 with home XP so thought I could switch drives and see if it might be a cable. Put the floppy from the Dell into the gateway and it was the same. Put the drive from the gateway into the Dell and XP wanted to format the disk then after clicking on format it said it could not format it. Put the Dell floppy back into the Dell and now it does not read a disk. The plugs on the Dell can only go one way. The ribbon on the gateway could be install wrong. Now I have two floppy drives that do not work. Help Please what is happening?? Thank you Art Allen [log in to unmask] The NOSPIN Group is now offering Free PC Tech support at our newest website: http://freepctech.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 08:27:22 -0800 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: James Maki <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: USB Motherboard Connector In-Reply-To: <002401c2a80e$a3746d00$72571dcb@master> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks, Your directions corresponded to what I was thinking. I was just confused that I needed to cross the wires from the two usb cables. I tried it and it works. Jim [log in to unmask] > -----Original Message----- > From: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Ultra > Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 2:01 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [PCBUILD] USB Motherboard Connector > > > The simplest way: just remeber this > > on case VCC -> VCC on mobo > on case USB- -> Data- on mobo (on your mobo marked SBD-) > on case USB+ -> Data+ on mobo (SBD+ on yours) > > So just match the wire, and don't mix the group (VCC1 DATA1- > DATA1+ GND1 on > one side). There are different marks, but they mean same things, > VCC always > match VCC, - match -, and + match +. The most imporant one is > VCC, since it > carries power, don't get it wrong. > > Jun Qian > The NOSPIN Group is now offering Free PC Tech support at our newest website: http://freepctech.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 19:38:34 -0800 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Peter Shkabara <[log in to unmask]> Subject: SATA interface woes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My new computer saga continues! I got it put together, but the new SATA interface is not working. Here is what I have: Intel D845PEBT2 motherboard - includes a Silicon Image Sil 3112A SATA RAID controller 2 Western Digital D800 special edition (8MB buffer) hard drives 2 Iwill I2S Serial ATA to IDE interface adaptors The controller on the motherboard says that there are no SATA devices connected. Apparently this is what I get for getting a bit ahead of the current technology! I did not mean to - at first I did not know what SATA was; then I assumed that SATA drives were already available. Any help from some who may already have gone down this path would be most appreciated. I saw a review where some SATA to IDE adaptors made by Soyo were used for a performance test. Perhaps I should have purchased Soyo units, but the Iwill adaptors are physically ever so much nicer a design. Thanks for any help. Peter ------------------ The NoSpin Group [log in to unmask] The NOSPIN Group is now offering Free PC Tech support at our newest website: http://freepctech.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 22:49:26 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Rick Glazier <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: AMD 1200 X-cc: [log in to unmask] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1256" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit http://www.ecsusa.com/products/k7sem_v3.html AMD® Duron processor onboard Integrated with the most advanced technologies: Hardware Monitoring PROCESSORS Onboard AMD® Duron processors • Support 200MHz FSB CHIPSET SiS® 730S single chipset with following features: Integrated advanced 128-bit 2D/3D graphic engine SLPC I/O - ITE IT8705F System Hardware Monitor: Integrated in ITE IT8705F AC97 Audio Codec: VIA® VT1612A SYSTEM BIOS AMI 2Mb Firmware Hub • Supports Plug and Play 1.0A, AMP 1.2, Multi Boot, DMI • Support for ACPI revision 1.0 specification MEMORY 2 SDRAM DIMM Sockets • Two 168-pin DIMM sockets for 3.3V SDRAM memory module • Maximum: 1GB I/O INTERFACE Back panel I/O ports • PS/2 keyboard and PS/2 mouse connectors • Dual USB 1.1 ports and a LAN connector • One - EPP/ECP mode parallel port • One - 16550 high-speed serial I/O port • One VGA Connector • Audio ports (Mic, Line-in, Line-out and game port) Dual PCI IDE interfaces - support four IDE devices (PIO mode 4, DMA Mode 2, Ultra DMA 66/100) Supports 360K~2.88M Byte, 3 mode FDDs or LS120 ATX power supply connectors Ports, headers and others: • IrDA header • Extra mic. / speaker header • CD-ROM / DVD ROM audio input header • Extra USB ports • HDD LED , Reset Switch, Suspend LED, Power Switch headers • CPU and Chasis Fan headers • Internal PC speaker header RTC & BATTERY Integrate CMOS SRAM in SiS® 730S With CMOS hardware clear jumper EXPANSION SLOTS 2 PCI slots, 1 AGP slot, 1 AMR slot FORM FACTOR microATX (244mm*220mm), 4 Layers SPECIAL FEATURES Supports wake on LAN, wake on modem, interrupt wake-up from keyboard/mouse and keyboard power on/off Rick Glazier From: "Ahmad Hidmi" <[log in to unmask]> I want to ask about the AMD duron 1200+ Pro if it is an 1200Mhz cpu or not and if any body can help me finding the specifications of Elite motherboard k7sem with AMD Duron 1200+ cpu onboard. The NOSPIN Group Promotions is now offering Mandrake Linux or Red Hat Linux CD sets along with the OpenOffice CD... at a great price!!! http://freepctech.com/goodies/promotions.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 20:32:53 -0800 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: jerry the fatboy crider <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: AMD 1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1256" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hay there try here, http://www.ecs.com.tw/ jerry the fatboy crider ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ahmad Hidmi" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 11:39 PM Subject: [PCBUILD] AMD 1200 Hello; Iwant to ask about the AMD duron 1200+ Pro if it is an 1200Mhz cpu or not and if any body can help me finding the specifications of Elite motherboard k7sem with AMD Duron 1200+ cpu onboard thanks The NOSPIN Group is now offering Free PC Tech support at our newest website: http://freepctech.com The NOSPIN Group Promotions is now offering Mandrake Linux or Red Hat Linux CD sets along with the OpenOffice CD... at a great price!!! http://freepctech.com/goodies/promotions.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 12:35:32 EST Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: "Susan S. Hays" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Battery Backup MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I need to purchase an APC Battery Backup for my computer. I am thinking of the APC 650VA. I live out in the country and I have constant surges and power outages for no apparent reason. These occurances I feel are playing havoc on my computer. I have already had to replace my hard drive. Whether it was due to the power outages and surges I really don't know. I have a dial-up connection with a second phone line. So at night and on the weekends, my computer stay on. I shut it down during the day while I am at work or not at home. I have a Gateway Pentium III, 1000, with soon to have 512MB of Ram. I currently only have 256. Anyway, I was wondering whether the APC 650 is an overkill or not. Any feedback would appreciated since the sale goes off in a couple of days. Or any specific recommendations would be appreciated also. I don't know much about the battery backup selection, but I do want one that will be sufficient and have automatic shutdown software when my computer is on and a surge or outage takes place. Thanks in advance. Susan Hays The NOSPIN Group Promotions is now offering Mandrake Linux or Red Hat Linux CD sets along with the OpenOffice CD... at a great price!!! http://freepctech.com/goodies/promotions.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 20:18:21 -0800 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: jerry the fatboy crider <[log in to unmask]> Subject: resources?? X-cc: JIM Prettyman <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hay there listers, what is considered to be low resources anyhow? Mine gets down to 38% at=20 times when email gets stacked up.and i just changed isp my old isp. it = always was near 65% or better. I can see things slow as the resources are depleted.any idea on what is considerd low??? jerry = the fatboy crider, ps thanks ahead of time for any help!!!!! The NOSPIN Group Promotions is now offering Mandrake Linux or Red Hat Linux CD sets along with the OpenOffice CD... at a great price!!! http://freepctech.com/goodies/promotions.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 17:53:19 -0600 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: rachel richars <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Gigabyte motherboard Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Hi I was building a AMD system using a gigabyte 7ZXE. I didn't secure the heat sink correctly so the cpu burnout. WHat I am wondering is if there a way to find out if the motherboard is still ok. When I turn it on again the light, hd and everything else would come on but I wouldn't get a pictures. thanks rachel -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Meet Singles http://corp.mail.com/lavalife The NOSPIN Group Promotions is now offering Mandrake Linux or Red Hat Linux CD sets along with the OpenOffice CD... at a great price!!! http://freepctech.com/goodies/promotions.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 20:38:58 -0800 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: jerry the fatboy crider <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: floppy quit reading MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit sounds like both floppys went out on u ,i have a box full of floppys there not real reliable and lucky for us out there there not that much eather www.pricewatch.com find a good deal and replace both i keep a couple laying around just for that reason. jerry the fatboy crider ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur Allen" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:13 PM Subject: [PCBUILD] floppy quit reading > Hello nospin group, > I have a gateway pentium 90 with intel 586 pci motherboard. The > panasonic floppy quit reading suddenly. In device manager says it > is working properly. > > Also have a Dell Dimension 4400 with home XP so thought I could > switch drives and see if it might be a cable. Put the floppy from the > Dell into the gateway and it was the same. Put the drive from the > gateway into the Dell and XP wanted to format the disk then after > clicking on format it said it could not format it. > > Put the Dell floppy back into the Dell and now it does not read a > disk. The plugs on the Dell can only go one way. The ribbon on the > gateway could be install wrong. > > Now I have two floppy drives that do not work. > Help Please what is happening?? > Thank you > > Art Allen > [log in to unmask] > > The NOSPIN Group is now offering Free PC Tech > support at our newest website: > http://freepctech.com The NOSPIN Group Promotions is now offering Mandrake Linux or Red Hat Linux CD sets along with the OpenOffice CD... at a great price!!! http://freepctech.com/goodies/promotions.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 09:47:23 -0800 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Peter Shkabara <[log in to unmask]> Subject: SATA update - success! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am happy to report that my new Intel board with SATA RAID is up and running! The last problem was due to the hard drive configuration. Western Digital set the jumper default to "cable select" instead of master IDE device. Once this was fixed, the RAID started working. It sure is a nice feeling with things start working! Peter ------------------ The NoSpin Group [log in to unmask] The NOSPIN Group Promotions is now offering Mandrake Linux or Red Hat Linux CD sets along with the OpenOffice CD... at a great price!!! http://freepctech.com/goodies/promotions.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 09:47:23 -0800 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Peter Shkabara <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Battery Backup In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Susan, I got an APC Back-UPS Pro 1000 for my own system. It has shutdown software capability, although I don't use that feature. The computer is on only when I am there, so automated shutdown is of no benefit to me. Since I now have an LCD monitor, the 1000VA capacity will power my computer for probably an hour or more - when the power goes off, I keep right on working! The 1000VA cost me about $300. One problem I can share with you. Most of these UPS devices are of the "standby" variety. This means that they kick in when the power goes out. I recently had an incident where the power did not go out, but flickered. The ups did not kick in since the power did not drop out long enough, but my monitor locked up and I could not see what I was doing. Needed to reboot by pressing the appropriate keys without seeing what was happening. My monitor was in digital mode and is a bit temperamental. The point is that a standby ups will not protect you from flickers. For that you need an inline ups, but those are more expensive. Good luck. -----Original Message----- I need to purchase an APC Battery Backup for my computer. I am thinking of the APC 650VA. I live out in the country and I have constant surges and power outages for no apparent reason. takes place. Susan Hays The NOSPIN Group Promotions is now offering Mandrake Linux or Red Hat Linux CD sets along with the OpenOffice CD... at a great price!!! http://freepctech.com/goodies/promotions.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 10:28:26 -0800 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Mark Rode <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: resources?? In-Reply-To: <000e01c2a8a8$0092fbc0$6aac65ce@t6i6x2> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Below 30% is too low. But 30 to 40% is in dangerous territory, and you are very likely to get out of resources, or out of memory error messages, depending on what is running, and what is loading. The way to solve low available resources, is to either shut down programs you're not using, or reboot the computer to archive a fresh start. If you need to be running a lot of applications, and you are always seeing out of resources error messages, then consider upgrading to a more sophisticated operating system, such as NT4, Windows 2000 or above. Rode The NOSPIN Group http://freepctech.com At 08:18 PM 12/20/2002 -0800, you wrote: > hay there listers, what is considered to be low resources >anyhow? Mine gets down to 38% at >times when email gets stacked up.and i just changed isp my old isp. it >always was near >65% or better. I can see things slow as >the resources are depleted.any idea on what is considerd low??? jerry the >fatboy crider, ps thanks ahead of time for any help!!!!! The NOSPIN Group Promotions is now offering Mandrake Linux or Red Hat Linux CD sets along with the OpenOffice CD... at a great price!!! http://freepctech.com/goodies/promotions.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 11:24:21 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Carroll Grigsby <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Battery Backup In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Friday 20 December 2002 12:35 pm, Susan S. Hays wrote: > I need to purchase an APC Battery Backup for my computer. I am thinkin= g of > the APC 650VA. I live out in the country and I have constant surges an= d > power outages for no apparent reason. These occurances I feel are play= ing > havoc on my computer. I have already had to replace my hard drive.=20 > Whether it was due to the power outages and surges I really don't know.= I > have a dial-up connection with a second phone line. So at night and on= the > weekends, my computer stay on. I shut it down during the day while I a= m at > work or not at home. I have a Gateway Pentium III, 1000, with soon to = have > 512MB of Ram. I currently only have 256. Anyway, I was wondering whet= her > the APC 650 is an overkill or not. Any feedback would appreciated sinc= e > the sale goes off in a couple of days. Or any specific recommendations > would be appreciated also. I don't know much about the battery backup > selection, but I do want one that will be sufficient and have automatic > shutdown software when my computer is on and a surge or outage takes pl= ace. > > Thanks in advance. > Susan Hays Susan: Have you been to the APC website (www.apcc.com)? They have an application= that=20 will help you determine the appropriate VA capacity for your equipment an= d=20 situation, although 650VA seems about right to me for a simple SOHO deskt= op=20 setup. You'll have enough time to save your data, and shut the system dow= n. Does this model provide a means of connecting to your PC, either by USB o= r=20 serial connection? This is an essential feature, as this allows the PC to= =20 automatically shut itself down in case the power should fail when you are= =20 away or otherwise occupied. I installed a 525VA Belkin UPS last spring, and it has worked very well.=20 There's a lot of construction going on around here, so it _has_ been test= ed.=20 In particular, I've really come to appreciate that my UPS bridges me thro= ugh=20 short power interruptions that would otherwise cause a complete crash. Regards, Carroll Grigsby The NOSPIN Group Promotions is now offering Mandrake Linux or Red Hat Linux CD sets along with the OpenOffice CD... at a great price!!! http://freepctech.com/goodies/promotions.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 03:52:00 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Roger Checkr <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Battery Backup MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Susan, I am using a APC Back-UPS PRO 650. I am running AMD K6-2 300 17" monitor and zip drive plugged into the UPS. I have 15 minutes of battery run time when battery is new. It is about 3 years old now battery run time is 7 minutes. Have used the APC shut down software. I have used and been around APC UPS for several years and APC would be my first choice to purchase. Roger Checkal > I need to purchase an APC Battery Backup for my computer. I am thinking of > the APC 650VA. I live out in the country and I have constant surges and > power outages for no apparent reason. These occurances I feel are playing > havoc on my computer. I have already had to replace my hard drive. Whether > it was due to the power outages and surges I really don't know. I have a > dial-up connection with a second phone line. So at night and on the > weekends, my computer stay on. I shut it down during the day while I am at > work or not at home. I have a Gateway Pentium III, 1000, with soon to have > 512MB of Ram. I currently only have 256. Anyway, I was wondering whether > the APC 650 is an overkill or not. Any feedback would appreciated since the > sale goes off in a couple of days. Or any specific recommendations would be > appreciated also. I don't know much about the battery backup selection, but > I do want one that will be sufficient and have automatic > shutdown software > when my computer is on and a surge or outage takes place. > > Thanks in advance. > Susan Hays > > The NOSPIN Group Promotions is now offering > Mandrake Linux or Red Hat Linux CD sets along > with the OpenOffice CD... at a great price!!! > http://freepctech.com/goodies/promotions.shtml The NOSPIN Group Promotions is now offering Mandrake Linux or Red Hat Linux CD sets along with the OpenOffice CD... at a great price!!! http://freepctech.com/goodies/promotions.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 15:29:20 -0600 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: "Tommy Holmes, Jr." <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Network printer problem In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For whatever reason, we have had the same problem with a single unit on our home network that was addressed by deleting the print server from the workstation, rebooting and installing again using the HP Install Network Printer Wizard. Can't really say why but one installation goes awry nor why it has happened more than a single time. However, that is the case and that has been the solution. Tommy Holmes, Jr. [log in to unmask] 713.621.5666 > -----Original Message----- > From: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Jay Merritt > Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 10:43 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: [PCBUILD] Network printer problem > > > I have a small home network with 3 PC's (Win 98) and 1 Epson C80 printer. > They are all connected with a 3Com Dual Analog Router (acts as a > hub and also > as dial-up Internet router). All PCs can see each other and > share files via > TCP/IP protocol. The printer has a generic print server installed > on it. 2 of > the PCs can print to it, while the 3rd cannot. When you try to > print with the > 3rd PC, the lights flash on the router and the print server, as > if the signal > is being sent by the PC and received by the print server, but it > will always > time out and eventually lock up the entire network. I have tried switching > and reversing the PCs and print server cables where they plug into the > router, all with the same results as listed above. I have tried > setting the > print server to a static IP and also a DHCP. Again no > improvement. Also tried > adding NetBEUI protocol. Any ideas? > > Thanks, > Jay Merritt > > The NOSPIN Group is now offering Free PC Tech > support at our newest website: > http://freepctech.com > The NOSPIN Group Promotions is now offering Mandrake Linux or Red Hat Linux CD sets along with the OpenOffice CD... at a great price!!! http://freepctech.com/goodies/promotions.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 16:33:32 EST Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: "Susan S. Hays" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Battery Backup MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Carroll Grigsby wrote: Have you been to the APC website (www.apcc.com)? They have an application that will help you determine the appropriate VA capacity for your equipment and situation, although 650VA seems about right to me for a simple SOHO desktop setup. You'll have enough time to save your data, and shut the system down. Does this model provide a means of connecting to your PC, either by USB or serial connection? This is an essential feature, as this allows the PC to automatically shut itself down in case the power should fail when you are away or otherwise occupied.> Hi Carroll: It states Interface port DB-9 RS-232 on the APC site. What kind of port is that? It is evidently not a USB or it would have said that. Would this kind of port be okay? You stated that you had a Belkin. Should I be looking there too? Is it as good as the APC? Thanks for your input and advice. Thank you, Susan Hays The NOSPIN Group provides a monthly newsletter with great tips, information and ideas: NOSPIN-L, The NOSPIN Magazine Visit our web site to signup: http://freepctech.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 13:57:20 -0000 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Michael FITZPATRICK <[log in to unmask]> Subject: maximum USB cable length MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello I've read that the maximum length of a USB cable should be 5mt ... then this can be extended to 25mt by using a hub at each junction/connection .... crikey that is clumsy! Does any one know of any other 'cost effective' method of extending the length of a USB cable? Any advice will be appreciated TIA ... Mick The NOSPIN Group provides a monthly newsletter with great tips, information and ideas: NOSPIN-L, The NOSPIN Magazine Visit our web site to signup: http://freepctech.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 06:55:38 -0800 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Brad Loomis <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Battery Backup X-cc: [log in to unmask] In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Susan, If you do get one that requires a Serial cable (DB-9), some use a proprietary cable so get it from them. APC does have USB interface UPS in the 500VA range which should be plenty for your needs. Look again at their site. Brad Loomis Morro Bay, CA -----Original Message----- Hi Carroll: It states Interface port DB-9 RS-232 on the APC site. What kind of port is that? It is evidently not a USB or it would have said that. Would this kind of port be okay? You stated that you had a Belkin. Should I be looking there too? Is it as good as the APC? Thanks for your input and advice. Thank you, Susan Hays The NOSPIN Group provides a monthly newsletter with great tips, information and ideas: NOSPIN-L, The NOSPIN Magazine Visit our web site to signup: http://freepctech.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 22:33:08 +1300 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Ian <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Video Card Problems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roy, I'd go along with Tom's suggestion if you can and use W98. However, there is a method which might reveal the card's identity - try this: Go to a DOS box. Type debug, enter. Type dc000:0010 enter Type d enter several more times Details of the card, bios and chipset will appear in successive fragments at right. Type q, enter to quit debug, then type exit, enter, to quit the DOS box. Ian Porter Computer Guys Inc. Arrowtown New Zealand [log in to unmask] From: "Tom Turak" Subject: Re: [PCBUILD] Video Card Problems > ATI Rage II drivers should work. There are a lot of reasons why win95 won't > load the display driver. Since win95 is a witch's brew of 16 bit and 32 bit > code, sometimes a problem using 32 bit code prevents enhanced performance > features from loading. That would mean you have a deeper problem than just > the driver. > > You don't say how you loaded the driver. Some cards were particular about > how the driver was installed especially if the plug and play was less than > perfect. You can try loading it through device manager, or deleting the > video entry in device manager and running the 'add hardware' wizard. If you > had the STD cd, it may have had a setup.exe routine. > > One thing I strongly suggest is testing the system with a win98 install. > Win98 should detect and load an acceptable driver for your card > automatically from its own driver library on the cd. If this works, at > least the card has been certified as being in working order. It also gets > around the problem of finding STD. > > I run dos games on win98 systems. If you don't have any sound problems, > then you should stick with win98 for this system. Sound drivers could be > the only issue under win98 for your dos games. > > Tom Turak > > -----Original Message----- > From: vlsideband [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 2:50 AM > > Hello, > I have a few questions hopefully someone on the list can answer. > I recently bought a IBM Aptive 200 Mhz MMX, Model 2159 S90 computer from > someone (I wanted a retro XMAS...lol). ...... > Windows 95 booted up fine, everything > was back to normal except the Video Card. I could not get anything other > than standard VGA 16 colors. Went on the net and researched the Card that > was orginally installed per IBM, an ATI Rage II. Downloaded the drivers and > installed them. No change. Downloaded Belarc Advisor to try to identify the > card, it stated a ATI Rage II was installed. Still standard VGA. When I > pulled the Video Card it is a STD Systems, Inc. card made in 1998.( My new > troubleshooting rule: Know what you're working with first, it might save an > extra days work ). This computer was made in 1996 so a pervious owner must > have installed a new card. > Now what I know about Video Cards wouldn't fill a thimble. How do I identify > this card to find what drivers to use The NOSPIN Group provides a monthly newsletter with great tips, information and ideas: NOSPIN-L, The NOSPIN Magazine Visit our web site to signup: http://freepctech.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 11:37:51 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Herbert Graf <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: maximum USB cable length In-Reply-To: <006401c2a9c2$0c89c420$0100a8c0@garage> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I've read that the maximum length of a USB cable should be 5mt > ... then this > can be extended to 25mt by using a hub at each junction/connection .... > crikey that is clumsy! > > Does any one know of any other 'cost effective' method of extending the > length of a USB cable? Usb was NEVER meant to be long range. That being said, you could always TRY a longer cable. The 5M limit is due to power issues. If a device uses the max power available from a USB host then with more than 5M of cable the voltage drop is large enough such that the actual voltage seen by the device is below spec. If you have a low power device, or a self powered device, you SHOULD be able to go farther. However, 25M IS the ABSOLUTE limit, going beyond that will result in no communication. TTYL The NOSPIN Group provides a monthly newsletter with great tips, information and ideas: NOSPIN-L, The NOSPIN Magazine Visit our web site to signup: http://freepctech.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 10:35:07 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Carroll Grigsby <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Battery Backup In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Saturday 21 December 2002 04:33 pm, Susan S. Hays wrote: > >Carroll Grigsby wrote: > > Have you been to the APC website (www.apcc.com)? They have an applicati= on > that > will help you determine the appropriate VA capacity for your equipment = and > situation, although 650VA seems about right to me for a simple SOHO des= ktop > setup. You'll have enough time to save your data, and shut the system d= own. > > Does this model provide a means of connecting to your PC, either by USB= or > serial connection? This is an essential feature, as this allows the PC = to > automatically shut itself down in case the power should fail when you a= re > away or otherwise occupied.> > > Hi Carroll: > It states Interface port DB-9 RS-232 on the APC site. What kind of por= t is > that? It is evidently not a USB or it would have said that. Would thi= s > kind of port be okay? > > You stated that you had a Belkin. Should I be looking there too? Is i= t as > good as the APC? > > Thanks for your input and advice. > > Thank you, > Susan Hays Susan: Good, it has a serial port -- commonly known as COM1: and COM2:. If you h= ave a=20 spare one, that's as good a way as any to do it. (And, BTW, the way that = I do=20 it.) While USB is probably easier to connect and disconnect, I don't see = that=20 as much of an advantage is this instance, since connecting the UPS is a=20 one-time event. You'll need a serial cable if one is not included in the=20 package. Before you buy one, check your computer to see whether it has a=20 9-pin or 25-pin connector so that you get the appropriate cable. (Most=20 computers provide two 9-pin connectors, but some older ones will have one= of=20 each.) As for the brand, APC is probably the premier UPS manufacturer and, in fa= ct, =20 had been my first choice. However, at the time Belkin was offering a bett= er=20 deal, so I spent a few hours checking them out on the web. They passed=20 muster, and so that's what I bought. Sounds like a good deal to me. Regards, Carroll Grigsby The NOSPIN Group provides a monthly newsletter with great tips, information and ideas: NOSPIN-L, The NOSPIN Magazine Visit our web site to signup: http://freepctech.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 18:32:48 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Carl Barnhart <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Video Card problems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I just installed a new mobo and processor today. I only had the RAM and video card in on startup. To start I reformatted and reinstalled WIN98SE. When 98 detected my video card it installed the standard driver from the 98se CD. When I tried to install my Guillemont Prophet 3d drivers from the driver CD they dont work. They seem like they install well, but upon restart i get a message saying my adapters dont work or are incompatible. I've used these drivers on 98se before and theyve worked fine. Any ideas? Carl Barnhart The NOSPIN Group provides a monthly newsletter with great tips, information and ideas: NOSPIN-L, The NOSPIN Magazine Visit our web site to signup: http://freepctech.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 19:55:28 EST Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: "Susan S. Hays" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Joule Rating MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just one last question concerning a battery back-up. What is a joule rating? Should I be looking for a small or large number in the joule rating for the best battery back-up. Thanks so much to all of you that replied to my last questions on choosing a battery back-up. Susan Hays PCBUILD maintains hundreds of useful files for download visit our download web page at: http://freepctech.com/downloads.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 15:46:03 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Bob Warasila <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: SATA update - success! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Peter, My AMD project from last summer is running fine and I'm thinking about doing a P4-3.06. I also read that the Intel MB got good reviews. What CPU are you running and can the RAID be turned off? Bob Warasila ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Shkabara" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 12:47 PM Subject: [PCBUILD] SATA update - success! > I am happy to report that my new Intel board with SATA RAID is up and > running! The last problem was due to the hard drive configuration. > Western Digital set the jumper default to "cable select" instead of > master IDE device. Once this was fixed, the RAID started working. It > sure is a nice feeling with things start working! > > Peter > ------------------ > The NoSpin Group > [log in to unmask] > > The NOSPIN Group Promotions is now offering > Mandrake Linux or Red Hat Linux CD sets along > with the OpenOffice CD... at a great price!!! > http://freepctech.com/goodies/promotions.shtml > > PCBUILD maintains hundreds of useful files for download visit our download web page at: http://freepctech.com/downloads.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 07:47:52 -0800 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Brad Loomis <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Print Server MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Anyone know of a USB 2.0 printserver for Windows? Preferably 3 port. Or a combination of USB 2.0 and Parallel port? I looked and all I found via Google was this, http://www.jci.co.jp/euro/products/applianceserver/appliance.html which looks nice but expensive and possibly only available in Japan. Thanks Brad Loomis Morro Bay, CA PCBUILD maintains hundreds of useful files for download visit our download web page at: http://freepctech.com/downloads.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 01:08:43 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Ian Carmichael <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Joule Rating In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 07:55 PM 12/22/2002 -0500, you wrote: >Just one last question concerning a battery back-up. What is a joule rating? > Should I be looking for a small or large number in the joule rating for the >best battery back-up. Thanks so much to all of you that replied to my last >questions on choosing a battery back-up. > >Susan Hays > > Joule is supposedly the amount or quantity of energy a device puts out; so a higher number theoretically better. But consider the info here: http://www.currenttechnology.com/newsletters/winterpg5.htm <Ian Carmichael> PCBUILD maintains hundreds of useful files for download visit our download web page at: http://freepctech.com/downloads.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 13:45:00 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Liz Catron <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Bad floppy disk help MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi=20 I need some help with a software program I just purchased called = Organized Expressions It came with 2 floppy disks I tryed to install it on my computer it = gives me the message: the disk is not formatted do you want to format it = now? I say no and thats as far as I can get with it! Im sure the company will send me new disks but I dont want to wait if I = can fix it myself somehow? I know there are data recovery programs. I = downloaded one, and it found the setup exe. but it wont fix it unless I = buy the software to do it> I was wondering if there is a freeware program that might fix the = floppy. I remember years back that there was something out there but dont = remember the name. Thank you for your time=20 Liz Catron=20 P.S Im running on Windows XP=20 PCBUILD maintains hundreds of useful files for download visit our download web page at: http://freepctech.com/downloads.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 06:23:01 +0000 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Joule Rating I believe Ian is on the right track, but in this case a Joule rating has more to do with how much energy can be absorbed in case of a power spike, lightning strike, etc. rather than how much energy the device (battery back-up) puts out. You'll notice that surge protectors are rated in Joules, and they don't provide any power back up, but just some protection against spikes. It is absolutly correct to say the higher the number the better (and more expensive). Steve Sabljak > >Just one last question concerning a battery back-up. What is a joule rating? > > Should I be looking for a small or large number in the joule rating for the > >best battery back-up. Thanks so much to all of you that replied to my last > >questions on choosing a battery back-up. > > > >Susan Hays > Joule is supposedly the amount or quantity of energy a device puts out; so > a higher number theoretically better. PCBUILD maintains hundreds of useful files for download visit our download web page at: http://freepctech.com/downloads.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 08:40:39 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Paul Hachmeyer <[log in to unmask]> Subject: wrong cpu speed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a 5 year old gateway p5-200 I'm trying to prep as a giveaway. The 200 chip wouldn't support the inexpensive internal winmodems, they all seem to require mmx, preferably with a 233 or 266 chip. I replaced the chip with a 166 w/mmx, modem now works fine but the pc booted very slowly - about 2 minutes. Then I slowed the host bus speed via jumper from 66 to 60, boot time went from about 2 minutes set at 66 to 15 seconds with setting at 60. At boot, cpu speed now shows 150 instead of 166. I can't locate any jumpers to set the motherboard for a different chip. What else can I do? PCBUILD maintains hundreds of useful files for download visit our download web page at: http://freepctech.com/downloads.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 07:31:22 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Fred Nielson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Joule Rating In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "This is the most varying specification of a SPD, as there are no standards for measuring Joule Rating. The commonly used definition of Joule Rating is the amount of energy the SPD can absorb before it becomes damaged. It doesn 't quantify a level of protection to the electronic equipment that is plugged into the SPD." Source: http://www.heco.com/CDA/default/0,1999,TCID%253D2%2526EmbedCID%253D0%2526CCI D%253D4295%2526LCID%253D4281%2526CTYP%253DARTC,00.html As there is no standard for measuring joules, the manufacturers can, and often do, fudge the rating. Ian is right about the higher rating the better. Another descriptive article regarding how to compare UPS's: http://www.bestbuy.com/ComputersPeripherals/Desktops/hr/hr6SurgeProtectorsAn dUPS.asp Fred Nielson -----Original Message----- >Just one last question concerning a battery back-up. What is a joule rating? >Susan Hays >Joule is supposedly the amount or quantity of energy a device puts out; so a higher number theoretically better. But consider the info here: http://www.currenttechnology.com/newsletters/winterpg5.htm <Ian Carmichael> PCBUILD maintains hundreds of useful files for download visit our download web page at: http://freepctech.com/downloads.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 08:43:31 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Don Weagant <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Bad floppy disk help In-Reply-To: <001d01c2a9ea$3b6c9b50$c9384918@Catron> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 22 Dec 2002, at 13:45, Liz Catron wrote: about [PCBUILD] Bad floppy disk help > Hi > I need some help with a software program I just purchased called Organized Expressions > It came with 2 floppy disks I tryed to install it on my computer it gives me the message: the disk is not formatted do you want to format it now? I say no and thats as far as I can get with it! What are the install instructions?? It may be a boot install, put the disk in and reboot, or you may have to run setup from the run A:\ setup, or you may have to open the disk, and them double click on install, if this is the case, then your disk may be corrupt... Don PCBUILD maintains hundreds of useful files for download visit our download web page at: http://freepctech.com/downloads.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 10:46:45 +1300 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Ian <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Bad floppy disk help MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Liz - every time I've seen that message, it's indicated a bad floppy disk. If you can see the files on the floppies, why not copy them to a temp folder on youir hard drive and try installing from there? Ian Porter Computer Guys Inc. Arrowtown New Zealand [log in to unmask] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Liz Catron" Subject: [PCBUILD] Bad floppy disk help Hi I need some help with a software program I just purchased called Organized Expressions It came with 2 floppy disks I tryed to install it on my computer it gives me the message: the disk is not formatted do you want to format it now? I say no and thats as far as I can get with it! Im sure the company will send me new disks but I dont want to wait if I can fix it myself somehow? I know there are data recovery programs. I downloaded one, and it found the setup exe. but it wont fix it unless I buy the software to do it> I was wondering if there is a freeware program that might fix the floppy. I remember years back that there was something out there but dont remember the name. Thank you for your time Liz Catron P.S Im running on Windows XP PCBUILD maintains hundreds of useful files for download visit our download web page at: http://freepctech.com/downloads.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 17:30:06 -0800 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Peter Shkabara <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: SATA update - success! In-Reply-To: <002701c2a931$fb2d5920$6eb7f4d1@analytic> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I got a P4 2.4GB - the B means that the FSB is at 533MHz - uses PC2700 DDR RAM. The D845PEBT2 motherboard is nice and has easy to configure CMOS settings. It is not as "adjustable" as overclockers would like, but it is already fast enough for me! The RAID controller is a Silicon Image Sil 3112A chip - RAID is optional through its own configuration settings. The SATA/RAID two channels are in addition to the two IDE interfaces, so you could have 4 IDE devices and two more SATA devices. The Iwill I2S IDE to SATA drive adaptors work well and are a clean design. They cost me $26 each plus $11 shipping. Good luck with your project. A P4 3G might be nice, but I don't care for its current price point! I wait for the slope to get a bit shallower before I buy in. The 2.4GB cost me $190. Peter -----Original Message----- My AMD project from last summer is running fine and I'm thinking about doing a P4-3.06. I also read that the Intel MB got good reviews. What CPU are you running and can the RAID be turned off? Bob Warasila PCBUILD maintains hundreds of useful files for download visit our download web page at: http://freepctech.com/downloads.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 17:38:26 -0800 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Peter Shkabara <[log in to unmask]> Subject: S.M.A.R.T. hard drive message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In migrating my files to my new P4 computer, I temporarily connected my Maxtor 40G hard drive to the new board. During booting, I got a SMART message saying that the drive was reporting an error and that I should backup the data and replace the drive. I never got this message on my old computer (P2-400), and the drive has apparently been functioning just fine. Anyone have experience with the SMART reporting? Peter ------------------ The NoSpin Group [log in to unmask] PCBUILD maintains hundreds of useful files for download visit our download web page at: http://freepctech.com/downloads.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 16:24:23 -0600 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: "Tommy Holmes, Jr." <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Battery Backup In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Now, as I recall from when we brought the UBPS's on-board, we opted for the power conditioning models from APC and the serial cable was proprietary. Better give that some attention. Tommy Holmes, Jr. [log in to unmask] 713.621.5666 > -----Original Message----- > From: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Carroll Grigsby > Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 9:35 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [PCBUILD] Battery Backup > > > On Saturday 21 December 2002 04:33 pm, Susan S. Hays wrote: > > >Carroll Grigsby wrote: > > > > Have you been to the APC website (www.apcc.com)? They have an > application > > that > > will help you determine the appropriate VA capacity for your > equipment and > > situation, although 650VA seems about right to me for a simple > SOHO desktop > > setup. You'll have enough time to save your data, and shut the > system down. > > > > Does this model provide a means of connecting to your PC, > either by USB or > > serial connection? This is an essential feature, as this allows > the PC to > > automatically shut itself down in case the power should fail > when you are > > away or otherwise occupied.> > > > > Hi Carroll: > > It states Interface port DB-9 RS-232 on the APC site. What > kind of port is > > that? It is evidently not a USB or it would have said that. Would this > > kind of port be okay? > > > > You stated that you had a Belkin. Should I be looking there > too? Is it as > > good as the APC? > > > > Thanks for your input and advice. > > > > Thank you, > > Susan Hays > > Susan: > Good, it has a serial port -- commonly known as COM1: and COM2:. > If you have a > spare one, that's as good a way as any to do it. (And, BTW, the > way that I do > it.) While USB is probably easier to connect and disconnect, I > don't see that > as much of an advantage is this instance, since connecting the UPS is a > one-time event. You'll need a serial cable if one is not included in the > package. Before you buy one, check your computer to see whether it has a > 9-pin or 25-pin connector so that you get the appropriate cable. (Most > computers provide two 9-pin connectors, but some older ones will > have one of > each.) > > As for the brand, APC is probably the premier UPS manufacturer > and, in fact, > had been my first choice. However, at the time Belkin was > offering a better > deal, so I spent a few hours checking them out on the web. They passed > muster, and so that's what I bought. > > Sounds like a good deal to me. > > Regards, > Carroll Grigsby > > The NOSPIN Group provides a monthly newsletter with great > tips, information and ideas: NOSPIN-L, The NOSPIN Magazine > Visit our web site to signup: http://freepctech.com > PCBUILD's List Owners: Bob Wright<[log in to unmask]> Drew Dunn<[log in to unmask]> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 12:19:34 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Aftab Ahmed <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: floppy quit reading X-To: Arthur Allen <[log in to unmask]> I have been facing the same problem for over a year. I tried to find a solution by posting on this and other forums, also tried getting a solution from MS and Dell support and talking to other "experts" in the field with no results. I even tried changing few FDs without fixing the problem. This is what I did. Boot in safe mode. If the floppy drive (FD) responds in safe mode then there is no problem with the FD. (If not change FD). Then the problem is one of your installed softwares - which is somehow interacting badly with the OS and hardware. You have to uninstall each program in sequence and find out the bad apple. From my experience: un-install any and all Symantic (Norton) Software programs eg NAV, ND etc, most probably your problem will go away. (That is what fixed m y problem). Aftab On Fri, 20 Dec 2002 14:13:59 -0600, Arthur Allen <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >Hello nospin group, >I have a gateway pentium 90 with intel 586 pci motherboard. The >panasonic floppy quit reading suddenly. In device manager says it >is working properly. > >Also have a Dell Dimension 4400 with home XP so thought I could >switch drives and see if it might be a cable. Put the floppy from the >Dell into the gateway and it was the same. Put the drive from the >gateway into the Dell and XP wanted to format the disk then after >clicking on format it said it could not format it. > >Put the Dell floppy back into the Dell and now it does not read a >disk. The plugs on the Dell can only go one way. The ribbon on the >gateway could be install wrong. > >Now I have two floppy drives that do not work. >Help Please what is happening?? > Thank you > >Art Allen >[log in to unmask] > > The NOSPIN Group is now offering Free PC Tech > support at our newest website: > http://freepctech.com PCBUILD's List Owners: Bob Wright<[log in to unmask]> Drew Dunn<[log in to unmask]> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 15:39:32 -0800 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: jerry the fatboy crider <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Bad floppy disk help MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit well it sounds like your floppy mite be bad try a diff.floppy that u know works or try those new floppys in a diff.pc jerry the fatboy crider ----- Original Message ----- From: "Liz Catron" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 10:45 AM Subject: [PCBUILD] Bad floppy disk help Hi I need some help with a software program I just purchased called Organized Expressions It came with 2 floppy disks I tryed to install it on my computer it gives me the message: the disk is not formatted do you want to format it now? I say no and thats as far as I can get with it! Im sure the company will send me new disks but I dont want to wait if I can fix it myself somehow? I know there are data recovery programs. I downloaded one, and it found the setup exe. but it wont fix it unless I buy the software to do it> I was wondering if there is a freeware program that might fix the floppy. I remember years back that there was something out there but dont remember the name. Thank you for your time Liz Catron P.S Im running on Windows XP PCBUILD maintains hundreds of useful files for download visit our download web page at: http://freepctech.com/downloads.shtml PCBUILD's List Owners: Bob Wright<[log in to unmask]> Drew Dunn<[log in to unmask]> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 10:50:51 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Joe Lore <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Battery Backup In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi, Not overkill at all. You should remember to surge protect the phone lines as well, as they are the "back Door" problem for surges. At 12:35 PM 12/20/2002 EST, you wrote: >I need to purchase an APC Battery Backup for my computer. I am thinking of >the APC 650VA. I live out in the country and I have constant surges and >power outages for no apparent reason. These occurances I feel are playing >havoc on my computer. I have already had to replace my hard drive. Whether >it was due to the power outages and surges I really don't know. I have a >dial-up connection with a second phone line. So at night and on the >weekends, my computer stay on. I shut it down during the day while I am at >work or not at home. I have a Gateway Pentium III, 1000, with soon to have >512MB of Ram. I currently only have 256. Anyway, I was wondering whether >the APC 650 is an overkill or not. Any feedback would appreciated since the >sale goes off in a couple of days. Or any specific recommendations would be >appreciated also. I don't know much about the battery backup selection, but >I do want one that will be sufficient and have automatic shutdown software >when my computer is on and a surge or outage takes place. > >Thanks in advance. >Susan Hays > > The NOSPIN Group Promotions is now offering > Mandrake Linux or Red Hat Linux CD sets along > with the OpenOffice CD... at a great price!!! > http://freepctech.com/goodies/promotions.shtml > God Bless America! Joe Lore MicroComputerCenter, Inc. 781-933-5530 / [log in to unmask] PCBUILD's List Owners: Bob Wright<[log in to unmask]> Drew Dunn<[log in to unmask]> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 14:45:31 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Phillip Roey <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Can't get HD to work in DMA in XP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Group, I'm helping a friend upgrade his computer to Win XP. The HD always shows up in PIO mode. I have it set to DMA if available in the HD controller properties. Have tried the usual driver reninstalls, changed 80 pin cables, etc. It is an UDMA 100 drive, and shows such in the bios. MB is an Amptron 810. The DVD-ROM does show up in DMA mode. I remember reading about a registry hack to force it into DMA, but can't track it down now that I need it. Any ideas? TIA, Phillip Roey [log in to unmask] PCBUILD's List Owners: Bob Wright<[log in to unmask]> Drew Dunn<[log in to unmask]> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 16:24:33 +1100 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Ultra <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Can't get HD to work in DMA in XP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I had this thing happen at work, which we found to be compatibility problem between certain mobo/BIOS and HDD. I couldn't remember the reg hack, but there is one way to try as we had discovered a trick to force DMA mode enable. We didn't try it on any other mobo but Aopen, since the problem is very rare (only happened to us on Aopen and one ASUS socket370 mode mobo, both are now no longer problem as latest BIOS fixed them). Flash BIOS to the lastest before try anything else!!! First, you need to move HDD and your DVD on same chennal, and connected to IDE2, then check if windows enable HDD DMA, if so, move them back to IDE1 will likely do the trick. If on IDE2, HDD is still in PIO only mode, then you need to have a CDROM (or DVD ...) that surely work in DMA mode connected to IDE1, and in windows, make sure it's DMA enabled; now move HDD back to IDE1. This normally works (but once we couldn't get DMA enabled by anyway). If nothing works, I'd suggest either change the mobo or HDD. My personal opinion is, if the mobo has this problem, it is not worth to get it. Jun Qian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phillip Roey" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2002 6:45 AM Subject: [PCBUILD] Can't get HD to work in DMA in XP > Hi Group, > > I'm helping a friend upgrade his computer to Win XP. The HD always shows up > in PIO mode. I have it set to DMA if available in the HD controller > properties. Have tried the usual driver reninstalls, changed 80 pin cables, > etc. It is an UDMA 100 drive, and shows such in the bios. MB is an Amptron > 810. The DVD-ROM does show up in DMA mode Visit our website regularly for FAQs, articles, how-to's, tech tips and much more http://freepctech.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 10:54:25 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Joe Lore <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Gigabyte motherboard In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi, Main board should still be okay you have to try a different processor to be sure. Make sure the correct bus speed is set on the main board for the CPU that is used. At 05:53 PM 12/20/2002 -0600, you wrote: >Hi > >I was building a AMD system using a gigabyte 7ZXE. I didn't secure the heat sink correctly so the cpu burnout. WHat I am wondering is if there a way to find out if the motherboard is still ok. When I turn it on again the light, hd and everything else would come on but I wouldn't get a pictures. > >thanks >rachel >-- >__________________________________________________________ >Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com >http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup > >Meet Singles >http://corp.mail.com/lavalife > > The NOSPIN Group Promotions is now offering > Mandrake Linux or Red Hat Linux CD sets along > with the OpenOffice CD... at a great price!!! > http://freepctech.com/goodies/promotions.shtml > God Bless America! Joe Lore MicroComputerCenter, Inc. 781-933-5530 / [log in to unmask] Visit our website regularly for FAQs, articles, how-to's, tech tips and much more http://freepctech.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 08:55:54 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Phillip Roey <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Can't get HD to work in DMA in XP :Solution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is evidently a common problem. After lots of search engine probing, I found a working solution. Uninstall the drive and IDE controller. After XP reinstalls the drivers, and you reboot, you MUST set the drive to PIO only. Then when you switch it back to "DMA when available" it will correctly detect the UDMA drive. Thanks, Phillip Roey [log in to unmask] > Hi Group, > > I'm helping a friend upgrade his computer to Win XP. The HD always shows up > in PIO mode. I have it set to DMA if available in the HD controller > properties. Have tried the usual driver reninstalls, changed 80 pin cables, > etc. It is an UDMA 100 drive, and shows such in the bios. MB is an Amptron > 810. The DVD-ROM does show up in DMA mode. > > I remember reading about a registry hack to force it into DMA, but can't > track it down now that I need it. Any ideas? > > TIA, > Phillip Roey > [log in to unmask] > Visit our website regularly for FAQs, articles, how-to's, tech tips and much more http://freepctech.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 10:41:05 +0200 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Chilangisha Changwe <[log in to unmask]> Subject: PC boot problem In-Reply-To: <002001c214e7$7dd4e3a0$d9b35a0c@vaio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT A friend's PC is failing to boot. The hard disk is identified quite alright but after that it gives an " invalid disk replace and press any key to continue" error message. Pressing a key does not solve anything. One interesting thing is that it cant even boot with boot disketes. I did set the boot sequence starting with A: then C: The PC is 486, win 95, 24MB RAM and 800 MB disk space. Chilangisha Changwe Do you want to signoff PCBUILD or just change to Digest mode - visit our web site: http://freepctech.com/pcbuild.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 23:49:21 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Brett Getz <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Computer Promblems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey guys, I was wondering if someone could help me out with a promblem = that I am having with my desktop PC. When I push the power button all I = get is a blank screen with no HDD activity and no video the only thing = that pops up on the screen is no video input. The only thing that I can = think of is the motherboard or cpu is bad. If this is the promblem then = how would I go about testing either components? Any help would be = greatful. Brett Getz........ Do you want to signoff PCBUILD or just change to Digest mode - visit our web site: http://freepctech.com/pcbuild.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 09:07:34 -0300 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Howard Rubin <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: S.M.A.R.T. hard drive message First thing I would do is go to the Maxtor site, download and run their MaxBlast utility and test the drive, The SMART was probably turned off on your other setup. The SMART circuitry is supposed to predict faliure before it happens so you can get your data off before you loose it. Self-Monitoring, Analysis and Reporting Technology Here is a random site I pulled up on Google that can explain more: http://www.ariolic.com/activesmart/ . In my experience, this technology is very reliable and I always turn it on in any machine I work on. Howard Rubin Fortaleza, Brazil Re:: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 17:38:26 -0800 From: Peter Shkabara <[log in to unmask]> Subject: S.M.A.R.T. hard drive message In migrating my files to my new P4 computer, I temporarily connected my Maxtor 40G hard drive to the new board. During booting, I got a SMART message saying that the drive was reporting an error and that I should backup the data and replace the drive. I never got this message on my old computer (P2-400), and the drive has apparently been functioning just fine. Anyone have experience with the SMART reporting? Peter ------------------ The NoSpin Group [log in to unmask] Do you want to signoff PCBUILD or just change to Digest mode - visit our web site: http://freepctech.com/pcbuild.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 17:00:31 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Joe Lore <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: AMD 1200 In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi, AMD CPU's no longer are numbered by the actual speed the chip runs at, but rather at what equivalent INTEL cpus speed is most favorably compares to. This is because AMD says there ore other factors than speed that determine how fast a CPU really is. Confused yet? Should be, it's kind of like a shell game because they can't win on the raw cpu speed issue, so they changed the way the game is played to favor themselves. example: the amd xp1500+ really runs at 1.33ghz. (266 hhz bus) sorry that is the only one I have handy to compare with At 09:39 AM 12/19/2002 +0200, you wrote: >Hello; >Iwant to ask about the AMD duron 1200+ Pro if it is an 1200Mhz cpu or not and if any body can help me finding the specifications of Elite motherboard k7sem with AMD Duron 1200+ cpu onboard >thanks > > The NOSPIN Group is now offering Free PC Tech > support at our newest website: > http://freepctech.com > God Bless America! Joe Lore MicroComputerCenter, Inc. 781-933-5530 / [log in to unmask] Do you want to signoff PCBUILD or just change to Digest mode - visit our web site: http://freepctech.com/pcbuild.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 23:32:43 -0600 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Mike6742 <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Joule Rating MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A unit of electrical energy equal to the work done. The higher the better. Personally I wouldn't waste money on one. Just back up your files. Just my opinion. Mike Sees http://freepctech.com/downloads.shtml Do you want to signoff PCBUILD or just change to Digest mode - visit our web site: http://freepctech.com/pcbuild.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 08:36:19 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Don Weagant <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Joule Rating In-Reply-To: <20021223062302.MAXK20003.mtiwmhc13.worldnet.att.net@mtiwebc20> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT What is a joule rating? Joule rating refers to the sensitivity of the product to react....surge protectors are rated in Joules....the higher number is better....it will react to a lower voltage power surge, and protect your computer from surges. The price raises with the higher numbers, because they are better at protecting your system. Don Do you want to signoff PCBUILD or just change to Digest mode - visit our web site: http://freepctech.com/pcbuild.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 19:53:03 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Prettyman <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Radeon 32mb pci vga tv out ntsc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello list: Can someone help me find a driver for this video card? Radeon 32mb pci vga tv out ntsc. #1027570401 Thanks in advance Jim Prettyman [log in to unmask] --------------------------------------------- Introducing NetZero Long Distance 1st month Free! Sign up today at: www.netzerolongdistance.com Do you want to signoff PCBUILD or just change to Digest mode - visit our web site: http://freepctech.com/pcbuild.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 13:15:13 -0800 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Minson Ngo <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Computer Promblems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does the power light come on? If not, the power supply may have gone bad and probably needs to be replaced. You might also try and check the power cord and its connection from the pc to the wall outlet. It may have come loose or something. If the power does work, but the system will not intialize it may be your video card. Try reseating it, if it still does not work, your video card may be malfunctioning. Any number of things can cause a computer to not start. You just have to troublshoot each component until you find the problem. Check the AC from your wall outlet, the power supply, motherboard, processor, and the hard drive. I am sure one of those is the cause of your problem. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brett Getz" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 8:49 PM Subject: [PCBUILD] Computer Promblems Hey guys, I was wondering if someone could help me out with a promblem that I am having with my desktop PC. When I push the power button all I get is a blank screen with no HDD activity and no video the only thing that pops up on the screen is no video input. The only thing that I can think of is the motherboard or cpu is bad. If this is the promblem then how would I go about testing either components? Any help would be greatful. Brett Getz........ Do you want to signoff PCBUILD or just change to Digest mode - visit our web site: http://freepctech.com/pcbuild.shtml Do you want to signoff PCBUILD or just change to Digest mode - visit our web site: http://freepctech.com/pcbuild.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 11:54:49 -0600 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Dave Jones <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: PC boot problem MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT How big is the HD? the bios may not support it. Dave Jones http://www.airmemories.com http://www.fwbac.com Camel: A horse designed by committee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chilangisha Changwe" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 2:41 AM Subject: [PCBUILD] PC boot problem > A friend's PC is failing to boot. The hard disk is identified quite alright but after that it > gives an " invalid disk replace and press any key to continue" error message. Pressing > a key does not solve anything. One interesting thing is that it cant even boot with boot > disketes. I did set the boot sequence starting with A: then C: > > The PC is 486, win 95, 24MB RAM and 800 MB disk space. > > > Chilangisha Changwe > > Do you want to signoff PCBUILD or just change to > Digest mode - visit our web site: > http://freepctech.com/pcbuild.shtml Do you want to signoff PCBUILD or just change to Digest mode - visit our web site: http://freepctech.com/pcbuild.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 17:18:18 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Doyle Hirsch <[log in to unmask]> Subject: CD Burning My CD-RW has stopped burning CD's. Whenever I insert a CD and try to burn either a data or an audio CD it returns the message: Software(Windows Media,Nero, EasyCD Creator) has encountered an " unknown error". The disk then ejects.This happens regardless of the type of CD(I've tried 4 different ones)or the software I use. It can play music or games or install software just fine. I'm running a Dell 8100 with Windows2K SP3 and the CD-RW is a NEC NR-7800A. Oddly enuff, Dell posted a firm-ware upgrade on it's website for this burner, dated 11/20/02, but the link just gives a "file not found" error.Device manager says that it is working properly. I would appreciate any suggestions before I try to replace the unit. Dell support has been useless. Doyle Hirsch [log in to unmask] Do you want to signoff PCBUILD or just change to Digest mode - visit our web site: http://freepctech.com/pcbuild.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 13:26:56 -0800 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Minson Ngo <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: PC boot problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Error Message "Invalid System Disk" After Setup Reboots The information in this article applies to: a.. Microsoft Windows 95 b.. Microsoft Windows 98 This article was previously published under Q128730 SYMPTOMS During the first reboot in Windows Setup, you may receive the following error message: Invalid system disk Replace the disk, and then press any key You may also receive this error message when you start your computer by using a Windows Startup disk, or you may receive the following error message: This version of Windows does not run on DOS 7.0 or earlier. CAUSE This issue can be caused by any of the following conditions: a.. Your computer may be infected with a boot-sector virus such as the AntiCMOS.A virus. b.. Your computer is running an anti-virus program. c.. Your computer is using hard disk management software (such as Disk Manager, EZ-Drive, or DrivePro) for hard disk geometry translation. These tools provide support for large hard disks (more than 1024 cylinders) when your computer's Basic Input/Output System (BIOS) does not support large hard disks. d.. Windows Setup was unable to copy the system files to the hard disk. e.. Security software has disabled access to drive C. RESOLUTION Use one of the following methods to correct the problem. Computer Is Infected with a Virus Use an anti-virus program to detect and remove the virus, and then reinstall Windows. Boot-sector viruses infect computers by copying information either to the boot sector on a floppy disk or the partition table on a hard disk. During startup, the virus is loaded into memory. Once in memory, the virus typically infects any non-infected disks that your computer is connected to. Computer Is Running Anti-Virus Software Start your computer by using the Windows Startup disk you created during Windows Setup, and then use the sys command from the Windows Startup disk to restore the system files to the hard disk. Some computers use built-in anti-virus software that must be disabled in the computer's BIOS. For information about how to change settings in the BIOS, view the computer's documentation or contact the manufacturer of your computer. Computer Is Using Disk Management Software In some cases, Windows may not properly detect that you are using disk management software and may overwrite the master boot record (MBR) information. Refer to the documentation for the disk management software you are using for information about restoring the MBR. Also, check the Setuplog.txt file for the following statement: FSLog: BIOS Heads=:64:, BootPart Heads=:64: The preceding number (64 in this example) may vary from computer to computer. If these two numbers are different, replace the system files on your hard disk according to the instructions in the following "Reinstall the Windows System Files" section. For additional information about how to determine if your computer is using a drive overlay program, click the article number below to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base: 186057 How to Tell If Drive Overlay Program Is Installed in Windows Reinstall the Windows System Files WARNING: If you are using Disk Manager or any other disk drive overlay program on a hard disk, make sure that the overlay driver is loaded before you use the sys command on that hard disk. If the overlay driver is not loaded and you use the sys command on the hard disk, the drive may not be recognized as being partitioned by the disk drive overlay program and you could experience loss of data or an inability to boot from the drive. Although you can use the sys command with Ontrack Disk Manager and later versions of MicroHouse EZ-Drive (or EZ-Max) after the overlay driver is loaded, earlier versions such as EZ-Drive 2.01s require that operating system files be copied to the overlay installation disk and installed by the overlay utility. In such cases, the overlay may be damaged if you use the sys command on the hard disk. 1.. Start your computer by using the Windows 95 or Windows 98 Startup disk. 2.. At the command prompt, type the following commands, pressing ENTER after each command: c: cd\windows\command attrib c:\msdos.sys -s -h -r copy c:\msdos.sys c:\msdos.xxx a: sys c: attrib c:\msdos.sys -s -h -r del c:\msdos.sys copy c:\msdos.xxx c:\msdos.sys attrib c:\msdos.sys +s +h +r 3.. Remove the Windows Startup disk, and then restart the computer. Security Software Enabled Some third-party programs prevent (lock) access to hard disks in your computer. If this software is installed, contact the manufacturer about how to remove this software and safely restart Windows 98 Setup. For additional information about Windows Setup and troubleshooting steps, click the article number below to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base: 129260 Windows 95 Setup: Description and Troubleshooting Steps Do you want to signoff PCBUILD or just change to Digest mode - visit our web site: http://freepctech.com/pcbuild.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 11:28:54 -0600 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Grabb <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Monitor Problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am new to this group and have a question. I am definitely not a hardware expert and need your help. I have a Dell PC with a Dell UltraScan P991 Color monitor. All of a sudden today I am getting horizontal light gray lines across my screen everywhere there is a line of text. And my color seems a bit off -- red isn't really red, etc. I have checked everything that I know to check. I even got out my documentation but that didn't help. Has anyone seen this happen before? On another note, my documentation says that my resolution should be set at 85 Hz (It is set to 75). I cannot find where to change this. Thanks in advance for any help. Debbie Grabb Do you want to signoff PCBUILD or just change to Digest mode - visit our web site: http://freepctech.com/pcbuild.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 12:44:09 -0800 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Ted 5098 <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Monitor Problem In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii To reset the Hz settings, right click on the desktop in an unused area, choose properties. Click on the advanced... button and then choose the monitor tab at the top of the window. You can then use the drop down arrow to change this setting. Here at work we use the 60Hz setting. Sometimes this will help prolong the fact that your P-991 is going out. With over 100 Dell monitors here we loose one of the older P991's every 4 months or so once they are 3 or more years old. Hope this helps...start saving for a LCD monitor. Ted Gamin OFIS Tech Support State of Michigan--- > I am new to this group and have a question. > I have a Dell PC with a Dell UltraScan P991 Color > monitor. All of a sudden > today I am getting horizontal light gray lines > across my screen everywhere > there is a line of text. And my color seems a bit > off -- red isn't really > red, etc. I have checked everything that I know to > check. I even got out my > documentation but that didn't help. > > Has anyone seen this happen before? > > On another note, my documentation says that my > resolution should be set at > 85 Hz (It is set to 75). I cannot find where to > change this. > > Thanks in advance for any help. > Debbie Grabb > > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Do you want to signoff PCBUILD or just change to Digest mode - visit our web site: http://freepctech.com/pcbuild.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 13:26:06 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: "Besaw, Dean" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: AMD 1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" It's actually smart on AMD's part. It is true that an AMD running at 1.3 Ghz will run as fast as, or even outperform, an Intel chip running at 1.5 Ghz. This is because clock speed should not be confused with processing power. AMD's chips have a much higher IPC (instructions per cycle) count. Simply put, AMD does more with less. It can do more instructions for each cycle than can an Intel chip. There for instead of trying to convince the consumer that an Athlon 1.3 Ghz is faster than an Intel 1.5 Ghz, they just started called them Athlon 1300, 1500, etc... -----Original Message----- From: Joe Lore [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 5:01 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [PCBUILD] AMD 1200 Hi, AMD CPU's no longer are numbered by the actual speed the chip runs at, but rather at what equivalent INTEL cpus speed is most favorably compares to. This is because AMD says there ore other factors than speed that determine how fast a CPU really is. Confused yet? Should be, it's kind of like a shell game because they can't win on the raw cpu speed issue, so they changed the way the game is played to favor themselves. example: the amd xp1500+ really runs at 1.33ghz. (266 hhz bus) sorry that is the only one I have handy to compare with At 09:39 AM 12/19/2002 +0200, you wrote: >Hello; >Iwant to ask about the AMD duron 1200+ Pro if it is an 1200Mhz cpu or not and if any body can help me finding the specifications of Elite motherboard k7sem with AMD Duron 1200+ cpu onboard >thanks > > The NOSPIN Group is now offering Free PC Tech > support at our newest website: > http://freepctech.com > God Bless America! Joe Lore MicroComputerCenter, Inc. 781-933-5530 / [log in to unmask] Do you want to signoff PCBUILD or just change to Digest mode - visit our web site: http://freepctech.com/pcbuild.shtml Do you want to signoff PCBUILD or just change to Digest mode - visit our web site: http://freepctech.com/pcbuild.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 14:15:04 -0700 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Larry Fisk <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: CD Burning MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Doyle; try here for the firmware upgrade: http://forum.firmware-flash.com/dl_firmware.php?category=6&manufactor=23 Your burner may be toast, but it would hurt to up the firmware. You might get a friend to try it in another computer. <>< Larry Fisk Fisk Computers Fruitvale, Idaho ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doyle Hirsch" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2002 3:18 PM Subject: [PCBUILD] CD Burning > My CD-RW has stopped burning CD's. Whenever I insert a CD and try to burn either a data or an audio CD it returns the message: Software(Windows Media,Nero, EasyCD Creator) has encountered an " unknown error". The disk then ejects.This happens regardless of the type of CD(I've tried 4 different ones)or the software I use. It can play music or games or install software just fine. > I'm running a Dell 8100 with Windows2K SP3 and the CD-RW is a NEC NR-7800A. Oddly enuff, Dell posted a firm-ware upgrade on it's Do you want to signoff PCBUILD or just change to Digest mode - visit our web site: http://freepctech.com/pcbuild.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 16:31:09 -0600 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Grabb <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Monitor Problem In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When I go to Properties, Advanced..., my only choice is a wizard to find the most current driver. Is there another place to change this setting? Thanks for your reply! Debbie -----Original Message----- From: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Ted 5098 Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 2:44 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [PCBUILD] Monitor Problem To reset the Hz settings, right click on the desktop in an unused area, choose properties. Click on the advanced... button and then choose the monitor tab at the top of the window. You can then use the drop down arrow to change this setting. Here at work we use the 60Hz setting. Sometimes this will help prolong the fact that your P-991 is going out. With over 100 Dell monitors here we loose one of the older P991's every 4 months or so once they are 3 or more years old. Hope this helps...start saving for a LCD monitor. Ted Gamin OFIS Tech Support State of Michigan--- > I am new to this group and have a question. > I have a Dell PC with a Dell UltraScan P991 Color > monitor. All of a sudden > today I am getting horizontal light gray lines > across my screen everywhere > there is a line of text. And my color seems a bit > off -- red isn't really > red, etc. I have checked everything that I know to > check. I even got out my > documentation but that didn't help. > > Has anyone seen this happen before? > > On another note, my documentation says that my > resolution should be set at > 85 Hz (It is set to 75). I cannot find where to > change this. > > Thanks in advance for any help. > Debbie Grabb > > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Do you want to signoff PCBUILD or just change to Digest mode - visit our web site: http://freepctech.com/pcbuild.shtml Do you want to signoff PCBUILD or just change to Digest mode - visit our web site: http://freepctech.com/pcbuild.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 17:24:36 -0800 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Brad Loomis <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Monitor Problem X-cc: [log in to unmask] In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Debbie, I would check to see if your monitor is actually installed in the device manager. Hold the windows key, then press Pause-Break to get to device manager. Click Device mgr. tab, click the + next to monitor and see if it indeed says Dell P991 or such. If not you can change from there. I Believe that that monitor is listed on the Windows hardware list so you should be able to find it under Dell as the manufacturer. After getting that right you may then be able to change the settings as was suggested before from the desktop. Good luck. Brad Loomis Morro Bay, CA -----Original Message----- I am new to this group and have a question. I am definitely not a hardware expert and need your help. I have a Dell PC with a Dell UltraScan P991 Color monitor. All of a sudden today I am getting horizontal light gray lines across my screen everywhere there is a line of text. And my color seems a bit off -- red isn't really red, etc. I have checked everything that I know to check. I even got out my documentation but that didn't help. Has anyone seen this happen before? On another note, my documentation says that my resolution should be set at 85 Hz (It is set to 75). I cannot find where to change this. Thanks in advance for any help. Debbie Grabb Do you want to signoff PCBUILD or just change to Digest mode - visit our web site: http://freepctech.com/pcbuild.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 13:12:42 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Dean Besaw <[log in to unmask]> Subject: PCI system management bus conflict I am running windows 98 and recently upgraded my motherboard and cpu to a Gigabyte GA7DXE with an Athlon XP 1600. I was able to boot up and resolve all the the conflicts (in device manager) by loading the drivers from the CD's of the installed cards and the motherboard utility disk. I have one conflict left that I cannot resolve. I have a yellow "!" next to the PCI System Management Bus which is listed under "Other Devices". My motherboard manual says it recommends flashing the BIOS if I'm running Win 95 or Win 98. It tells me the steps to choose when each screen pops up. I started to go through the steps but the screens do not match what the manual is stating. I have not flashed a BIOS before and I don't want to "guess" and what I'm supposed to do next. I was wondering if anyone could help me with the conflict I'm having or with the flash proceedure. I have not been successful, despite repeated attempts at getting any help from Gigabyte Tech Support. I haven't even been able to reach a human as of yet...only voice mails which have gone un-returned. Your help is much appreciated. Dean Besaw The NOSPIN Group is now offering Free PC Tech support at our newest website: http://freepctech.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 12:22:47 -0800 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Rosie Richter <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: CD Burning In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm not an expert but I have had similar problems with my CD burner. I found that totally removing the software and reinstalling it solved the problem. Hope that helps, Rosie Richter Doyle Hirsch <[log in to unmask]> wrote:My CD-RW has stopped burning CD's. Whenever I insert a CD and try to burn either a data or an audio CD it returns the message: Software(Windows Media,Nero, EasyCD Creator) has encountered an " unknown error". The disk then ejects.This happens regardless of the type of CD(I've tried 4 different ones)or the software I use. It can play music or games or install software just fine. I'm running a Dell 8100 with Windows2K SP3 and the CD-RW is a NEC NR-7800A. Oddly enuff, Dell posted a firm-ware upgrade on it's website for this burner, dated 11/20/02, but the link just gives a "file not found" error.Device manager says that it is working properly. I would appreciate any suggestions before I try to replace the unit. Dell support has been useless. Doyle Hirsch [log in to unmask] Do you want to signoff PCBUILD or just change to Digest mode - visit our web site: http://freepctech.com/pcbuild.shtml --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now The NOSPIN Group is now offering Free PC Tech support at our newest website: http://freepctech.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 19:21:44 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Liz Catron <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Bad floppy disk help MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi=20 I want to say thanks to all the input I recieved about my problem. I = tryed=20 to install the porgram on a friends machine and it didnt work, same = error=20 message. I guess the floppy was bad. The company did send me the program = over the net. I didnt like waiting for it but that's life. Program is up = and=20 running and Im a happy camper again!=20 Happy Holiday to all!=20 Liz Catron=20 http://community.webshots.com/user/lizcat101 My 2003 Rotation:Mermaid = Heaven by Pinn (focus), Fairy Flora Mirabilia, Mice Sewing byHeirloom = Treasure, In the Arms of an Angel L&L, Midsummer Night's Fairy, = Mirabilia, The Bride and Shroom Dimples, Under the Friendship Tree = Mirabilia. My 2002 Finishes: The Dreamer. The NOSPIN Group is now offering Free PC Tech support at our newest website: http://freepctech.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 14:01:40 -0800 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: James Maki <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: AMD 1200 In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I believe it is the new AMD Athlon XP chips that use the performance rating rather than the raw CPU speed. I have an AMD Duron 1.3 GHz that is running at 1.3 GHz (6.5 multiplier and 200 mHz FSB). Jim [log in to unmask] > -----Original Message----- > From: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Joe Lore > Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 2:01 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [PCBUILD] AMD 1200 > > > Hi, > > AMD CPU's no longer are numbered by the actual speed the chip runs at, but > rather at what equivalent INTEL cpus speed is most favorably compares to. > This is because AMD says there ore other factors than speed that determine > how fast a CPU really is. > > Confused yet? Should be, it's kind of like a shell game because > they can't > win on the raw cpu speed issue, so they changed the way the game is played > to favor themselves. > > example: > > the amd xp1500+ really runs at 1.33ghz. (266 hhz bus) > > sorry that is the only one I have handy to compare with > > > > > At 09:39 AM 12/19/2002 +0200, you wrote: > >Hello; > >Iwant to ask about the AMD duron 1200+ Pro if it is an 1200Mhz cpu or not > and if any body can help me finding the specifications of Elite > motherboard > k7sem with AMD Duron 1200+ cpu onboard > >thanks > > > God Bless America! > > Joe Lore > MicroComputerCenter, Inc. > 781-933-5530 / [log in to unmask] > The NOSPIN Group is now offering Free PC Tech support at our newest website: http://freepctech.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 02:25:22 +0100 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Goran Halfvarson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Memory from laptop 64MB SoDIMM for Compaq In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello list! I have a spare 64MB SoDIMM (probably PC100) memory chip. Does anyone know if it will fit a Compaq Presario 1200? The memory chip comes from an Acer laptop. I need your answers today, please. With best regards, Göran Halfvarson, Sweden The NOSPIN Group is now offering Free PC Tech support at our newest website: http://freepctech.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 13:40:48 -0800 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Peter Shkabara <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Hard Disk errors MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello again folks. Christmas was nice and I got my new computer running - I am writing this using the new machine. Now there is a new problem to be solved. The computer often starts up with chkdsk on bootup. Once it even required an OS reinstall because it kept giving me a blue screen. I think I solved the blue screen problem by installing new drivers. Here is my setup: Intel D845PEBT2 motherboard with P4 2.4GB and 512MB PC2700 RAM Dual Western Digital D800 80G drives with 8MB cache Drives connected as RAID 1 to Silicon Image controller on motherboard using Iwill I2S IDE to SATA adaptors O/S is Windows XP with SP1 installed I am suspecting that the 8MB cache on the drives is contributing to the problem. That is, not all writes are done during shutdown before the computer is turned off. I use the shutdown of XP and it turns off the motherboard power. Here are a couple of questions: 1. How can I ensure that XP is not using delay writes? I remember it was a big issue with Win98. 2. How can the motherboard (or XP) be set so that power is not turned off when XP shuts down? Any other ideas to check out would be welcome. So far, I have not had any fatal problems, but when disk errors get reported after a shutdown, I worry! Peter [log in to unmask] The NOSPIN Group is now offering Free PC Tech support at our newest website: http://freepctech.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 16:42:58 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Rick Glazier <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: PCI system management bus conflict X-cc: [log in to unmask] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'd say finish the BIOS flash first... The other problems may be "better" or even go away later... (It is "no doubt" an enumeration issue -- and driver problems from similar, but different chipsets that Windows is "going crazy" over trying to ID correctly...) Most MB sites (good ones anyway) have LOTS of info about flashing the BIOS. And LOTS of warnings to do it exactly right... Basically, it involves several steps. (Do NOT use this info instead of what the manufactures WEB site "should" be saying...) 1) Identify the Mother Board exactly. Right down to the version and/or revision number (in some cases...) 2) Get the EXACT Flash file for your EXACT mother board. 3) Get the proper version of the Flash utility, (if necessary). Note that sometimes there is only one file, one ZIP archive, or even a Windows version of the flash utility (or entire package). 4) Depending on all of the above, put the proper files on a "clean boot" Boot Floppy... Be sure to find out what that is, if you do not know... You want the floppy as empty as possible and nothing loaded in "RAM" that should not be there, (or is not necessary...) 5) See if there are any special instructions for your flash file... I have had boards (low quality ones) that say to ignore the error message that "you have the WRONG file"... I consider that VERY poor practice for a manufacturer to do it that way... (But they do, and it can scare you unless you are expecting it...) 6) Be sure back up the old flash from the BIOS to the floppy (if asked). 7) Do not disturb the process in any way after it starts... This includes having a reliable source of power... (A UPS is good at a time like this...) 8) If the flash fails, DO NOT TURN OFF the computer... The BOOT files are in RAM and the BIOS may be VERY unstable... You may not get a second chance if the computer is shut off --- unless the operation finished... (This never happened to me.,) 9) Read my/ALL Disclaimer(s): I never had ANY trouble doing this, so my troubleshooting skills in this area are slight... The potential of an exceptional disaster are VERY REAL, so get and follow all SPECIFIC instructions that you can for your board. If you can't get good SPECIFIC instructions, do NOT start... Good luck, It should be a piece of cake... Takes a couple minutes at most... (Some of the newer programs even show a map of the memory areas they are changing in the BIOS so you can have a picture "show" about what it is doing... Rick Glazier From: "Dean Besaw" <[log in to unmask]> My motherboard manual says it recommends flashing the BIOS if I'm running Win 95 or Win 98. It tells me the steps to choose when each screen pops up. I started to go through the steps but the screens do not match what the manual is stating. I have not flashed a BIOS before and I don't want to "guess" and what I'm supposed to do next. I was wondering if anyone could help me with the conflict I'm having or with the flash proceedure. The NOSPIN Group is now offering Free PC Tech support at our newest website: http://freepctech.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 12:43:59 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Joe Lore <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: AMD 1200 In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask] blxint.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi, I fully understand the concept. It was tried years ago by them along with the Cyrix/IBM chips. I just think anything that confuses the consumer, is not good for the consumer. I don't rememeber seeing any long term adverising program from AMD educating the public about the naming change, do you? At 01:26 PM 12/26/2002 -0500, you wrote: >It's actually smart on AMD's part. It is true that an AMD running at 1.3 >Ghz will run as fast as, or even outperform, an Intel chip running at 1.5 >Ghz. This is because clock speed should not be confused with processing >power. AMD's chips have a much higher IPC (instructions per cycle) count. >Simply put, AMD does more with less. It can do more instructions for each >cycle than can an Intel chip. There for instead of trying to convince the >consumer that an Athlon 1.3 Ghz is faster than an Intel 1.5 Ghz, they just >started called them Athlon 1300, 1500, etc... > >-----Original Message----- >From: Joe Lore [mailto:[log in to unmask]] >Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 5:01 PM >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: [PCBUILD] AMD 1200 > > >Hi, > >AMD CPU's no longer are numbered by the actual speed the chip runs at, but >rather at what equivalent INTEL cpus speed is most favorably compares to. >This is because AMD says there ore other factors than speed that determine >how fast a CPU really is. > >Confused yet? Should be, it's kind of like a shell game because they can't >win on the raw cpu speed issue, so they changed the way the game is played >to favor themselves. > >example: > >the amd xp1500+ really runs at 1.33ghz. (266 hhz bus) > >sorry that is the only one I have handy to compare with > > > > >At 09:39 AM 12/19/2002 +0200, you wrote: >>Hello; >>Iwant to ask about the AMD duron 1200+ Pro if it is an 1200Mhz cpu or not >and if any body can help me finding the specifications of Elite motherboard >k7sem with AMD Duron 1200+ cpu onboard >>thanks >> >> The NOSPIN Group is now offering Free PC Tech >> support at our newest website: >> http://freepctech.com >> >God Bless America! > >Joe Lore >MicroComputerCenter, Inc. >781-933-5530 / [log in to unmask] > > Do you want to signoff PCBUILD or just change to > Digest mode - visit our web site: > http://freepctech.com/pcbuild.shtml > > Do you want to signoff PCBUILD or just change to > Digest mode - visit our web site: > http://freepctech.com/pcbuild.shtml > God Bless America! Joe Lore MicroComputerCenter, Inc. 781-933-5530 / [log in to unmask] The NOSPIN Group is now offering Free PC Tech support at our newest website: http://freepctech.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 07:44:21 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Barry Keith Tyler <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Radeon 32mb pci vga tv out ntsc On Tue, 24 Dec 2002 19:53:03 -0500, Jim Prettyman <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >Hello list: > Can someone help me find a driver for this video card? > Radeon 32mb pci vga tv out ntsc. #1027570401 >Thanks in advance >Jim Prettyman >[log in to unmask] > > >--------------------------------------------- You will find a driver here that will be suitable, your card is probably a Radeon-VE or equivalent. http://mirror.ati.com/support/drivers/powered.html The NOSPIN Group is now offering Free PC Tech support at our newest website: http://freepctech.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 15:04:12 -0800 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Peter Shkabara <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: S.M.A.R.T. hard drive message In-Reply-To: <000701c2ab45$290aec30$2a030e0a@lucia> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As best I can tell, the SMART is enabled on both computers. I ran the MaxBlaster diagnostic software and even in the full test mode it reports that the drive is fine. The Intel motherboard, however, insists that the drive is about to fail. Does Intel have something against Maxtor? Peter [log in to unmask] -----Original Message----- First thing I would do is go to the Maxtor site, download and run their MaxBlast utility and test the drive, The SMART was probably turned off on your other setup. The SMART circuitry is supposed to predict faliure before it happens so you can get your data off before you loose it. Self-Monitoring, Analysis and Reporting Technology Here is a random site I pulled up on Google that can explain more: http://www.ariolic.com/activesmart/ . In my experience, this technology is very reliable and I always turn it on in any machine I work on. Howard Rubin Fortaleza, Brazil Peter wrote: In migrating my files to my new P4 computer, I temporarily connected my Maxtor 40G hard drive to the new board. During booting, I got a SMART message saying that the drive was reporting an error and that I should backup the data and replace the drive. I never got this message on my The NOSPIN Group is now offering Free PC Tech support at our newest website: http://freepctech.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 16:54:30 -0600 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: AL Kohout <[log in to unmask]> Subject: need sacanner driver! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit anyone know where I might find a driver for WIN98??? the scanner is the Visoneer paperportVX Thank you! Al ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com The NOSPIN Group is now offering Free PC Tech support at our newest website: http://freepctech.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 07:24:57 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: KNOX <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: need sacanner driver! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You can find all the drivers you will ever need at driverguide.com it's free and easy to use. Larry Knox ----- Original Message ----- From: "AL Kohout" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 5:54 PM Subject: [PCBUILD] need sacanner driver! > anyone know where I might find a driver for WIN98??? > > the scanner is the Visoneer paperportVX > > Thank you! > > Al > > ________________________________________________________________ > Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today > Only $9.95 per month! > Visit www.juno.com > > The NOSPIN Group is now offering Free PC Tech > support at our newest website: > http://freepctech.com > > The NOSPIN Group is now offering Free PC Tech support at our newest website: http://freepctech.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 17:07:48 -0800 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Brad Loomis <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: S.M.A.R.T. hard drive message X-cc: [log in to unmask] In-Reply-To: <000001c2adfc$4a8a80f0$0100a8c0@vasya> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Peter, I had to scratch my head where I read this then it struck me that it was at Steve Gibson's site in the FAQ for Spin Rite. http://grc.com/srQ&A.htm A short way down the page he talks about S.M.A.R.T. and doesn't seem, to think it is. Not a solution for your issue, but a possible clue. Brad Loomis Morro Bay, CA -----Original Message----- As best I can tell, the SMART is enabled on both computers. I ran the MaxBlaster diagnostic software and even in the full test mode it reports that the drive is fine. The Intel motherboard, however, insists that the drive is about to fail. Does Intel have something against Maxtor? Peter [log in to unmask] The NOSPIN Group is now offering Free PC Tech support at our newest website: http://freepctech.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 21:35:21 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: joseph marty <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: need sacanner driver! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I went to www.visioneer.com and found the VX driver at this URL: http://www.visioneer.com/support/legacy/sheetfeddownload.stm AL Kohout <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >anyone know where I might find a driver for WIN98??? > >the scanner is the Visoneer paperportVX __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ The NOSPIN Group is now offering Free PC Tech support at our newest website: http://freepctech.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 12:35:44 -0800 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: David Gillett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: AMD 1200 In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 23 Dec 2002, at 17:00, Joe Lore wrote: > AMD CPU's no longer are numbered by the actual speed the chip runs at, but > rather at what equivalent INTEL cpus speed is most favorably compares to. > This is because AMD says there ore other factors than speed that determine > how fast a CPU really is. > > Confused yet? Should be, it's kind of like a shell game because they can't > win on the raw cpu speed issue, so they changed the way the game is played > to favor themselves. > > example: > > the amd xp1500+ really runs at 1.33ghz. (266 hhz bus) > > sorry that is the only one I have handy to compare with 1.33ghz is not a "speed", it is a *clock frequency*. In general, ALL ELSE BEING EQUAL, a CPU running at a higher clock frequency will execute more instructions in a given time period. But this is like saying that a car whose engine is running at more rpm (revolutions per minute) will cover ground faster than one at fewer rpm. Factors like transmission gear ratio and outside tire diameter figure into the translation of engine rpm to ground covered -- a car in neutral can rev and rev and not move at all! ("All computers wait at the same speed.") > This is because AMD says there ore other factors than speed that determine > how fast a CPU really is. No, speed is speed. AMD says there are other factors than raw *clock frequency* that determine how fast a CPU really is. And they "can't win on raw [clock frequency]" because CPUs that run on the same clock frequency cost about the same to produce, even if one will actually get work done faster. Now, on the flip side, most of us don't have the expertise in CPU design to really assess those other factors, nor the sort of benchmarking labs that would allow us to measure it. So when AMD says their CPU that runs on a 1.33 ghz clock will execute our programs as quickly as Intel's 1.5 ghz chip, they may be exaggerating. So consumers are well advised to do their homework, looking for third- party performance lab results which hopefully subject the claims on both sides to some objective verification. The NOSPIN Group Promotions is now offering Mandrake Linux or Red Hat Linux CD sets along with the OpenOffice CD... at a great price!!! http://freepctech.com/goodies/promotions.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 22:59:42 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Rick Glazier <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Radeon 32mb pci vga tv out ntsc X-cc: [log in to unmask] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Look around the ATI site for All-inWonder drivers. ATI will also tell you how to identify if it is their chipset or card... It is a long shot, but worth the look... Rick Glazier From: "Jim Prettyman" <[log in to unmask]> > Hello list: > Can someone help me find a driver for this video card? > Radeon 32mb pci vga tv out ntsc. #1027570401 The NOSPIN Group Promotions is now offering Mandrake Linux or Red Hat Linux CD sets along with the OpenOffice CD... at a great price!!! http://freepctech.com/goodies/promotions.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 15:45:25 -0700 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Kevin Brown <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Radeon 32mb pci vga tv out ntsc In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What OS? And is it a proprietary computer? KevPro Computer Services "If your computer doesn't work I do." Kevin Brown 602-859-0085 http://kevpro.com -----Original Message----- From: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Barry Keith Tyler Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 5:44 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [PCBUILD] Radeon 32mb pci vga tv out ntsc On Tue, 24 Dec 2002 19:53:03 -0500, Jim Prettyman <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >Hello list: > Can someone help me find a driver for this video card? > Radeon 32mb pci vga tv out ntsc. #1027570401 >Thanks in advance >Jim Prettyman >[log in to unmask] > > >--------------------------------------------- You will find a driver here that will be suitable, your card is probably a Radeon-VE or equivalent. http://mirror.ati.com/support/drivers/powered.html The NOSPIN Group is now offering Free PC Tech support at our newest website: http://freepctech.com The NOSPIN Group Promotions is now offering Mandrake Linux or Red Hat Linux CD sets along with the OpenOffice CD... at a great price!!! http://freepctech.com/goodies/promotions.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 11:25:32 -0800 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Minson Ngo <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Memory from laptop 64MB SoDIMM for Compaq MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You did not give us enough information about the laptop. The 1200 is just the name of the series that your laptop falls in. To be more specific you need the model number of your laptop. I did a little research and found that the majority of the laptops in the 1200 series uses pc100 sodimms. So you can add the 64mb chip that you have into the laptop. It should work just fine. Good luck! The NOSPIN Group Promotions is now offering Mandrake Linux or Red Hat Linux CD sets along with the OpenOffice CD... at a great price!!! http://freepctech.com/goodies/promotions.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 17:16:30 -1000 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: David Farrington <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: need sacanner driver! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You might try looking here: http://www.visioneer.com/support/legacy/sheetfeddownload.stm AL Kohout wrote: >anyone know where I might find a driver for WIN98??? > >the scanner is the Visoneer paperportVX > > The NOSPIN Group Promotions is now offering Mandrake Linux or Red Hat Linux CD sets along with the OpenOffice CD... at a great price!!! http://freepctech.com/goodies/promotions.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 19:35:32 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Jim Prettyman <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Radeon 32mb pci vga tv out ntsc In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks for your reply, I have previously visited that site and cannot get it to work. I need driver for Win 98se. Seems this card wants its own driver. Thanks At 07:44 AM 12/27/02 -0500, you wrote: >On Tue, 24 Dec 2002 19:53:03 -0500, Jim Prettyman <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >>Hello list: >> Can someone help me find a driver for this video card? >> Radeon 32mb pci vga tv out ntsc. #1027570401 >>Thanks in advance >>Jim Prettyman >>[log in to unmask] >> >> >>--------------------------------------------- > >You will find a driver here that will be suitable, your card is probably a Radeon-VE or equivalent. >http://mirror.ati.com/support/drivers/powered.html > > The NOSPIN Group is now offering Free PC Tech > support at our newest website: > http://freepctech.com > > --------------------------------------------- Introducing NetZero Long Distance 1st month Free! Sign up today at: www.netzerolongdistance.com The NOSPIN Group Promotions is now offering Mandrake Linux or Red Hat Linux CD sets along with the OpenOffice CD... at a great price!!! http://freepctech.com/goodies/promotions.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 06:31:59 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: "Capt. Zyla" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: After adding network card computer hangs on shutdown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I recently added a nic card (3com) to my computer. The Nic works fine now but I developed a new problem. When I shutdown windows 98 it hangs at the screen that says it is shutting down. It never powers off the computer like it used to. I also note, but this could be my imagination that the sound seems choppy at times. Don't know if the two are related. Any ideas on where to look for this problem? thanks; John -- John M. Zyla email: [log in to unmask] http://www.smart.net/~captzyla |\ ,| \ A ship in harbor is safe-- /_|__\ but that is not what ships are for. \~~| John A. 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Brad Loomis Morro Bay, CA -----Original Message----- A friend's PC is failing to boot. The hard disk is identified quite alright but after that it gives an " invalid disk replace and press any key to continue" error message. Pressing a key does not solve anything. One interesting thing is that it cant even boot with boot disketes. I did set the boot sequence starting with A: then C: The PC is 486, win 95, 24MB RAM and 800 MB disk space. Chilangisha Changwe The NOSPIN Group Promotions is now offering Mandrake Linux or Red Hat Linux CD sets along with the OpenOffice CD... at a great price!!! http://freepctech.com/goodies/promotions.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 15:39:08 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Rick <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: CD Burning MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My Brother uses Roxio ECDC and updated his Windows Media Player ( Win 98) and his Burner quit for no reason. He uninstall the windows update and Roxio ECDC , Reinstalled Roxio and it fixed it. The Roxio Easy CD Creator has a regular help page that I will attach the address to. After reading it for a while if you had not already bought your copy you probably would not. I have it with the updates to 5.3 on my computer running Win XP Home and it works flawless no complaints at all. Before you go buy a new burner you might go look at the Roxio address I am attaching and post your problem there. http://support.roxio.com/en/support/roxio_support/discussions/index.jhtml;js essionid=W05QNQKQVTBWNLAQAMGR3KVMCACAWIV0?_requestid=1403324 Rick Fowler, In. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doyle Hirsch" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2002 5:18 PM Subject: [PCBUILD] CD Burning > My CD-RW has stopped burning CD's. Whenever I insert a CD and try to burn either a data or an audio CD it returns the message: Software(Windows Media,Nero, EasyCD Creator) has encountered an " unknown error". The disk then ejects.This happens regardless of the type of CD(I've tried 4 different ones)or the software I use. It can play music or games or install software just fine. > > I'm running a Dell 8100 with Windows2K SP3 and the CD-RW is a NEC NR-7800A. Oddly enuff, Dell posted a firm-ware upgrade on it's website for this burner, dated 11/20/02, but the link just gives a "file not found" error.Device manager says that it is working properly. I would appreciate any suggestions before I try to replace the unit. Dell support has been useless. > > Doyle Hirsch > [log in to unmask] > > Do you want to signoff PCBUILD or just change to > Digest mode - visit our web site: > http://freepctech.com/pcbuild.shtml > The NOSPIN Group Promotions is now offering Mandrake Linux or Red Hat Linux CD sets along with the OpenOffice CD... at a great price!!! http://freepctech.com/goodies/promotions.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 18:38:25 +1100 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Ultra <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Hard Disk errors MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- > Hello again folks. Christmas was nice and I got my new computer running > - I am writing this using the new machine. Now there is a new problem to > be solved. The computer often starts up with chkdsk on bootup. Once it > even required an OS reinstall because it kept giving me a blue screen. I > think I solved the blue screen problem by installing new drivers. > > > > Here is my setup: > > Intel D845PEBT2 motherboard with P4 2.4GB and 512MB PC2700 RAM > > Dual Western Digital D800 80G drives with 8MB cache > > Drives connected as RAID 1 to Silicon Image controller on motherboard > using Iwill I2S IDE to SATA adaptors > > O/S is Windows XP with SP1 installed > > > > I am suspecting that the 8MB cache on the drives is contributing to the > problem. That is, not all writes are done during shutdown before the > computer is turned off. I use the shutdown of XP and it turns off the > motherboard power. the cache is not the problem, I'm pretty sure about it. something else goes wrong, and you have to find it before more damages are done. The only catch you should disable without a UPS is the "write cache" under device manager-> disk drives. What it does, is that win2k/xp can use a small amount of RAM to cache HDD write operation, to speed up system performance, under UPS protection, this is a good idea. However, without UPS, sudden lose of power may result data lost or file corruption. The cache is enabled by default, and MS recommend to turn it off if you don't have UPS. > > Here are a couple of questions: > 1. How can I ensure that XP is not using delay writes? I remember > it was a big issue with Win98. See my above answer. > 2. How can the motherboard (or XP) be set so that power is not > turned off when XP shuts down? You can install XP in standard mode (not ACPI), but you need to reinstall XP and ready to take the result (no more power saving), and possible hassle to set things up. > > Any other ideas to check out would be welcome. So far, I have not had > any fatal problems, but when disk errors get reported after a shutdown, > I worry From what you've said, I guess there is something seriously goes wrong. and I think it is the RAM (I've seen some DDR333 RAMs won't run at 333 on certain mobo). but be sure you have installed all the latest drivers before test things. My way to test RAM: 1) run some DOS based program like Simmtester or GoldMemory 2) if the RAM passed in few loops, then run Prime95 under windows, for at least 24 Hours, 48 hours is better, 'cos I've seen RAM problem been picked up at 30+ hours of Prime95. 3) if Prime95 shows nothing wrong, run 3Dmark 2001 SE (apply the patch), loop it, and let it go for another say at least 12 hours, 24 hours is recommended. The whole processing seems overkill but from my experience, some RAM problems are hard to pick up. step 1 is to ensure basic function under simple environment, step 2 is for easy to pick problems under working condition, but memory timing problems may not show up under Prime95, so that's where step 3 kicks in. Jun Qian The NOSPIN Group Promotions is now offering Mandrake Linux or Red Hat Linux CD sets along with the OpenOffice CD... at a great price!!! http://freepctech.com/goodies/promotions.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 09:37:51 -0600 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Dennis Noble <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: need sacanner driver! In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You might try http://www.visioneer.com/support/drivers.stm and look under Strobe Scanners then Legacy IX, MX, VX. Dennis Noble > anyone know where I might find a driver for WIN98??? > > the scanner is the Visoneer paperportVX The NOSPIN Group Promotions is now offering Mandrake Linux or Red Hat Linux CD sets along with the OpenOffice CD... at a great price!!! http://freepctech.com/goodies/promotions.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 17:27:35 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Rick Glazier <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Hard Disk errors X-cc: [log in to unmask] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In drive properties, (policies tab), shut off delayed writes. If your controller or card is showing up as SCSI, you might be missing the option to turn on or off delayed writes, or it might be pre-selected and greyed out... I do that for ALL drive that the drivers allow it... (no caching) Zip Drives are bad about this since they want to spool and return control to the OS, (and look faster...) Turn off ALL power management. If possible, change your HAL... Force a generic one with no power management. I was surprised when I did that with XP-Pro and an ATX case, and it (the case) would not shut off... (You may have to do a re-install to change the HAL, I only did it in my original testing and burn-in, months ago...) To make testing easier, I generally clone the BOOT HD inside the same machine (since mine is already "C" it makes it a LOT easier...) and since the only "XP WPA thing" that changes is the Volume serial number of the HD, WPA does not trigger and I can "play" as much as I want and never worry... Keeping things in sync on HDs like this can become a problem though, so I am careful to keep track of what I do and or connect to... I store mail on the servers while playing (for example), and sync and erase it later... Rick Glazier From: "Peter Shkabara" <[log in to unmask]> 1. How can I ensure that XP is not using delay writes? I remember it was a big issue with Win98. 2. How can the motherboard (or XP) be set so that power is not turned off when XP shuts down? The NOSPIN Group Promotions is now offering Mandrake Linux or Red Hat Linux CD sets along with the OpenOffice CD... at a great price!!! http://freepctech.com/goodies/promotions.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 18:28:16 -0600 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: PAKO <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: need sacanner driver! In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 04:54 PM 12/27/2002 -0600, AL Kohout wrote: >anyone know where I might find a driver for WIN98??? > >the scanner is the Visoneer paperportVX http://www.scanner-drivers.com/companies/1122.htm Good luck! Patricia Osborne (314) 362-2554 or -2561 voice aka (314) 747-1772 fax {;-/) PAKO mailto:[log in to unmask] Saint Louis MO 63110-1095 USA The NOSPIN Group Promotions is now offering Mandrake Linux or Red Hat Linux CD sets along with the OpenOffice CD... at a great price!!! http://freepctech.com/goodies/promotions.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 18:48:46 -0800 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: jerry the fatboy crider <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: need sacanner driver! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit why aint that funny i was just looking up drivers for the visioneer, what modle is it ,i was looking for 8100,8600,and a 3300 well if u go to www.visioneer.com they got replacment cd/all u pay is shipping and handleing good luck jerry the fatboy crider ----- Original Message ----- From: "AL Kohout" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 2:54 PM Subject: [PCBUILD] need sacanner driver! > anyone know where I might find a driver for WIN98??? > > the scanner is the Visoneer paperportVX > > Thank you! > > Al > > ________________________________________________________________ > Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today > Only $9.95 per month! > Visit www.juno.com > > The NOSPIN Group is now offering Free PC Tech > support at our newest website: > http://freepctech.com The NOSPIN Group Promotions is now offering Mandrake Linux or Red Hat Linux CD sets along with the OpenOffice CD... at a great price!!! http://freepctech.com/goodies/promotions.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 23:08:29 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Rick Glazier <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: need sacanner driver! X-cc: [log in to unmask] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit See if this looks like it: http://www.visioneer.com/support/legacy/sheetfeddownload.stm Rick Glazier ----- Original Message ----- From: "AL Kohout" <[log in to unmask]> > anyone know where I might find a driver for WIN98??? > > the scanner is the Visoneer paperportVX The NOSPIN Group Promotions is now offering Mandrake Linux or Red Hat Linux CD sets along with the OpenOffice CD... at a great price!!! http://freepctech.com/goodies/promotions.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 10:47:59 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Don Weagant <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Radeon 32mb pci vga tv out ntsc In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask] > MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 24 Dec 2002, at 19:53, Jim Prettyman wrote: about [PCBUILD] Radeon 32mb pci vga tv out ntsc > Can someone help me find a driver for this video card? > Radeon 32mb pci vga tv out ntsc. #1027570401 www.ati.com......then click "find a driver" Don The NOSPIN Group Promotions is now offering Mandrake Linux or Red Hat Linux CD sets along with the OpenOffice CD... at a great price!!! http://freepctech.com/goodies/promotions.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 15:50:10 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: joseph marty <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: need sacanner driver! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit The downloads are free, just save them to a zip or a CD unless you have a broadband connection to the Internet. erry the fatboy crider <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >why aint that funny i was just looking up drivers for the visioneer, what >modle is it ,i was looking for 8100,8600,and a 3300 well if u go to >www.visioneer.com they got replacment cd/all u pay is shipping and handleing > __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ The NOSPIN Group Promotions is now offering Mandrake Linux or Red Hat Linux CD sets along with the OpenOffice CD... at a great price!!! http://freepctech.com/goodies/promotions.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 11:23:04 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Phil Benson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: need sacanner driver! In-Reply-To: <000001c2ae87$155e3a30$0100a8c0@OFFICE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dennis, This is the driver that you need. You may need to log onto the driverguide realm. Use driver as the login and all as the password. http://www2.driverguide.com/uploads/uploads10/16505.html Phil Benson Embroidery Nation http://www.embroiderynation.com/ -----Original Message----- From: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Dennis Noble Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 10:38 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [PCBUILD] need sacanner driver! You might try http://www.visioneer.com/support/drivers.stm and look under Strobe Scanners then Legacy IX, MX, VX. Dennis Noble > anyone know where I might find a driver for WIN98??? > > the scanner is the Visoneer paperportVX The NOSPIN Group Promotions is now offering Mandrake Linux or Red Hat Linux CD sets along with the OpenOffice CD... at a great price!!! http://freepctech.com/goodies/promotions.shtml The NOSPIN Group Promotions is now offering Mandrake Linux or Red Hat Linux CD sets along with the OpenOffice CD... at a great price!!! http://freepctech.com/goodies/promotions.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 10:55:11 -0300 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Howard Rubin <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: S.M.A.R.T. hard drive message At this point, if it is convenient, I would return the board, but if everything is running fine with no other anamolys, you can just turn off the SMART monitoring altogether in the BIOS setup. Another option, there is Windows software that can check the SMART circuitry or you could look for a newer flash, but if Maxtor MaxBlast says it is ok, then I wouldn´t worry about it. It has to be an odity (read:personality) with the motherboard. Howard Rubin Fortaleza, Brazil RE: Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 15:04:12 -0800 From: Peter Shkabara <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: S.M.A.R.T. hard drive message As best I can tell, the SMART is enabled on both computers. I ran the MaxBlaster diagnostic software and even in the full test mode it reports that the drive is fine. The Intel motherboard, however, insists that the drive is about to fail. Does Intel have something against Maxtor? Peter [log in to unmask] The NOSPIN Group Promotions is now offering Mandrake Linux or Red Hat Linux CD sets along with the OpenOffice CD... at a great price!!! http://freepctech.com/goodies/promotions.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 15:15:18 -0800 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Mike <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Beep code MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have an old machine with a Octek Rhino 15 MB and 128MB DIMM in slot = 1running a Cyrix 8x86 at 266mhz.Windows 95 is the OS.The machine worked = fine several months ago when I stole the video card from it.I have now = replaced the video card and can't get the machine to boot.There is a = completely blank screen and I am getting a long beep about 3 seconds = apart.The board has an Award bios with a new battery.I have stripped it = down to only the video card and hard drive with the OS on it. Any help is appreciated Mike Bridges The NOSPIN Group provides a monthly newsletter with great tips, information and ideas: NOSPIN-L, The NOSPIN Magazine Visit our web site to signup: http://freepctech.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 09:09:53 -0600 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: AL Kohout <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Suggestions for PHOTO printers? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello... Can anyone suggest a good photo printer for 4x6 sizes and up.... do we need to buy the kind with the dye-sub ink? This is strictly for use in making prints form videotape... Thanks! Al ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com The NOSPIN Group provides a monthly newsletter with great tips, information and ideas: NOSPIN-L, The NOSPIN Magazine Visit our web site to signup: http://freepctech.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 10:17:20 -0800 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Brad Loomis <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Suggestions for PHOTO printers? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Al, If you can find one, I'd suggest the Epson Photo 2200. I just love mine, and the prints are beautiful. Pricy, but worth it in consumables with 7 ink cartridges. You can do 4x6 on roll paper with the built in feeder and cutter. I was fortunate to get mine when they first came out, but since they have been a bit hard to come by due to high demand. http://www.inkjetart.com/EpsonStylusPhoto2200/status.html Brad Loomis Morro Bay, CA -----Original Message----- Hello... Can anyone suggest a good photo printer for 4x6 sizes and up.... do we need to buy the kind with the dye-sub ink? This is strictly for use in making prints form videotape... Thanks! Al The NOSPIN Group provides a monthly newsletter with great tips, information and ideas: NOSPIN-L, The NOSPIN Magazine Visit our web site to signup: http://freepctech.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 09:39:36 -0800 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: akram fazal <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Beep code In-Reply-To: <002101c2aec6$fd3a28c0$6501a8c0@MyDomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello, In my opinion the VGA card is not fixed properly in the slot or that VGA card is not working properly. Best wishes and regards. M. Akram Fazal Mike <[log in to unmask]> wrote:I have an old machine with a Octek Rhino 15 MB and 128MB DIMM in slot 1running a Cyrix 8x86 at 266mhz.Windows 95 is the OS.The machine worked fine several months ago when I stole the video card from it.I have now replaced the video card and can't get the machine to boot.There is a completely blank screen and I am getting a long beep about 3 seconds apart.The board has an Award bios with a new battery.I have stripped it down to only the video card and hard drive with the OS on it. Any help is appreciated Mike Bridges The NOSPIN Group provides a monthly newsletter with great tips, information and ideas: NOSPIN-L, The NOSPIN Magazine Visit our web site to signup: http://freepctech.com --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now The NOSPIN Group provides a monthly newsletter with great tips, information and ideas: NOSPIN-L, The NOSPIN Magazine Visit our web site to signup: http://freepctech.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 11:49:08 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: "Capt. Zyla" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Update on nic card windows 98 shutdown problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Windows 98 standard edition will not shutdown with the 3com 10/100 3c905c-tx pci card installed. It hangs on the screen windows is shutting down. If I disable this card in hardware profile it shutsdown fine. Just installed the latest drivers for this card and the same problem exists. Have not seen any solution to this problem posted anywhere, including 3com website.. If anyone has any ideas please post them. Outside of this the card works fine. John John M. Zyla [log in to unmask] http://www.smart.net/~captzyla |\ ,| \ A ship in harbor is safe-- /_|__\ but that is not what ships are for. \~~| John A. Shedd `~~~~~~~~* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * The NOSPIN Group provides a monthly newsletter with great tips, information and ideas: NOSPIN-L, The NOSPIN Magazine Visit our web site to signup: http://freepctech.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 11:54:48 -0600 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Dave Schroeder <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Beep code MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mike, Here is a site I found at one time and thank goodness I haven't needed it yet. It tells what the beeps are for. Hope you can use it. http://www.pchell.com/hardware/beepcodes.shtml Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 5:15 PM Subject: [PCBUILD] Beep code I have an old machine with a Octek Rhino 15 MB and 128MB DIMM in slot 1running a Cyrix 8x86 at 266mhz.Windows 95 is the OS.The machine worked fine several months ago when I stole the video card from it.I have now replaced the video card and can't get the machine to boot.There is a completely blank screen and I am getting a long beep about 3 seconds apart.The board has an Award bios with a new battery.I have stripped it down to only the video card and hard drive with the OS on it. Any help is appreciated Mike Bridges The NOSPIN Group provides a monthly newsletter with great tips, information and ideas: NOSPIN-L, The NOSPIN Magazine Visit our web site to signup: http://freepctech.com The NOSPIN Group provides a monthly newsletter with great tips, information and ideas: NOSPIN-L, The NOSPIN Magazine Visit our web site to signup: http://freepctech.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 01:27:15 -0000 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: michele sayer <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: need sacanner driver! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Have u tried www.driverguide.com ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "AL Kohout" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 10:54 PM Subject: [PCBUILD] need sacanner driver! > anyone know where I might find a driver for WIN98??? > > the scanner is the Visoneer paperportVX > > Thank you! > > Al > > ________________________________________________________________ > Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today > Only $9.95 per month! > Visit www.juno.com > > The NOSPIN Group is now offering Free PC Tech > support at our newest website: > http://freepctech.com The NOSPIN Group provides a monthly newsletter with great tips, information and ideas: NOSPIN-L, The NOSPIN Magazine Visit our web site to signup: http://freepctech.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 18:14:12 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: joseph marty <[log in to unmask]> Subject: PCBUILD: monitor problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit He meant the adapter tab, not the monitor tab. Change the setting on the adapter tab, which does have the described dropdown. When I go to Properties, Advanced..., my only choice is a wizard to find the most current driver. Is there another place to change this setting? Thanks for your reply! Debbie __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ The NOSPIN Group provides a monthly newsletter with great tips, information and ideas: NOSPIN-L, The NOSPIN Magazine Visit our web site to signup: http://freepctech.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 15:28:50 -0600 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Grabb <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Monitor Problem In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Update: To reset the Hz settings on my PC I had to choose the Adapter tab. I have had this monitor for almost 3 years. I tried everything that this group suggested with no success, so I called Dell. The person I spoke with waited while I switched monitors and I had the same problem with a different monitor. Then he had me do several tests and it was determined that I have a bad video card. Thanks to everyone for their responses. Debbie -----Original Message----- From: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Ted 5098 Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 2:44 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [PCBUILD] Monitor Problem To reset the Hz settings, right click on the desktop in an unused area, choose properties. Click on the advanced... button and then choose the monitor tab at the top of the window. You can then use the drop down arrow to change this setting. Here at work we use the 60Hz setting. Sometimes this will help prolong the fact that your P-991 is going out. With over 100 Dell monitors here we loose one of the older P991's every 4 months or so once they are 3 or more years old. Hope this helps...start saving for a LCD monitor. Ted Gamin OFIS Tech Support State of Michigan--- > I am new to this group and have a question. > I have a Dell PC with a Dell UltraScan P991 Color > monitor. All of a sudden > today I am getting horizontal light gray lines > across my screen everywhere > there is a line of text. And my color seems a bit > off -- red isn't really > red, etc. I have checked everything that I know to > check. I even got out my > documentation but that didn't help. > > Has anyone seen this happen before? > > On another note, my documentation says that my > resolution should be set at > 85 Hz (It is set to 75). I cannot find where to > change this. > > Thanks in advance for any help. > Debbie Grabb > > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Do you want to signoff PCBUILD or just change to Digest mode - visit our web site: http://freepctech.com/pcbuild.shtml The NOSPIN Group provides a monthly newsletter with great tips, information and ideas: NOSPIN-L, The NOSPIN Magazine Visit our web site to signup: http://freepctech.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 19:22:04 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: "Capt. Zyla" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Update on nic card windows 98 shutdown problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Windows 98 standard edition will not shutdown with the 3com 10/100 3c905c-tx pci card installed. It hangs on the screen windows is shutting down. If I disable this card in hardware profile it shutsdown fine. Just installed the latest drivers for this card and the same problem exists. Have not seen any solution to this problem posted anywhere, including 3com website.. If anyone has any ideas please post them. Outside of this the card works fine. Second question about Interrupts: This Nic is sharing IRQ 11 with the sound card and the video AGP card. Could this sharing be causing the problem? Looking at all the available interrupts I only see IRQ 9 that is free and not used. How would I assign IRQ 9 to this NIc card? It will not allow me to change any settings from device manager. John John M. Zyla [log in to unmask] http://www.smart.net/~captzyla |\ ,| \ A ship in harbor is safe-- /_|__\ but that is not what ships are for. \~~| John A. Shedd `~~~~~~~~* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * The NOSPIN Group provides a monthly newsletter with great tips, information and ideas: NOSPIN-L, The NOSPIN Magazine Visit our web site to signup: http://freepctech.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 16:19:32 -0800 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: rentongus <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Beep code MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reseat the video card and try it without the screw installed. Sometimes the bracket is misaligned and the card is unseated when the screw is tightened. If this works, remove the card and bend the bracket so the screw fits without unseating the card. If this doesn`t work, check the ram. Orrin Bendfelt The NOSPIN Group provides a monthly newsletter with great tips, information and ideas: NOSPIN-L, The NOSPIN Magazine Visit our web site to signup: http://freepctech.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 21:18:11 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: joseph marty <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Suggestions for PHOTO printers? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From 4 X 6 up to what size? Beyond 8 X 10 requires different printers. For prints up to 13 X 19 I'd recommend the Canon S9000, and the S900 for up to 8 X 10. These two are 6 color inkjets with 6 separate ink cartridges. I have the S900. These two are identical except for the size of the papers they'll print. I also recommend Canon Photo Paper Pro high gloss for printouts that are not discernible from film prints. They're also both 2400 dpi printers. You can do better if price is no object. >Hello... > >Can anyone suggest a good photo printer for 4x6 sizes and up.... > >do we need to buy the kind with the dye-sub ink? > >This is strictly for use in making prints form videotape... > >Thanks! > >Al > >________________________________________________________________ >Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today >Only $9.95 per month! >Visit www.juno.com > > The NOSPIN Group provides a monthly newsletter with great > tips, information and ideas: NOSPIN-L, The NOSPIN Magazine > Visit our web site to signup: http://freepctech.com > __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ PCBUILD maintains hundreds of useful files for download visit our download web page at: http://freepctech.com/downloads.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 17:25:08 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Les Barnes <[log in to unmask]> Subject: CD-ROM In the properties section of my CD-Rom (burner) there is a box called DMA. Seems to me I read somewhere that this should be unchecked but I can't remember why. Is there *any* time this should be unchecked? For burning? Game playing? Thanks in advance, Les Barnes PCBUILD maintains hundreds of useful files for download visit our download web page at: http://freepctech.com/downloads.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 21:20:01 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: joseph marty <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Suggestions for PHOTO printers? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit jmarty94102 wrote: >From 4 X 6 up to what size? Beyond 8 X 10 requires different printers. For prints up to 13 X 19 I'd recommend the Canon S9000, and the S900 for up to 8 X 10. These two are 6 color inkjets with 6 separate ink cartridges. I have the S900. These two are identical except for the size of the papers they'll print. I also recommend Canon Photo Paper Pro high gloss for printouts that are not discernible from film prints. They're also both 2400 dpi printers. You can do better if price is no object. >> >>Can anyone suggest a good photo printer for 4x6 sizes and up.... >> >>do we need to buy the kind with the dye-sub ink? >> >>This is strictly for use in making prints form videotape. __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ PCBUILD maintains hundreds of useful files for download visit our download web page at: http://freepctech.com/downloads.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 10:28:26 -0600 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Dave Jones <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Beep code MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Check the RAM, you may have bumped it and it might need to be re-seated.. Long beep is usually RAM, 3 beeps is usually video, but it depends on the BIOS. Dave Jones http://www.airmemories.com http://www.fwbac.com Camel: A horse designed by committee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 5:15 PM Subject: [PCBUILD] Beep code I have an old machine with a Octek Rhino 15 MB and 128MB DIMM in slot 1running a Cyrix 8x86 at 266mhz.Windows 95 is the OS.The machine worked fine several months ago when I stole the video card from it.I have now replaced the video card and can't get the machine to boot.There is a completely blank screen and I am getting a long beep about 3 seconds apart.The board has an Award bios with a new battery.I have stripped it down to only the video card and hard drive with the OS on it. Any help is appreciated Mike Bridges The NOSPIN Group provides a monthly newsletter with great tips, information and ideas: NOSPIN-L, The NOSPIN Magazine Visit our web site to signup: http://freepctech.com PCBUILD maintains hundreds of useful files for download visit our download web page at: http://freepctech.com/downloads.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 17:16:43 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Richard Freeman <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Suggestions for PHOTO printers? X-To: [log in to unmask] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've been doing 4x6, 5x7 and 8x10 using the Canon S900 and I find it very good. Multiple Ink cartridges - so you don't waste ink and throw away "multi" cartridges just because you run out of ink on one, six different ink cartridges with two for photo quality work. I believe this has been replaced by the Canon S920. New last year was $399 but I've seen them for $299 now. Richard >>> [log in to unmask] 12/29/2002 10:09:53 AM >>> Hello... Can anyone suggest a good photo printer for 4x6 sizes and up.... do we need to buy the kind with the dye-sub ink? This is strictly for use in making prints form videotape... Thanks! Al ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com The NOSPIN Group provides a monthly newsletter with great tips, information and ideas: NOSPIN-L, The NOSPIN Magazine Visit our web site to signup: http://freepctech.com PCBUILD maintains hundreds of useful files for download visit our download web page at: http://freepctech.com/downloads.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 22:45:02 +1100 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Ultra <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: CD-ROM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Back to old age, when cd burners are slow, and many compatibility problems exist between OS, system and cd burners, and most important, speed wasn't an issue, DMA mode might cause problems. But no longer this statement hold any value today. Today's fast burners require DMA enabled to reach their max speed. Not only you will loss writing speed, but also reading speed as well. PIO only mode is too slow today and without DMA enabled, most burners won't even burn reliably (buffer underrun kicks in millions of time). The only problem I've seen with DMA enabled is that some drives may lost ability to read certain CDs, but if they failed to such simple task, those drives are not worth to get. So in short answer, DMA should be enabled at any time. Jun Qian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Les Barnes" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 9:25 AM Subject: [PCBUILD] CD-ROM > In the properties section of my CD-Rom (burner) there is a box called DMA. Seems to me I read somewhere that this should be unchecked but I can't remember why. Is there *any* time this should be unchecked? For burning? Game playing PCBUILD maintains hundreds of useful files for download visit our download web page at: http://freepctech.com/downloads.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 07:48:35 -0800 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Mike <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Beep code MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Check the RAM, you may have bumped it and it might need to be re-seated.. > Long beep is usually RAM, 3 beeps is usually video, but it depends on the > BIOS. > > Dave Jones > http://www.airmemories.com > http://www.fwbac.com > I would like to thank everyone for their responses.Maybe I should have stated in the original post that I have been building computers for quite a few years.I have checked and rechecked the ram and video card swapping cards and slots on each for known good.The beep codes on an Award bios doesn't seem to really mean anything in general.They state their bios is sold to MB manufactures who customize and reconfigure it.Something you may want to think about when purchasing your next board. I think I will probably have to replace the MB and chip. Mike Bridges http://www.tonezoneonline.com PCBUILD maintains hundreds of useful files for download visit our download web page at: http://freepctech.com/downloads.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 18:45:10 +0100 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: "the_ryans.de" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Start Disc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please Forward.Server not accepted Hi there on the list I have a question regarding how to make a start = disc for a laptop running Win 3.1. I know that you have to make a start = disc for what ever DOS version is running. Format A: /sys or \ ? What = other files have to be copied to A ? with witch comand ( Copy auto exe = bat c/a) ? And finally how do you copy the drivers? I need to back = everything up as I have absolutly nothing. And at the Acer website I = couldn't find anything listed to download. This is an old 486 with a = whoping 4Mb RAM nothing to brag about but good enough to take notes on = at Parents night. Thanks for your advice. Paul Ryan PCBUILD maintains hundreds of useful files for download visit our download web page at: http://freepctech.com/downloads.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 18:39:07 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Rick Glazier <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Start Disc X-cc: [log in to unmask] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Do not edit or modify anything on the hard drive and you will stay out of trouble with the following... If the computer is running and boots it is relatively easy. Format a floppy with the system files on it (a check mark is placed in the format options box when formatting.) COPY the autoexec.bat and config.sys files to the floppy. ONLY edit the files on the floppy or you can break the computer. Then read both the autoexec.bat and config.sys files (on the floppy), and identify any drivers or files referenced in commands in those files. Copy all those files to the floppy, and edit path info in the autoexec.bat and config.sys for when those files are referenced, so the files are found on the floppy. I do not know if it is harder with a laptop, but a desktop of that era would generally need some drivers copied to the floppy in order to boot. (Especially If you wanted to boot to a blank hard drive, or a "broken" copy of Windows.) The above may (or may not) get a CD-Rom drive running. That is another "adventure" on a computer of that era, especially if starting from scratch. Test, test test... Hope this starts you out... Rick Glazier From: "the_ryans.de" <[log in to unmask]> Hi there on the list I have a question regarding how to make a start disc for a laptop running Win 3.1. I know that you have to make a start disc for what ever DOS version is running. Format A: /sys or \ ? What other files have to be copied to A ? with witch comand ( Copy auto exe bat c/a) ? And finally how do you copy the drivers? I need to back everything up as I have absolutly nothing. And at the Acer website I couldn't find anything listed to download. This is an old 486 with a whoping 4Mb RAM nothing to brag about but good enough to take notes on at Parents night. PCBUILD maintains hundreds of useful files for download visit our download web page at: http://freepctech.com/downloads.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 21:07:11 EST Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Philippe J Beaulieu <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Start Disc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There is no such thing as a windows 3.1 boot disk as at that time Windows was only a GUI. go to http://www.bootdisk.com/ not only do they have boot disks for DOS they also have boot disks for win95 and newer. Quite a few drivers and utilities as well HTH Philippe Beaulieu [log in to unmask] PCBUILD maintains hundreds of useful files for download visit our download web page at: http://freepctech.com/downloads.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 19:45:50 -0800 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Gary Grottke <[log in to unmask]> Subject: System Crashes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii My system is constantly crashing. Running Windows 98 on a MSI K7T Pro 2A motherboard & AMD 1 gig system. I've listed the errors I'm getting. Have run scandisk and defrag. This error occurred when I was trying to burn a CD: Fatal Exception 0E occurred at 0028:C000A4F7. The current application will be terminated. * Press any key to terminate current application. * Press Ctrl-Alt-Del to restart your computer The following 2 errors occurred while I was in IE 6.0 : An exception 0E has occurred at 0028:C000A4F7 in VxD---. This was called from 0028:C183B3D4 in VxD. It may be possible to continue normally. * Press any key to attempt to continue. * Press Ctrl-Alt-Del to restart your computer. I had to power off completely to get the PC to unlock. An exception 0E has occurred at 0028:DF29B2AF in VxD---. This was called from 0028:DF180180 in VxD ROKKMOSD(01)+000019C0. It may be possible to continue. * Press any key to attempt to continue. * Press Ctrl-Alt-Del to restart your computer. I was able to get out of IE, but system locked when I tried to restart IE. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com PCBUILD maintains hundreds of useful files for download visit our download web page at: http://freepctech.com/downloads.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 22:38:52 -0800 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: David Gillett <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Suggestions for PHOTO printers? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 29 Dec 2002, at 9:09, AL Kohout wrote: > Can anyone suggest a good photo printer for 4x6 sizes and up.... > This is strictly for use in making prints form videotape... At 72 dpi (typical minimal graphics printer resolution), standard video frames will print about 3" x 5". Enlargement beyond this size will make the resolution even lower -- and analog video picture quality is pretty marginal already. > do we need to buy the kind with the dye-sub ink? No. My Canon BJC-2000 -- near the bottom of the line -- gives quite decent results at 72 dpi with ordinary inks and paper. If videotape is your image source, spending jundreds of dollars on the printer and supplies is not going to achieve much. When I produce a shot with my digital camera that needs better quality printing than my Canon can do, I stick it on a disk and take it over to the printer at the local camera store. It doesn't happen often enough to justify a fancy printer on my desk. David Gillett PCBUILD's List Owners: Bob Wright<[log in to unmask]> Drew Dunn<[log in to unmask]> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 23:28:34 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Tracy <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Cannot enable 4X AGP w/VIA chipset MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable System specs: L7VMM mobo-VIA chipset, 512DDR, Win XP Pro, Athlon 1600 (1.4Gh), 60 & 40 = HD's, DVD, CD burner. Tried PNY Verto GF3 Ti 200 & currently running = the ATI All-In-Wonder 8500 128mb board. Looking in advanced display settings, the ATI "Smartgart" window shows = the AGP settings from "Off to 4X". Current AGP is set to 2X, fast = write-off. I tried moving the slider to 4X but it won't "take"- back to = 2X upon reboot. I've been around the block quite a few times with respect to drivers. = ATI's newest & greatest as well as VIA's Hyperion set (4.45). One user tip I got was to load the ATI drivers except to use the VIA = GART at the end- I wonder if someone here could tell me how to do that? = I wrote back to the other fellow but no answer. I have both ATI's & = VIA's driver sets downloaded & on my hard drive. I even unzipped the = VIA set so that I could have a look at each component separately. Not = sure how to launch only the GART- which is it? This is a way-too-common problem from what I'm reading with VIA's = chipsets. Is there anyone here who can help? (First name) Lynn (Last Name) Tracy --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.434 / Virus Database: 243 - Release Date: 12/25/2002 PCBUILD's List Owners: Bob Wright<[log in to unmask]> Drew Dunn<[log in to unmask]> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 22:51:05 -0800 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: A&C Thompson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: System Crashes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't know if this will help, but I had a very similar set of errors and constant crashes recently. (WinME, AMD 1 gig, 128 MB ram). Turned out I had configured my virus scan program to 'scan all files' instead of 'program files only'. I fought with my machine for days until I remembered that one simple change I had recently made. Once I reconfigured my virus scan program, the problem seemed to disappear - so far. hth Al Thompson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Grottke" Subject: [PCBUILD] System Crashes > My system is constantly crashing. Running Windows 98 > on a MSI K7T Pro 2A motherboard & AMD 1 gig system. > I've listed the errors I'm getting. Have run scandisk > and defrag. > > > This error occurred when I was trying to burn a CD: > > Fatal Exception 0E occurred at 0028:C000A4F7. > The current application will be terminated. > * Press any key to terminate current application. > * Press Ctrl-Alt-Del to restart your computer > > The following 2 errors occurred while I was in IE 6.0 > : > > An exception 0E has occurred at 0028:C000A4F7 in > VxD---. This > was called from 0028:C183B3D4 in VxD. It may be > possible > to continue normally. > * Press any key to attempt to continue. > * Press Ctrl-Alt-Del to restart your computer. > > I had to power off completely to get the PC to unlock. > > An exception 0E has occurred at 0028:DF29B2AF in > VxD---. This was > called from 0028:DF180180 in VxD > ROKKMOSD(01)+000019C0. It may > be possible to continue. > * Press any key to attempt to continue. > * Press Ctrl-Alt-Del to restart your computer. > > I was able to get out of IE, but system locked when I > tried to restart IE. > PCBUILD's List Owners: Bob Wright<[log in to unmask]> Drew Dunn<[log in to unmask]> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 09:03:33 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Freeman Mendell <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Suggestions for PHOTO printers? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit AL Kohout wrote: >Hello... > >Can anyone suggest a good photo printer for 4x6 sizes and up.... > >do we need to buy the kind with the dye-sub ink? > >This is strictly for use in making prints form videotape... > >Thanks! > >Al > > > I just bought a Canon s900. It does great pictures. A friend got the HP 7550, it does really good pics too. Both are under USD$300. -- Freeman Mendell, CISA, Certified Computer Crimes Investigator EDP Audit Manager Galveston County Auditor's Office (409) 770-5325 (281) 316-8300 x5325 PCBUILD's List Owners: Bob Wright<[log in to unmask]> Drew Dunn<[log in to unmask]> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 17:36:25 +1300 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Ian <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Installing Win98 onto an HP Pavilion 6701 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A customer has blown up her WinME setup and wants to install Win98SE instead (with which I wholeheartedly agree). Neither does she want XP. Naturally, her Recovery disk set will only reinstate the doggy ME. I note that the HP 6701 site has drivers for the computer but I'm picking that these will only be applicable to ME. Can anyone comment on this please? Ian Porter Computer Guys Inc. Arrowtown New Zealand [log in to unmask] PCBUILD's List Owners: Bob Wright<[log in to unmask]> Drew Dunn<[log in to unmask]> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 05:41:16 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: joseph marty <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Cannot enable 4X AGP w/VIA chipset MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Have you checked in the BIOS to make sure it's set for 4X? With some Via chipsets on some mobos, a third party card with 4X capabilities will not be activated without some registry tweak. Hopefully, that registry tweak stuff predates your mobo. >System specs: > >L7VMM mobo-VIA chipset, 512DDR, Win XP Pro, Athlon 1600 (1.4Gh), 60 & 40 HD's, DVD, CD burner. Tried PNY Verto GF3 Ti 200 & currently running the ATI All-In-Wonder 8500 128mb board. > >Looking in advanced display settings, the ATI "Smartgart" window shows the AGP settings from "Off to 4X". Current AGP is set to 2X, fast write-off. I tried moving the slider to 4X but it won't "take"- back to 2X upon reboot. > >I've been around the block quite a few times with respect to drivers. ATI's newest & greatest as well as VIA's Hyperion set (4.45). > >One user tip I got was to load the ATI drivers except to use the VIA GART at the end- I wonder if someone here could tell me how to do that? I wrote back to the other fellow but no answer. I have both ATI's & VIA's driver sets downloaded & on my hard drive. I even unzipped the VIA set so that I could have a look at each component separately. Not sure how to launch only the GART- which is it? > >This is a way-too-common problem from what I'm reading with VIA's chipsets. Is there anyone here who can help? __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ PCBUILD's List Owners: Bob Wright<[log in to unmask]> Drew Dunn<[log in to unmask]> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 17:43:33 -0600 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: "Stanley S. Churchill" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Start Disc In-Reply-To: <002201c2b02b$37ca91e0$dd42fea9@papa> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Paul,use the following... "copy c:\autoexec.bat a:\" and "copy c:\config.sys a:\" The only problem is, they will still try to start programs/services from your c:\ drive. If you can let me know what you're trying to do, I would be more then happy to help you set up a floppy start disc............ -----Original Message-----From: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of the_ryans.de Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 11:45 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [PCBUILD] Start Disc Please Forward.Server not accepted Hi there on the list I have a question regarding how to make a start disc for a laptop running Win 3.1. I know that you have to make a start disc for what ever DOS version is running. Format A: /sys or \ ? What other files have to be copied to A ? with witch comand ( Copy auto exe bat c/a) ? And finally how do you copy the drivers? I need to back everything up as I have absolutly nothing. And at the Acer website I couldn't find anything listed to download. This is an old 486 with a whoping 4Mb RAM nothing to brag about but good enough to take notes on at Parents night. Thanks for your advice. Paul Ryan PCBUILD maintains hundreds of useful files for download visit our download web page at: http://freepctech.com/downloads.shtml PCBUILD's List Owners: Bob Wright<[log in to unmask]> Drew Dunn<[log in to unmask]> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 07:29:48 -0800 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Mark Rode <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Installing Win98 onto an HP Pavilion 6701 In-Reply-To: <001701c2b086$2e86fd20$0201a8c0@Xtra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 05:36 PM 12/31/2002 +1300, you wrote: >A customer has blown up her WinME setup and wants to install Win98SE instead >(with which I wholeheartedly agree). >Neither does she want XP. >Naturally, her Recovery disk set will only reinstate the doggy ME. >I note that the HP 6701 site has drivers for the computer but I'm picking >that these will only be applicable to ME. >Can anyone comment on this please? >Ian Porter If this is a ME certified HP computer, then I think you will find, in the end, it is a better idea to just install ME. Millennium has all the drivers natively, and some of them will not be available anywhere else. ME with stable certified drivers are going to be a lot easier to deal with then a patched together Win98se. Rode The NOSPIN Group http://freepctech.com PCBUILD's List Owners: Bob Wright<[log in to unmask]> Drew Dunn<[log in to unmask]> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 03:08:08 -0600 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Dave <[log in to unmask]> Subject: SOYO Motherboard MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a SOYO (SY-7IZM) motherboard that doesn't see the mouse or the = keyboard. During the POST it beeps and gives the message Keyboard error = or no keyboard present. Switching to a USB kryboard will get me into = setup and was able to start installing windows98 se, got as far as the = prompt for Name and workplace, stays on the name line. The USB mouse = doesn't work at all. Changing batteries didn't have any effect. Any = ideas would be appreciated David Jarvis PCBUILD's List Owners: Bob Wright<[log in to unmask]> Drew Dunn<[log in to unmask]> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 10:53:08 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Rick Glazier <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: SOYO Motherboard X-cc: [log in to unmask] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sometimes you "need" to use a serial mouse and plain keyboard to install an OS and/or when in DOS. Rick Glazier From: "Dave" <[log in to unmask]> I have a SOYO (SY-7IZM) motherboard that doesn't see the mouse or the keyboard. During the POST it beeps and gives the message Keyboard error or no keyboard present. Switching to a USB kryboard will get me into setup and was able to start installing windows98 se, got as far as the prompt for Name and workplace, stays on the name line. The USB mouse doesn't work at all. Changing batteries didn't have any effect. Any ideas would be appreciated PCBUILD's List Owners: Bob Wright<[log in to unmask]> Drew Dunn<[log in to unmask]> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 15:00:11 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Lynn Tracy <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Scan Disk X-To: Angela Z Espinoza <[log in to unmask]> Hi- I recommend keeping an eye out for a deal at Bestbuy which they run frequently. It's the eMachine w/monitor,fast CPU, large HD, USB 2.0 ports, XP home, MS Works, & they even throw in a printer- all for $399 after rebates. These are regular rebates- NOT dependent on joining an ISP like MSN or AOL. I talked a friend into one of these bundles & she loves it! Her rebate checks were back wihin 4-6 weeks. She says her graphics (onboard) are fine for now but she can always pop in a PCI graphics card later if she wants. Lynn Tracy PS- I have one, too- mine is the eMachine T1600 (AMD processor w/AGP slot) PCBUILD's List Owners: Bob Wright<[log in to unmask]> Drew Dunn<[log in to unmask]> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 15:13:26 -0500 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Robert Citkowitz <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Photo vs Color printers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is it correct that, aside from purchase price considerations, photo = printers do not replace the need for color/b&w printers (which lack the = photo-quality capabilities)? Rob PCBUILD's List Owners: Bob Wright<[log in to unmask]> Drew Dunn<[log in to unmask]> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 07:20:19 -0600 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Dave Jones <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Start Disc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Look here http://www.jermar.com/ for WinDrivers backup.. Takes all the drivers from one computer and stores them in a directory for installation on another.. And it's FREE. Dave Jones ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stanley S. Churchill" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [PCBUILD] Start Disc > Hey Paul,use the following... > > "copy c:\autoexec.bat a:\" > and > "copy c:\config.sys a:\" > > The only problem is, they will still try to start programs/services from > your c:\ drive. If you can let me know what you're trying to do, I would be > more then happy to help you set up a floppy start disc............ > > -----Original Message-----From: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware > discussion List > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of the_ryans.de > Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 11:45 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: [PCBUILD] Start Disc > > > Please Forward.Server not accepted > > Hi there on the list I have a question regarding how to make a start disc > for a laptop running Win 3.1. I know that you have to make a start disc for > what ever DOS version is running. Format A: /sys or \ ? What other files > have to be copied to A ? with witch comand ( Copy auto exe bat c/a) ? And > finally how do you copy the drivers? I need to back everything up as I have > absolutly nothing. And at the Acer website I couldn't find anything listed > to download. This is an old 486 with a whoping 4Mb RAM nothing to brag > about but good enough to take notes on at Parents night. > Thanks for your advice. > Paul Ryan > > PCBUILD maintains hundreds of useful files for download > visit our download web page at: > http://freepctech.com/downloads.shtml > > PCBUILD's List Owners: > Bob Wright<[log in to unmask]> > Drew Dunn<[log in to unmask]> PCBUILD's List Owners: Bob Wright<[log in to unmask]> Drew Dunn<[log in to unmask]> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 14:19:40 -0800 Reply-To: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> Sender: PCBUILD - Personal Computer Hardware discussion List <[log in to unmask]> From: Brad Loomis <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Photo vs Color printers In-Reply-To: <00e401c2b10a$3bf9a140$fb58580c@vaio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My Photo printer does anything a printer can do. If I choose to do text with it I'll set it for draft or low quality as I'm not doing a thesis or the like, nor or there graphic involved. If I have a ton of just text to print I'll use the trusty workhorse LaserJet 5P. The cost of printing on the laser is considerably cheaper than ANY inkjet. For a page or a few, the photo printer is just fine. So the short answer is yes and maybe, some photo printers can do it all. It just comes down to the cost of consumables and what you are printing. Brad Loomis Morro Bay, CA -----Original Message----- Is it correct that, aside from purchase price considerations, photo printers do not replace the need for color/b&w printers (which lack the photo-quality capabilities)? Rob PCBUILD's List Owners: Bob Wright<[log in to unmask]> Drew Dunn<[log in to unmask]> PCBUILD's List Owners: Bob Wright<[log in to unmask]> Drew Dunn<[log in to unmask]>