Hi Keith We are certianly in agreement on the volume of olive oil. I tend to do about 60ml at most meals. With my activity level I really need the additional calories but I do not think it is doing me any favors from a life extension perspective. The pH effects of fat I think is somewhat dependant upon whether it is in a free fatty acid form or is esterified in tri-acyl-glycerols...I am not sure what form olive oil is in. I will do some checking as that should be fairly easy to find. I have done some meal tracking and from that did rough calculations for acid/base ballance. I think an algorithm for keeping track of this would be interesting. This is purely from memory but I am pretty sure large meals, even if not carb based, will elicit a large insulin response. what are your thoughts about the large insulin spike associated with the carb load meals in NHE? Thanks again. Robb _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_stopmorespam_3mf ----------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list send an email to [log in to unmask] with the words SIGNOFF EVOLUTIONARY-FITNESS in the _body_ of the email. To get a copy of the old archives or the FAQ, look in the EvFit folder at http://briefcase.yahoo.com/dryeraser