i have read a good bit about botox but this neuro is at emory clinic and was the first to recomend it to me. i had told judy that if i found a doc that knew what he was doing that i'd try botox. i finally found a doc that knows how to do this. too bad it is too late to not have any herniated disk and all the tendon and ligament damage. but maybe further damage can be cut off. by the way, i have two mones with two screws holding them together. the bone is supposed to grow across the screws and make one bone where the joint use to be. a young ortho that assisted the main doc told me that i had "little marbels of bone" that had ground off where the joint was as it wore out. they had to remove that from the area too. i am in a cast for 6 weeks now with my feet elevated most of the time. got some pain, but and taking mostly ibupropen and tyrenol more than the perscription they gave me. i was out of commission most of yesterday sick from the sleep juice they gave me. the aneathesiologist told judy that i carried on a conversation with him about 57 chevrolets but, i would not remember any of it. and sure enough, i don't remember. but, i do like the old chevolets of that era. again, happy holidays and thanks for your thoughts and prayers. -----Original Message----- From: Cleveland, Kyle E. To: [log in to unmask] Sent: 12/23/2002 9:04 AM Subject: Ken's procedure; was RE: holiday greetings Ken, The Botox will completely relax the contractures???? Where do I sign!? -Kyle -----Original Message----- From: Salkin Kathleen [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 2:47 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: holiday greetings It'll probably feel like heaven. :-) Good luck with the surgery, Ken! Kat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barber, Kenneth L." <[log in to unmask]> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.c-palsy To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 11:05 PM Subject: Re: holiday greetings > no, i have been warned not to have neck sergury under any circumstances. > "you'll never heal" those are the words that the neuro used. they will start > botox in the neck on jan 10. try to take the pressure off the neck with > that. if that goes well, then they are going to go to the left arm and > sholder. > > it has entered my mind that for more than 53 years these muscles have > spasmed and stayed contracted. i am wondering just how they will feel when > they relax.