I have never mastered soldering and I have tried to do it. All I accomplish is burning my fingers. I even had a blind person attempt to teach me but . . . As for Q signals, there is a lot of controversy on that subject. I try to stay away from them on phone but sometimes one slips out as I am a CW fan and I forget! WR1X said something so true. Elmering new hams and teaching them the correct way to operate makes for a better hobby. Enough of my soap box for today. Anne, K1STM _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com