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There was some discussion recently about writing. In his speech "The
Immortality of the Book", Sir Anthony Kenny recounted Plato's dialogue
Phaedrus.
The Egyptian god Theuth invented writing and presented it to the Egyptian
king Thamus, telling him that it would improve their memories. But Thamus
replied "You have declared the very opposite of its true effect. If men
learn this, it will plant forgetfulness in their souls; they will cease to
exercise memory because they rely on that which is written, calling things to
remembrance no longer from within themselves,but by means of external marks.
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>There was some discussion recently about writing. In his speech "The Immortality of the Book", Sir Anthony Kenny recounted Plato's dialogue Phaedrus.
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<BR>The Egyptian god Theuth invented writing and presented it to the Egyptian king Thamus, telling him that it would improve their memories. But Thamus replied "You have declared the very opposite of its true effect. If men learn this, it will plant forgetfulness in their souls; they will cease to exercise memory because they rely on that which is written, calling things to remembrance no longer from within themselves,but by means of external marks. What you have discovered a recipe not for memory, but for memoranda."</FONT></HTML>
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In a message dated 7/13/2002 11:34:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> The Egyptian god Theuth
Any relation to the American Dr. Theuthth?
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<BR>Any relation to the American Dr. Theuthth?
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Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 03:08:46 +1000
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Well.
Flew 22 hours from Sydney, leaving behind three weeks
of wonderful midwinter sunshine (clear blue skies).
Arrived in London dreading the grey skies I'd been
warned about ... and found clear blue skies and a
beautiful mild summer day - with temperatures a few
degrees warmer than Sydney.
I'm going to be here for a couple of weeks - so if
anybody is slipping through on the way to warmer parts
of Europe, drop me a line and let's see if we can
catch up!
Cheers
david
(not down under today)
http://www.sold.com.au - SOLD.com.au
- Find yourself a bargain!
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Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:34:02 EDT
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> There was some discussion recently about writing.
Christopher,
This is, for me, one of those just-in-time blessed messages.
Thanks,
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Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:08:01 EDT
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In a message dated 7/15/2002 1:09:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> Arrived in London dreading the grey skies I'd been
> warned about ... and found clear blue skies and a
> beautiful mild summer day - with temperatures a few
> degrees warmer than Sydney.
>
>
david,
If I were you, I wouldn;t have told anybody about this. The weather can only
get worse. London is the only place I've ever been where it's possible to
feel cold and damp while sweating, or maybe it's vice versa.
On the bright side, go to Liberty and see what they have-- It's a FABULOUS
store, and they may be having their summer sale about now.
Ralph
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<BR>
<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Arrived in London dreading the grey skies I'd been
<BR>warned about ... and found clear blue skies and a
<BR>beautiful mild summer day - with temperatures a few
<BR>degrees warmer than Sydney.
<BR>
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<BR>david,
<BR>
<BR>If I were you, I wouldn;t have told anybody about this. The weather can only get worse. London is the only place I've ever been where it's possible to feel cold and damp while sweating, or maybe it's vice versa.
<BR>
<BR>On the bright side, go to Liberty and see what they have-- It's a FABULOUS store, and they may be having their summer sale about now.
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Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:30:48 EDT
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Subject: Mid-Career Grant
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This is the only or one of the only preservation mid-career grants and I know
a lot of pinheads (inexplicably) would qualify.
The James Marston Fitch Charitable Foundation will award a $25,000 research
grant to mid-career professionals who have an advanced or professional degree
and at least 10 years' experience in historic preservation or related fields,
including architecture, landscape architecture, architectural conservation,
urban design, environmental planning, archaeology, architectural history, and
the decorative arts. Other smaller grants are made at the discretion of the
Trustees. This year's deadline is September 3, 2002. For information, please
see our web site at <A HREF="http://www.fitchfoundation.org/">www.fitchfoundation.org</A>.
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<BR>
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The James Marston Fitch Charitable Foundation will award a $25,000 research grant to mid-career professionals who have an advanced or professional degree and at least 10 years' experience in historic preservation or related fields, including architecture, landscape architecture, architectural conservation, urban design, environmental planning, archaeology, architectural history, and the decorative arts. Other smaller grants are made at the discretion of the Trustees. This year's deadline is September 3, 2002. For information, please see our web site at <A HREF="http://www.fitchfoundation.org/">www.fitchfoundation.org</A>.<B><BR>
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Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:18:30 -0700
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There was a gas manufacturing plant in Brattleboro but it was before my
time. I remember a large storage tank that was left over from it. Will
ask my Dad if he knows anything about it. Ruth
At 9:37 AM -0400 5/31/02, Ralph Walter wrote:
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My recollection is that coal gasification was a major source of energy for
Germany during WWII.
My grandparents brought a cooking stove with them to Los Angeles from The
Reich in 1940, which sat for 30 years in my grandfather's toolhouse because
it wouldn;t work with US gas. There was also some sort of
artificially-produced lighting gas in use here in the 19th-20th C for
places that didn't have municipal gas supplies.
Ralph
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Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 19:03:01 -0500
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I was reading "Afterimages,"
a book of dance criticism by Arlene Croce,
and I got to page 427 (paperback edition),
at the end of the piece entitled
"Balanchine's girls,"
and the last line of the piece is,
"Darling, all I want is that you should be a pinhead."
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> ,
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> "Darling, all I want is that you should be a pinhead."
Martin,'
If only our spouses (and other significants) were dance critics.
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<BR>Martin,'
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Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 22:26:58 -0700
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6 weeks this time, I'm afraid. We're getting ready to move in with my elderly
dad and it's taking alot of time. Ruth
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You have me laughing zo hard I have tearz rolling down my face.
Steve,
As long as zou don't wet Ruth's pants, it's okaz. Isn't that right, Ruth?
[It'll take her a month to respond, but that's okaz, too.]
Ralph
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I'm not sure but I'll bet there are some not far from there at any rate. I
fell in love with Baker Library the moment I set eyes on the place 40+
years ago. I had a friend who worked there.
What's with the duck thing all of a sudden. Merrill's aunt just died and
she was crazy to have ducks but couldn't as she lived in town. Her kids
put rubber duckies in the casket with her so she'd have her ducks. The
science teacher at school wants to hatch ducks next year instead of chicks.
I'll have to see if their quack echos when they swim on the pond. Ruth
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Dartmouth is a very nice school, just up the road from us.
Ruth,
But, do they have ducks?
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Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 13:05:52 EDT
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David; If time allows... pop over to Paris," por le weekend "
Jean was recently asking about you here in New York ; surprize him and give
him a call . ..
I have now left the heat of the city for the quiet confines of the Cape
seaside demonstrating to my "wee one "; zen and the art of the cannonball on
historic family spring board; (with the long low bounce ); that launches my
hulking frame into the air like a bad slice of golf; only to pummel
the air with screams, as children squeal,
and Da -Da pancakes with unbridled Olympic panache.
Michael
Ps Try; The Royal Guardsmen pub; in back of the old central Hospital is one
of the oldest ; it s haunted ; but steer clear of the food or you may have
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>David; If time allows... pop over to Paris," por le weekend "
<BR>Jean was recently asking about you here in New York ; surprize him and give him a call . ..
<BR>I have now left the heat of the city for the quiet confines of the Cape seaside demonstrating to my "wee one "; zen and the art of the cannonball on historic family spring board; (with the long low bounce ); that launches my hulking frame into the air like a bad slice of golf; only to pummel the air with screams, as children squeal,
<BR>and Da -Da pancakes with unbridled Olympic panache.
<BR>
<BR>Michael
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Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 22:51:25 EDT
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"If there is one more thing Christianity does not need, it is more
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Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 07:55:34 -0700
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I am going to try the RETURN thing. My Dad is elderly, why wouldn't he
be--I am myself, but he is beginning to lose it mentally. So, we--husband,
son and I, are moving into my ancestral home to live with Dad. It is an
interesting experience. My great grandfather and great great grandfather
built this house in 1870 and the family has lived there continually since.
Before that the family lived in another house on the same property which
was moved and joined to the "new" house. That was torn down in 1960s
because it was in such sorry condition. I hated to see it go and knowing
what I do now would have probably insisted on trying to save it.
As I go about the house cleaning and getting things moved around to make
way for 3 more packrats I am finding mementos of my childhood and wonder if
I think I can go back. I tell my 14 yo son of all the wonderful things to
do there--he is less than impressed. All he is concerned about is what's
on cable and his computer access.
So, wish me luck. If things go as I hope they will we will be meeting
Ralph this weekend and he may get to see this wonder of Vermont
architecture. Ruth
At 10:32 PM -0500 6/27/02, John Callan wrote:
>The trip has ended for most of us. Daughter and Friend went on by train
>for another adventure, this one in Philadelphia. Daughter and
>Son-in-Law planned to drive from St. Paul to Orlando to CT to
>Harrisburg, PA and home. Plans get changed. It seems camping in the
>Shanandoah exhausted them and they turned for home at Harrisburg. With
>all the weirdness that is part of visiting family and childhood
>landscapes, I think its better to be exhausted by camping in the
>Shanandoah.
>
>We, the two of us who actually grew up in that part of the country, were
>torn by the visit. The architecture and landscape and some people
>interactions tell us it is home and we need to return. The traffic, the
>inescapable crush of people, the intensity of conversation, the urgency
>of the pursuit of everything, repells us. Family pulls and repells in
>microcosm.
>
>The stone walls, the architecture, the familiar materials and forms.
>Does every architect have some form that he/she delights in and knows it
>has nothing to do with what he was taught in school? Maybe some are
>taught about the forms that are closest to their roots in school...is it
>good? Do builders choose to build in ancient forms? Is it okay to
>design from the heart and from the myth?
>
>Its good to be home. You guys sure are quiet tonight.
>
>-jc
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> So, wish me luck. If things go as I hope they will we will be meeting
> Ralph this weekend and he may get to see this wonder of Vermont
> architecture.
You have great courage, Ruth. I hope it goes well. What an amazing thing to
go back to home that your family has occupied for so long!! Such a rare
opportunity. I know your son will (eventually) come to appreciate it.
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<BR>
<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">So, wish me luck. If things go as I hope they will we will be meeting
<BR>Ralph this weekend and he may get to see this wonder of Vermont
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<BR>You have great courage, Ruth. I hope it goes well. What an amazing thing to go back to home that your family has occupied for so long!! Such a rare opportunity. I know your son will (eventually) come to appreciate it.
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Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 18:34:54 -0700
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jc, Wish I'd been there too but I don't know if I could hold my breath
that long. A THOUSAND FEET IN THE AIR, Yikes!!!!!!!! The view must be
sumpin'!! How do you get way up there?? On second thought I'm not sure I
want to know, you guys seem to be closely related to Spider Man. Sounds
kinda fun though, in a real scary sort of way. Ruth, the country mouse
At 10:08 AM -0500 7/5/02, John Callan wrote:
Again! Once more I wish I'd been there! Great story, must have been a
great day.
-jc
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uly3...96 deg and the party is in full swing sixty stories up atop the old
Pan Am.
Sixty union stoneworkers, riggers, and ironworkers assemble for a glorious
fourth in a rag tag mix of bar-b-que; soul music ,and impromtu games of
chance under a raging sun.
No petite fors and pink lemonade here; this is hard hat UsA ,New York
dressed in a terrifying collection of saftey harness; muscle shirts, tatoos
, utility belts and alot of neck gold coming from every nationality
imaginable.
Black jamacian masons mix it up with tough well muscled chineese riggers,
there are second generation Irish steel workers from hells kitchen who have
mason gangs of Italians and greeks .Heck there is even a muslim mason from
Afganistan.
So my french crew ; a hearty group of bad boy romeos fit like an old shoe,
in as well they work hard and are not afraid of anybody or anything..
There are 3 grills going with bare chested brawny youth in American flag do
rags and bandolier utility belts turning mountains of chicken ,"brats" and
"burglers" as Mick Jager belts out
"You can't always get what you want"
The men laugh like pirates and dance with one another cradeling cold
beverages waving burgers as they go from ad hoc dice games , pitched
cards,and feats of strength on this sun blasted heliocopter pad over a
thousand feat in the air.
Lost is the geenteel conversation of the conservator and architect.The air
is now peppered with bravado and the colorfull lexicon of tough guys , dead
end kids, and ex cons as they brawl over pots of cash from their crap
games and the side bets from arm wrestling ,and pitched cards.
The temperature climbs again to 97 deg ; and the view is a spectacular
sweep of all of lower Manhattan .Boats and ferrys ply the East ad Huson
rivers.
Our massive steel out-riggers bristle the sides of the building like so
many cannon on a galleon;which create pockets of welcomed shade.
Suddenly an an inpromtu game of football erupts with a rolled shirt as the
ball and everyone joined in .
With so many bare chested tatooed men in head scarfs dodging and running
about the deck as grills smoking "brats" in full blast attracted the
instant attention of police and military heliocopters who came in to
closely monitor the situation with their sniper crews .
Our men ;patriotic to the core ; promptly unveiled a large american flag
they had brought for the occaison..
As they stood revertly waving with their flag ; the copters waved back
and then smartly peeled off to the cheers of the men.
Happy fourth Michael
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Up heah Morgans is muscle and blood. Ruth
At 11:15 PM -0400 7/8/02, Donald B. White wrote:
>Message text written by Guaranteeing the preservation of heart and myth
>>Which remindth me, down at the Fabulouth Thummit Mall yethterday, I thaw
>(and
>I didn't jutht think I thaw) a butter-yellow 62 Morgan. I knew it wath a
>62
>becauthe the lithenthe plate thaid tho. Didn't athk the owner it it wath
>wood-framed, though.
>
>Thankth for reminding me to tell you. I knew you and the retht of our
>Pinheaded friendth would be interethted.<
>
>The Mogman replies:
>
>Thank you Ralpth for reporting that sighting.
>
>I have just returned from MOG 32 (32nd annual Morgan Owners Gathering) in
>Staunton, VA. This is traditionally on the July 4th weekend. It was my 18th
>meet in 20 years (I started with 12, missed 23 and 31). There were about 80
>Morgans there ranging from 1932 to 2002. I drove there in the Great
>Pumpkin, 150 miles, drove around all weekend and back again--about 500
>miles total. This was my first Morgan road trip since 1999 and a good
>warmup for driving it to IPTW next month.
>
>I know of several that could be called butter-yellow (saw some at the meet)
>and am trying to recall if any are from NJ and have a tag identifying them
>as '62s. My previous one, the Stealth Morgan, was a 1961. Fergus Motors in
>NYC was the primary distributor then and sold a great many in the late 50s
>and early 60s (including the '57 and '61 I formerly owned). All Morgans
>have wood frames (the term refers to the body structural frame, not the
>chassis frame, which is always made of steel). We had a good number at the
>meet from NJ and PA, so the car you saw could have been there. Was the tag
>a vanity tag, or a year-of-manufacture tag (i.e. an old 1962 tag used for
>an antique registration, which most states permit)? There are only about
>3000 Morgans in North America, so it is possible I could identify it. The
>site www.Morganville.com includes a registry. Both my current cars as well
>as my former one (1961 Morgan #4875) are listed there.
>
>MOG 33 will be in Shepherdstown, WV.
>
>PS. Found out an interesting fact relative to my car's name--Charles M.
>Schulz owned a Morgan!
>
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Since I am on the maintenance end of this business I guess I should chime
in here. The school where I do the bulk of my work is not an old place but
there is one rather historic building which they chose not to keep in very
good repair I can't seem to interest them in doing so. Money mostly, it is
faculty housing, not student related so the parents don't see it.
Whenever any work is done, for instance this summer a new floor was put in
dining room, I always ask those who install what the proper cleaning and
maintenance should be. Most times they don't know but can usually get me
some pamphlet from the mfgr. We try but if the ones doing the work have no
clue how can we maintain? Ruth
At 12:31 PM -0500 7/11/02, John Callan wrote:
>Ayyy...yup. (An expression learned in another northerly clime to the east, to
>signify enthusiastic agreement without becoming gaudy, like a Rollex.)
>
>GWI out MHS in wrote:
>
>> John C. writes:
>> >>But what we may really
>> need is to have a craftsman who ie. repairs wood and paints it, talk
>> through his thoughts to a maintenance person or other and have the
>> maintenance person or other try his hand at the task under direction.
>> <<
>>
>> This is exactly what I have been trying to do with my Practical Restoration
>> Report series, workshops and training services over the past 15 years --
>> bring my hands-on
>> experience to bear where it will do the most good. The Managing Maintenance
>> report helps with maintenance theory and practical organization; and the
>> other titles provide specific details on methods, materials, techniques,
>> etc., for windows, exterior woodwork, columns, gutters, etc. Learn more at
>> www.HistoricHomeWorks.com
>>
>> John
>> by hammer and hand great works do stand
>> by pen and thought best words are wrought
>>
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Subject: Re: summer in London
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> ; but steer clear of the food or you may have unwanted visitations
david,
Now that Michael mentions it, you might be wise to bring all your own food.
The Brits are big on boiled cardboard. At least that's what it used to taste
(and look) like.
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<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">; but steer clear of the food or you may have unwanted visitations </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BR>david,
<BR>
<BR>Now that Michael mentions it, you might be wise to bring all your own food. The Brits are big on boiled cardboard. At least that's what it used to taste (and look) like.
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Subject: Re: From the magazine "Christian Century", 1966:
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In a message dated 7/19/02 10:52:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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>
> "If there is one more thing Christianity does not need, it is more
> Cathedrals."
>
>
>
Do I hear foreshadowing of the Rev. Thomas Bowers (formerly of St. Bart's)?
Or perhaps the charming former Bishop Rev. Spong of the Archdiocese of
Newark, who sold off all the REAL Tiffany windows from a Jersey City church,
which is now falling into ruin, since the diocese pocketed the proceeds and
left the parish (or whatever the Episcopalians call it) high and dry? Leaky
and wet would be a more accurate description.
Ralph
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<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="arial" LANG="0">"If there is one more thing Christianity does not need, it is more Cathedrals."</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="arial" LANG="0"> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#0f0f0f" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">
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<BR>Do I hear foreshadowing of the Rev. Thomas Bowers (formerly of St. Bart's)? Or perhaps the charming former Bishop Rev. Spong of the Archdiocese of Newark, who sold off all the REAL Tiffany windows from a Jersey City church, which is now falling into ruin, since the diocese pocketed the proceeds and left the parish (or whatever the Episcopalians call it) high and dry? Leaky and wet would be a more accurate description.
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In a message dated 7/20/02 10:27:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask]
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> Whenever any work is done, for instance this summer a new floor was put in
> dining room, I always ask those who install what the proper cleaning and
> maintenance should be. An excellent, and most prudent thing to do.Most
> times they don't know Nobody knows nothin' no more. They just sell stuff
> but can usually get me some pamphlet from the mfgr. We try but if the ones
> doing the work have no clue how can we maintain? Ask your friendly
> pinheads. Even the ones who weaseled out of visiting you at the last
> moment.
>
> What material is the floor? If it's wood, you (they) should keep it waxed;
> the wax acts as a sacrificial layer, so that instead of the wood getting
> worn, the wax does. Every so often, it should be cleaned and rewaxed.
> Better yet would be to varnish the hell out of it (I'd say 4 coats) and
> then wax.
The problem with waxing is that you don't want to make it so slick that some
> jerk (like me) doessn't slip on it, fall on his/her ass, and break his/her
> knee (like I did some years back). Whatever the material, you want to make
sure that a record is kept of what's applied to it and when, so that if this
asshole falls on it, you can prove that you followed the floor and or wax
manufacturer's instructions.
Mrs. Ralph and I got to the Newfane flea market [or the one at Rte 30,
anyway] about 2 (I think) this afternoon, when the remaining vendors were
packing up. She bought a bunch of plants, and I made a very exciting
purchase of 3 screwdrivers (one of them old--you woulda wet your pants
laughing at me for paying $7 for an old screwdriver) and some sort of
stainless steel gizmo that gives decimal equivalents of fractions of an inch.
I will try to get up there to see you again. Meanwhile, it's your turn to
come down South. You don't even have to buy screwdrivers.
Ralph
>
>
>
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<BR>
<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Whenever any work is done, for instance this summer a new floor was put in
<BR>dining room, I always ask those who install what the proper cleaning and
<BR>maintenance should be. <B>An excellent, and most prudent thing to do.</B>Most times they don't know <B>Nobody knows nothin' no more. They just sell stuff </B>but can usually get me some pamphlet from the mfgr. We try but if the ones doing the work have no clue how can we maintain? <B>Ask your friendly pinheads. Even the ones who weaseled out of visiting you at the last moment.
<BR>
<BR>What material is the floor? If it's wood, you (they) should keep it waxed; the wax acts as a sacrificial layer, so that instead of the wood getting worn, the wax does. Every so often, it should be cleaned and rewaxed. Better yet would be to varnish the hell out of it (I'd say 4 coats) and then wax. </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE></B>
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<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><B> The problem with waxing is that you don't want to make it so slick that some </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></B>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><B>jerk (like me) doessn't slip on it, fall on his/her ass, and break his/her knee (like I did some years back).</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE></B> <B>Whatever the material, you want to make sure that a record is kept of what's applied to it and when, so that if this asshole falls on it, you can prove that you followed the floor and or wax manufacturer's instructions.
<BR>
<BR>Mrs. Ralph and I got to the Newfane flea market [or the one at Rte 30, anyway] about 2 (I think) this afternoon, when the remaining vendors were packing up. She bought a bunch of plants, and I made a very exciting purchase of 3 screwdrivers (one of them old--you woulda wet your pants laughing at me for paying $7 for an old screwdriver) and some sort of stainless steel gizmo that gives decimal equivalents of fractions of an inch.
<BR></B>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><B>I will try to get up there to see you again. Meanwhile, it's your turn to come down South. You don't even have to buy screwdrivers.</B>
<BR>
<BR><B>Ralph</B>
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In a message dated 7/21/2002 10:43:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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>
> Do I hear foreshadowing of the Rev. Thomas Bowers (formerly of St. Bart's)?
> Or perhaps the charming former Bishop Rev. Spong of the Archdiocese of
> Newark, who sold off all the REAL Tiffany windows from a Jersey City
> church, which is now falling into ruin, since the diocese pocketed the
> proceeds and left the parish (or whatever the Episcopalians call it) high
> and dry? Leaky and wet would be a more accurate description.
>
> Ralph
I took out the Tiffany's. They were sold to a dealer in Japan thru a broker
in NY, Alistar Duncan of stolen Tiffany's from masoleums in Brooknyn fame who
is now doing time in a fed pen for the crimes - I don't think he's out yet.
I thought the church was sold to a Korean cong. that didn't want to pay for
the Tiffany windows. I haven't been back so I dont know the condition of the
church now.
Jim Hicks
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<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><BR>
Do I hear foreshadowing of the Rev. Thomas Bowers (formerly of St. Bart's)? Or perhaps the charming former Bishop Rev. Spong of the Archdiocese of Newark, who sold off all the REAL Tiffany windows from a Jersey City church, which is now falling into ruin, since the diocese pocketed the proceeds and left the parish (or whatever the Episcopalians call it) high and dry? Leaky and wet would be a more accurate description. <BR>
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I took out the Tiffany's. They were sold to a dealer in Japan thru a broker in NY, Alistar Duncan of stolen Tiffany's from masoleums in Brooknyn fame who is now doing time in a fed pen for the crimes - I don't think he's out yet.<BR>
I thought the church was sold to a Korean cong. that didn't want to pay for the Tiffany windows. I haven't been back so I dont know the condition of the church now.<BR>
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O boy Ralph, that means when you come to VT we can go jackin' deer wit them
thar maglites. Are they the big 9 cell one or the itty bitty ones? Sure
hope they are at least 9 cell but I guess if they were more than that you
wouldn't be able to hold your head up. Sorry we missed each other this
weekend, let's try for when you come to fetch the chilins home. Ruth
At 8:06 AM -0400 5/30/02, Met History wrote:
In a message dated 5/30/02 8:04:09 AM, [log in to unmask] writes:
Then there's the reason why Jews were believed to have horns: the Hebrew
word that described light coming from from Moses' head was translated as
"horns.
"
...you really have Maglites coming out of the top of your head?
Sign me, Ray O. Vac
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Jim,
Thanks for the update.
> I took out the Tiffany's. We know you were just a small cog in the machine,
> doing your job, etc, etc. They were sold to a dealer in Japan thru a
> broker in NY, Alistar Duncan of stolen Tiffany's from masoleums in Brooknyn
> fame who is now doing time in a fed pen for the crimes - I don't think he's
> out yet. Now THAT's good news. I didn't know he'd been in on the St.
> John's deal. Was the St John's deal "legitimate," or did this piece of
> shit (let us not mince words) engineer the whole thing to line his and
> Spong's pockets?
> I thought the church was sold to a Korean cong. that didn't want to pay for
> the Tiffany windows. I don't believe so. The Episcopalians are still there
> (I think) and are (or used to be) more or less run by my friend Dennis
> Doran (who you must have met during the course of your operations). I used
> to live around the corner, and in fact there was some sort of fund, which
> probably also has been looted, at the church set up in memory of my
> father. I haven't been back so I dont know the condition of the church
> now. Last I heard from Dennis, the roof was leaking and copper gutters had
> been stolen. I haven't had the heart to go back there, either, for fear of
> seeing all the work we did in that neighborhood having gone down the drain.
Ralph
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<B>Jim,<BR>
<BR>
Thanks for the update.</B><BR>
<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I took out the Tiffany's. <B>We know you were just a small cog in the machine, doing your job, etc, etc.</B> They were sold to a dealer in Japan thru a broker in NY, Alistar Duncan of stolen Tiffany's from masoleums in Brooknyn fame who is now doing time in a fed pen for the crimes - I don't think he's out yet. <B>Now THAT's good news. I didn't know he'd been in on the St. John's deal. Was the St John's deal "legitimate," or did this piece of shit (let us not mince words) engineer the whole thing to line his and Spong's pockets? </B><BR>
I thought the church was sold to a Korean cong. that didn't want to pay for the Tiffany windows. <B>I don't believe so. The Episcopalians are still there (I think) and are (or used to be) more or less run by my friend Dennis Doran (who you must have met during the course of your operations). I used to live around the corner, and in fact there was some sort of fund, which probably also has been looted, at the church set up in memory of my father. </B>I haven't been back so I dont know the condition of the church now. <B>Last I heard from Dennis, the roof was leaking and copper gutters had been stolen. I haven't had the heart to go back there, either, for fear of seeing all the work we did in that neighborhood having gone down the drain.</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE></B><BR>
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Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 08:29:38 EDT
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Subject: Re: From the magazine "Christian Century", 1966:
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In a message dated 7/19/2002 7:52:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
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> "If there is one more thing Christianity does not need, it is more
> Cathedrals."
Sharpshooter,
Is this a quote from a Unitarian?
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<BR>
<BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="arial" LANG="0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">"If there is one more thing Christianity does not need, it is more Cathedrals." </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 08:53:59 EDT
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From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: lives of the saints - So, Ralph, does that mean...
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In a message dated 7/22/02 6:41:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask]
writes:
Ruth,
This was MOST confusing, until I realized that you were referring to my
horns, rather than my screwdrivers. In any event, the screwdrivers don't
stick out of my head. Yet. > O boy Ralph, that means when you come to VT we
> can go jackin' deer wit them thar maglites. Or screwdrivers. Are they the
> big 9 cell one or the itty bitty ones? I actually have a little bitty one
> (2- AA cell, Maglite I mean) that I carry around in my briefcase. Sure
> hope they are at least 9 cell but I guess if they were more than that you
> wouldn't be able to hold your head up. Sorry we missed each other this
> weekend, let's try for when you come to fetch the chilins home. Ruth
> We are hoping the Short People will get delivered to us, but who knows.
> Were we in fact at the same place at different times?
>
> At 8:06 AM -0400 5/30/02, Met History wrote:
> In a message dated 5/30/02 8:04:09 AM, [log in to unmask] writes:
>
> Then there's the reason why Jews were believed to have horns: the Hebrew
> word that described light coming from from Moses' head was translated as
> "horns."
>
> ...you really have Maglites coming out of the top of your head? Being the
> old-fashioned type of guy I am, I would aesthetically prefer gas arms to
> Maglites (the Jewish Vishnu/Shiva look?). However, since I date from
> 1952, there would be a definite anti-histo-presto anachronism there that
> would be historically incorrect, so we better not do it. Furthermore, Mrs.
> Ralph would probably prefer not to have any more sources of gas, and would
> opt for battery-driven appliances. Besides which, good husband that I am, I
> would never dream of doing anything with which my Spousal Unit was not in
> full agreement.
> Sign me, Ray O. Vac
>
SIgn me,
Replaced by a Battery-operated Device
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 7/22/02 6:41:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
<BR>
<B>Ruth,<BR>
<BR>
This was MOST confusing, until I realized that you were referring to my horns, rather than my screwdrivers. In any event, the screwdrivers don't stick out of my head. Yet. <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></B>O boy Ralph, that means when you come to VT we can go jackin' deer wit them thar maglites. <B>Or screwdrivers. </B> Are they the big 9 cell one or the itty bitty ones? <B>I actually have a little bitty one (2- AA cell, Maglite I mean) that I carry around in my briefcase. </B> Sure<BR>
hope they are at least 9 cell but I guess if they were more than that you<BR>
wouldn't be able to hold your head up. Sorry we missed each other this<BR>
weekend, let's try for when you come to fetch the chilins home. Ruth<BR>
<B>We are hoping the Short People will get delivered to us, but who knows. Were we in fact at the same place at different times?</B><BR>
<BR>
At 8:06 AM -0400 5/30/02, Met History wrote:<BR>
In a message dated 5/30/02 8:04:09 AM, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
<BR>
Then there's the reason why Jews were believed to have horns: the Hebrew<BR>
word that described light coming from from Moses' head was translated as<BR>
"horns."<BR>
<BR>
...you really have Maglites coming out of the top of your head? <B>Being the old-fashioned type of guy I am, I would aesthetically prefer gas arms to Maglites (the Jewish Vishnu/Shiva look?). However, since I date from 1952, there would be a definite anti-histo-presto anachronism there that would be historically incorrect, so we better not do it. Furthermore, Mrs. Ralph would probably prefer not to have any more sources of gas, and would opt for battery-driven appliances. Besides which, good husband that I am, I would never dream of doing anything with which my Spousal Unit was not in full agreement. </B><BR>
Sign me, Ray O. Vac<BR>
</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 09:40:08 -0400
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...and what about maintenance for a leather floor? I came across one the
other day. The flooring was installed in a 1920s colonial revival home as
part of a high-end 1960s Modern style interior renovation. The leather is
3/8" thick sole leather, in 3"x9" "tiles" (the owner managed a shoe
factory), and is in good condition with the "top grain" still mostly intact.
The past maintenance routine for the flooring is unknown (probably a lot of
loving care from the owner who obviously knew his leathers and loved his
floors). Dispite knowing a little about leather (apprenticed to an old-time
harnessmaker for a year and a half when I was a kid in Nebraska) I'm at a
loss to make a solid recommendation for the maintenance of leather flooring.
Are there any standards or experiences out there?
John (knows his top grain from his split) Leeke
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Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 09:59:01 EDT
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From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]>
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In a message dated 7/22/02 8:51:57 AM Eastern Standard Time,
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> Are there any standards or experiences out there?
>
> John (knows his top grain from his split) Leeke
>
I have a feeling you da man, John. Just be sure to tell the rest of us what
you're telling the owner, so we can be da man, too.
Ralph
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Are there any standards or experiences out there?<BR>
<BR>
John (knows his top grain from his split) Leeke<BR>
</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 00:08:42 +1000
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Michael
The summer swimming sounds good.
I won't have time this trip to get over to Paris, but
I'll try and call Jean anyway.
We're actually running a one day masonry cleaning
seminar in Sydney on 5 August - and the boys from FG
in Melbourne are supposedly coming up to do a
demonstration.
Don't know whether I'll get down to the Royal
Guardsmen, but Ralph can remain assured that I'm
avoiding the boiled cardboard. IMHO the majority of
that stuff comes from the fastfood chains (didn't they
originate in the US of A?).
Thus far I've had some good Indian, some very average
pasta, some great (Australian) home cooking, and
hopefully tomorrow night some good Thai.
Most importantly, I've made it to the first three
nights of the BBC Prom concerts ... thus partially
fulfilling a long-held dream (the other part is the
Last Night of course). It has been great to stand in
the Arena at the Royal Albert Hall amongst all these
other people and listen to fantastic music from
orchestras and conductors that previously had just
been oft-heard names on the radio or recordings. Sir
Charles Mackerras, Orchestra of the Age of
Enlightenment, BBC Symphony, BBC Philharmonic ...
Would love to get up to the ceiling of the RAH to see
the repair works they're doing to the roof at the
moment ... maybe I should make some phonecalls!
They've got an amazing mobile scaffold supported from
two permanent monorails they've put in place ...
really impressive.
Oh, and it has been great weather. I left Sydney
after three weeks of clear blue skies ... and the past
eight days here in London have been much the same.
Rain is forecast tomorrow, but it has been pretty
wonderful.
Sat in the park yesterday afternoon watching a
colleague's one year old son running around ... then
played Aussie Rules with a gridiron ball and scared
all those round ball enthusiasts away!!
Cheers
david
(not down under)
--- [log in to unmask] wrote: > David; If time allows...
pop over to Paris," por le
> weekend "
> Jean was recently asking about you here in New York
> ; surprize him and give
> him a call . ..
> I have now left the heat of the city for the quiet
> confines of the Cape
> seaside demonstrating to my "wee one "; zen and the
> art of the cannonball on
> historic family spring board; (with the long low
> bounce ); that launches my
> hulking frame into the air like a bad slice
> of golf; only to pummel
> the air with screams, as children squeal,
> and Da -Da pancakes with unbridled Olympic panache.
>
> Michael
>
> Ps Try; The Royal Guardsmen pub; in back of the
> old central Hospital is one
> of the oldest ; it s haunted ; but steer clear of
> the food or you may have
> unwanted visitations
>
http://www.sold.com.au - SOLD.com.au
- Find yourself a bargain!
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Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:18:59 EDT
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In a message dated 7/22/2002 10:09:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> They've got an amazing mobile scaffold supported from
> .
David, I recall the Royal Albert Hall as round in plan. What kind of
monorail setup
handles a round ceiling? I'm thinking of sewage aerators. Christopher Gray
in Martha's Vineyard
PS That damn paraffin that some idiot said to put on my porch screens (to
permit the surface tension of the water to block rain blow-through) not only
did not work, it is still there, gumming up the view! Someone send me a
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 7/22/2002 10:09:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
<BR>
<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">They've got an amazing mobile scaffold supported from
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<BR>
<BR>
<BR>David, I recall the Royal Albert Hall as round in plan. What kind of monorail setup
<BR>handles a round ceiling? I'm thinking of sewage aerators. Christopher Gray in Martha's Vineyard
<BR>
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Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:53:18 EDT
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From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: summer in London
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In a message dated 7/22/2002 10:09:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> . IMHO the majority of
> that stuff comes from the fastfood chains (didn't they
> originate in the US of A?).
>
>
david,
You are entirely correct about the fast-food chains, but I have a feeling the
English have been eating boiled cardboard since long before fast food chains
came into being.
Sign me,
Taco Bell Man
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 7/22/2002 10:09:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
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<BR>
<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">. IMHO the majority of
<BR>that stuff comes from the fastfood chains (didn't they
<BR>originate in the US of A?).
<BR>
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<BR>david,
<BR>
<BR>You are entirely correct about the fast-food chains, but I have a feeling the English have been eating boiled cardboard since long before fast food chains came into being.
<BR>
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Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:54:37 EDT
Reply-To: "Darling,
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From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: summer in London
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In a message dated 7/22/2002 10:19:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> Someone send me a flamethrower - or wax-eating bugs.
>
>
>
>
Chrif--
How about a few houseguests?
Ralph
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 7/22/2002 10:19:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
<BR>
<BR>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Someone send me a flamethrower - or wax-eating bugs.
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#0f0f0f" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">
<BR>
<BR>
<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BR></FONT></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Chrif--
<BR>
<BR>How about a few houseguests?
<BR>
<BR>Ralph</FONT></HTML>
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Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:11:14 EDT
Reply-To: "Darling,
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From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: summer in London
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In a message dated 7/22/2002 7:09:21 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
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> hopefully tomorrow night some good Thai.
>
A BP'r to the bone! Don't get lost in the fog looking for the restaurant.
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 7/22/2002 7:09:21 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">hopefully tomorrow night some good Thai.<BR>
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A BP'r to the bone! Don't get lost in the fog looking for the restaurant.<BR>
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Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:14:54 EDT
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In a message dated 7/22/2002 7:59:56 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
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> How about a few houseguests?
From the amazing man with the acidic paraffin melting tongue?
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 7/22/2002 7:59:56 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">How about a few houseguests? </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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From the amazing man with the acidic paraffin melting tongue?<BR>
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Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:21:58 -0400
Reply-To: "Darling,
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From: Rudy Christian <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: summer in London
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>> PS That damn paraffin that some idiot said to put on my porch screens
(to permit the surface tension of the water to block rain blow-through) not
only did not work, it is still there, gumming up the view! Someone send me
a flamethrower - or wax-eating bugs.
Just UPS them to Ohio where the heat index is over 100 today!
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Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 07:49:26 -0700
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From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]>
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At 11:02 PM -0400 7/21/02, Ralph Walter wrote:
In a message dated 7/20/02 10:27:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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Mrs. Ralph and I got to the Newfane flea market [or the one at Rte 30,
anyway] about 2 (I think) this afternoon, when the remaining vendors were
packing up. She bought a bunch of plants, and I made a very exciting
purchase of 3 screwdrivers (one of them old--you woulda wet your pants
laughing at me for paying $7 for an old screwdriver) and some sort of
stainless steel gizmo that gives decimal equivalents of fractions of an
inch.
I will try to get up there to see you again. Meanwhile, it's your turn to
come down South. You don't even have to buy screwdrivers.
Ralph
Ralph, I sure woulda wet my pants laughing. If you'd just come visit me I
coulda give you a whole bunch of old screwdrivers and other useless tools.
Then I wouldn't have had to bother to move them.
IF I should ever come to your area I'll bring my own screwdrivers thanks.
I'll bet they cost more down there where everybody is rich and famous.
Let me know when you are coming this way again and I'll give you a private
showing of old tools you never knew existed and certainly didn't know you
needed. Ruth
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Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 12:56:31 EDT
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From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: summer in London
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In a message dated 7/22/2002 11:15:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask]
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>
> >> How about a few houseguests?
>
> From the amazing man with the acidic paraffin melting tongue?
>
>
Actually, I was thinking about the rest of you going.
Ralph
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 7/22/2002 11:15:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
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<BR>
<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">
<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">How about a few houseguests? </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">
<BR>From the amazing man with the acidic paraffin melting tongue?
<BR>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BR>
<BR>Actually, I was thinking about the rest of you going.
<BR>
<BR>Ralph</FONT></HTML>
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Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 13:12:35 EDT
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From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Conservation: Afterwards
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In a message dated 7/22/2002 12:42:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> Ralph, I sure woulda wet my pants laughing. If you'd just come visit me I
> coulda give you a whole bunch of old screwdrivers and other useless tools.
> Then I wouldn't have had to bother to move them.
>
> IF I should ever come to your area I'll bring my own screwdrivers thanks.
> I'll bet they cost more down there where everybody is rich and famous.
>
> Let me know when you are coming this way again and I'll give you a private
> showing of old tools you never knew existed and certainly didn't know you
> needed. Ruth
Ruth,
You REALLY know how to hurt a guy.
Maybe I should move in with your son, husband and father, and send you down
to Joisey to hone Mrs. Ralph's torture skills. Not that she needs it.
I already have plenty of tools that I didn't know existed, or that I needed
them, until I saw them. Not that I couldn't use a few more, though. Among
my oddities, possession-wise, are a pair of fencing pliers which as I think
about it, I actually used recently to take apart a chain link fence.
Ralph
PS-- No screen dewaxers, though.
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 7/22/2002 12:42:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
<BR>
<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Ralph, I sure woulda wet my pants laughing. If you'd just come visit me I
<BR>coulda give you a whole bunch of old screwdrivers and other useless tools.
<BR>Then I wouldn't have had to bother to move them.
<BR>
<BR>IF I should ever come to your area I'll bring my own screwdrivers thanks.
<BR>I'll bet they cost more down there where everybody is rich and famous.
<BR>
<BR>Let me know when you are coming this way again and I'll give you a private
<BR>showing of old tools you never knew existed and certainly didn't know you
<BR>needed. Ruth</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BR>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">
<BR>Ruth,
<BR>
<BR>You REALLY know how to hurt a guy.
<BR>
<BR>Maybe I should move in with your son, husband and father, and send you down to Joisey to hone Mrs. Ralph's torture skills. Not that she needs it.
<BR>
<BR>I already have plenty of tools that I didn't know existed, or that I needed them, until I saw them. Not that I couldn't use a few more, though. Among my oddities, possession-wise, are a pair of fencing pliers which as I think about it, I actually used recently to take apart a chain link fence.
<BR>
<BR>Ralph
<BR>
<BR>PS-- No screen dewaxers, though.
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Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 13:51:25 EDT
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From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: summer in London
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In a message dated 7/22/2002 10:09:17 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
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> Actually, I was thinking about the rest of you going.
Not going without you... so mind your peas & Q's.
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 7/22/2002 10:09:17 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Actually, I was thinking about the rest of you going. </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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Not going without you... so mind your peas & Q's.<BR>
<BR>
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Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 13:57:04 EDT
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From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: summer in London
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In a message dated 7/22/2002 1:51:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask]
writes:
> Not going without you... so mind your peas & Q's.
>
>
Well, then we'll just stay home together separately, and Chrif can fool
around with his screens by himself. It's his loss, not ours.
Ralph
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 7/22/2002 1:51:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
<BR>
<BR>
<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Not going without you... so mind your peas & Q's.
<BR>
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<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">
<BR>Well, then we'll just stay home together separately, and Chrif can fool around with his screens by himself. It's his loss, not ours.
<BR>
<BR>Ralph</FONT></HTML>
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Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 14:27:49 EDT
Reply-To: "Darling,
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From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: summer in London
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In a message dated 7/22/2002 10:57:42 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
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> Well, then we'll just stay home together separately, and Chrif can fool
> around with his screens by himself. It's his loss, not ours.
We could send him a complimentary box of BP fire sticks.
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 7/22/2002 10:57:42 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Well, then we'll just stay home together separately, and Chrif can fool around with his screens by himself. It's his loss, not ours. </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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We could send him a complimentary box of BP fire sticks.<BR>
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> We could send him a complimentary box of BP fire sticks.
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][<en,
You buy the fire sticks, and sign my name to the card. We can use all the
dues we've collected for the postage. Plus the $6.99 Ruth thinks I overpaid
for the $7 genuine antique Vermont screwdriver.
NOW I understand why everybody hates it when I say "I told you so."
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<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">We could send him a complimentary box of BP fire sticks.
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<BR>You buy the fire sticks, and sign my name to the card. We can use all the dues we've collected for the postage. Plus the $6.99 Ruth thinks I overpaid for the $7 genuine antique Vermont screwdriver.
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<BR>NOW I understand why everybody hates it when I say "I told you so."
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> Was the St John's deal "legitimate
I'm not sure but I know that the Diocese sold the Tiffanys. Maybe what
happened is that the Koreans weren't able to come up with the cash. I met
some of them when I was taking out the Tiffs.
I don't think I met Dennis but I forget the name of the man who was
involved.
I'm sorry to hear that the Koreans didn't take over. Sometimes that is a
solution for the continuation
of the church.
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><B> Was the St John's deal "legitimate</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE></B><BR>
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I'm not sure but I know that the Diocese sold the Tiffanys. Maybe what happened is that the Koreans weren't able to come up with the cash. I met some of them when I was taking out the Tiffs.<BR>
I don't think I met Dennis but I forget the name of the man who was involved. <BR>
I'm sorry to hear that the Koreans didn't take over. Sometimes that is a solution for the continuation<BR>
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At 1:12 PM -0400 7/22/02, Ralph Walter wrote:
Ruth,
You REALLY know how to hurt a guy.
Maybe I should move in with your son, husband and father, and send you down
to Joisey to hone Mrs. Ralph's torture skills. Not that she needs it.
I already have plenty of tools that I didn't know existed, or that I needed
them, until I saw them. Not that I couldn't use a few more, though.
Among my oddities, possession-wise, are a pair of fencing pliers which as
I think about it, I actually used recently to take apart a chain link fence.
Ralph
PS-- No screen dewaxers, though.
Ralph, We don't have no screen dewaxers, we're not such hot
housekeepers--don't wax our screens. So we don't need to dewax them. But
I'll bet a blowtorch would do the job, and I might just have one of those
kicking around either here or at Dad's. Ruth
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Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 20:25:45 -0700
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At 1:12 PM -0400 7/22/02, Ralph Walter wrote:
In a message dated 7/22/2002 12:42:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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Ruth,
You REALLY know how to hurt a guy.
Maybe I should move in with your son, husband and father, and send you down
to Joisey to hone Mrs. Ralph's torture skills. Not that she needs it.
I already have plenty of tools that I didn't know existed, or that I needed
them, until I saw them. Not that I couldn't use a few more, though.
Among my oddities, possession-wise, are a pair of fencing pliers which as
I think about it, I actually used recently to take apart a chain link fence.
Ralph
PS-- No screen dewaxers, though.
Ralph, Merrill had an old fencing tool, some years back, that had set out
in the weather a mite too long and got froze up. Danged thing was plumb
worthless. Well, we got this assistant head at the school where we do a
lot of work, thinks he's quite a tool aficionado. One day he found the
fencing tool in a heap of junk we were going to throw in the dumpster and
next thing we knew it was hanging on the wall in the workshop. Don't think
he ever did find out what it was used for though. Ruth
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Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 08:23:00 EDT
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> .
Is there a wax de-screener? I could just get rid of the screening and keep
the wax.
Sign me, Massuh Kurtz
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<BR>Is there a wax de-screener? I could just get rid of the screening and keep the wax.
<BR>Sign me, Massuh Kurtz
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Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 08:41:36 EDT
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In a message dated 7/23/02 6:24:26 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask]
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> Ralph, Merrill had an old fencing tool, some years back, that had set out
> in the weather a mite too long and got froze up. Danged thing was plumb
> worthless. Well, we got this assistant head at the school where we do a
> lot of work, thinks he's quite a tool aficionado. One day he found the
> fencing tool in a heap of junk we were going to throw in the dumpster and
> next thing we knew it was hanging on the wall in the workshop. Don't think
> he ever did find out what it was used for though.
Ruth,
If only I'd knew ye then. Took me awhile to figure out the fence tool, too.
The miraculous part is that there came a time when I actually used it for
its' intended purpose!
Ralph
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<BR>
<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Ralph, Merrill had an old fencing tool, some years back, that had set out<BR>
in the weather a mite too long and got froze up. Danged thing was plumb<BR>
worthless. Well, we got this assistant head at the school where we do a<BR>
lot of work, thinks he's quite a tool aficionado. One day he found the<BR>
fencing tool in a heap of junk we were going to throw in the dumpster and<BR>
next thing we knew it was hanging on the wall in the workshop. Don't think<BR>
he ever did find out what it was used for though. </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
<BR>
Ruth,<BR>
<BR>
If only I'd knew ye then. Took me awhile to figure out the fence tool, too. The miraculous part is that there came a time when I actually used it for its' intended purpose!<BR>
<BR>
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Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 08:46:52 EDT
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Subject: Re: Conservation: Afterwards - new tool
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In a message dated 7/23/02 7:23:38 AM Eastern Standard Time,
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> Is there a wax de-screener? I could just get rid of the screening and keep
> the wax.
>
Send your dues and we'll tell you. But first you gotta tell us what material
the screens are. Copper? Aluminum? Fiberglass? White bronze? If they're
titanium screens, I bet you could send them direct to Steve Jobs, with the
wax still on them. Whyn'cha try that, for starters?
Which reminds me: Do you know what comes from Johnson's ears? Johnson's
wax.
Have a bitchen summer.
Ralph
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 7/23/02 7:23:38 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Is there a wax de-screener? I could just get rid of the screening and keep the wax. <BR>
</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
Send your dues and we'll tell you. But first you gotta tell us what material the screens are. Copper? Aluminum? Fiberglass? White bronze? If they're titanium screens, I bet you could send them direct to Steve Jobs, with the wax still on them. Whyn'cha try that, for starters?<BR>
<BR>
Which reminds me: Do you know what comes from Johnson's ears? Johnson's wax.<BR>
<BR>
Have a bitchen summer.<BR>
<BR>
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Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 09:13:29 EDT
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In a message dated 7/23/02 5:39:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask]
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> don't think I met Dennis but I forget the name of the man who was
> involved.
> I'm sorry to hear that the Koreans didn't take over. Sometimes that is a
> solution for the continuation of the church.
>
Jim,
Having left there 18 years ago, and remembering only fragments of whatever
Dennis told me about the "death" of the church, what I assume happened is
that Spong decided to raise revenue by selling the Tiffany windows, cut back
diocesan expenses by shutting dowan a church that was probably quite poorly
attended at best, and in the bargain, get rid of my friend Dennis (a former
Catholic, a former newspaper reporter who makes his living as a landlord in
the area around St. John's, and who can be quite a maneuverer and operator)
and his friends (perhaps a few old-time Episcopalians and some more former
Catholics, for the most part) who didn't care for Spong's redirection of
funds to broad social welfare schemes at the expense of Church buildings,
notably the church building in their neighborhood. I don't remember Dennis
(who lives just down the street from St. John's) mentioning the Koreans, but
I can see where he wouldn't have wanted them to take over. On the other
hand, is the church better off being used and screwed up, or remaining on the
list of most endangered sites in Joisey?
Enough of boring the rest of the Pinheads with these parochial matters.
Ralph
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<BR>
<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"> don't think I met Dennis but I forget the name of the man who was involved. <BR>
I'm sorry to hear that the Koreans didn't take over. Sometimes that is a solution for the continuation of the church.<BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
Jim,<BR>
<BR>
Having left there 18 years ago, and remembering only fragments of whatever Dennis told me about the "death" of the church, what I assume happened is that Spong decided to raise revenue by selling the Tiffany windows, cut back diocesan expenses by shutting dowan a church that was probably quite poorly attended at best, and in the bargain, get rid of my friend Dennis (a former Catholic, a former newspaper reporter who makes his living as a landlord in the area around St. John's, and who can be quite a maneuverer and operator) and his friends (perhaps a few old-time Episcopalians and some more former Catholics, for the most part) who didn't care for Spong's redirection of funds to broad social welfare schemes at the expense of Church buildings, notably the church building in their neighborhood. I don't remember Dennis (who lives just down the street from St. John's) mentioning the Koreans, but I can see where he wouldn't have wanted them to take over. On the other hand, is the church better off being used and screwed up, or remaining on the list of most endangered sites in Joisey?<BR>
<BR>
Enough of boring the rest of the Pinheads with these parochial matters.<BR>
<BR>
Ralph</FONT></HTML>
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Chris ; Last night as I set the jib for the sunset run;
I could spy the far reach of the Vineyard;
my first summer jobs were building roads there;
where we unearthed many 19 cent artifacts (dolls,arrowheads and an 1830
penny ) back home I have an 1860 travelers account
of what the island was like.....includung a ( Frog ) rock that was revered by
the indains.......Michael
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>Chris ; Last night as I set the jib for the sunset run;
<BR> I could spy the far reach of the Vineyard;
<BR>my first summer jobs were building roads there;
<BR> where we unearthed many 19 cent artifacts (dolls,arrowheads and an 1830 penny ) back home I have an 1860 travelers account
<BR>of what the island was like.....includung a ( Frog ) rock that was revered by the indains.......Michael</FONT></HTML>
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> ; Last night as I set the jib for the sunset run;
>
Pyrate,
Yo, ho, ho and a bottle of rum. Maybe Chrif should try pouring rum on his
waxed screens. After he strains it through his kidneys, one hopes.
Ralph
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<BR>
<BR>
<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">; Last night as I set the jib for the sunset run;
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<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Pyrate,
<BR>
<BR>Yo, ho, ho and a bottle of rum. Maybe Chrif should try pouring rum on his waxed screens. After he strains it through his kidneys, one hopes.
<BR>
<BR>Ralph</FONT></HTML>
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Christopher
RAH is indeed circular in plan, and the roof is
basically a shallow dome. The monorail is also
circular - it runs around the perimeter of the Hall
roof.
david
> David, I recall the Royal Albert Hall as round in
> plan. What kind of
> monorail setup
> handles a round ceiling? I'm thinking of sewage
> aerators. Christopher Gray
> in Martha's Vineyard
>
> PS That damn paraffin that some idiot said to put
> on my porch screens (to
> permit the surface tension of the water to block
> rain blow-through) not only
> did not work, it is still there, gumming up the
> view! Someone send me a
> flamethrower - or wax-eating bugs.
>
>
http://www.sold.com.au - SOLD.com.au
- Find yourself a bargain!
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Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 16:50:13 EDT
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From: Met History <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: It was John Leeke who told me to put wax on the screens!!! I
looked...
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...it up in the archives, and he was the one who told me to put Thompson's=20
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fault. =A0John, if I remove the screens and place them over a roaring fire f=
or=20
an hour, =A0would that remove the wax from my screens?=20
Sign me, Anyone Need 0.98 gallon of Thompson's?=20
....................................................................
From: "John Leeke, Preservation Consultant"< [log in to unmask]
>
Subject: Rain-proofing screen
Ralph sez:<<Seems to me that what you are trying to do in essence is to=20
=A0weatherproof a screened porch exposed to marine conditions, without reduc=
ing=20
=A0the vapor transmission of the voids in the screen; and that this may -- j=
ust=20
=A0may -- be somewhat self defeating, >>
Perhaps not mutually exclusive.The following demonstration of water-repellin=
g=20
=A0capability of Thompson'sWaterseal water-repellent was described to me by=20=
the=20
=A0chemist who designed around of refinements to this product in the early=20
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se=20
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ce=20
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=A0openings ofthe cheese cloth. It is held in place by a combination of the=20
=A0surface tension of the water and the "static pressure" created by=20
=A0thewater-repellant oils on each strand of the cloth. Next pour out the=20
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=20
thatmay be mentioned. =A0Dis-regard any facts presented or implications made=
=20
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ve the wax from my screens?=20
<BR>
<BR>Sign me, Anyone Need 0.98 gallon of Thompson's?=20
<BR>
<BR>....................................................................
<BR>From: "John Leeke, Preservation Consultant"< johnleeke@HISTORICHOMEWO=
RKS.COM>
<BR>
<BR>Subject: Rain-proofing screen
<BR>
<BR>Ralph sez:<<Seems to me that what you are trying to do in essence=20=
is to =A0weatherproof a screened porch exposed to marine conditions, without=
reducing =A0the vapor transmission of the voids in the screen; and that thi=
s may -- just =A0may -- be somewhat self defeating, >>
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roduct thatmay be mentioned. =A0Dis-regard any facts presented or implicatio=
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It is amazing how much logic there is in Ralph's sinisisim. It is difficult
to listen one someone tells you that you can not have it both ways. It looks
like Ralph told you so!
-----Original Message-----
From: Met History [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 3:50 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: It was John Leeke who told me to put wax on the screens!!! I
looked...
...it up in the archives, and he was the one who told me to put Thompson's
waterseal on the screens! He added a weasel-clause, but it is still his
fault. John, if I remove the screens and place them over a roaring fire for
an hour, would that remove the wax from my screens?
Sign me, Anyone Need 0.98 gallon of Thompson's?
....................................................................
From: "John Leeke, Preservation Consultant"<
[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Rain-proofing screen
Ralph sez:<<Seems to me that what you are trying to do in essence is to
weatherproof a screened porch exposed to marine conditions, without reducing
the vapor transmission of the voids in the screen; and that this may -- just
may -- be somewhat self defeating, >>
Perhaps not mutually exclusive.The following demonstration of
water-repelling capability of Thompson'sWaterseal water-repellent was
described to me by the chemist who designed around of refinements to this
product in the early 1990s. Take an 18" square of a single layer of cheese
cloth. Dip the cheese cloth in the water-repellent. Allow to dry. Lay the
cloth on a flat surface and gather upall four corners forming a pocket.
Slowly pur 2 cups of water into thepocket. Ta-daaaaaaaaa. The water does
not drain out through the openings ofthe cheese cloth. It is held in place
by a combination of the surface tension of the water and the "static
pressure" created by thewater-repellant oils on each strand of the cloth.
Next pour out the waterand blow through the cloth -- air still moves freely
through it. I performed this demonstration myself, it did work as
described.
(NB: I have never used Thompson's Waterseal on porch screens. Your mileage
may vary. This exposition does not imply an endorsement of any product
thatmay be mentioned. Dis-regard any facts presented or implications made
here.John Leeke will not assume any responsibility for how well you may or
maynot have learned common sence from your mommy.) John Leeke
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<DIV><SPAN class=955580512-24072002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>It is
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Met History
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 23, 2002 3:50
PM<BR><B>To:</B> [log in to unmask]<BR><B>Subject:</B>
It was John Leeke who told me to put wax on the screens!!! I
looked...<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT size=3>...it up
in the archives, and he was the one who told me to put Thompson's waterseal on
the screens! He added a weasel-clause, but it is still his fault. John,
if I remove the screens and place them over a roaring fire for an hour,
would that remove the wax from my screens? <BR><BR>Sign me, Anyone Need
0.98 gallon of Thompson's?
<BR><BR>....................................................................
<BR>From: "John Leeke, Preservation Consultant"<
[log in to unmask]> <BR><BR>Subject: Rain-proofing screen
<BR><BR>Ralph sez:<<Seems to me that what you are trying to do in
essence is to weatherproof a screened porch exposed to marine
conditions, without reducing the vapor transmission of the voids in the
screen; and that this may -- just may -- be somewhat self defeating,
>> <BR><BR>Perhaps not mutually exclusive.The following demonstration of
water-repelling capability of Thompson'sWaterseal water-repellent was
described to me by the chemist who designed around of refinements to
this product in the early 1990s. Take an 18" square of a single layer of
cheese cloth. Dip the cheese cloth in the water-repellent. Allow to dry.
Lay the cloth on a flat surface and gather upall four corners forming a
pocket. Slowly pur 2 cups of water into thepocket. Ta-daaaaaaaaa. The
water does not drain out through the openings ofthe cheese cloth. It is
held in place by a combination of the surface tension of the water and
the "static pressure" created by thewater-repellant oils on each strand
of the cloth. Next pour out the waterand blow through the cloth -- air
still moves freely through it. I performed this demonstration myself, it
did work as described. <BR><BR>(NB: I have never used Thompson's
Waterseal on porch screens. Your mileage may vary. This exposition
does not imply an endorsement of any product thatmay be mentioned.
Dis-regard any facts presented or implications made here.John Leeke will
not assume any responsibility for how well you may or maynot have
learned common sence from your mommy.) John Leeke
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From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: It was John Leeke who told me to put wax on the screens!!! I
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In a message dated 7/23/2002 4:51:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> Anyone Need 0.98 gallon of Thompson's?
>
>
Put a stamp on the can and send it to Yucca Mountain.
Ralph
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 7/23/2002 4:51:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
<BR>
<BR>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="arial" LANG="0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Anyone Need 0.98 gallon of Thompson's?
<BR>
<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Put a stamp on the can and send it to Yucca Mountain.
<BR>
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Reply-To: "Darling,
all I want is that you should be a pinhead -- Arlene Croce"
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From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: It was John Leeke who told me to put wax on the screens!!! I
looked...
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In a message dated 7/24/2002 8:11:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
> It is amazing how much logic there is in Ralph's sinisisim. It is difficult
> to listen one someone tells you that you can not have it both ways. It
> looks like Ralph told you so!
>
Bob,
Consider yourself exempted from paying dues. There is, however, a backcharge
for misspelling, but under the circumstances, I think we will suspend it.
Ralph
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 7/24/2002 8:11:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
<BR>
<BR>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#0000ff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">It is amazing how much logic there is in Ralph's sinisisim. It is difficult to listen one someone tells you that you can not have it both ways. It looks like Ralph told you so!</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">
<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BR>
<BR>Bob,
<BR>
<BR>Consider yourself exempted from paying dues. There is, however, a backcharge for misspelling, but under the circumstances, I think we will suspend it.
<BR>
<BR>Ralph</FONT></HTML>
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Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 09:34:43 -0500
Reply-To: "Darling,
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I just call them like i see them! Besides I thiough I was promoted to
treasure and therefore already granted myself a lifetime exemtion from dues
and spelling fines
-----Original Message-----
From: Ralph Walter [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 9:29 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: It was John Leeke who told me to put wax on the screens!!! I
looked...
In a message dated 7/24/2002 8:11:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
It is amazing how much logic there is in Ralph's sinisisim. It is difficult
to listen one someone tells you that you can not have it both ways. It looks
like Ralph told you so!
Bob,
Consider yourself exempted from paying dues. There is, however, a
backcharge for misspelling, but under the circumstances, I think we will
suspend it.
Ralph
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<DIV><SPAN class=908333314-24072002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I just
call them like i see them! Besides I thiough I was promoted to treasure and
therefore already granted myself a lifetime exemtion from dues and spelling
fines</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Ralph Walter
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 24, 2002 9:29
AM<BR><B>To:</B> [log in to unmask]<BR><B>Subject:</B>
Re: It was John Leeke who told me to put wax on the screens!!! I
looked...<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT size=2>In a
message dated 7/24/2002 8:11:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[log in to unmask] writes: <BR><BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"
TYPE="CITE">It is amazing how much logic there is in Ralph's sinisisim. It
is difficult to listen one someone tells you that you can not have it both
ways. It looks like Ralph told you so!</FONT><FONT lang=0 face=Arial
color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>Bob,
<BR><BR>Consider yourself exempted from paying dues. There is, however,
a backcharge for misspelling, but under the circumstances, I think we will
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Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 11:59:57 EDT
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In a message dated 7/24/2002 10:16:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> Put a stamp on the can and send it to Yucca Mountain.
Send it to the Dept. of Energy's Savannah River Plant in Aiken, SC along with
our Communist Russian spent fuel. Don't you just love our government. I guess
I better be careful Tommy Ridge might come kick my door in or wire tap me.
Steve
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<BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Put a stamp on the can and send it to Yucca Mountain. </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=4 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Goudy Old Style" LANG="0"><BR>
Send it to the Dept. of Energy's Savannah River Plant in Aiken, SC along with our Communist Russian spent fuel. Don't you just love our government. I guess I better be careful Tommy Ridge might come kick my door in or wire tap me.<BR>
<BR>
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Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:39:38 -0400
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Instructions for disposing of 0.98 gallons of Thompson's Waterseal:
1. Apply liberally to any exterior building surface.
2. Wait 4 months.
Mike E.
> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not
understand
> this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.
>
>
> It is amazing how much logic there is in Ralph's sinisisim. It is
difficult
> to listen one someone tells you that you can not have it both ways.
It looks
> like Ralph told you so!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Met History [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 3:50 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: It was John Leeke who told me to put wax on the screens!!! I
> looked...
>
>
> ...it up in the archives, and he was the one who told me to put
Thompson's
> waterseal on the screens! He added a weasel-clause, but it is still
his
> fault. John, if I remove the screens and place them over a roaring
fire for
> an hour, would that remove the wax from my screens?
>
> Sign me, Anyone Need 0.98 gallon of Thompson's?
>
> ....................................................................
> From: "John Leeke, Preservation Consultant"<
> [log in to unmask]>
>
> Subject: Rain-proofing screen
>
> Ralph sez:<<Seems to me that what you are trying to do in essence is
to
> weatherproof a screened porch exposed to marine conditions, without
reducing
> the vapor transmission of the voids in the screen; and that this
may -- just
> may -- be somewhat self defeating, >>
>
> Perhaps not mutually exclusive.The following demonstration of
> water-repelling capability of Thompson'sWaterseal water-repellent
was
> described to me by the chemist who designed around of refinements
to this
> product in the early 1990s. Take an 18" square of a single layer of
cheese
> cloth. Dip the cheese cloth in the water-repellent. Allow to dry.
Lay the
> cloth on a flat surface and gather upall four corners forming a
pocket.
> Slowly pur 2 cups of water into thepocket. Ta-daaaaaaaaa. The water
does
> not drain out through the openings ofthe cheese cloth. It is held
in place
> by a combination of the surface tension of the water and the "static
> pressure" created by thewater-repellant oils on each strand of the
cloth.
> Next pour out the waterand blow through the cloth -- air still
moves freely
> through it. I performed this demonstration myself, it did work as
> described.
>
> (NB: I have never used Thompson's Waterseal on porch screens. Your
mileage
> may vary. This exposition does not imply an endorsement of any
product
> thatmay be mentioned. Dis-regard any facts presented or
implications made
> here.John Leeke will not assume any responsibility for how well you
may or
> maynot have learned common sence from your mommy.) John Leeke
>
>
>
>
>
>
Edison Coatings, Inc.
M. P. Edison
President
3 Northwest Drive
Plainville, CT 06062 USA
Phone: (860)747-2220
Fax: (860)747-2280
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Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 08:34:33 -0400
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Met History writes:
>>It was John Leeke who told me to put wax on the screens!!! I looked...
One of the neatest things about getting older is that I have had the
opportunity to learn from more of my mistakes. It still surprises me that
people listen to what I have to say, but I like it when they get back to me
with their failures because I can learn from their mistakes as well--sort of
a "compounding of the errors." I'm sorry you have a problem with your
screens, but I do thank you for teaching me one more thing about water
repellants.
John Leeke
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Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 18:16:15 EDT
Reply-To: "Darling,
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Subject: Re: It was John Leeke who told me to put wax on the screens!!! I
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In a message dated 7/24/2002 10:38:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> I just call them like i see them! Besides I thiough I was promoted to
> treasure and therefore already granted myself a lifetime exemtion from dues
>
Bob,
It would appear that your sight and calling are just fine, but I don' know
that our revenue stream can afford to let you off the hook for a lifetime of
spelling fines.
Ralph
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 7/24/2002 10:38:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
<BR>
<BR>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#0000ff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I just call them like i see them! Besides I thiough I was promoted to treasure and therefore already granted myself a lifetime exemtion from dues and spelling fines</BLOCKQUOTE>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">
<BR>Bob,
<BR>
<BR>It would appear that your sight and calling are just fine, but I don' know that our revenue stream can afford to let you off the hook for a lifetime of spelling fines.
<BR>
<BR>Ralph</FONT></HTML>
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Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 18:22:43 EDT
Reply-To: "Darling,
all I want is that you should be a pinhead -- Arlene Croce"
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Subject: Re: It was John Leeke who told me to put wax on the screens!!! I
looked...
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In a message dated 7/24/2002 12:01:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
> Send it to the Dept. of Energy's Savannah River Plant in Aiken, SC along
> with our Communist Russian spent fuel. Don't you just love our government.
> I guess I better be careful Tommy Ridge might come kick my door in or wire
> tap me.
Steve,
Lucky for that we know you're a loyal Southern Republican redneck. God knows
what some Commie liberal pinko fag might have to say about Ridge, Ashcroft &
Co.
Lucky for Missy Julep and me that New Jersey's full of just plain ol' toxic
waste already, and we don't have room for that radioactive shit.
Ralph
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 7/24/2002 12:01:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
<BR>
<BR>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=4 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Goudy Old Style" LANG="0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Send it to the Dept. of Energy's Savannah River Plant in Aiken, SC along with our Communist Russian spent fuel. Don't you just love our government. I guess I better be careful Tommy Ridge might come kick my door in or wire tap me.</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Goudy Old Style" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">
<BR>Steve,
<BR>
<BR>Lucky for that we know you're a loyal Southern Republican redneck. God knows what some Commie liberal pinko fag might have to say about Ridge, Ashcroft & Co.
<BR>
<BR>Lucky for Missy Julep and me that New Jersey's full of just plain ol' toxic waste already, and we don't have room for that radioactive shit.
<BR>
<BR>Ralph
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Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 18:29:26 EDT
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all I want is that you should be a pinhead -- Arlene Croce"
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In a message dated 7/24/2002 4:57:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> It still surprises me that people listen to what I have to say, but I like
> it when they get back to me with their failures because I can learn from
> their mistakes as well--sort of a "compounding of the errors."
Bravo, John! How would we learn anything if we couldn't people into being
our guinea pigs? Good thing this is backchannel, huh?
Ralph
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<BR>
<BR>
<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">It still surprises me that people listen to what I have to say, but I like it when they get back to me with their failures because I can learn from their mistakes as well--sort of a "compounding of the errors."</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">
<BR>Bravo, John! How would we learn anything if we couldn't people into being our guinea pigs? Good thing this is backchannel, huh?
<BR>
<BR>Ralph </FONT></HTML>
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Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 07:13:46 -0500
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ralf ief yew wnt t b lke tht, thin I wil jest haf t stoop rittin cuse mi
site mite b fine but mi pokets is empte
-----Original Message-----
From: Ralph Walter [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 5:16 PM
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looked...
In a message dated 7/24/2002 10:38:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
I just call them like i see them! Besides I thiough I was promoted to
treasure and therefore already granted myself a lifetime exemtion from dues
and spelling fines
Bob,
It would appear that your sight and calling are just fine, but I don' know
that our revenue stream can afford to let you off the hook for a lifetime of
spelling fines.
Ralph
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<DIV><SPAN class=453381512-25072002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>ralf
ief yew wnt t b lke tht, thin I wil jest haf t stoop rittin cuse mi site mite b
fine but mi pokets is empte</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Ralph Walter
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 24, 2002 5:16
PM<BR><B>To:</B> [log in to unmask]<BR><B>Subject:</B>
Re: It was John Leeke who told me to put wax on the screens!!! I
looked...<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT size=2>In a
message dated 7/24/2002 10:38:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[log in to unmask] writes: <BR><BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"
TYPE="CITE">I just call them like i see them! Besides I thiough I was
promoted to treasure and therefore already granted myself a lifetime
exemtion from dues and spelling fines</BLOCKQUOTE><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0
face=Arial color=#000000 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR>Bob, <BR><BR>It would
appear that your sight and calling are just fine, but I don' know that our
revenue stream can afford to let you off the hook for a lifetime of spelling
fines. <BR><BR>Ralph</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 08:40:27 EDT
Reply-To: "Darling,
all I want is that you should be a pinhead -- Arlene Croce"
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In a message dated 7/25/2002 8:16:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> ralf ief yew wnt t b lke tht, thin I wil jest haf t stoop rittin cuse mi
> site mite b fine but mi pokets is empte
>
All right here we go again! I demand that someone in this group start
teaching the rest of us illiterates how to speak all of these Pinhead
languages. When I joined this group I never remember reading anything
pertaining to language requirements. I want my money back.
St evan
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<BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#0000ff" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">ralf ief yew wnt t b lke tht, thin I wil jest haf t stoop rittin cuse mi site mite b fine but mi pokets is empte</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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All right here we go again! I demand that someone in this group start teaching the rest of us illiterates how to speak all of these Pinhead languages. When I joined this group I never remember reading anything pertaining to language requirements. I want my money back.<BR>
<BR>
St evan</FONT></HTML>
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Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 09:48:10 EDT
Reply-To: "Darling,
all I want is that you should be a pinhead -- Arlene Croce"
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From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: It was John Leeke who told me to put wax on the screens!!! I
looked...
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[log in to unmask] writes:
> ralf ief yew wnt t b lke tht, thin I wil jest haf t stoop rittin cuse mi
> site mite b fine but mi pokets is empte
>
bob (and ee cummings)
my sight isn't so good, and my heart is worse, but my pockets are empty, too.
sign me,
masonite cows for sale cheap
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<BR>
<BR>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#0000ff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">ralf ief yew wnt t b lke tht, thin I wil jest haf t stoop rittin cuse mi site mite b fine but mi pokets is empte</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">
<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BR>
<BR>bob (and ee cummings)
<BR>
<BR>my sight isn't so good, and my heart is worse, but my pockets are empty, too.
<BR>
<BR>sign me,
<BR>
<BR>masonite cows for sale cheap </FONT></HTML>
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Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 09:51:37 EDT
Reply-To: "Darling,
all I want is that you should be a pinhead -- Arlene Croce"
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From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: It was John Leeke who told me to put wax on the screens!!! I
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In a message dated 7/25/2002 8:41:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> . I want my money back.
>
>
Steve,
Whaddaya mean, "back"?
Did we tell you to invest in Enron, Worldcom, or Adelphia?
Ralph
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<BR>
<BR>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=4 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Goudy Old Style" LANG="0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">. I want my money back.
<BR>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Goudy Old Style" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Steve,
<BR>
<BR>Whaddaya mean, "back"?
<BR>
<BR>Did we tell you to invest in Enron, Worldcom, or Adelphia?
<BR>
<BR>Ralph</FONT></HTML>
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Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:47:47 EDT
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Life is funny;late the other night there was a smokey haze from a Quebec
forrest fire ;the following was just after work
Grand Central
Like an 800 lb elephant,a low smokey haze settles over the duece(42 street)
plunging the Great White Way into a garish half light of another time.
Empty cabs ;like fireflys in a dirty fog; jitterbug over pot holes and
nibbling at shadows that scurry east to West near the famous cross roads.
Their tired tire treads pull at the sticky asphalt delivering a cadence of
guttural "clicks" to the tires movement as they cruise Park and Madison
Its hot; at 1 am on a weekday ;most people drift over to the west side where
the resturants ; diners and clubs tend to stay open longer; as do the hookers
, grifters and street people who follow like floatsum off a barge.
Not me; I head for a little bistro off Grand Central where the
bartender suffers from the gift of sports gab and a case of the heavy pour.
We worked hard on our stone tonight and got alot done .
The card game at 11 pm break went well too ;
I took a "Grant and a "jefferson " with three "old men" in seven card draw
;We played atop the Old Pan Am by the lights of our rigs
"Read and weep " .... I answered ; when I was called on my cards .
The union steward who held 3 tens was taciturn; ...a lighting storm reflected
from far off on Brooklyns breezy point; I could see it in his eyes.
The cash felt good in the pocket ; the two notes giggled like kissing cousins
under blankets as I steer clear the taxis towards the bistro.
The bartender is a friend of mine; we talk British Open and the demise of the
Sox (red sox ) by the Yankees.
I order a Ceaser; and he pours me a large glass of chilled Graves.
The Graves cuts the nights heat like a knife.
Like a rouge wave the second taste crashes the dust of the gates at the
back of the palate and sets them ardrift in a bite of freshness.
We contemplate Elles victory at Muirfield in The Open ; and the tragic
performance of Sox pitching up in the Bronx.The wine is heady; and sooths the
beast of frustration of a Sox fan in New York
The only other patron on this gloomy night is an old Roue' who tottered in
with an ancient overnight bag wearing a Red Book suit with matching hat from
the salvation army.
She sits at a table facing the street and staring to the night. Her skin is
parchment white and is drawn tight over cracked lips ; slashed broadly with
cosmetic red.
Pancake rouge settles round and clownlike on her cheeks as she orders
her a glass through watery blue eyes.
Its odd to see the old at this hour in this city . They wander the streets as
if in a time warp; the vibrantcy of the city dismisses them like so much
passing litter.You wonder where they go ; and who cares for them.
I pay for her glass; and she smiles at us with parched lips and stained
teeth as she raises it to our health. Her watery blue eyes clearly thankfull
for some small communal kindness from strangers.
We resume our dialouge as the smokey fog closes in; she stares off into it as
a distant mirror to some by gone age when her blood was young and the only
stares she got were for her stylish poise and good looks
With memory and body fading ; they hold on to the physical in bizzare ways
appearing like wreckage with bows tied atop them. Broadway bijous (Jewles)
waiting for trains that never come; talking to people long gone.
The weather outside is cruel; the distant storm opens up a cloud
burst;pouring hard ; I turn towards the lady and discover she has gone . Only
her empty glass suggesting her presnce.
The porter mops up as its time to close..I stare vacantly into the empty
streets and pouring gloom..not a cab to be seen ....I stare way up to Grand
Central and see a lone shadow with suit case hobbling unsteady to its golden
light.
Michael july/o2
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>Life is funny;late the other night there was a smokey haze from a Quebec forrest fire ;the following was just after work
<BR>
<BR>Grand Central
<BR>
<BR>Like an 800 lb elephant,a low smokey haze settles over the duece(42 street) plunging the Great White Way into a garish half light of another time.
<BR>
<BR>Empty cabs ;like fireflys in a dirty fog; jitterbug over pot holes and nibbling at shadows that scurry east to West near the famous cross roads.
<BR>Their tired tire treads pull at the sticky asphalt delivering a cadence of guttural "clicks" to the tires movement as they cruise Park and Madison
<BR>Its hot; at 1 am on a weekday ;most people drift over to the west side where the resturants ; diners and clubs tend to stay open longer; as do the hookers , grifters and street people who follow like floatsum off a barge.
<BR> Not me; I head for a little bistro off Grand Central where the bartender suffers from the gift of sports gab and a case of the heavy pour.
<BR>We worked hard on our stone tonight and got alot done .
<BR>The card game at 11 pm break went well too ;
<BR> I took a "Grant and a "jefferson " with three "old men" in seven card draw ;We played atop the Old Pan Am by the lights of our rigs
<BR>"Read and weep " .... I answered ; when I was called on my cards .
<BR>The union steward who held 3 tens was taciturn; ...a lighting storm reflected from far off on Brooklyns breezy point; I could see it in his eyes.
<BR>
<BR>The cash felt good in the pocket ; the two notes giggled like kissing cousins under blankets as I steer clear the taxis towards the bistro.
<BR>The bartender is a friend of mine; we talk British Open and the demise of the Sox (red sox ) by the Yankees.
<BR>I order a Ceaser; and he pours me a large glass of chilled Graves.
<BR>The Graves cuts the nights heat like a knife.
<BR>Like a rouge wave the second taste crashes the dust of the gates at the back of the palate and sets them ardrift in a bite of freshness.
<BR>We contemplate Elles victory at Muirfield in The Open ; and the tragic performance of Sox pitching up in the Bronx.The wine is heady; and sooths the beast of frustration of a Sox fan in New York
<BR>
<BR>The only other patron on this gloomy night is an old Roue' who tottered in with an ancient overnight bag wearing a Red Book suit with matching hat from the salvation army.
<BR>She sits at a table facing the street and staring to the night. Her skin is parchment white and is drawn tight over cracked lips ; slashed broadly with cosmetic red.
<BR> Pancake rouge settles round and clownlike on her cheeks as she orders her a glass through watery blue eyes.
<BR>
<BR>Its odd to see the old at this hour in this city . They wander the streets as if in a time warp; the vibrantcy of the city dismisses them like so much passing litter.You wonder where they go ; and who cares for them.
<BR>I pay for her glass; and she smiles at us with parched lips and stained teeth as she raises it to our health. Her watery blue eyes clearly thankfull for some small communal kindness from strangers.
<BR>We resume our dialouge as the smokey fog closes in; she stares off into it as a distant mirror to some by gone age when her blood was young and the only stares she got were for her stylish poise and good looks
<BR>With memory and body fading ; they hold on to the physical in bizzare ways appearing like wreckage with bows tied atop them. Broadway bijous (Jewles) waiting for trains that never come; talking to people long gone.
<BR>The weather outside is cruel; the distant storm opens up a cloud burst;pouring hard ; I turn towards the lady and discover she has gone . Only her empty glass suggesting her presnce.
<BR>The porter mops up as its time to close..I stare vacantly into the empty streets and pouring gloom..not a cab to be seen ....I stare way up to Grand Central and see a lone shadow with suit case hobbling unsteady to its golden light.
<BR>
<BR> Michael july/o2
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TO: The PRESIDENT / MD of the Company.
Dear Sir,
I have been instructed by my colleague to look for a foreign
partner who can assist us to execute an urgent business
involving huge profit and international cooperation.
We are interested in the importation of Solar Panels,
Agricultural equipment and Computer accessories from overseas
and we need a foreign partner who can assist us with a bank
account for the transfer of ($15 million US dollars). We have
resolved that 20% will be your commission for nominating a new
bank account and a company that will receive this fund on our
behalf and any other assistance you may give in this deal. 10%
of the entire sum has been mapped out to settle any outstanding
expenses we may incur. In the cause on this funds transfer,
while 70% of our share will be used for the importation.
My colleagues and I are civil servants and as members of the
contract review panel. It is against the (code of conduct
bureau) for us to operate a foreign account; hence we are
soliciting your firm support. We can finalize the transaction
in ten working days.
If this deal is accepted please respond to us via e-mail to
enable us provide you with the detailed modalities for the
successful completion of the project. There is no risk
involved, we just need international contact.
I hope to here from you through this e-mail address so that I
can give more information and updates. PLEASE contact me as
soon as possible. GOD BLESSES.
Yours Sincerely,
Mr. David West
Ten: 234 80 33019594
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Date: 7/25/2002 4:26:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time <BR>
From: <A HREF="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> <BR>
To: <A HREF="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> <BR>
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<BR>
TO: The PRESIDENT / MD of the Company.<BR>
<BR>
Dear Sir,<BR>
<BR>
I have been instructed by my colleague to look for a foreign <BR>
partner who can assist us to execute an urgent business <BR>
involving huge profit and international cooperation.<BR>
<BR>
We are interested in the importation of Solar Panels, <BR>
Agricultural equipment and Computer accessories from overseas <BR>
and we need a foreign partner who can assist us with a bank <BR>
account for the transfer of ($15 million US dollars). We have <BR>
resolved that 20% will be your commission for nominating a new <BR>
bank account and a company that will receive this fund on our <BR>
behalf and any other assistance you may give in this deal. 10% <BR>
of the entire sum has been mapped out to settle any outstanding <BR>
expenses we may incur. In the cause on this funds transfer, <BR>
while 70% of our share will be used for the importation.<BR>
<BR>
My colleagues and I are civil servants and as members of the <BR>
contract review panel. It is against the (code of conduct <BR>
bureau) for us to operate a foreign account; hence we are <BR>
soliciting your firm support. We can finalize the transaction <BR>
in ten working days.<BR>
<BR>
If this deal is accepted please respond to us via e-mail to <BR>
enable us provide you with the detailed modalities for the <BR>
successful completion of the project. There is no risk <BR>
involved, we just need international contact.<BR>
<BR>
I hope to here from you through this e-mail address so that I <BR>
can give more information and updates. PLEASE contact me as <BR>
soon as possible. GOD BLESSES.<BR>
<BR>
Yours Sincerely,<BR>
<BR>
Mr. David West<BR>
Ten: 234 80 33019594<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
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Subject: Re: Yeah yeah yeah ... nice try, david
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Mary,
I somehow think this is another David West, as opposed to our david west.
Besides which, 20% of $15 million is nothing to sneeze at in MY book,
especially for something as eco-friendly as solar panels, but then I'm not
one of you rich people in Montclair. I was pretty excited to find $1.74 in
change down at the Mall today, which I'm pretty sure fell out of a dryer
somebody had thrown out. But YOU probably would've just walked away.
I am shocked that you have so little faith in humanity, and think we may have
to convene a special meeting of the non-officers at the Pignic to consider
your heartless and fiscally imprudent actions in this matter. You would be
wise to provide refreshments at this meeting.
Tsk, tsk.
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>Mary,
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<BR>I somehow think this is another David West, as opposed to <U>our</U> david west. Besides which, 20% of $15 million is nothing to sneeze at in MY book, especially for something as eco-friendly as solar panels, but then I'm not one of you rich people in Montclair. I was pretty excited to find $1.74 in change down at the Mall today, which I'm pretty sure fell out of a dryer somebody had thrown out. But YOU probably would've just walked away.
<BR>
<BR>I am shocked that you have so little faith in humanity, and think we may have to convene a special meeting of the non-officers at the Pignic to consider your heartless and fiscally imprudent actions in this matter. You would be wise to provide refreshments at this meeting.
<BR>
<BR>Tsk, tsk.
<BR>
<BR>Ralph</FONT></HTML>
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In a message dated 7/25/2002 5:27:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> You would be wise to provide refreshments at this meeting.
Yeah yeah yeah. I thought david was just getting creative. At least solar
panels appealed to a new target market.
As for refreshments: I will unveil my best vintage in Gatorade at the Pignic.
Julep
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 7/25/2002 5:27:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
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<BR>Yeah yeah yeah. I thought david was just getting creative. At least solar panels appealed to a new target market.
<BR>
<BR>As for refreshments: I will unveil my best vintage in Gatorade at the Pignic.
<BR>
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Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 22:26:38 EDT
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> As for refreshments: I will unveil my best vintage in Gatorade at the
> Pignic.
Missy,
I was going to try to schedule my open heart surgery around the Pignic, but
if you're serving Gatorade, forget it. I'd rather eat jello.
Ralph
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">As for refreshments: I will unveil my best vintage in Gatorade at the Pignic.</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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I was going to try to schedule my open heart surgery around the Pignic, but if you're serving Gatorade, forget it. I'd rather eat jello.<BR>
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Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 16:47:03 +1000
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Ladies and gentlemen
If we were talking about ethical investments, then
solar panels would seem a great way to go,
particularly in a poor nation that has no other way to
provide energy to the masses for watching of American
soap operas, international sporting extravaganzas and
all manner of other claptrap that gets served up by
the networks as entertainment.
However, history has shown us thus far that solar
panels are not great investments, and hence my alter
ego (of which there are many, I hasten to assure you)
has clearly failed to appreciate the most important
aspect of business.
I wish him the best of luck, because he will probably
need it, and I wish you all the best of fortune, which
will probably be achieved by avoiding opportunities
which come uncanvassed via the mass media.
Nonetheless, should any of you doubt the identity of
anybody calling themselves david west, just ask them
for the BP sign ... and all will be revealed!
Good morning from grey London
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> Life is funny; late the other night there was a
> smokey haze from a Quebec
> forrest fire ;the following was just after work
Mmmm. Michael, I love your writing.
The smoke reminds me of the bushfires in Sydney 18
months ago. Horrendous hazes over the harbour;
container ships disappearing from view as they slid
under the bridge; the city buildings gone as if the
world had suddenly split in two; everything takes on a
new perspective in that mysterious light.
The great English writers really knew how to weave
spells with the London fogs ... now we have to wait
for fires to bring some of that magic into our lives.
Cheers
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Hello all,
Michael, your last glass of wine made my morning. How'd you like that
moon last night?
Best,
Leland
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Life is funny;late the other night there was a smokey haze from a Quebec
forrest fire ;the following was just after work
Grand Central
Like an 800 lb elephant,a low smokey haze settles over the duece(42
street) plunging the Great White Way into a garish half light of another
time.
Empty cabs ;like fireflys in a dirty fog; jitterbug over pot holes and
nibbling at shadows that scurry east to West near the famous cross
roads.
Their tired tire treads pull at the sticky asphalt delivering a cadence
of guttural "clicks" to the tires movement as they cruise Park and
Madison
Its hot; at 1 am on a weekday ;most people drift over to the west side
where the resturants ; diners and clubs tend to stay open longer; as do
the hookers , grifters and street people who follow like floatsum off a
barge.
Not me; I head for a little bistro off Grand Central where the
bartender suffers from the gift of sports gab and a case of the heavy
pour.
We worked hard on our stone tonight and got alot done .
The card game at 11 pm break went well too ;
I took a "Grant and a "jefferson " with three "old men" in seven card
draw ;We played atop the Old Pan Am by the lights of our rigs
"Read and weep " .... I answered ; when I was called on my cards .
The union steward who held 3 tens was taciturn; ...a lighting storm
reflected from far off on Brooklyns breezy point; I could see it in his
eyes.
The cash felt good in the pocket ; the two notes giggled like kissing
cousins under blankets as I steer clear the taxis towards the bistro.
The bartender is a friend of mine; we talk British Open and the demise
of the Sox (red sox ) by the Yankees.
I order a Ceaser; and he pours me a large glass of chilled Graves.
The Graves cuts the nights heat like a knife.
Like a rouge wave the second taste crashes the dust of the gates at
the back of the palate and sets them ardrift in a bite of freshness.
We contemplate Elles victory at Muirfield in The Open ; and the tragic
performance of Sox pitching up in the Bronx.The wine is heady; and
sooths the beast of frustration of a Sox fan in New York
The only other patron on this gloomy night is an old Roue' who tottered
in with an ancient overnight bag wearing a Red Book suit with matching
hat from the salvation army.
She sits at a table facing the street and staring to the night. Her skin
is parchment white and is drawn tight over cracked lips ; slashed
broadly with cosmetic red.
Pancake rouge settles round and clownlike on her cheeks as she orders
her a glass through watery blue eyes.
Its odd to see the old at this hour in this city . They wander the
streets as if in a time warp; the vibrantcy of the city dismisses them
like so much passing litter.You wonder where they go ; and who cares for
them.
I pay for her glass; and she smiles at us with parched lips and stained
teeth as she raises it to our health. Her watery blue eyes clearly
thankfull for some small communal kindness from strangers.
We resume our dialouge as the smokey fog closes in; she stares off into
it as a distant mirror to some by gone age when her blood was young and
the only stares she got were for her stylish poise and good looks
With memory and body fading ; they hold on to the physical in bizzare
ways appearing like wreckage with bows tied atop them. Broadway bijous
(Jewles) waiting for trains that never come; talking to people long
gone.
The weather outside is cruel; the distant storm opens up a cloud
burst;pouring hard ; I turn towards the lady and discover she has gone .
Only her empty glass suggesting her presnce.
The porter mops up as its time to close..I stare vacantly into the empty
streets and pouring gloom..not a cab to be seen ....I stare way up to
Grand Central and see a lone shadow with suit case hobbling unsteady to
its golden light.
Michael july/o2
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=108414910-26072002>Hello
all,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=108414910-26072002>Michael, your
last glass of wine made my morning. How'd you like that moon last
night?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=108414910-26072002>Leland</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Darling, all I
want is that you should be a pinhead -- Arlene Croce
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>[log in to unmask]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 25, 2002 12:48
PM<BR><B>To:</B> [log in to unmask]<BR><B>Subject:</B>
Re: Grand Central<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT
size=2>Life is funny;late the other night there was a smokey haze from a
Quebec forrest fire ;the following was just after work <BR><BR>Grand Central
<BR><BR>Like an 800 lb elephant,a low smokey haze settles over the duece(42
street) plunging the Great White Way into a garish half light of another time.
<BR><BR>Empty cabs ;like fireflys in a dirty fog; jitterbug over pot
holes and nibbling at shadows that scurry east to West near the famous cross
roads. <BR>Their tired tire treads pull at the sticky asphalt delivering
a cadence of guttural "clicks" to the tires movement as they cruise Park and
Madison <BR>Its hot; at 1 am on a weekday ;most people drift over to the west
side where the resturants ; diners and clubs tend to stay open longer; as do
the hookers , grifters and street people who follow like floatsum off a barge.
<BR> Not me; I head for a little bistro off
Grand Central where the bartender suffers from the gift of sports gab and a
case of the heavy pour. <BR>We worked hard on our stone tonight and got alot
done . <BR>The card game at 11 pm break went well too ; <BR>I took a
"Grant and a "jefferson " with three "old men" in seven card draw
;We played atop the Old Pan Am by the lights of our rigs <BR>"Read and
weep " .... I answered ; when I was called on my cards .
<BR>The union steward who held 3 tens was taciturn; ...a lighting storm
reflected from far off on Brooklyns breezy point; I could see it in his
eyes. <BR><BR>The cash felt good in the pocket ; the two notes giggled like
kissing cousins under blankets as I steer clear the taxis towards the bistro.
<BR>The bartender is a friend of mine; we talk British Open and the demise of
the Sox (red sox ) by the Yankees. <BR>I order a Ceaser; and he pours me
a large glass of chilled Graves. <BR>The Graves cuts the nights heat
like a knife. <BR>Like a rouge wave the second taste crashes the
dust of the gates at the back of the palate and sets them ardrift
in a bite of freshness. <BR>We contemplate Elles victory at Muirfield in The
Open ; and the tragic performance of Sox pitching up in the Bronx.The wine is
heady; and sooths the beast of frustration of a Sox fan in New York
<BR><BR>The only other patron on this gloomy night is an old Roue' who
tottered in with an ancient overnight bag wearing a Red Book suit with
matching hat from the salvation army. <BR>She sits at a table facing the
street and staring to the night. Her skin is parchment white and is drawn
tight over cracked lips ; slashed broadly with cosmetic red. <BR>Pancake
rouge settles round and clownlike on her cheeks as she
orders her a glass through watery blue eyes. <BR><BR>Its odd to
see the old at this hour in this city . They wander the streets as if in a
time warp; the vibrantcy of the city dismisses them like so much passing
litter.You wonder where they go ; and who cares for them. <BR>I pay for her
glass; and she smiles at us with parched lips and stained teeth as she
raises it to our health. Her watery blue eyes clearly thankfull for some
small communal kindness from strangers. <BR>We resume our dialouge
as the smokey fog closes in; she stares off into it as a distant mirror
to some by gone age when her blood was young and the only stares she got
were for her stylish poise and good looks <BR>With memory and body fading ;
they hold on to the physical in bizzare ways appearing like wreckage with bows
tied atop them. Broadway bijous (Jewles) waiting for trains that never come;
talking to people long gone. <BR>The weather outside is cruel; the distant
storm opens up a cloud burst;pouring hard ; I turn towards the lady and
discover she has gone . Only her empty glass suggesting her presnce. <BR>The
porter mops up as its time to close..I stare vacantly into the empty streets
and pouring gloom..not a cab to be seen ....I stare way up to
Grand Central and see a lone shadow with suit case hobbling unsteady to
its golden light.
<BR><BR> Michael july/o2
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Reply-To: "Darling,
all I want is that you should be a pinhead -- Arlene Croce"
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Subject: Re: Yeah yeah yeah ... nice try, david
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In a message dated 7/25/2002 2:27:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
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> I am shocked that you have so little faith in humanity
Having just finished reading "Confederacy of Dunces", as per recommendation
of the BP slow-readers group, I hereby recognize our own Ignatius here
dictating through the being of HR.
][<en
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 7/25/2002 2:27:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I am shocked that you have so little faith in humanity</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
Having just finished reading "Confederacy of Dunces", as per recommendation of the BP slow-readers group, I hereby recognize our own Ignatius here dictating through the being of HR.<BR>
<BR>
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Reply-To: "Darling,
all I want is that you should be a pinhead -- Arlene Croce"
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In a message dated 7/25/2002 7:17:32 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [log in to unmask]
writes:
> I will unveil my best vintage in Gatorade at the Pignic.
>
Old Gatorade... I'm not sure if that will draw a crowd.
][<en
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 7/25/2002 7:17:32 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I will unveil my best vintage in Gatorade at the Pignic. <BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Old Gatorade... I'm not sure if that will draw a crowd.<BR>
<BR>
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Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 08:38:40 EDT
Reply-To: "Darling,
all I want is that you should be a pinhead -- Arlene Croce"
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From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: It was John Leeke who told me to put wax on the screens!!! I
looked...
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In a message dated 7/25/2002 9:52:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> Did we tell you to invest in Enron, Worldcom, or Adelphia?
Awww come on Ralf. These companies just had a slight problem with their
capital. Heck before you know they will be up and running at full steam
again. They had no idea what they were doing was illegal. They have been
doing it for so long they began to think that it really was OK. Oh, by the
way if anyone is interested I still have plenty of Rolex watches and plenty
of Enron, Adelphia, and WorldCom stock that I will sell real cheap. Please
call me as soon as possible these stocks and watches are going fast. When you
call, you will get my message "Due to high call volume your call will be
taken in the order that it was received in." Please stay on the line and I
will take your call as soon as I can. Please be patient. Thank you for your
support. Just for a little reassurance I have three incredibly knowledgeable,
honest, and straight forward men working for me. Let me introduce to all of
my Pinhead counterparts, Mr. Kenneth Lay, Scott Sullivan, and Bernard
(Bernie) Ebbers. If anyone is interested in my financial disclosures please
contact my accounting firm, Arthur Andersen. I'm currently trying to
negotiate a sentence.... I mean contract for a couple of other knowledgeable,
honest, and straight forward men, John and Timothy Rigas. I'm currently
having problems contacting them at their Manhattan condos. Ralf can you
possibly assist me in trying to locate the Rigas family. I would greatly
appreciate that.
Sign me,
I've fallen and I can't get up.
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<BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Did we tell you to invest in Enron, Worldcom, or Adelphia?</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=4 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Goudy Old Style" LANG="0"><BR>
Awww come on Ralf. These companies just had a slight problem with their capital. Heck before you know they will be up and running at full steam again. They had no idea what they were doing was illegal. They have been doing it for so long they began to think that it really was OK. Oh, by the way if anyone is interested I still have plenty of Rolex watches and plenty of Enron, Adelphia, and WorldCom stock that I will sell real cheap. Please call me as soon as possible these stocks and watches are going fast. When you call, you will get my message "Due to high call volume your call will be taken in the order that it was received in." Please stay on the line and I will take your call as soon as I can. Please be patient. Thank you for your support. Just for a little reassurance I have three incredibly knowledgeable, honest, and straight forward men working for me. Let me introduce to all of my Pinhead counterparts, Mr. Kenneth Lay, Scott Sullivan, and Bernard (Bernie) Ebbers. If anyone is interested in my financial disclosures please contact my accounting firm, Arthur Andersen. I'm currently trying to negotiate a sentence.... I mean contract for a couple of other knowledgeable, honest, and straight forward men, John and Timothy Rigas. I'm currently having problems contacting them at their Manhattan condos. Ralf can you possibly assist me in trying to locate the Rigas family. I would greatly appreciate that.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
Sign me,<BR>
I've fallen and I can't get up.<BR>
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Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 09:04:27 EDT
Reply-To: "Darling,
all I want is that you should be a pinhead -- Arlene Croce"
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From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Yeah yeah yeah ... nice try, david
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In a message dated 7/26/2002 2:47:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> just ask them
> for the BP sign ... and all will be revealed!
>
Bravo, bravo! Hip, hip, hooray! Three cheers for David!
Steve
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<BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">just ask them<BR>
for the BP sign ... and all will be revealed!<BR>
</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=4 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Goudy Old Style" LANG="0"><BR>
Bravo, bravo! Hip, hip, hooray! Three cheers for David!<BR>
<BR>
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Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 09:06:30 EDT
Reply-To: "Darling,
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In a message dated 7/26/2002 8:10:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask]
writes:
> Old Gatorade... I'm not sure if that will draw a crowd.
>
As long as there is no mold.
Steve
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<BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Old Gatorade... I'm not sure if that will draw a crowd.<BR>
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As long as there is no mold.<BR>
<BR>
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Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 09:16:29 EDT
Reply-To: "Darling,
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From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Yeah yeah yeah ... nice try, david
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In a message dated 7/26/2002 8:10:04 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask]
writes:
> Having just finished reading "Confederacy of Dunces", as per recommendation
> of the BP slow-readers group, I hereby recognize our own Ignatius here
> dictating through the being of HR.
>
>
][<en,
For those of us who suffer ever more frequently from Senior Moments, but who
didn't read it so long ago that it's part of the distant past we CAN
remember, would you kindly referesh our memories? Or at least mine?
Ralph
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 7/26/2002 8:10:04 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
<BR>
<BR>
<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Having just finished reading "Confederacy of Dunces", as per recommendation of the BP slow-readers group, I hereby recognize our own Ignatius here dictating through the being of HR.
<BR>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">][<en,
<BR>
<BR>For those of us who suffer ever more frequently from Senior Moments, but who didn't read it so long ago that it's part of the distant past we CAN remember, would you kindly referesh our memories? Or at least mine?
<BR>
<BR>Ralph</FONT></HTML>
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Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 09:24:17 EDT
Reply-To: "Darling,
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From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: It was John Leeke who told me to put wax on the screens!!! I
looked...
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In a message dated 7/26/2002 8:47:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
> I'm currently having problems contacting them at their Manhattan condos.
> Ralf can you possibly assist me in trying to locate the Rigas family. I
> would greatly appreciate that.
>
>
>
Steve,
Good, rock solid Republican businessmen, the pillars of salt of the earth.
Actually there was a story in the NY Times, just about the time the Adelphia
story broke (which was NOT broken by our intrepid reported, Chrif of the
Waxed Fcreenf, I might add) that reported having found another member of the
Rigas family right in the heart of Minhattin: a new species of 82-legged
centipede found in the leaf mold in Central Park.
Ralph
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 7/26/2002 8:47:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
<BR>
<BR>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=4 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Goudy Old Style" LANG="0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I'm currently having problems contacting them at their Manhattan condos. Ralf can you possibly assist me in trying to locate the Rigas family. I would greatly appreciate that.
<BR>
<BR>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Goudy Old Style" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">
<BR>Steve,
<BR>
<BR>Good, rock solid Republican businessmen, the pillars of salt of the earth.
<BR>
<BR>Actually there was a story in the NY Times, just about the time the Adelphia story broke (which was NOT broken by our intrepid reported, Chrif of the Waxed Fcreenf, I might add) that reported having found another member of the Rigas family right in the heart of Minhattin: a new species of 82-legged centipede found in the leaf mold in Central Park.
<BR>
<BR>Ralph</FONT></HTML>
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Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 09:26:07 EDT
Reply-To: "Darling,
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From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Yeah yeah yeah ... nice try, david
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In a message dated 7/26/2002 9:07:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> As long as there is no mold.
>
>
Steve,
Not to worry. The mold was broken, along with the Japanese Navel and Enema
Codes.
Ralph
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 7/26/2002 9:07:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
<BR>
<BR>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=4 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Goudy Old Style" LANG="0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">As long as there is no mold.
<BR>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Goudy Old Style" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Steve,
<BR>
<BR>Not to worry. The mold was broken, along with the Japanese Navel and Enema Codes.
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Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 09:29:52 EDT
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> Japanese Navel
I thought it was fuzzy navel.
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I thought it was fuzzy navel.<BR>
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Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 10:25:51 EDT
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In a message dated 7/26/2002 9:30:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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>
> >> Japanese Navel
>
> I thought it was fuzzy navel.
>
>
Steve,
I think what you have in mind is either naval jelly or toe jam. Fuzzy navels
are on my list with hairy backs. Yiccchh.
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<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Japanese Navel </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BR>I thought it was fuzzy navel.
<BR>
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<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Steve,
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<BR>I think what you have in mind is either naval jelly or toe jam. Fuzzy navels are on my list with hairy backs. Yiccchh.</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Goudy Old Style" LANG="0">
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P-L has been more active today than in months! All because Dan left an
auto-response. There's a party going on over there, and jokes and odd
ball comments...maybe its a movement!
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I have a 220 pump from Spain. I have forgotten: do you burn out the pump if
its 110 and you plug it into a 220 outlet, or do you burn it out if you have
a 220 pump and you plug it into 110? Or both?
Sign me, Third Rail
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3>I have a 220 pump from Spain. I have forgotten: do you burn out the pump if its 110 and you plug it into a 220 outlet, or do you burn it out if you have a 220 pump and you plug it into 110? Or both?
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Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 17:35:00 EDT
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In a message dated 7/26/2002 5:21:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> I have a 220 pump from Spain. I have forgotten: do you burn out the pump if
> its 110 and you plug it into a 220 outlet, or do you burn it out if you
> have a 220 pump and you plug it into 110? Or both?
My wizard son Case (who's working in my office this summer) sez:
Use a converter plug with a transformer attached, which should adjust the
power it needs. If you just use a converter plug, you won't get enough power
from the 110.
But I'm just the mom.
M
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 7/26/2002 5:21:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="arial" LANG="0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I have a 220 pump from Spain. I have forgotten: do you burn out the pump if its 110 and you plug it into a 220 outlet, or do you burn it out if you have a 220 pump and you plug it into 110? Or both? </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
My wizard son Case (who's working in my office this summer) sez:<BR>
<BR>
Use a converter plug with a transformer attached, which should adjust the power it needs. If you just use a converter plug, you won't get enough power from the 110.<BR>
<BR>
But I'm just the mom.<BR>
<BR>
M<BR>
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Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 10:11:39 EDT
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In a message dated 7/27/2002 8:49:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> Historic bricks are not uniform in quality and characteristics. Even the
> best with hard durable outer surfaces may have soft centers (thus the
> prohibition on sand blasting). Using soft and porous bricks is not much of
> a problem on the inner wyths of a wall, if the outer is efficiently
> shedding water. Softer bricks have been used successfully on outer
> building walls when covered with paint and/or stain, or glazed, or even
> wood siding. My experience with historic brick is mostly from
> Pennsylvania. It may be the freeze thaw cycles that make this a particular
> concern from my perspective, or the time span of the brick technololgy I
> was dealing with. Twentieth century brick seemed to have none of the
> vulnerabilities of 18th and 19th century brick. Instead, it was being
> abused by mortar with enough portland cement to support the loads without
> the brick. Others on this list and on BP can provide you with detailed
> information on testing and identifying the brick and the paint, and the
> history of brick technology. I'm afraid I am a "concept" guy, rather than
> one who remembers details. Thinking of odd concepts, I wonder what a
> building would look like if you removed all the brick and left the voids in
> a brick wall. Sort of a modern web-like look I suppose. Hmmm. (Not all
> concepts are created equal.)
>
>
All of the paint will be removed. The front north facing wall has already had
the paint removed. Unfortunately the company that removed the paint did so
with chemical, pressure washer, and I'm sure wire brushes. Although I did not
see them using wire brushes I have watched them on several occasions use wire
brushes to remove excess mortar from the brick as they repoint a building.
They are also quite fond of Portland cement mortars. And of course they call
themselves a masonry restoration company. This particular clay brick was used
quite extensively here and I see it deteriorating everywhere it has been
used. But what is somewhat amusing to me is, some people seem to think that
if they slap paint on the brick it will stop the deterioration. I'm also
finding bits and pieces of coal in the mortar, anyone ever seen this before.
I've seen burnt and unburned pieces of wood but never coal.
Steve
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Historic bricks are not uniform in quality and characteristics. Even the best with hard durable outer surfaces may have soft centers (thus the prohibition on sand blasting). Using soft and porous bricks is not much of a problem on the inner wyths of a wall, if the outer is efficiently shedding water. Softer bricks have been used successfully on outer building walls when covered with paint and/or stain, or glazed, or even wood siding. My experience with historic brick is mostly from Pennsylvania. It may be the freeze thaw cycles that make this a particular concern from my perspective, or the time span of the brick technololgy I was dealing with. Twentieth century brick seemed to have none of the vulnerabilities of 18th and 19th century brick. Instead, it was being abused by mortar with enough portland cement to support the loads without the brick. Others on this list and on BP can provide you with detailed information on testing and identifying the brick and the paint, and the history of brick technology. I'm afraid I am a "concept" guy, rather than one who remembers details. Thinking of odd concepts, I wonder what a building would look like if you removed all the brick and left the voids in a brick wall. Sort of a modern web-like look I suppose. Hmmm. (Not all concepts are created equal.) <BR>
<BR>
</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=4 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Goudy Old Style" LANG="0">All of the paint will be removed. The front north facing wall has already had the paint removed. Unfortunately the company that removed the paint did so with chemical, pressure washer, and I'm sure wire brushes. Although I did not see them using wire brushes I have watched them on several occasions use wire brushes to remove excess mortar from the brick as they repoint a building. They are also quite fond of Portland cement mortars. And of course they call themselves a masonry restoration company. This particular clay brick was used quite extensively here and I see it deteriorating everywhere it has been used. But what is somewhat amusing to me is, some people seem to think that if they slap paint on the brick it will stop the deterioration. I'm also finding bits and pieces of coal in the mortar, anyone ever seen this before. I've seen burnt and unburned pieces of wood but never coal.<BR>
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be
a pinhead -- Arlene Croce"
>I have a 220 pump from Spain. I have forgotten: do you burn out the pum=
p
if
its 110 and you plug it into a 220 outlet, or do you burn it out if you
have
a 220 pump and you plug it into 110? Or both?
Sign me, Third Rail<
Depending on the nature of the device, 220 devices run on 110 will either=
run at 1/2 speed or not at all. You may try out the pump and see if it
works well enough to use. Electronic devices which convert the AC input t=
o
DC with an internal transformer probably won't do anything, but if they
work at all, they are probably OK. =
The danger is in plugging 110 devices into 220 where the higher voltage
will cause damage. Voltage converters cut the higher voltage to lower. Mo=
st
of them are too wimpy to use with anything that takes a lot of power. I
don't know how well it works turning 110 into 220. It would I think doubl=
e
the amperage demand (Ohm's law). Computers now usually have dual voltage
capability built in and only need the appropriate cord with plug for the
country you are in. As they all use one of two kinds of attachment to the=
power supply, any electronics store could sell you one. 12 years ago, I h=
ad
an old laptop which did not have a dual voltage power supply, and my trav=
el
converter failed while in Egypt, passing 220 volts back to the computer.
Its power supply burned out but I didn't know that until the battery died=
.
Even then I did not attribute it to the travel converter. I had assumed
that a properly designed converter would stop passing current if it faile=
d.
If you use a converter which is not up to the demand, however, it may jus=
t
give up and let all the juice go through. The dual voltage supplies used =
in
most computers now (saving the manufacturers from having to make differen=
t
models for us than for most of the world) simply block voltage greater th=
an
110 from going through, then convert the 110 to their operating DC voltag=
e
(usually 12). Consumer electronics such as radios, TVs, stereos, are
usually not dual voltage although these are available. Since there are
usually other regional differences as well (radio frquencies, TV scanning=
systems) presumably the mfgrs don't find it cost-effective. =
Sign me, Not Off My Trolley
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Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 11:27:51 -0400
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Subject: Re: Yeah yeah yeah ... nice try, david
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Subject: Re: Yeah yeah yeah ... nice try, david
In a message dated 7/25/2002 5:27:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, =
[log in to unmask] writes:=20
You would be wise to provide refreshments at this meeting.=20
Yeah yeah yeah. I thought david was just getting creative. At least =
solar panels appealed to a new target market.=20
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Pignic.=20
---------------------------------------------=20
Ms. Julep,
oh darn, you mean that message about solar panels from david wasn't for =
real?? I thought I might actually be able to have a chance to use my =
college degree for something that would earn me some money..... =20
and, please allow me to furnish the gatorade for the pignic! I've =
become quite a "suffishinado" over the last couple of weeks .... I could =
probably bottle up some of the best daily mixes from the jobsite after I =
get back from IPTW, and there would still be time for them to age =
properly before september ;)
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href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> writes: <BR><BR><BR>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>oh darn, you mean that message about solar panels =
from david=20
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use my=20
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pignic! I've become quite a "suffishinado" over the last couple of =
weeks=20
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jobsite=20
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Subject: Re: Yeah yeah yeah ... nice try, david
In a message dated 7/26/2002 8:10:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time, =
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Old Gatorade... I'm not sure if that will draw a crowd.
As long as there is no mold.
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is that cheezwhiz.... I forget..... the diesel exhaust and forest fire =
smoke have affected my memory
"city mouse"
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, July 26, 2002 9:06 AM</DIV>
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<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 face=3D"Goudy =
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TYPE=3D"CITE">Old Gatorade... I'm not sure if that will draw a=20
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From: Rudy Christian=20
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: summer in London
>> PS That damn paraffin that some idiot said to put on my porch =
screens (to permit the surface tension of the water to block rain =
blow-through) not only did not work, it is still there, gumming up the =
view! Someone send me a flamethrower - or wax-eating bugs.=20
> Just UPS them to Ohio where the heat index is over 100 today!=20
Heck, he can just send them over to Minhattin, and I'll lay them out on =
one of the roofs I'm working on... it's about 130 F up there on the bad =
days when the weather is good....
unlike david, I find myself actually looking forward to the good days =
with cloudy grey skies when it's only 110 degrees up there ;)
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<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
[log in to unmask] href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Rudy =
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 22, 2002 11:21 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: summer in London</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT lang=3D0 color=3D#000000 size=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><FONT =
face=3DArial><SPAN=20
class=3D070252015-22072002><FONT color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>>> </FONT></SPAN>PS That damn paraffin that =
some idiot=20
said to put on my porch screens (to permit the surface tension of the =
water to=20
block rain blow-through) not only did not work, it is still there, =
gumming up=20
the view! Someone send me a flamethrower - or wax-eating=20
bugs. <BR><BR><SPAN class=3D070252015-22072002><FONT =
color=3D#ff0000=20
size=3D2>> Just UPS them to Ohio where the heat index is over 100=20
today! </FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT lang=3D0 color=3D#000000 size=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
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<DIV><FONT lang=3D0 size=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#000080=20
size=3D2><SPAN class=3D070252015-22072002>Heck, he can just send them =
over to=20
Minhattin, and I'll lay them out on one of the roofs I'm working =
on... =20
it's about 130 F up there on the bad days when the weather is=20
good....</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT lang=3D0 size=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><FONT face=3DArial =
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size=3D2><SPAN class=3D070252015-22072002>unlike david, I find myself =
actually=20
looking forward to the good days with cloudy grey skies when it's only =
110=20
degrees up there =20
;)</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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OK crew, there have been a lot of posts in the past about masonry =
consolidants of various types, but I've never seen anything about =
wood....
I have a situation here with the Uncle's parlour floor that I have a =
question about.
It is some type of pine or fir, kind of orange colored, and dates to the =
1870's.
It had something over it at some point, like linoleum or something, =
and/or it was painted brown, but nothing is left but a residual bit of =
gunk, and most of that is worn away in the traffic areas, and the floor =
is splintering. The wood is all "dried out", even in this humidity.=20
I doubt I could even sand it, at this point. The surface comes up in big =
splinters when I just walk across it in socks in a lot of places. I want =
to refinish it in some way that is very low maintenance, but my only =
experience with wood floors has been with jobs where the flooring itself =
was still in real good shape and just needed sanding etc, and then we =
cleaned up stains, matched patches for old register cutouts, and put =
down multiple coats of polyurethane. Nothing complicated.
Where should I look for information to get started on deciding a course =
of action?
deb
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>OK crew, there have been a lot of posts =
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wood....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have a situation here with the =
Uncle's parlour=20
floor that I have a question about.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It is some type of pine or fir, kind of =
orange=20
colored, and dates to the 1870's.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It had something over it at some point, =
like=20
linoleum or something, and/or it was painted brown, but nothing is left =
but a=20
residual bit of gunk, and most of that is worn away in the traffic =
areas, and=20
the floor is splintering. The wood is all "dried out", even in this =
humidity.=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I doubt I could even sand it, at this =
point. The=20
surface comes up in big splinters when I just walk across it in socks in =
a lot=20
of places. I want to refinish it in some way that is very low =
maintenance, but=20
my only experience with wood floors has been with jobs where the =
flooring itself=20
was still in real good shape and just needed sanding etc, and then we =
cleaned up=20
stains, matched patches for old register cutouts, and put down multiple =
coats of=20
polyurethane. Nothing complicated.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Where should I look for information to =
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Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 15:42:05 -0400
Reply-To: "Darling,
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Subject: Re: wood consolidants
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Deb:
A picture is worth a thousand words, or something like that. How about a
digital?
Bryan
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deb bledsoe wrote:
> OK crew, there have been a lot of posts in the past about masonry
> consolidants of various types, but I've never seen anything about
> wood.... I have a situation here with the Uncle's parlour floor that I
> have a question about.It is some type of pine or fir, kind of orange
> colored, and dates to the 1870's.It had something over it at some point,
> like linoleum or something, and/or it was painted brown, but nothing is
> left but a residual bit of gunk, and most of that is worn away in the
> traffic areas, and the floor is splintering. The wood is all "dried out",
> even in this humidity. I doubt I could even sand it, at this point. The
> surface comes up in big splinters when I just walk across it in socks in
> a lot of places. I want to refinish it in some way that is very low
> maintenance, but my only experience with wood floors has been with jobs
> where the flooring itself was still in real good shape and just needed
> sanding etc, and then we cleaned up stains, matched patches for old
> register cutouts, and put down multiple coats of polyurethane. Nothing
> complicated. Where should I look for information to get started on
> deciding a course of action? deb
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<font color="#3333FF">Deb:</font><font color="#3333FF"></font>
<p><font color="#3333FF">A picture is worth a thousand words, or something
like that. How about a digital?</font><font color="#3333FF"></font>
<p><font color="#3333FF">Bryan</font>
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<p>deb bledsoe wrote:
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<font face="Arial"><font size=-1>OK
crew, there have been a lot of posts in the past about masonry consolidants
of various types, but I've never seen anything about wood....</font></font> <font face="Arial"><font size=-1>I
have a situation here with the Uncle's parlour floor that I have a question
about.</font></font><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>It is some type of
pine or fir, kind of orange colored, and dates to the 1870's.</font></font><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>It
had something over it at some point, like linoleum or something, and/or
it was painted brown, but nothing is left but a residual bit of gunk, and
most of that is worn away in the traffic areas, and the floor is splintering.
The wood is all "dried out", even in this humidity.</font></font> <font face="Arial"><font size=-1>I
doubt I could even sand it, at this point. The surface comes up in big
splinters when I just walk across it in socks in a lot of places. I want
to refinish it in some way that is very low maintenance, but my only experience
with wood floors has been with jobs where the flooring itself was still
in real good shape and just needed sanding etc, and then we cleaned up
stains, matched patches for old register cutouts, and put down multiple
coats of polyurethane. Nothing complicated.</font></font> <font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Where
should I look for information to get started on deciding a course of action?</font></font> <font face="Arial"><font size=-1>deb</font></font> </blockquote>
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Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 22:12:54 EDT
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From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: 110 vs. 220
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In a message dated 7/26/2002 5:35:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask]
writes:
> My wizard son Case (who's working in my office this summer) sez:
>
> Use a converter plug with a transformer attached, which should adjust the
> power it needs. If you just use a converter plug, you won't get enough
> power from the 110.
>
> But I'm just the mom.
>
>
I believe the lady is correct. I have no reason to think the lady is a tramp.
Ralph
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 7/26/2002 5:35:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
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<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">My wizard son Case (who's working in my office this summer) sez:
<BR>
<BR>Use a converter plug with a transformer attached, which should adjust the power it needs. If you just use a converter plug, you won't get enough power from the 110.
<BR>
<BR>But I'm just the mom.
<BR>
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Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 22:22:58 EDT
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Subject: Re: Careful with that Paint Stripper!
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In a message dated 7/27/2002 10:12:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> I'm also finding bits and pieces of coal in the mortar, anyone ever seen
> this before. I've seen burnt and unburned pieces of wood but never coal.
>
>
Steve,
Could be "impurities" in the local sand supply. There seem to be sand-size
grains of brownstone in the "historic" (c 1880-1930) mortar where I live.
Nobody sells sand-sized crushed brownstone, though, and I haven't managed to
waddle down and inspect the banks of the Passaic River; there is a fair
amount of brownstone rubble in excavations hereabouts, though.
Ralph
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 7/27/2002 10:12:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
<BR>
<BR>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=4 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Goudy Old Style" LANG="0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I'm also finding bits and pieces of coal in the mortar, anyone ever seen this before. I've seen burnt and unburned pieces of wood but never coal.
<BR>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Goudy Old Style" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Steve,
<BR>
<BR>Could be "impurities" in the local sand supply. There seem to be sand-size grains of brownstone in the "historic" (c 1880-1930) mortar where I live. Nobody sells sand-sized crushed brownstone, though, and I haven't managed to waddle down and inspect the banks of the Passaic River; there is a fair amount of brownstone rubble in excavations hereabouts, though.
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Subject: Re: wood consolidants
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> . I doubt I could even sand it, at this point. The surface comes up in big
> splinters when I just walk across it in socks in a lot of places.
>
>
Deb,
Splinters happen. (You can quote me on this, but if you sell it as a bumper
sticker, I want a piece of the inaction)
Sand and varnish (I'd go with 4 coats) the bejesus out of it. Use one of the
> floor urethanes that won't kill Unk, or stone the neighbors,
> with the fumes.
Isn't that easy?
>
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 7/27/2002 3:41:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
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<BR>
<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">. I doubt I could even sand it, at this point. The surface comes up in big splinters when I just walk across it in socks in a lot of places.
<BR>
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<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Splinters happen. (You can quote me on this, but if you sell it as a bumper sticker, I want a piece of the inaction)</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">
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<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Sand and varnish (I'd go with 4 coats) the bejesus out of it. Use one of the water-based<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"> floor urethanes that won't kill Unk, or stone the neighbors, with the fumes.</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BR>Isn't that easy?
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Deb,
Are you certain that what you've uncovered was intended to be a finished
floor? Is there a water source or other explaination for the
deterioration? Send Bryan a photo. He knows wood real good. I guess I
don't like urathane solutions and would just as soon replace the bad
material rather than transform it into a plastic coated something that
used to be wood floor. But then its not my money.
Speaking of which, I can't spend all day everyday at the mail box Ralph!
-jc
Ralph Walter wrote:
> In a message dated 7/27/2002 3:41:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
>
>
>
>> . I doubt I could even sand it, at this point. The surface comes up
>> in big splinters when I just walk across it in socks in a lot of
>> places.
>>
>
>
>
>
> Deb,
>
> Splinters happen. (You can quote me on this, but if you sell it as a
> bumper sticker, I want a piece of the inaction)
>
> Sand and varnish (I'd go with 4 coats) the bejesus out of it. Use one
> of the water-based
>
>> floor urethanes that won't kill Unk, or stone the neighbors, with
>> the fumes.
>
> Isn't that easy?
>
> R
>
>> alph
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Deb,
<p>Are you certain that what you've uncovered was intended to be a finished
floor? Is there a water source or other explaination for the deterioration?
Send Bryan a photo. He knows wood real good. I guess I don't
like urathane solutions and would just as soon replace the bad material
rather than transform it into a plastic coated something that used to be
wood floor. But then its not my money.
<p>Speaking of which, I can't spend all day everyday at the mail box Ralph!
<p>-jc
<p>Ralph Walter wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE><font face="arial,helvetica"><font size=-1>In a message
dated 7/27/2002 3:41:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:</font></font>
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<blockquote TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><font face="arial,helvetica"><font size=-1>.
I doubt I could even sand it, at this point. The surface comes up in big
splinters when I just walk across it in socks in a lot of places.</font></font>
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<br>
<p><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>Deb,</font></font></font>
<p><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>Splinters happen.
(You can quote me on this, but if you sell it as a bumper sticker, I want
a piece of the inaction)</font></font></font>
<p><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>Sand and varnish
(I'd go with 4 coats) the bejesus out of it. Use one of the water-based</font></font></font>
<blockquote TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1> floor
urethanes that won't kill Unk, or stone the neighbors, with the fumes.</font></font></font></blockquote>
<p><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=+0>Isn't that easy?</font></font></font>
<p><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>R</font></font></font>
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In a message dated 7/27/2002 11:41:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> diesel exhaust and forest fire smoke have affected my memory
Ewwww you have a diesel?
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</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
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Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 23:41:09 EDT
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In a message dated 7/27/2002 11:41:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> I could probably bottle up some of the best daily mixes from the jobsite
> after I get back from IPTW, and there would still be time for them to age
> properly before september
>
Excellent! It will go perfectly with my aged hot dogs. "Course we may lose a
couple of folks if we don't augment the G supply with some of the more normal
brew. I'll be working on that over the next couple of weeks.
M
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 7/27/2002 11:41:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
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<BR>
<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I could probably bottle up some of the best daily mixes from the jobsite after I get back from IPTW, and there would still be time for them to age properly before september
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<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Excellent! It will go perfectly with my aged hot dogs. "Course we may lose a couple of folks if we don't augment the G supply with some of the more normal brew. I'll be working on that over the next couple of weeks.
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In a message dated 7/27/2002 10:13:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> I have no reason to think the lady is a tramp.
Oh.... how disappointink.
M
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Coal could very well have been used as the fuel for burning the limestone.
As a result, depending on the method used for recovering the quick-lime
from the kiln, coal chunks and particles could have been included.
JBB
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Ralph Walter wrote:
> In a message dated 7/27/2002 10:12:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
>
>
>
>> I'm also finding bits and pieces of coal in the mortar, anyone ever
>> seen this before. I've seen burnt and unburned pieces of wood but never
>> coal.
>>
>
>
> Steve,
>
> Could be "impurities" in the local sand supply. There seem to be
> sand-size grains of brownstone in the "historic" (c 1880-1930) mortar
> where I live. Nobody sells sand-sized crushed brownstone, though, and I
> haven't managed to waddle down and inspect the banks of the Passaic
> River; there is a fair amount of brownstone rubble in excavations
> hereabouts, though.
>
> Ralph
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<font color="#3333FF">Coal could very well have been used as the fuel for
burning the limestone. As a result, depending on the method used for recovering
the quick-lime from the kiln, coal chunks and particles could have been
included.</font><font color="#3333FF"></font>
<p><font color="#3333FF">JBB</font>
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<p>Ralph Walter wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>In a message dated
7/27/2002 10:12:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:</font></font>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><font face="Goudy Old Style"><font color="#000000"><font size=+1>I'm
also finding bits and pieces of coal in the mortar, anyone ever seen this
before. I've seen burnt and unburned pieces of wood but never coal.</font></font></font>
<br> </blockquote>
<p><br><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>Steve,</font></font></font>
<p><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>Could be "impurities"
in the local sand supply. There seem to be sand-size grains of brownstone
in the "historic" (c 1880-1930) mortar where I live. Nobody sells
sand-sized crushed brownstone, though, and I haven't managed to waddle
down and inspect the banks of the Passaic River; there is a fair amount
of brownstone rubble in excavations hereabouts, though.</font></font></font>
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In a message dated 7/28/2002 8:07:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask]
writes:
> Coal could very well have been used as the fuel for burning the limestone.
> As a result, depending on the method used for recovering the quick-lime
> from the kiln, coal chunks and particles could have been included.
Duhhhh here's your sign. Wake up and smell the coffee. Sometimes I just can't
see the forest for the trees.
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In that case the chunks could be charcoal...or coffee beans.
-jc
[log in to unmask] wrote:
> In a message dated 7/28/2002 8:07:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
>
>
>
>> Coal could very well have been used as the fuel for burning the
>> limestone. As a result, depending on the method used for recovering
>> the quick-lime from the kiln, coal chunks and particles could have
>> been included.
>
> Duhhhh here's your sign. Wake up and smell the coffee. Sometimes I
> just can't see the forest for the trees.
>
> Steve
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In that case the chunks could be charcoal...or coffee beans.
<p>-jc
<p>[log in to unmask] wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE><font face="Goudy Old Style"><font size=+1>In a message
dated 7/28/2002 8:07:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:</font></font>
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<br>
<blockquote TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><font face="Arial"><font color="#3333FF"><font size=-1>Coal
could very well have been used as the fuel for burning the limestone. As
a result, depending on the method used for recovering the quick-lime from
the kiln, coal chunks and particles could have been included.</font></font></font></blockquote>
<p><font face="Goudy Old Style"><font color="#000000"><font size=+1>Duhhhh
here's your sign. Wake up and smell the coffee. Sometimes I just can't
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Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 10:33:45 EDT
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From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Wow, cutting it kind of fine now, aren't we...
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In a message dated 7/27/2002 11:14:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> ...I just got some junk email from a septic system vendor. Sign me, Ann
>
Well, whoopie-do.
I'VE (more precisely, Ralph Aia has) been proposed by the President and Board
of Directors as a full member of The National Trust for Historic
Preservation!!!!!! AND they sent me a sticker for the window of my car. I
am so happy.
Except for one thing: will they still accept me as a new member if they ever
find out that I've been a member for something like 30 years already??????
Will they take back their sticker? I am so worried.
Sign me,
Conflicted
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 7/27/2002 11:14:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
<BR>
<BR>
<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">...I just got some junk email from a septic system vendor. Sign me, Ann Aerobic </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>Well, whoopie-do.
<BR>
<BR>I'VE (more precisely, Ralph Aia has) been proposed by the President and Board of Directors as a full member of The National Trust for Historic Preservation!!!!!! AND they sent me a sticker for the window of my car. I am so happy.
<BR>
<BR>Except for one thing: will they still accept me as a new member if they ever find out that I've been a member for something like 30 years already?????? Will they take back their sticker? I am so worried.
<BR>
<BR>Sign me,
<BR>
<BR>Conflicted </FONT></HTML>
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Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 10:35:52 EDT
Reply-To: "Darling,
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In a message dated 7/27/2002 11:38:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> Ewwww you have a diesel?
Steve,
She's a girl, ya know. They have lotsa things we don't.
Ralph "Penis Like a Thumb" Walter
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 7/27/2002 11:38:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
<BR>
<BR>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=4 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Goudy Old Style" LANG="0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Ewwww you have a diesel?</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Goudy Old Style" LANG="0"> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">
<BR>Steve,
<BR>
<BR>She's a girl, ya know. They have lotsa things we don't.
<BR>
<BR>Ralph "Penis Like a Thumb" Walter</FONT></HTML>
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Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 10:36:42 EDT
Reply-To: "Darling,
all I want is that you should be a pinhead -- Arlene Croce"
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> Oh.... how disappointink.
>
>
Sorry, Natasha.
Boris
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 7/27/2002 11:43:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
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<BR>
<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Oh.... how disappointink.
<BR>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BR>Sorry, Natasha.
<BR>
<BR>Boris</FONT></HTML>
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Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 11:15:02 -0400
Reply-To: "Darling,
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From: "J. Bryan Blundell" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: NPS Query
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Query from NPS
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Glacier National Park is planning to re-roof the Many Glacier Hotel
(National Historic Landmark) this fall. The original roofing material was
a cement asbestos tile placed in a "honeycomb pattern" (basically a diamond
pattern with the bottom point cut off). The tile was replaced with wood
shingles in the 1950s. The only manufacturer identified with a similar
substitute material is Cembrit of Denmark. The company will not warranty
its product for installation in this environment.
Has anyone found an appropriate substitute for cement asbestos shingles in
this pattern?
Lon Johnson
Cultural Resource Specialist/Historical Architect
Glacier National Park
West Glacier, Montana 59936
406-888-7943
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<p>==============
<br><font color="#3333FF">Glacier National Park is planning to re-roof
the Many Glacier Hotel (National Historic Landmark) this fall. The
original roofing material was a cement asbestos tile placed in a "honeycomb
pattern" (basically a diamond pattern with the bottom point cut off).
The tile was replaced with wood shingles in the 1950s. The only manufacturer
identified with a similar substitute material is Cembrit of Denmark.
The company will not warranty its product for installation in this environment.</font><font color="#3333FF"></font>
<p><font color="#3333FF">Has anyone found an appropriate substitute for
cement asbestos shingles in</font>
<br><font color="#3333FF">this pattern?</font><font color="#3333FF"></font>
<p><font color="#3333FF">Lon Johnson</font>
<br><font color="#3333FF">Cultural Resource Specialist/Historical Architect</font>
<br><font color="#3333FF">Glacier National Park</font>
<br><font color="#3333FF">West Glacier, Montana 59936</font>
<br><font color="#3333FF">406-888-7943</font></html>
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Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 11:28:21 EDT
Reply-To: "Darling,
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Subject: Re: Wow, cutting it kind of fine now, aren't we...
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In a message dated 7/28/2002 10:34:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
> Except for one thing: will they still accept me as a new member if they
> ever find out that I've been a member for something like 30 years
> already?????? Will they take back their sticker?
Doesn't this just piss you off? Just think of how many other current members
they send the same crap to. Just think of how much money they spend on this.
Steve
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=4 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Goudy Old Style" LANG="0">In a message dated 7/28/2002 10:34:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
<BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Except for one thing: will they still accept me as a new member if they ever find out that I've been a member for something like 30 years already?????? Will they take back their sticker?</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=4 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Goudy Old Style" LANG="0"><BR>
Doesn't this just piss you off? Just think of how many other current members they send the same crap to. Just think of how much money they spend on this.<BR>
<BR>
Steve</FONT></HTML>
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Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 11:30:11 EDT
Reply-To: "Darling,
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From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Yeah yeah yeah ... nice try, david
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In a message dated 7/28/2002 10:36:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
> She's a girl, ya know. They have lotsa things we don't.
Hey, I have a diesel also. But you are correct she still has some things that
I do not.
Steve
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=4 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Goudy Old Style" LANG="0">In a message dated 7/28/2002 10:36:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
<BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">She's a girl, ya know. They have lotsa things we don't.</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=4 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Goudy Old Style" LANG="0"><BR>
Hey, I have a diesel also. But you are correct she still has some things that I do not.<BR>
<BR>
Steve</FONT></HTML>
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Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 11:44:16 EDT
Reply-To: "Darling,
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From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: NPS Query
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In a message dated 7/28/2002 11:14:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
> . The only manufacturer identified with a similar substitute material is
> Cembrit of Denmark. The company will not warranty its product for
> installation in this environment. Has anyone found an appropriate
> substitute for cement asbestos shingles in this pattern?
>
I would look into why the manufacturer won't guarantee it, and consider using
it despite the lack of guarantee, unless there's in fact some compelling
"environmental" difference. We ain't talking about using Hawaiian palm fronds
for roofing in what one would assume to be a winter-driven climate. If they
can't use the Danish stuff, I would recommend slate (NOT Penna slate, either)
cut to match the original cement asbestos.
Glad it ain't my problem, though.
Ralph
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 7/28/2002 11:14:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
<BR>
<BR>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#3333ff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">. The only manufacturer identified with a similar substitute material is Cembrit of Denmark. The company will not warranty its product for installation in this environment.</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"> </FONT><FONT COLOR="#3333ff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Has anyone found an appropriate substitute for cement asbestos shingles in this pattern?</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">
<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BR>
<BR>I would look into why the manufacturer won't guarantee it, and consider using it despite the lack of guarantee, unless there's in fact some compelling "environmental" difference. We ain't talking about using Hawaiian palm fronds for roofing in what one would assume to be a winter-driven climate. If they can't use the Danish stuff, I would recommend slate (NOT Penna slate, either) cut to match the original cement asbestos.
<BR>
<BR>Glad it ain't my problem, though.
<BR>
<BR>Ralph</FONT></HTML>
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Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 11:47:14 EDT
Reply-To: "Darling,
all I want is that you should be a pinhead -- Arlene Croce"
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From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Wow, cutting it kind of fine now, aren't we...
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In a message dated 7/28/2002 11:28:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
> Doesn't this just piss you off? Just think of how many other current members
> they send the same crap to. Just think of how much money they spend on this.
>
>
Steve,
No, I think it's a wonderful thing. Keeps all the lumberjacks and papermill
workers, printers and direct mail assholes in their high-paying jobs, instead
of working for Enron.
Mr. Happy
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 7/28/2002 11:28:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
<BR>
<BR>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=4 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Goudy Old Style" LANG="0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Doesn't this just piss you off? Just think of how many other current members they send the same crap to. Just think of how much money they spend on this.
<BR>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Goudy Old Style" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Steve,
<BR>
<BR>No, I think it's a wonderful thing. Keeps all the lumberjacks and papermill workers, printers and direct mail assholes in their high-paying jobs, instead of working for Enron.
<BR>
<BR>Mr. Happy
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Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 11:50:21 EDT
Reply-To: "Darling,
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From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Yeah yeah yeah ... nice try, david
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In a message dated 7/28/2002 11:30:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> Hey, I have a diesel also.
She's got a diesel, you've got a diesel. Maybe you two should get together.
But watch out for Senior-- he's very protective of her. And if he's like
that, God knows what Mr. Deb is like.
A woid to da wise.
Ralph
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 7/28/2002 11:30:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
<BR>
<BR>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=4 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Goudy Old Style" LANG="0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Hey, I have a diesel also. </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Goudy Old Style" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">
<BR>She's got a diesel, you've got a diesel. Maybe you two should get together.
<BR>
<BR>But watch out for Senior-- he's<U> very</U> protective of her. And if he's like that, God knows what Mr. Deb is like.
<BR>
<BR>A woid to da wise.
<BR>
<BR>Ralph</FONT></HTML>
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Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 12:18:32 EDT
Reply-To: "Darling,
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From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Wow, cutting it kind of fine now, aren't we...
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In a message dated 7/28/2002 11:47:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> No, I think it's a wonderful thing. Keeps all the lumberjacks and papermill
> workers, printers and direct mail assholes in their high-paying jobs,
> instead of working for Enron.
Ralf,
Damn good point.
Steve
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=4 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Goudy Old Style" LANG="0">In a message dated 7/28/2002 11:47:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
<BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">No, I think it's a wonderful thing. Keeps all the lumberjacks and papermill workers, printers and direct mail assholes in their high-paying jobs, instead of working for Enron.</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=4 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Goudy Old Style" LANG="0"><BR>
Ralf,<BR>
<BR>
Damn good point.<BR>
<BR>
Steve</FONT></HTML>
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Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 12:20:07 EDT
Reply-To: "Darling,
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In a message dated 7/28/2002 11:50:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> She's got a diesel, you've got a diesel. Maybe you two should get together.
>
>
She likes Guiness also.
Steve
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=4 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Goudy Old Style" LANG="0">In a message dated 7/28/2002 11:50:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">She's got a diesel, you've got a diesel. Maybe you two should get together. <BR>
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She likes Guiness also.<BR>
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Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 13:40:38 EDT
Reply-To: "Darling,
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From: Mike Devonshire <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Wow, cutting it kind of fine now, aren't we...
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In a message dated 7/28/2002 11:28:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> Doesn't this just piss you off? Just think of how many other current members
> they send the same crap to. Just think of how much money they spend on this.
>
Gee, I don't know how they find the time to vote on all these things and
still take care of the nation's heritage.
Village Idiot
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 7/28/2002 11:28:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
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<BR>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=4 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Doesn't this just piss you off? Just think of how many other current members they send the same crap to. Just think of how much money they spend on this.
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<BR>Gee, I don't know how they find the time to vote on all these things and still take care of the nation's heritage.
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Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 14:15:51 EDT
Reply-To: "Darling,
all I want is that you should be a pinhead -- Arlene Croce"
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From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Wow, cutting it kind of fine now, aren't we...
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In a message dated 7/28/2002 1:40:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask]
writes:
> Gee, I don't know how they find the time to vote on all these things and
> still take care of the nation's heritage.
>
>
Mr. T,
They're very good, and we're very fortunate that they're so alert to
fundraising opportunities. Think how much it would cost us if they weren't!
They are also better at collecting dues than the Pinheads.
Ralph
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 7/28/2002 1:40:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
<BR>
<BR>
<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Gee, I don't know how they find the time to vote on all these things and still take care of the nation's heritage.
<BR>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Mr. T,
<BR>
<BR>They're very good, and we're very fortunate that they're so alert to fundraising opportunities. Think how much it would cost us if they weren't!
<BR>
<BR>They are also better at collecting dues than the Pinheads.
<BR>
<BR>Ralph</FONT></HTML>
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Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 14:21:20 EDT
Reply-To: "Darling,
all I want is that you should be a pinhead -- Arlene Croce"
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From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: wood consolidants: new variation on old rule
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I am pleafed to report that I have just promulgated a new 4F Floor Rule:
Fix 'em, fand 'em, feal 'em, and forget 'em.
Fign me,
Newton J. Einstein
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<BR>
<BR>Fix 'em, fand 'em, feal 'em, and forget 'em.
<BR>
<BR>Fign me,
<BR>
<BR>Newton J. Einstein
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Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 14:32:33 EDT
Reply-To: "Darling,
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Subject: Franmar Chemical
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Anyone ever used Franmar's Soy-Gel paint remover?
Steve
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=4 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Goudy Old Style" LANG="0">Anyone ever used Franmar's Soy-Gel paint remover? <BR>
<BR>
Steve</FONT></HTML>
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Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 15:08:51 -0400
Reply-To: "Darling,
all I want is that you should be a pinhead -- Arlene Croce"
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From: "J. Bryan Blundell" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Franmar Chemical
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The building that Vandalia Heritage Foundation, co-host of IPTW-2002, uses
for their office building is an old victorian residence. They stripped the
interior with some sort of Soy Paint Remover and were very pleased with how
it performed. Michael Mills is now with Vandalia (he ws not there during
the re-do project) and can get information for you on what was used.
(Michael Mills = [log in to unmask])
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> Anyone ever used Franmar's Soy-Gel paint remover?
>
> Steve
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<font color="#3333FF">The building that Vandalia Heritage Foundation, co-host
of IPTW-2002, uses for their office building is an old victorian residence.
They stripped the interior with some sort of Soy Paint Remover and were
very pleased with how it performed. Michael Mills is now with
Vandalia (he ws not there during the re-do project) and can get information
for you on what was used. (Michael Mills = [log in to unmask])</font>
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Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 07:34:15 -0700
Reply-To: "Darling,
all I want is that you should be a pinhead -- Arlene Croce"
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<[log in to unmask]>
From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]>
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I get that too, along with ones for: increasing my PENIS size, a degree in
most anything--but not historic preservation, all sorts of NATURAL herbs,
and on and on. As we are moving soon I have unsubbed from nearly all the
lists I was on--just staying on here and one Alzheimer's disease list till
the last minute. I am still getting over 200 messages a day all but about
10 being junk. I am changing internet providers when we move. Hope it
will take the junkies a while to catch up with me. Ruth
At 11:13 PM -0400 7/27/02, Met History wrote:
...I just got some junk email from a septic system vendor. Sign me, Ann
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Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 21:01:30 EDT
Reply-To: "Darling,
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From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Wow, cutting it kind of fine now, aren't we...
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In a message dated 7/28/2002 3:52:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> . I am still getting over 200 messages a day all but about
> 10 being junk.
190 Bullamanka-Pinheads message a day. Wow.
Ralph
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 7/28/2002 3:52:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
<BR>
<BR>
<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">. I am still getting over 200 messages a day all but about
<BR>10 being junk. </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">
<BR>190 Bullamanka-Pinheads message a day. Wow.
<BR>
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Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 06:42:48 -0400
Reply-To: "Darling,
all I want is that you should be a pinhead -- Arlene Croce"
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<[log in to unmask]>
From: "J. Bryan Blundell" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: PTN Website
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PTN Website
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Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 06:59:14 -0400
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> Nobody sells sand-sized crushed brownstone, though, and I haven't
managed to
> waddle down and inspect the banks of the Passaic River; there is a
fair
> amount of brownstone rubble in excavations hereabouts, though.
>
> Ralph
>
>
There are deposits of brown and red-brown sands to be found in the
Connecticut Valley. Two years ago we needed to find a specific size of
red-brown sand for a project in San Francisco. We ended up drying and
screening about 30,000 pounds of sand to get about 1000 pounds of just
what we were looking for.
Edison Coatings, Inc.
M. P. Edison
President
3 Northwest Drive
Plainville, CT 06062 USA
Phone: (860)747-2220
Fax: (860)747-2280
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Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 07:03:58 -0400
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Sender: "Darling,
all I want is that you should be a pinhead -- Arlene Croce"
<[log in to unmask]>
From: "M. P. Edison" <[log in to unmask]>
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Ruth:
My recent experiences with changing e-mail addresses makes it clear to
me that our beloved listserv IS the source of all this junk. Free, huh?
Mike E.
> I get that too, along with ones for: increasing my PENIS size, a
degree in
> most anything--but not historic preservation, all sorts of NATURAL
herbs,
> and on and on. As we are moving soon I have unsubbed from nearly all
the
> lists I was on--just staying on here and one Alzheimer's disease list
till
> the last minute. I am still getting over 200 messages a day all but
about
> 10 being junk. I am changing internet providers when we move. Hope
it
> will take the junkies a while to catch up with me. Ruth
>
>
>
> At 11:13 PM -0400 7/27/02, Met History wrote:
> ...I just got some junk email from a septic system vendor. Sign me,
Ann
> Aerobic
>
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> [log in to unmask]
> Westminster, VT
>
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Edison Coatings, Inc.
M. P. Edison
President
3 Northwest Drive
Plainville, CT 06062 USA
Phone: (860)747-2220
Fax: (860)747-2280
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Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 07:11:12 -0400
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From: "S. Sasser" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Wow, cutting it kind of fine now, aren't we...
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How about the trillions of CD-Rs that AOL sent out and claimed as a =
capital expense . . . and you can't even use them as a window decal in =
your diesel.
Lisa
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To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: Wow, cutting it kind of fine now, aren't we...
In a message dated 7/28/2002 11:28:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time, =
[log in to unmask] writes:=20
Doesn't this just piss you off? Just think of how many other current =
members they send the same crap to. Just think of how much money they =
spend on this.=20
Steve,=20
No, I think it's a wonderful thing. Keeps all the lumberjacks and =
papermill workers, printers and direct mail assholes in their =
high-paying jobs, instead of working for Enron.=20
Mr. Happy=20
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FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF">In a message dated 7/28/2002 11:28:36 AM Eastern =
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Time, <A href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A> =
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TYPE=3D"CITE">Doesn't this just piss you off? Just think of how many =
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they spend on this. <BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D0 face=3D"Goudy Old =
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Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 08:34:52 -0400
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all I want is that you should be a pinhead -- Arlene Croce"
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From: Leland Torrence <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: working for Enron...
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If you had bought $1000.00 worth of Nortel stock one
year ago, it would now be worth $49.00.
With Enron, you would have $16.50 of the original
$1,000.00.
With Worldcom, you would have less than $5.00 left.
If you had bought $1,000.00 worth of beer one year
ago, drank all the beer, then turned in the cans for
the 5 cent deposit, you would have $60.00.
Based on the above, the course is clear: drink heavily and recycle.
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From: Darling, all I want is that you should be a pinhead -- Arlene
Croce [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
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In a message dated 7/28/2002 11:47:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
No, I think it's a wonderful thing. Keeps all the lumberjacks and
papermill workers, printers and direct mail assholes in their
high-paying jobs, instead of working for Enron.
Ralf,
Damn good point.
Steve
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><FONT color=#000000 size=3>If you had bought
$1000.00 worth of Nortel stock one<BR>year ago, it would now be worth
$49.00.<BR><BR>With Enron, you would have $16.50 of the
original<BR>$1,000.00.<BR><BR>With Worldcom, you would have less than $5.00
left.<BR><BR>If you had bought $1,000.00 worth of beer one year<BR>ago, drank
all the beer, then turned in the cans for<BR>the 5 cent deposit, you would have
$60.00.<BR><BR>Based on the above, the course is clear: drink heavily and
recycle. </FONT>
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face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Darling, all I
want is that you should be a pinhead -- Arlene Croce
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>[log in to unmask]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, July 28, 2002 12:19
PM<BR><B>To:</B> [log in to unmask]<BR><B>Subject:</B>
Re: Wow, cutting it kind of fine now, aren't we...<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT
face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face="Goudy Old Style" size=4
FAMILY="SERIF">In a message dated 7/28/2002 11:47:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:<BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2
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<BLOCKQUOTE
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TYPE="CITE">No, I think it's a wonderful thing. Keeps all the
lumberjacks and papermill workers, printers and direct mail assholes in
their high-paying jobs, instead of working for Enron.</FONT><FONT lang=0
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial color=#000000 size=3
FAMILY="SANSSERIF"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0
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Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 08:41:26 EDT
Reply-To: "Darling,
all I want is that you should be a pinhead -- Arlene Croce"
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From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Wow, cutting it kind of fine now, aren't we...
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In a message dated 7/27/2002 8:14:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
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> ...I just got some junk email from a septic system vendor. Sign me, Ann
> Aerobic
Aha, this reminds me of the time I was in love with the Baltimore bred
cowgirl sculptress lesbian that was driving me insane and so I got the bright
idea to consult the I-Ching for a magic phone number that would change my
life. Meditated, lotus posture the whole shebang, threw my holyfied quarters
and came up with a number. When I called I got Rotor-Rooter. The fine
print... don't mess with the book of changes. True story. ;-)
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 7/27/2002 8:14:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">...I just got some junk email from a septic system vendor. Sign me, Ann Aerobic</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="arial" LANG="0"> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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Aha, this reminds me of the time I was in love with the Baltimore bred cowgirl sculptress lesbian that was driving me insane and so I got the bright idea to consult the I-Ching for a magic phone number that would change my life. Meditated, lotus posture the whole shebang, threw my holyfied quarters and came up with a number. When I called I got Rotor-Rooter. The fine print... don't mess with the book of changes. True story. ;-)<BR>
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Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 08:52:41 EDT
Reply-To: "Darling,
all I want is that you should be a pinhead -- Arlene Croce"
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From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Sand Mining
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In a message dated 7/29/2002 3:59:10 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
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> We ended up drying and screening about 30,000 pounds of sand to get about
> 1000 pounds of just what we were looking for.
In the past I've suggested a day trip to a sand mine... but got a sour
response. There is a lot to sand that people do not think about.
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 7/29/2002 3:59:10 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">We ended up drying and screening about 30,000 pounds of sand to get about 1000 pounds of just what we were looking for.</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
<BR>
In the past I've suggested a day trip to a sand mine... but got a sour response. There is a lot to sand that people do not think about.<BR>
<BR>
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Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 08:58:40 EDT
Reply-To: "Darling,
all I want is that you should be a pinhead -- Arlene Croce"
<[log in to unmask]>
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<[log in to unmask]>
From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Wow, cutting it kind of fine now, aren't we...
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In a message dated 7/29/2002 4:04:28 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
> My recent experiences with changing e-mail addresses makes it clear to
> me that our beloved listserv IS the source of all this junk. Free, huh?
Michael,
Whereas my change a few months back of my home ISP, including subscribing to
BP, has NOT resulted in a deluge of junk e-mail.
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">My recent experiences with changing e-mail addresses makes it clear to<BR>
me that our beloved listserv IS the source of all this junk. Free, huh?</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
<BR>
Michael,<BR>
<BR>
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Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 10:19:50 EDT
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From: Met History <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Thank you Donald, but....
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In a message dated 7/27/02 10:45:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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>
Was it a Kaypro? Best, Christopher DC/AC
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Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 11:26:53 -0400
Reply-To: "Darling,
all I want is that you should be a pinhead -- Arlene Croce"
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Sounds to me like what I have always referred to as "southern hard pine" or
"long leaf pine". It makes a beautiful wood floor and is most often found in
utilitarian rooms like kitchens and attics. I love the look but the
splinters are nasty. I suggest that you try sanding an area and see what
happens. I have always had success even when the floor looked bad.
Let us know how it works out!
Please note my direct phone and fax numbers have changed again
Eric Hammarberg
Associate Director of Preservation
Associate
LZA Technology
641 Avenue of the Americas
New York, NY 10011-2014
Telephone: 917.661.8160 (Direct)
Mobile: 917.439.3537
Fax: 917.661.8161 (Direct)
email: [log in to unmask]
-----Original Message-----
From: deb bledsoe [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 2:45 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: wood consolidants
OK crew, there have been a lot of posts in the past about masonry
consolidants of various types, but I've never seen anything about wood....
I have a situation here with the Uncle's parlour floor that I have a
question about.
It is some type of pine or fir, kind of orange colored, and dates to the
1870's.
It had something over it at some point, like linoleum or something, and/or
it was painted brown, but nothing is left but a residual bit of gunk, and
most of that is worn away in the traffic areas, and the floor is
splintering. The wood is all "dried out", even in this humidity.
I doubt I could even sand it, at this point. The surface comes up in big
splinters when I just walk across it in socks in a lot of places. I want to
refinish it in some way that is very low maintenance, but my only experience
with wood floors has been with jobs where the flooring itself was still in
real good shape and just needed sanding etc, and then we cleaned up stains,
matched patches for old register cutouts, and put down multiple coats of
polyurethane. Nothing complicated.
Where should I look for information to get started on deciding a course of
action?
deb
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Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 12:42:26 EDT
Reply-To: "Darling,
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Subject: Re: Wow, cutting it kind of fine now, aren't we...
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writes:
> Baltimore bred cowgirl sculptress lesbian
Wow! Where did you manage to find this one?
Steve
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Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 12:54:26 -0400
Reply-To: "Darling,
all I want is that you should be a pinhead -- Arlene Croce"
<[log in to unmask]>
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<[log in to unmask]>
From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Wow, cutting it kind of fine now, aren't we...
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In a message dated Mon, 29 Jul 2002 7:41:26 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
> Aha, this reminds me of the time I was in love with the Baltimore bred cowgirl sculptress lesbian that was driving me
> insanE.
Ken,
Maybe we could introduce your dyke to mine (AKA the PenPal). Just hope you didn't spend 7 years chasing yours. Mine didn't decide until some years later that she didn't like boys.
Talk about torquing one's shorts....
Ralph
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Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 15:51:47 EDT
Reply-To: "Darling,
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<[log in to unmask]>
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<[log in to unmask]>
From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Wow, cutting it kind of fine now, aren't we...
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In a message dated 7/29/2002 9:43:13 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
> Wow! Where did you manage to find this one?
Well, one day in the rental house in Lansing, NY I was rolling a dead
refrigerator out the door onto the porch on an empty beer can, sort of an
experiment, and when the frig got caught in the door and this young lady came
up to answer the add for the spare room, the one I was vacating to move into
the barn with the barn swallows, another experiment I suppose along with a
diet of dandelion greens -- I had to climb over the frig to say hello. Sara
had to climb over the frig to see the room. The fact that one wall in the
room I had half painted black, just enough so that if I rolled over in bed I
saw a black wall, that it did not seem to phase her, that, along with her
claiming one day that my blue eyes reminded her of Samuel Becket -- well that
sort of started it. I found out early she was a metalic sculptress, a twin,
and from Baltimore. We undertook a rather stormy relationship, and a great
deal of creative misunderstandings. Eventually we wore each other out. I
ended up reading an awful lot of Carl Jung -- his Bollingen collected works
versions. My relationship following was with a color-field painter who had
spent four years in Bellevue for treatment of her heroin addiction. Jill had
a cat that had a habit of covertly shitting on all of the personal bed
pillows in the communal house.
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</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=4 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Goudy Old Style" LANG="0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Wow! Where did you manage to find this one?</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Goudy Old Style" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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Well, one day in the rental house in Lansing, NY I was rolling a dead refrigerator out the door onto the porch on an empty beer can, sort of an experiment, and when the frig got caught in the door and this young lady came up to answer the add for the spare room, the one I was vacating to move into the barn with the barn swallows, another experiment I suppose along with a diet of dandelion greens -- I had to climb over the frig to say hello. Sara had to climb over the frig to see the room. The fact that one wall in the room I had half painted black, just enough so that if I rolled over in bed I saw a black wall, that it did not seem to phase her, that, along with her claiming one day that my blue eyes reminded her of Samuel Becket -- well that sort of started it. I found out early she was a metalic sculptress, a twin, and from Baltimore. We undertook a rather stormy relationship, and a great deal of creative misunderstandings. Eventually we wore each other out. I ended up reading an awful lot of Carl Jung -- his Bollingen collected works versions. My relationship following was with a color-field painter who had spent four years in Bellevue for treatment of her heroin addiction. Jill had a cat that had a habit of covertly shitting on all of the personal bed pillows in the communal house.<BR>
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Having had the advantages of my mother being the craziest and most
dangerous woman I was likely to ever come in contact with, I rather
affectively avoided dating crazy women...mostly. There is something
flame like about them, ain't there.
-jc
Ken Follett wrote:
> In a message dated 7/29/2002 9:43:13 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
>
>
>
>> Wow! Where did you manage to find this one?
>
> Well, one day in the rental house in Lansing, NY I was rolling a dead
> refrigerator out the door onto the porch on an empty beer can, sort of
> an experiment, and when the frig got caught in the door and this young
> lady came up to answer the add for the spare room, the one I was
> vacating to move into the barn with the barn swallows, another
> experiment I suppose along with a diet of dandelion greens -- I had to
> climb over the frig to say hello. Sara had to climb over the frig to
> see the room. The fact that one wall in the room I had half painted
> black, just enough so that if I rolled over in bed I saw a black wall,
> that it did not seem to phase her, that, along with her claiming one
> day that my blue eyes reminded her of Samuel Becket -- well that sort
> of started it. I found out early she was a metalic sculptress, a twin,
> and from Baltimore. We undertook a rather stormy relationship, and a
> great deal of creative misunderstandings. Eventually we wore each
> other out. I ended up reading an awful lot of Carl Jung -- his
> Bollingen collected works versions. My relationship following was with
> a color-field painter who had spent four years in Bellevue for
> treatment of her heroin addiction. Jill had a cat that had a habit of
> covertly shitting on all of the personal bed pillows in the communal
> house.
>
> ][<en
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Having had the advantages of my mother being the craziest and most dangerous
woman I was likely to ever come in contact with, I rather affectively avoided
dating crazy women...mostly. There is something flame like
about them, ain't there.
<p>-jc
<p>Ken Follett wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>In a message dated
7/29/2002 9:43:13 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:</font></font>
<br>
<br>
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Where did you manage to find this one?</font></font></font></blockquote>
<p><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>Well, one day
in the rental house in Lansing, NY I was rolling a dead refrigerator out
the door onto the porch on an empty beer can, sort of an experiment, and
when the frig got caught in the door and this young lady came up to answer
the add for the spare room, the one I was vacating to move into the barn
with the barn swallows, another experiment I suppose along with a diet
of dandelion greens -- I had to climb over the frig to say hello. Sara
had to climb over the frig to see the room. The fact that one wall in the
room I had half painted black, just enough so that if I rolled over in
bed I saw a black wall, that it did not seem to phase her, that, along
with her claiming one day that my blue eyes reminded her of Samuel Becket
-- well that sort of started it. I found out early she was a metalic sculptress,
a twin, and from Baltimore. We undertook a rather stormy relationship,
and a great deal of creative misunderstandings. Eventually we wore each
other out. I ended up reading an awful lot of Carl Jung -- his Bollingen
collected works versions. My relationship following was with a color-field
painter who had spent four years in Bellevue for treatment of her heroin
addiction. Jill had a cat that had a habit of covertly shitting on all
of the personal bed pillows in the communal house.</font></font></font>
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There is "redstone" along I-91 in Greenfield, MA area. It is quite soft
and crumbly. Also must be some in the Champlain valley as Univ VT has/had
it's lovely Redstone Campus. I haven't been up that way for many years so
I don't know if they still have it or if they sold/demolished it. What
made redstone anyway? Ruth
At 6:59 AM -0400 7/29/02, M. P. Edison wrote:
>> Nobody sells sand-sized crushed brownstone, though, and I haven't
>managed to
>> waddle down and inspect the banks of the Passaic River; there is a
>fair
>> amount of brownstone rubble in excavations hereabouts, though.
>>
>> Ralph
>>
>>
>There are deposits of brown and red-brown sands to be found in the
>Connecticut Valley. Two years ago we needed to find a specific size of
>red-brown sand for a project in San Francisco. We ended up drying and
>screening about 30,000 pounds of sand to get about 1000 pounds of just
>what we were looking for.
>
>Edison Coatings, Inc.
>M. P. Edison
>President
>3 Northwest Drive
>Plainville, CT 06062 USA
>Phone: (860)747-2220
>Fax: (860)747-2280
>email: [log in to unmask]
>Internet: www.edisoncoatings.com
>
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In a message dated 7/29/2002 1:30:32 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
> What made redstone anyway?
>
The dinosaurs taking a piss on a hot sediment... no, not actually, it is from
iron.
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 7/29/2002 1:30:32 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">What made redstone anyway? <BR>
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The dinosaurs taking a piss on a hot sediment... no, not actually, it is from iron.<BR>
<BR>
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> In the past I've suggested a day trip to a sand mine... but got a
sour
> response. There is a lot to sand that people do not think about.
>
> ][<en
>
>
Perhaps you should have suggested a trip to inspect the sand in the
Bahamas in February. You might fortify your arguments with the IRS if
you present them with receipts for toxic dust respirators.
Edison Coatings, Inc.
M. P. Edison
President
3 Northwest Drive
Plainville, CT 06062 USA
Phone: (860)747-2220
Fax: (860)747-2280
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> In the past I've suggested a day trip to a sand mine... but got a
>
OK, pickle-face, where is the nearest sand mine? I'm ready.
Sign me, Lemon Drop
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In a message dated 7/29/2002 4:30:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> What made redstone anyway?
Ruth,
God.
Ralph
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<BR>
<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">What made redstone anyway? </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">
<BR> Ruth,
<BR>
<BR>God.
<BR>
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In a message dated 7/29/2002 2:59:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
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> OK, pickle-face, where is the nearest sand mine? I'm ready.
>
There is a kool looking one on Long Island out near Exit 49 on the LIE. Lots
of different colored piles of sand. I'll check into if they will let us in,
there is also Scofield in NJ that, though not a mine, may be interesting as
well. There has to be a few up the Hudson as well that may be worth checking
into.
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<BR>
<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">OK, pickle-face, where is the nearest sand mine? I'm ready. </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">There is a kool looking one on Long Island out near Exit 49 on the LIE. Lots of different colored piles of sand. I'll check into if they will let us in, there is also Scofield in NJ that, though not a mine, may be interesting as well. There has to be a few up the Hudson as well that may be worth checking into.<BR>
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I got a flash story published in an e-zine, "The Celesital Teletransportation
Conduit" at Insolent Rudder: http://www.insolentrudder.org/story35.html
A slightly different version than the earlier one posted at Cobblehouse:
http://www.cobblehouse.com/art/wb/go/ct_conduit.html
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Reply-To: "Darling,
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>
> >> What made redstone anyway?
>
> Ruth,
>
> God.
>
> Ralph
Unlike Brownstone, which was clearly made by Satan.
Twybil
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<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><BR>
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Ruth, <BR>
<BR>
God. <BR>
<BR>
Ralph</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
<BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Unlike Brownstone, which was clearly made by Satan.<BR>
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> ][<en,
I will have to find you at IPTW because judging by this story you should have
some even better ones to tell.
Steve
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</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=4 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Goudy Old Style" LANG="0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">][<en,</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=4 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Goudy Old Style" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=4 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Goudy Old Style" LANG="0">I will have to find you at IPTW because judging by this story you should have some even better ones to tell.<BR>
<BR>
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> Ruth,
>
> God.
>
> Ralph
Youz guys are killing me.
Steve
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Ruth, <BR>
<BR>
God. <BR>
<BR>
Ralph</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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Youz guys are killing me.<BR>
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From: Jay Winston Shuffield <[log in to unmask]>
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Subject: 150 St.
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Has anybody heard anything about a historic house burning down on 150th
Street in Manhattan?
Jay W. Shuffield
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 10:33:13 -0400
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In a message dated Tue, 30 Jul 2002 6:51:04 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
> OK, pickle-face, where is the nearest sand mine? I'm
> ready.
Ken & Twy,
Do we get to pound sand, or just salt?
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 07:42:58 -0700
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Ralph, I shoulda known that!!!! My ex used to try to explain how
electricity works, over and over and over. I never did get it but I would
get sick of hearing him and tell him "it's a mystery of God." Just one of
the many reasons he's now my ex. Ruth
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What made redstone anyway?
Ruth,
God.
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 11:00:32 EDT
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In a message dated 7/30/02 7:51:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask]
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> There is a kool looking one on Long Island out near Exit 49 on the LIE. Lots
> of different colored piles of sand. I'll check into if they will let us in,
> there is also Scofield in NJ that, though not a mine, may be interesting as
> well. There has to be a few up the Hudson as well that may be worth
> checking into.
>
OK, I'm ready, if its a weekend in September. And if I can drive someone's
Morgan there. Sign me, Rara Avis
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3>In a message dated 7/30/02 7:51:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
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<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">There is a kool looking one on Long Island out near Exit 49 on the LIE. Lots of different colored piles of sand. I'll check into if they will let us in, there is also Scofield in NJ that, though not a mine, may be interesting as well. There has to be a few up the Hudson as well that may be worth checking into.
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<BR>OK, I'm ready, if its a weekend in September. And if I can drive someone's Morgan there. Sign me, Rara Avis </FONT></HTML>
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 11:24:15 EDT
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Thanks Leland that was good; as was Kens girlfriend story; this time last
year I was very close tio the Enron story
My friend Doug worked for Enron; he was the manger of the New York office,
and this time last year I was staying with him at his digs over in the
tenderloin on 44th.
The Pan Am had been rough for me ; there were alot of crass micro managers
there who didn't give a crap about restoration plus they thought they owned
you.
I bristled up against them like a porcupine to a maundering bear...it wasn't
pretty
Id come home at night worn out from fighting and the double dealing of
palace politics that made Machivelli look like Clara Barton..
..Doug was there; and over refreshment he would tell me about Enron;
as capo du tuti capo of the New York office... he hadn't an idea about what
was going on in Texas ; like me he had no uncles or "beards" in the Texas
office ; his communication was icy....he felt out of the loop ..and it was
getting worse..
He just didn't understand; he would say he was delivering for them yet he
was getting iced .We both took our jobs personally
Many a late summer and early sept night passed like this until 911 when we
saw the incoming planes over the Pan Am; And as the towers collapsed the
world changed ...so did the infrastructure of Enron begin its list to
starboard. .
Doug said he spent the nest few months literally re arranging the deck chairs
in futile attempts of unexplained directives from Texas.
When the great ship finally went down .
.. Doug lost $250,000 in retirement; unlike older employees he is now back
on his feet doing investment banking .
The Pan Am is finishing up this next month looking good; despite all the
blood and acrimony on the floor .. Me ; Im back home letting my 2 1/2 yr old
chase me around the grape arbor. in constructive therapy.... see you at PTN
....best Michael
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In a message dated Tue, 30 Jul 2002 8:09:24 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
> Unlike Brownstone, which was clearly made by Satan.
The distinguished gentleman is correct. God made granite, and that other guy made everything else, stonewise. Including Tuckahoe marble, but definitely brownstone.
Call me,
Rockeyed Theogeologist
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In a message dated Tue, 30 Jul 2002 9:42:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
> !!!! My ex used to try to explain how electricity works, over and over and over. I never did get it but I would
get sick of hearing him and tell him "it's a mystery of
God." Just one of the many reasons he's now my ex.
Ruth,
If he didn't say it louder every time he tried to explain it, you probably shoulda hung onto him (that's what Mrs. Ralph accuses me of). Norman Weiss once told me that nobody really knows how glue works.
Meanwhile, you never mentioned that there was an Ex-Mr. Ruth. So you're used goods, huh?
Ralph
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:03:19 EDT
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From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Wow, cutting it kind of fine now, aren't we...
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In a message dated 7/30/2002 6:47:18 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
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> I will have to find you at IPTW because judging by this story you should
> have some even better ones to tell.
Steve,
In person I try not to speak. I like to listen and then speak a little bit.
You tell me a good story and I'll remember one in response.
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 7/30/2002 6:47:18 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Goudy Old Style" LANG="0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I will have to find you at IPTW because judging by this story you should have some even better ones to tell.</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=4 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Goudy Old Style" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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<BR>
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:03:43 EDT
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> Has anybody heard anything about a historic house burning down on 150th
> Street in Manhattan?
What year?
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:06:38 EDT
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In a message dated 7/30/2002 7:49:11 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
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> I never did get it but I would get sick of hearing him and tell him "it's a
> mystery of God."
Ruth,
Truth is that nobody knows how electricity works, and if they think that they
do, then they are full of crap. Ask any physicist or electrician that has
thought about it longer than you ex.
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 7/30/2002 7:49:11 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I never did get it but I would get sick of hearing him and tell him "it's a mystery of God." </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
<BR>
Ruth,<BR>
<BR>
Truth is that nobody knows how electricity works, and if they think that they do, then they are full of crap. Ask any physicist or electrician that has thought about it longer than you ex.<BR>
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:09:17 EDT
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Subject: Re: working for Enron
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In a message dated 7/30/2002 8:24:46 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
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> The Pan Am is finishing up this next month looking good; despite all the
> blood and acrimony on the floor .. Me ; Im back home letting my 2 1/2 yr
> old chase me around the grape arbor. in constructive therapy.... see you
> at PTN
Michael,
Don't forget to bring some stories for the Creative Moose session.
Thanks,
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<BR>
<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">The Pan Am is finishing up this next month looking good; despite all the blood and acrimony on the floor .. Me ; Im back home letting my 2 1/2 yr old chase me around the grape arbor. in constructive therapy.... see you at PTN</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
<BR>
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<BR>
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:12:28 EDT
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In a message dated 7/30/2002 12:24:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> Tuckahoe marble
That's Tuckahoe Mica, with sprinkles of limestone.
Twyz.
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:15:31 EDT
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Subject: Stoned Names, Help Needed
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My brother-in-law, Ricardo of Pam & Ricardo, has requested that I inquire --
What is the name of the large stone that forms the threshold / stepping stone
of a doorway? I have no clue.
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My brother-in-law, Ricardo of Pam & Ricardo, has requested that I inquire -- What is the name of the large stone that forms the threshold / stepping stone of a doorway? I have no clue.<BR>
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:17:12 EDT
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In a message dated 7/30/2002 4:16:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask]
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> What is the name of the large stone that forms the threshold / stepping
> stone of a doorway?
Is this a trick question?
Idiot du Village
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<BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Verdana" LANG="0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">What is the name of the large stone that forms the threshold / stepping stone of a doorway? </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Verdana" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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Is this a trick question?<BR>
<BR>
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:23:47 EDT
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From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Stoned Names, Help Needed
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In a message dated 7/30/2002 1:17:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [log in to unmask]
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> Is this a trick question?
No.
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 7/30/2002 1:17:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Is this a trick question?</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:24:17 EDT
Reply-To: "Darling,
all I want is that you should be a pinhead -- Arlene Croce"
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From: Met History <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: 150 St. - I could use a flint, even!
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[log in to unmask] writes:
Has anybody heard anything about a historic house burning down on 150th
> >> Street in Manhattan?
No, but it could be arranged. Sign me, Infernal Combustion
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3>[log in to unmask] writes:
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Has anybody heard anything about a historic house burning down on 150th
<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Street in Manhattan?</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BR>
<BR>No, but it could be arranged. Sign me, Infernal Combustion
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:26:31 EDT
Reply-To: "Darling,
all I want is that you should be a pinhead -- Arlene Croce"
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From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Wow, cutting it kind of fine now, aren't we...
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In a message dated 7/30/2002 4:03:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask]
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> In person I try not to speak. I like to listen and then speak a little bit.
> You tell me a good story and I'll remember one in response.
>
I don't have anything that compares to your black wall.
Steve
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=4 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Goudy Old Style" LANG="0">In a message dated 7/30/2002 4:03:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
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</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">In person I try not to speak. I like to listen and then speak a little bit. You tell me a good story and I'll remember one in response.<BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=4 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Goudy Old Style" LANG="0"><BR>
I don't have anything that compares to your black wall.<BR>
<BR>
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:28:12 EDT
Reply-To: "Darling,
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From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: working for Enron
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In a message dated 7/30/2002 4:10:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask]
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> Don't forget to bring some stories for the Creative Moose session.
>
And the three card Monte.
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</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Don't forget to bring some stories for the Creative Moose session.<BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 18:03:27 EDT
Reply-To: "Darling,
all I want is that you should be a pinhead -- Arlene Croce"
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From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Wow, cutting it kind of fine now, aren't we...
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In a message dated 7/30/2002 2:27:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
> I don't have anything that compares to your black wall.
Steve,
Oh shucks! Try it. Any story will do for starters, like w/ sourdough. You
know how many years it took me to figure out how screwed up I was so's I
could talk about it now? I do intend to read/tell a few stories, though,
maybe, at the Creative Moose session.
][<en
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 7/30/2002 2:27:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=4 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Goudy Old Style" LANG="0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I don't have anything that compares to your black wall.</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Goudy Old Style" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
Steve,<BR>
<BR>
Oh shucks! Try it. Any story will do for starters, like w/ sourdough. You know how many years it took me to figure out how screwed up I was so's I could talk about it now? I do intend to read/tell a few stories, though, maybe, at the Creative Moose session.<BR>
<BR>
][<en</FONT></HTML>
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 18:07:14 EDT
Reply-To: "Darling,
all I want is that you should be a pinhead -- Arlene Croce"
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From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Careful with that Paint Stripper!
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In a message dated 7/30/02 9:52:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
> Youz guys are killing me.
>
Steve,
It's spelled "youse" and pronounced "yiz." It's "y'all" in Yankee.
Ralph
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 7/30/02 9:52:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=4 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Youz guys are killing me.<BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
Steve,<BR>
<BR>
It's spelled "youse" and pronounced "yiz." It's "y'all" in Yankee.<BR>
<BR>
Ralph</FONT></HTML>
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 18:13:13 EDT
Reply-To: "Darling,
all I want is that you should be a pinhead -- Arlene Croce"
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From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Stoned Names, Help Needed
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In a message dated 7/30/02 4:16:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask]
writes:
> What is the name of the large stone that forms the threshold / stepping
> stone of a doorway? I have no clue.
>
Ken,
Sure you do, you just had a brief lapse.
It's a sill.
Ralph
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 7/30/02 4:16:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Verdana" LANG="0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">What is the name of the large stone that forms the threshold / stepping stone of a doorway? I have no clue.<BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Verdana" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
Ken,<BR>
<BR>
Sure you do, you just had a brief lapse.<BR>
<BR>
It's a sill.<BR>
<BR>
Ralph</FONT></HTML>
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 18:15:41 EDT
Reply-To: "Darling,
all I want is that you should be a pinhead -- Arlene Croce"
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From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Wow, cutting it kind of fine now, aren't we...
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In a message dated 7/30/02 5:27:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
> I don't have anything that compares to your black wall.
>
Steve,
Does this mean you don't have anything black, AND you don't have any walls?
Or is this a trick statement?
Ralph
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 7/30/02 5:27:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=4 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I don't have anything that compares to your black wall.<BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
Steve,<BR>
<BR>
Does this mean you don't have anything black, AND you don't have any walls? Or is this a trick statement?<BR>
<BR>
Ralph</FONT></HTML>
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 18:16:56 EDT
Reply-To: "Darling,
all I want is that you should be a pinhead -- Arlene Croce"
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From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: working for Enron
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In a message dated 7/30/02 5:28:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> And the three card Monte.
Steve,
I'll bring the cards. Ken can be the shill You bring the money.
Ralph
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 7/30/02 5:28:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=4 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">And the three card Monte.</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
Steve,<BR>
<BR>
I'll bring the cards. Ken can be the shill You bring the money. <BR>
<BR>
Ralph</FONT></HTML>
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 19:08:13 EDT
Reply-To: "Darling,
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From: Jim Hicks <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Stoned Names, Help Needed
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In a message dated 7/30/2002 4:16:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask]
writes:
>
> My brother-in-law, Ricardo of Pam & Ricardo, has requested that I inquire
> -- What is the name of the large stone that forms the threshold / stepping
> stone of a doorway? I have no clue.
>
> ][<en
>
>
Saddle?
jh
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<BR>
<BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Verdana" LANG="0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><BR>
My brother-in-law, Ricardo of Pam & Ricardo, has requested that I inquire -- What is the name of the large stone that forms the threshold / stepping stone of a doorway? I have no clue.<BR>
<BR>
][<en</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Verdana" LANG="0"><BR>
<BR>
</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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Saddle?<BR>
jh<BR>
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 20:50:27 -0700
Reply-To: "Darling,
all I want is that you should be a pinhead -- Arlene Croce"
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From: Ruth Barton <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Sand Mining - Hey, Ken, where? (Can't afford 'Bhama.)
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You mean a sandbank? We got 'em. Gravel banks are more interesting
though. Gotta be careful since they can cave in and bury ya. I spent one
VERY long evening picking gravel out of the ass of a drunk guy after a
gravel bank cave in when I worked OR many years ago. Ruth
At 7:51 AM -0400 7/30/02, Ken Follett wrote:
In a message dated 7/29/2002 2:59:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
OK, pickle-face, where is the nearest sand mine? I'm ready.
There is a kool looking one on Long Island out near Exit 49 on the LIE.
Lots of different colored piles of sand. I'll check into if they will let
us in, there is also Scofield in NJ that, though not a mine, may be
interesting as well. There has to be a few up the Hudson as well that may
be worth checking into.
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 21:08:05 -0700
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I call it the doorstone but I was never very inventive with words. Ruth
At 4:15 PM -0400 7/30/02, Ken Follett wrote:
My brother-in-law, Ricardo of Pam & Ricardo, has requested that I inquire
-- What is the name of the large stone that forms the threshold / stepping
stone of a doorway? I have no clue.
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 21:13:37 -0700
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No, no, no Ralph. Y'all and all y'all are southern expressions, up here
it's just "you guys." Ruth
At 6:07 PM -0400 7/30/02, Ralph Walter wrote:
In a message dated 7/30/02 9:52:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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Youz guys are killing me.
Steve,
It's spelled "youse" and pronounced "yiz." It's "y'all" in Yankee.
Ralph
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 23:02:04 EDT
Reply-To: "Darling,
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From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Careful with that Paint Stripper!
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In a message dated 7/30/2002 9:21:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> No, no, no Ralph. Y'all and all y'all are southern expressions, up here
> it's just "you guys." Ruth
>
>
>
>
Ruth,
1. So sue me.
2. Even when it's girls?
Ralph
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 7/30/2002 9:21:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
<BR>
<BR>
<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">No, no, no Ralph. Y'all and all y'all are southern expressions, up here
<BR>it's just "you guys." Ruth
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">
<BR>Ruth,
<BR>
<BR>1. So sue me.
<BR>2. Even when it's girls?
<BR>
<BR>Ralph</FONT></HTML>
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 23:06:00 EDT
Reply-To: "Darling,
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From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Stoned Names, Help Needed
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In a message dated 7/30/2002 9:22:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> I call it the doorstone but I was never very inventive with words. Ruth
>
Ruth,
I dunno. Never heard nobody call it no doorstone before. Sounds pretty
"inventive with words" to me. Some novels are long, and some are short. You
seem to be in the mininovella range.
A. Critic
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<BR>
<BR>
<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I call it the doorstone but I was never very inventive with words. Ruth
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<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">
<BR>Ruth,
<BR>
<BR>I dunno. Never heard nobody call it no doorstone before. Sounds pretty "inventive with words" to me. Some novels are long, and some are short. You seem to be in the mininovella range.
<BR>
<BR>A. Critic
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 23:07:49 EDT
Reply-To: "Darling,
all I want is that you should be a pinhead -- Arlene Croce"
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From: Ralph Walter <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Sand Mining - Hey, Ken, where? (Can't afford 'Bhama.)
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In a message dated 7/30/2002 9:22:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> I spent one VERY long evening picking gravel out of the ass of a drunk guy
> after a
> gravel bank cave in when I worked OR many years ago.
>
Ruth,
You might want to keep that story in the submininovella range.
Ralph
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 7/30/2002 9:22:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
<BR>
<BR>
<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I spent one VERY long evening picking gravel out of the ass of a drunk guy after a
<BR>gravel bank cave in when I worked OR many years ago.
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Ruth,
<BR>
<BR>You might want to keep that story in the submininovella range.
<BR>
<BR>Ralph
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Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 08:35:37 EDT
Reply-To: "Darling,
all I want is that you should be a pinhead -- Arlene Croce"
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From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Stoned Names, Help Needed
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In a message dated 7/30/2002 6:13:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> It's a sill.
>
It's a sill silly. Thank you Ralph. Ken had me thinking and wondering what
that dab burnit thing was called also.
Steve
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</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">It's a sill.<BR>
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It's a sill silly. Thank you Ralph. Ken had me thinking and wondering what that dab burnit thing was called also.<BR>
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Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 08:37:36 EDT
Reply-To: "Darling,
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From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Wow, cutting it kind of fine now, aren't we...
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In a message dated 7/30/2002 6:16:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> Does this mean you don't have anything black, AND you don't have any walls?
> Or is this a trick statement?
>
Ralph,
Either or. One of the other. Maybe.
Steve
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=4 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Goudy Old Style" LANG="0">In a message dated 7/30/2002 6:16:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
<BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Does this mean you don't have anything black, AND you don't have any walls? Or is this a trick statement?<BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=4 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Goudy Old Style" LANG="0"><BR>
Ralph,<BR>
<BR>
Either or. One of the other. Maybe.<BR>
<BR>
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Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 08:40:23 EDT
Reply-To: "Darling,
all I want is that you should be a pinhead -- Arlene Croce"
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From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: working for Enron
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In a message dated 7/30/2002 6:17:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> You bring the money.
>
Last time I spoke with Bryan he had not received your dues. So, you will have
to bring the cards and the money.
Steve
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<BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">You bring the money. <BR>
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</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=4 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Goudy Old Style" LANG="0"><BR>
Last time I spoke with Bryan he had not received your dues. So, you will have to bring the cards and the money.<BR>
<BR>
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Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 08:48:12 EDT
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In a message dated 7/30/2002 9:21:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> No, no, no Ralph. Y'all and all y'all are southern expressions, up here
> it's just "you guys." Ruth
>
Yeah Ralph, get it right! Damn Yankees think they know everything. Oh now I'm
pissed! My AOL spell checker is calling y'all questionable. Mr. Smart Ass AOL
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<BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">No, no, no Ralph. Y'all and all y'all are southern expressions, up here<BR>
it's just "you guys." Ruth<BR>
</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=4 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Goudy Old Style" LANG="0"><BR>
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Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 08:49:50 EDT
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Subject: Re: Sand Mining - Hey, Ken, where? (Can't afford 'Bhama.)
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In a message dated 7/30/2002 9:22:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
> I spent one
> VERY long evening picking gravel out of the ass of a drunk guy after a
> gravel bank cave in when I worked OR many years ago.
Ruth,
Was this by any chance your ex?
Steve
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<BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I spent one<BR>
VERY long evening picking gravel out of the ass of a drunk guy after a<BR>
gravel bank cave in when I worked OR many years ago. </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=4 FAMILY="SERIF" FACE="Goudy Old Style" LANG="0"><BR>
Ruth,<BR>
<BR>
Was this by any chance your ex?<BR>
<BR>
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Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 08:51:11 EDT
Reply-To: "Darling,
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From: Ken Follett <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Stoned Names, Help Needed
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In a message dated 7/30/2002 4:08:59 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [log in to unmask]
writes:
> Saddle?
I prefer saddle to sill.
Thanks,
][<en
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 7/30/2002 4:08:59 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Saddle?</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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I prefer saddle to sill.<BR>
<BR>
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Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 08:53:28 EDT
Reply-To: "Darling,
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Subject: Re: Sand Mining - Hey, Ken, where? (Can't afford 'Bhama.)
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In a message dated 7/30/2002 6:22:12 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
> I spent one VERY long evening picking gravel out of the ass of a drunk guy
> after a gravel bank cave in when I worked OR many years ago.
This beats the black wall.
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Its not THAT wide spread. Its kind of confined to parts of NJ, NY and
PA...maybe immigrants are bringing it into southern New England. West
of the them hills that pass for Mts in the vertically challenged little
states along the eastern seaboard, it gets pronounced with two
syllables...yous-ez. But more common is "you guys". The one I like is
"you guys-ez".
-jc
(I do go off on these sectional-regional-provincial rants now and then,
don't I?...I'll have to work on that and become a better person...more
sensitive...like Ralph...my hero.)
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> In a message dated 7/30/02 9:52:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
>
>
>
>> Youz guys are killing me.
>
> Steve,
>
> It's spelled "youse" and pronounced "yiz." It's "y'all" in Yankee.
>
> Ralph
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Its not THAT wide spread. Its kind of confined to parts of NJ, NY
and PA...maybe immigrants are bringing it into southern New England.
West of the them hills that pass for Mts in the vertically challenged little
states along the eastern seaboard, it gets pronounced with two syllables...yous-ez.
But more common is "you guys". The one I like is "you guys-ez".
<p>-jc
<p>(I do go off on these sectional-regional-provincial rants now and then,
don't I?...I'll have to work on that and become a better person...more
sensitive...like Ralph...my hero.)
<br>
<p>Ralph Walter wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>In a message dated
7/30/02 9:52:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:</font></font>
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<blockquote TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=+1>Youz
guys are killing me.</font></font></font></blockquote>
<p><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>Steve,</font></font></font>
<p><font face="Arial"><font color="#000000"><font size=-1>It's spelled
"youse" and pronounced "yiz." It's "y'all" in Yankee.</font></font></font>
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In a message dated Wed, 31 Jul 2002 7:40:23 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
> Last time I spoke with Bryan he had not received your dues.
> So, you will have to bring the cards and the money.
Bull SHIT!
Bryan was supposed to send his dues to ME, not the other way around. In fact I don't see any indication in the records that YOU'VE paid, either. The whole lot of youse are a buncha goddam deadbeats.
Ralph
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> Either or. One of the other. Maybe.
Hey, smartass, I'm the wise guy around here.
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> I prefer saddle to sill.
Ken,
Reference to the piece of stone would properly call it a sill, as one would call a piece of masonry at the bottom of a window to be a sill. The wooden thingie at the bottom of a door is probably a sill also, but a metal (alum or bronze) strip would be a saddle. We need John Leeke or one of our carpenter cohorts to confirm this. As long as they agree with me, that is.
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> I want a lawyer!
Didn't think youse down south had ever heard of lawyers, much less ever wanted one of your own.
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Ralph pointed out:
>The whole lot of youse are a buncha goddam deadbeats.<
And PROUD of it!
I salute you!
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>>Reference to the piece of stone would properly call it a sill, as one
would call a piece of masonry at the bottom of a window to be a sill. The
wooden thingie at the bottom of a door is probably a sill also, but a metal
(alum or bronze) strip would be a saddle. We need John Leeke or one of our
carpenter cohorts to confirm this. As long as they agree with me, that
is.<<
What ever happened to thresholds?
Rude
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Hello, here is a new topic of discussion.
What options can be considered aside from skinning a brick building if it is
determined during an otherwise logical process of grinding and tuckpointing
, that the mortar beyond the 3/4" deep joint is dead, and actually all the
mortar of the backup masonry is quite finished (soft, powdery, no bond, nice
continuous sandy stream when tapped)? In the areas of distress - displaced
brick at step cracks, cracked bricks, loose bricks, settled arches, the
brick is called for rebuild which will now include multi-wythe
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found, the building will be gone. So, the next question is if the exterior
wythe is not showing distress, the previously pointed mortar is intact, yet
I can assume everything behind it is 'dead', - do I bother with grinding
and pointing if it is visually 'not broken,' should I consider
consolidating the backup with something injectable, or can I just leave it
as is?
Mary B. Brush, R.A., AIA
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>
Rudy,
Gee, thanks! Hey, wait a minute.....
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Mary,
My response to the question posed is, "I don't know."
but...as is my tendency...I have another question. Why is the interior
mortar, "dead"? Is it caused by water? If the water is not coming from
the outer surface of the wall, where is it coming from and has it been
stopped?
-jc
Mary Brush wrote:
> Hello, here is a new topic of discussion. What options can be
> considered aside from skinning a brick building if it is determined
> during an otherwise logical process of grinding and tuckpointing ,
> that the mortar beyond the 3/4" deep joint is dead, and actually all
> the mortar of the backup masonry is quite finished (soft, powdery, no
> bond, nice continuous sandy stream when tapped)? In the areas of
> distress - displaced brick at step cracks, cracked bricks, loose
> bricks, settled arches, the brick is called for rebuild which will now
> include multi-wythe reconstruction. At what point do I stop - If I go
> until sound mortar is found, the building will be gone. So, the next
> question is if the exterior wythe is not showing distress, the
> previously pointed mortar is intact, yet I can assume everything
> behind it is 'dead', - do I bother with grinding and pointing if it
> is visually 'not broken,' should I consider consolidating the backup
> with something injectable, or can I just leave it as is? Mary B.
> Brush, R.A., AIA
> Klein and Hoffman
> Chicago, Illinois 60606
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Mary,
<p>My response to the question posed is, "I don't know."
<p>but...as is my tendency...I have another question. Why is the
interior mortar, "dead"? Is it caused by water? If the water
is not coming from the outer surface of the wall, where is it coming from
and has it been stopped?
<p>-jc
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<blockquote TYPE=CITE> <span class=650122300-01082002><font face="Tahoma"><font color="#800000"><font size=-1>Hello,
here is a new topic of discussion. </font></font></font></span><span class=650122300-01082002><font face="Tahoma"><font color="#800000"><font size=-1>What
options can be considered aside from skinning a brick building if it is
determined during an otherwise logical process of grinding and tuckpointing
, that the mortar beyond the 3/4" deep joint is dead, and actually all
the mortar of the backup masonry is quite finished (soft, powdery, no bond,
nice continuous sandy stream when tapped)? In the areas of distress
- displaced brick at step cracks, cracked bricks, loose bricks, settled
arches, the brick is called for rebuild which will now include multi-wythe
reconstruction. At what point do I stop - If I go until sound mortar
is found, the building will be gone. So, the next question is if
the exterior wythe is not showing distress, the previously pointed mortar
is intact, yet I can assume everything behind it is 'dead', - do
I bother with grinding and pointing if it is visually 'not broken,'
should I consider consolidating the backup with something injectable, or
can I just leave it as is? </font></font></font></span><span class=650122300-01082002></span><font face="Tahoma"><font color="#008000"><font size=-1>Mary
B. Brush, R.A., AIA</font></font></font>
<br><font face="Tahoma"><font color="#008000"><font size=-1>Klein and Hoffman</font></font></font>
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> What ever happened to thresholds?
>
Rudy,
For starters, I don't think anybody makes threshholds out of stone these
days. Maybe in the days when one threshed more frequently they made 'em
outta stone, and specifically for use at the entrance to a threshing floor.
Nowadays, a threshhold would probably be made out of aluminum or bronze
probably, maybe wood. Actually, as I think about it, on a door schedule, the
piece of wood or metal (or a strip of marble at a bathroom or kitchen door)
directly beneath the closed door leaf would be listed as a saddle.
If you went into a lumberyard and asked for a threshhold or a saddle or a
sill, they'd probably ask you whether you wanted wood or aluminum, and would
probably tell you to get hosed if you wanted a bronze one.
But as far as I'm concerned, a big piece of stone at an exterior door
forming a sill is called a sill.
What say ye, merry Twzbil, in your capacity as a Architect?
Ralph
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Rudy,<BR>
<BR>
For starters, I don't think anybody makes threshholds out of stone these days. Maybe in the days when one threshed more frequently they made 'em outta stone, and specifically for use at the entrance to a threshing floor.<BR>
Nowadays, a threshhold would probably be made out of aluminum or bronze probably, maybe wood. Actually, as I think about it, on a door schedule, the piece of wood or metal (or a strip of marble at a bathroom or kitchen door) directly beneath the closed door leaf would be listed as a saddle. <BR>
If you went into a lumberyard and asked for a threshhold or a saddle or a sill, they'd probably ask you whether you wanted wood or aluminum, and would probably tell you to get hosed if you wanted a bronze one.<BR>
But as far as I'm concerned, a big piece of stone at an exterior door forming a sill is called a sill.<BR>
<BR>
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<BR>
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In a message dated Wed, 31 Jul 2002 7:51:11 AM Eastern Standard Time,
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> I prefer saddle to sill.
Ken,
Reference to the piece of stone would properly call it a sill, as one would
call a piece of masonry at the bottom of a window to be a sill. The wooden
thingie at the bottom of a door is probably a sill also, but a metal (alum or
bronze) strip would be a saddle. We need John Leeke or one of our carpenter
cohorts to confirm this. As long as they agree with me, that is.
Ralph
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> I prefer saddle to sill.<BR>
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Ken,<BR>
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Reference to the piece of stone would properly call it a sill, as one would call a piece of masonry at the bottom of a window to be a sill. The wooden thingie at the bottom of a door is probably a sill also, but a metal (alum or bronze) strip would be a saddle. We need John Leeke or one of our carpenter cohorts to confirm this. As long as they agree with me, that is.<BR>
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In a message dated Wed, 31 Jul 2002 7:51:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
> I prefer saddle to sill.
Ken,
Reference to the piece of stone would properly call it a sill, as one would call a piece of masonry at the bottom of a window to be a sill. The wooden thingie at the bottom of a door is probably a sill also, but a metal (alum or bronze) strip would be a saddle. We need John Leeke or one of our carpenter cohorts to confirm this. As long as they agree with me, that is.
Ralph
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Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 07:31:25 -0700
Reply-To: "Darling,
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Yup.
At 11:02 PM -0400 7/30/02, Ralph Walter wrote:
In a message dated 7/30/2002 9:21:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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No, no, no Ralph. Y'all and all y'all are southern expressions, up here
it's just "you guys." Ruth
Ruth,
1. So sue me.
2. Even when it's girls?
Ralph
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Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:49:16 -0400
Reply-To: "Darling,
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Hugh issues here Mary, I suspect not many will respond cause you and your
firm need to consider the liability. First as usual a few questions cause I
am not sure I want to suggest anything less than rebuilding but know that
that is not what you are really looking for I will take a poke at something
less than that to start...
What type of structure is it? (brick with wood framed floors?)
How thick are the walls? (3-wythe?)
How tall? (6-stories or less?)
What kind of forces do you realistically expect on the facade?
Could you expect a dry laid back-up wall with 1-inch of the outer brick
mortared in place be expected to stand up?
What caused the deterioration?
That's enough for now........
Please note my direct phone and fax numbers have changed again
Eric Hammarberg
Associate Director of Preservation
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Telephone: 917.661.8160 (Direct)
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From: Mary Brush [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 8:34 PM
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Subject: dead mortar - what are my options?
Hello, here is a new topic of discussion.
What options can be considered aside from skinning a brick building if it is
determined during an otherwise logical process of grinding and tuckpointing
, that the mortar beyond the 3/4" deep joint is dead, and actually all the
mortar of the backup masonry is quite finished (soft, powdery, no bond, nice
continuous sandy stream when tapped)? In the areas of distress - displaced
brick at step cracks, cracked bricks, loose bricks, settled arches, the
brick is called for rebuild which will now include multi-wythe
reconstruction. At what point do I stop - If I go until sound mortar is
found, the building will be gone. So, the next question is if the exterior
wythe is not showing distress, the previously pointed mortar is intact, yet
I can assume everything behind it is 'dead', - do I bother with grinding
and pointing if it is visually 'not broken,' should I consider
consolidating the backup with something injectable, or can I just leave it
as is?
Mary B. Brush, R.A., AIA
Klein and Hoffman
Chicago, Illinois 60606
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Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:21:28 -0400
Reply-To: "Darling,
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Subject: Re: Stoned Names, Help Needed
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> But as far as I'm concerned, a big piece of stone at an exterior door
forming a sill is called a sill.
Ralph
Yeeeesh!
And I just got done telling a friend BPer's didn't talk about silly stuff.
Now if you can just tell me why my replies have an uncanny ability to toin
blue without my permission!
Rudy
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Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:20:18 EDT
Reply-To: "Darling,
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Mary,
It is my professional opinion that your client is, as we say in the New York
Architectural, Construction, and Histo Presto Community, in deep shit.
You may be able to do some sort of cutting and grout injection on a piecemeal
basis until it's all done; you'd have to talk to a engineer and/or one of the
grout manufacturers to see whether it's even doable.
It would be wise to do sample areas using various methods, to establish
whether each option is doable, what it will cost, and whether the results are
satisfactory. Under no circumstances should you leave your client with a
building consisting of dead mortar without making it clear in writing that
this is the situation, and that you cannot be responsible for the condition
and specifically the structural stability of the building in its current
condition. You need to spell out the repair options and associated costs and
let (i.e., force) him to decide how to proceed.
Let us know how this works out. Sounds like a potentially great horror
story. Good luck.
Ralph, AIA
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>Mary,
<BR>
<BR>It is my professional opinion that your client is, as we say in the New York Architectural, Construction, and Histo Presto Community, in deep shit.
<BR>
<BR>You may be able to do some sort of cutting and grout injection on a piecemeal basis until it's all done; you'd have to talk to a engineer and/or one of the grout manufacturers to see whether it's even doable.
<BR>
<BR>It would be wise to do sample areas using various methods, to establish whether each option is doable, what it will cost, and whether the results are satisfactory. Under no circumstances should you leave your client with a building consisting of dead mortar without making it clear in writing that this is the situation, and that you cannot be responsible for the condition and specifically the structural stability of the building in its current condition. You need to spell out the repair options and associated costs and let (i.e., force) him to decide how to proceed.
<BR>
<BR>Let us know how this works out. Sounds like a potentially great horror story. Good luck.
<BR>
<BR>Ralph, AIA</FONT></HTML>
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Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:24:15 EDT
Reply-To: "Darling,
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In a message dated 7/31/2002 8:14:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> Now if you can just tell me why my replies have an uncanny ability to toin
> blue without my permission!
>
>
Rudy,
As we say in the New York Architectural Construction Histo Presto world,
"Hell if I know." Half the time (the good half, no doubt) my responses to
Pinhead stuff don't get through.
Ralph
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<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Now if you can just tell me why my replies have an uncanny ability to toin blue without my permission!</FONT><FONT COLOR="#0000ff" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">
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<BR>Rudy,
<BR>
<BR>As we say in the New York Architectural Construction Histo Presto world, "Hell if I know." Half the time (the good half, no doubt) my responses to Pinhead stuff don't get through.
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