On the rest of the story of Ham ,I do not know much about it and would like to have some references so  that I can verify before I make any comments.  I find it hard to accept that God would do anything like that to harm his own creation. It must be man made and a very awful mental torture to anyone who is supposedly a descendant of Ham. No wonder Farrakhan speaks with such hate in response to that. justified no of course   but I can now see why he does .

Unbelievable what people do in the name of religion  and how each interprets them

>From: "Yusupha C. Jow" <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: Fw: Re: Excerpt from Islam's Black Slaves:The other Black Diaspora >Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 11:17:56 EST > >In a message dated 3/23/2002 6:30:53 AM US Mountain Standard Time, >[log in to unmask] writes: > > > > Brothers while i exceeded my daily quota yesterday my posting was rejected > > but here it comes once again. > >Faye: >It is certainly very human to err and I should be living testament of this. >I also have very strong feelings against many forms of established religions, >aspects of which have been deliberately set up to rob the working man of his >or her well hard earned money. It is also interesting to not how these >religious institutions always have such a firm hold on the disadvantaged and >lower class. A trip to any south side neighborhood in the USA should >illustrate this. I am also concerned about how many of these religious >interpretations are viewed the same way they were 1000 years ago. This IMO >is not practical. It is also no longer practical for one to marry multiple >wives in certain situations, or to not practice birth control (see position >of catholic church on the use of condoms even for married couples). The story >in the Bible of how we (Africans) were the descendants of Ham whose children >would become the wretched of the Earth, is also quite controversial. These >are just a few instances of serious contentions I have with aspects or >organized religion. That said, one cannot dispute the fact that religion has >also been a very positive influence in the parallel developments of many >societies. > > >On Bilal, I gather he was a devoted servant of the Prophet. Given there was >a multitude of writing about life in Arabia during this period in time, I >would be very interested in hearing or reading about how he was perceived and >treated by others during his life there. I am also interested in learning >how the Moor invaders reconciled their invasion and treatment of Africans >against their religious beliefs. Story has it that the name, Narr, was given >to invaders because they had the cannon and used this to burn down and >terrorize villages so much, that they were called Narr, the Wollof equivalent >of fire. I wonder how true this story is.. > > >- Yus > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface >at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: >[log in to unmask] > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~