I cannot escape safemode, and believe it is because I have a problem with my hard disc controllers. Both the primary ultra, and the secondary ultra ATA controllers show a yellow circle with an ! in them. I tried removing the SIS 5513 Dual pci,ide,controller and restarted, but the problem is still there. I am a novice and so I am limited in my abilities, can anyone help me? larry The NOSPIN Group provides a monthly newsletter with great tips, information and ideas: NOSPIN-L, The NOSPIN Magazine Visit our web site to signup: http://freepctech.com