On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 15:31:32 +0100, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois_Dovat?= <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > F : (...) The generaly accepted >> range in the litterature for the mastering (F : sorry, mastery!)of the >fire is between 500 000 >> and 350 000 years ago . >K : If that is generally accepted by instinctos then the theory crumbles. >> 25,000 generations away from an all-raw dietary does not make instincto >our >> original food, especially since fully modern humans are much more recent >> than that. But OK... >F : Burger ever spoke of about 400000 ans in his seminars, and it is also >writen in his book ( I lend it to a friend, so I'm unable to c heck right >now). I clearly remember that he mentioned 10,000 years in his book. Whatever, even if fully modern humans (120,000 years) are more recent than the widespread use of cooking (100,000-400,000 years?), it does not prove that cooking is OK... and it does not mean it is not either. This is an endless debate. >F > 450 000 years ago appeared the first known human disease, "pyorrhee >> > alveolaire"(in French), followed by malaria, "meningiome", syphilis and >> > then "actinomycose" 35000 years ago. I suppose many diseases do not leave marks in skeletal remains. How can you be sure that humans didn't have flus 2000000 years ago? :-) >F : You are wildly conjuncturing. I did read on BV website that cooked meat >rot while raw meat gets gamy. I suppose that cooked meat is safe (with respect to germs) if eaten just after cooking and that raw meat is safe if preserved in proper conditions (of temperature, humidity...) P.S. I am quite busy working in my apartment these days, so I can't participate to the list very actively. JL