>From: YERO MAMA <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list <[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: THE SUCCESSES ALONGSIDE FAILURES/Sidibeh&Ndey... >Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 14:42:56 +0000 > >Sidibeh, > Brother i quite agree with the undermentioned statement from >your >end! Neither was i taking the defeatist position nor the other >entangling >end. Sidibeh i have been one of those who used to admire your >positions in >the past so i would not be surprised if you easily understand my >point after >this one(laugh). >Actually my standpoint was to define what you just said,the west has >both >good and bad cases to send to us there4 blind-folded acceptance on >our side >may sometimes push us towards trampling upon our fellow countrymen >sooner >than later. >An independent mind is the best tool after all,whether when facing >the west >or the North! >If you dig into the archives of the L you will see where i quoted >Peter >Abraham's book(a south African writer).The former said in one of >his novels >that..." all whites are bad and all blacks are good is false,like >wise all >blacks are bad and all white are good is equally false" The context >as far >as the above quotation fits the then apparthied era,indeed it can be >borrowed for our debate thus to fit the case we are discussing right >now. >Last week during our debate on the expulsion of the EU delegate from >the >Gambia i did reiterate the fact that,no state or gvt for that matter >can >say:" we do not need the EU!" Indeed saying that wouldn't embedd >wisdom. >Hopefully my position is understood as far as dealing with the west >is >concerned. > >Mandela's apology Mr.Sidibeh wasn't for Abacha to clip on a shoulder >as a >medal,No! he did apologise because those who presented the issue >meant to >let him think of Nigerians and not Abacha. >Sanctions,expulsions etc weren't going to reduce Abacha's plate of >salad! >But it was going to harm the Nigerians as individuals.I was not also >defending Abacha per se but recapitulating on a point where Africans >meant >to sacrifice Africans only to be recognised by the west.There are >bad eggs >as far as western leaders are concerned but the rectifications >amongst them >are done with more concern than if it were amongst us brother. >Another factor is that i did mention that this was a camera session, > the >french call it huit-clos during summits.These are sessions similar >to those >of the UN security council's-they aren't usually publicised.So the >"wheres" >and "whens" in trying to bail you out may not be prudent for me but >if u >wouldn't mind i can try and get you in touch with A diplomat from >Swaziland >and a former Ambassador of that KIngdom to the UN he will surely >tell you >the place and time without any delay.This is meant to let you know >that the >information is factual and not "slippery". > > >Ndey: > Thank you for the analysis and i know that you will tell me your >position by tomorrow so till then i will be gathering more >convincing facts >for you sister. >Hope so Accra isn"t that hot?! > >YEROPULLOH. > > > > > > > > > > > >"On the other hand dismissing off-handedly, gestures of solidarity, >be they >rhetorical or otherwise, from Western governments with the struggle >of >African people for democracy, is utterly defeatist and >self-destructive". >> >>But kindly bail me out here. Where and when did Mandela apologise >>for >>taking a principled stance against the murderous dictatorship of >>General >>Sani Abacha? >> >>Thanking you for your time. >> >>Momodou S Sidibeh >>(Stockholm/Kartong) >> >><>//\\<>//\\<>//\\<>//\\<> >> >>To view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface >>at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >>To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: >>[log in to unmask] >> >><>//\\<>//\\<>//\\<>//\\<> > > > > >"YEROMAMA PULORI GALO HAAWA BAROGEL N'DIMOU" >"Speak the speeches and let the speeches not spit you." > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at >http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > ><>//\\<>//\\<>//\\<>//\\<> > >To view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface >at: http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html >To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: >[log in to unmask] > ><>//\\<>//\\<>//\\<>//\\<>