I raise animals............chickens and sheep. I feel they have great lives and it is important to me that they do. Eating them only means that for an instant they suffer the consequences of dying, far less time than most humans suffer as they near death. I agree that meat production, the way it is done by big agroindustry, is horrible and immoral. To have an animal born, only to live locked in boxes by themselves, or jammed in with too many other animals, surrounded by their unavoidable feces and urine and stench only to be finally slaughtered, is detestable. But us consumers should care about all that and search out sources of meat that treat the animals in a compassionate way. It is more inconvenient and expensive, and I don't generally buy that way, but I should. Still, it is unavoidable to come to the conclusion that our species evolved as meat eaters, at least in part. Seems vegetarians go around and around looking for a theory that shows we don't have that past. I haven't seen anything that convinces me. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amadeus Schmidt" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 5:41 AM Subject: Re: Sv: Re: [P-F] Naked with a .. stick and fire? > On Tue, 27 Nov 2001 00:32:47 +0100, Esben Brun <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > > > >May I ask why do you choose to be vegetarian ? (I'm not trying > >to make you eat worms and carrion, I'm just curious :-) > > I'm disgusted by what is called "meat production". Additionally > after many years I feel strong discomfort in the thought of eating an > animal body. > > It would be different if animals were wild, living in the wild, > eating themselves from the wild with all the full minerals and nutrients, > and if hunting would be part of my options to live at a certain place. > In the outback for example. > In this case I would only have left to make my bill with the hunted animal > This I think would be acceptable if I didn't have other options. > > Like with Lucy, homo erectus or Cro Magnon human. > > Amadeus > >